Fearless Mom Fights Off Daughter's Kidnapper, The War on Cats, AI Joe Rogan Misinfo, & Today's News

[@SamanthaEatsCookies]

The fact this man had the BALLS to plead not guilty after auch an attack is pathetic. I fear for her future safety. This has to be such a nerve racking thing to have to worry about who is around you at all times

[@lotanowo]

His lawyer told him to say that. It’s all about minimizing his punishment at this point and delaying any guilt admission is standard.

[@darktheories1758]

See. This is the problem with Reporting things like that. "The man Plead Not Guilty". The man DIDN'T plead not guilty. The JUDGE enters a plea of Not Guilty for you, because YOU DO NOT HAVE A LAWYER at arraignment. They want you to have a lawyer before you can ACTUALLY enter a plea of your own. That way, you can't appeal on insufficient counsel. If you were to go out an get in trouble TODAY, you would be arraigned, usually within 48-72 hours in which case, the JUDGE will enter a plea of Not Guilty for you. EVEN if you say you want to plead guilty. Unless it's a misdemeanor that doesn't have jail time or if the jail time is 3-10 days. Usually anything requiring 30 days in jail or more, the judge is going to want to make sure you have a lawyer. Also, all the arraignment is, is the formal reading of the charges. Next you may have a bond/bail hearing followed by the PreTrial hearing. That would be the FIRST time for a perpetrator to actually enter a plea of THEIR own. Because by then you will have been assigned a Public Defender.

[@taylorbug9]

​@lotanowo that only works if they don't have video of the incident and they didn't catch the guy red handed at the scene. Both of which happened. He's screwed. And his lawyer is not smart.

[@Strinching]

What a traumatic experience. I'm a trans girl and considered pretty, so I'm really scared of transphobic hate crimes and abductions. 😨

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@lotanowo I really REALLY don't understand how lawyers can defend criminals. I mean the pay has to be astounding because I just don't know if I would have it in me.

[@JenesisDark]

From a psych POV, that mom was amazing. Bystander effect was real, and she beat it by making each person responsible for something; "Help me with him,", "Call the cops", "Close the door". If you ever have an emergency, always pick one person, and tell them what to do. "Get Help,", "Call 911". This can save your life and help snap people out of the bystander effect

[@rebel1612]

Good point!

[@briheartsgames7651]

Amazing advice!!!

[@miss1of2]

The bystander effect has come under questions when you look at real world events from surveillance cameras

[@acolyteaxiom4054]

​@@miss1of2In China you can lay dying in the street for hours, the whole day even, and noone will stop what they're doing to help you. *No-one*

[@JoybuzzerX]

@@miss1of2 Agreed. I feel this lady got real lucky with her neighbors. I've known neighbors who watched crimes from the safety of their home and cover without calling cops because they didn't want to get involved.

[@EH9]

I'm a vet and a cat owner, and I think it's important to also remember that outdoor cats are also dangerous to other domestic species, e.g. canine parvovirus (often just called parvo) is a virus that jumped species from cats. It's a very contagious disease with a very high mortality rate. And the difference between quality of life between indoor only cats and outdoor cats is clear where I practice. Outdoor cats are much more prone to trauma and diseases.

[@ashbatz]

Exactly. If people don't care about the ecosystem and other animals, they should at least care about their kitties. People who let their cats out are either ignorant to the dangers or truly don't value their lives. I've seen people try to defend outdoor house cats with "they'd be bored inside!" If you can't provide adequate enrichment to an animal without endangering them, don't have pets!

[@kgal1298]

I've had cats me entire life I get so annoyed at the people who think 1. it's cruel to fix their cat 2. they just let them out and then they disappear. I live by coyotes and mountain lions I wish they'd stop being so stupid about it. Also, I've worked with rescues with have do not adopt lists because people won't change their process then they just come back every 2 years because they let their cat out and it died or disappeared. Ugh.

[@zahleyart]

Thank you for the context on Parvovirus, people don't believe me when I say my cat almost died to parvo when she was a kitten because they say "that's a dog disease" without considering there are different strains. She's never been outside and still she's been so hurt by outdoor cats.

[@jonathanbelfire]

@@ashbatz WOAH WOAH WOAHHH...... hold on there.... These people care a lot. Didn't you see them change their profile picture during Earth day to let you know how important the environment is?

[@MissZencefil]

We live with hundreds of Cat on streets, that author is right the real “invasive species” is us. We destroy the environment. Is it ok to kill humans because we bred millions of cows who eat so much and shit so much and increase global warming? Istanbul has so much cat and really is Istanbul so barren of nature just because cats? Bullshit.

[@just2lovable]

The first argument to neutering your female cat should be the risk of cancer. My cat is currently going through a full double mastectomy (double mammary strip removal) due to breast cancer. Was told by the vet if she’d been neutered before first coming in season she would have had 95% less chance of cancer. I had no idea.

[@RebekahKroezen]

Technically for male cats it’s called neutering and for female cats it’s called spaying. Good info to share though! 😊

[@Couldntbeme123]

Not to make you feel bad but I also had this happen to my cat, but she unfortunately passed away shortly after the surgery. It spreads so quickly and cats are unlikely to recover from it.

[@TheDeDuos]

We noticed are kitten start going into heat at around 3 to 4 months old so we spayed her, but found out at the vet that she was already pregnant and had them terminated. She gained alot of weight (and ate alot) and is our biggest cat now, we started feed her less and giving her more water. Do you mean "first coming in season" as in her searching for a parter?

[@KanaiNimrRa]

The earlier you have your pet fixed, the better their health is overall. Spaying a female cat at the appropriate age can also avoid her having issues with UTI, uterus, and rectum in addition to assisting in preventing cancer.

[@18puppies91]

It can definitely help with both health and behavior. I wish your cat luck ❤

[@gradof6b]

The first story is just another case of "sorry we can't stop him, call us when he kills you👍" they need to do something about stalkers beyond a simple restraining order

[@NWPaul72]

Not to victim blame in any way, but the notion that that girl didn't even have pepper spray on her while having a restraining order against a creep bothers me. I feel like you should get issued a Taser when the order is granted.

[@GwendolynnBY]

@@NWPaul72 you're literally responding to a comment saying that the justice system needs to do more because it has consistently and repeatedly failed victims, and your response is "it's the victim's fault and responsibility though". Saying "not to victim blame in any way" at the start of your comment doesn't mean you're automatically okay to victim blame. people shouldn't have to live in fear when they've reported a stalker (more than once) and gotten a restraining order.

[@forestrees2000]

@@NWPaul72or maybe she shouldn’t HAVE to defend herself against fucking creeps at all?

[@alejandrogarcia3227]

​@@forestrees2000police only get involved when a crime is committed. Sure there's the court order but the police can't just be a bodyguard sadly.

[@EulerPath]

@@GwendolynnBYhow is NWPaul72 doing victim blame? They never said anything with the attitude of "it's the victim's fault and responsibility though". All that they are saying is that they should have something to defend themselves. Even if she had pepper spray/Taser I don't think it would have stopped the attempted kidnapping, so how is that victim blaming. I think what NWPaul72 is just good advice for anyone who has a stalker, also just good advice in general. We all agree that no one should live in fear with a stalker, but sadly we do live in a world with that. Because of that it will always be good advice to have a way to defend yourself.

[@matthewjalovick]

That mom is an absolute badass. That dude made me so angry. I’ve been rejected a dozen times and gone through plenty of breakups… but to KIDNAP and assault someone because they don’t like you back?! What in the hell?

[@ShawnC.W-King]

For reals, hella small dick, crazy nutso energy.... What is wild to me Is the fact the guy could not take no for an answer and has been doing nothing but stalking her in other instances since day 1. What aggravates me the most is that these "orders of protection" to someone who is crazy enough, they only see that as mere "suggestion" of anything at all... Because they know 9/10, most most cops won't act on anything when someone violates an order a couple times or three.

[@leximccumber9402]

Unfortunately... It's so common to be stalked. I've been stalked 3 times and my sister 5... it's not all men but it's always a man.

[@lordfrz9339]

@@leximccumber9402 If your a girl then yea, your prob getting stalked by crazy wierdo men. But plenty of women can t take rejection well either. But the difference is the man is usualy not in any physical danger. So definately scarrier for women. But crazy wierdos is not exclusive to men.

[@marcosvazquez6961]

Yeah , those guys are giving us a bad name,

[@crypticcorgi8280]

The guy is definitely mentally unwell.

[@Rikkilover17]

The fact that the daughter in the first story took all the steps and still nothing happened tells me all I need to know about our justice system. Police and governors want to be tough on crime but not crimes that don’t look good to their resume like stalking or sexual assault.

[@Covers-and-Commentary]

Yup

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

They also make you take allot of steps to prove how serious you are about it, but tbh that can simply depend on how petty they can be. They make it so that it's easier to move on by doing nothing. They make it a chore.

