Fate Lore - The Tale of Sitonai & Illya

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[@otakudaikun]

Which Illya do you prefer, the one from Stay Night or the one from Prillya?

[@auraaetherbladesigma6939]

Either or is good for me. After all, what makes Type-Moon special is that each different iteration of the same character can show different aspects of said character.

[@jacek107ify]

My favourite is probably Prisma Illya - she is just too cute

[@connor8610]

Prefer stay night especially the scean from HA where shirou and illya fall asleep together like siblings

[@lily-_-]

I like them both. Prisma Illya is adorable and sweet, while I can empathise with her Stay Night version and really like her personality there.

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

The answer is Yes

[@mercenarygundam1487]

In a nutshell: That one kid who believes Hercules is the strongest and no one can argue with her because Hercules is REAL. Any attempts to debate with her will promptly have her sic Hercules on you like an oversized attack dog.

[@technodry3216]

But mr zasshu has something to say

[@shahdangalahad698]

Even illya has become Heroic Spirit Sitonai she still never forget Hercules.

[@ivanbluecool]

Same with hercules and emiya. They never meet kalied illya or miyu and chloe yet they protect them no matter what. The "kind berserker" scene in the manga is amazing

[@Lemuel928]

Herc’s card is added to Illya’s collection.

[@nonaes]

during the climax of the oniland singularity Herc shows up to help even though he's not in the singularity.

[@jacek107ify]

Its interesting that from all Fate characters Illya alternative differ the most personality wise. Prisma Illya - cute, polite innocent girl with funny tsukkomi side Archer Illya - hyperactive child Sitonai - strict teacher, with huge sense of duty Celeb Bloomers (Fate Capsule Servant) - spoiled, arrogant celebrity when Fate/stay night is a bit like mixture of all above. (mostly Prisma and Sitonai) Muramasa and Shirou are almost identical personality wise same with Rin and Ishtar Luvia and Astrea

[@dramaturgy845]

dark sakura and kama

[@technodry3216]

Wdym shirou and archer shirou are completely different

[@StoogesFan]

@@dramaturgy845 And Sakura with Parvati

[@sdbzfan1]

@@StoogesFan honestly when it comes to Par, I can't tell if that's just Par or Sakura, especially when Luvia and Ishtar are just Luvia and Rin, with Eresh pretty much being Extra CCC Rin, Ishtar has enough about her that makes her different to Rin which ironically makes Space Ishtar way more like Rin than regular Ishtar

[@Flaris]

There's no doubt in my mind that I like the Prilly version of the character. Having more to do than either being victimized or acting as an antagonist is nice. Plus the whole character arc still ongoing for Prillya is one I'm curious to see play out. Sitonai is still great. It is a nice chance for that version of the character from FSN to get to do more. Having both a lost belt and event to give her a bit of focus. Although to be fair she was very off to the side for most of the lost belt so that only did so much for her.

[@darthsacul3940]

When I first met Sitonai in the second Lostbelt I didn't pay much attention to her. But when I played the Oniland event, and realized that her vessel is the same Illya from Fate/Stay Night I wanted to summon her and reunite her with Heracles, sadly that didn't happen but anytime she has a rate up is a chance for a reunion.

[@MuseHijinks]

I think my favorite thing about the Illyas is that they both get along with each other when they interact. None of that drama you got from Archer and Shirou for example lol

[@noahweathers4408]

Have I told you of Chaos Theory? It’s a fanfiction that basically offers the Illya route to Fate with Saber, Unlimited Blade Works with Rin and Heaven’s Feel with Sakura, though there are some parts of Heaven’s Feel included. It’s definitely worth checking out, especially because *unlike SOME FANFICTIONS,* this one’s actually complete.

[@Tfbrave]

Link please?

[@TheBitingBat]

I have made it my personal mission to summon as many illyas as possible as thanks to Heracles for carrying me through the game for so long

[@ivanbluecool]

Oh yes my second favorite character in the nasuverse even back when I just knew fsn. Illya was just amazing from introduction up to the only thing I liked about hf(movies destoryed her character for pointless stuff). Super smart and wise as any big sister should be even when she is scary she can be cute. Kalied I hope people are actually reading the manga. See is basically in emiyas position right now and it's so heart breaking in general. Sitonai was honestly one of the only things I liked in lb 2 aside Napoleon everything else was meh or bad like the Valkyrie. Oni land the payoff to seeing Berserker come in to help sitonai despite being unwanted by sitonai was such a touching scene. Also emiya is a sis con as he treasure her above most things in the stores

[@PJammaGod]

The latest chapter of Kaleid... oof.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@PJammaGod yeah but most already wrote off kalied as a standard Magical girl anime. Makes me sad as people think hf is dark. It's nothing compared to kalied

[@sdbzfan1]

@@ivanbluecool I mean the loli fanservice doesn't really help it's case

[@ivanbluecool]

@@sdbzfan1 that's because people are lazy and only see the anime for everything and not the original source material and judge it on how others see it and yes I checked around that's exactly how people talk about it. They like oath under snow movie but most lose the weight to seeing it without all the build up and small details you find hidden that hiroyama put in. The manga censored ealry Chloe kisses for a joke and has a lot more depth to it with side Characters Making even illya verse Shirou a good Character by talking to Rin an shows why things are different. A lot of the ealry and current chapters have little to no fan service and really go deep in how dark illyas journey is. But yeah fate fans don't care. I only talk to a few kalied fans from fate and many non fate fans who can actually understand the story and that's sad as it basically shows much of Gil's story and mindset and lostbelt information that I figured out before lb 5 happened.

