FCC Shuts Down GMRS Repeater Network - Did The FCC Violate The 4th Amendment Of The Constitution?

UPDATE: You can see the interview with the President of the New York State GMRS Alliance club ,who's GMRS linked repeater network has been shut-down here: • Interview With New Yor...
The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) of the United States has allegedly requested that a repeater club shut-down a large GMRS repeater network that was linked via the internet for allegedly violating FCC Part 95 Rule 95.1733 and FCC rule Part 95.333.
In this video go over the letter that was sent to all the members of the GMRS club that owns the repeater and explain the two rules that the club was allegedly violating by connecting GMRS repeaters over the internet. Many people have alleged, and feel that this overreach of the Federal Government (the FCC) may violate not only the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, but it may also violate the 4th Amendment as well.
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[@TheNotaRubicon]

UPDATE: I interviewed the president of the club who's network was shut down - you can watch the interview here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXjKon6Er86nmdU

[@Malikyte13]

The only correct response to that email is "Come back with a warrant."

[@davidpyle7333]

So the IRS just called to say that the local police are on their way to arrest me for not paying my taxes, unless I go to CVS and buy $1,000 in GameStop gift cards. And give them my SSN and DoB. About as legit as an FCC email….

[@BigSlick40]

Damn, me too.

[@thomaswashburn3513]

Sucks to be you… my email said I’m getting $4 Mil from a distant relative in Nigeria 🇳🇬… All I had to do was send $5,000 to them to open the online banking channel… I have been anticipating the transfer for the past six months… I think they are waiting until I forgot about it… Then surprise me! Can’t wait… Lol

[@RKingis]

I thought I was the only one.

[@NukaVaultReadiness]

Do not redeem the giftcard before you give it to them haha

[@hithere7382]

@@NukaVaultReadiness Why not?

[@frankdevine5831]

Without showing actual evidence that the alleged email in-fact came from the FCC, I have doubts about the legitimacy of the email.

[@Reimerguns]

It's on New York. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. Any local FCC office can do whatever they want, so long as they get local politician sign off. I hate living here.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

That's why I use other people's call signs.

[@daviddoucet2220]

Me too.

[@jeremycole3008]

that made me giggle

[@thetonytolbert]

As a licensed amateur radio and GMRS operator, I can confirm the FCC does communicate via email. I was contacted directly by: “Laura L. Smith, Esq. | Special Counsel | Spectrum Enforcement Division | Enforcement Bureau | Federal Communications Commission | 1270 Fairfield Road, Gettysburg, PA 17325” in February of 2021 regarding a frivolous claim of interference. After a very thorough explanation from me, her response back to me was “I consider this matter closed”. Anyone who doesn’t believe they will contact you like this, just FA&FO.

[@JDHood]

I've never heard of the FCC "emailing" a notice or warning -- I've only heard of snail-mail via USPS on official FCC letterhead. I makes me wonder if someone may be pranking/trolling/scamming the operators of that GMRS system.

[@OrderofthePipe]

Reading between the lines tells us that 1. this is a phishing scam, or 2. someone heard something they didn't like over this network (Likely something contrary to the current political narrative.) and reported it to the FCC, who like most other 3-letter agencies are doing right now, is absolutely "not creating a watch list" extra-judiciously and off the books.

[@TheNotaRubicon]

You might want to watch the followup video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXjKon6Er86nmdU

[@mgabel]

I was on that network here in Rochester, NY.. And it is DOWN!!!

[@gregorybarth930]

Without a repeater all we have is an expensive walkie talkie. Without linked repeaters we have a community rag chew that we could have put on the local Next Door app. I'm suspecting a mad ham complained to the FCC in an effort to shut down the GMRS in an effort to get more people to get a ham license...

[@SubPablum]

A request is just that, something that can be ignored.

[@Kingsman4101]

They really cant be that , I digress. So no one verified it was an offical request? They just panicked and yanked the plug? I bet the next email states they can rectify this by buying 5,000$ worth of amazon gift cards.

[@thebugg333]

A sad ham was involved and felt left out..otherwise no one else would care. That being said, I am keeping my small repeater up and linked using a no phone internet connection (within the rules) as long as I can hear on CB channel 6 "back to the bench" for hours every day.

