Feds to Return $43K They 'Robbed' from Woman at Airport - Ep. 7.126

[@r.a.monigold9789]

2012 ALMOST happened to me as I flew from one city to another with $30k cash in my pocket to buy my "Dream Ride". Cash Only deal on a Sunday. TSA person asked me to empty my pockets and there was the cash. Just as he went for it while beginning to explain why it would no longer be mine - BIG COMMOTION involving wrestling with a traveler 2 stalls over. This guy BOLTED toward the action. I hollered "Can I go?". He gave me a fast thumbs up, never missing a step. I arrived with the cash and I still have my Dream Ride. But this story gives me shivers from the "what if" part of my brain...

[@userac-xpg]

you got lucky, that money was gone until that fight. For future reference don't keep the cash in your pocket, tape it to the inside of your leg or some other part of your body under your clothes. Unless they do a pat down they wont find it.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

@@userac-xpg I know that now! Dang, hard to believe I was THAT naive

[@RogerWKnight]

I wonder if the commotion due to some other TSA puke grabbing someone's cash and that someone decided to contest the grab?

[@MmeHyraelle]

Dodged a bullet. For sure.

[@youtubehatesfreedom1870]

It's sickening that the government thugs can do this it's time we the people defend OUR RIGHTS AND THAT INCLUDES DEATH TO THESE GOVERNMENT TRAITORS on the spot if necessary for us to keep our property and our rights it's the only way this crap will stop if they start to die on the spot for trying to steal our stuff

[@GeorgeWMays]

Another black eye for law enforcement.... This kind of thing needs to be fixed NOW.

[@Wraithsong]

this kinda thing should never have been allowed in the first place. the fact that it is now endemic to law enforcement practices through the US is appalling.

[@CheekyMonkey888]

pretty sure they ve run out of eyes to blacken

[@tommercer3226]

This would be the real defund the police

[@GeorgeWMays]

@@tommercer3226 HaHa. You got that right. It's a shame when you think about the effective and well-run police departments across America. Their profession is besmirched by ill tempered, poorly trained, and mismanaged departments.

[@garettanderson6772]

Biden will make it even worse.

[@sdnlawrencej5662]

There is a video about the lady depositing cash for her dad on youtube but basically she visited her dad, who was in his 80's and didn't trust banks, on Sunday she was getting ready to leave and her dad brought an envelope of cash that he had stashed in his basement and asked her to take care of it. She called airport, explained situation and they told her no problem but when she got to airport, they interviewed her several times, called her dad and confirmed the story; but they just decided they didn't like that story and stole the money at the last minute before her flight was called.

[@mrdeleted]

Sad

[@xonx209]

Of course the airport would tell her to bring cash. Any law that can be abused will be abused.

[@dianemilligan3839]

Same thing happened to a nurse in Houston who was traveling overseas to open a free clinic. She is also a client of the same legal organization and filed a class-action suit; thankfully, she got the money back. As for attorney's fees, that should come out of the paychecks of every single DEA agent or other LEO involved. Let them hurt for awhile.

[@larryforeman7157]

Oklahoma amended its law in 2015 to allow judges to award attorney fees to people whose assets were found to be unjustly seized by law enforcement. Arizona has a similar provision in its comprehensive 2017 law.

[@rockym2931]

Good for them both!

[@Cincinnatijames]

If they tie asset forfeiture to criminal convictions expect a lot more innocent people to have drugs planted on them.

[@abcusa123mich]

The fix should also be that any collected assets go to the next higher (at least) level of Government, up to the Michigan General fund. Or the value of any seized assets be subtracted from any government funding of the organization.

[@cedricbillingsley3960]

That's definitely worse. It also effectively eviscerates justice.

[@duffahtolla]

How about if they tie it to criminal convictions and then require that the seized cash be donated to random 501c (not 501c3) charities?

[@cedricbillingsley3960]

@@duffahtolla that...is a sensible idea, but it may prompt ambitious fraudsters to put themselves on the receiving end of that money. Still, your idea would effectively disincentivize the authorities to act as thugs.👌

[@PC-vx6ko]

That idea has been around for a long time too. Even before the war on drugs, feds and cops have been seizing money after they plant evidence.

