Fatmagic: Guilty or Innocent? [TF2 Hacker Police]

[@Vorobey69]

*UPD: The "Nitro cheat" chat message is now CONFIRMED to be fake.* The person faking the message confessed themselves that it had been faked intentionally. Venusian knew it was fake from the beginning, yet he decided to use false evidence in his video: media.discordapp.net/attachments/988018375659769898/1019559475658625044/12312313223.PNG As for other clips, the cheaters that worked with Venusian *have agreed on being wrong about their claims.* Almost all the clips were gathered by a person named JadedRoses, who has accepted the fact that their evidence has been debunked by this video. DISCORD: discord.gg/EMZhDXV TWITCH: twitch.tv/vorobey69

[@mikaaa151]

Damn

[@uroi.]

Fortnite

[@thegreatprimoyt3519]

Bro, Vorobey, youre the GOAT

[@6en2blenden47]

Ngl you teached me mors in this vidoe then my I.C.T teacher

[@Multi1]

The problem isn't Fatmagic, it's how Sniper is designed. You want elaboration?

[@impracticalnuke]

Cheaters: "Fatmagic hacks, we have proofs!" Valve's Hitreg: "The fuck you don't."

[@wildweasel175]

This comment said the truth

[@impracticalnuke]

@@wildweasel175 I swear to God, Valve's hitreg is one of the best way to have yourself be called a cheater.

[@starmaker75]

I swear vavle hitreg really wanted you be falsely accused of stuff

[@theshermantanker7043]

@@impracticalnuke I mean I really don't like fatmagic, but my god the amount of times I felt bad for the enemy I was aiming at when my sydney sleeper darts slammed into a wall right next to him and still jarate'd him is just absurd lmao

[@impracticalnuke]

@@theshermantanker7043 Valve hitreg is one magical hitreg.

[@UncleDane]

For the longest time, I'd always thought that Valve should port the Overwatch system that they use in CS:GO (a volunteer program where regular players can watch demos of reported matches and vote on whether they think the person is cheating or not - with enough convictions awarding them with a matchmaking ban) over to TF2 for our community to use to mitigate the uselessness of VAC. But after seeing how many people actually believe that Fatmagic is cheating, I've changed my mind. Way too many TF2 players have no idea how this game actually works for an Overwatch system to be effective. Anyone who has played for more than a few hundred hours should be able to recognize that hit registration in TF2 is garbage, and slightly offset crosshair placement should honestly never be used as concrete evidence for cheating. But apparently not. Appreciate the amount of work that went into this video. Also, it's worth noting that just because a cheater confirms an accusation when it's not based on cheating software functionality, it doesn't mean much. The majority of cheaters simply don't play TF2 the way it's intended to be played. I was once accused by a long-time cheater of using Silent Aim because they saw a clip where I did damage when my crosshair was not on a player. What they failed to see was that my sentry gun was doing the damage. Cheaters cheat because they are bad at the game. So they are not exactly the best source of information when it comes to the functionality of TF2. Not to mention, most of them never pass up an opportunity for a few scraps of attention on KZbin. Something to keep in mind.

[@aspect2224]

Lol this video is catching some attention

[@forest-195]

And then he said "Engineer gaming"

[@4mid1]

cheaters accusing other people of cheating and still being wrong

[@forest-195]

Jokes aside, you're absolutely correct. Any sort of player-based anticheat would have the same result as what Fatmagic experiences on a day to day basis. False accusations, and therefore false kicks/bans.

[@hendrix3597]

Correct

[@callingcthulhu407]

Fatmagic isn't a cheater. He's much worse: A player who's perfected playing sniper to the point it makes playing on any map with open spaces a pure nightmare to play on.

[@ToastyTastyPancakes]

I'm not sure about it being worse, but it is pretty bad.

[@peterni2234]

@@ToastyTastyPancakes who wants some numbing agent? -Dr. Large

[@kaiji4788]

I usually try to go scorch shot to "counter" a good sniper. But then again the darwin shield exist, good time

[@MachiNoShaku]

adding sniper to tf2 and its consequences have been a disaster for playing any game normally

[@tojs4095]

thats why i sometimes hate upward

[@bobth6095]

I ran into VenusianRapper in casual yesterday. Was playing spy and got a couple nice trickstabs. He would use the bind "bad paste" whenever he killed me. I was really confused bc I still don't get what that means, and because I hadn't even killed him that game, much less pulled any trickstabs on him; I even failed easy stabs on him several times. The moment I got autobalanced to his team, he said in VC "go get 'em with your autobackstab". I didn't know it was him until I read his profile. Seems like he just likes to randomly accuse people.

[@Vorobey69]

LOL ironic if true since he is a closet himself. btw “paste” means that “your cheat” was pasted. That it’s garbage

[@bobth6095]

​@@Vorobey69 Oh lmao, see I didn't even think of that because I didn't know you could just paste cheats... Thanks for the cool video, I learned a lot about hitscan weapon hit detection.

[@Ghost1170]

His videos are literally juat attacking people and hoping he FINDS a cheater through all the fake accusations. Hes a shit human being

[@Dot11]

@@bobth6095 ye its an expression meaning whoever coded it just ripped the code from a larger more complete cheat, resulting in a cheap worse copy

[@caughtintheweb0]

paste is an extremely common term in cheating and hvh community. it boils down to the meaning that the cheat you are using was using code that the dev just copied and pasted into their own. obviously, that is both stealing and results in reduced quality of the cheat since it wasn't made by themselves and might be from a less quality cheat. and if he's saying you're using a bad paste, why is he getting mad over it lol

[@DEWILL]

Shameless attention seekers don’t understand that there always will be a person can debunk their hoaxes. Awesome job, Voro.

[@yardantosemito5024]

Oh it's you sick!

[@oleadolfse8076]

Meep

[@GDestruction]

DEWILL!

[@DellConagher1]

I bet he's gonna make a video on you next

[@ziha0499]

Yea but you’ll never get rid of those kind of people.

[@doommedd]

I have also successfully debunked that you don't have a real moustache, confess Vorobey.

[@Vorobey69]

Lies.

[@TJ-hg6op]

@@Vorobey69 Creating my anti-vorobey video rn, get ready to lose 101 subs. (I’m quite popular)

[@ihap5180]

Holy shit. This must mean Vorobey cheats irl!

[@mdbgamer556]

Idk man, as a mustache haver myself, I'm thinkin he's legit.

[@Not_interestEd-]

@@ihap5180 ayo send link.

