Fiore VS Liechtenauer 2 - Federico Malagutti vs Keith Farrell

[@FedericoMalagutti]

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[@Enchantress546]

German knight fights a guelfi nobleman during the expedition of emperor Charles, 1355 (colorized)

[@narusawa74]

Federico, after watching it again I can really tell that your Fiore is best suited for tall fighters. While your partner being more compact, totally uses the wall of steel of the German system to just move in safely and oppress you. You reach out more and he tanks more. Your height difference really highlight the styles and their differences.

[@samphillips5062]

I really admire the level of control and deliberation in the strokes from the both of you. It's very graceful, and demonstrates the amount of practice you must put in.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Thank You Sam!

[@johnnypopulus5521]

Agreed, the patience shown here is true to the art of both masters. Using the techniques, threatening with guards & recognizing the threat, partying & good cover too. Well done. I'm learning a lot from these videos.

[@kijinseija727]

Wait what? I thought this was a parody of the plays in each treatise because they are just doing as you said

[@johnewen90]

@@kijinseija727 That, hands down, is the best compliment that you can give someone! "Your freeplay is so good I thought that they were choreographed sequences of the plays."

[@flashingsword]

Bravo Federico! This is one of the best HEMA longsword sparring sessions I have seen on KZbin. Many good moves by Keith and yourself.

[@antonioeduardo617]

I agree: in fact

[@levifontaine8186]

This is the longsword I want to see. Controlled and clean. Very nicely done.

[@LisaAnn777]

Controlled and clean yeah, but there's no effort, I would have stomped them while they pu$$y foot around. These two have obviously never fought in a real fight. Weapon or not, they need to show some guts, aggression and control wins fights. I'll bet this is more like how nobles fight, they obviously understand swordsmanship but don't have what it takes to actually put it to use.

[@KoonFox6560]

why dont hollywood filmmakers hire experts like these to choreograph fight scenes?!

[@ianalexander6977]

It’s interesting. In the previous video there were some comments about Kieth being more Meyer than pure Liectenauer. There were also criticisms about not using padding because it meant those Meyer stances like Zornhut weren’t being used because they’re for powering through an opponent, which obviously you can’t do without padding. Add the padding in and the Zornhut’s disappear and Kieth looks a lot less Meyer!

[@kieranlock3070]

Excellent video, i personally prefer Lichtenaur because it is easier to remember the names of everything, but also it seems more attacking. But i started with fiore, i really loved the use of measure from you both!

[@paynesmith3008]

Keith Farrell is extremely talented, and you are too! The Zwerch is impeccable at 1.21, some textbook Fiore plays... Great video.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

thank you!

[@grendelgrendelsson5493]

That was absolutely wonderful. The skill and control were outstanding.Thank you.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Many thanks :)

[@caseydubois3645]

The guy with the blue socks is a master fencer.

[@brittakriep2938]

???

[@Nitram7482]

@@brittakriep2938 he mean that both hare master fencers

[@catsultan949]

I like how they respect the opponents weapon and never over commit an attack

[@hairyviking6047]

Great show from the both of you. I've watched the original countless times as it is a very fine example of the ART of longsword fencing as opposed to a tournament setting. I practice Liechtenauer's tradition under a very good and thorough instructor and I believe that traditional duelling would have looked more like the examples in your two Fiore vs Liechtenauer videos. Awesome job.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Hairy Viking many thanks.

[@narusawa74]

Sportification of an art of killing takes away the soul from it....its a point game, speed and certain victory strikes are key, and a feder isn't really made to bind but more to beat and enter. On the other hand, its hard to stay in control using traditional techniques are they are made to be lethal or really painful targets....needs real proper padings to be safe at full speed with meatier swords. Even a Hanwei hurts like a b.... at full speed !

[@desdicadodog8452]

The footwork here is amazing. That is uneven ground with rocks.

[@JackY-pu5nh]

It’s all about the footwork man, it’s all about the footwork…

[@ossian1977]

The Val is so gorgeous, with the mist and the slopes. Feels like an idyllic place, where one day orcs show up to disturb the peace, looking for a "precious thing", but there is ONE swordsman in the valley who won't let them miscreants have it their way

[@germanolivares7072]

Nice, I really like to see more experienced people doing sparring or practicing, I'm learning Fiore but a lot of stuff is new for me.

[@KalteGeist]

Beautifully executed. Would love to see more Fiore practitioners at the larger tournaments.

[@carmenbannerman1056]

Beautiful swordmanship. A pleasure to watch!

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Carmen Bannerman thank you!

[@darylhatheway5347]

I like the elegant movement through the wards to provoke an attack or opening in the opponent. It showed the art of swordsmanship! Well done gentlemen.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Thank you :)

[@jamesdeek7039]

One of my favorite videos out there. The footwork the guy in blue has is solid. The music pulls you in. It really cemented me wanting to learn as my new resolution

[@flintrocks]

Most impressive.

[@omari2306]

1:27 excellent slight movement of hand to deviate that lunge.