[@sdbzfan1]

@@ivanbluecool i mean look man, people are allowed to ignore something for things in it being creepy or down right uncomfortable to watch, not everyone could get through episode 1 of goblin slayer when that came out and a lot of the actual issue from that episode was obscured, im not saying prisma illya doesnt have depth but it kinda forced itself to a niche audence when it decided to depict children in lewd situations, i mean people already hate unnecesary fanservice in anime, tact on something taboo like children making out and in skimpy outfits and everything to do with chloe and people are look at you sideways when you say you like it "no really guys its got excelent character dynamics and plot reveals" its like the meme of the guys parents walking in on him watching an ecchi scene and he goes its not always like this

[@xero5367]

I'm glad illya got such a happy ending as a servant compared to her actual life

[@tayloredwards4968]

I really love illya's Mom. I think she's a real really good mother. She's trying to make the world a better place for her child. I am really heartbroken that she had a tragic end. 💔

[@ivanbluecool]

If you want it to be more sad. Irisviel also saves shirous life despite never meeting him in fsn making her the best mother as her love is that strong for her family. HA illya figures it out

[@ivanbluecool]

@saber 1616 well yeah nasu said kalied illya is basically if illya was a normal kid as zero illya is basically the same thing But even then illya actually has a brain and can not go crazy and keep her control compared to sakura and basically everyone affected by angra.

[@ivanbluecool]

@saber 1616 you mean great? Yeah illya is wonderful

[@Rebotified]

The mom is fbi, illya is more legal

[@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307]

Then there’s something about magical girls, being Taiga’s apprentice in a dojo and Berserker turning into car but that’s a different story XDDD

[@wolfynightwolf]

UwU Finland and Kalevala mentioned UwU 🇫🇮

[@Chief-Remeldian-Olympus]

At less Illya gets to be with her family in the afterlife. You know I love that final card of the Emily family with them having all white hair and looking happy together.

[@yoshikiharo1020]

Story of Sitonai and FSN Illyasviel

[@gundambassexe31]

I love illya

[@batmetista]

It's time for the best girl :)

[@soraadcaelum2428]

Just imagine a fifth holy grail war full of pseudo servants

[@thirdplanet4471]

I remember seeing some fan art of Shirou summoning Archer Emiya, Rin summoning Ishtar, Illya summoning Caster Iri and l think Sakura summoned BB

[@soraadcaelum2428]

@@thirdplanet4471 oof sakura

[@seth9655]

Not a bad fanfiction idea

[@Hakelous]

this story is so obscure i had to dig through reddit to did it. freya is also the source of the dark elves in some stories

[@NekoKat.]

I have to admit I really do prefer og Illya since my introduction to fate was the Stay night anime. Don't get me wrong I still think she is grade A psycho but in the end og Illya is best Illya

[@thirdplanet4471]

After enduring everything she went through anyone would have some screw looses

[@kouyang9393]

Yeah she still put our Boi Shirou into a Stuff Teddy 🧸

[@gudakoalter]

It's very bitter sweet when I finally got collected Sitonai, Illya and Kuro, Kiritsugu, and Iri in my chaldea now I need Muramasa to complete the Irisvile family

[@chrisharte4280]

I see that art of Sitonai and Archer! Perhaps there is a comic where the two actually meet!

[@SHisiSlipperEdits]

Where

[@merrymerry2906]

I do love the Fate Lore Series

[@seth9655]

Me too. I found this channel because of it.

[@CatMonette]

So happy I got my Sitonai to NP5 this year and Magical Girl Illya to NP4. I love both of them and I'm super excited to roll for Illya's summer version next year!

[@royd209]

ice loli savior of scandanavia

[@danrudralonewolf3392]

Thanks Bro.. I really glad her good ending

[@AverageAwesomeDude]

My first 5 star and my highes NP level 5 star. Carried my ass a lot in the early game

[@yaboigamerdouji7573]

You could be a history teacher using Fate to teach Magecraft, historical figures, and areas of the world

[@thirdplanet4471]

Illya protection squad. Also, Sitonai reminds me of the golden compass

[@manydoorsedboy6579]

The only 5* I have at np2. Her and Kingprotea are my go to against cavalry class enemies.

[@Night-ec7ef]

Polar bear illya is way better then magical girl illya.

[@extremeotakugamer]

At least Illya is happy in Kaleid. It's almost like seeing another character if we compare with Stay Night.

[@kianmcgurk3377]

when is the next lore video, love these👍

[@otakudaikun]

I'm starting it up again today actually. Perhaps it'll go public near the end of the month.

