Labradar settings that work at challenging ranges

[@GunWodan]

Thanks so much for sharing! I'm also shooting a lot from a closed range with lots of reflection. Using an external trigger - recoil based - greatly improved my measurements. Also setting the unit to LOW POWER can help with obstacles in front of the device. The only real benefit of using the NORMAL POWER is the potential to get additional velocity measurements at extended range - unless you're looking for those, LOW POWER might be worth a try. Also such a shame how the company behind LabRadar is neglecting this product. The "latest" firmware is from 2018! There's so many quirks in the controls of this device (long push of the ARM button to get to the results ... wtf!) and bugs in the bluetooth/app. Can't wait for a community firmware project that will finally unleash this amazing device!

[@ironbomb6753]

This unit is beyond the scope of my abilities, for now. Great show of this mystic measuring device. 👍

[@tekanger975]

Thanks a bunch! Used this video as my training and my first range session went great. Huge help and the product itself is rather amazing.

[@johnkennedy6331]

Thanks John, great tips! MK Machining makes a nice bolt-on sight for the Labradar which you can purchase on Amazon.

[@CorwinBos]

Good explanation! I run mine with a 6" offset and put it 6" in front of the muzzle of the firearm. Heavily braked rifles and having the Labradar behind the muzzle will blow it off the bench. :)

[@FClassJohn]

That's a great tip too. I don't use brakes so it's a good reminder for those who do on how to set up for best results.

[@CorwinBos]

@@FClassJohn I blew mine off the bench one time and thats all it took. I bought a cheap tripod right after that which makes setup a piece of cake.

[@julesmartino2214]

Howdy John, Thanks, I just bought a Labradar. I couldn't get it to work well that this evenings 600 shoot. This article has been a GREAT help! JAM

[@charfnz8638]

Just wired up my own recoil trigger and this makes the unit much more usable when using many different rifles i.e. air rifle, .22LR, suppressed centrefire. Plus if your on a crowded range it prevents your neighbour setting it off. My range has a baffle at 25m and when shooting at 50m having the unit on low power definitely makes a difference. Aiming it now seems to be the biggest challenge.

[@Eric-qu3ht]

Thanks for the tip of aiming at a cross angle. At 100 yard and in a relatively open/light structure range, I found that the most sensitive setting for me was how I position the unit in relation to the barrel. I used to position it too close, but at 12 to 16 inch from the barrel , it works very well for me. My main concern was the false triggers from other shooters in doppler mode. I just got the trigger sensor, which should eliminate that issue. Overall, I really like the labradar for good results and having nothing attached to rifle.

[@arronhamilton8091]

Thanks for sharing! I have to order the external trigger for my LabRadar! It is on my list next purchases! No more missed shots during load development!

[@mikeq7096]

Got my Labrador today and promptly made all of the settings mentioned. Also set up the app and bluetooth seems to be working ok.

[@josemato6351]

Thanks for the great information. Especially for how to aim the unit. Will try it out.

[@homerleong9081]

Aloha John, Great information and tips. I found that once i started using the inertia trigger, i have not missed a shot! Hope all is well and back to normal at home.....

[@azureoval]

I guess I got lucky because mine has worked great from day one. Today I forgot my base when I went to the range. I just wedged it between a ammo can and a sand bag and it worked as it should. Bluetooth even works well after I did the Firmware upgrade that has been out for awhile.

[@jacoklopper4772]

Thank you for Sharing Sir

[@petebikos6005]

I have found that while at indooor ranges using the low power gets better tracking results and almost eliminates loss projectile tracks. The inertia trigger is a must and should be standard equipment with the unit.

[@FClassJohn]

Great tip, thank you.

[@johanbotes4147]

Thank John have seen some questions about the lab radar on our reloading groups will share it I’m sure someone is going to be helped

[@patruddiman4228]

I recently purchased a labradar I've watched all your videos on how to set it up and using the sensor on the stock. I have that option turned on in the menu. I was out at our local gun range on Monday and beings I hadn't used it yet I thought I would try it out. I have Browning long range hunter model with the rubber coated stock at least that is what it feels like. I got it all set up put the sensor on the stock turned it made sure it was ready to readout fired a shot and nothing happened. I immediately switched to my magneto speed beings I was doing a load development. I purchased the same sensor you use but I don't know why it didn't work. I could switch to the dappled mode beings the bench I was shooting off of was one of the shorter ones and wouldn't have had good barrel alignment according to the instructions beings I didn't bring my other tripod. When I got home I tested the sensor and it would give the false reading so I know it worked. Do you have any suggestions.

[@FClassJohn]

It's always hard to say without being there of course but typically aiming the Labrador or changing the aiming as you test until it reads can help. You can also make sure that the middle height of the Labrador is even with the barrel. That can help as well. Also make sure that other people aren't around on the same channel as you.

