Fellow WoW veteran compares experiences to "15 years of WoW vs 1 Year of FFXIV" by Jesse Cox

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[@JustRuss]

I hope some of you will consider joining me on my adventure! Streaming daily on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/justruss VODs here: www.youtube.com/@justrussvods

[@exceedcharge1]

The man in the underwear and sunglasses is the man, the myth, the legend, godbert manderville. He shows up in the hildibrand questlines that appear in the post games for the base game and expansions, they are almost entirely story so please post your reaction because they are amazing

[@JustRuss]

i 100% will do!

[@-BitterMagic-]

He's also featured in some small side quests in Camp Bronze Lake and will mention that he met you before if you did those before starting the Hildy quest line c: Some in game cutscenes also change a little depending on what you've done in the game and if you do new game+ you can probably experience new scenes or watch the scenes again in the cutscene book in the inn rooms.

[@rumasai]

​@@-BitterMagic- I actually didn't know about that interaction. One of my favorite examples of dialogue changes due to small things comes from early SB if you're playing a healer, and you might know the scene I'm talking about.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

He’s actually in the MSQ, but most players wouldn’t recognize him at the time in ARR.

[@exceedcharge1]

@@acgearsandarms1343 Neat

[@MiniMonMoni]

My friend in my static has a group of sprouts that she's watching over as they go through content, she got our static and a few other friends together when they finally made it to Shadowbringers for us to welcome them in the city after they got out of the starting cutscenes.

[@TanTann1992]

"I don't know if I'll cry at a game." Famous last words!!!

[@FourtuneCookies]

Ishikawa sends her regards to Russ.

[@Shinius]

I love the slow paced, take it at your own paceness of FF14. I started playing WoW Classic without any friends and I forgot how fun leveling was. I really like being able to log on, do a quest or two in STV and log out. I never really got a chance to before because I started at the very start of TBC and had to rush to 70 to play with friends. I never really got the chance to play it slow because that's not the culture of WoW, which is a shame.

[@JustRuss]

Yep classic levelling is super cosy

[@yayanotherchannel]

I just started the same, just running around places I haven't been on my own, questing for a bit, enjoying myself for 1-2 hours :D It allows you to really appreciate the effort that was put into the worldbuilding.

[@FalakIll]

If you need anymore reason to stan Yoshi P you should watch Arthars meeting him at the NA Fanfest. It's so wholesome.

[@JustRuss]

I will check that out!

[@ZhangLiao07]

Yoshi P is someone who plays and enjoys the game he makes. Don't hear much like that from the WoW devs.

[@nogitsune4452]

@@ZhangLiao07 I think when someone asked him a while ago what he thinks about WoW's development his response was like, "Do these people even play their own game?"

[@Shiirow]

the class/job quests continued until shadowbringers, thats when they transitioned into role quests, so the original jobs have like 3 job related story lines, the ones from HW have like 2 full stories, and every job after simply has their initial job storyline. it was partially due to how much development time needed increased over time and they thought that at some point you are no longer a novice and being "instructed" by others is sort of moot. eventually you are the master of the job and these later skills are no longer taught to you but created by you out in the world out of necessity and creativity.

[@shawnscouten5184]

To be fair in most of the job quests you have outskilled your teacher by stormblood and are just helping them with problems.

[@re-neru3082]

I understand the frustation of the watcher in stream seeing you doing long reaction again instead of playing the game, but as someone who only watch you from youtube, I like your longer videos lol

[@hoodiesticks]

It's about expectations. Once you accept that this is just what Russ does, it becomes a much easier pill to swallow.

[@SilverFang95]

​@@hoodiesticksor those who realize it's just what he does, the smart ones leave😂

[@JustRuss]

I think most of the "stalling" comments in chat are a meme, same as when i mention how long we've been on it. In my mind, it takes as long as it takes - and I'm not just talking for the sake of talking, I'm discussing what we are watching and giving some added context for people who are less familiar with WoW and such. as one of these comments said, people can always leave if they are only there for the gameplay. I'm never going to please everyone so I just do what I find most fun :D

[@rtiq270]

@@JustRuss Can't please everybody. I'd much rather you go at your own pace and enjoy it instead of being pulled every which way by chat.

[@tsuribachi]

32:49 you are from the moment Crystal mom talked to you but to the rest of the world, nobody knew that there's no "I'm the Warrior of Light" sign on your character

[@MsTerkup]

Up-to-date note on FF14 class quests/stories, all current class quests are, to my knowledge finished stories by now, having been replaced in Shadowbringers and Endwalker by role quests! New classes do still get quest lines for themselves of course, up to the level cap of the expansion they were introduced in, but ending there while pre-shadowbringers added a chapter to every class quest storyline.