[@carlleon1604]

If it were me... First off I would make sure my repeater/network was in compliance with the FCC rules. If I found anything that was not, I would correct that. Then I would take some effort to verify the validity of the email, and if it in fact came from the FCC (at least a possibility), I would politely reply indicating I have checked my repeater/system, it is compliant with FCC rules, and inquire if anything further is required. I would not supply any list of system users - as others have noted I'm not certain there is any requirement for me to maintain such a list. If there is, then I would require a properly authorized and documented request before providing whatever (if any) information was available. But don't just tell them to stuff it, as (if it is a legitimate email) that has the potential to turn out ugly for you. If they are requesting a membership list for some type of legitimate business entity (non profit repeater group for example), then you need to need to get a lawyer who knows what the requirements are, and how to properly comply with them. Proceed smartly (intelligently), not emotionally.

[@DeltaSierra181]

Now that Chevron has been shot down by the Supremes I wonder how this will playout. The FCC cannot make up the rules as they go anymore. I can see GMRS becoming the new citizen band radio. Remember, they use to have CB licenses in the past, I feel this will be the same thing eventually.

[@senrabnad]

Funny to think I found this channel listening to my Boefeng UV5 here in San Bernardino.

[@cinderoftheland1496]

I was impacted by this shutdown! Not happy here!😩. Just one more reason to leave NYS!

[@joerghallbauer6595]

What's the state got to do with it? The FCC is a FEDERAL agency.

[@1timput]

Me too the covert 725 was also shut down father's day location around bristal ny

[@texasyojimbo]

It's a known fact that if the FCC asks you a question, it's a violation of HIPPA, the Magna Carta, and the Geneva Conventions.

[@texasyojimbo]

That's a joke btw, I assume FCC is free to request anything from anybody (just not demand/require it). Also good point that the usual FCC practice would be to send a paper letter, not an e-mail.

[@thorlocks7818]

subbed, I'd like to hear more about this. as it is very scary.

[@jasoncravens1124]

Turn it back on. They can open a case, or they can get bent. Simple as that.

[@LarryAllenTonar]

A Kinder, Gentler FCC? After looking over the GRMS rules, interconnected GMRS repeaters ARE a non-local No-No (unlike Amateur (Ham) Radio Service). It would have been considerate if the legal "repeater(s) owner(s)" had left them up while turning off the illegal inter-repeater links. Perhaps the Kinder, Gentler FCC wanted to remind the inconvenienced GMRS licensees via email to read the rules of their license before taking official legal actions that may end with $$ 5+ figure fines (or worse)? I would think that asking the repeater(s) owner(s) to pass on such a message would have been sufficient without requesting logged or taped user's callsigns.

[@thilir]

My knee jerk reaction is that it was a phishing attempt.

[@dwayne7356]

The FCC may not currently be using emails but the US court system does use emails or more accurately, electronic filings. At issue is that there was nothing listed on the FCC site.

[@bobinmontana777]

Perhaps a “sad-ham” spoofed a letter from the “FCC’s” because he was sad.

[@jelm9304]

Sound fishy! I would investigate further!

[@DaddyyCrab]

Coming from ppl who are treasonous.

[@gregseyler6460]

Depends how far north in western ny and what repeater channel. There is a line somewhere near there you can’t use certain frequencies.

[@TheNotaRubicon]

according to the letter, that has nothing to do with it, as was very clearly explained in the video.

[@dylanschulz2404]

Has to be someone trolling them. I can't believe that the FCC would send an email like that. If they did, as you said, not legal. I would ignore it until they were ready to do some good old fashioned enforcing. I mean, look at some of these CB guys that were "busted" by the FCC. Running thousands of watts, cursing, threatening, and interfering always pretty much got away with it. Fines were proposed and then never paid.

[@0101-s7v]

FCC: Please provide call signs. Answer: Please provide a search warrant. When/if they do, the next answer should be, "I haven't a clue, it public access and anonymous. "

[@stevevarholy2011]

By getting the privilge of a license, as others have stated, you consent to Commission searches. A broadcast station just got dinged for $25,000 for not letting enforcement personnel in, among other things.

[@minigpracing3068]

I wonder if the FCC would respond to an email asking for more details about the use or misuse that got them in trouble. That second violation is probably key here, and this is probably what lead to the initial investigation, which uncovered the wireline interconnect. The problem they had is that the FCC office is in Buffalo NY, or not very far to travel.

