HeyGears Ultracraft Reflex RS "INITIAL" Review - PERFECT PRINTING MADE EASY!!!

[@FauxHammer]

Important Update: regarding the online only slicer. HeyGears’s has updated the slicer and there is now an offline mode.

[@michaellisken9550]

I just received an email regarding my pre order, that they provide a printable front and side drainer via blueprint library. It should help with the trapped resin on top of the build plate after printing. Maybe it’s worth a test. Kinda like the idea of increasing convenience with printable parts

[@FauxHammer]

@@michaellisken9550 Hey, that's super cool. I think James from @RisingApe told me about that too. Awesome!

[@CapAdGroup]

I think what matters most is how much you value your time. Time is a precious resource and I value mine more and more as i grow older. Spending a few more euros to guarantee that i have more time to do important things like spending time with my family or learning a useful skill is worth it in my eyes. This seems like a good choice for my first printer. Appreciate the honesty in your review and would like to apologize on behalf of other people downvoting your videos because they don’t like the concept of this machine.

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you, and yes it's totally that. AS someone who has spent countless hours dialling in printers. I'm happy that this one just lets me work.

[@dariansutton5503]

The lesson I learned with my Ender 3 was that I HATE calibration. It reminded me of the guys in High School that spent more time working in their cars than driving them. That’s why I got a Bambu X1c. I just want to print stuff. The first time. I have an Elegoo Mars 3 that sits unused because I can’t figure out what’s wrong with it and I don’t have time to get a degree in additive manufacturing or chemistry just for my hobby. I just want to design things on my pc and have a machine make it real. Period! I have no time or inclination to d1ck around with it. Thank you SO MUCH for this video. $1200 seems like a lot. But Ive wasred $600 just trying to get my $300 printer to make a thing. I want this. I’m glad you made this despite the hate you received.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, and this is exactly where we are, people like you who wnat this now have the choice to buy it and you'll get that exact experience. it;s still messy coz resin, but you will have the accurate "thinG" you wnat to print easily. I'm getting hate for this one too!

[@GUEST-mq3nr]

Absolutely agree. When I started 3D printing, I got the original ender 3, believing I was saving money and could learn the ends and outs of the machine. When I realized I needed something that was plug and print when My Gf stated "you spend more time building and modifying it then printing" I sold it at that point and got the ender S1 Pro and then the Bambu X1 and have never really had a problem since. Made the same mistake when I got into resin printing got a cheaper anycubic and the problems that thing caused me I could rage about all day. I got rid of that and got the GKtwo thanks to this and other channels. In short Faux knows what he is talking about. Hey Gears is costly but honestly, it really does seem Plug and play. Based off my experience the machine seems worth it and I will be following it closely. And yeah, the System is locked into its own stuff, but ask yourself, if you knew your print was going to come out perfect every time you made something, is it even worth using other materials and print failure, wasted resin, clean up and the like? Either way if you don't like the machine, dislike the machine, don't hate the messenger. Honestly, without this channel and others like it would any of us be into this craft at all? Faux, you're doing a great job

[@mcorrade]

@@GUEST-mq3nr agree 100% I just want it to work. I don't want to be a printer tech lolol

[@劉祐銘-o7m]

100% agree!

[@jamespark4577]

I just bought one of these in a bundle with their heated pulsing release module, wash and cure combo and 5kg resin - Black Friday sale. This will be my first resin printer (already have an FDM for some time), I hope I made a good decision. I wanted an almost hassle free printing experience as a newbie and was willing to put the extra dollars towards such an experience. Thanks for putting this up as I spent some time reviewing your videos and finally decided on this. I was considering the GKTwo but then I saw this video and wanted little compromise and just print without much fiddling. Sure proprietary eco-system but as with lots of things I bought in the past, always worth it when things are made (sooo) easy (I hope) so I can focus on the craft and not have to spend lots of time on maintenance. Thank you so much for the quality reviews (this video and others)!

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, how is it going?

[@christiansan3637]

Thank you for this video. I decided to buy one of these machines beccause of this video. Keep up the good wok, your videos are great!

[@FauxHammer]

Glad I could help, let me know how you get on with it

[@LPP_YT]

The printer looks great enough, but proprietary resin is a hard pass for me unfortunately. I have multiple printers and don’t want to use different resins for different machines. Not to mention the potential price gouging…

[@FauxHammer]

@@LPP_YT and that is a totally fair call to make and I expect the majority to agree!. Just be aware you can use your own resins mate. James at Rising Alr showed it and another channel called Greedy3D has done loads of tests

[@LPP_YT]

Just to clarify, I don't think proprietary resins are bad. I think ONLY proprietary resins are bad. Allowing unsupported access to the setting, allowing for buyers to use their resin of choice would give the best of both worlds.

[@ovDarkness]

@@LPP_YT I don't think having only proprietary resins is bad if ​they work much better than anything else. Example: DWS Systems resins are very expensive. 150-300EUR/kg. And Xfab can only use those. BUT the results are better than anything else.

[@JrodsRabbitry]

Between you and greedy, you sold me. Just used your code and the black Friday deal and got the reflex rs with heated vat and some resin. Hope I love it as much as you seem to

[@FauxHammer]

Thansk, pleas elet me know how you get on?

[@calamitycal1]

Talking about build plates, I don't understand why companies aren't copying the GKtwo's build plate design in their newer printers. No resin on the top of my build plate is one of my favorite aspects of the printer and why it's still my top choice. It may seem like a small thing, but once you experience it, you'll never want to go back.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah I hear you. That style is still my fave by far

[@codyski1172]

I have just ordered one because of your reviews. Went back and forth between phrozen, anycubic, elegoo, brief detour to formlabs, and ended up here. I'm super excited to ditch my harlot mage and start making with this! Thank you so much for you unbiased reviews!

[@FauxHammer]

thanks kindly, let me know how you get on with it please? it;s more formlabs than the rest, in the best and worst ways.

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

Looks like I found my FIRST printer. Looking forward to the final version.

[@FauxHammer]

let me know how you get on with it!

[@RobertoFlores-pv5tl]

As someone new into the 3D printing, my head has been spinning with all the information surrounding the printers and the different resins. I don’t mind spending a little extra for the quality and use of the machine. I will have to research the proprietary resin more, but I like how it takes all the complicated guess work out. I will certainly budget for this printer.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah, it's a rather unpopular take, but it's not my place to fight HeyGears on their decisions. The result of it will be on their head. This is the only "Easy" option on the market right now.But if you don't mind a bit of learning, other printers aren't significantly hard. The value here is convenience and taking the guesswork out.

[@Tom-gd4pb]

Proprietary Resin is not a big issue imo. They actually have proper claims for doing that. I mean apple users gladly accepted the lightning cable which was less warranted that this matter

[@FauxHammer]

not just the lightning cable, but the app store too. this is Android vs Apple again and in truth, i don;t care.

[@NapGod]

I am generally a "freedom of choice" over a locked-down ecosystem kind of person. That being said, I also evaluate what I buy and use based on what I need it for. I use windows and linux because I want the flexibility to choose the parts in my rig, repair/replace what I need to myself, and software is both a job and a hobby of mine. I enjoy tinkering with android phones. If those weren't the case and I wanted something that "just works", then I'd buy a macbook and an iphone. I don't want to be forced to pick up a new hobby just to print miniatures and this review makes it sound like this printer is the iPhone I've been wanting the 3d printing industry to make. Hopefully that's some food for thought to resin printing enthusiasts. Great review.

[@FauxHammer]

thanks kindly, i think that is a great anology to be hoinest. the older i get, the less I want to tinker. and that is what sold me on this.