[@patruddiman4228]

@@FClassJohn I was the only there with a labradar. I didn't try it on any other gun. The rest of the guns had a actual synthetic stock. With limited supply of products I don't usually load barrel fowling bullets.

[@patruddiman4228]

Should I move the sensor closer to the action maybe?

[@bloke3006]

Thanks John! I was interested in your mounting system, looks very neat and functional?

[@FClassJohn]

It’s great. Here’s where to buy it arkcomachine.com/shop/ols/products/quad-base-use-for-lab-radar

[@norcal5040]

1.1.5 is actually A, if you download the file it will have A and B inside. 1.1.5 was the last FW ver. A to not work with bluetooth I believe.

[@UWMitch]

Thank you for another great video. I have found if I'm on a lane/bench adjacent to one of the concrete risers for the baffles at the range I have problems. But CJ shot on the same position and didnt have any issues so I will try aiming more so I'm crossing like you recommend and see if that clears things up. The data has been eye opening.

[@FClassJohn]

Awesome. Hopefully it helps. Don't be afraid to try the Low power setting as others has said below as a possible help as well.

[@jasonrad9332]

Any reasoning behind 11 yard intervals? Second time I’ve seen the same info.

[@FClassJohn]

Not really. Just let you adjust the intervals if you want to do stuff like calculate ballistic coefficient. I never use any of that.

[@ronnydowdy7432]

Good show

[@FClassJohn]

Thank you.

[@FullSendPrecision]

Now can you fix the bluetooth issues they are plagued with?

[@tregandrews8445]

I just got one. Bluetooth won't connect...

[@FClassJohn]

I wish I could. I’ve learned to work with it and have been happy so far despite the annoyances. That being said, I’d buy a competitors unit in a heartbeat to test if/when there is one. Caldwell has one coming this year and I’m itching to get my hands on it.

[@oddursigurdsson3046]

Great info and thx for sharing :)

[@FClassJohn]

Glad you like it. Thank you.

[@zoidelux]

Hey John, where can I buy the foldable stand mount you have on the bottom?

[@zoidelux]

Never mind i found it!!! Arkco!!!!!

[@arleyrisner204]

I purchased mine back in Jan. I'm a PRS and distance guy so guess that makes me a data geek for my loading. Haven't used the unit yet due to it recording other shooters. Was told to turn down trigger sensitivity. What's your advise??

[@FClassJohn]

I would highly recommend using a kinetic trigger to isolate your shots. Here's a video I did on it. Helps solve a lot of problems for a lot of people. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIe3eYl8f7lladU

[@chazt4863]

John, have you heard any news about a "New" Lab Radar coming to the market in the near future? Thanks

[@FClassJohn]

No. Honestly they are not a company that seems to really do a lot of marketing or advanced notice of anything And they are pretty tough to get a hold of even for customer service issues. I’m guessing if they ever do release a new version somebody will hear about it but I’ve heard nothing so far.

[@chazt4863]

@@FClassJohn Thanks very much for your quick follow-up...I tried to contact them as well and found it very difficult to get any assistance :(

[@stevewhite4392]

This is why I use a Magnetospeed...just strap it on and it works.

[@FClassJohn]

Yeah I really like them too but for what I do the Labrador makes more sense. That being said I'll jump on whatever the next radar chrono is that comes out because I'm sure it'll address the current shortcomings.

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

@@FClassJohn I saw Caldwell is supposed to come out with one. Prob be cheaper but doubt it’ll be better. Who knows tho.

[@FClassJohn]

@@taylorbokshowan5713 I'm actually looking forward to it and testing it out when it's available.

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

@@FClassJohn I look forward to seeing your review.

[@br4713]

Hi Steve, that's why I have also chosen the magnetospeed. I always works and is said to be as accurate as the labradar. For me the most important thing is to be able to measure accurately my velocities and to not depend on the conditions.

[@justinvandee2008]

What battery source are you using? 2.1amp?

[@FClassJohn]

I'm using an older flat battery pack that have 1a and 2.1a and I use both without a problem.

[@jdrollason]

Is that a custom mount?

[@FClassJohn]

It’s made by Matt at Arkcomachine. They’re amazing arkcomachine.com/shop/ols/products/quad-base-use-for-lab-radar

[@scottspagnolo-hye4628]

Did you make the stand yourself. I hate the labradar tripod.

[@FClassJohn]

It’s made by Matt at Arkcomachine. They’re amazing arkcomachine.com/shop

[@scottspagnolo-hye4628]

@@FClassJohn thanks

[@scottspagnolo-hye4628]

@@FClassJohn and ordered!