[@domfer2540]

My wife and I used to travel between many countries. I have flown from Japan to Germany though the U.S. and we used to carry cash in 4 or 5 different currency at one tine. This was when we had no checking account or credit cards and lived on cash when we travel. I am glad there was not homeland security . We paid for or expenses, rent a place to live, buy a vehicle and pay for every expenses that is involved in a move. If DEA had this power decades ago, they would have broke us. We feel safe to travel in other countries, we do not feel safe traveling with big brother searching and controlling our moves and what we travel with. When homeland security started, we stopped traveling by air.

[@alansmith4734]

Sadly, if she had a Service Dog with her, the Feds would have shot it and claimed it barked at them!

[@tybrady1935]

If we could sue for damages and attorneys fees, this illegal practice would stop!

[@marks814]

Taxpayers, that is You and Me, pay those damages and attorney fee's. You need to sue the Individual Officer to get justice. Qualified Immunity helps these Officers avoid Justice.

[@chitlitlah]

Taxpayers don't pay it unless the budget is increased for the bureau specifically to pay the lawsuits. Otherwise they just get to use less of their budget for other things, and they won't like that.

[@HH-ru4bj]

@@marks814 QI is supposed to protect authorities against honest mistakes, but it's used as a license to do whatever they want. The alternative is without qualified immunity, cops probably wouldn't take necessary initiatives where time could be a factor.

[@brucesim2003]

Why can't the victims sue for interest? It is essentially a forced loan, assuming they get the money back.

[@chitlitlah]

@@HH-ru4bj Right. Qualified immunity should be void in situations resulting from intent or gross negligence. It's sad that our legislators care so little for us peasants that they won't fix such issues.

[@garymartin9777]

Government agencies should be required to return treble the amount seized if they can't justify the seizure with solid evidence -- not just rank suspicion.

[@Unsensitive]

That would just be a tax on the people. Instead, I'd argue, they are not performing their jobs, nor acting as a public agent when they confiscated, aka stole, the money. Since the confiscation was not part of their duties, hold the individuals criminally responsible. The practice would end really fast .

[@noahellis3672]

I've heard of several people who had their money robbed from them... excuse me, "confiscated under civil forfeiture" from them. One guy who was traveling to another state to buy a classic motorcycle had his $20,000 taken from him at the airport. I still haven't heard if he got any of that back. With police departments needing all the support that they can get these confiscations do nothing but further the anger at police.

[@larryforeman7157]

Yes, the police wonder why they don't get more public support. Well, they earn the hate one civil rights violation at a time.

[@mikeb5352]

How much of the police budget goes to pensions? They should have to fund their own retirement like pretty much everyone else does. That goes for all government employees.

[@Trickinum]

There is also a significant drop in the amount of asset forfeiture in places that do NOT allow the law enforcement to keep portions of the seizure... I'm sure that's just a coincidence though.

[@stevef68]

There is a news station in Tennessee that did a series on Civil Asset Forfeiture called "Policing for Profit"- it's here on KZbin. They had a dedicated group of officers that would pull over anyone from out of state and seize whatever cash they found.

[@larryforeman7157]

Yes, they even doled out sections of highway for agencies (e.g., county sheriffs) who didn't border the highway. Then they split the proceeds. Blatant criminality

[@tommercer3226]

Yes. I've seen the series. Pathetic.

[@nocturnalmayhem0]

and thats why you dont go into that backwoods cousin marrying state, tn is a dump with the policies to match

[@jona5165]

When are they going to return it and how many hoops is this poor lady going to have to jump through.

[@NYOB0001]

I had seen Steve's previous videos on this subject. So I was aware of the issue when I had to pick up $15,000 in cash from the coroner's office from a deceased relative. You can be sure I drove extra carefully to the nearest bank.

[@Robert-yc9ql]

Remove the incentive, the problem goes away.

[@ianbattles7290]

Start seizing the vehicles of cops/judges/senators BASED ON MERE SUSPICION OF SOME UNSPECIFIED ILLEGAL ACTIVITY and watch Civil Asset Forfeiture get outlawed by tomorrow.

[@edwardwinkler7257]

Thanks for posting everything you find about Civil Asset Forfeiture. It is a blight on the foundation of our freedoms that this can even happen. Any legislators that support it, should have it happen to them.