[@Fatmagic]

So now that this video is out, I would love to give an actual response to any potential questions anyone may have about any of the clips. I will start with some questions I get asked the most - Why did you not respond to the initial evidence? Because the evidence is laughable, shows no knowledge of the game or basic fps mechanics, and was created by a joke of a personality human being, so I did not want to feed into dumb drama or converse with an idiot You however, I would love to discuss literally anything you think is suspicious by me and actually have a real conversation about it! Whether it be here or over a call, or even in a vid idk Your video is well researched, knowledgeable and I appreciate you covering this. (Though I think it''s funny that you said you were researching me before the allegations haha) - Why was your aim better before? The reason I am rustier now is because I don't play as much as I used to. When I was in highschool and working at Domino's, I could easily log 80+ hours /2weeks. Now that this is my job, my time is split between Editing, Recording, playing other classes, Life stuff etc. In fact, there was a time where I only logged 15 hrs in 2 weeks for several months straight. (Though I am adding an aiming regimen to my schedule to make sure that not only do I get back to how I was, but get even better. I talk about it in some of my vids. I would like to go professional one day) Stay tuned for some sick games coming up on the channel! Also all the triggerbot evidence I see is either me wanting to line up a shot for an assured kill, charging up dmg for a shot, or just being indecisive

[@Nikolochannel]

Omg! Its Gordo magico!

[@Stonesword_]

Honestly, a lot of players could be cheaters based on venussian's logic. He grabs one "suspicious" clip from an hours long play session and try to use it as evidence. Context is really important, if you have one suspicious shot and 100 normal looking, you can very confidently call it luck or coincidence. If you think about it, everyone could be using trigger bot if his logic applied to everyone. I only have around 400 hours in the game, and there are plenty of times where I have no clue how I hit a very unlikely shot. Anyways, good luck, and I hope venussian's stuff didn't dirty up your name too much. Cya

[@Virgil746]

hello

[@ALongAndLowTide]

Yeah it's almost like you played the game for an extended period of time might have a little bit of game seance and just understand fundamental things about the classes

[@Its2Manny]

I think it's hilarious that the only triggerbot "evidence" is not making some shots. Wish Vorobey wasn't all "he could be or he couldn't be" when there's no evidence for the claim at all.

[@Chudpope]

That clip where VR accuses Fatmagic of wallhacks is especially stupid since that's a common goddamn sniper position. Fatmagic didn't even need to see him a few seconds earlier, there's spots where you always half expect a sniper to be and can preaim accordingly. Hell it's not even just a common sniper spot, it's a common spot for people to be in general when the cart is in that area.

[@Vorobey69]

This clip is by far the dumbest accusation attempt ever

[@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2]

Way I see it is more that he no doubt moved his mouse really quick around the corner and that Pyro was backing up into it at that moment. Because in that same frame the little dot then overblew the Pyro. An aimbot no doubt would've in a single second took both of them without even a reload animation. I see people do that to me a lot because I am not aware of my surroundings.

[@Profile__1]

Every sniper cheats on 2Fort when they pre-aim next to those fences on the 2nd floor.

[@somerandomdragon4655]

he might be trying to appear as legit by playing normally

[@GrayD_Fox]

@@somerandomdragon4655 you’re still trying?

[@Majima_Nowhere]

People also like to forget that the average 15 minute gameplay video is made from multiple hours of footage with the fun parts cherry picked. And fatmagic doesn't even cherry pick _that_ much either, half of his videos are him _missing_ these crazy flicks.

[@arttheart130]

I find myself replacing not only boots, but the dash item as well. It lets me get another accessory for survival (paladin's shield) or damage (destroyer emblem). Edit: wait what, i swear i posted this reply on a terraria video.

[@potato927]

​@@arttheart130 bruh moment

[@arttheart130]

@@potato927 It truly is one

[@ghasterra8950]

@@arttheart130 i swear youtube has been mixing up vid data way more in the past month than ever before

[@BeanyBoi06]

@@arttheart130man the second I got the Cthulhu’s shield I couldn’t stop playing with a dash unless using fishron mount

[@arsonexc]

Even if Fartmagic does end up cheating, Venushawn's case was so flawed that it might end up aiding Fatmagic if ever because of how sloppy, unreliable, and far fetched the "evidence" is.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

im glad venusians back now i can watch him and bigb start drama with eachother

[@DellConagher1]

'Fartmagic'💀

[@CornedFrogs]

Fart magic

[@AverageTF2Enjoyer]

Fards

[@D-S-G.]

Gaseous archmage gaming

[@salsamancer]

It's obvious that he isn't a cheater because he's always happy in his videos. Cheaters are sad angry people, they wouldn't shine the genuine joy that Fatmagic does

[@OatsMealz]

I mean I dont think this guy cheats but this reason is legitimately retarded

[@mdbgamer556]

Trueeee

[@somefries3101]

Cheaters are mostly toxic racist people

[@marshall1093]

I'd say it depends on the cheater. I've met a few who are cool, including Xarq0n, who is one of the coolest cheaters I've seen in any game, prioritizing fun over everything else. However, many cheaters are as negative as you describe.

[@SaltyCrabOfficial]

I remember cheating in mc pocket edition like on 2016... I only ended up flying and letting the most noob players alive to fight for their lives, while they saw me flying... if they entertained me i let the winner actually win

[@-Grovesy-]

12:39 God forbid you pre-aim in a _very well known_ choke point on the map. People like this are just ridiculous.

[@PinkMawile]

Only robots can think more than 5 seconds ahead.

[@da_bloodytanktf5348]

this whole drama is like the biggest compliment to a gamer i envy fatmagic

[@AdderallXR831]

He even said that himself in one of his videos. I think it was when he was impersonating bots

[@eroulolel]

Funny because he actually made videos pretending to be a bot. Where he looks up everytime he hits an headshot. in spectate pov its looks sus for them, and he did end up getting kicked a lot

[@jaletemur6680]

dont envy my friend or you will be envied or thats how they say it

[@Maxi-Gonz.]

Imagine being so damn good at the game that even people think you're using cheats...

[@da_bloodytanktf5348]

don't get me wrong I got kicked couple of times but being in this big accusation that splits people to two due to how good you are is a sick compliment can't lie.

[@THETA_ZERO]

One of the things that annoyed me the most with this guy's original video accusing Fat Magic of cheating is the ending to it when he cited the fable of Icarus. Out of everything, it was the most annoying because it perfectly summarized the rest of his video: excessive fart huffing while thinking he knows more than he actual does. If he wanted to do real research, he should've started by looking up "confirmation bias" and "Dunning-Kruger."

