The front tire is reversible. As the tire wears as you pointed out, you simply turn the tire around and even out the wear pattern.
@digbywilkinson55658 ай бұрын
I only use Motoz now. DV Front and GPS or Rallz on the back depending on use. I’ve used Anakkee’s, Shinko’s, TKC80’s, AX41’s, Trailmax, and got tired of looking for the stunning tire. Motoz make great lasting tires considering the DV and Adventure are both 70+ off road tyres. The Trailmax is dodgy in wet weather here in NZ. We have a lot of rain and very twisty roads. Motoz does everything very well on the BMW. KTM’s like them too. I tend to keep the GPS on the back unless I’m going somewhere tough. The GPS is very good on the road, lasts forever, and when aired down to 20psi off road, they hook up very well and the stiff carcass means no pinching.
@holden3083Ай бұрын
What are the gps & adv tyres like in the rain on tarmac please?
@digbywilkinson5565Ай бұрын
Hi. They are fine. The GPS has silicon content unlike the standard tractionator which I think is pure rubber. So, no worries in the rain. The DV is likewise fine in the rain too. In saying that, wet tar snakes are a little unfriendly, though very few tires like those at the best of times. I'm in New Zealand and our roads are twisty and made of chipseal and I’ve never had a problem. Its always good to experiment with air pressure on different bikes because every tire has a sweet spot depending on bike geometry, weight and riding style. Motoz make good tires, but testing and experimenting for your requirements is always worth the effort. Worth remembering too, Motoz tire profiles are compromise in profile, so they are flatter across the tread rather than round, which makes the steering a ‘little” slower, but good off-road. Ride safe.
@pawesuchanek9369Ай бұрын
Isn't 20psi too low? I mean didn't you damage the rim ?
@digbywilkinson5565Ай бұрын
@@pawesuchanek9369generally no. I should clarify I use 25 on the front DV and down to 20 on the rear. However, if it’s very rocky for a long period then I go 25-28 in the rear where most of the damage is likely. The MotoZ adventure rear tires are all incredibly strong. I cut my last Tractionator Adventure in half to see what it was like as it was an early version with some cracking. I need not have worried, the carcass is incredibly rugged. They are impressive adventure tires. The Dual Venture has more playable sidewalls than previous versions which gives it better feedback on the road (still tough though). Hope that helps.
@markhills3922Ай бұрын
@@digbywilkinson5565 excellent summary from someone who goes the extra miles to investigate the tyre after it past its use by date; thank you very much for taking the time to make a completely unbiased and coherent reply; can i ask, what do you see as the major difference between the GPS and the Rallz? cheers from across the ditch.
@longbow072810 ай бұрын
I did about 5000 miles on my DV front and Tractionator Rear and probably could have done 2k more on the front. The front gets better on the street the more it gets worn down. My mileage was 40/60 Dirt/Street.
@MotoBeemer10 ай бұрын
That’s good to know, the front does indeed get better with mileage
@goatman864 ай бұрын
Which rear, adventure? They are called tractionator which in my opinion is retarded
@bradh742 ай бұрын
I don't have a bike but the guys that had a GS said the Dunlop tires lasted over 12k every time they ran them. (one said he got 20k another 16k but..) I also saw a video about Motoz tires and they said you can turn the tire around so you get more even wear and they last longer. Like I said I don't have a bike (I want one) so I don't know how they handle.
@ogoshikimura56217 ай бұрын
From the MotOz page: Tractionator Adventure: 70% Off-Road - 30% Road From the Dunlop Page: 60/40 Adventure tire (Road / Off - Road) - The 80/20 from MotOz is called Rallz and the 50/50 from Dunlop is called Trailmax Raid. However, good mileage for sure, definitely a great choice, but there is also money that should be considered. I prefer the Heidenau K60 Ranger, they are also 70/30 but perform extremely well in the wet and track better off road. Downside, the rear only lasts 3.5-4.5k but is also a lot cheaper.
@MotoBeemer7 ай бұрын
So did the Raid replace the Mission’s? Can’t seem to get any confirmation.
@ogoshikimura56217 ай бұрын
@@MotoBeemer no, it’s a additional tire. Dunlop EU developed it, the Mission is developed by Dunlop USA. They selling them here now, but you won’t get great mileage out of them. In EU they just don’t have those so many rubber eating concrete roads anymore. The Raid is also a bit more performance oriented, they say 40/60 (on-off). But again, are they worth the money in GS sizes?
@MotoBeemer7 ай бұрын
@@ogoshikimura5621 probably not worth it. Good info you got for sure
@outty776 ай бұрын
I use these on my F800, with a tube, and I just recently noticed that MotoZ website added this: NOTE: Tube Tyre Tractionator Adventure are specifically designed for single seat enduro class bikes (typically single cylinder, single seat bikes), where riders want to cover long distance/adventure (don’t use light weight Tube Type on large multi cylinder adventure class bikes). Guess I have to swap to something else.