[@tman1129]

Having interned at the Wayne County CAF division, I can confidently tell you the ability to take property without reasonable suspicion SHOULD BE ILLEGAL! Thanks for continuing to run these forfeiture stories! Doubtful it will happen in the next few years though.

[@sittingindetroit9204]

Few years back there was an elderly couple in a small town who ran the general store for decades. As was their practice for years, once a week they would go and deposit the weekly sales at the bank which usually ran in the $6k to $9k per week. The IRS came in and seized all the money in their bank accounts because they suspected "structuring" which is making a series of deposits under $10k to bypass the bank reporting laws. No charges were ever filed and as in this case, the federal government said, sue us if you want it back. A lot of the time the government agency, when they know there is no evidence will then try to negotiate to only giving you back part of it.

[@toshayonguard4253]

There just a bunch of Criminal’s with a Badge.

[@ianbattles7290]

What's the difference between a criminal and a cop? It's legal to resist when a criminal tries to take your money.

[@donaldfrapwell4116]

Steve, you mentioned Institute for Justice a couple of times in this vlog. Why not let people know they can help fight Civil Asset Forfeiture by donating to the people that fight it?

[@sidharthchand8072]

I’m glad you and John Oliver Are bringing light to this injustice

[@Sauceyjames]

I liked John until I found him to be a corporate stooge.

[@garycurry4600]

I live near Tampa, and this was the lead story a few nights ago. Thanks to your channel, I’ve gotten an extensive education on Civil Asset Forfeiture. Thank you for continuing to share this information with us. bTW, where is Turkey Elbow, KY? 🤣

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Law Enforcement Officers at EVERY level should be utterly ashamed... They owe a lot more to the Civilians then just an,,, 'OK, you can have your money back THIS time', attitude... Our "heroes" in Blue have a habit of intruding in your life, for no good reason, bringing hardship and suffering... being rewarded for it,,, and never enduring a negative consequence

[@jamesries5534]

IF they are "heroes in blue(like you say)" AND/OR intrude on your life.......... They "are not 'heroes in blue' in my book. "Zeros in blue" and that is being nice calling them zeros.

[@douglasrowland3722]

THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GET PEOPLE KILLED. SOMEbody with either too much, or nothing to lose, will explode and kill right there on site, one of these times !!!! That won't do THEM any good....but this has to be stopped !!!!

[@Hal-Robinson]

I live in Tampa I remember hearing on the news about this case when it happened thank you for providing an update on the end of it

[@robbennett2829]

The “ War on drugs “ is an abysmal failure. BTW, it’s not Turkey Elbow, KY, it’s actually Rooster Run, KY😁

[@HH-ru4bj]

Still not as good as gobble cock or mianus

[@tommercer3226]

What size is their police department?

[@davids7550]

I thought it was Rooster Nuggets, KY.

[@ralfie8801]

It ranks right up there with Chicken Gristle Bend on the Brazos River.

[@timm1583]

Listen no one gives drugs the credit they deserve for winning the war 🤣

[@billconley4239]

The Supreme court MUST look at this issue!

[@larryforeman7157]

I'm sure they have. They think it's fine.

[@ajkendro3413]

They have not seen a Civil Asset Forfiture case based on the 14th amendment (Due Process). Usually what happens is if there is a challenge a long those lines the money is returned before it gets to court. In the Tombs v. Indiana case the case evolved around excessive fines. The asset was valued at $40,000 and the fine was only $10,000. Clarence Thomas said he would like to see a case based on Due Process but one hasn't reached the SCOTUS yet. This was back around March 2019.

[@billconley4239]

@@ajkendro3413 Civil is a 4th amendment taking.

[@ajkendro3413]

@@billconley4239 You're right. I was thinking of another post for voting.

[@Noneofyourbusness]

Once again, you nailed it. Happen to me in Dallas as custom and Border protection at the gate search my carry on for cash they kept asking me for my employment status,place of living and so many other questions I just stood for my right and stated “I do not concentrate to a search without a warrant and I don’t answer questions “ Lucky me nothing to serious to report, 20 minutes later I was on my way.

[@timhawks6101]

What does "concentrate" to a search mean?