[@JustRuss]

interesting! i wish they had kept the class questlines going though. i've really liked them so far

[@justalfric8719]

there’s several points in the story where i definitely know i shed a couple tears and maybe even had the lip quiver(im a bit of a baby tho) and i will remember those parts of the story forever 😭😂

[@JustRuss]

yep! i do likie to bawl at movies so it might get me!

[@olejarovav]

a smile better suits a hero 🛡

[@ecchidragon8038]

@@olejarovav How dare you! You monster! Have a like my good sir... 🧐

[@olejarovav]

@@ecchidragon8038 i am no monster, sir. i do visit him whenever im around you-know-where

[@mikoto7693]

I’m not ashamed to admit that FF14 has made me cry a few times. I’ve felt anger, sadness, triumph and stress at different points but I’ve enjoyed the game.

[@FinnFann]

They've actually retconned a bunch of times in FF14. BUT...they do it via a method called recontextualization. They don't throw out early lore. They introduce lore that changes the meaning of old lore. Making it entirely seamless and super easy to miss.

[@DifunctedReble]

56:47 Having been at LV Fanfest I can attest that The Primals were beyond expectations. The performance (getting to hear Koji just be a rapping goblin; Soken on trumpets, etc) was a blast. Though I do hope they are much more stringent about DDA (ADA in the US) compliance and enforcement in the future.

[@brettrichards4048]

One thing I wanted to touch on with the ret con question which your chat seems to kind of glaze over and just say "no". Depending on your definition of retcon there are retcons in 14, but they do it in a way that that is either very minor or very subtle. Sometimes with very minor story beats they will just go back and change something. Sometimes its just a localization mistake or something else, but something that seems like it may be a big deal just gets left behind or "oh yea, sorry, that actually wasn't that big of a deal it just came across that way in this language translation, our bad". The more common form of "retcon" if you want to call it that the game does employ is establishing a character or event, and then down the line changing it slightly and developing the character more to change the context surrounding the event or adding more depth to it, but in a way that does kind of change what happened. This tends to happen mostly with story beats that happen in ARR and early HW which, still canonically happen, they don't change the canon itself. But they will heavily alter the context surrounding the event and provide a different perspective. They do so in a way that feels natural though to the point where some people wouldn't even really call it a retcon. I wouldn't necessarily disagree with them myself, but if you want to be very literal around it there would still be a change to a past event and how the game presented it happening. It is much more subtle though, and in my opinion works very well.

[@JustRuss]

sounds well executed! :D

[@katomamundara8106]

The common term for 'retcon' is 'retroactive continuity'. AKA rewriting a prior event. IE: Alphinaud didn't die afterall despite us seeing his headless corpse at the end of 2.0 (obviously this didn't happen, but giving an example). He was always alive, but simply didn't show up and his 'death' is never mentioned again. Retroactive continuity is looked down upon because it completely negates what we know happened because the writer is a complete hack. This is the common tool of the hack artists we call "Comic Book Writers". What XIV does and you describe is called retroactive contextualization. It takes a prior event, adds details/new info, without changing what happened at all. IE: The Alphinaud we think died is secretly the Ascian Bahablast. Because Ascians could reform to begin with (see: Nabriales) despite dying, him 'dying' is legitimately just a false flag! Retroactive Contextualization is not a 'Retcon' in the colloquial sense. The fact they share the same start's just a tool used by naysayers who just are looking for excuses to hate on something. The former's a tool of a bad writer. The latter's a tool of a good writer, as the original event's still there, just with a detail you didn't witness the first time. Of course, if it's a bit too contrived (IE: Alphinaud secretly used the Ninja Art Kawarimi from Naruto and his log showed up after we left his corpse) than it gets stupid.

[@brettrichards4048]

@@katomamundara8106 as I said in my post, I don't disagree with you. I actually think you're completely correct tbh, I never heard the term "retroactive contextualization" but I'm stealing that for the future. I just meant that, for people who do classify it as a retcon (I personally don't) the game does have them from time to time.

[@katomamundara8106]

@@brettrichards4048 Oh I ain't saying you are disagreeing, I'm mostly saying it to fill in details for those who don't know the difference between a Retcon and a Retroactive Contextualization.

[@darkmirror21]

Since you're going on an ffxiv video binge, i think you'd thoroughly enjoy jocat's job crap guides. Because goddamn, they're hilarious af but they're also very informative.