[@funkspinna]

NYC...to be expected.

[@WarEagle1023]

​@funkspinna this can happen anywhere buddy...not JUST NYC...so clearly you are implying political bullshit, which this is not the time nor place

[@overestimatedforesight]

"Tough on crime," much like "party of law and order," doesn't actually mean taking action to prevent crime. It means targeting minorities

[@JustJoeBlogs]

The kidnapping story once again reminds us that the majority of these types of offences occur, where the suspect and victim know each other, and that social media posts depicting "stranger kidnapper" scenarios really do distort the real life issues related to harassment and stalking. There were no plastic ties on car doors, baby seats on the road or paper stuck to the windscreen. Just a single individual with a plan and opportunity targeted at someone who they already knew.

[@LatinaCreamQueen]

She looks like someone who'd fight to the death for her baby. Absolute amazing mother. She lept into action.

[@flashthefalcon948]

YES

[@silvercro]

Most mothers go into mama bear mode for their kids.

[@kjsdpgijn]

She looks like she'd kick my ass for looking at her daughter wrong and I'm all for it haha What a BAMF.

[@cubone44]

Lmao your username is crazy 😂

[@patrickchang9135]

Leapt

[@cloekeet]

I'm a cat owner. My cat only goes outdoors on a harness and leash. I've always been a firm believer in spaying or nurturing your pet. My cat is a menace enough indoors. I have no Intention of allowing my chaotic furrball outdoors. I've always been aware that cats could wreak havoc on any local bird species among others. It's a fact.

[@sammalsikuri3828]

I agree with everything here. It's simply fact that cats living outdoors are a risk to the wildlife and the cats themselves, and I strongly believe in spaying your pets (especially cats and dogs). Especially if they're allowed to roam outside. I can understand some of the cat owners' upset as sometimes the language used can feel like an attack towards cats (especially when the people being against cats call themselves dog people - as Jackson Galaxy often says, people tend to look at cats with dog-coloured glasses, so as a cat owner myself it can be really frustrating how some people treat cats), but that doesn't negate the facts. One time I was talking to a classmate about cats and I clearly remember her telling me how she had to let their cat out because "she looked so sad looking at us playing outside in the window 🥺" after the vet had told them that the cat shouldn't be let out for a certain amount of time (something was done at the vet, they let it out early). She talked about it as if she did something amazing, while I just looked at her in mild disbelief. Imo she exposed her cat to unnecessary risks. I wish people did more research on cats before getting them. All of the things you mention here aren't that difficult to find and can come up pretty easily, especially on youtube.

[@borrrden]

Interesting. I grew up on a gigantic farm. I had four cats just because they showed up at some point and stayed. My dad was allergic so they lived outside or they could go into our basement for shelter. We had them all neutered and spayed and they all lived long lives and brought us many mouse offerings (we fed them of course but they still hunted). Now that I live in a city I see how just about everything I learned as a child is the opposite here.

[@sammalsikuri3828]

@@borrrden while I believe it's better to keep cats inside, I know not everyone can or will do that. To be fair, a lot of people assume cats should be let outside and aren't aware or look our for the risks that it entails. Or they give up with trying to stop the cat from going outside. People should be more aware of the concept of catios (cat patios)! They allow the owner to let the cat go "outside" while also keeping the cat and the local wildlife safe. I feel like a lot of people who let cats roam also have space outside to put up some type of catio. I'm glad that you at least had them neutered and spayed so there wasn't a possibility for more cats roaming about, and a farm is definitely a safer area for the cats themselves as well. I grew up in a city(/town by american standards) where we had a lot lof nature and people were spread out, but still enough cars and people to be a risk. I've heard too many stories where someone let their cat go outside freely and it ended up getting run over by a car.

[@borrrden]

@@sammalsikuri3828 for sure cars are a hazard. One of our dogs was hit years ago and I totally get the risks of an urban or even suburban environment. It’s just interesting to me how many things are different between rural and urban. For example people in urban areas have no hesitation about approaching a raccoon during the day but in the country we get it drilled into our heads that a raccoon during the day is likely rabid because they are nocturnal. Come to find out later that they are smart little buggers and changed their sleeping habits to be awake when there was a better chance of finding trash can food! That’s wild (pun not intended).

[@firefrenzygaming1071]

@@borrrden I could understand a valid reasoning for outdoor cats when it comes to barn cats on a farm, they're essentially working cats and if they don't do the rodent control then the farmer just will anyway and i'd rather a cat do it than chemicals/traps tbh Also just read your other comment and didn't know that about raccoons so thanks for the fun raccoon fact! :)

[@softwaifu]

BLESS every single one of those neighbors - i was once attacked by an ex in a very public place and not a single bystander stopped or did anything. We think, "oh someone's being attacked in the street, obviously I'm going to help and so would everyone else" but you truly never know until you're in the moment. Praying they are blessed and protected ❤

[@kriskross6934]

The bystander effect, look it up. That’s a big reason why people don’t want to interfere even if they think they should

[@beewest5704]

If you are ever in the same situation god forbid try & make eye contact with a bystander & ask them directly for help. "Man with the orange hat, lady with the blue are get him off of me." If one goes & helps other ppl will follow.

[@Ghostface944]

Literally the president of your country did things equal or far worse…..how can you be surprised?

[@qt_stacy]

thats heartbreaking im sorry that happened to you.. its possible this 18 year old couldve suffered the same fate if her mom hadnt been there already fighting off the guy.. because at that point if anyone joins & it instantly is a 2v1. mom + neighbor vs attacker.. & while i truly hope i would have the courage to interfere physically or at the very least call the police - im not gonna act holier than thou & claim that i would when ive never had to decide. (for my own ego's sake, i feel compelled to add that i have stepped in to verbally defend people more times than i can count, especially if its a woman [i am 6'0 200lbs which gives me confidence most people wont ever have due to their size) the point i want to make here, is that it takes a brave & selfless individual to be willing to put themselves into harm's way to save a stranger who is actively being harmed. it will be 1v1 the moment they interfere potentially unless the victim has enough clarity to help subdue someone who was just threatening their life, safety, & sense of security. & the unfortunate reality of our current world - less than 10% of all adults fit into this description.. that's probably generous as it is. i truly hope you're never the victim of violence again & i'm glad you made it out of that scary & violating situation with the ability to share your experience.

[@qt_stacy]

that's a great idea & sounds like it would truly help.. puts people on the spot immediately.@@beewest5704

[@Katastr0phic_Katicorn]

I love cats. I have had cats ALL my life. Most of my outdoor cats, with bells, chips and high vis-collars, died within the first few years. My indoor cats are turning 19 this year and -aside from age related issues- have been the happiest, most trainable, and most amazing companions I could have ever asked for. Keep your cats inside.

[@lordlyka68]

Hey I think you accidentally messed up your words. You crossed out the point you wanted to emphasize. On youtube you use asterisks, or *, on either side of whatever you want bolded, and for italizicing, you use the underscore, or _. 👍

[@shutitfukface]

sad that you had to learn that the hard way...

[@18puppies91]

Yes I love cats! But there are too many cats, and it is due to the fact they breed so quickly. Most cats should be indoors. If a cat is feral and needs to be an outdoor cat, make sure they still get sterilized!

[@Midnight0Mistress]

My cat has been trained to be inside and no longer has a desire to be outside at all. Only on the pouch for some fresh air. That's it.

[@despain8726]

I only keep the cats I don’t like outside. Like this cat named panda. But she’s so fat. I don’t think even the eagles want her

[@Fairygoblin777]

That woman in the first story is such s bad ass. Good on her for protecting her baby eta: it's crazy what humans are capable of when we love someone. That moan was pepper sprayed and beat very badly and she did not stop. She even said herself "that's my baby. You can't take her" . Not to mention hiw many people stepped in to help these complete strangers? I think this is a ridiculous show of just how much all of us are capable of if we work off of love and community and how strong we are as a unit when we love and work together. Whats sad is that despite proof and so many witnesses, nothing happend to this creep. It goes to show you just how unsafe we really are. To be stalked and followed in your own home. That poor girl will never feel safe enough to walk her dog again. It makes me sick to see time and time again, someone getting away with stuff like this. This man will be free, on the streets, and looking for his next victim, or even her again and thats vile.

[@SamanthaEatsCookies]

That mother and those neighbors that battled back from this monster deserve all the praise. It's disgusting this man thought he'd be able to get away with this.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Also man some guy think their entitled to women alao thank to aweful people like andrw tate they feel emboldened

[@MrFineWhiteWine]

Really the neighbor should get more credit, she clearly wasn’t very effective until he got involved

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@USSAnimeNCC- I agree andrew tate is a menace, but it feels like a bit of a projection to pin this guy as a Tate fan due to what he did when we can't possibly know if he was a fan or not. I will however take the point that, guys, if you're reading these comments, watch the story again and maybe understand why a lot of women feel like they have to be cautious or guarded around guys, since while the kidnapping might be fairly rare, a lot of women have stories of guys taking rejection badly or stalking them.