[@TheOneBlug]

He had such an air of self righteousness and superiority in the entire video, talking down to people like he knows everything and was the objectively moral party. While he’s just spouting speculation that he claims to be fact because it helps him take a jab at someone he doesn’t like lmao. The video gave me a few good laughs from his behavior lol

[@VagueCastle649]

What superiority complex does to a mfer

[@Ihatethemulti]

I hate both voro and vanusuan

[@audraambrozy9443]

Icarus, really? What a pretentious twat.

[@zeebeeplayz]

For those wondering what the dubbing Kruger affect is, basically imagine height is how smart you FEEL and length how smart you ARE and this is the graph |\-__-/

[@poisonousiodine1769]

Like you said at 10:37, that clip from the Vorobey guy was pretty suspicious. You should do a hacker police episode on him

[@outlastcopexd130]

i hate vorobey i hope vorobske EXPOSES HIM for all the wrong things he has done!

[@crack4184]

@@outlastcopexd130 no u

[@unclekanethetiberiummain1994]

We have investigated ourselves and we found that we did nothing wrong

[@Chimpin_]

@@unclekanethetiberiummain1994 he did do something wrong! he has a fake mustache

[@Pumpkincolonthree]

I love how in terms of Vorobey's lore, he treats it like Officer Vorobski and Vorobey are two separate people, which makes it all the more entertaining to watch

[@БруноБуччелати-н6б]

Vorobey lore video when?

[@D-S-G.]

Vorobey cinematic universe has begun

[@janreiafrica]

But he did a goof up and called it "in my video" once in the video lol

[@Pumpkincolonthree]

@@janreiafrica He accidentally revealed his secret identity

[@SunnyWave69]

@@janreiafrica Come on bro, don't nitpick on such things haha, we can let it slide since the amount of work he did is astonishing

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

Its crazy to remember that venusianrapper destroyed himself just because lf terrible evidence for fatmagic

[@jameshibberd5134]

Yknow the scene in BB where Walt and Jesse are threatening Saul in masks and he starts shouting about unrelated shit? "It was Ignacio! It was Ignacio!" And Walt and Jesse are left confused as to what shit he had gotten himself in? Thats basically the dumb shit Venusian pulled when he commented about His ex messaging Voro.

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

@@jameshibberd5134 I haven't watched breaking bad

[@Tuii]

I keep laughing at the fact that pre-aiming places where you KNOW snipers are going to be means that it HAS to be walls, especially that FatMagic was in a sniper fight at that moment Bravo venusian you really showed us back then bravo

[@TheBenoonjamingo]

Another great video Markiplier!

[@karimhhhyat]

voroplier

[@chrisbagley7034]

Multiplayer.

[@galilean2023]

@@chrisbagley7034 market flier

[@MrMan002]

Demopliers

[@oaaaahahahahhaha]

multiplier

[@Pawłos7]

"The Fatmagic cheats" video started the biggest butterfly effect in the whole TF2 community

[@gamingmoyai3950]

People are still trying to defend Venusian, when he HIMESELF fled the community after being demolished by facts and logic? I mean damn, didn’t think this many people had -100 IQ.

[@CapnCoconuts]

Ted Bundy had his own lady pen pals. Never underestimate a psychopath's ability to manipulate the weak of mind.

[@jimmybuba2683]

Venusian and his fans will surely go: "we were just pretending lmao baited we did it"

[@starguardianneo7813]

Good Lord I saw every nook and cranny of some vids of venusianrapper I swear to god I have never felt more genuine hate so much for this guy

[@zweboi1094]

Honestly what do you mean by fans? Man has jackshit of subscribers lmfao

[@Ihatethemulti]

I hate vorobey for his discord friends trying to harm a minor, one of my friends

[@Ihatethemulti]

None of them are good people

[@Ihatethemulti]

Shut up.

[@TheChocolateSailor19]

As someone with over 5000 hours in TF2 and multiple years of competitive play in 6v6 and 9v9, my leaning in this debate is that Fatmagic doesn't cheat. As a captain of a team it's my job to not only spectate my own team but also watch match reviews and gameplay of the opposing teams. I've seen, what I thought at the time was, some sketchy sniping, but as I continued to gain experience in the game and also learning more about FPS, sever delay, lag compensation, and frame rates, a lot of "sketchy" behavior can come down to the desynch between those issues, and also issues with the server as well as how things are seen in spectate. While I think it's good to keep an open mind, I'd still cast my vote in support of Fatmagic not using any sort of hack, but I'm also open to the possibility of it seeing as the lines of a really good sniper and someone using a hack can be blurred fairly easily.

[@nexusthenormie5578]

I'm always a person whom is VERY hesitant to call hacks, and I tend to not call cheats unless there is genuinely something sketchy going on

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

@@nexusthenormie5578 are you kidding me? Up until a few months ago 2/3 of the playerbase was hacking bots. How could you not see hacks around every fucking corner when it is so easy to do? Especially for dirty fucking sniper mains.

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

@@nexusthenormie5578 its a fifteen year old game with a source code leak and a well established cheating scene. Theres cheats everywhere you look.

[@Confy__]

@@John_Smith_Dumfugg I think he meant calling hacks on actual people that aren’t bots and aren’t blatantly hacking and not trying to hide it. He also probably means just in general, not just TF2 lol.

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

@@Confy__ anyone who's even a little suspect i vote to kick. And the nice thing about being infested with bots for so long is people usually F1 without hesitation. Worst case scenario, some 10,000 hour sniper main named Gregor has to find a different server. Boohoo.

[@Monkey_XDD]

In conclusion, he mains sniper. I like this video.

[@diamondmrcreeper4128]

Mönkey! Didnt expect to see you here, its pretty accurate tho

[@Vaughn0292]

Te amo monkey

[@luninhatsuki]

@@Vaughn0292 que isso meu filho calma

[@pepsi1108]

In conclusion, you main demo. I like this guy.

[@itsjustaclint8404]

venusian did expose someone tho. not fatmagic. venusian exposed an entire underground of clowns that search up dirt on legit good players to make them look like cheaters meanwhile secretly washing their hands off from their actual cheating garbage. 10/10 fun video!

[@Vorobey69]

Even if Fatmagic cheats, Venusian is probably too jealous since he can’t even hide his cheats in his videos as well as Fatmagic does. Because the evidence i gathered on Venusian will be too embarrassing

[@itsjustaclint8404]

@@Vorobey69 i dont care about the cheating fiasco i am more infuriated about these people saying they're the good guys but act like literal jerks. kinda like the newer hero tropes in hollywood movies now like hell

[@Bright-iluminado]

@@itsjustaclint8404 The Boys in a nutshell basically

[@h2o_0lol]

@@itsjustaclint8404 They are trying so hard to shove their evidence down everyone's throats and basically harassing anyone who disagrees This is literally a "How NOT to make an exposed video" moment

[@marshall1093]

@@Vorobey69 I can't even be surprised that there's more to this after everyone dug up his past and found out who he actually is.