[@HoboJoe10000]

I know I just started and this is over an hour long, but Asmon's exodus was the biggest, but not the first. The first true exodus was back in WoD with Zepla's group and several others fed up with WoD's gameplay. There had been a constant trickle due to how long Siege of Orgrimmar lasted, then WoD launch happened and the post-levelling content drought into Highmaul, then the ilvl fiasco of BRF was the straw that broke the camel's back for the first large exodus. While I was playing bnoth at the time, BRF was what caused WoW to fall behind both FFXIV and GW2 for me. I just logged for the facebook missions to make gold. BFA saw another large set of people coming over, but Asmon's wave was in the millions, which is crazy to think about.

[@JustRuss]

yep! WoD was rough for some. I personally thought the content they delivered was top notch, but it was few and far between so I understand it's negative reception - especially as there were such high expectations for the expansion with a re-peak for subscriber count. The selfie camera patch LOL

[@kenallsop7502]

Just come across your videos reacting to some of the "before I start FFXIV" stuff and based on your impressions I'm already pretty sure you're going to absolutely love this game. Enjoy the journey! Looking forward to more of your videos on it in tbe future.

[@JustRuss]

i can confirm. it's my new home!

[@avocadodevotee]

What a charismatic content creator! I wish I had found this streamer earlier!

[@JustRuss]

At your service

[@ZhongjieDong]

I'm actually scared of Russ' power. 70 minute video WITH cuts.

[@JustRuss]

i had to sit through the whole thing multiple times while editing... i think it was 2 hours lmao

[@profoundresolve]

Giving asmon a run for his money lol

[@fierydepeths2504]

Literally just stumbled upon and am just spamming through all of Russ' FF14 vids, love seeing new sprouts coming and trying out the world of Eorzea. I hope you and everyone accompanying you on your journey is having and has a wonderful time experiencing what FF14 has to offer.

[@fierydepeths2504]

Also 2 fun lil tips if you haven't been told. 1 when rezzed you have 5 sec of invulnerability if you don't do an action/auto-attack. (allows you to maneuver to safety before continuing to attack.) 2. attacks that can be interrupted, the enemy's skill display will be red shaking and angry to show it can be interrupted/may be important to interrupt. (know you're doing melee dps atm but just fun to know.)

[@JustRuss]

thanks! we are! feel free to join the discord and streams if you want to join us too :D

[@syaojyn]

43:15 as a streamer, best to stear completely clear of using in game addons. They're technically against ToS to use, and after The Omega Protocol Ultimate, there were streamer plugin witch hunts. It's a pandora's box that should be approached cautiously

[@eduardosolistinoco9698]

"You either stop at ARR, or you live long enough to become a walking advertisement for the game", as someone who has racked up about 80 hours without advancing the story after the first arc (just unlocked the airship and travelled to the other main cities) just by messing with classes and the golden saucer (and granted, the yokai watch event and those damn leg. medals), I have the tiniest suspicion I'm going to be the later.

[@JustRuss]

Hahah you and I both. And it didn't stop after ARR either. I've only just got to stormblood after playing for 10 months

[@siencrosse3400]

i stopped playing wow when bfa came out i got tired of people telling me to boost and when i said no i got kicked from my guild after giving them a big verbal middle finger i deleted wow and focus on ff14

[@JustRuss]

kicked because you didn't want to pay money to skip the game? LMAO. yeah fuck 'em!

[@jengogonar]

The most amazing thing about ff14 is that every encounter that you fight, has been played by the developers. Once they manage to finish the encounter, they adjust the hp of the bosses because they KNOW that players are vastly better than them, lol.

[@anaalvensleben789]

It's the opposite! The only nerf a FFXIV raid received since the Alexander days was a hp decrease to ease the dps check in Pandaemonium because the dev playtesters were better XD

[@christopherclayton5500]

​@anaalvensleben789 Not exactly, at least not as they explained it. That fight saw a week more testing than usual, which gave the testers a week more to get good at the fight, which means the target HP (before and after the usual bump) was higher than it normally would have been.

[@anaalvensleben789]

I mean, one more week of testing meaning that the testers were clearing a fight the player base had trouble with still seems wild to me :D@@christopherclayton5500

[@jengogonar]

@@anaalvensleben789 On that one, Yoshida said that the hp adjust was an error: it was set on a 15% increase or something and it had to be lower, as I remember.

[@ecchidragon8038]

Hey... Have you seen 'WoW Players Experience FFXIV' By Captain Grim? I think you'd enjoy it 😁

[@JustRuss]

yep! that's a good one 😆

[@Joe-it2dh]

You should watch the NoClip documentary about FFXIV, would be great content but its also incredibly eye opening.