[@hickdead6188]

I dont think it's overpriced, it just simply costs to much to purchase one. A lot of people got into printing to save money because a hobby they loved was to expensive (me included) which should tell you something about the communities fun budget. It's like walking into a village where everyone only eats potatoes and talking about how wonderful the new chocolate bar is. Im not saying dont do it, im just saying dont be surprised when folks give a knee jurck emotional response ❤

[@evanskan6326]

I don't think that this is targeted towards hobbyists. Its more for professional use.

[@hickdead6188]

@@evanskan6326 fair point 😁

[@awildtomappeared5925]

they also sell industrial printers, they cost much more this I would class as prosumer

[@jaym2381]

@@evanskan6326 This is definitely targeting pros and hobbyists, just at a certain bracket. Kinda like Bambu did with the X1Carbon.

[@ronaldbell7429]

I think that's probably a reasonable take on things. If that's what you had in mind, then the cost of the printer definitely matters. To me, I'm mainly wanting to print things I design myself, and so print quality and ease of print is probably highest on my list. The cost of using a service mounts up, and I never feel free to print multiple iterations of an object. Speaking as someone who hasn't made a decision yet either, I'm curious to know what printer you're looking at to buy, then.

[@ashmonkeyflash2942]

Thanks again Ross for another great review. This is exactly what I want, a drag and drop resin printer system. I currently print FDM after my friends started printing, I got the bambu lab x1 carbon based on your videos. That was a great decision, as the quality of my prints are so good compared to my friends that they have stopped FDM printing them selves and I print there stuff for them. The people commenting on all of the locked aspects of these systems don’t see the point of these aspects saves time, as you know the quality and standards you’re going to get before you start the print. I know some people like the journey of the print set up, but for me I got into printing because I liked producing stuff, and now I want to print minis. So for me a locked system that guarantees quality, and allows me to enjoy the prints more and not have to waste time and material trying to get something to work is the perfect solution. As from my view point I’m buying the time to enjoy my prints, which I guarantee over 1-2 years for printing time with this machine will save me money from not wasting material on failed prints, the headaches of calibration, and disappointment of random failures.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep that;s it. It saves time that it;s the difference between. "Ohhhh, I want to print that, but first i need to X" and "oooh, I want to print that, Print"

[@ashmonkeyflash2942]

@@FauxHammer as I had someone say to me the other day, you don’t buy a 2d printer and spend time worrying about the dpi, you buy what gives you the results you want. For me this is how the majority of people look at 3d printers, as they don’t want the fails and the constant tinkering, they want the one button press to print system.

[@FauxHammer]

@@ashmonkeyflash2942 Thank you! yes! thankyou so much!

[@JerryBWagoner]

Ok...I will comment. The build quality looks amazing, and i have no doubt that this could be the best built printer in the consumer market. For me however, I'm hooked on the science of how these machines work as much as the end result. I love a great print, but i also enjoy playing with exposure times, AA settings, and figuring out how supports need to vary with different resins. I want a quality machine, and after this video, as impressed as I am, im still feeling good about my GK3 pre-order. 😊

[@AGMiniatures]

great honest review. there are so many printers on the market now that if you don't like it, don't get it. get another. all printers have pros and cons and its all down to personal preference and what your going to be using it for. Thanks to your honest reviews looking at the pros and cons of all the latest printers people can make their own minds up on what suits them within the prince bracket they can afford. i know i did and don't regret the purchase i made at all, gutted its 'out of date' 6 months later but the printer market is coming on leaps and bounds this year and for my use, my printer is still producing what i want when i want it with a quality im more than happy with. keep doing you mate and don't let the non-constructive negative reviews get you down.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate! Yes this is exactly it!

[@NostokAgain]

I'm saving for such a beast and waiting for my Mars 3 to end itself. The quality difference I got going from a Anycubic FDM to a Bambu Labs P1S was amazing. If this printer does as you say in the resin world, it would definitely be the path I take.

[@thepenismightier]

It may be a long wait, my Mars Pro is still going fine 7 years on.

[@AntiVaganza]

I don't see how Reflex will offer a big jump in print quality, though. Quality in resin printing as far as I see it comes down to very few parameters: The resolution, which at some point is high enough and the HG is just about there but not the highest. And then the structure of the Z assembly needs to be stiff enough not to induce artifacts - it may have an edge there. And finally, an OK resin. If those three things are comparable between printers, they should print identically. Ease and pleasure of use is another thing;)

[@RisingApe]

Yeh it’s a great machine and this is a great preview, your videos just get better. I think I am still in love with my Reflex to be honest it’s just so well made it’s unreal.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks brother! I’m actually favouring this one. I like those extra 3cm

[@RenAdra]

So if budget (1.5-2k preferably max) isnt really an issue, would this potentially be the best option for a no bullshit kinda approach to resin printing? I much prefer paying a premium for straight up plug and play solution and not having to deal with potential issues and what not. This seems promising but i wonder if there is other good solution of similiar quality, or is this the best of the best?

[@FauxHammer]

yeah, that;s my call too. right now there is only this

[@theVariedLife]

I actually appreciate this video and your prior ones. HeyGears has given us two great printers and the fact that the RS is less expensive, has bit bigger build plate, has one click support, slice and export along with printing faster is well worth the money imo. For others it may not and thats ok. For the people that complain about proprietary resins (me) I see the benefit of them. I also see where third party resins work great with HeyGears so it doesn't bother me that much considering all the benefits that come with this machine. Usually I don't buy pre-sale items but I'm going to make an exception in the case of the RS. Great videos bro, keep up the good work.

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you. This means the world

[@jiaweizhang7113]

Noob question, how does this compare to a form 4? Not considering the price, just performance.

[@FauxHammer]

I don;t have a form 4 to compare

[@jeffquigley9968]

The conversation around this reminds me so much of the conversations around Apple in the late 90s/early 2000s. Seems to me that it's okay if machines target specific audiences. As someone thinking about taking the plunge into resin printing, it's very tempting.

[@Speakhardly]

This sounds incredible. Thanks for the review. I think you just convinced me to buy HeyGears instead of Elegoo.

[@patrickvernae]

For the full review, could you possibly address the print quality when compared to DLP options like the Elegoo Mars 4 DLP. I understand they aren't on the same level when it comes to build quality and ease of use features. Thanks, your videos have been a tremendous help. I appreciate it

[@rsilvers129]

Mars is not a DLP printer. It’s MSLA.

[@FauxHammer]

The "Mars 4 DLP" is DLP mate, there were 4 different Mars 4 printers. Normal, Ultra, Max and DLP. As for the difference. this is easily as sharp as any DLP I have seen, and has a higher resolution.

[@kieronlong7032]

I could never afford this printer but I have no problem with proprietary resin. If the prints work and you get consistently successful prints then the resin has paid for itself. I would say on average 1/4 to 1/3 of my resin goes to failed prints even when fully supported so I'm completely on board with this. Great video Ross. Always loved your channel.

[@anthonylong5870]

The resin is $45 to $55 a kg......THATS STUPID!

[@FauxHammer]

$33-$90 mate

[@windforward9810]

Siraya Tech Fast ABS-Like is anywhere from $28 to 36 (rounded up) for 1 kg. Using his above numbers over lost resin you are looking at .250 to .333 Kg lost which amounts to for every 3 to 4 kgs you have basically lost 1 bottle. So you get anywhere from 2 to 3 kgs of printed models with supports. At 2kg this cost you $84 for 3kg it’s $112 at $28. At $36 it’s $108 to $144. Let’s say on Heygear all prints are good at 2 kg for PRAPR10 at $45 a bottle that’s $90 for a better print for the 3 kg it’s $135 it less than 4 bottles of good prints with Siraya Tech. The quality is on the high end do to the X factor of you using a more commercial and consistent printer. So if you print a lot and are buying there resin you should come out with either a savings or break even. Note I use Sunlu resin so where I would come out reducing cost and time is over the support due the size and removing the supports. I love my GKTWO but there times when the Sunlu resin is just not up to par so I’ve got wasted resin.