[@kingcactus5883]

triggerbot seems like the only valid accusation for fatmagic, but it can also apply to any professional player of any game since you know when you're going to click more than anyone else does

[@brimp4989]

Another point for 12:36. This is literally the most common spot for snipers on 2nd point. Even questioning ESP here is weird unless the red sniper was hiding in the platform on the right next to the track and he pre aimed that without his team even shooting there or seeing it on a kill cam.

[@lyell63]

Yeah. There is a 98% chance a sniper is scoped there just like on last on the spawn shutter. You just have to play the game enough. Hell I main medic and I know most snipers spots on most maps to avoid them sightlines.

[@DaKingKayden]

@@lyell63 to be honest medic is like THE class (aside from snoipah) where knowing popular sightlines is important so you dont fucking die instantly and lose all your uber and let nearby people die bc u can't heal them

[@soranaga7198]

Sniper shoot gun

[@nightstar4330]

I'm a staff member on a TF2 server. I can say with certainty that Venusian doesn't know the first thing about detecting a cheater. In his final hard evidence section where he shows the snap, I would have thought "Wow, that's suspicious and looked liked cheats!" but I wouldn't ban based on one clip like that, no good staff member would unless it is blatant enough, which this clip isn't. What you should look for when spectating a suspected cheater is consistent patterns, if that snap happened over and over, it would be a lot more suspicious, but you can see in the clip that right after the flick shot, he goes to shoot someone else and MISSES THE SHOT. Looking at one clip out of a single play session isn't enough to determine someone a cheater most of the time, and slapping these suspicious clips from several sessions together and saying "Look he's cheating!" is disingenuous and misleading.

[@despe954]

As a staff member and sniper main i get those insane flicks on heads only difference is that he has more experience and controls his aim and muscle memory more. In general Fatmagic is very capable sniper then rest of the sniper mains including me. Its not cheating its simply experience Spotting cheater its not hard. Spotting those patterns and movement isn't hard only thing you need is a common sense and experience to spot it.

[@nightstar4330]

@@despe954 I feel it also depends on the way you are thinking about someone when looking for cheats. If you are confident someone is cheating before you gather the evidence, then whatever evidence you do have will be heavily biased. Being able to break out of that thought process and look at suspected cheaters more objectively is key when trying to spot them. This objectivity is what Venusian clearly lacks.

[@VentA_7]

Yeah I’ve said this multiple times, if FatMagic was a cheater: he is the shittiest cheater ever, he misses quite a lot, I’ll be watching his videos and notice several streaks of just missing shots.

[@cringdipshit3813]

When update

[@lyell63]

@@VentA_7 which is more than fair. If you see the vods of prem/invite snipers they miss quite some shots and they have games when they perform horribly. It happens sometimes

[@davysauseslayer1294]

from what i saw as well it looks like the charge meter refreshes faster then the ammo count making it easy to see the frame or frames around where the shot was taken meaning that if the sniper firing has any noticeable charge meter you can identify by when the charge meter resets to confirm when the shot was taken

[@krocon]

Finally a video that goes into details of how the game works! And also with an "answer" to the drama: Fatmagic could be using triggerbot but there is no concrete evidence of him cheating so under the premise "Innocent until proven guilty " he is innocent. Though with how triggerbot works unfortunately any good sniper can be suspected for using it. Despite the fact that both FM and Vorobey talk very poorly about cheaters there is still a possibility that they are using triggerbot as it is extremely hard to notice especially for an average viewer like myself. Thank you for the investigation. Looking forward to the next video on VenusianRapper!

[@HumanPerson_final]

Something I've noticed about cheaters is that they always eventually slip up or, when they stop cheating, are shown to really suck. Fatmagic can do well on any class and has demonstrated good gamesense and control in a variety of situations. He's just a good player when he wants to be, even if he's intentionally goofing around. I don't know why people obsess over this sort of thing rather than just enjoying his content or ignoring it.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

i have abou 20k hours in a lot of different shooter games and i can tell you voro doesnt cheat, his crosshair movement is completely legit and if he was using triggerbot it would sometimes go off accidentily when someone runs through his crosshair unexpectedly. if someone at that skill level would use triggerbot, they would basically never miss a shot. and his prediction shots with projectile weapons are just as good as his aim with hitscan weapons. not cheating. just a russian guy with amazing gamesense, reaction time and hand eye coordination.

[@datbaldboy]

" Though with how triggerbot works unfortunately any good sniper can be suspected for using it." yeah, this has been haunting me since i saw this video lol

[@krocon]

@@datbaldboy It's been haunting me since 2016 when I learn how it works. At least back then we had ban waves that took care of many closed cheaters

[@friendofp.24]

Triggerbot is apparent in Fatmagic's aiming style. Venusian had a point where Fatmagic didn't use to do "driveby" headshots in his older vids, when now he does. I believe Fatmagic uses triggerbot to just consistently get good footage to upload.

[@apxprdtr_mge]

I was on the fence about the whole thing, I wasn't sure, actually I was even leaning slightly towards fatmagic cheating, but your research and video in general were amazing and objective. Great work man, truly. It makes no difference to me, I don't even watch fatmagic's content, but it sucks to have your name dragged through the mud like that. Officer Vorobsky never misses his mark it seems.

[@Ghost1170]

Bro, if you even watched the venusiasion rapper dude, youd realize how much of an attention seeking loser he is. His videos is literal starting shit with people just playing the game. He occasionally catches cheaters, but him and his friends are fucking cringe as hell

[@tylerlackey1175]

"I don't even watch fatmagic's content" "I was even leaning slightly towards fatmagic cheating" Twitter syndrome lmao

[@jeffsh20]

You don't even watch fatmagic yet you were leaning slightly towards fatmagic cheating. Why?

[@BlankBlonk]

@@jeffsh20 I mean if he doesn't watch fatmagics content he's obviously going to think he's cheating because he has no idea who he is He just knows that he's either really good or a closet cheater (we all know the answer though)

[@apxprdtr_mge]

@@tylerlackey1175 Venusian made like 4 videos on him, + some other people reacted to it and gave their opinions, I don't know what's so hard to understand? I knew that fatmagic exists, and that he plays tf2, but I don't watch his vids. Twitter syndrome lmao. Ironically, I never used twitter in my life so I have no idea what you are even talking about there.