[@evNSteel]

@@gregvs.theworld451 I don't see how that would be projection at all. He also didn't say the guy was a Tate fan, but that Tate and people like him embolden these types of people.

[@Radhaun]

As someone who happily owns five cats: keep your cats indoors. Not only is it better for your ecosystem, it's safer for your cats. My parents had indoor/outdoor cats my whole childhood and we lost a lot of them. Sometimes we'd find the bodies (hit by a car or mysteriously dead, probably poisoned) but a lot of times they'd just be gone. If you want them to have an outdoor experience, catios or just screened in porches are great. You do have to have scratch mats and cat trees to have nice furniture, but you should have those anyway. You can even make a scratch mat from carpet squares and plywood or jute twine and cardboard.

[@yes_hunny]

same here! when I was a kid we always had outdoor/indoor-outdoor cats that ended up tragically dying, either getting run over or poisoned, and my parents finally caved in about 4 years ago, my dad found a starving half-breed siamese kitten near a gas station and when he brought it home he was so smitten that he decided never to let it outside without a harness 😂

[@raylouis7013]

Many people I know have "cat runs" enclosed areas on a balcony or in the garden, that are designed to give cats an area they can spend time outside but they are contained.

[@Absafraginlootly]

Aussie here, I love my cat and I absolutely had him neutered as a kitten and keep him inside, he has a cat enclosure and goes on a daily walks on a leash and harness in the rest of the garden and the neighbouring park. This not only keeps the native birds safe from him but also keeps him safe from getting diseases from things he catches, from injury fighting other cats, and other dangers like getting hit by a car. I wish more people would think about these things rather than getting defensive about it.

[@hommefataltaemin]

Yes I do the same with my cats :) but we also live in a mountainous area with lots of coyotes, bobcats, even mountain lions. So there is no way for ANY cats to be truly “outdoor” cats in the first place safely, so it may be different from your situation.

[@pawpkitty]

Exactly. I think we need to normalize walking cats

[@ReaperWithHips]

There are tons of pet backpacks too. I’ve seen hikers with them, so cute. There are also really nice pet carriages too.

[@rosieemarch434]

Idk about where you are but here in the UK we also have to worry about humans hurting our cats, I'm sure it's every couple months or so I read a news article about the sick abuse humans deal out to cats they find out and about. Swear if anyone hurt my cats....

[@Angel-od1bt]

Definitely. I live in a small town and I’m on a Facebook group to keep up with local news, and literally every week someone posts that they run over a cat or a cat has gone missing. One woman has a pedigree ragdoll and so far it has survived being stolen and returned AND being hit by a car..but she still lets him out. The lifespan of outdoor cats is less than half of indoor cats. I couldn’t live with myself if I found out some effer messed with my cats. So they’ll stay indoors, and they won’t ruin the local wildlife.

[@rebel.taylord]

In my early 20s I went on a about 4 dates with a coworker, realize we aren't a good match and told him so politely. He started stalking me. Thankfully my parents lived in a gated condo, so I informed the security to not let him in. One night, as I was walking home I saw him sitting on his motorbike near the gate. He did not notice me so I made a detour to use the side entrance. My heart almost leap out of my chest. Sometimes you just never know what they will do

[@SunflowerFuu669]

✨Cats belong inside✨ not just for our ecosystem, but for their health. They are healthier and safer inside, and I don’t understand how willing so many cat owners are to risk their pets lives.

[@kittehgo]

I have a friend that has cats, once they have built an enclosed cat yard. The cats will be able to be outside or inside as they choose and still be safe.

[@Allanon123]

@@kittehgo Hopefully no bird feeders.

[@robinthetactician4649]

Agreed my cat get walks on a harness since he loves his excersize but he NEVER free roams the outdoors for his own safety. He wears a bell collar to in case he does get out he makes enough noise he cant sneak up on things easily.

[@TheBmann10]

For some reason Europeans get really hung up about this. I’ve brought this up on Reddit a few times and each time several Europeans said “well there are no birds having problems where I live so my cat being outside is fine” and it’s like, no matter where you live there is a type of bird at risk unless you live in Antarctica.

[@kylaluv8453]

It depends, in the city it is better to keep your cats inside, but if you have a farm or just live in the country you will know that nothing keeps the local pests out of your garden like a barn cat. Just like live stock dogs protect the other animals on the farm, cats keeps pests out of the grains and gardens.

[@ElvisBreh]

My wife is having an issue with a guy at her work about him not leaving her alone even tho she’s obviously married. These people literally tell themselves they’re the best option and make this imaginary relationship in their head it honestly scares me how men can create this narrative and justify their actions through sheer will. It pisses me off

[@candledapple]

Does he work at her company as well? Can she get HR or similar involved? If nothing else, having a paper trail is a good thing

[@ripn929707]

​@@heelsenclutchDoing all that seemingly repulsive stuff all of a sudden, will more than likely trigger his savior fantasies, and make him try harder to save you from whatever unknown forces that are breaking you down... He will never see that its him.

[@ElvisBreh]

@@candledapple HR doesn’t do anything they care about the company more about a workers well being. That’s being sad yes they still work together, and he hasn’t pushed the boundary of touching her or stalking her. But if push comes to shove he’s gonna see god real quick

[@veronicasmemories]

I don't understand why some guys end up like that. It's absolutely disturbing

[@TS_Chick]

As a cat lover YES. there is so much data that indoor/outdoor cats have a significantly higher risk of disease, car accident deaths, attacks from other cats etc. Plus the ecological impacts. It's so so bad. Keep em incide and give them lots of love!!

[@someonedifferent198]

Agreed in many countries leading cause off cat death is trauma a.k.a being hit by a cat for example. Keep the inside, build a cat run in your garden if you can. But keep them and the birds save.

[@CoachJohnMcGuirk]

​@someonedifferent198 that's weird, in most places it's kidney problems. Do people just run over cats all the time where you live?? Wtf?

[@blepfish]

As a cat lover and owner, I have four, I agree that cats are an invasive species. Just because we absolutely love our furry little monsters doesn't mean that we can ignore the extreme damage they can do to ecosystems. One of my cats, Susie, was rescued off the streets and am so grateful that i was able to save her from that sort of existence. Plus catios are a thing and i would love to have one for my cats someday.

[@PandaliasKay]

I'd love to have a catio! I try to give my cats as much screen time as I can during the warmer days. Lots of direct sun with cat trees in each window, but I'd love to have a space where they can physically at least go outside. Maybe I'll try to put together a little wood platform and screen project via inspiration from early 1900s baby cages 😂

[@WakingWildflower]

any creature is an invasive species if they are domesticated and then abandoned by the population that domesticated them. the problem with this ideology is that it has real life consequences for the people like me and others who are actively trying to fix the problem. this ideology promotes euthanization. they criminalize feeding cats. why? because they're "an invasive species." but they wouldn't BE an invasive species if the cities and states didn't STOP their funding for the programs that get these cats fixed. we are now offered basically NO help because of this idea that cats are bad for the ecosystem. humans are the ones who get these cats and then don't take care of them. do you know how many people got cats during the pandemic and then didn't want them after and either let them outside to be strays or euthanized them? humans are the problem period. and toting the mantra "cats are an invasive species" is HURTING our efforts to solve the problem. so no, it's not helpful or wise to say, sorry. it's incredibly frustrating that people half-educate themselves and then want to have opinions that alter people's perception of the situation. if we want the issue to stop, ask your cities to fund programs that get these cats fixed. the average price for getting ONE female cat fixed rn is $300 where I live. the programs that offered $30-35 dollar spay and neuters got gutted because of the classification of cats as an invasive species. it's stupid beyond belief. and I'm tired.

[@justinbell7309]

The earliest evidence of cats in Poland dates back to 6000BC. After 8000 years, you cannot honestly claim cats are invasive anymore, not without rendering that term effectively meaningless.

[@Mama_Bear524]

Exactly. We don’t let or want dogs roaming free why is it ok to let or want cats to?

[@18puppies91]

Yes! You can love them and not want them to die, which is the result of overpopulation. I foster animals (mostly kittens) and am currently working on designing a catio!

[@choccy_bagel]

I still hate how a bunch of people adopted cats over the pandemic and then just fucking dropped them

[@sandramackay2575]

Me as well

[@bece00]

It is sad. Although I wonder how much of that is due to the housing crisis in the U.S.

[@pearlygirl88]

Dogs too. It’s infuriating how many “strays” just appeared after the pandemic lessened. Both of ours were dropped out of cars that drove off.