[@8bits955]

@@anthonylong5870 that is cheap for what they provided happily take that over the 200+ resin on other printers of this caliber

[@Kendrik01]

I'm an FDM guy who has a massively modified Ender 3 V2 and has stepped back from the "printers as a project" with the Bambu X1C. I've avoided resin like the plague because I have no desire to deal with learning a new set of proficiencies along with all the safety requirements that come along with resin. The Heygears is the only printer I'm actually considering because it minimizes the knowledge I'd have to pick up. Now if only someone could make non-toxic resin.... :)

[@FauxHammer]

Well put, I;ve seen a lot of this lately. Resin is much easier to dial in than FDM, but yeah, Even I'm bored of it to a degree.

[@Calle28]

Just bought a Saturn 4 ultra. Didnt mess with the settings, just set it up ( takes about 15 minutes ) and printed my first miniature. It came out perfect. I had no knowledge , just now messing with the settings a bit. I was amazed. And that printer is a bit cheaper as this one.

[@FauxHammer]

@@Calle28cool. I love the Saturn 4 Ultra. It’s probably the best in its category in my opinion.

[@griffin_entertainment]

Please, on top of a Reflex vs Reflex RS video, we also need a comparison video of their resins, that might put to bed a lot of critics. Also a review of all the accessories, their need and functions, would be great for those that just like me want to start resin 3d printing. What are the life spam of the LCDs and other consumables? Also, if possible, can you make a Reflex RS vs Saturn 4 Ultra? Please!!!😇😅 I'm between this 2 options. Great video! Thanks

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, I did that follow up video. but i;m leaving it for a bit now, This is an unpopular machine and i;m taking the flack for liking it

[@smkole2]

Hey Ross. Thank you for the discount link. Just ordered the printer heater package. I have been in maching and fabrication for 30 years as well as 3D printing and Industrial printing for 10 years. Been waiting for Consumer resin printers to become more Formlabsish. Like Bambu has done for FDM, Hey Gears is doing for resin. Thanks again.

[@FauxHammer]

Hope you enjoy it! I don’t use anything else now

[@Alphachanel]

Honestly? If I was running a print farm where resin printing was part of the service (or I was making decent money from my printers) then this would be the go to choice. The time saved from mucking around with getting the resin dialled in, the supports right and so on would more than make up for the extra cost and propriety resin to be able to just, to quote, drag, drop, go. To know that the print will come out bang on and with the turn around time being shorter (due to the previously mentioned faffing around) means the client/customer gets their print at the highest quality in the shortest turn around which means time saved=money saved=more prints=more money made... and the price isn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting either (even the full, non discounted pre-order price).

[@AntiVaganza]

Yes and no, I'd think. If you were running a print farm, then setting up a profile would take at most 2h or so. And that 2h would be well spent as you would then never have to touch the profile again. It's a one time deal. And the more prints you do, the less of an issue it is to have to dial in a resin.

[@Alphachanel]

@@AntiVaganza There is that but a resin formula can and do change over time, with the HeyGears if they change a formula it'll come in a download and you won't have to recalibrate again. Added to that would be different jobs requiring different resin... granted it'd be best to have multiple resin printers for this but I'd imagine resin prints would, for the most part, take up a small percentage of most farms output (I'm hawking a loogie into the wind here as I don't run a farm but the majority I've seen are FDM first and foremost).

[@matthewtorpey79]

Thank you for the video. This printer looks great as honestly, I would pay for proprietary resin to avoid the constant wondering what setting I should change next.

[@FauxHammer]

I totally agree!

[@heimdall2099]

Does this machine allow for any other slicing software to be used with it? Also, I read somewhere online that the official slicer won't work without an active online connection - is this true?

[@FauxHammer]

No it only works with Blueprint and no. I don’t think you need an online connection. You can use their cloud service to store and transfer files. But that’s optional

[@OrenjiZone]

Once in a Six Side just released a video to show that you can not use the official slicer without an active online connection. Even if you are logged in and loose the online connection.

[@HeyGears]

Hi, our printer only works with the sliced files from the Blueprint Studio, our slicing software. As part of our software development roadmap, an offline Non-Login mode for Blueprint, which includes offline slicing functionality, is due to be ready by December 2024. This Non-Login mode will feature capabilities to cover general usage if a network connection is not available and does not require an account registration or login.

[@brittanyyan7357]

Unfortunately, yes. This machine only works with sliced files created by HeyGears' slicing software. But you can use the other software to create your supports and export the stl files, then drag to the software to complete slicing.

[@OrenjiZone]

@@HeyGears So when Fauxhammer said that his slicer worked in offline mode (in the comments here), did he already have access to this new version? Can you make this (I assume) alpha version to other people as well, or is it restricted only to people you work together closely for now?

[@dominiquebertrand6786]

I ended up getting the RS, while I love tinkering ( I built my Prusa3D Mks3 from a kit ) I don’t have unlimited free time to do a lot of testing and tweaking of settings for the resin. I also figure failed prints = lost resin. At that point the proprietary ecosystem made sense to me, I am willing to pay more for less frustration, it’s a hobby it has to be fun.I have joined many Facebook user groups of resin printers before I made my choice and it’s not all pretty out there.

[@FauxHammer]

Exactly why i love it too

[@threecreepio]

I feel like I'm very well within in their target audience, the price is far better than I expected and I'd happily pay for something made by people who put this much care into their product, but I'm also quite opposed to some of their practices (the lack of resin choice, the always-online requirement of their slicer that sends every action to their servers, the silly attempt to lock the sliced output files.. and that's just the bits i know about!) and have disliked the responses they give about them online. :) Fortunately they don't ship to my country so I don't have to concern myself about which would win out. Looks like another great, high quality printer anyway!

[@anthonylong5870]

So you want to pay $45-$55 a kg for resin? have at it lol

[@jaym2381]

@@anthonylong5870 I have to put premium gas in my car. You don't have to be a dick.

[@TheFreestyleStorm]

@@anthonylong5870 to not mess with resin calibration? yeah lol

[@wodkrah6055]

Danke!

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you so much. You are a legend. I hope you will be at Essen Spiel this week?

[@ParamediCass]

I was just about to look at getting a new printer. Couldn't have came at a better time 😅

[@ProjectDefi]

i just bought a saturn 4 ultra

[@seanbarnes811]

I quite agree with your conclusion, It's the same reason I bought a Bambu X1C, I also have 2 Creality and a Prusa FDM but the Bambu is next level slice, send print done 99.9% success rate and no wasting filament anymore tweaking to get a decent print, I will happily add this to my printers as I want something that prints without having to tinker tweak and improve I just want to be able to get on with the current project not make the printer the project. The proprietary resin is OK as long as it not priced sensibly same as I quite often buy Bambu filament as the quality and reliability is there. Enjoy you vids, keep up the good work :-)

[@FauxHammer]

thanks mate, yeah I buy Bambu filament too, just to avoid the headache

[@MobiusGT]

Honestly their resin costs more than i would like. 1kg of clearish resin doesnt need to be $90 a kg

[@mitcho590]

Really? $90 per kg? Holy crap.

[@mitcho590]

Really? $90? Holy crap

[@MobiusGT]

@@mitcho590 yeah its kinda nuts, that said greedy3d has been testing to see if resins from other brands work. He was able to make a lot of 3rd party normal resin work and even got the one transparent resin he tried to work as well. he mentioned plans of trying other clear resins as well

[@FauxHammer]

PAS10 is $35?