[@JustRuss]

watched it just the other day so video will be up at some point in the future!

[@jarzz3601]

just hearing gold saucer being mention made me start humming the theme :D

[@BaithNa]

You're going to cry but its okay, everyone cries at some point while playing FFXIV

[@RandoPassingBy]

I surprisingly didn’t cry for anything from 2.0 to 5.4 MSQ, *I am stronger than ALL OF YOU* (Proceeds to cry like a literal baby during the ruby questline why does it hurt so much 😢)

[@philgamesh5731]

@@RandoPassingBy The weapons trials were brutal :D The story has a follow up quest in endwalker, if you want to shed some more tears :P

[@RandoPassingBy]

dw, I did the tataru quest and that was my second time crying in the game XD @@philgamesh5731

[@Bobuliss]

Keeper of Shadow is, imo, the hardest normal boss in the game.

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

P10s feel worse imo but that might be because I had a static for keeper of shadow

[@Lucyfer1102]

You will cry at some point in MSQ, sometime it is not because it is sad, but because it is relatable.

[@JustRuss]

Damn.

[@Lucyfer1102]

That's what a well written story does to you. Can't wait for you MSQ. Yes I'm one of those MSQ vampires

[@jarzz3601]

yoshi p owns my tear glands and shadowbringers showed he knows that all that needs to be said is one sentence ps I'm crying now

[@mrsoulvault31]

I'm writing this as I'm in MSQ dungeon, so thoughts may be a bit spread out. I think one of the big reasons why WoW set BFA as the starting xpac and letting you chose what expansion you level afterwards is to make it so the player can hop into one of the (better) stories of previous expansions to get invested into the game, and get a feel for their characters without making them play through 20 years of story. As a ff player who plays WoW about a month or so out of every season, this is something I greatly appreciated. As it meant when I wanted to start playing Dragonflght I could just hop in, then while leveling alt classes I could go through other expansions and experience their stories without feeling like I had to rush through to get to end game. That was exactly my experience with ff14, however. I had friends I wanted to play with that were max level, and after 2 weeks of playing I was still in ARR so over the next few days I just skipped every cutscene and dialogue, as theres probably 60+ hours of dialogue alone per expansion, not mentioning (as a dps) queue times for story dungeons (that were roughly 10minutes each, if not more). I felt rushed, and it was daunting knowing I had to play through 3 different expansions and the base game just to play the content I wanted to with my friends.

[@TachyKusanagi]

"I don't know if I'm gonna cry at a game, guys. Like, I'm pretty cold-hearted. Will I cry at a game?" --- Yes, yes you will.

[@JustRuss]

👀

[@SventFulgur]

The consoles are still solidly above the min specs for PC so they aren't gonna be "limiting" for a few years even now

[@zenixvampirchik652]

Weird thought... But imagine sometime in the future Final Fantasy XIV A realm reborn remake/remaster comes out. As a solo game. From ARR to the end of Endwalker.

[@Dajova]

To be clear, FFXIV did take a lot of inspiration from WoW. In fact, their director (Yoshi P.) actually made his dev team play WoW for some time while developing 2.0, to take inspiration to the rewamp/rebirth.

[@JustRuss]

yeah that's awesome ! I learned a lot in the noclip series! it will go up on this channel at some point too :D

[@zixserro1]

15:45 There are only two instances of retconning in XIV I can think of. The first is them retconning the Ascians' goals and intentions, which they finalized during the transition between ARR & HW. In 1.0, from what I know, the Ascians were just mysterious wizards who stole artifacts and had some unknown agenda that wasn't really too fleshed out. Yoshi P has said that they figured out what the overall goal of the Ascians was sometime during the patches of 2.0. The other instance is Endwalker, which sort of does some things to explain some older plot points from early on in the game that wouldn't make sense with newer context. They explain away some weird details in ARR (which would be spoilers to explain, so I won't say what they are), mainly because the plot up to EW hadn't been figured out yet, so they used it to tie up some of the early-game weirdness that didn't make sense later on. It's all done very well, though; none of it comes off as them going back on what was actually done in the story, but them framing things in a different light, so it's pretty great.

[@CybersteelEx]

Framing in a different light and perspectives without even needing a whole book too.

[@christopherclayton5500]

For reference, I have been playing FFXIV for about 2 years if you don't count my extended absences (3 if you do), and I still haven't finished the MSQ. I have never felt rushed by anyone other than myself, and I am glad I resisted that urge when it has come up. Side note, which you may already be aware of: each expansion has a* semi-canonical job associated with it. For ARR it was Warrior. I can't tell you the others yet, lol. *Stormblood has two.