[@jonathanbelfire]

A LOT of people got used to being home all the time. Some of these people were lonely and wanted a companion. Others, always wanted a pet but never was around so this provided a great opportunity. Unfortunately, as the pandemic waned and people traveled more and social interactions resumed, many of these people realized they didn't have the time to actually take care of the pet properly and resume normal life. For many people, it was a short sighted decision made on a whim. I'm always someone who enjoyed travelling so I've never actually gotten any pets of my own because I wouldn't be able to properly travel or even devote enough time on a daily basis given my work (even though I'd like a dog).

[@donutchan8114]

People used to abandon (usually female and/or pregnant) cats at our house all the time, 3 of the cats I own were abandoned and the 4th was a baby of an abandoned cat. Theyre all neutered because dealing with abandoned cats you realize they proliferate like crazy otherwise, its really sad how little you can feasibly do because you cant really take in every single abandoned animal.

[@jeffmcarthur5617]

My wife and I work with cat rescue, and we've done TNR, (trap, neuter, release,) and I love my cats as they are family. And despite all that, I am of the opinion that cats are an invasive species. The bottom line is that they hunt like predators but breed like prey. That doesn't mean they should be killed, of course. But it does mean they need to be neutered. Anything and everything that can be done needs to done to make that happen.

[@reinasherman8009]

Very much agree with this!

[@gabby3406]

This is so true.

[@tylertheelk873]

Honestly it was so refreshing to hear all those reporters speak their minds. So often, big news companies will choose these liars purely for profit, hearing the journalists stand up for themselves and their integrity was great to see.

[@alejandrogarcia3227]

MSNBC is bias towards the left of course they were okay with it... This isn't brave or special

[@tylertheelk873]

@@jesusrobles-ex9uz lol well, what little there is left

[@alejandrogarcia3227]

@@tylertheelk873 MSNBC is bias towards the left so everyone dunking on the Republican isn't really standing up in any meaningful way

[@Superfan109]

@@tylertheelk873True, there aren’t many of them left…

[@ania5038]

I find it highly hypocritical and for Phil to call Ronna McDaniel a bad actor promoting election denialism is laughable when the same people who insist Biden was elected fairly denied the election of Donald Trump.

[@misty306]

That incident with the attempted kidnapping is wild. People don’t realize that anyone from anywhere can become someone’s stalker. I had a stalker at my job. He was one of the security guards and he used his post to his advantage. Luckily, when I filed a complaint with my employer they took it seriously and contacted the security agency with my complaint demanding an investigation. It took 2 weeks, but my complaint was taken seriously and he was removed from my job. I can’t imagine how long the victim was being harassed and was filing complaints before she was attacked. She’s one of the lucky ones.

[@garcialuis24]

Feeder Breeders are people that leave food out for all these cats but don’t trap them, so what ends up happening is outside cats get together for food and end up reproducing which creates bigger colonies. My wife and I have been trapping cats and taking them to the local shelter for their TNR program, we have trapped almost 100 cats so far and most of them have adopted. Very informative segment and hopefully it does bring more awareness to the importance of the TNR programs.

[@bryyylc]

TNR programs have saved so many cats. we need more people involved and educated on these topics. thank you both for all that you do!

[@mctwitchs]

My Neighbor had about 30 feral cats i had to find someone locally to do TNR now there is only a few left after a a few years. My neighbor does continue to feed them. she just sits out bags of cat food.

[@Quarktehduck]

A lot of people in my area have lost outdoor cats because that food people leave out and all the small animals that eat it attracts coyotes. Why people in Florida continue to let cats outdoors where we have coyotes, gators, bears, boars, and bobcats is beyond me.

[@Candleknight]

About the NBC story: man, that management dropped the ball SO hard. Such an example that if you don't listen to your employees before making a decision, then you're going to be listening to them twice as loud while you scramble to clean up the mess you make.

[@Nevertoleave]

I enjoy that they all had an issue with her and went, “time to make our grievances public.” 100% love it

[@switchgear100]

I do like that they tried to bring in a varied spectrum of voices, but they obviously should have done a better job vetting and picking that voice.

[@kueller917]

There's something of an era problem too here. Of course the idea makes sense, have a diversity of opinion to get different angles on topics and challenge the viewers. Not a new idea either. It's that the conservative party is becoming increasingly insane. Not just radical, everyone is falling into the increased polarization these days, but completely detached from reality. Supposedly the party leads should be more professional than a random talk radio addict on facebook but they learned the hard way that this is no longer necessarily true.

[@ShadowsPancakes]

As a cat ower cats are definitely an invasive species. If you love your cats you'd keep them inside and only let them out on a leash or in a catio, and you'd get them fixed.

[@Bdayyyyy]

Yes, my cat was born into a feral colony but saved from the fires that hit our area in 2020 and bottle fed. He has a catio and stays inside. I've seen people advocate to leave kittens from feral cats to be "raised by mom" and it blows my mind. Leave them to predators, disease and more breeding? Also, if you need an outdoor ratter, terriers are much more effective. We had thousands of dollars in Rodent damage around our property prior to getting a Jack Russel Terrier, even with a barn cat and traps. Now it is not an issue.

[@YurinanAcquiline]

Agreed.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@SedonacityslickerIf it ain't that cute, it stands no chance against me wym?? Anyone killing me needs to be at least that cute.

[@TheDrepulizer]

The birds in the background of the video is so cute. Makes the tough stories that we hearing a little more relaxing.

[@Aspie2796]

I love cats, I have 4 of them (plus a dog). I will NEVER let my cats outdoors. Not just because of the fact they're harmful to wildlife - they can get hurt so easily, especially by humans. There are people around my neighborhood who will swerve just to hit the strays around here. I don't want my babies hurt.

[@avet4521]

I'm a big cat fan! I have 3, all indoors. I keep mine indoors because they're actually happier animals when they don't have to worry about their safety. As long as cats have something to keep them entertained, indoors is a much better lifestyle for them.

[@THEDubbleHelixx]

No one argues why letting dogs run loose would be a bad thing, but imply letting a pet cat run loose is irresponsible, and you'll have a ton of people piling on you.

[@aturner488]

They are prisoners they should have free will to explore they are supposed to or dont have them just my opinion, my friend does the same with hers and they spend the days looking at the window i feel so sorry for them they will be born and die without ever being free.

[@carmandirda]

​@@aturner488They're daydreaming about not being mauled by coyotes, hit by cars, or shot by neighbors because their responsible parents kept them indoors.

[@UserNameTaken-f9s]

Thank you for being a good cat owner. My neighbor lets her 3 cats out every single day and they've been eating my plants and pooping all over my yard.

[@BeKiwii]

I am a lifelong cat lover and have had cats all my life. I have also volunteered and run a cat shelter for many years. If more people had to deal with sick and injured stray cats, pet cats dropped off on their doorstep on the brink of death with terrible wounds, they would think twice about letting their cats outside. Especially in urban areas. Domestic cats are just that, DOMESTIC. Just like we don't let dogs run around unsupervised outside, we shouldn't let cats. Cats can have fulfilling and enriched lives indoors. I understand it's hard to convert a previously outdoor stray adult cat to be indoors, but a kitten under 6 months, regardless of being born inside or outside, can be trained to live indoors only. Also, as Bob Barker said: "Help control the pet population - have your pets spayed or neutered." Shelters are constantly overwhelmed during kitten season thanks to people letting their unfixed cats out to reproduce, and as much as people like to pretend all kittens end up in loving homes, thousands get euthanized every month due to crowding. No animal NEEDS to experience birth, humans are just projecting their own beliefs onto other species. As humans we are responsible for bringing cats around the world, we also need to be responsible for protecting local environments WE introduced the invasive species to.

[@rexana_rexana]

Well, dogs are let run around without supervision, we do still have stray dogs, and that is also a problem. They can also have their ecological impact like in Australia where they clash with local predators. I agree with everything else tho! Just there very much is still an issue of people not taking care of their dogs

[@kindallnight1615]

@@rexana_rexanaYes places that have other canine animals will clash but dogs don’t murder at the rate of cats do.

[@briheartsgames7651]

Adriana not only had angels by her side but she is an angel!!! This mom is the example of how almost all moms are ready to fight for her children and will not quit no matter what happens, SO BRAVE!!!

[@thierryfaquet7405]

Brave mom Also let's not forget the two courageous men who actually saved her daughter.

[@auslandermercury972]

I’m glad you covered the NBC thing. I love your show and I’m happy and surprised it made the list. I watch Meet the Press every Sunday and I was floored and impressed by how quickly Chuck Todd went to the mats for Kristen Welker. I’m glad that there are people at NBC who choose to stand up to their employer when the employer does something they don’t think is right. I find myself doing that at work and it’s tough. It’s intimidating. If you watch the whole thing, I think you can even hear Chuck Todd’s voice kind of breaking toward the end of what he says, and I get it.