[@IIADAMII]

PAT10 (the transparent resin) isn't listed as compatible with the RS. You'd need the more expensive printer for that privilege.

[@infernalbird2]

I hope I can get one of these in the near future! Thanks for putting this kind of video out and thank you for the intelligent arguments and thoughtfulness of the details for the points. Thanks!

[@FauxHammer]

thanks kindly!

[@lunisean]

The only time I have ever heard a KZbinr reference polyamory to compare the love of multiple things.

[@GodFinger]

Reflex is the best printer I have ever used. Accuracy, convenience, hardware reliability, it is different from other companies' cheap printers.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep, different League.

[@mephitstophilis]

Ross, i think you slightly buried the lede on this video. Heygears' system didn't really click for me until literally the last minute. They're industrial manufacturers? Of course! Tight integration for maximum efficiency and performance is the norm with industrial machinery. I dabble with 3D printing, but professionally I work in traditional printing (laser, wide-format signage, etc.). All of our machines use proprietary materials, whether it's liquid ink, powder toner or repair parts. But the thing is, they all just work. Load it, hit continue, and keep working, because downtime is the profit-killer, not proprietary parts. That's Heygears' business model. I completely get the antipathy toward it, but i now really understand where Heygears are coming from, too.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep, that’s exactly right. But I have nothing industrial to compare to. It’s a different leave to the rest. But in the consumer space it’s in its own. But it’s in its own. And without a rival, it’s hard to showcase it against anything else.

[@Tee3001]

I can see where you're coming from with your love for these printers. Proprietary will probably always have the best consistency and results for prints without having to do fine tuning with your printer. I just can't get over the whole proprietary thing. Most people printing just want good prints with decent prices and can get over the quirks of the other brands. I can get a $400 printer, use any resin I want and i'm satisfied. I appreciate your video though and if I consider getting a best of the best printer in the future you really helped.

[@FauxHammer]

Thankyou for your understanding

[@bbbo85]

Forget proprietery resin. Their cloud slicer being the only thing that will let you print stuff should be automatic absolute no go for anyone besides businesses that can afford to change fleet en masse 5 years down the line. This is 25kg to be paperweight ticking time bomb. I think you just missed this with no ill intent, but I disagree on your statement on one of the comments that read "I highly doubt that Heygears, being the large, professional industry level company they are, are planning for a scenario of huge downtime and server outage." Bunch of Google services, Sony cloud DVD shop, Spotify Car Thing, Amazon digital picture frame, Ubisoft Crew1 and bunch more jazz are gone or have altered their services greatly resembling none of their initial offerings. I believe Heygear is just a drop in the ocean compared to those companies. I hope people skips this printer until they fix it.

[@FauxHammer]

Just to be accurate on this important point, it was already on the HeyGears roadmap to remove this part of the software and it’s coming in the next update

[@bbbo85]

@@FauxHammer That's great to hear and when they deliver, I'll have no more issues with it. I've just seen so many things go south.

[@FauxHammer]

@@bbbo85 So have I and as I have done in the past, if I believed this would be the case, I'd be telling you. I've called out numerous brands because they have a track record of letting consumers down. But HeyGears, whilst hated for proprietary resin most of all, have delivered so much in just the reflexes lifespan that I do genuinely have more faith in them than most. I wanted to try and convey that in my video and perhaps it's one to do in my follow-up video. But only time will tell for the majority of people. I think as more people receive their units and experience this and share their thoughts will we know. it's not a basket I'd put all my eggs in, because even I'm trepidacious. but they haven't failed to deliver yet.

[@AntiVaganza]

​@@FauxHammer I guess your recent post is about this whole thing. I don't think you are a shill, but I think taking a shot at the non-users when your whole channel is about educating non-users is a tad off. Maybe there are some toxic idiots out there, I try to stay away from that part of YT "culture". And I can only speak for myself but there that goes: I would probably be OK with the price since I like well-built stuff. As for the locked slicer, I actually am more against cloud slicing(?) from a privacy standpoint. And no, I am not a tin hat, I actually worked as a journo and lived in the motherland of HeyGears for a decade and I know from experience that safeguarding personal data or IP is not taken that seriously there. Whether the company will tell you they protect it or not doesn't matter. I have literally been approached by companies there, companies I have never ever talked to before, because a staffer from another company, which I have talked to, stole the customer list and brought it to his new employer. But (as a non-user) I simply no zero interest until they let me create my own resin profiles. Not because I want cheap resin, but because I need some specialty engineering resins and if HeyGears doesn't make exactly what I need, well, then it's not the right printer for me. To me, they are just missing out on a bigger market share which is all the tinkerers who actually don't mind the price and like the quality. They can get them all, the people who like the set-and-forget it ease and they could get the rest. It really doesn't have to be either or. Unless, their business model is dependant on selling a lot of resin.

[@ronaldbell7429]

People who find one thing and declare that an "automatic no go" are so tedious and simplistic. Five years from now if the company is still around, you'll never come back and say you were wrong. You'll just have some other line and double down. Whereas if I were to buy one and in 5 years it went belly up AND they hadn't made provision for the people who'd bought their printers (neither of which seems a likely scenario for those of us IRL), then most people will probably look around and say "Damn, look at how far things have advanced in 5 years. I needed me one of these new doohickies anyway." Calm down and stop preaching at people.

[@duanebendt]

I have always appreciated your honesty concerning different printers and the depth of your explanation concerning what you believe. Honestly, I think this may be the perfect resin printer. And I haven’t even used my Saturn S yet because I’m still getting all my ducks in a row. I can understand people wanting freedom of choice but if this resin is the best for this machine and you don’t waste resin because of zero failed prints, then the freedom argument is moot. In my opinion. Keep making videos how you know to make them and keep being honest about the printer, resin and slicers and I will keep watching. Thank you very much for the service you provide. It is appreciated much more than you realize.

[@zomarz]

I don’t mind proprietary resin AT ALL if it’s affordable and leads to better results/ease of use. My Saturn 4 Ultra died after a month (user error, overfilling->tons of leakage through tilting vat). Everyone needs to understand that there are plenty of people that don’t know what exposure settings even are but just want to 3D print, and this seems like the perfect printer for that. Sure an open system would be nice, but only for those that are enthusiasts and know a lot about 3D printing and how to dial in resin, which let’s be honest here that’s not the majority of people and it never will be. After owning sonic mini 8k, Saturn 4 ultra, mars 5 ultra (all very impressive printers that I loved), I just received the Reflex (non-RS) and right out of the box you can tell the build quality is absolutely next level. This is not a toy, this is a machine I trust to be used by my employees at my dental clinic that know nothing about 3D printing (unlike all the others I’ve owned before)

[@S.A.S.H.]

I understand all the tech, all the settings, and have ZERO interest in that being my hobby I want 3D printers, FDM or resin to be tools for my real hobbies. This, much like the two Bambu Lab printers I used instead of the five other FDM I have, would likely relegate my two Elegoo resin printers to the dusk-collection shelf.

[@jaym2381]

@@S.A.S.H. I think that's probably where the biggest disagreements about things like this come in: for some 3D printing is the hobby, and for others (I'm with you) 3D printing is a tool to facilitate hobbies. An expensive tool, mind, but then some people have very expensive hobbies as well.

[@S.A.S.H.]

@@jaym2381 100%.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep. Exactly what I meant. Well said!

[@kklh7918]

You want the jazz of a printer without learning how it works

[@christophertaylor9828]

First time commenting on this channel. I've been thinking of getting into 3d printing and getting a 3D resin printer and been watching your review and comparison videos. This one as given me a lot of food for thought. I do find the integrated system a very appealing approach.

[@FauxHammer]

Welcome aboard!