[@bulldogbrower6732]

This is a hoax, this is a sad ham jealous of the GMRS network, so he’s trying to scare them into submission. They even want the information for the other persons on the system so that they can harass them. Ignore it.

[@KNIGHTJUMPS]

Cannot transmit a deceptive message on gmrs? What a joke.

[@randykitchleburger2780]

You must refrain. LOL

[@mikevandebunt811]

A request does not violate the 4th amendment. If it was a "demand" with an associated threat, that would be a violation. As an example, the police can ask to see what's in the trunk if your car during a traffic stop, but you are allowed to say no unless they have a warrant.

[@SteelWolf13]

Hope you apologized to the first guy you called a liar. And just call him confused and uninformed?

[@TheGhungFu]

Some people don't see the point in behaving like people.

[@BuckMeister.]

Repeaters working ok in Missouri.

[@vicrod74]

Hmmm. Email?? Nahhh real FCC would be in your face at 6 AM in the morning bro, they don't play. 😂😂😂

[@waexplorer]

No knock warrants and sh*t... 15 cars, 25 agents blocking your ring etc...

[@kd8afy]

The FCC would only send an official letter via snail mail ...I suspect this email was not from the FCC

[@stevenw4334]

Every time I you say lettuce I want a salad 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ww3659]

OR answer the email: “While we appreciate your communication, in this age of fraud and phishing attempts, we’ll need you to validate your identity with a certified letter, contact information for your supervisor as well as who they report to, and contact information for your legal department.”

[@skysurfer5cva]

And, ask for the FCC agents' SSNs. 🙂

[@spaceflight1019]

It's all fun and games until the guys who look like they stepped out of the Matrix knock on the door.

[@thumbs1964Hereiswisdom]

Sounds like fancy fishing BULLSHITE! I can send a email with a fancy FCC letter head too. It’s probably a sad ham behind this fake ass letter. THERE IS NO CERTIFIED LETTER . Psyop is used by sad ham or red dot Indian scammers. 😂😂😂 IGNORE AND REPORT SPAM!! Don’t be a foolish chicken shit dumb ass!!

[@Dusther210]

This has actually worked for me in the past. I actually got a phone call from a guy saying he was from the FBI conducting an investigation. I asked for his info and office location. I then verified the info he provided after getting off the phone and called the office main line which I got from a separate source. Turns out it was legit 😅 All this to say he totally understood and it wasn’t a big deal

[@billwallace7713]

the fcc does not need any certified letter,they don,t care,what happens is they send a couple people to your house and request to inspect your station,if you decline,the shit storm happens,the fcc laws PERMIT THEM TO INSPECT YOUR STATION(radios) in your house with NO WARRENT,look at the fcc websight for judjments,

[@sfrahm6305]

Hmm, My answer would go something like this... "We are sorry to inform you that we have absolutely no idea who was using our freely available public service. We are not aware of any such legal requirements to inventory our users. Perhaps NSA will be able to provide you with further information."

[@randlecarr3257]

Exactamundo.

[@RogerMorris-gk1zl]

@@randlecarr3257 learn english or leave the country.

[@JamesBurdick]

I think I was in that boating accident and almost got my shoes wet.

[@robinloucks1351]

“requested”. I can request that you give me the keys to your car. Since it is a request you can tell me to go pound dirt.

[@TheRealRenn]

Like the gayTF making a ‘rule’ about FRTs, bump stocks, pistol braces, solvent traps….requesting compliance…or else.

[@texasyojimbo]

Law enforcement is generally allowed to request things. If you consent, you waive the requirement for a warrant.

[@CaptKermit814]

I'm sorry, it appears as though we lost the list of call signs in a tragic boating accident.

[@craigdavidson2977]

Damn.... Wish I had thought to say that first. Well played, @CaptKermit814

[@mikeingeorgia1]

I don’t guess you can be the Captain anymore without a boat 😂

[@seandrake7534]

He said all documents were lost in a boatingb accident he didn't say it was his boat or all of his boats😂😂😂😂😂​@@mikeingeorgia1

[@johnhays8708]

The dog ate them!😂

[@janfranceschi8458]

😂😂😂

[@GF_Burke]

I don't have a license, I'm good.

[@kidvision564]

😂

[@rodneydortch9060]

You mean to tell me that you have to have a license

[@PROUSCONSTITUTION]

😂😂😂 To quote a famous line.."We don't need no stinking badges (license)!"