@MotoBeemer6 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Never knew that was a thing.
@davehartsock91066 ай бұрын
Run a tubeless tire with a tube. Stronger sidewall.
@mudcatstravels975110 ай бұрын
I got almost 3 times the mileage out of my Trailmax. I pulled them off at 14,000 and some change. I rode out and did the MABDR with 9000 miles on them in April and had zero traction issues. I ride a lot of gravel and rock roads, blacktops and highways. I guess the only thing I’ve had any trouble with was slick clay. But I’m not sure anything does well in that especially a 530 lb bike. My WR250r even can be a handful in that at times. Ride safe!
@MotoBeemer10 ай бұрын
I'm not seeing them sold anywhere here lately, might have to go with the Dunlop Raid next.
@birddog68279 ай бұрын
How are they at fast highway speed? 85+? Any strange vibrations? Are they noisy? I enjoy your vids man! Keep it up!!
@MotoBeemer9 ай бұрын
The bars do shake a little when changing lanes at that speed, definitely more noisy than the Dunlops I had before. Thank you!
@birddog68279 ай бұрын
@@MotoBeemer cool deal, I'm down in Houston and am planning a Colorado trip next August sometime, I think I'm going to go with the TM Missions......thinking about doing sections 4-6 of the BDR up there (easier sections) for the first go around. Thank you for the reply.
@jc765410 ай бұрын
i try and find tyres that you don't get flats and punchers. motoz tyres are good at not getting flats. i think you should give the motoz GPS a go on the back especially if you are doing lots of road riding. but 5000 Miles no flats is great. the front is still good for 3000miles more. from a price point they are great also
@MotoBeemer10 ай бұрын
Those might be my next tire, I have thought about it
@trucker-d41617 ай бұрын
Why would you compare these to the missions? The motoz gps is more in its class
@MotoBeemer7 ай бұрын
Only because it’s the last set of tires I’ve owned. Any suggestions for my next set this spring?
@gabrielkopp20368 ай бұрын
To be fare that front tire is the dual venture and can be reversed.. and the dunlop trailmax mission is definitely not even a 50/50 it's more like 80% road
@MotoBeemer8 ай бұрын
Yessir! 👏👏
@gabrielkopp20368 ай бұрын
@@MotoBeemer I'm tossed between the motoz adventure or the new trailmax raid as the price is exactly the same
@MotoBeemer8 ай бұрын
@@gabrielkopp2036 I plan on trying the Raid's out early season. The MOTOZ are a fantastic tire but Dunlop also makes great products. The MOTOZ wore very quickly but were absolutely fantastic in the dirt. Noisy, sure...but big knobs will do that.
@gabrielkopp20368 ай бұрын
@@MotoBeemer that has a lot to do with your bike..I only have a 800 with 85hp so I may get more miles lol
@MotoBeemer8 ай бұрын
@@gabrielkopp2036 very true! I say go for it then. You won’t be disappointed
@holden3083Ай бұрын
What tyres are u running now please?
@MotoBeemerАй бұрын
Dunlop Trailmax Raid
@holden3083Ай бұрын
@@MotoBeemer cheers. Are they good / better than the adventures? How are they on wet roads & in rain please?
@longbow072810 ай бұрын
Also if you want to go harder on dirt... miles will help but man...a new set of wheels with a 21 front will change the game.
@MotoBeemer10 ай бұрын
So I’ve heard, that’s the pro move
@markhills3922Ай бұрын
cool...i've been thinking about this very topic; did you leave the 17 rear or go to 18?
@longbow0728Ай бұрын
@markhills3922 Good Q- the cheap option is just to buy a 21 inch front for it. However a slimmer rear in 18 would give you access to a lot more tire selection.
@markhills3922Ай бұрын
@@longbow0728 so have you done the 21 front conversion on an R1200GS ?
@longbow0728Ай бұрын
@markhills3922 No, but as a former GS owner of 7 years, and now someone who's owned and ridden 21 inch tire bikes, for the last 3 years I can see why my GS front always felt a bit less then awesome offroad. Some of that is skill, as Im much more confident offroad then I used to be. That and the front is known to taco. They are giant bikes even if they hide weight well.
@atvtinker018 ай бұрын
Looks like you have a bunch of left lane couch potatoes in your video. 😂
@MotoBeemer8 ай бұрын
Most definitely!
@AT2021Rocker7 ай бұрын
I ran the IDBDR on new trailmax missions and did not like them! Never again.
@MotoBeemer7 ай бұрын
What about them didn’t you like? Seems like the BDR would be tough for them.