[@djd00mshyer]

Waiting for the; "Hur dur 0-5 im winning" response video from the "totallynotapedo" venusian.

[@IJNAoba9-25-26]

I never actually once accused Fatmagic to be a cheater of any kind, some people are just built differently than others and unfortunately, its not uncommon to have rare talent be called a bluff by people who cant or wont strive that far.

[@Lush_Produce]

Some players are just good at aiming when I see his gameplay he has good tracking one of the parts of sniper but he still misses or screws up plus predictions exists he just seems a good player

[@Chuch1to]

Cod for example. Them 360 mlg headshots and quick snipes are inhuman.

[@-.DIO.-]

"I'm built different-" Nah dawg you just fat

[@obad7633]

The thing is he's just a pub stomper no disrespect to him but any season highlander sniper is better then him and way more consistent. The point is he's not that insane of a sniper.

[@Lush_Produce]

@@obad7633 they do feel a bit cherry picked also yeah I’ve sern better snipers”I forgot their name” but they were a good sniper

[@doos6172]

jesus, is vorobey a lawyer or something? this was incredibly well put together

[@Someone-nn8nd]

no, he's not.

[@profiq9952]

oh i thought you were saying Jesus is Vorobey

[@odeioareia303]

vorobey is the saul goodman of tf2 comunity

[@VergilSpardaDMC]

better call vorobey

[@iggypikminunderly782]

Vorobey is the Phoenix Wright of tf2

[@X-SPONGED]

"The greatest award that you can give a Sniper Main is not of upmost praise and adoration, but of a server vac ban for cheating" -Sun Tzu, The Art of Sniper

[@SqwimpyTF]

"I didn't say any of this shit" - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[@IMightBeError]

@@SqwimpyTF "Yeah, but that clearly says 'The Art of Sniper', not 'The Art of War'." -Sun Tzu, The Art of Sniper

[@nate07playzyt]

This is quite honestly the best way to tell someone their good at TF2

[@catmaksimus]

Not the best, but very appreciative, even if you get minor aggression towards you

[@bruh-uq7bx]

its so obvious that he was just charging his rifle in the "triggerbot" clips. All those clips include a kunai spy with hp particles around him. Means he probably won't die from a quickscope.

[@kowa4ui_korm]

Смотреть твои расследования - одно удовольствие! Благодарю, что подходишь к делу настолько по-мастерски :)

[@agrimmon]

Shounic does videos on mechanics in tf2, practically laying bare the raw data to do so, and they solidly explain away much if not all of the potential jank in these “fatmagic cheats” clips, just indirectly. But the tick rate and spectator thing is new. Vorobey did a phenomenal job actually doing his research here

[@YapbreakOne]

I love how half of the people accusing him of cheating have either cheated themselves, or are working with cheaters, it's so ironic lmaoooo

[@AgentMk07]

Ive only cheated on tf2 once...and that was with a offline lobby full of bots

[@loonybin3751]

I get what you're saying, but it makes sense that they did. Cheaters have experience with the software and can offer valuable insight into what does and does not seem legit. Yes, their credibility may be lowered, but I support the practice.

[@NotFine]

Tbh being a prior cheater means you have experience Or at least you should

[@YapbreakOne]

@@loonybin3751 ok but these guys obviously have no idea what they’re talking about is the main point. Lol

[@flompi384]

@@loonybin3751 ok but anyone can just name themself "Cheater" and pretend to know what they're talking about "hmmm yes the hitbox slaps yo the cracker jack pie and i have used that so he is DEFINITELY hacking"

[@seriamon]

Well put together Lot better than my vid tbh

[@mewhenthe_]

hello seriamon

[@seriamon]

Hello ​@@mewhenthe_

[@insultingthings2507]

Hello @@mewhenthe_

[@rowbot5555]

Hello @@mewhenthe_

[@NicoTheMilkman]

Hello @@mewhenthe_

[@thebrokensword5017]

I’ve been a big fan of fatmagic for a long time, the guy just chills out and has fun but is actually very decent at the game. Just let him make his content, it’s so funny and he’s genuinely good at tf2. Good vid man I’m agreeing with all u saying

[@Dejsun]

Its just voro's opinion dude

[@thebrokensword5017]

I agree with voro I’m pissed at ppl trying to ‘expose’ fatmagic

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

@@thebrokensword5017 Agreed, guy was great at the game long before he committed to youtube and is overall just a chill TF2uber.

[@Javonn4i421]

*He's so large*

[@traphimawari7760]

​@@thebrokensword5017 its free content for people to milk, in fact this issue regarding Fatmagic's hackusation was resolved a long time ago yet every once in a while we get tf2bers to bring it up again and low and behold Vorobey gets in to the fray mentioning what we already know, this is why tf2 content has been getting stale over time, people want to be excited over something rather than face the fact that the game itself will never be fixed and rid of the cheaters and bots no matter how hard we cry, the game isn't dead but its on life support and each day the community is getting closer and closer to pulling the plug and move on, its hard to get excited over the game when the community is just bringing up the past all the time with no prospect of the future of the game, the game will last but its in a steep decline

[@zeefrea]

I think you just destroyed the accusers ego for a few years. This was very in depth and absolutely enjoyed the education from it.

[@Noxar_cz]

Nah ppl like him usually have zero self reflection, might pump his ego even higher lol.

[@wezz-t812]

fatmagic has bad aimbot. thats why

[@Sasha_Prime]

@@wezz-t812 Reported for misinformation.

[@januszpolak254]

Nah he is coping hard and said that "Vorbey only shown that he is right about Fatmagic cheating".

[@thebestonumeritos]

@@Sasha_Prime it's an old inside joke bruh

[@sslendy]

Fatmagic is a piece of cake himself to begin with, that's what is more infuriating, the guy just plays the game and have fun, didn't even tryhard, didn't even insult, in every single video he chokes laughing and that's the realness i feel from him, one person that after years of playing still enjoying the game. Cheaters just enjoy cheating, they doesn't enjoy the game, and it's an error calling them "Hackers", hackers are the ones behind the coding of the software used by the cheaters, this ones are just some boring ass persons who only wants to ruin the game experience to others, and that isn't the vibe get from fatmagic, in fact, if you watch half a video you'll see the exact opposite. Thank you for making this video voro, that moustache looks sexy on you btw.