[@cptcosmo]

I don;t follow their laws anymore. They certainly don't follow the laws, why should we? LOL

[@CITYPREPPER016]

Not that hard to figure out "THEY don't want people to communicate with each other when they do their False Flag.

[@brianclassen5221]

We have seen the effects of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. We won't be fooled again.✌

[@GunsandGuava]

Bingo

[@ravenbarsrepairs5594]

As there is no requirement to track the users of a repeater, the requested data doesn't exist. Tell them that, and nothing more.

[@gabrielsierra6890]

They basically asked the callsigns of all the club members, since the repeater network was theirs, they are al assumed to be users.

[@LatyQuinones]

Its bigger than just the club. The entire area (585) Has gone virtually silent with only one working repeater that has been axed, in terms of coverage. Very strange! Another repeater, run by a very solid guy and veteran was shut down without fair warning. There’s a shit ton more to this story. Proud member of said club.

[@1timput]

I have used two of the on shut down father's day at 4pm

[@duanekc]

So, then, you can give *details* of the "shit ton more to this story"?

[@angieandretti]

Wow, I really wanna hear the "more" to this story!

[@jefffoster3557]

I would only say this......when you have a renegade legal system in NY that can convict someone like Trump on silly charges, is anyone really surprised what else goes on in that state right now?

[@randlecarr3257]

Please do inform us of the additional info. We need to clarify why your club would be such pussies and shut down what apparently is a very cool system used by hundreds.

[@richy1014]

Whoever wrote that email is likely laughing themselves into a heart attack right now.

[@RogerMorris-gk1zl]

i hope so.

[@timcarroll6795]

Not as much as the person who received it's lawyer...

[@jasoncravens1124]

What an odd thing to scam. Why? There would be actual motive for that, it's not some prank.

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

The email was real. Also someone is reporting the GMRS Live Roadkill network is not working anymore

[@curtisyerger]

I would be highly suspect of any "enforcement" through email.

[@JasonDewitt-pl7rj]

yeah this seems suspect

[@NukaVaultReadiness]

I wonder if it was resolved through giftcards from the local CVS or Target.

[@LatitudeSky]

Anything the federal government wants to tell you will be via dead tree mail.

[@robmugs]

I got one for this for my drone usage. Ignoring it only got me a certified mail

[@yqtszhj]

Wonder if the email came from Nigeria where all of those emails come from saying you just inherited a billion dollars.

[@ajf5150]

I feel extremely reassured and well-protected about the fact that we have over 30 trillion dollars in debt and our tax dollars are being put to such good use as paying the salary of the person tasked with sending out this email.

[@bulldogbrower6732]

This is a hoax, this is a sad ham jealous of the GMRS network, so he’s trying to scare them into submission. They even want the information for the other persons on the system so that they can harass them. Ignore it.

[@NebulaHatesWatchdog]

Don’t worry! The FCC is self funded! None of this stupid email was paid for by your tax dollars.

[@RogerMorris-gk1zl]

i hope so.

[@DickShooter]

I thought the FCC wasn't tax funded.

[@Lee784447]

We as a nation have way to many bureaucrats in DC and in each state doing stupid things without congress making it law. We all must not vote in stupid people.

[@dukeone224]

In my 45 years of dealing with the FCC and working in radio communications I have never seen the FCC send any type of violation notice by email. They do this by letter or by an actual knock on the door.

[@markcheatwood5106]

Correct The FCC does not send emails. Everything is done by letter via USPS !

[@DDGVET4]

I would advise researching to see if the FCC has been issued weapons and ammo like the IRS. Then worry about them not knocking on the door just like the ATF did in Arkansas.

[@aguywiththreefirstnames1850]

@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES im on this system before the "lock out"... ive never heard police coms broadcasted

[@richie_vee]

@@markcheatwood5106 Really? I just received my FCC License renewal via Email, even a link to print out the "official copy" of my FCC license.

[@coreybabcock2023]

​I need a radio like that

[@laffylyle]

Wouldn't the FCC send a letter by US mail?

[@CyborgAlienBariaur]

Not necessarily since they're also not sending the call signs out via mail anymore and so many people not giving correct mailing addresses and they got the repeaters owner by their call signs so it's easy to get them by their email address which they definitely want to keep up.