[@DXDragon38]

49:39 Oh God, Min Item Level Coils gives me nightmares. Had to just Unsych them when I got to like 60 with my brother (who was lvl 80). Coils is rough 😅

[@JustRuss]

hahaha BRINGG IT ON!

[@Lorddraigo]

Discussing the story differences, I loved the original WoW model pre-lvl-squish where you had to briefly visit every expansion as you level up. Nowadays, a new player has no reason to see any expansion before BFA, and that's really sad. Makes it feel like Blizzard is OK throwing years of story and gameplay away to allow players to reach max level faster.

[@JustRuss]

yep it's such a missed opportunity to use the content they have developed, let alone use it to tell the story of the game :(

[@shadcroly]

I've heard that the reason the developers ban bots and such in waves and not right away is to make it harder for the bot creators to figure out how the developers are detecting the botting programs...ya know...outside of being able to move the camera about in game and see the bots clipped beneath the floor...

[@JustRuss]

honestly that's the most convincing thing i've heard. but still sounds like copium. if they just banned on sight - the integrity of the game would at least be less damaged, similar to FFXIV GMs enforcing the rules then and there. it seems to have made quite a difference to discouraging bad behaviour

[@Draeckon]

Bro don't worry about the video being long. I eat these types of long-form reacts up like candy.

[@JustRuss]

Good to know. More coming soon! No clip documentary!

[@sirtacovi3262]

"What does this mean besides hopefully sounding-" "Clever!" "-clever?"

[@deiraredfern]

MOAR PRIMALS PLEASE. Yes. Absolutely the highlight of FanFest.

[@dalgona4819]

Regarding job quests in FF14, man some of them are way too good. The Dark Knight became my absolute favorite as well as the Rogue questline. Though tbh I think some of the fun quests are from DoH/DoL job questlines (especially the ones in Ul'dah)

[@Rivvy250]

Dragoon and Ninja are my favorite of melee dps stories,DRK and WAR for Tank, hell all the caster job quest stories are great imo. Phys ranged I like MCH and DNC questlines.

[@larskoenig6021]

dark knight is spectacular! especially the lv 80 one (i think every job has those additional one) is pure emotional damage! bard is great as well and i really liked the maschinist one too. some even have influence to the msq too, you just dont know when you didnt have them done (like maschinist for example^^), some even change lines of npc´s when you met them here and there. its really really great! would love to see real job- and not just role-questlines in the expansion again, as good as the rolequests in shb and ew are, jobquests give this nice connection to what you play.

[@JustRuss]

i've done marauder and lancer so far and gotten the crystals for the next job "tier" and i've enjoyed both so far. it's really nice to have a backstory

[@olejarovav]

@@JustRuss samurai, bard and dark knight are true emotional damage, just you wait o:)

[@seekittycat]

I love the Lala brothers when I did BLM :D. They're so precious

[@Chibi-kittenplays]

OMG. .go and watch WoW Players Experience FFXIV by Captain Grim! You will LOVE IT!!!

[@cyphi474]

Its difficult to explain. You are the chosen one(you and every player, but other players are pretty much ignored), but you become hero by your actions, not by some divine favor. Blessing itself doesnt give you any superpower advantage. It makes you immune to primals influence so you can fight them, but thats all. You still have to fight them like any other enemy and for that your reputation grows.. Its simplified because there is more to it, but everything in time.

[@JustRuss]

yep! i like the innocence of it :D

[@crimsonpotemkin]

Having all jobs on one character is the absolute best. I'm currently also playing guild wars 2 and I have 10 fully leveled fully specced out characters. And I don't give a single shit about any of them. Whereas in ff14 I care about all my jobs, because they've all been leveled through the same lens of my personal character, that I'm used to, the one I identify with because of the time spent and the story. So despite it looking like having all the jobs on one character would dilute the potency of jobs it's the opposite. Switching between 10 characters all the time is worse than playing 1 character and switching between 10 jobs.

[@JustRuss]

Yep I feel the exact same with my WoW characters

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

Great reaction. I can't wait for you to react to the NoClip Doc and it'll probably be 6 hours long since its about a 3 hour doc. 😂 But love your reaction and discussions! Keep it up! 👍

[@JustRuss]

LOL funny you say that. I literally set aside an entire stream to watch it and it took 6 hours hahahah video(s) will be up in future

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

@@JustRuss haha nice! Looking forward to it!

[@Retigator]

Talking about the things I remember most playing wow. I spent hours in a desert farming a golden bikini.