[@ecluvost]

I was on the side of fatmagic not being a cheater because his gameplay first looks real and in general has a good aim even when not aiming on heads specifically and even good sound/placement knowledge so I was very confident that fatmagic was not cheating. Now that I know about the client vs server hit registration, I'm even more convinced he isn't cheating. However I can never be 100% sure he isn't cheating because it's really hard to compare a cheater using a triggerbot and a player that spent years improving his aim like you said. I guess the only way you can 100% prove he isn't cheating is driving to his mountain house surrounded by foxes and watch him play without him knowing. When he is done recording, you break his window pin him on the ground and scan his computer for any traces of used cheats clients. Now you have to run away because when he is angry, he will melee crit you.

[@gamerdomain6618]

Fortunately, the BLU Eyelander Demoknight that has four times the score as second place and eighteen more points than all of RED combined is gonna help you afterthefact.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@gamerdomain6618 That's only if Fatmagic doesn't get a good panic shot on the eyelandeer demo's head first.

[@gamerdomain6618]

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Actually, since he's been in his home gaming for over an hour, even if he does quickscope one of you, his crit bucket is empty, so he only has a 15% chance of critting instead of a 45%-60% chance. So just kill him while he reloads his rifle.

[@readytoplay7874]

It took an hour and fifteen minutes to accuse Fatmagic of cheating. This video is just twenty-eight minutes, and it does better at *actually explaining shit* than both of Venusian’s videos

[@Zodiac28473]

Fatmagic should take it as a compliment that he's genuinely so good that people don't believe a human being is physically capable of doing what he does.

[@goodstuff1286]

so i'm just say this, even if VenusianRapper is the worst human on the face of the earth i'll still watch him because it's funny to see a grow man scream about a 15 year old game and how he's smarter then children

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

Meanwhile said manchild has the mental capacity of a 2 year old who has an IQ of room temperature.

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

I mean, at least you're honest about it and self-aware about why you watch him lol. Can't hate on that, you're not bitch-made, you're a full man.

[@iILyica]

would you still watch him?

[@goodstuff1286]

@@iILyica nah, i stopped because of vorobey's newest video on him. Really didn't think the guy was the worst

[@evanlovesfood154]

You do you I guess. Me personally I think he is one of the most insufferable, despiseable, pieces of absolute horseshit I've ever seen, he is horrific and genuinely evil

[@Psychedlia98]

Late or not, it’s good that you covered this, I feel like you took a more netural approach (as in other bias) which makes me happy, god bless you vorobey.

[@williambutcher7429]

Fatmagic ran over my dog on his unicycle and yelled out at me admitting he cheats in tf2. It’s so sad we let this behavior go unpunished in our community 😢

[@TotallyNotSnowy.]

Thats too silly story to be true lol

[@yourmothergaming9248]

@@TotallyNotSnowy.it’s true, he cheats in tf2 and runs people over. 😭😔😔😔

[@TotallyNotSnowy.]

@@yourmothergaming9248 wah

[@Chimpin_]

funny, would be funnier with a tricycle instead of a unicycle

[@Venom-Snake1]

I love the over exatarated use of sarcasm in the internet.

[@nub628]

Cant wait for someone to make "is vorobey cheating?"

[@marshall1093]

Pistol

[@catmaksimus]

@@marshall1093 the true aimbot

[@biomechanicalcyber-jesus7573]

Voro can make a pro gamer move: Self-portrait.

[@SunnyWave69]

Dude, I'm sure when Voro gets extremely popular someone will actually make it lmao

[@ugotvectored]

then "Vorobey 100% cheats"

[@FISHahInBoots]

I'm surprised that you got so technical and never mentioned shounic. A lot of things you mentioned regarding lag and hitboxes were explained on his channel.

[@richardgarrison5286]

Honestly

[@SunnyWave69]

This was explained not only by shounic but by some people long time ago on TF2 forums, reddit, etc. It's nothing new, but I guess tickrate, client based particles, server lag are extremely difficult topics for a lot of people so this info is easily forgetable.

[@bonafikam]

Exactly! I was so annoyed that nobody in the whole video even mentioned ghost hitboxes!! Valve's lag compensation is 'very generous', so to speak, and shooting where the player _used_ to be a few milliseconds earlier almost always counts as a hit

[@lemons1559]

@@SunnyWave69 people remember Shounic's explanation because he is an amazing presenter.

[@OfficialMaxBox]

as tobey maguire would say, I was looking through some old videos and yours look very.. similar.. nah jk cool stuff broski, keep it up

[@bumpermanthesecond615]

Hello max box, didn't expect you here!

[@kindsteel5]

Max Box moment

[@monomate]

looks like i was manipulated, thank you for bringing me back from delusion

[@reagansido5823]

14:56 Wait really? Holy shit he actually did! I remember seeing a video that showed a lot of clips of people making sniper shots that were very similar to the ones Fatmagic made (he was showing them to say that those kinds of shots are normal for snipers to make) and I very specifically thought "I bet Venusian is gonna double down and start calling all these other people cheaters as well." and he really is starting to do that! He has actually decided that going to war with the TF2 community and just calling every TF2ber who plays sniper a cheater is a better option then admitting he doesn't understand the game's fundamental mechanics.

[@rreprah9515]

I think the worst part about their video is the cringe ace attorney music like that somehow makes his points seem stronger lol

[@Chimpin_]

is somehow supposed to make his points stronger*

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

So the Fatmagic aim drama is basically still up in the air when it comes to a definitive answer, but in the process we've got some *much* more spicy drama with Venusian coming up.

[@ffd1dc]

"up in the air" 💀

[@FED0RA]

@@ffd1dc i can smell it

[@VentA_7]

@@ffd1dc there is always the possibility he cheats. But the information being provided is so vague and poorly executed, and since many of us operate on (the correct idea of) Innocent until proven guilty: most of us will not think of him as a cheater

[@ffd1dc]

@@VentA_7 i was reffering to the "up in the air" thing as an accidental joke like fatmagic's aim

[@jeremiahsmith4235]

what the fuck?

[@leechesg]

Glad somebody else realized how aggressive and manipulative Ven was being. And it wasnt just to the audience, but the people supposed to be backing him up too

[@AG5_]

Fatmagic when he headshots: CHEATER Fatmagic when he misses: Triggerbot fail, failed silentaim

[@Chimpin_]

fatmagic when he can't play the game bc of all the hackusations: left after getting shit on lol bad js admit your a cheater

[@LukaZibar]

@@Chimpin_what?