[@bluflaam777LSA]

or in person if it were serious. They may even bring local law enforcement with warrants for backup. Again, if it were that serious. But yes, mail is the usual. (I would presume) Mail is relatively cheap and 99.9999% of the time is enough for compliance.

[@davem5276]

Bingo. Either the FCC agent didn't know the rules, or it wasn't from the FCC. Federal agencies are ONLY allowed to send notices like this either in person, or through the USPS. This is both so that people know when they're being scammed, and to establish an evidentiary paper trail.

[@williamjones4483]

@@CyborgAlienBariaur The FCC stopped issuing paper license because of the cost of paper and printing. They figured to let the licensee bear the cost of printing out a hard copy. However, the FCC is not going to send an email of a notice of violation. They will send it through U.S. mail. I am both a licensed Amateur Radio operator and I hold a GMRS license. If I need copies I jusy log into my FCC account and download the PDF, then print it. This thing has "HOAX" written all over it.

[@Joseph-u3t2n]

I just got my GMRS call sign in the us mail a month ago. So ya they still use the Mail system.

[@dasfoot]

They'll never catch me. I don't have a license.

[@hithere7382]

They could if you were on the right list. It's really easy with a few of those kraken sdrs in cars.

[@Al-kw5ii]

@@hithere7382 will those kraken cars go where i take my Isarubicon? If not im good.

[@RogerMorris-gk1zl]

@@hithere7382 i'm on many lists, pick one.

[@aaronmoore3050]

​@@hithere7382 kraken is ineffective against a mobile fox (imo)

[@TheNotaRubicon]

@aaronmorre3050 your opinion is 100% incorrect. I used my Kraken to track someone jamming our repeater while driving around town - I caught him in just an hour or two.

[@EZPromoVideos]

How do the know it ws the FCC? Is it the official email address or is it a Spoofed email? I can't count the number of times I get fake emails. Fake text messages claiming they are someone they are not. My first thought is to simply contact the FCC and ask if this is legitimate. If it is not then the person pretending they are in much more trouble than you all are!! Posing as a government official is a much bigger deal than the issues listed. My initial thought is someone wanted to shut it down as they weren't happy with somthing and saw this as a way to get back. IMHO

[@rushtonline1674]

Not surprised that something isn’t fully documented by the feds.

[@johncherish7610]

As a Licensed HRS Operator General class the FCC is quite good at documenting things and making it available on their official website. The fact it isn't documentos has the odor of the email being fake. I have never known them to send emails on violations only letters. I have never gotten any but I know of others who have. I Also have known of CB'ers running illegal linear amps that have gotten a knock on the door by an agent from the FCC and handed in person a citation of violation. You can't hide their tracking equipment is state of the art these days much better than the simple direction finding loops they used to use, they will find you if they choose to

[@kg4gav]

Let me frantically type: I don't know that they needed to shut down the entire repeater, just the linking part. As for the REQUEST for call signs, it was just that, a request. They can request anything they want. I would decline to produce a list unless there is a court order. One could theoretically deny the existence of such a list, but would also be cautious about destroying evidence or lying about not having a membership list...that would probably be more contemptuous than the actual linked system. And it is not lost on me that if the club sent out an email to members...there is clearly a list of members. That said, I am a member of several clubs that I have never transmitted on their system. There have been 'some people' that have said and speculated that an internet linked GMRS repeater system is a no-no, and I guess maybe now we know-know? It will be interesting to see what becomes of this. I am also curious as to what other actions have been handled by an informal email and never made it to the formal complaint stage. Kinds like when the cop stops you to give a warning. It ends at that unless you get mouthy and defensive, then they write you a ticket and start measuring tire tread and mudflap length.

[@hifiandrew]

I would just not respond other than referring them to my attorney. DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE.

[@adrianmizen5070]

A "request" attached to threats of "further enforcement actions" is not just a request.

[@mikeingeorgia1]

A d!ckhead at the DOT stopped my Dad one time because one of the trailer lights was out. My Dad flicked it with his finger and it came back on. Officer Head wasn’t happy about that, so he had him pull forward very slowly so he could check the tread depth around the entire circumference of ALL the tires lol

[@georgeedwards5386]

“Some operators “ are playing a game with this club. They would send a letter or visit the site (rare) but not a email

[@craigdavidson2977]

It could be that the FCC is finally stepping into the current century and sending out informal emails to legitimate honest GMRS users who may be in violation of the rules just by misunderstanding. It would save a lot of time and cost over a formal Notice of Apparent Liability.