[@charlesdean2781]

I’m so fkn proud of not just Adriana the mom, but the neighbors who without a second thought jumped in to help. Awesome people!

[@shintanetagawa]

My friend found a young kitten in her barn 2 years ago and she was worried about where it came from and if it would survive. I immediately offered to adopt him and fed him kitten formula, had him checked at the vets, and once he was the required safe weight i got him neutered. He still remembers the streets though and he likes to be outdoors so i got him a harness and leash and i take him on walks. The neighbors get a kick out of it, i am getting exercise, and he is having safe, and supervised time outside where i can make sure he isnt a menace and isnt getting hurt. I see posts all the time on facebook to look out for a family cat that was let out and never came back. I hear it all the time, "well my cat always comes back!" Yup. I'm sure your cat does, until they dont.

[@chevalfille12]

Exactly right

[@TheDeDuos]

an indoor cat that wants to be out, will do anything including bolting out the backdoor, somecats have more feral qualities that make them wanna be outside all the time, so why put the blame on the owners? Today at my friends house i walked about back and the little fucker got out but i got him luckily. Shit happens

[@Kris_L.]

"Yup. I'm sure your cat does, until they don't. " Exactly this! People freak out if their dogs run off, but then just let their cats out. Are some cats fine being outside? Sure, but do you really want to go through some kind of "test" to see if your cat survives or not? Just like most other animals, there are smart ones and not so smart ones. There are cats that have had really close calls, and then learned lessons from those close calls, and there are others who haven't learned those lessons. Why do you want to chance it? Because he's never run out into traffic before? Hmm. What if he's being chased? It just blows my mind.

[@outerspaceguts]

Hi there, that's a unique experience, good for you! I'd like to share mine, we have 1 feral cat and 3 outdoor neighbour cats at our farm (off grid). The first year she got pregnant in the fall and we never saw the kittens so we got her fixed because of how terrible that was. This will be our fourth year with her, she comes and goes as she pleases and is super friendly (loves to jump on your shoulder) and we've talked about finding her housing but we've all seemed to agree it would be cruel to make an outdoor cat and indoor cat. We feed her whenever she visits but she rarely finishes those single serving whiska pate things from all the fieldmice. We see her 3-4x a week now that she's matured. We know one day she won't come back, the circle of life and all that, lot's of predators but cats are pretty quick and can climb anything. But with little experience and absolutley without claws they won't fare well in cities with birds of prey or coyotes

[@damdamfino]

@@TheDeDuos and kids want to run into traffic, that doesn’t mean we let them.

[@earthtoast20]

There’s a major issue with our system when it comes to the safety of women especially when it comes to protection orders. My ex was abusive and started harassing/threatening to find me and beat my now husband after I told him to leave me alone for reaching out after he’d gone through a 12 step program. (This wasn’t the first time he’d tried to contact me). It escalated so quickly I had to call the police and file for a protective order. Luckily I moved away but upon moving back to my home state years later I found out that they never actually served him with the protection order and since he hadn’t been served, the order had been null and void. There need to be better safe guards in place and what’s the point of a protection order if they don’t get taken seriously or served.

[@drakependragon8439]

@ashpace4497 there is no "issue" qith the justice system qhen it comes to protective orders, the reality is that the justice system requires evidence, and there is a presumption of innocent in all cases so if you go to court and say "Steve" is stalking you and say that it is because you saw him at 3 different stores that you were at or even worse things but have no evidence then "Steve" basically has to say "I didn't stalk her" and his words carry the same weight in court as yours and you don't get to keep "steve" from going places just because you go to them.

[@earthtoast20]

@@drakependragon8439 a man trying to explain to me how protective orders work is hilarious. In my case, it turned out that they couldn’t reach him so it was never actually served thus for null and void. Save the “innocent until proven guilty” bullshit. This wasn’t a “oh no my ex tried to text me, get him officer!” situation. He had abused me, stalked me, tried to blame his suicide attempt on me, went radio silent, then decided to start stalking me again once I rejected his “12 step” apology that he sent me from an unknown number because his had been blocked. They didn’t call him in for a trial. They deemed the evidence I had against him and the abuse I’d encountered enough to grant a protective order. They don’t notify the person the that an order is possibly in the works against them unless it’s deemed that the protective order is needed and issued.

[@Hannius1]

What absolute legends that mom and their neighbors are! I am so glad this situation had a good ending. Please be safe out there, remember Kitty Genovese, and always be prepared to have your own back.

[@FoggyBadger]

The NBC thing is kind of interesting because it feels like behind-the-scenes conversations happening in the public. Like, we're literally witnessing coworkers venting about the higher-ups.

[@jock924491]

We so poorly handle stalkers in America. It's so frustrating, this wouldn't have happened if the cops dealt with it correctly. This lady is a certified BAMF, she showed the love of a mother beyond questioning.

[@belladonnaoaisling]

It's often the men we know and seldom random creeps in dark alleyways. The first story is a reminder of that fact, and it lives behind our polite smiles and minesweeper ways of trying to say "no." Why can't we just live in peace?

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Guys, take note of this. Call out the behavior of men that far too often make women feel like they need to treat us with caution, like they're scared of us on the basis of our birth sex, like we're predators in waiting. That shit hurts our feelings and pisses me off too, but I'm not dumb enough to believe that that treatment is women's fault and that they've got no good reasons to treat us that way. Be outspoken in word and action against this kind of entitled behavior, believe women when they say this happens too often and this isn't some crazy freak incident that happens once every 200 years, and call out men when they're excusing or justifying this behavior, call out your friends, co-workers, bosses, any guy you feel safe to call out for this violent misogynist behavior when you see and hear it. If you don't like women playing games with us, commit to rejecting and changing the social norms of men feeling entitled to women and acting angrily or violently when women reject them.

[@cosmo588]

Never be afraid to make a scene, scream, shout, make it everyone’s business if you feel you’re being targeted.

[@Quantum_Bluntz]

@@gregvs.theworld451yeah. It’s usually the ones that want control over another person what makes a predator. Some form of it. Not an excuse just an observation.

[@Window4503]

@@gregvs.theworld451Thanks for all of the nuance in your comment. I know it’s unfair to men, but it’s also sort of a “damned if you do/dont” situation where if the woman is trusting, she’s blamed for being too naive about men, and if she’s suspicious, she’s blamed for being too cynical about men. Literally nobody wins when these predators decide to attack after playing the long game.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@Window4503 Oh of course, it's a whole ass problem with no easy solutions. I think things would get better if the attitudes what what we consider acceptable behavior change, but I do think that mostly falls on us fellow men folk* (*yes there are ways women perpetuate this behavior too, but not nearly to the same degree and I offer grace to women fighting for they lives out there. Women didn't get us here and it' be ridiculous to ask they get us out.). I do think there's a side here that is, if not wholly unfair although maybe a little, is hurtful to men and I think a lot of disgruntled guys who want to pin the blame on feminism or whatever are at least partially looking for someone to recognize men are victimized in this social dynamic too. I have sympathy for men where I feel like a lot of people don't, and as an enby who can't exactly escape people perceiving me as a man, those problems are my problems too, so for those reasons I try and speak and advocate on both sides of the aisle re: issues like this.

[@Dobbyisfreelmao]

I like that my country (Hungary) is only ever in international news in any way to report on the folly of our politicians. What a time to be alive

[@Trey_Burke]

Would you prefer for us to be in the news due to migrant crime like Western European countries?

[@Dobbyisfreelmao]

@@Trey_Burke Your point being?

[@horrorpanda628]

I have an 11 month old daughter. When I found out I was having a girl of course at first I was so happy. But you definitely have this moment of pure fear of the world she will live in. With sexual assault stats and the little amount the law and courts can do with stalking. It is absolutely terrifying thinking you may not be able to protect your child. So happy the mom was able to save her daughter ❤

[@mslizwood]

I am in *awe* of all the anchors and journalist speaking up. It really feels like they're done with BS and vocalizing it aloud has given them such a united front! This is so incredibly important in any time, but especially when heading into an election and 'fake news' was such a talking point. Major kudos.

[@biancat7761]

I can genuinely see the motivation behind it. Wanting to have different political views on a program that is seen as an echo chamber. But they should have done their homework

[@cbzeej]

I don’t think it was a good idea. This would’ve been a great way to have both sides of the aisle make their points and have them challenged by the other side. The point of “how do we know she’s telling her point or what our bosses want to hear because they’re paying her” can be said about those same pundits that are criticizing her.

[@Dietsteve]

@@cbzeej Given her previous behavior towards many of the people speaking out, they have every right to be pissed off at her hiring. There's other people that could be the "other side" argumentor, but they went with the name because of ratings.