[@TheGabb3r]

Looks like a great machine, but waaaaay too much expensive for my blood. Love the innovations HeyGears are bringing in the resin world though.

[@eighty-eighth_section]

Great preview! Thank you for what you provide to the community/makers.

[@1grumpychris]

Integrity is never easy to maintain. Keep up the good work and keep speaking truth. Your channel is quickly becoming one of the few that is taken as an uncorrupted opinion for consumers.

[@FauxHammer]

Thankyou for your understanding. The bigger I get the more comments I get contrary to this and I have to be honest, with everything I do to maintain my integrity, those comments trigger me. Yours has made my day... I turned down $700 to make this video about the machine!

[@kaosmachine]

Really? because I saw some serious bias going on in this video, particularly when it comes to the lack of a resin vat heater coming standard with a $1000 printer. He called out the Saturn 4 Ultra for it which is less than half the cost but Heygears gets a free pass. Oh, also he mentioned "Honesty" as something this company is known for when they lie on their own marketing literature about the wavelength of their lighting systems(Fun Fact: the Reflex is not 385nm, closer to 405 actually than it is to 385). That aside, it looks like it is a great product and they are learning from what Bambu is doing in the FDM space. I just dont think they should be purposefully preventing you from dialing in your own resins at your own risk. If their slicer wont work, then disable the auto-support function when using third-party resins, but dont make it impossible to do so. If Heygears goes out of business, jacks their prices up, or discontinues the resin you rely on, you are screwed. I personally wont give a company leverage over me on proprietary consumables, they will eventually take advantage of you because they can.

[@biogenic26]

Just ordered using your code. I stopped resin printing a couple of years ago and was looking at getting back into it again. This machine seems like a no brainer, printing isn't my hobby so I just need a machine that's going to work without messing around with different settings. If Greedy 3D keeps testing different resins using the default settings and they work then the affordability of proprietary resin doesn't matter too much.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks so much. And yeah I’m sure he will!

[@juanvilla2228]

Why am I soo excited about this? Can't wait.

[@gigihanmandarin]

Because GAS Gear Acquiring Syndrome kicking in.

[@nicholasflorida1994]

Probably the same reason you were so excited for the CyberTruck...

[@jasonc212]

This is a good video. Like you, i was a bit hesitant on l proprietary resins. As i do professional printing and needed a much more vast array of resin materials, i ended up going with the Form 4. Now, THAT cost a lot, but what i found is that having a company that has their printer resin dialed in, and a slicer that knows its resin and machine, the failure level is decreased to actually save money. Multiply that over a longer time, and the initial investment put in isn't nearly as bad. Add in the piece of mind, and it's not a hard choice if you have the money. While the Form 4 can print outside resin, I like that the material is simply superior in its comparables to other brands in hardness, flexural strength, heat resistance, etc. I like that it can print silicone, aluminum, and polyurethane. I like those options (not that i use all of them). But if i didnt get the Form 4, i wouldve gotten this. To me time is also money, and having time from start to finish is a game changer.

[@FauxHammer]

So true. This is the difference between companies that make printers and companies that make solutions HeyGears’s and Formlabs make solutions and deliver a superior journey and product The product is more than the machine. It’s everything around it.

[@meadmaker4525]

As someone who does not own a resin printer, and therefore have no bias one way or another, I can completely understand Hey Gears wanting to use only proprietary resin in their printers. It allows them to control the quality of the printed product to the nth degree, which is clearly what matters to them the most. Quality. Full stop. If they open it up to other resins, print quality will likely suffer, thus making their equipment seem inferior/flawed to those who don't understand it's likely down to the cheap or poorly tuned resin they were using. On the other hand, I completely understand the fear of spending a ton of money on a fantastic printer that only uses proprietary resin, which may be a lot more expensive than other resins on the market, and which may at any point become forever unavailable if Hey Gears goes under (yes, I know, they won't) or chooses to stop doing these printers for one reason or another, leaving you with an expensive, useless brick on your bench. Both arguments make sense. I guess it comes down to whether or not you've got enough money to either not care or blindly trust that, when you buy this Hey Gears printer, the 2nd argument will just never become reality. And if that's the case, then the whole thing is moot and all that's left is to maybe whinge about the cost of the resin, but if you've spent that much money on the printer and its accessories, you likely don't care about that either. I mean, the detail on that Hey Gears printer is INSANE!! So, if you want/need that, then you pay the cost of entry to get it and you pay for their resin and you enjoy it. It clearly seems to be the Bambu X1C of resin printers. Just simple-stupid to use, with fantastic results every single time. For everyone else, there are really, really good resin printers out there that don't use proprietary resin. Why argue beyond that?

[@FauxHammer]

Damn, youv’e literal just summed up my entire follow-up video in 3 paragraphs!

[@meadmaker4525]

@@FauxHammer - LOL...sorry mate. Didn't mean to steal your thunder. Just seemed like the most sensible argument, objectively speaking. Really don't understand all the hate directed at this printer or Hey Gears.

[@FauxHammer]

@@meadmaker4525 Thanks. good to know in advance you feel this is sensible. Now just to add some pomp and drama to that and I have a Video!

[@dwilliams660]

its like apple, ppl feel the same way about them too

[@FauxHammer]

@@JohnSmith-rt5yqoh I have some very special clickbait planned for this one!

[@justinfritz8796]

I currently have a Saturn Ultra 3, love it. Ross' recommendation was spot on for that one. First thought when I hear "Proprietary Resin" my first thought always runs to companies like HP and how crap the printer market has become. However, everything you have shown and everything you have said has convinced me. I don't like tinkering. I just want it to print top tier with minimal effort. I got an Ankermake M5 for FDM for that reason. I did not think it would be possible in resin but now I am planning to get a heygear as my next resin printer.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks. Glad you see it. And good example with the M5. It is sad that the V6 never came. But it was a great approach my AnkerMake and I hope they keep trying. They are making in the Bambi leave. They are just a weaker team right now

[@danii_boy6831]

19:37 Bambu Labs offer optimized profiles for their filaments AND 3rd party filaments, AND the option to customize those profiles. On sub $1,000 printers, no less. Why should heygears be any exception?

[@FauxHammer]

It’s completely different technology. Pla is mostly pla Abs is mostly abs But ABS like resin is different from every brand. It just wouldn’t work the same way as it does in FDM

[@danii_boy6831]

and stop denying you're a shill in every video, its annoying and it makes you look like a shill.

[@ichisaur]

@@FauxHammerFrom all I’ve seen about resin printing, there’s arguably less to calibrate with third party resins than FDM material. And it’s not like Bambu is supporting all brands. They have a list of third party brands they support with dedicated profiles and then let the user customize the profiles for materials that aren’t supported. Why can’t HeyGears do the same? They can keep the benefits of using their resins in place, with dedicated support, auto detection, the spout, and pre-tuned settings, while still allowing the user to customize settings. They can even make the user agree to a warning that result may not be in line with the supported resins. You keep stating that HeyGears are trying to be like Bambu, but coming from the FDM side, it doesn’t really seem that way. It feels more like they’re trying to be FormLabs or Stratasys in a consumer market. Bambu is proprietary and has their own ecosystem, but they have been so far very accepting and supportive of the existing FDM ecosystem in allowing third party filaments, collaborating with aftermarket accessory makers, allowing X1Plus custom firmware, using any slicer, allowing control over 3rd party connections, and improving offline capability. HeyGears is doing none of that.

[@FauxHammer]

@@danii_boy6831 Sure thing, will do! If there's anything I respond positively to it's people who demand change!...I'll make sure I do this from now on specifically because you told me to.