[@VampireNoblesse]

the beauty is, FF14 is story focused (especially once you reach and finish Shadowbringers 6.0..), BUT has just as great (HC) raiding too!.. great Story (characters) + great (HC) raiding + great glamours (with housing) => those 3 things make, FF14 does so well, make FF14 imo the best mmo

[@dahlias8569]

😂😂😂😂 you gonna cry😂😂😂😂 the story of ffxiv is very deep, dark, and sad but at the end, you are always a hero

[@JustinK0]

just wanted to say that there are still certain mentors that give mentors a bad name, but most are nice.

[@JustRuss]

Good to hear!

[@throwaway5012]

Checking out your content for the first time, and no offense - but had a hard time watching you 'react' to content when it was clear you weren't paying attention to the video at all. Best of luck to ya though.

[@JustRuss]

Cheers. Can’t please everyone. 🙏

[@youtousim]

Welcome to FF! Don't worry about raids being far away. You'll do your first in ARR still. Enjoy min ilevel runs for the (somewhat) original experience and get your body parts flattened if that's your jazz.

[@jetwoldara]

You should watch Noclip 's documentary of Final Fantasy XIV. And not just that, everything they make is really good

[@SaigaTenshi]

have you watched Pint's FFXIV vids? you might like it

[@JustRuss]

I've watched a couple but I need to take a look at the rest! they're amazing!

[@the_dark_soul_of_man]

pray return to the Waking Sands

[@GamingFoodie]

The short of it is FFXIV respects your time. Yoshi P in PAX East he admitted to pushing the release date for Dawntrail by one week so people can play the Elden Ring DLC.

[@FirelighttheKing]

With regard to controllers/PlayStation support: I’m of the opinion that it was built for controller first. The menus, genuinely, look and feel much better and easier to use and navigate with a controller than with a kb/m.

[@JustRuss]

Yea I do need to try with a controller myself actually

[@lyrithvalthier2236]

Good intention feedback, cause I really like watching Russ live, hopefully it's helpful: If there was an edit of this react that cut maybe 50% of the content, maybe just cut the really really long tangents, or highlighted key moments/most relevant content, then I bet this would be S-tier vid and would keep my attention. Especially the parts talking over the vid with his chat, or with his chat in general. Not trying to say I dont like this content, I DO, when he was live and I was participating. Hopefully, this feedback does not upset.

[@JustRuss]

Cheers. I cut like 45 min of tangents haha. I usually leave in what I think is relevant discussion / context. And talking over the video well it is what it is I guess, can’t cut that out

[@lyrithvalthier2236]

@@JustRuss oh you already CUT from the vod content? Holy shit bro lol. You need an editor! For KZbin videos, I feel like chat engagement loses it's content value entirely unless it *becomes* the content. Cause I see your like, really good shit, and think "Yo, this dude ticks the boxes for raiders, RPG fans, and casuals - gigachad content". But if that good shit is spread too thin, it's hard to stay engaged on KZbin, cause people's time is limited a lot. I missed this particular livestream part, and I'm part of the % of your audience who's looking for gameplay/raiding takes, and Jesse does cover that interestingly here, so I opened this up wanting to get: "Your take on Jesse's big WoW / FFXIV video, since your perspective comes from being a M+ WoW raider, and seeing how you generally would compare mechanics, gameplay, etc." I am not a hardcore raider even. I am current mostly, and complete new raids regularly, but I do not prog brand new, and I have not completed an ultimate. But I have played since 2013, so I am here for the "gameplay takes", and I would put BIG money that there are way more of those players in FFXIV and on twitch than.. well any other type.

[@lyrithvalthier2236]

And as you address in this video, and have seen for yourself, ARR is.. well. Let's just say it is not people's favorite content to consume, except the Trials, like Ifrit, and I think you have done Titan now, but even those are normal, so they are there to watch your reactions to the bosses themselves, the cinematic nature of them than the fights themselves for normal mode/MSQ clears. HUGE TIP - when you approach level 50, plan to schedule and then advertise on your KZbin vids when you are going to be streaming the ARR showdown content. Preatorium. schedule it out, advertise, and get as many viewers on that stream as you can, and once you start it, try really really hard to not get toooo distracted by all the subs, the large view count, and chat HYPE. Also, x10 that for ShadowBringers.

[@JustRuss]

thanks for all the valuble feedback! and for how you presented it. It's always nice to get some perspective from a viewer and why they click certain videos, expecting what, etc. i'll take it on board. @@lyrithvalthier2236

[@fluffykitten077]

Since you've changed race twice already, here's a FFXIV joke for you Russ: "Welcome to Fantasia Addicts Anonymous. I see a lot of new faces today and I have to say - I'm very disappointed"

[@JustRuss]

🤣🤣

[@foreverfizz8]

oof 6 minutes less than Asmon. So close!