[@azuman7]

I don't have a problem with the general concept of "both sides of the aisle". But even if you are going to hire someone from that "side", which conceivably is over 100 MILLION ppl, you then have to ask what qualifications narrow it down to that ONE person. For me, the FIRST characteristic is being a person who is acting in good faith. Inwould take a random college professor with right leaning views, who is willing to admit any flaws with his views or side, but still argues for them overall, over someone who's biggest claim to fame is they held a position of power.

[@wertygospiner2245]

So they cancel someone with different views and you see that as a good thing? They aren't "speaking up" they are saying what they were paid to do so that their echo chamber stays the way it has been for decades.

[@juliacoves5873]

That first storey really scary/is relatable. I’m a woman and I live alone in an apartment building and my neighbour in the next unit tried to attack me once but my property management company evicted him almost immediately (I called the police at the time, but the management company helped when the police asked questions) . It made me feel safe in my building knowing that was the response. My apartment also has two locked doors you have to scan through to get in. Things can still happen though!! Someone can follow you or someone else in.

[@PropheticShadeZ]

Just be aware kidnapping is pretty rare, while terrifying. Stalkers are the problem, and the fact that authorities are almost useless in punishment and managing obsessed people Its so good to hear you were able to get some effective action

[@AndreaHernandez-jn1rv]

I actually avoided getting my cat spayed for about a year because I couldn’t afford the service, and quite frankly, I was scared of how invasive the procedure is. This sounds ridiculous, but after watching videos of the procedure, I had started to view getting my cat fixed as my little baby about to have a hysterectomy. It was scary for me to picture her going through the surgery. Luckily, my partner and my vet helped reassure me that she would be fine, and she was. One thing that brought me on board was the fact that getting a female cat spayed is actually considered preventative care For feline uterine cancer

[@18puppies91]

I know some places give financial help for sterilizing! While it sounds invasive, especially if you try to imagine going through it yourself, it is way less dangerous for them. Vets have mastered and proven the usefulness of sterilization.

[@yesits_maddy1304]

I've always been a big believer in indoor cats only, especially in metropolitan areas. It's safer for them, us, and the ecosystem.

[@Krazaam]

My sister made national news and was asked to be on Ellen because she fought off a 6 foot tall 25 year old deadbeat when she was in elementary school. He tried to grab her and pull her into his car while brandishing a gun and she kicked him repeatedly in the shins until he let go and she could sprint home. Watching this video brought so many emotions because these instances are so small in the amount of instances of kidnapping. I am so thankful that the mom and the neighbors were able to save her, but I wanted to share my sister's story because it is VERY rare to escape kidnappers and I hope that this brings some more awareness.

[@HeyItsEmilyLove]

Mommas protecting their babies do some incredible things. So much respect for Adriana. Great work to her

[@moviefan752]

My cat legit perked up and became real focused in the cat story when you started showing footage of rats and mice.

[@OofusTV]

My entire channel pretty much revolves around how bad it is for stray cats to be roaming the streets, even in the best of circumstances, so to see this becoming a more mainstream topic of discussion is really comforting ♥️

[@dahleno2014]

That’s amazing. In the USA alone billions of birds are killed by cats. And also their lifespan drops precipitously when they are outdoor cats. I have three cats, I keep them indoors, but I try to take them on walks frequently when it’s not winter.

[@OofusTV]

@@dahleno2014 Absolutely! I actually just rescued my 3rd one off the street even though I swore two was too many 😭 I couldn’t bare to leave such a friendly vulnerable kitty out there and it breaks my heart that I can’t scoop them all up and whisk them off to safety! I’m sure my local bird population appreciates it too it even if it’s just a small dent

[@PlsGiveBeans]

Thank you to the editors for all the work they do! Big ole shows make my soul happy

[@teriyakifoot2168]

As a cat owner/lover myself and a student going into zoology feral cats do cause a negative environmental impact I don’t think it’s unfair to ask pet owners to keep their animals inside

[@Dante.-]

Unfair to the cat

[@ArdentMoogle]

​@@Dante.-And is it not unfair to the birds or other prey that an invasive species kills them? I love cats, but if you let them roam free they are very bad for nature.

[@EmberPines]

There are lots of ways to enrich your cats life indoors.

[@Dante.-]

@@ArdentMoogle those birds exist to get killed by something or another Just leave out of birdfeeder and you are offsetting the carnage your cat will lay out My cat killed so many birds the city came out to investigate if the Zika virus had infected the local bird population

[@tylociraptor8131]

@@Dante.- It is not unfair to the cat. The owner can make alterations to their home, like cat shelves, to give the cat more vertical space in their home, they can create catios that allow them to go outside and not interact with wildlife, or they can take the cat out on a leash and harness. We have one cat who was let to roam wild, unaltered. She ended up pregnant, but after a group of local children BEAT HER SO BADLY WITH STICKS SHE LOST HER EYE, she miscarried in front of a parked car. But yeah, it's cruel to her to be inside.

[@DanteBogdan]

I can't even imagine how terrifying and traumatic that kidnapping attempt had to be, so glad they escaped.

[@Woozy.0]

Shouts out to that legendary mom in the first story. She really stood up and deserves a lotta love for that

[@_P4r4d0x_]

I’ve known so many people that just cycle through cats because they let them roam. They let the cat out, the cat doesn’t come back, they get a new cat, rinse and repeat. One family I knew in high school went through 5 or 6 cats in a single year. It’s not just native species that are threatened by outdoor cats. The cats themselves are at a massively increased risk of premature death either from predation, getting hit by cars, poisoned, etc.

[@blurrble5]

That kidnapping story is so horrifying! Too many of my male friends just dont understand when I try to tell them I dont feel comfortable going places alone. I had a man flash me last week and follow me down the road and I was told I should have taken it as a complement instead of a terrifying situation.

[@catlovingnerd21]

4:50 i agree with the biologist. as a cat lover myself, i can still recognize that cats are bad for ecosystems. they are,by definition, an invasive species. it's also dangerous for the cat to be going out freely because they can be hurt or killed by animals or cars. there are mesh cages and harnesses for indoor-outdoor cats! it's safer for both your cat AND your surrounding ecosystems to monitor your cat's "outside time". let them run around outside and explore and stuff SAFELY ❤

[@orbweaver9750]

As a cat owner in the US who has been in a lot of online spaces devoted to cats - I have noticed that cat owners in the US seem on the whole to be more willing to advocate for keeping cats indoors, and the people from Europe seem to, on the whole, view that as animal abuse and get VERY angry if you suggest that they stop letting them outdoors unsupervised. I love my cats, but I have a friend who runs a self-run TNR in the Chicago area (shoutout, Feed the Beasts!) who works with a local rescue to manage the feral population near her, and the health problems these cats experience is ROUGH, especially when some of them ended up in the colony with injuries that had very clearly been inflicted by humans. Stop letting you cats outdoors, and stop abandoning them when you're tired of them.

[@insu_na]

As a European I disagree. Most responsible European cat holders are completely fine with keeping their cats indoors. The few who are against it argue based on the reality that on average European homes are much smaller than American homes, so if you're not on a good income here, you might live in a shoebox where keeping a cat inside really might be bordering on abusive

[@107frenchy]

@@insu_na I feel like the solution for many (not all, just some) is pretty simple...don't get a cat when you live in a place that tiny?

[@MichiruEll]

​@@insu_na In Switzerland most older cat owners I know would consider it abuse to keep a cat indoors. So does the local shelter (they won't let you adopt if you plan to keep your cat indoor). But younger people tend to be fine with indoor cats/have them. I myself have an indoor cat and would never let him out. For the ecosystem, but also cause I'd be terrified of him disappearing/getting run over by a car or kidnapped.

[@insu_na]

@@107frenchy yeah, that's what I always say: if you can't properly provide for a cat: don't get a cat

[@juls7403]

Outdoor cats are also a risk to each other, especially unneutered cats. My cat was a stray tomcat for 3 to 6 years (we don't know his age). He was in really bad shape when he was trapped. He's a lot better now, but he still has so many bald patches due to the scarring, most likely injuries from fighting other cats. He really seems to prefer life as an indoor cat. The one time he accidentally got outside, he just waited to be let back in

[@DavidJamesHenry]

A correction here, Phil. The Great Sphinx in Giza commemorates the pharaoh Khafre, not cats. Yes, it depicts Khafre with the body of a lion, but that's not a housecat, and the only reason they gave Khafre a lion's body is because that's what a sphinx is. A mythical creature with a man's head and a lion's body. A better example of Egyptian cat worship is the city of Per-Bast, a center of worship for the cat goddess Bastet, or the Bubasteum, which was a temple for Bastet. Both places featured mummified cats.

[@theofficialobamayoutubecha3846]

A lion is a type of cat

[@thisisforvids]

@@theofficialobamayoutubecha3846 reading and scientific comprehension, go brush up.