[@commonsense6839]

I love your passion for civil asset forfeiture

[@dspear]

Same. I first found him on the Indiana v Tibbs case. Was very fun to follow

[@tortoisehead30]

Imagine being one of the goons that actually confiscates the money. How do they sleep at night?

[@jeffdavis4435]

Those people don't think like we do. They work for the government: great pay, great benefits, health care, vacation time, retirement provided for. They see "you" as "them". You're not part of their gang. We The People are a resource to be harvested.

[@bobbylittle6996]

It's just a job to them. In their mind set "You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette." Plus they have to deal with society criminals, and forget how to treat honest people.

[@audiewilliams3417]

Can you sue for defamation if they call you a drug smuggler. You seized my money for being the fruit of drug smuggling, that is the same as calling me a drug smuggler.

[@pubcollize]

You can sue for it but you'll lose

[@eldiablo7862]

I remember getting a strange look from TSA in Tampa on my way to New York. He patted me down and asked what are the objects in my pockets. I told him money and he had me take it out, his eyes bugged out when he saw stacks of new $100 bills. He asked what was it for and I told him I was on my way to purchase a couple of machine guns, he stopped abruptly and I was on my way.....The return trip wasn't as smooth as I had to deal with the Port Authority Police at JFK airport.

[@rockym2931]

You just knew the creation of a new government department was NOT to keep travelers safe.

[@terrymiller552]

More than a century ago they were called “Highwaymen “ not federal officers. Oh, and the Margarita machine manufacturers would suffer if you changed the law and said they couldn’t keep the money.

[@joshuamidgette4846]

Another example, after major hurricanes cash is king. The difference is probably that whoever tried civil asset forfeiture at the time everyone is carrying cash will probably not make it back to the station.

[@larryforeman7157]

Eleven states-California, Connecticut, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oregon and Vermont-require a criminal conviction (proof beyond a reasonable doubt) to engage in some or all forfeiture proceedings. California, Iowa and Ohio exclude property valued under a certain amount from the criminal conviction requirement. North Carolina, New Mexico and Nebraska have abolished civil forfeiture entirely.

[@reginaschellhaas1395]

Yay, North Carolina! Thanks for outlining this, by state.

[@isaacbobjork7053]

Robbed is the right word. Legal robbery.

[@GySgt_USMC_Ret.]

5:34 60,668 miles on a 2012 Silverado. Had 58,838 miles on it when I bought it over 2 years ago. Fair winds and following seas to all.

[@mudpuddle8805]

Outstanding show. Thanks Steve!

[@tumblebugspace]

"Identifying" cash like that as proceeds from a drug sale is an equivalent of "I smelled marijuana." We've *gotta* end the "War on Drugs" people!

[@timm1583]

It is over drugs won every single battle

[@johnmcgrath3466]

Steve is great keep going never stop.

[@bobdevreeze4741]

I guess as a Canadian I am lucky. We have asset forfeiture. But it is a criminal charge, Possession of assets obtained by crime. If your guilty they can take your stuff .

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

Might want to look again. Seems it’s just like the US . And BC being the worst of them.

[@userac-xpg]

how would they know you are guilty until after an investigation and trial? Sounds like you'd have to prove your innocence to get your money back

[@mikeymaiku]

Sadly you still can have money taken at a airport. Had cops pull me off to question why i had 10k for a 3 month trip overseas . Legit held for hours that they didnt beleive me it cost 10k to live overseas for 3 months

[@derek7713]

LAND of the FREE!!!!. I'm still waiting for the punch line.

[@joopterwijn]

@05:35,... 😂 when you pointed and asked I told my self 348.348 Kilometers, because I saw this turning today I knew!

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

Even crazier is that asset forfeiture is supposed to take I'll gotten gains from criminals. Meanwhile actual convicted criminals are routinely ordered by a judge as part of their sentence to pay restitution to victims but restitution is not enforced. So, you have people and businesses owed money due to crime, and a pot of money collected via seizure when law enforcement suspects money might be unlawfully obtained. So instead of taking the unlawfully obtained money and giving it to the victims our government uses that money for a slush fund and tells victims to try collecting from someone in prison or doesn't have the means to reimburse their victims. Almost makes me think the government is not even attempting to appear to serve the public good.