[@Chimpin_]

@@LukaZibar it made sense in my head when i typed it, rereading it i also have no clue what i was saying. i think it was supposed to be two seperate replies to different comments or something like the part after the colon was what the hackusater was saying? i have no clue what i was even thinking

[@dougfax]

Hey, I wanna let you know that after not playing the game since 2018, your video of pistol engineer appeared in my feed couple of weeks ago and since that day, not only I subscribed to your channel, I also redownloaded the game, so thank you. Edit : Im godawfull now lol but I managed to tilt a sniper main by using Sydney Sleeper

[@xarq0n]

Venusian's the kinda guy where no matter what you say to debunk his claims, he's just gonna turn it around and say that you proved him right. Clips of you shooting for the shoulders and hitting a hs? "Wow you're cheating! More proof for my case" Clips of you landing what should be a perfect hs and missing entirely? "Wow nice silent miss!"

[@Vorobey69]

That's only the tiniest part of his gaslighting. Anyway, what's your opinion on the whole case? I saw you commenting on venusian's video about Fatmagic

[@xarq0n]

Felt all videos were a waste of my time. No actual evidence + Ven has called me and my legit friends cheaters when even I wasn't cheating so I sorta expected as much. He'd talked about exposing FM and showed me the pyro clip all the way back in 2020, but I thought he'd actually find solid proof of cheats before making an expose vid. My personal opinion on FM? He has immaculate control of his mouse and an extremely steady hand. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out he was cheating; but I personally don't think he cheats.

[@Vorobey69]

You were correct btw. You read that idiot like a book. He said that i actually “exposed” fatmagic of silent aim with his POV of his sniper shot in the end lmao

[@Doxxtrain]

"silent miss" my godd only venus can come up with that shit

[@solaireknightofastora]

I thought "I" needed the sun, but it's clear that venusian needs to touch sunlight more than myself

[@3mer1ld]

Looking back, I realize how you and the people helping you really saved fatmagic. If it weren't for y'all I feel like he would've been in a worse situation or even would've leave youtube and VR would've got away with everything he's done. I really respect you Vorobey and how you debunk VR's half-assed claims and we need more people like you to reveal who's the true bad guy. Goated TF2tuber man

[@FuromeNavi]

vorobey being the judge we need

[@catmaksimus]

He is just used to it, and he knows what his points should be.

[@HappyMainCarl]

I also flick like a madman sometimes and it can look like if I was cheating. Also hitboxes are so freaking weird and lag compensation... You cannot say if someone's cheating just by watching footage, the best way to tell if someone is cheating is playing against him. It's so ez to know that way...

[@theGrassMan0305]

I'd like to take a second and just pat you on the back. This is one of the best cheater-related videos I've seen, god damn. You're incredibly knowledgeable and you present it in a way thats actually still fun to watch, even while being so technical. Bravo, very well crafted video.

[@jimbo1722]

I’m starting to believe that Fatmagic is beyond innocent. He already had a good gaming chair.

[@kanga-ross]

I am really glad you came into this case with your two cents and even better you nicely and clearly explained all the hackusations with clear data and discoveries.

[@snoot6629]

Venushawnn came back after privat-ing his YT channel and now plays the "well, actually you see I'm just trolling! haha! fools!" - biggest coping I've seen after his shenanigans backfired.

[@theghosttm8245]

I forgot the term but it’s similar to schrodinger's cat. Schrodinger something but the term is do something and respond with A or B depending on the response of the people who see it. “Yeah he’s cheating” “Thank you” “This evidence sucks” “I’m just trolling”

[@CaptianKatsura]

@@theghosttm8245 The term is Schrödinger's Douchebag, with the typical format being the person expressing a sincerely held shitty opinion, and then claiming it was just a joke if people get mad at them.

[@theghosttm8245]

@@CaptianKatsura Ah, thank you. That’s what I mean.

[@wuz9plus10]

​@@theghosttm8245 schrodinger's douchebag

[@thegreatprimoyt3519]

Everytime I see your videos I wonder how you can hit all those shots and how you can explain clips like these ones. Youre great at the game Voro, and you are like a TF2 scientist. Plus every time someone accusses you of something or someone starts cheating, you absolutely destroy them beyond the power of Thano's snap... Keep it up...

[@onemoreoiw4397]

I don't know enough words to describe how much I like Vorobey's content

[@graysongdl]

11:30 I was literally about to make a comment about how this LazyPurple clip made so much more sense to me after hearing the explanation about 66 tickrate servers, and then you went and brought it up yourself! I am blown away. XD

[@ColonelDoof]

I was conflicted about the whole thing, because I don’t know much about detecting a cheater and thankfully this video kinda cleared it up for me.

[@LuckyLukeTF2]

I always wonder what people enjoy about playing a video game with hacks... I just cannot imagine.

[@earlraivengohetia7878]

It's fun when u beat a toxic player and make him salty (but not making it too obvious).

[@MovingonForgettingthepast]

@@earlraivengohetia7878 it is more fun if you beat someone legit

[@Pureevilcapitalistgoatman]

Depends single player you become a god of chaos multi-player you either wanna stick it to someone or you like making people angry

[@vex_instincts5183]

I’m honestly glad you posted this video cause there’s this closet cheater I busted that even uploaded KZbin videos to try and cover him, but if you watch them, you watch particle sparks appear in areas that he completely misses, but then completely locks onto their heads and it kills them. It’s hilarious how obvious he is but then tries to hide it and this video of you demonstrating hacks vs legitimacy with Fatmagic completely busted him, so Ty very much man!

[@SolaIvyCeleste]

And so like a medic with full uber walking into a sniper's sightline, the video drops. What a way to start Season 2 of Hacker Police. I'm sure you worked hard on this, so even though this just dropped, great work! Edit: So I finished watching and I'm very much impressed with how you dissected down the clips as well as new information about hacks like tickrates that I have never seen before. Great work? No. Spectacular work? Very much so. High praises to you Vorobski! And thanks as well for the announcement of Vorobey's new series! I'm sure "Freakshows" would be quite the ball drop when it does come out.

[@tides8464]

It's clear now. Muselk absolutely cheats.

[@demomancerzv9036]

What about Hoovy Tube? OMG IS HE CHEATS TOO???!

[@D-S-G.]

No! It can't be! Noooooo!

[@demomancerzv9036]

AAAA WE ARE SCREWED!!!

[@jetblack8086]

Yeah he cheated, he cheated on the TF2 community as a whole for Overwatch and then cheated on Overwatch for Fortnite

[@sarahh08]

Jerma cheats

[@thereal_aidenvsau2004]

Voro is the #1 Russian TF2 youtuber ever to me, absolutely love these videos, can't wait for more of these in the future

[@blankedout1862]

I like how they put fucking ace attorney music on like they’re phoenix wright cornering von karma

[@ShockInazuma]

There’s a difference between exposing and just straight up attacking. People really do need to go out and touch grass, sometimes.