[@danii_boy6831]

@@FauxHammerTheres more filaments than PLA. ABS, PETG, etc, all of which Bambu Lab offer their own profiles for, generic profiles for 3rd party filaments, AND the option to customize every aspect of the profile. Your point about brands changing their resin's mixes doesn't work either because what's stopping Heygears from doing the same thing with their resins AND their profiles, in a way that negatively affects print quality? You can't fix it yourself. It's an air of "just trust us" that's completely antithetical to 3d printing.

[@benthomsen2220]

Thanks, probably convinced to get one of these as my first printer.

[@FauxHammer]

Diving in at the pro end! Nice!

[@wimperbriones7464]

In this video... You sound like Uncle Jessy reviewing an elegoo product...

[@FauxHammer]

Ouch. But only because I know you meant that as an insult. But he does his thing, I do mine. I mean this is how I genuinely feel about it. But if you want to take it that way. I’m not gonna fight you.

[@basilisk6666]

I will consider HG when it can use with other slicer or they unlock their slicer to use with other printers.

[@FauxHammer]

I do t think that’s their business model. But if we get a printer anywhere near this in terms of quality, They may rethink it. I currently don’t know of any brands that come close. But also. Dies anyone really need to? It’s not like Saturns aren’t selling in droves!!!

[@nobodyuknow4911]

While I'm not really their target customer, I definitely like that they are in the market and bringing options and new benefits to the market place for Resin Printer Companies to compete with and ultimately have to fold into their designs. I think HeyGears will eventually have to bend a little with their "walled garden" approach, perhaps offer some sort of option to use 3rd party resins in an "empty/refill" bottle...

[@StagsmanUK]

I get that some are scoffing at the price and the fact that is uses their own resin, but i think that this printer is not aimed at them, i see this as being aimed at people who want consistent quality prints without the faff of setting the printer up for the best print it can achieve using whatever resin they are using. With this 'system' it takes away the messing about finding out which resin works best for what they need, i can see this being worth the extra expense if the quality can be achieved first time when time is money. If i was in the market for a resin printer i would be keeping an eye on HeyGears, and saving up.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep, you got it!

[@walterramirez3287]

As a new fan of the hobby I went with the S4Ultra. If I was going to sell what I print I would definitely take a closer look at HeyGears. Tons of good options. Maybe all HeyGears have to do is lower the price of the resins and have a monthly low subscription for tech support or a monthly lower resin price for those that print a lot and buy a lot of resin. But If I had money to burn, I would go for this printer for sure. Can’t do that now because I’m not sure if this hobby is in my long term plans. Thanks again for another informative video.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks a lot. And the S4U is awesome! FYI You can use your own resins Greedy3D and Rising Ape have proved it

[@marcus_w0]

This is a totally different product than your standard elegoo or anycubic machine. It it designed to work as an appliance to be used by workers. Like a fax machine and it just has to work. So they have to rigg it up and make it as hassle-free as resin-printing will get. That's why, there are proprietary resins and a price that screams "professional use" instead of hobby printer for miniatures. It's simply not the same product as a saturn 4.

[@windforward9810]

You go buy a regular paper printer they use there own printer medium which is designed to give you the best print. You use the brand x replacement ink the quality drops a lot. So at some point a mfg will make a resin like that is cheaper that can be substituted for resin with a drop in quality or you can refill the bottle try to see the difference.

[@Helgram]

Wow. You have changed my mind about proprietary resin for this printer. You have got me thinking about this printer.

[@FauxHammer]

really how so? Is it still changed?

[@cidercreekranch]

HeyGear == FormLabs == BambuLab

[@chrisspyroman]

That's just insulting towards Bambulab

[@AntiVaganza]

A fallacy as BambuLabs does allow 3rd party filaments. None of the other two, as of now, allow 3rd party materials to be used.

[@really_wheeler]

Proprietary resin makes sense (as you said) for those who don’t have the knowledge, time, or energy to dial in settings for other resins. For me, the idea of having little extra work to do because of the settings already being dialed in makes this a printer I’d be interested in getting. Sure the resolution is less than what is the “industry standard”, but I’d take complete prints consistently over hyper detailed prints 1/3 of the time anyday. That being said I’m still an elegoo stan, but I’m liking the extra features (especially the heater) of this printer and if I have the funds will be grabbing it!

[@FauxHammer]

Good call. I’m an Elegoo fan too. They have stayed very consistent.

[@really_wheeler]

@@FauxHammer For sure! I may have pulled the trigger on buying the reflex rs 😂 I trust your work and am looking forward to having it in the printer lineup!

[@ReedCBowman]

If they want to guarantee and support perfection in printing with their machines with proprietary resin, more power to them. But that doesn't mean the machine needs to be locked down to their resin. I doubt they claim that other resins will damage the machine in some way that would prevent their resins from working again. So no problem. They can say "this is out of the box, hands down, the best prosumer resin printer system when used with our resins. With other resins, YMMV and don't call us." This would solve everyone's issues, and still sell tons of their resin if it's really that good and that easy. If they say no to this, then it means just one thing: they want to get their money selling you overpriced, and yes, I mean overpriced, resin. Period. Same as the inkjet printer makers. And they deserve, in that case, to be called out, and to have an industry built up around jailbreaking their resin system.

[@dariansutton5503]

They can’t just say don’t call us with other resins. People will still call and say “I’m using a good resin, your machine is crap.” No one fact checks consumer reviews. They would need a way to validate what resin was used.

[@jaym2381]

They don't say it will damage/destroy your printer, they do say they don't support other resins, which means just that. Don't try to use the fault ticket system if your print doesn't come out OK, because they simply won't help - and have no obligation to do so. The cat is already out of the bag that other resins work fine, and they haven't stopped providing review equipment to the reviewer that tested that (the opposite, in fact). Don't expect them to go announcing it though. Why should they?

[@ronaldbell7429]

It would wind up damaging their brand more than it would help. It's the same reason Apple doesn't let people post app reviews while using pre-release iOS. It'll just result in a lot of complaints where people aren't smart or honest enough to realize the problem was on their side but in the review they want to blame the machine. There's other choices. Find a machine that does what you want. But I think the only valid criticism of this machine is if it made claims of excellence and turned out to give prints that weren't better than your style of printer. Foaxhammer is saying pretty definitely that they live up to the hype.

[@tomostinato2918]

Great review. Proprietary resin totally makes sense for business users. The time savings it makes possible would more than offset any increase in resin cost.

[@timblake3499]

I’m not sure I can trust your opinion anymore. This makes no sense.

[@FauxHammer]

How so?

[@timblake3499]

@@FauxHammer because this is either an advertisement or you have lost touch with your viewers. Either way, the cost of the machine, the proprietary and expensive resin, and the proprietary slicer means you are beholden to a company for no reason. There is zero redeeming quality in this machine for the home user. This is an enterprise machine priced for enterprise buyers being marketed through your channel to hobbyists.

[@FauxHammer]

@@timblake3499forgive my different opinion. But this is neither. You can of course choose who you watch. But I have put out my original reflex review. I was against proprietary resin I followed up when they released a cheaper resin and I really started to warm to the printer. When the spec of that one was announced. I expected not to hate is. But I used it and really loved the experience. Now that is me. This delivered what I want, it gives me an experience I prefer over other machines and I would pay the premium they offer for it. Do I like proprietary resin? No. Do I understand it. Yes. Still nobody has answered how resin printing could be easier without proprietary resin. Everything I said in this video was dead on and I have explained my reasoning and full journey over the course of 3 In this video I have very clearly and directly said “if you are not for this approach “DO NOT BUT THIS MACHINE” I even put it in big bold letters in the screen.. Now in regard to “loosing touch”. What does that even mean? Do you want honest 3D printer reviews or not? You tell me I should not be beholden to any company. I am not, I reiterated this. But I should also not be beholden to mass opinion… this machine and brand approaches 3D printing in a unique and original way. It is jarring tk experience at first. It was so for me when I first used the reflex. But the software and machines have improved so much that this is now measurable the machine that give the best quality prints with the easiest user experience. And they do so at a price that “I”, “Personally” would pay. Your wants and needs are your own. And I can’t pretend this isnt what it is, just because a portion of my audience is strongly against it. I am equally cannot be beholden to a desire for popularity. You say you cannot trust my opinion anymore. But did you watch this video and decide that the printer is not for you? Because it seems like you are very against this machine. But if you watched my video and decided you do not want this printer. Then what is your problem with me? I did my job well it seems.