[@JoeKyser]

There are some wicked CAF cases out there. Cases that are just unbelievable

[@ianbattles7290]

How does ANYONE have ANY property rights if the government can sue YOUR PROPERTY ITSELF???

[@JoeKyser]

@@ianbattles7290 its because the property rights are not what one may think they are. There is no such thing as being free and having rights. Your awarded a fallacy in life. Its perception manipulation.

[@ncplantdoctor]

Good video; you snuck an “escheat” into it. Word power.

[@GHdave0113]

Liked, and shared, because awareness is the first step to changing this. Not enough people know about this.

[@cedricbillingsley3960]

It seems the TSA is used as the scout for the other agencies.

[@groermaik]

Hundo, unfolded, on top of volume 1 of the OED in the first shelf of the left OED case. 621.

[@yadayada752]

3rd 😎🎈🥂

[@donadkins9742]

There's a "Turkey Foot" recreation area in Kentucky. One of my favorite places in the world!!

[@glovishowell7794]

You are correct, Steve. This message needs to be sent to the lawmakers repeatedly, on a regular basis. They don't know if we don't tell them. You write the message, I'll volunteer to help by sending it (email) every week to whomever you suggest within reason. I'm 78 years old and can't email more than a million or two per week. OK? Ask for others to help and we'll see how far we can go toward righting this wrong. I live in Carrollton, Ga. Let me know. Thanks.

[@Paul-ey8nh]

We are out of here !!!!!! Good luck Steve ///// You are Great

[@donarnold8268]

Thank You & Ms. Heather! Posting on Facebook...

[@websterbarstone]

This is my favorite Steve Lahto video so far.

[@FrancisBeanBlades]

If this were a bill being debated in a legislative forum, I'd offer up one friendly amendment to switching wholly to criminal asset forfeiture requiring a conviction. The reason this cropped up so much in recent decades was the war on drugs; the notion that the criminals who owned the money were in jurisdictions we couldn't touch. We can still keep that aspect by adding a subsection that the forfeiture requires criminal charges, and giving a timeframe -- say, one year -- in which the owner has to appear in court to dispute the charges, or the forfeiture goes through even without a conviction. Personally, I'd go a lot further: I want a US Constitutional amendment barring any "for profit" incentives in any aspect of our criminal justice system. No more profiteering from asset forfeiture, no more for-profit prisons, etc.

[@TEverettReynolds]

Let me offer a different angle to this and tell me how you would proceed: The police are watching someone they strongly believe to be a drug dealer. He has recently bought a $1M house, he has a $500,000 sports car, he buys expensive clothes, he pays for everything in cash, but he has no job, pays no taxes, and is never the one who gets busted with drugs on him. This is the situation that Civil Asset Forfeiture was created for. The police do not have enough legal proof for a conviction, beyond a reasonable doubt, or even probable cause for an arrest. This evidence as I described to you, does not even meet Reasonal Suspicion levels for a legal detainment. These were the types of assets that were confiscated in the 80's when these laws got created. Today... In Philadelphia, the average amount of a Civil Asset forfeiture case is $300... just a poor man's paycheck. How do you still allow the police to confiscate the big assets, without hurting the little guy?

[@FrancisBeanBlades]

@@TEverettReynolds I'm not sure I agree that this is what CAF was created for, but that's outside the policy discussion you're raising. For your hypothetical, I'd be comfortable letting it fall to the police (and a probable referral to the IRS!) to pursue the suspect. The police can surveil and eventually get their evidence; the IRS can pursue the tax issues on undeclared income. The odds are very, very strong that they can catch our putative dealer at some point. And at the end of the day, if they can't find the evidence? I'd rather let a very few criminals go free than penalize lots of the innocent. That's a policy trade-off and greatly a matter of subjectivity, but it's the point on the spectrum where I'd design the law if I had the authority.

[@Kypotter]

Gotta love the commitment! @stevelehto you should do a compilation video of all your edits! That would probably be very entertaining!!

[@hickory572]

Steve this has happened to me once. The cop flat out told me if i did not look like a drug dealer then he would have never stoped me. He took 4,000 in cash and what i would have priced at 10,000 in old and rare coins from me. Told me if i did not like it to do something about it. At the time i was 25 what did i know. After a few months of fighting i got most of every thing back. There where a few coins missing. I was told they must have fell out sorry. You have to be a law maker to write a law. Oh wait get the government to write a law that stops them from getting free money are you nuts. It will never happen. You know how to word laws why dont you write one and take it to your state rep and see what you get. I dare you

[@Mnrichard2]

Ben is on the OED Vol I

[@yadayada752]

1st 🏁🏆🎯

[@shekharmoona544]

Politicians will side with authoritarianism than the individual liberties of the people.