[@alejandrogarcia3227]

That's not true. The Sphinx was a lion and it wasn't until after an invasion that the face was carved to make the "sphinx" we know this because the age of the limestone is different

[@DavidJamesHenry]

@@theofficialobamayoutubecha3846 But a lion is not "felis catus" or the domesticated cat

[@DavidJamesHenry]

@@alejandrogarcia3227 I don't know where you heard this, but you're only partially correct. The age of the limestone is different, but it's not true that the statue was originally a lion. It was always a sphinx, but the head and body were built separately and then put together. I went on Wikipedia to check this, and Wikipedia claims that Farouk El-Baz, an egyptian geologist, suggests that the head was actually carved first.

[@Twitch_Fox]

How the f*** does that guy not get jail time for the two previous attempts at kidnapping. Why did it take this third attempt for him to actually be put away?

[@BioshadowX]

Modern DAs and judges

[@esosaimasuen8122]

Because this one was caught on camera

[@Erndea]

Because the justice system does not care about victims.

[@jahliafinney707]

​​@@BioshadowXthis has ALWAYS been an issue here.

[@jahliafinney707]

Our country doesn't take stalking seriously. Same with domestic violence and rape

[@alice12084]

I love phil "on location" He seems more at ease. Makes me forget the world's on fire for a few minutes.

[@ryntintynvin]

Re the abduction story: you KNOW there are people out there going, “If she had just said yes and gone on a couple dates with him, given him a chance, this could have been avoided” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Edit to remove hyperbole because this isn’t actually “the worst part” as I originally said.

[@chrisrubin6445]

thats pretty bad, but I would say the worst thing is the lasting injuries sustained during the rescue. Or the fact that there is a very low chance of the perp getting crushed in a hydraulic press as a punishment.

[@donutchan8114]

Read a comment saying she shouldve had pepper spray or a taser, like ??? Dude came in like a wrecking ball, she didnt even get a chance to open the door to her apartment, where would she get the chance to shoot. Some people🙄

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@jesusrobles-ex9uzCool. Unfortunately what you haven't seen is still happening.

[@zahleyart]

As an Australian cat owner (of an indoor cat) I completely agree with the war on cats. Firstly in Australia specifically we have so many unique small mammals and birds that have never evolved to having that sort of predator around, leaving them extremely vulnerable. Secondly even with the fines for non-neutered cats, people are very lax about getting the surgery done, and often leave it too late or want the cat to have a litter first. My cat's story revealed the dark side of this; her mother was taken in to be de-sexed, and when she was cut open it was revealed she was about 2 days off of giving birth to a litter of kittens. Very luckily the vet was able to do a caesarean and the kittens survived and were taken in by the clinic. I asked the vet and this is apparently really common, though often the kittens aren't able to be saved. Then the kittens were exposed to feline enteritis before they could be vaccinated from cats coming in to the clinic, the litter was incredibly sick and most were lucky to survive. So please when considering getting a cat include the cost of neutering and vaccination into your budget for buying or adopting, and book them in as soon as your cat is old enough for the procedure.

[@jakblue7724]

Bless that mom for putting everything aside & being lucky enough to help her daughter! She is a real life Hero!

[@qt_stacy]

i like that you specified that she was lucky enough to have the opportunity to interfere because that's 100% true. i wonder when she actually started to feel the pain sustained from her very severe injuries especially the skull fracture on her orbital bone.. crazy what adrenaline does for the body when the life of your child is being threatened.

[@BL-li7gg]

I'm so glad you are talking about the cat issue! Thank you! I love cats but we need to be better stewards of not just cats but wildlife by addressing the outdoor cat issue.

[@games4lifefreak]

It needs to become mandatory for schools to teach kids on misinformation and researching for themselves. Far too many people believe things for face value on the internet.

[@booger_8194]

Mad respect to the mom period

[@PrimordialKitten]

Biologist with a sweet kitty here! I love my idiot child and she will never set an adorable paw outside. She lives a rich and fulfilling life inside and I encourage my other cat-loving friends to do the same.

[@Dante.-]

Well, personally I believe that’s animal abuse. Nobody’s gonna miss field mice and ravens/crows going missing 🤷‍♂️.

[@corneliusdinkmeyer2190]

Same! Mines 16 & he’s only been outside on a leash. He loves camping, as long as he can stay in the tent! He’s afraid of birds but likes to watch them thru the window!

[@Moon_x_sun]

Mine is Also an indoor cat tho thats more for her safety dont Think she would be a good hunter (she is scared of many things especially sudden movements) so yeah no need to let her out :)

[@hopelessromantic3786]

​@@Dante.-Leaving your defenseless pet to deal with cars and coyotes is way more abusive.

[@tylociraptor8131]

@@Dante.- Okay, you're an idiot. Ravens and crows are in fact one of the best pest control that exist in our cities. Field mice typically do not enter homes and do not cause harm to human settlements.

[@TheSeanChannel]

"us and cats, we go way back. 10,000 years in fact" absolute fire! Straight bars from Phil 🔥🔥🔥

[@antonionewman4110]

My family and I run a 501c3 nonprofit feline rescue and the level of idiocy you see with people allowing their cats to roam freely in urban areas is ridiculously high. The number of cats I’ve seen struck by vehicles or shot at by asshats with BB and pellet guns is alarming. Doing this work is incredibly difficult and very expensive but we believe we are doing everything we can to make a difference, even if it is minuscule in the larger context. So far we’ve recused over 100 cats and kittens, got all of them spayed and neutered, checked for FIV and adopted many out. We received a new pregnant mother just the other day. It’s a never ending cycle.

[@PrinCesA159]

I live on a very busy state route through one of the busiest tourist destinations in my state. I see cats ran over weekly. One was just smushed by a huge work truck in front of me the other day, I stopped but he was gone. The amount of people posting their missing cats on NextDoor is gross. Oh, also, we are near a nature preserve full of coyotes and there are a lot of farms with roaming dogs (another issue entirely)

[@TheAngelofnv]

​@@PrinCesA159It's quite bad in Las Vegas, NV, as well😢

[@PrinCesA159]

@TheAngelofnv it makes me sick. These people treat cats like they're disposable. I know someone that has had 7 cats in a year and a half because they just let them out as kittens and they disappear or end up dead, but if you suggest they keep their cats inside somehow you end up the bad guy.

[@Pocket_Sized_Satan]

Honestly loveing the back drop behind phil the vines are so aesthetically pleasing. Not that i think the og is bad but idk he seems more relaxed.

[@eryaviel]

I live in an area where hundreds of birds migrate through and cats are such a big problem to them. I love my fluffy monster, and he loves being outside, but it's not worth his health. They live so much shorter lives outside, too - I live in the middle of the city. My compromise? I take my cat out on a leash. He gets full run of my backyard, gets outdoor enrichment, and he doesn't get to kill the birds. It's a win for everyone.

[@yoelolivares6609]

Good Job Mama!!!! Respect.

[@PainxPiss]

RE: the cat story and a message for cat owners I live in the rural Midwest, I’ve always had cats for the almost 30 years I’ve been alive. Please keep them inside not just for the health of your local ecosystem but for your own animal’s safety. Cat lovers can often forget about the pure hatred non-cat lovers have for these animals. I remember when I was in highschool getting rides home from classmates and sitting in the passenger seat in horror as they’d speed up and attempt to hit strays, it happened multiple times (with multiple classmates) and they’d always shrug it off with “what? It’s just a cat who cares?” I’ve known of several people who set out poisoned food bowls on their porches in hopes that they’d kill strays and runaways. This isn’t an isolated incident either, I moved around a lot in my late teens and early 20s, living in four states, and I’d hear of people doing stuff like that in every town I moved to. It’s not a kind world to cats. Please, do all you can to keep your animals safe, warm and loved. I can’t imagine anything that cruel happening to MY cat.

[@Caterfree10]

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[@meowbruhhh4586]

Real. Idk why people have this huge hate for cats. Usually coming from (some) "dog people", non animal people or pet haters

[@quinnmccauley4232]

Keeping a cat inside it's entire life is tantamount to animal cruelty, they will become obese, food addicted, depressed, and nerotic. But letting them out shortens their life and has the potential to decimate local ecosystems. There is no right answer. But don't pretend they are happier inside.

[@dogmantko]

@@meowbruhhh4586 I don't hate the cats. I hate the cat owners that leave their cats outside all day with no thought on the negative impact they have on the surrounding wildlife.

[@meowbruhhh4586]

@@dogmantko same with me, I dont hate dogs. I hate irresponsible dog owners which are unfortunately very common, id argue mire so than cat owners from personal experience. There isn't that many people letting their cats outside. But the people dumping their cats and abandoning them outside and the strays already outside who aren't neutered. Many cat people I know are even actively getting strays neutered. There is work being done, but the covid may have reset the work due to bad owners.