[@stewartgaudin2023]

A joy to watch.

[@michayahjwalker3349]

Thank for the quick reply

[@narusawa74]

1:33. Whooooooohhhhh! You should make a video about the height difference and how to compensate when you fight a long limbed guy like you, Federico, or my even taller teacher...

[@bluesoul7163]

The only strange thing is the Italian is in grey and german in azzurro lol

[@IndigoXYZ18]

Seeing improvements.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

IndigoXYZ18 eheh!!

[@funnysecksnumber6998]

9:06 that exchange looks like something out of Joachim Meyer's longsword. We practice mixed german longsword in our club, we have Lichtenaur, Meyer, and Ringeck. And im just going to say what i love about each style: Meyer has the best flow, the cuts and transitions just run beautifully, Ringeck's simplicity and movement is top notch quality, its a full body exercise, and Lichtenaur is just disciplined strokes, polished and tactical, no wasted swings. i dont know a whole lot about italian longsword, i just know that the names of things are hard as fuck to remember, and a lack of thumb grip action going on, also as far as i can tell it seems to be more free flowing than the german styles.

[@alexhunt7810]

Meyer is basically a compilation of all forms of cut fencing from earlier traditions

[@marcodegiovanni3696]

Da Italiano forse sono un po' di parte... Ma per me Fiore è sempre una garanzia.. Meno estetico o complesso forse ma assolutamente efficace

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Io trovo entrambe molto attraenti in termini schermistici. Preferisco Fiore un po' per campanilismo e un po' per l'amore per la semplicità.

[@taylorahern3755]

Amazing, flawless & spectacularly professional💯👍 Hollywood take note/notice!

[@tomdutoit5591]

Bravo! Control and, when necessary, power. Rare and wonderful. Wish I had half the skill of either one of you...

[@LifestyleLabUK]

Did Keith stop intentionally at 1:22 (not to smash Federico's occipital bone even with all the BoH protector) or was it just not enough momentum in Zwer?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

He probably put lesser power in it in the ending part, to be sure I would not be in danger. Keith in general have an astonishing control both int erms of putting a lot of power when he want and vice versa.

[@jufrijaafar9056]

That is awesome Federico 😯😯👍👍👍 May i know, 1. What is the brand of sword you use and where did you buy it? 2. Is that a blunted sword or it is feder?

[@funnysecksnumber6998]

liechtenaur's entire point is doing weird wacky longsword that no one else would expect guess it works

[@FedericoMalagutti]

PEE IS STORED IN THE BALLS ahahahahah! Well as a Fiore practitioner I would say that this is almost true. LoL

[@rostritter4926]

That was so cool!

[@MrKanrabat]

You guys are good. Thanks for the vids

[@JamrockHobo]

How long are the swords you are using there?

[@iggyvontwitch1969]

Very well done gentlemen! I noticed the Fiorist likes to hang out in Brava, I'm curious if there's any particular reason or if it's just a favorite of yours?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Iggy VonTwitch thank you. My fencing changed a lot in this year and a half, anyway I like to sit in porta di ferro mainly. And sometimes in breve

[@sacredxgeometry]

I know this video isn't new, but please tell me where you got those knee pads! Whomakes them? They look awesome. I need a pair.

[@vicentediaz448]

I wanna see against the meyer's system, will be very cool to appreciate it Edit 1: if Fiore and Johannes see this video, i don't have any idea that's said, this a good work

[@jamesdeek7039]

I don't know much about hema bit I can tell blue over there had solid legwork and reaction

[@zerozerosud]

1:18

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Yes, i loved it even when i've received it. :)

[@KKRCeb]

textbook absetzen at 4:31! (or is it more of a schielhau?)

[@TBoneHEMA]

I think that's a schielhau. Keith is very good at those.

[@michayahjwalker3349]

Is the guy in blue practicing lichtenauer?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Michayah J Walker yes

[@eddard9442]

Beautiful fencing and also beautiful location, is this Italy?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Yes, Piedmont

[@eddard9442]

@Federico Malagutti thank you, next time when I travel from Australia, I have to visit Northern Italy, I had no idea it was so beautiful.

[@rallics]

Fiore would in my thinking be the more refined style. But both are grate.

[@jean-louisboudreau3643]

There is barelly any of the wrestling play and you where often close enough. Is there a reason ? Am I missing something ?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Jean-Louis Boudreau hi!! Mainly two things: stones and gravels on the floor and speaking about me as for any other human being there are things which I’m better at and other which I’m still not good enough to put out against opponent of a certain level. Thanks ;)

[@umartdagnir]

What kind of gloves are you using?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Old Arcensis gloves. I think are out of production since 2015-16... But I'm not sure, you cans earch for them on google.

[@planetbobful]

When are we getting the play-by-play voice over? ;)

[@FedericoMalagutti]

planetbobful I like the play by play “skall mode” but the problem I feel for now is simply that I speak English still too slowly :/ but someday I will try ofc!