[@grigorirasputin5020]

That is what I am thinking. If there are multiple linked repeaters in that network, some poor soul, sick to death of hearing the same conversation in progress on most or all of the eight repeater pairs, may have done this just to enjoy some blessed relief and silence from the linked idiocy.

[@RunSkiRide]

A Nigerian prince emailed me, assuring protection of all parties illegally using my personal baofeng uv 5, if i sent him 3 amazon gift cards totaling just $300 bucks. So far, it seems to have worked! Nobody has gone to jail! Is that a tax deduction???

[@davidkimball9942]

Wondering what email address actually sent the message. A trace back maybe informative

[@paulhause9040]

The "big deal" is that a GMRS repeater cannot have a phone patch connection, but CAN BE linked together for voice traffic. That FCC letter is largely harassment, and should be refuted by using 95.349 which is the "phone patch" rule, and also 95.1745 which states that GMRS repeaters can be connected for "remote control". That agent, no other knowledge withstanding, is FOS !!!

[@johncherish7610]

That email is a fake the FCC doesn't send courtesy emails, they send the real letter of violation to the offending stations, and list them on their website

[@Malikyte13]

Yeah but in typical goobermint fashion the FCC just changed the wording on the website. There's no good reason why repeaters can't be linked via internet since it's not interfering with anything (I imagine even at peak usage times it can't be using THAT much bandwidth for simple voice transmissions). It all boils down to "Stop having fun" and "because we say so." The FCC can go suck it.

[@josesnyder840]

Seems like a sad ham with good writing skills sent a mean email to those poor souls (bless their hearts) up in New York and they got scared. This type of communication is very unprofessional if it really was the FCC

[@choppermike3329]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@Commodium]

Self appointed radio policeman hating on GMRS because when he got his license in 1863 he had to learn morse ... .- -.. .... .- -- -... .- ... - .- .-. -..

[@grigorirasputin5020]

​@Commodium Spacing issues caused by the commenting algorithm, make your Morse message vague.

[@MandrakeDCR]

@@Commodium Sadham was definitely a Bastard ;)

[@dphillips4351]

The sad ham could be in big trouble if he falsely represented the FCC😂

[@grizsgarage]

Sounds like a sad ham impersonation of the fcc.

[@randlecarr3257]

Impersonating a Fed. Should get you zero jail time (See Jan 6)

[@SteveSmestad-t2o]

Government agencies threaten enforcement with emails now? This sounds like the biggest load of crap since my Nigerian uncle died in a plane crash and left me his fortune.

[@Reverend.John_Ignatowski]

We must be related, my Nigerian uncle died also, I wish I had the $$$ needed to transfer the funds to my account, but at the time I was broke. Nice hearing from you cousin.

[@gzuzsavz]

i have a couple of 8 watt Baofengs (BF-F8HP)..i have not gone on repeaters..i just fig'd about the time we'd truly need them..they'd be down, anyway & anyone i would have been networking with would be unreachable prior to such event we'd want to warn each other about. anyways..we are seeing a war vs our food, our grid, our transportation and now our comms. not to mensh the open border/invasion and draining of the US Treasury. & censorship. (& Etc) all that to say.. #stockup

[@EJ42955]

Oh, my. An email from the FCC? PLEASE! Someone got pissed off and sent an email, claiming to be the FCC. Like, no one has ever received an email from someone claiming to be a legitimate entity. This is all nonsense. Until the repeater operators receive an official letter, through the USPS, I wouldn't turn off a darn thing.

[@LatitudeSky]

Some know-it-all panicked and didn't vet the email and pulled the plug. Whoever that person is needs to stop running the system and let someone else do it. They probably have tons of viruses on their computer and Microsoft Support calling them every day asking for more gift cards.

[@spaceflight1019]

You hold the cursor over the email address and the complete address will display. If it says "@fcc.gov.ru", delete it and carry on.

[@z352kdaf8324]

@@LatitudeSky He knows that guy from the fcc at his day job. How can that not be legit?

[@wrwp511robbie]

Is this about Alliance System in New York??