[@robinbiggs3577]

Thanks another great video love the printer it’s not the complete package there are glaring errors in design but it works and isn’t that what we are all looking for so when it comes to pricing that’s down to the individual What grips me is the way it’s priced against the US market that’s just money grabbing in the exchange rate sad they thought they needed to do it Hey I may purchase got time before the promotion ends PS don’t let the negativity of others ruin your joy

[@bahamut256]

Come on dude, you are contradicting yourself every two minutes trying to give this abomination a chance. You say its got a high build quality, then two minutes later you say its all plastic with only metal in a few locations. You say this thing has auto levelling and praise it. Then a minute later you say that it has levelling screws to manually level it, meaning its not an auto-levelling printer. You claim that its a good thing it doesn't have a built in heater because you can just heat the room instead, or buy a different companies heater. Wtf? The price is absolutely insane, the proprietary resin is a cancerous idea and everybody hates the idea for a good reason. I know you have to play nice or they will stop sending you more printers to review, but this review is disingenuous at best.

[@omi_liang]

On the contrary, I think the plastic shell is a good choice because I would rather spend my money on something more useful.I think automatic leveling and manual leveling are compatible. There is no conflict. I think sometimes automatic leveling may not be fully compatible.

[@Dstinct]

A printer does not have to be all metal in order to be high build quality. Its how its built that matters. If they use a metal frame for rigidity and plastic shell to keep it light, that's a quality build. Most vehicles have plastic shells now instead of metal for the same reason. In the video, he stated that most printers that claim to have auto leveling do not. This printer comes auto calibrated from the factory. The screws are there in the event for some reason they screwed up the calibration. Your comment is disingenuous because you are either willfully misstating what was said, or you didn't actually listen to what was said.

[@awildtomappeared5925]

the price isn't insane, they might even be selling it at a loss hoping to make their money back in resin. the printers you are used to by elegoo and anycubic are way cheaper because A they get CCP money, and B they are awful quality, especially the new ones with the `auto level plates' that do no such thing and cause more issues than it solves. If you don't want a printer at this price range then don't buy it there are 10x more at cheaper price ranges.

[@bahamut256]

@@awildtomappeared5925 You can buy three Gk2's for the price of this printer bud. It's comically overpriced.

[@Bad_Idea_Mike]

If I had not just bought a GKtwo, I would consider this printer. But as I am going through a 2 kg bottle of resin every 3 weeks printing out OPR armies, being able to use Sunlu ABS like at $40 a bottle makes my hobby easier on my wallet. That is compaired to $45 a kg bottle of PARP10. I don't have the perfect print quality of the HeyGears, but I can affort a few misprints. Thanks again dude for helping me choose my GKtwo!

[@anthonylong5870]

Why are you spending $40 a bottle for Sunlu resin? Its like $25 on Amazon....And theres resin just as good for $18

[@jaym2381]

@@anthonylong5870 I think yoiu missed this: "going through a 2 kg bottle of resin" which kinda implies he's buying the 2kg bottles

[@Bad_Idea_Mike]

@@anthonylong5870 2kg bottle for $40, not the 1kg bottle.

[@BrimstoneBeard]

A lot of people seem to overlook that the price is not just for the machine and it's features. The support offerings and R&D etc. are all factored in, you aren't just buying a printer with this, you are buying a service and consistency. I've been looking at my next printer to purchase for a business I am starting and the features it offers are very tempting. I am likely to still go towards a GK3 as the volume is a big factor for me and it has enough features that I don't mind spending a little time dialling it in, if it means I can save more time with less print runs overall. This is still very much something to consider as the overall process is so streamlined it's hard to compare. I guess if I had infinite money I would buy a bunch of these for a farm, but that is not within my means at present 😅

[@FauxHammer]

I completely understand that

[@ronaldbell7429]

As someone who is considering buying a 3D printer, one of the things that's kept me on the fence for a long time is the fiddliness, the testing, the fails. It's not that I don't think I can do those things so much as that I don't want to. I love computers but have no desire to dive in to Linux. It's the difference between buying a car to go places and becoming a shade tree mechanic. I've had some of those in my family and they're awesome, but they're doing it because they like it, not because they bought a clunker and got trapped in some episode of the twilight zone.

[@FauxHammer]

great analogy

[@Buggles5123]

This looks so good, and would so love to have one, as I am really getting into D&D and other systems and this would be perfect. Your review of this machine and the previous versions were just nails in the coffin to try and convince me.

[@FauxHammer]

Thankyou!

[@aildon]

Thanks so much for the coverage. The bit about the support is a clincher for me. Looking forward to the comparison video.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks! Coming soon!

[@caiomolinari]

I'm sold already on the proprietary resin topic... It makes total sense that the only way to guarantee this level of printing quality also involves fixing the resin to be used... it's a full system 🤷 I'm seriously considering buying it and your review influences my purchase here a lot.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks kindly and I’m glad I explained it correctly

[@wingblaze21]

I'm just a hobbyist, not a pro, not a print farm. I like options. Some people want to tinker and enjoy it. Others want to press "print" and get the thingy and they're ok with paying more. I appreciate both options, and at different times, I've been both of those people. I don't see a problem with a manufacturer seeing a gap in the market and targeting their product at it.

[@FauxHammer]

Me either, but there is a vas popular opinion that this is downright evil.

[@motor1841]

Making friends in the comments I see Ross lol. This machine looks amazing and I'm sure companies out there will love it or even some individuals who just need their prototypes and need them now. I mean you can use this for minis and such and if the cost isnt an issue for you (value is subjective) the more power to you otherwise there are plenty of options out there to choose from. Enjoy your Elegoo or Uniformation or whatever printing experience and dont worry about others. Its not for me but I just bought 3 new printers and have the time to muck about and dial in my resins. Good video Ross as always.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate. Yeah if you have the money and want this for that money great, get it. If not. I love the Saturn 4, I love the Gk2. I love the 3 but I think it’s a bit big for my needs. It’s all about personal choice Crap, I meant to delete some comments where I’ve responded all pissed off. I did a community post to explain I got riled up and very defensive of over munchers t accusations of my integrity. Gonna go be quiet in a corner now

[@evanskan6326]

After watching their presentation I thought the machine came with a heated vat. Apparently, you buy it separately (it also supports the PRM module) but still, even so, it is still cheaper than the Reflex. I still like the idea of the automated procedure. I don't care about proprietary resin, especially if I don't have to worry about the settings. But I am talking about professional use and not for our hobby. For a professional, this machine is great. For someone who just uses 3D printing as a hobby, there are other and cheaper options out there.

[@edscott107]

Ordered mine. I love FDM 3D Printing but I really like the idea of not having the learning curve like I have had with FDM. Can’t wait for it to ship!

[@FauxHammer]

Hahah. You sound like a potential Ender 3 user

[@edscott107]

Nope, I started with an Artillery Sidewinder. I own Prusa now. Just like the idea of not having to instantly learn all the different settings and ways to calibrate with my first Resin Printer.