[@thrownswordpommel7393]

Fallo in italiano e poi aggiungiaci "english subtitles"

[@BeinlausiMentegh]

@@FedericoMalagutti I know it's a year late, but I could do the voice over for you.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

@@BeinlausiMentegh Thank you Augustus for your kind offer! But I have to deny because I have other projects in mind for the future and, funny enough, compared to my actual fencing the quality of my exchanges is quite low in this video, so commenting them would be quite hard, funny enough! But thank you again!

[@BeinlausiMentegh]

@@FedericoMalagutti no worries bro.

[@verfugbarkite]

I’d be curious to see what impact medieval footwear has on hema.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

It’s a discussion which goes on since 10-15 yers, hehe. Anyway many people already worked extensively on the subject. kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7CpGhvhJV0bJo

[@verfugbarkite]

@@FedericoMalagutti thanks 👍

[@VectorBlade9001]

Awesome! What brand of swords are you both using?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Two old Regenyei customs that i bought four years ago, but now are slightly falling into pieces and I will have to change them in a few months.

[@catex5452]

what swords are you using?

[@jarudesandstorm6961]

What was the end score? to the untrained eye i cant tell, there are some i thought one of them won with a body shot only to find out the other won with a strike to the hand haha

[@kurtschlichting1903]

No attacks against the legs.

[@alfatazer_8991]

What gloves do you use? Keith's using Sparring Gloves but I've never seen yours before.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Old Arcensis gloves. I think are out of production since 2015-16... But I'm not sure, you cans earch for them on google. (sorry fore the copy/paste!)

[@totalwarperspectives9872]

They’re secretly Ozpin’s relics. And you’ll never get your hands on them, Cinder 😈

[@korearoughterrainchannel4104]

Super

[@sithdarkness6972]

So much energy expanded 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@hschan5976]

How tall are you Federico?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

190 centimeters :-)

[@day7141]

Meanwhile, KZbin is telling me that I am a failure. LMAO!

[@Verithiell]

"Never give up" What about yielding though?

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Ahahhahahaha! Sometimes may be usefull yes!

[@arthurfranckevicius1621]

Does anyone knows the average lenths and widths of the parts of those swords? I practice swordplay boffering and I'd like to make a sword that's similar (considering sizes) to an average two- handed sword.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Arthur Franckevicius in the section “Sword Reviews” of my blog you may find some info and photos fedemalablog.wordpress.com/

[@arthurfranckevicius1621]

I'm aware it has many different aspects from HEMA, or HMB, but it's cheap, reasonably safe and fun

[@arthurfranckevicius1621]

It could be. But for example the group I practice barely has a background we just train using the rules.

[@arthurfranckevicius1621]

We use the combat system and fight. 1x1, groups, they are tournaments held by groups here, se those so we can train specific games, but mainly it's combat with the rules. No hits on head, neck, genitais, or women breasts. 2 life points. Each arm ir leg counts as 1 point, and If they are hit we can't use them. The leg rule hás variations from group to group. Chest or back 2 points. And we train being better at it.

[@arthurfranckevicius1621]

Beating a spearman only using a 90cm sword for example tales some practice. And it's still exercise. Still good to practice, some things change from HEMA or HMB, because of the rules or the material, but some aspects still remain. And I van spend It would be 35 reais here and participante with my own well made foam sword

[@knight1506]

I'm a fan of Keith now

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Damn! I have to fight against lesser cool fencer to increase the number of my fans. Ahahahahhaa

[@samuvahakangas4895]

Which is which?

[@RagPlaysGames]

Grey is Fiore. Blue is Liechtenauer.

[@treygrimm9689]

really cool)

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Trey Grimm :D

[@treygrimm9689]

Federico Malagutti I really like styles of both masters, but prefer Lieghtenauers) Kinda more aggressive, I think, even u are fighting as a 2nd position)

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Yes you are right, there is more focus on keeping the initiative on Liechtenauer. I tend to be a bit more "defensive" in general, even if i'm working on my aggressive side too in the last months. But I prefer Fiore also for this motivation! Thanks for your comments ;)

[@treygrimm9689]

thank You, for the video and for motivation, my friend) From Russia with love!)

[@MichaelGittel]

Gibts nen grund warum ihr mit ner stechklinge hiebe ausführt? Da habt ihr den ollen talhoffer aber falsch interpretiert. Die stechen mehr.

[@Ombradivolpe]

Bellissimi

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Ombradivolpe grazie!!!

[@solidsnake7444]

Che spada è!??

[@leviethen]

But who won haha

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Ben engledow LOL

[@thrownswordpommel7393]

The guy with the longsword.

[@fioredeiliberi9552]

It‘s not Fiore vs. Liechtenauer but Federico vs Keith. The quality and experience of the fencer decides

[@omari2306]

Keith is good.

[@Vondanzigkungfu]

A fairly equal fight. But if someone knew the renaissance technique taught by Hutton in 1892 it would be a pretty one sided affair.

[@LaurAgony]

Looks staged.

[@FedericoMalagutti]

Ahahahahahah!

[@stewartgaudin2023]

A joy to watch.