[@bmo1878]

Min ILvl scales things down but it isn't exactly the same. It is harder than normal, but there is a LOT that has changed since the game began. The biggest thing being most classes are far simpler and easier to play. Heck the state of the server latency makes a huge difference.

[@JustRuss]

I bet!

[@jamesmckee329]

You will definitely cry it's expected

[@necroplayer97]

If you want I would highly recommend the two documentaries by folding ideas regarding wow, especially his, why it's rude to suck at warcraft, one

[@Amadaues]

You looking for the Toxic in ff14, become a mentor there is a whole system that gathers them lol

[@TakeItEasy2019]

The thing about toxicity in FFXIV is that if you are high lvl but new to a piece of content, then you need to say it up front otherwise you'll get flamed in pubs.

[@Sethzenjion]

Do you think you'll check out the noclip ffxiv documentary?

[@JustRuss]

Yep I actually watched it on Friday so the react vids will come out soon-ish when I’ve had a chance to edit them down

[@NikoJr.]

Regarding zone diversity with visuals, I haven't played WoW, but you look at FFXIV zones like Mor Dhona, Il Mheg, Kugane, Ishgard, and Amaurot and tell me FFXIV doesn't at least compete with WoW on visual diversity

[@olejarovav]

one thing i dont like about ffxiv zones is how empty they are. not only the outdoor zones, but the cities as well.

[@Shiirow]

@@olejarovav how to say you dont play XIV without saying you dont play XIV. I have never logged into any of my characters on any data center, NA/EU/JP and had empty zones or cities in all the years Ive played the game.

[@olejarovav]

@@Shiirow i didnt mean player wise. theres players EVERYWHERE. i mean design wise. minimal shrubbery, tiny towns. youre telling me that youre okay with namai being essentially the whole kingdom of doma?

[@NikoJr.]

@@olejarovav I'll chock that up to them having to split resources between Gyr Abania and Doma. Not saying it was a good decision, and they really should have just stuck with one region to flesh it out more like with Shadowbringers, but I understand why Doma was limited to the Ruby Sea, Yanxia, and Azim Steppe

[@kentak5748]

Namai is a village, nothing more

[@Someone-dv7hw]

Oh I am glad for the ps limitations.... I play this on my potato laptop and barely squeezed out 15 fps by lowering the graphic settings with a tweak in system configuration (you can manually choose a graphic scaling for full screen mode, borderless windowed is therefore not an option for me even if it would make tabbing out of the game accidentally or intentionally less catastrophic) I am scared that I'll have to touch those settings again once the dawntrail upgrades roll around... since I also have to adjust my entire HUD when doing that because the scaling gets all wrong... plus since I already use 60% aka smallest size for the hotbars they might simply become to big to see anything if I lower my resolution even further. I am already considering buying a proper gaming pc but it ain't that easy... who knows maybe dawntrail will force me to decide. PS: for those that never had to deal with low spec hardware... 15fps is the minimum. 12 is already getting super janky and anything below 10 becomes a slideshow. I have experienced dropping to 7fps in an alliance once and I couldn't see shit.

[@nnymeia7663]

they already said they're going to raise the minimum requirements for pc. I'll have to update my pc too or just switch to ps5 😭

[@syaojyn]

19:30 not to be a downer, but they've more or less stopped making job specific quests after a point and now it's general role(tank, healer, melee, caster physical ranged) quests instead

[@Saintjo11]

Wow! My fave FFXIV Streamer uploading an hour long video, thats my break in work sorted! 😀

[@CatOnACell]

someone has probably already posted this but they also stole the Dragonflight mount mechanics from GW2 path of fire. it's the best game for environmental parkour and mount racing out of the main MMO's. although GW2 is so much about execution of limited abilities that you never really get that feeling of being over-powered through number crunching that some people crave. a level 80 with the base game is just as powerful as a level 80 with all the expansions, but they are just stuck in the main zone, without access to the cool exploration abilities that were implemented.

[@benediktcz]

off topic - did i missed it or you are not doing crafting at all? crafting in ffxiv is great imo, 2nd best i saw in mmorpg.

[@JustRuss]

i will check it out eventually yep!

[@CrisperPoet]

re: toxicity in 14, the most common toxic behavior I see happens specifically in Novice Network, and consists of people coming in and just unloading slurs and hate when they didn't like something someone did, and when they get called on it they say "But the channel says there are no language restrictions when you log in!" which it does say there are no restrictions, but the intent is that if there is someone who speaks a given language, and there is someone that can help them in that language, they are free to do so. and even then I can only think of a dozen or so times that's happened since I started.