[@protogenxl]

According to their front page it looks like it

[@fourtyfivefudd]

Alliance 575 yes

[@UPSmech5999]

Yes the 575.

[@joeschnell5695]

Isn’t Alliance related to Bluecomm?

[@huf67]

I think if we could have had just one more season of ALF then we wouldn't be having problems like this in the world.

[@321CatboxWA]

Alf was about the lamest .lol

[@LilyRoseMyrtleAndMarigold08]

Best comment on this entire thread!! Thank YOU!!!

[@seanlee2650]

FJB and the 3 letter agencies

[@chadmorris180]

I feel the same.

[@RKingis]

Fudge just burns?

[@jameshisself9324]

@@RKingis I think it's some kind of gay code, heard that from Matt Gaetz.

[@adamreynolds8270]

​@@jameshisself9324Most definitely!

[@EmoryL]

🙄

[@zorkbang1]

As I understand the FCC guidelines a LOI (letter of inquiry) would be MAILED as a persons first notice of an alleged infraction. Nowhere does it mention e-mail. And does this club own ALL the "interconnected" repeaters or are they individual repeaters owned by others included in their "network" as a courtesy to the community?

[@aaronmoore3050]

What judge cares to keep lawful the government?

[@thedoobie1]

We need to see the email and we need the FCC agent's name.

[@aMaff]

Agent I. C. Weiner.

[@grigorirasputin5020]

​@@aMaff Is that Anthony's nephew? 😆

[@richeastmain4031]

How does an email have a verbal warning?

[@magooracing]

Must have been an email from a different FCC, the Fried Chicken Commission

[@MaconMedia]

Sounds like they got punked by a troll.

[@jvsesq]

It is against the rules to link Gmrs repeaters. It is neither a 1st or 4th amendment violation

[@craigdavidson2977]

You appear to be correct

[@DarkShadowCustoms]

With all the scams going around I would have just ignored that e-mail and kept the system online until receiving an official letter from the FCC.

[@craigdavidson2977]

An official letter might come with a fine/NAL for breaking the FCC rules. If I thought the email was a scam then I might reply and ask to talk by telephone to verify just who the FCC agent is.

[@mattthurman1]

Operation of a GMRS station with a telephone connection is prohibited, as in § 95.349. GMRS repeater, base and fixed stations, however, may be connected to the public switched network or other networks for the sole purpose of operation by remote control pursuant to § 95.1745.

[@or1equals1]

A quick but polite fuck you no should be sent back in response to the email via a lawyer.

[@craigdavidson2977]

Is hobby radio really worth that kind of trouble and expense?

[@bourbonbrigade]

@@craigdavidson2977yes

[@lonewolftech]

@@craigdavidson2977yes. It’s always worth the trouble when your freedoms are at stake

[@craigdavidson2977]

@@lonewolftech which freedom would that be?

[@AcmePhoto]

Why bother.....what letter?... Use the 5th, say and do nothing. #file13

[@W9CR]

post the emails, with complete sources. The FCC uses DKIM and signs all outbound emails; it's trivial to see if the signature is valid.

[@angieandretti]

When you received this email from the club, did they give any hint as to how they'd responded to the "unofficial warrantless request" for everyone's callsigns?

[@IniguezFamily]

The FCC does not require the owner of repeaters to track and log the call signs of the people that use it so why would they expect to be able to get such a list?

[@RKingis]

Reeks of sah ham.

[@DJNitreBlue]

Email is not official communication, unless you are a nigerian prince. Whoever received it should add it to his junk folder & wait for a certified letter to show up in the mail, then take that letter to an attorney. This sounds like a phishing scam.

[@Relayer1974]

I don't see a problem with anything the FCC did. I personally avoid networked GMRS systems because they violate Part 95, but I never cared if anyone else used them. That said, those users took a risk and faced the consequences of it. This isn't a 4A issue at all.

[@KenLee-e5y]

This is why I keep a bucket of sand at the enterances to my properties. If interaction from an agent of the govt seeks information without the hastle of obtaining a warrant, I point to the bucket and tell them to pound sand. So far, so good. Im out three buckets and 28 lbs of sand

[@kennethgriffin-wo2yl]

😂

[@Stioall]

I've never known the Feds to send emails unless they want bitcoin sent to a Nigerian prince.