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

Grass is fucking nasty. It’s covered in pollen, fucking ants and it gets everywhere, ESPECIALLY CRABGRASS!!

[@Ghost1170]

Venusian rapper's entire youtube channel is attacking people. Occasionally he catches cheaters, but the guy's a loser

[@RemoveThisTrashLetMeSeeNames]

Ear

[@bathe9373]

Ear

[@trevorhiggins9980]

I'm so glad to see a person more well versed in this topic go over this. Thank you for making this!

[@owlface5023]

As someone who’s been following fatmagic, venusian, and vorobey, this video marks the beginning of the end. All I know is that as long as there are two tf2ubers remaining, someone is gonna want someone dead.

[@AgentMk07]

I think his mate saw me...

[@markosofranic3905]

@@AgentMk07 Yes, yes he did!

[@itscuz2351]

@@markosofranic3905 I'll be honest, my parents, do not care for it.

[@kont6233]

Даже я, овощ с тремя сотнями часов на снайпере делаю периодически такие же действия и выстрелы, за которые fatmagic'а обвинили. Мне иногда кажется, что люди в порыве за хайпом не могут трезво оценить действия противника и понять, что это самые, что ни на есть, легитные действия. С упрёка за ESP я вообще выпал. Играю на 2fort в течение 5-6-ти лет и я могу из любой точки карты нацелиться по памяти так, чтобы смотреть на какую-нибудь позицию, где по-любому может оказаться случайный игрок (просто потому что заучил за столько лет каждый угол карты). Плюсом подозрения на silent aim - игра настолько иногда рандомная и лагучая, что не может прямое попадание в голову зарегать, а иногда может и вовсе зарегать попадание туда, куда его не было (просто воля рандома и удачного случая).

[@catmaksimus]

Venusian хочет сорвать бабок с Ютуба воруя хайп FatMagic'a

[@ihavenoidea598]

Никогда не играл за снипу, и только пару недель назад начал играть почти что только за него. 90% моих удачных выстрелов такие же, как у Жирной Магии.

[@NuclearNuke41]

English comment coming through.

[@PretzelsWithSalt]

Это тф2, детка!

[@НикитаГорбунов-х6ъ]

@@catmaksimus становится смешнее с того , что а)venusian все время делал кликбейтные видео где он ведет себя как полный токсян , а потом выстовлял себя героем б)на него тоже сделали видео аля "читерит ли он",видос вышел куда информативней и правдивей venusian в ответ простт написал "хаха лол смешно". Стоит отметить , что много людей упоминают то venusian часто встречался в других комьюнити....где он тоже всех поносил и устраивовал срачи. Venusian достаточно жалкая персона

[@Qwerty-zj3rk]

When the whole cheating conversation began, I was really worried because I’ve always liked Fatmagic’s videos. However, after seeing who started it all with that one video, I’ve pretty much dropped it all. Take a look at that guy’s other videos, he’s a veteran winger/complainer.

[@fantastikboom1094]

He's also a veteran closet cheater as well.

[@linsin5695]

Venusian Rapper has been quiet since this dropped

[@OmegaRC59]

This was really good. I was aware of everything on the technical side aside from what you pointed out about silent aim from spectator (Shoots before the crosshair moves, not move and then shoot), and I never put any thought into the tickrate affecting how these clips look. But even without all of that, the evidence was shaky enough from a lot of fundamental standpoints for me to doubt the cheating accusations and Venusian just absolutely did not know how to vet his evidence lol Seriously, great job

[@Uhalright]

27:19 "Because oh boy.. Is there more terrible sh#$ that this person has done OH BOY there is more..." Nobody could guess what was this about untill the full story about him came out... Jesus christ, how i didn't see that?

[@dr3b3n69]

Yes Fatmagic Cheats, According to Fatmagic lore, he has aimbot installed in his blood with the aid of eating donairs. the only difference its a hardware cheat instead of lmaobox or nullcore

[@mistyche4119]

lol

[@nathanyeet9133]

Hello @Vorobey! An additional point to the spy on the roof is that hitboxes (from what I know, though I'm not 100%) become extremely janky on surfaces like that. In El Maxo's video with 1000 sniper kills and no headshots, the same hitbox bug happens with 2Fort's middle bridge's roof. It seems like a reused asset, leading me to believe the same is happening there as well.

[@JoaoPauloGQ]

This video aged like fine wine

[@Twilor]

All the accusations depended on tf2 not being made out of spaghetti and duct tape

[@pingaazul8061]

Man, I love this video, the edit, the comedy and the explanation about how cheating works in TF2 makes this video awesome!!!

[@LazyThomas]

Vorobey, you are by far the TF2 god (next to shounic). But seriously you really are. Even me, someone who slightly understands the TF2 source leaks but doesn't know everything about the game, you have taught me a lot. Even the smallest things in this game, went unrecognized by me until now. Thank you for this. Also, I'm a huge Fatmagic fan and I was kinda 50/50, and not even because of this "evidence". Just my own observations and being in a few matches with him. We all get accused of cheating. Sometimes I think I'm cheating when I get stupid flickshots, but in the end, it's broken TF2 code lol Have a great day!

[@lysergidedaydream5970]

Some days i use the amby and im like Wow, am i cheating And then i uh I miss and die

[@lirmo2921]

Ты вернул меня во времена Star_ и Jerma985, ты и есть новый Star_

[@fuuji111]

This guy actually did the math, damn Voro respect to you man.

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

Thanks for taking the time for this Good Officer! Glad we have people willing to stick up for the falsely accused!

[@hevyguy8192]

Thank you for good content! Can't wait to see upcoming "freak show" Good job voro~ Keep going I love your work❤

[@kizufgsfds]

Venusian pointing FM's subscriber base being children meanwhile Venusian still talks and acts as an 11yo boy trying to impress 4chan

[@easyyo6784]

thank you for this video officer Vorowski. it makes me realice that FPS and other games, have a very sensitiv calkulation, which is for the human eye close to not possible to see if we dont have all the tools to handle it. Good job officer!

[@funeemunkyTV]

Bro I have gotten so many headshots I know I didn't deserve it's insane. Tf2 is old and the hit boxes are wacky. There are countless clips where Fatmagic could have made the shot and misses and there are also clips where he's baffled he even made some shots too. Fatmagic is just good at the game and this dude is so mad at that fact, he put together a patchy ass "investigation" to prove his point and came out making his accusations look even worse He definitely got dominated by the boss baby in a match and wanted revenge