[@tommercer3226]

Ain't this the truth.

[@cedricbillingsley3960]

We have ongoing evidence that shows your conclusion is true.

[@troodon1096]

Politicians will side with whoever they think will allow them to keep their job. Sometimes that is the people (sadly not always, but in a democracy there's a better chance of it).

[@kevinwolf959]

if some one sues and wins then lawyer fees and all of the other stuff should come out of that departments operating budget.

[@harveywallbanger1738]

4:09 I thought the government could 'disrupt organized crime' by simply arresting, convicting, and imprisoning... But I guess there's no money for them that way. Grrr

[@marks814]

"The War on Drugs is a War on the People!" - C.A.

[@TheTechiemoses]

It was admitted to bring more of terrorism or a hate crime. As it was politically motivated to silence political opposition to Nixon, both hippies (anti-war) and blacks (Democrats). Heads should roll.

[@ABT212]

I love how in old movies, they would know which men were spies by the fact they didn't know who won the World Series. "But I don't follow baseball..." "Shut up, spy."

[@troodon1096]

Reminds me of a movie where Russians were posing as US soldiers. When they named their unit, the person commented that unit was from Chicago. "So you must have seen the Cubs play..." MST3K commentary "Um, yeah, they won!" "Nice try, commie."

[@TechViewOpinions]

I agree with your assessment of making criminal asset forfeiture law and eliminate the current robery situation.

[@johnstack5008]

I wonder if they will start waiting outside casinos looking for people carrying cash.

[@seeigecannon]

I bought a forklift from an auction about a year ago and was worried about carrying around $7000 in cash for this very reason. I even had the invoice in the same envelope where the cash matched to the penny and I was still nervous about it. It is pretty bad when I am more nervous about the cops than I was being robbed by a proper (non-badged) criminal.

[@armchairwarrior963]

I travel with a friend once, we both had a few hundred grand to a house auction. We never been to one before. We only realize it later you can get a bank check too LOL. The bank tellers were giving us weird looks taking all that money in cash.

[@stevebigfoot8864]

Steve, I'm glad to see this makes you as angry as it does me. Even with criminal asset forfeiture, the money should not go to the agency pressing charges. I, personally, would like to see it go to a victim's compensation fund, but never a windfall for an agency charged with protecting the public. All the costs of prosecution of the crime were borne by the public.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Seizures with charges filed, and forfeiture on conviction? That makes legal sense, only if those assets are returned WITHOUT PENALTY upon acquittal. "Gimme your car and the money in your wallet." is robbery, with or without a badge.

[@simonesmit6708]

Where I would go for roadtrips in the US when I was in my 20s, I was always asked how I would pay for the trip. Now I know why.

[@jacqueslefave4296]

Another reason not to fly. I haven't done it in ten years. For short haul flights, with all the security delays, it's better to drive.

[@danielwardin4688]

East Jesus, Pennsylvania... Bumfuck, Egypt... And now, Turkey Elbow, Kentucky ('bout seventy miles Southwest of Frankfurt, I reckon). This show is so educational. Thanks.

[@brucelong9833]

I never noticed anything that would need to be edited out. Good job and good story,

[@sjgavenger37]

I 100% agree with you on giving names. The names are irrelevant.

[@datasailor8132]

Just go to a local bank and get a cashier’s check. Another story. My late wife’s brother lived in the San Francisco area and worked for Pacific Gas and Electric. Once he came back east on a gas buying trip. He dropped by and had dinner with us since we hadn’t seen him for quite a while. After dinner he pulled an envelope and showed us a check for $500 million dollars. We asked if that wasn’t dangerous. No, he said, who would cash a random check for this amount? The people I’m seeing are expecting this.

[@jamesrobins1096]

Cashiers check ? Got a drawer full of them. Put an ad on Craigslist and start a collection of your own.

[@peregrine1970]

How has the scotus not ruled against this?!