[@emmabritt8114]

As a cat owner and an animal lover, it is important to bring up topics regarding safe and responsible animal ownership. If someone had a pet boa constricter that was allowed to have "outside time", local authorities would be called, so why would you let your cat outside? Why wouldn't you sterilize them? I think a lot of people think that many animals are more wild then they actually are, and use that to push for a certain lifestyle for their pets

[@ashbatz]

Your last sentence is so true. Don't even get me started on all the poor buns that are about to be abandoned after Easter because people think they'll survive outdoors.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

"These mfs are downright genocidal." I mean anyone who read Warrior Cats isn't surprised by this.

[@robinthetactician4649]

As a massive cat lover my baby boy wears a bell collar and walks on a harness with my dog just to make sure of his safety as well as the ecosystem. He is also neutered to prevent breeding at least in case he ever does get out, it really isnt very hard to keep your cat inside/walk them or if you let them out to free roam at least make sure they have a bell to make sure they cant sneak up on prey nearly as easily.

[@sambeawesome]

I don't think it's a huge ask to get your cat spayed/neutered (aside from cost) and keep them inside. I've heard countless stories of people rescuing strays and them adapting to living indoors. It takes time, patience, and a lot of love and care, but it's possible. It's not just safer for the environment, but also for the cats themselves. They are domesticated animals. The fact that people jumped to the conclusion that their cats were gonna be taken away or killed is insane. As a dog lover myself, I know dogs aren't just cute babies but also can be dangerous and aggressive. Cat owners should understand the same for their pets too. Cats are cute, but they also cause a lot of damage. It's not an insult to cats, it's a reality. Keep them inside.

[@Wolffeay]

That mom is incredible, and I'm so glad she was there to help save her daughter. But what I think what that story showcases really well is how SA, kidnapping, sex trafficking, etc.usually is done by someone the victim knows. It's easy to see that clip and see it as a stranger doing this, but no, he KNEW her.

[@corneliusdinkmeyer2190]

And no one in law enforcement took it seriously enough to do anything about it.

[@iamadangovea]

i love the addition of the birds to the background noise!

[@lfrands]

Especially followed by the cat story 🤣

[@nattalete]

I would get annoyed if these are in shows regularly, but I am glad these are probably only going to be in Phil's road shows.

[@linnealager6146]

Unfortunately, I agree with the biologist. We can make a home for our cats inside. Don't let them get injured by cars, humans and other animals. Keep them safe and happy inside.

[@leeminhyung167]

All the recognition for the mom. Also, thank god that man got arrested. Also, idk how you plead not guilty when ur on camera + many witnesses + getting arrested on the spot. Like what’s the argument?!?!?!

[@interlace84]

lovin' the patio content! 👍👍 the soothing sounds of those analog tweets truly help soften the blow of whatever daily depravities are about to unfold

[@johnjalufka2021]

I am sad you’re working on vacation… but I am happy that we still get shows. Internally conflicted.

[@jeraldshaw5233]

Cat owner here, i have two large house cats and they only go outside under supervision. Common misconception is that cats cannot be trained but they absolutely can. I’ve even taken care of a bonus feral cat outside and he doesn’t even hunt birds anymore because i feed him good food. Keep your cats inside, train them and neuter them. Nothings worse than a cat going into heat multiple times a month.

[@sophies9274]

love mommy badass. but that tiny dog was also willing to put its life on the line. what a gorgeous family, god bless

[@darkkit1994]

That tiny dog had no idea what was happening. Dog just wanted to play the new game with the new friend.

[@sophies9274]

@@darkkit1994 i didn't get "new friend play!" vibes at all, although agree the dog had no initial clue about wtf was initially going on (as i also didn't - other than the vid title). while i accept crazy yapping from other dogs when walking my brother's, beautifully uncaring of such nonsense, cockapoo, i still just love the lion's heart in these little beasts

[@christiankettlewell]

The scariest part about the kidnapping is if the city doesn’t do enough to stop that guy now, there’s way too much evidence to suggest that 18yo girl could become a different statistic down the line.

[@Nat_Scribbles]

I’ve been a volunteer at a local cat rescue since 2019, and 100% it’s SO important to spay/neuter your pets. Every cat that comes through our system is fixed before they’re adopted out. Lots of people don’t realize cats can start reproducing as early as 6 months old. They multiply like crazy! Thats why there’s so many in the shelters. TNR is a great option cause it keeps the cats in their colony without adding to colony size. I could go on and on about the benefits of sterilizing your cat and adopting through a shelter or rescue. Thanks for covering this topic!

[@domspoems2124]

I use to always think my father was super strict but this shit happened to him so he made sure I was never out alone and definitely not without protection. I didn’t realize it then but I’m so thankful. Her mama is a true G

[@cholieandresa]

This is my nightmare. I tell my kids to always go together or with someone. Just thinking about it and about parents who have lost children, makes my heart literally break

[@justadatagirl]

Reaction to the War on Cats section- I am always sad to see the amount of cats living out it the wild/street. I am currently feeding two outdoor cats at my apartment complex and I have tried to get people to come out and spay/neuter them, to no avail. I LOVE cats, but so many are left to rot on the street and reproduce freely. I wish apartment/housing communities were REQUIRED to be responsible for the wild animals in the community and those that can be spay/neutered and/or possibly homed. These cats didn’t ask to be on the street, and it’s our responsibility to see that they are taken care of and not causing havoc in the environment OR suffering needlessly.

[@BorksAtBikers]

What's really scary is how differently the first story could have ended merely by a different living environment. Suburban homes have massive interiors & distant neighbors compared to compact, multi-story apartment homes like this in NYC. MULTIPLE neighbors involved & MULTIPLE flights of stairs, and the dude still pulled them outside the building.

[@tomcat5151]

Distant neighbors sounds more rural to me. Suburban areas have yards and neighbors you can talk to over the fence.

[@switchgear100]

@@tomcat5151 yeah but they are still more distant then 5 feet from your door. Unless you make a lot or noise and have curious neighbours they probably won't notice in a suburban setting at night, and if they do maybe one person can show up. In this case they were lucky in that to get out of the building they had to go through 4 floors of neighbours.

[@BorksAtBikers]

​@@tomcat5151compared to 4 flights of stairs directly in front of multiple front doors, on top of foot traffic in and out of those apartments, and on top of foot traffic in front of the city apartment building. Yes even a typical suburban neighborhood is distant compared to this. He could have had her in a car and driving away by the time suburban neighbors were opening their front doors. I'm just noting that this specific scenario took multiple factors in order to stop this poor woman from getting abducted, not including the fact that he's already had 2 previous accounts of trying.

[@Dantalliumsolarium]

Cats are so wonderful and so much safer inside. Safer for them and for every other animal outside. If ya want them to enjoy the outdoors, help them learn to handle harness and take em on walks!

[@TheMetalGaia]

We got our cat during the pandemic. My friend found her outside the factory he worked at. She is the sweetest baby. I never let her outside because I am well aware of the risks with doing so.

[@RamenKitsune]

Philip talks about my cat the way I'd talk about his children. But also, keep your cats inside. Not just because they are killers, but they can be killed and that's tragic.

[@tabithaziol504]

The cardinal crashing the show makes me happy. I attended my grandpas funeral today and they were always his favorite bird ❤

[@wingedyera]

Do you have a time stamp for me? There are no cardinals where I am. I'd love to see it

[@tabithaziol504]

It’s the sound only lol sorry I should’ve been more specific. You can hear it in the background at around 25:00

[@katmorrison6078]

Thank you sooo much for talking about TNR and desexing cats. I volunteered at a cat shelter for a few years and the amount of calls we would get about a litter of kittens and people coming in to drop off cats was unbelievable. It’s also absolutely gutting to get to a site and finding dead kittens around. So many shelters just don’t have the space and many cats and kittens are euthanized every year because there are no resources to care for them. It’s a really sobering and upsetting reality.

[@quinnable8031]

i lived in a rural place throughout high school and we adopted a stray kitten who became an indoor/outdoor cat until recently where we made him an indoor cat. because the place we lived in was kind of janky it was easy for mice, snakes, and even once a skunk to come inside. But most of the time when that happened this cat was literally the last line of defense as he was an excellent mouser and he even tried to fight a 4 foot king snake. i don't know what else he hunted because he only ever brought deer mice

[@cocogoat1111]

First story scares me so much. She was right in front of her door and still got attacked. It's amazing that mom was able to notice and jump into action.

[@eepy_soldier1231]

The birds are literally my favorite part of the show this week! The grass touching is great, Phil!

[@quintusgrobler9088]

"You wouldn't hire a pickpocket to work as a TSA screener" That reporter nailed it.

[@iihh517]

The reporter is Rachel maddow, who is also often accused of twisting the truth. So she is a pickpocket hired to work for TSA

[@EunoiaVVitch]

They should really spread more informations on how getting your pets neutered helps with behavior like aggression, spraying/marking, pets being in heat, legal ramifications if your pet gets someone else’s pregnant or vice versa.