[@BrewsGamesRides]

Only problem with this video is no Ross dancing by the wash machine. Appreciate the details you put into this and look forward to seeing the resin tests and comparison. Cheers🍻

[@taromodelmaker]

Having just seen the prints in hand I am massively impressed by the out the box quality.

[@FauxHammer]

Fancy something else in your hand to look at. 😉😘

[@AeroMaquette]

There are two kinds of resin printers, like FDM printers. There are the tinkerers and those who are only interested in the quality of the prints. I am part of the latter group. I ditched my Anycubics FDMs for Bambu Labs printers, and I am very, very happy with this choice. I will buy the HeyGears because of the guaranteed results. To me, it is worth it, and I am not turned off whatsoever by the proprietary resin. It appears that HeyGears is looking at a different section of the market; those who use 3d printers as mean to an end.

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you for understanding

[@alexanderhutchings6070]

I work in the UK film industry, and resin printers have become the norm in a lot of workflows. Hey gears for me would be my choice. I don't have time to sit and dial in a resin we have such tight deadlines I just want the thing to work!

[@FauxHammer]

That's what this does. Brilliant

[@alexanderhutchings6070]

@@FauxHammer I will make sure I use your code, thanks for all the great videos

[@N0Sdog]

I feel like I already know the answer but I'm assuming that for ultra small detail stuff (intricate jewellery for example), that this printer would still be at an advantage over something that has a smaller pixel/µm size? I'm basing that off it being so well dialled in with the proprietry resin? As well as other factors like the higher res screens sometimes introducing softness?

[@FauxHammer]

Yesssss accuracy wise. However, if you are printing to cast… the casting resin right now, only works on the reflex. Not the newer RS

[@jonsmith2436]

So the screen and printing area is bigger than the Reflex? Its cheaper, so what did we sacrifice for bigger print area? Also i LOVE my Reflex and it made me fall back in love with Resin Printing. Have a buddy who 3d prints commercially with even Formlabs printers and printers worth 2-3x and he is blown away by the reflex prints and speed, so much so that he didnt believe me it printed at .3 and how fast it prints.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah people need to stop comparing this to Elegoo’s and stuff. It needs to be compared to a Formlabs

[@FauxHammer]

You basically loose the sluice gate and the screen is smaller. The control screen Reflex works with more of their resins (though I expect that’s just for now) if you do g use transparent or casting resin and stick with like PAU10 and the like. It’s the same quality. Maybe a little faster

[@GiancarloArriola3D]

Where can I get the minis starting at this time stamp 12:22 ?

[@FauxHammer]

You can’t anymore. He had to take them down

[@pinki64]

Thanks for the really great review! :) People are equally complaining in the FDM printer space about Prusa, it's really sad. I avoided resin printers so far, because of all the mess handling resin means (cleaning the printer, getting the resin back into the bottle, cleaning and harden the models, the hazardous waste, etc). This printer seems to be pretty good and maybe there are even better ones to be found on the market, but at least for me, Prusa still seems to have the best solution forhandling and minimizing all this mess. It's still not easy enough for me to consider buying it, but I would like to see more companies offering a solution for the full process of printing resin objects like Prusa did. Of course the Prusa solution is even more expensive than this, but I'm more than willing to pay for that if it eliminates everything that sucks about resin printing 😅

[@FauxHammer]

Really, what’s the Prusa complaints? I’m about to get one for review

[@DZMegamind]

great video mate, awesome editing awesome information well thought-out and well presented my advice to you is don't worry about the hate comment some people just live for that but I agree with some people here they should update it so you can easily use a different preset for non heyGrear resine that would really make it the ultimate printer love the vids keep'em coming

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks Man, I have told them to do this, but they came back with... If we did that, how could we ensure perfect high-quality printing en-masse (I'm paraphrasing for expediency). And I asked this question in the video... I'm still stumped as to a good answer for that. at the end of the day, yeah, I'm over the hate. This is a choice for people who want this choice. I don;t understand the anger from people who hate this. "Ok, you hate it..... then.... maybe.. just... don't... buy... it...?

[@GameCultureSculpture]

Thinking to get this brfire presale. My only problem is that temperatures drop under 0 a lot here. Heater seems pretty expensive for my budget right now. And i can't heat the room where printer would go,so room tempearture would probably drop to 40 f sometimes over night. I love that printer is click and play but worrying about temperatures. It would be my first printer. Would small room heater help until i get add one in the future? Thanks for the video,if i end up buying ill use your code. Cheers

[@FauxHammer]

Ideally you need to keep the printer above 20 degrees Celsius, ideally 25 degrees, so 77. You could put it in an enclosure with a small heater, but that is DIY? You'd be better off with the inbuilt heated vat. Sorry to say.

[@Halliden88]

I'm incredibly impressed with this machine and your honesty. Great video as usual. Thank you ❤

[@FauxHammer]

thanks so much

[@MichaelGThomas]

So you need the pulsing release module to have a heated vat, right?

[@FauxHammer]

no, you need the Pulsing release VAT, the module is a bit of an expense.

[@AlessandroBertolucci]

I want this printer (or it's older brother) - I just can't afford or justify it... yet. I'm still just putzing around with an old HalotOne I picked up used, but eventually I would updgrade to something like this. I like the ease of use and auto-supports you demonstrated. As for the resin - I can live with it because it's not a hobbiest printer. I expect this at the price point they sell their machines.

[@FauxHammer]

Great call

[@mkscaledesign]

I'm sold. I was planning to upgrade my Mars 3 to Saturn 4 Ultra but seeing this - this is the machine to go. I design and 3d print RC scale helicopter fuselages (FDM and mold making) and the scale parts - I need a machine that just works. Bambu was the thing on FDM side - and I build vorons before, Prusa etc.).

[@FauxHammer]

did you grab one? if so, how are you getting on with it?

[@Andru92-96]

I think for my first resin printer I best go with the Saturn 4 Ultra!

[@FauxHammer]

Yep, lot of people have started there, seems to be the best all-rounder

[@hylgariss]

Denis Wang gave a really good review of the printer as well, so I'm not sure how to feel about it. I bought the form 1+ a long time ago when it came out and that thing was super expensive to run, and failed on so many level ( hardware ). Once I started having some issues I was never able to get it to work properly again. Really worried about spending so much money and once the printer internal sensors start to fail, I'm left with a brick. Hopefully the printer has good customer service in the long run and can keep working for a long time without issues.

[@FauxHammer]

They have been solid with me, and that’s just in the slicer support

[@vpreef]

You mentioned you prefer heygears auto support over anyones manual supports as it gives you far leas post print cleanup to do. Is this with or without using the Pulsing release module?

[@FauxHammer]

When i did that test it was with the PRM. I printed those Puppetswar models in PARP10/PAP10 with the prm, and just flicked the supports off with no noticeable support marks left on the surface.

[@OscarOusey-yb7td]

@FauxHammer What’s up my dude, appreciate the in depth content. What’s your thoughts on the pulsing release module? I’m looking to spunk a few quid on the rs when the sale opens just not sure whether to get the prm and the heated vat combo. Will need a heated vat either way so will end up picking it up separately if I don’t go in on the combo. If my calculations are right the prm will cost me £365 👀 just wondering whether you think it’s worth it? You expertise will be greatly appreciated.

[@FauxHammer]

I like it to a point, it is an interesting difference and very technical, but It;s loud and makes only a small difference. it will help to make the contact points on auto supports smaller, but if you plan to print mostly pre-supported stuff. it;s kinda pointless

[@Brodoodle]

I am very tempted to get one as someone who has recently started selling my printer as a print on demand service I envy the slicer and its pre-supports so much. Just having piece of mind that the prints will "just work" would be well worth the cost to me in the long run.