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

Consistency How many takes does it take for Steve to make his take on the Governments take of taking assets

[@fountainvalley100]

Want to end asset forfeiture fast? Require a court hearing within in two weeks and require the government to pay 20% interest from the minute the money is seized.

[@larryforeman7157]

Some states require that you file a protest within as little as 20 days. Some states require that a protesting citizen post a bond covering a portion of the assets seized.

[@grantyboy0311]

Love the show.

[@timkaldahl]

Criminal asset forfeiture will lead to a lot more innocent people facing false charges.

[@jquest43]

No charges They just take your money

[@ralfie8801]

jquest43 He was referring to what Steve said about tying all asset forfeiture to a criminal activity and a conviction. If you tie the forfeiture to those things, there will be more incentive to falsely prosecute and convict people in an effort to keep the money.

[@jamessimms415]

Yea, so?

[@troodon1096]

Charges still have to be proven through due process of law, and legally one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Will corrupt people try to work around that still? Of course, but it would be a lot harder. It would still be an improvement.

[@garysteffens5468]

Steve, I love your attention on this issue. But, if you really want to solve it please encourage everyone to write their representatives! If we don't put pressure on our elected officials it will never go away.

[@weldabar]

Conflicts of interest lead to corruption, always. Also any money seized in actual crimes should be returned to benefit the people, not the cops (see conflict of interest above).

[@dklockoki7ctm807]

Not sure how to send ya. Arizona passed HB2810: The Arizona Senate passed a bill on Wednesday that looks to stop the government from being able to take a person's property without a criminal conviction.

[@pilarskifamily899]

Amen. I agree. Lets end civil asset forfeiture!!

[@matthewbohun-aponte6028]

I would add one stipulation to your list of requirements for criminal asset forfeiture - the forfeited funds have to be paid into the general fund of the state or federal government. If local governments are allowed to keep this money, they're incentivized to indulge in bad behavior. Most other fines (and that's essentially what we're talking about) are paid into the general fund.

[@stephmathena8812]

Quick question. Can this not be a RICO case, especially when it involves police departments across the country, as demonstrated by your mention of Black Asphalt. It all seems like a network just ripe for RICO proceeding. Just wondering. Because, maybe if it was handled that way, the Civil Asset Forfeiture might just disappear once and for all.

[@thewidowsson1467]

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[@Maj_Kasul]

Good. Finally.

[@jayrichards3572]

Even with your "errata" you are still cool Steve... Carry on!

[@chaliwen7217]

I have crisscrossed America by air many, many times in the previous 10 years before COVID and I have never had any adverse experiences with the TSA or border security. In fact they have always been reasonable and treated me with the utmost respect every time.

[@BobOBob]

Indeed, watch for those. Because you're NOT going to hear them.

[@LuckyBaldwin777]

Cut taxes on the ultra-rich and send the cops out to shake-down the rest of us to make up the difference. That isn't the America I was taught about in school.

[@nancyhickman9789]

Hopefully not only her money but lawyers cost.

[@cogidubnus1953]

You must be joking...it's America...Third-World home of the corrupt

[@hireahitCA]

Criminal asset forfeiture, but also with seized and returned funds being paid at twice the current interest rates, plus 10%, paid directly out of the seizing agency’s budget. There will be approximately 3 cases next year, and 0 the following years.

[@celesasheldon6931]

,🎉good job

[@JackRainfield]

Great work Steve. One thing I would like to mention is that when we fly from mainland China back to the US they give us an informational handout on the plane to prepare us for customs. It specifically says that we don't have to report up to $10,000 in cash. So maybe that $5,000 limit you mentioned is different on international flights?

[@stevelehto]

Domestically, you can legally carry as much as you want. The POLICY of the agents is to seize $5,000 or more.

[@JackRainfield]

@@stevelehto Ok thanks! I guess it's not safe to carry $5000 or more on any flight domestic or international then. We used to bring cash to China for vacations because of the difficulty in using credit cards in some areas.

[@raybrensike42]

More painful than losing the money is hearing what the law enforcement office did with it.

[@McBlaindj]

What is to prevent law enforcement from having you justify other forms of portable wealth (checks, debit cards, credit cards, money orders) and seizing them because they deem your wealth is suspicious?