[@kianmcgurk3377]

@@otakudaikun Cheers for the rapid reply mate.

[@AstronScion]

Herc the berserker

[@Bladecharge]

Ritsaka believes in the power of family so he/she reunites one

[@ozy7777]

Illya adorable!!

[@kae1971]

I love the Prisma Illya manga right now. *Spoiler WARNING* Illya about to sacrifice herself to be a hero to save an entire world.

[@ivanbluecool]

Emiya:that's my sister. Demiya:no she is mine. Kerry: pretty sure that's my daughter

[@seth9655]

No matter what universe were talking about, Illya always end up dying

[@jvts8916]

I guess she is an Emiya after all.

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

I'm finna start reading where licht starts so hopefully I'll catch up

[@kevinchong5424]

Funny how most forget to mention Kuro/Chloe, who is basically Illya Alter. She’s also easily one of the best servants to have in your party, her and Jeanne Alter Berserker

[@ShiraFuyu2022]

I wonder how she would fare if she'd actually summoner in a Real Grail War. Her vessel alone should've been the most ideal out of the 4 Masters of Stay Night but I never did get enough detail about the Spirits that resides within her and how strong they are

[@dramaturgy845]

well the holy grail might not have happen if sitonai will be summoned since illya is her vessel she will posess illya and they become one. they may delay the holy grail to find a new homonculus to be fit for the holy grail

[@ron2millionare972]

I got an idea for a new Servant: Dorothy Gale of Oz. Similar to Nursery Rhyme, she'd be a Caster with a Reality Marble than summons Oz and lets her use anything from the story.

[@otakudaikun]

I bet that could get crazy with some of the darker versions of that story.

[@piratevirus227]

Anymore lore vids in the future?

[@otakudaikun]

Of course. It'll be after Tsukihime and the next lostbelt lore.

[@piratevirus227]

@@otakudaikun nice, can’t wait to see LB 5 servants. ☺️❤️

[@sleepyprinny]

So, is this Ilya the Ilya from Archer's world, or one very similar to it? Or is she from one of the endings in the games? Either way, I love F/SN Ilya. Also, the fact that she's older than Shirou but still acted like his younger sister was kinda funny.

[@otakudaikun]

It's definitely a timeline very similar to the one in Fate Stay Night, if not the same one.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

So is this servant illya would get if summoning without catalyst? It would actually made interesting topic for fanfiction.

[@otakudaikun]

What would a catalyst have to do with it?

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@otakudaikun I assume that catalyst override what servant is summoned. We also saw in Prisma illya with Archer card that summoner themselves may provide connection to heroic spirit (cards require Catalyst to make connection)

[@otakudaikun]

@@wojciechwerner8787 What I mean is, why would this Illya be the one you get without a catalyst? What would you get WITH a catalyst?

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@otakudaikun "What would you get WITH a catalyst?" Depend on catalyst. "What I mean is, why would this Illya be the one you get without a catalyst?" Not I, Illya from FSN. Also it was not statement but speculation.

[@otakudaikun]

@@wojciechwerner8787 Oh, Illya summoning herself. That's tricky, but I don't think it's impossible.

[@Chief-Remeldian-Olympus]

Speaking of the Emiya family shouldn't Emiya Archer stats be a bit litter higher because is summoned in his hometown and time period? I wonder is there timeline where Shirou and Illya are full blood siblings? Illya and Shirou have the best sibling growth. How would family crest work if Shirou and Illya were full blood siblings? Cause some family are based on the first born son or daughter only like The Matous are only male bloodline and The Edelfelt are only female. So many timelines so many possibility.

[@CT-sf8wd]

I apologize in advance for my straight man-ass If the serpent could eat bears and deer, then why bother with little human girls? They just got way less meat on them. Also if the serpent was killed so relatively easily, how come the villagers were so scared of it? 10:00 Did you say Engels Lied? Assuming that is german, the translation of angel`s poem is wrong, it`s actually angel`s song, poem would be Gedicht. In that Lostbelt why did they fight Surtur? He is supposed to burn down everything, right? And isn`t Ragnarok a prophecy? Something that hasn`t yet happened? So did Fujimaru and co. travel into the future to make sure the world is destroyed?

[@otakudaikun]

Engel Rid I think is what it said. I can't vouch for whether type moon is any good with German. For the Surtr stuff it's long winded so I recommend my lore of that entire lostbelt for context.

[@captainvalourous6668]

This is why I cannot join the bandwaggon hate on Gudao for being a generic self insert protagonist. He had succesfully reunited the Emiya Family in Chaldea.

[@kevinchong5424]

Who has a more tragic live: Sakura or Illya? Small happiness they do both have is a servant who does care for them and actively protect them

[@michaelmutranowski123]

Illya getting her heart ripped out by Gilgamesh is the only part of Studio Deen's Unlimited Bladeworks that is better than UFOtable's Unlimited Bladeworks. My favorite scene involving Illya is the one in which Kiritsugu blows her head off.

[@otakudaikun]

Ouch

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Harsh....