[@NemoOhd20]

FCCs drinking coffee at desk, thinks I bet the easiest way to handle this complaint is to send an email because it isn't important enough for me to do any more work. Send. Now I can go back to sipping coffee and doing important FCCs work. My guess is they probably have a complaint about "Joe" or "Squirrel" transmitting music or profanity or something and they also want to send one more email telling Joe Squirrel to knock it off. Then sip coffee and do important FCCs work.

[@autoadjuster]

If true I do not like that they asked for call signs, they would need a warrant to obtain them. However I am in NY and there are a few connected repeater systems. They have taken over every frequency, it is a pain in the butt and annoying. A lot of users on hand helds have issues getting over the other repeaters.

[@LatitudeSky]

They don't need a warrant. Anyone who operates any kind of radio repeater or system is responsible for the users of that system, including what they do or say and making note of their call signs, if applicable. There is no privacy involved. The licenses are issued to people and those people have their name and address on the license applications. Anyone listening with a pad and paper could write it all down or record the radio traffic. There's nothing in any of this that requires a warrant to obtain.

[@autoadjuster]

@@LatitudeSky they need a warrant when they are requesting info from a third party.

[@borrago]

I guarantee that your day is not "very interesting and exciting." The part of your day that you spend time on writing, recording, editing and publishing is only barely interesting, and poorly done. I have no doubt the rest of your day is equally mediocre.

[@mrsmith324]

I believe it's a sad ham pretending to be the FCC.

[@RickCarman-xi8yi]

Well, let’s see, every time I key out, I give my call sign…. And every 15 minutes thereafter. Most of us filled out that application with our address… SO, they ALREADY have our info…. My guess would be some sort of a tribal territory dispute… OR somehow it has taken a political stance of left or right.

[@bgreene65g]

¿Why not just make the repeater a standalone repeater? No Internet or interconnect. that way the community still has communications. Second I would not act on an email, period. I need a formal letter.

[@scarlettprepper8080]

Thanks Randy please keep us informed.

[@907-q7u]

Probably some DEI new hire who doesn't know the rules and sent the e-mail instead of a written letter because they're lazy to learn protocol.

[@alanklasek7195]

Although the fcc keeps a current email address on file for every frn, I have my doubts that they actually used email for making contact for enforcement. My email is on file with the FSA and NRCS (and fcc of course) and have never received an email from either agency. Communication is always through the USPS.

[@grigorirasputin5020]

Yeah, but if they wanted someone to actually receive their message, would they really use USPS? 😂😁🤣

[@lizannecoyle8544]

I have so many USPS emails for a delivery that needs my credit card info so they can send this mystery package. ( they never send emails)

[@jasoncthomas]

I watched this FCC meeting. It is pretty clear that it is against the rules to communicate using a GMRS repeater or radio connected to the internet. It seems that it is legal to "remotely control" a repeater over the internet. Meaning turning it off and on, etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmepfXqilMpopNksi=1lgSQNsOBGr1F-0R&t=4364

[@DeltaSierra181]

Someone is making a play to control all communications in this country!

[@kennethgriffin-wo2yl]

Soros!

[@sbrownproductions]

I'd love to see the email headers.... it feels fake to me.

[@HowToHam_Tom]

Did the person who received this email bother to check the authenticity of the sender? I bet it is NOT actually an FCC action. Simply click the sender’s email and/or view the message header. If it doesn’t end in .gov, y’all been punk’d. Allegedly.

[@warmfreeze]

sounds exactly like the issue i have with flying drones.. the BIGGEST Karens in the drone pilot world are OTHER drone pilots. GMRS is likely EXACTLY the same..

[@daviddoucet2220]

I think it’s funny y’all call yourselves pilots. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@warmfreeze]

I actually AM a pilot, also drone pilots follow the same FAA guidelines and CFRs/IFRs as any pilot.

[@daviddoucet2220]

@@warmfreeze 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

[@jyo8914]

Yeah, right...Ummm...Here's my callsign-FJBMF

[@ronjohnson4619]

Thanks!

[@TheNotaRubicon]

Thank YOU!

[@14DFASniper]

Would that same rule be applicable to using GMRS with Zello? Seems it would.

[@craigdavidson2977]

I would believe so.

[@biggsmpbiggs4045]

I have the same question

[@RKingis]

I'm 10000% certain, they are referring to the POTS, Plain Old Phone System, and using a autopatch & dialing into a autopatch .