[@kuposceptre]

The leveling in wow now is so bad there is no point in it at all lol. Blizzard should just let you start at the level cap its that pointless now,

[@JustRuss]

i think a revamp would be better but WoW players are so cultered to just go fast to max and not care about the world that they'd probably throw their toys out the pram if it was slower to level

[@Shiirow]

I would prefer they remake it be more fun and engaging than just removing it. Then again the 'creative' brain trusts cant be trusted to that adequately. Its funny to me when people ask for a WoW2 but dont realize the people making it will be the ones who ruined WoW1.

[@kuposceptre]

i would prefer a revamp also and not such a brainless experience leveling but its blizzard cant as for to much lol@@JustRuss

[@DamienDrake2940]

Have you played any of the Xenoblade games on the Switch? If you want games with story there are none better right now. Comparing Xenoblade 3 from last year and FF16 this year, many now see Xeno as the premier open world JRPG franchise.

[@JustRuss]

sadly no switch atm! but maybe down the line :D

[@bmo1878]

Black mage isn't to bad to level, people either have an idea of it from the past before the last reworks or they just heard it was bad and just take other people's opinions. It is pretty simple to play honestly, it just gets hard if you want to play it at a high level.

[@JustRuss]

Yea I best it’s a beast if you min max

[@skellysniperyt3210]

​@@JustRuss Black Mage is an outlier in general. On FFLogs, Black Mage typically has both the best parses *and* the worst. Amazing if you're skilled, and know the fights well- and *bad* if not.

[@lovelydumpling]

I hate when people are like "omg dude you're gonna cry so much omg this thing is so emotional omg omg omg" priming people's emotions like that often make it less likely to actually happen emotional scenes are a lot more impactful when you're not prepared for them

[@JustRuss]

Yeah agreed

[@olejarovav]

for many sprouts, you make take months to get to endgame. theres so much story (main and side) and so much to do (without a grind in sight), old duties are easily accessible, that its fun to just go at your own pace. im just finishing stormblood after seven-ish months. i do stall, when the msq becomes a little boring at times, but i have so much other stuff to do, that its never a problem also: wow sucks so much at old content. the moment a new expansion launches, its like the previous one never happened. i am a lore-whale that started playing at the beginning of SL, but the pains it took to even find out how to begin that content. and you know what wow players told me? that wow was always an endgame game, so why do i bother. go figure

[@JustRuss]

LMAO yea. they are leaving so much on the table by not using old content in some way

[@RandoPassingBy]

I am a wasted sprout 🫡 It took me 20 days to go from 2.0 to 6.4 (I am not cutscene skipper either) I literally just be on game and too investigated in MSQ days and nights😭

[@JustRuss]

dayummmmmmm @@RandoPassingBy

[@thyrussendria8198]

About the same here, though I will go back and do the quests in older regions with new classes@@RandoPassingBy

[@RandoPassingBy]

im definitely speed but as you can tell, this game is eating me whole XD@@JustRuss

[@AzureOW]

The ability to turn a 36:19 video into a 1:10:59 video is actually frightening... These powers weren't meant for mortal men

[@selenang2006]

poor wow players, all so mentally hurt and fragile. Came across so many of em when they r sprouts, saying sorry all the time when they make a tiny mistake.

[@JustRuss]

we are traumatised

[@seekittycat]

I used to apologize for watching every cutscene. Then I joined an alliance pug where people had a dance party for me when I left cutscene and showered me in confetti 🥺. Got told to stop apologizing by like 23 veterans who probably ran this content like 100 times.

[@JustRuss]

another beautiful moment haha@@seekittycat

[@alyishiking]

that's me lol. I'm starting to avoid WoW altogether now. During one of the ARR patch trials, I stood in what was apparently a tank mechanic (as a dps), wiped the group, apologized and admitted I was new, and guess what? no one yelled at me. no one tried to get me kicked. they just went, "Oh you're learning. It's all good!" and we killed it 2nd pull. so wholesome honestly. That NEVER would've happened in WoW.

[@knowwhoiamyet]

Second comment later in the video but in regards to toxicity: FF14 definitely does have toxicity. However, outright aggression is reportable and actually sees action taken quite often, so as a result, the type of toxicity you see tends to be more of the passive aggressive kind, or just outright silence with bad play behavior with an "oops lol" after or whatever. Additionally, the overprotectiveness of Sprouts leads to a toxic positivity being formed too. Now don't get me wrong, this isn't terrible most of the time. Asking people to be patient with mistakes for people still learning is fine, it happens, no worries. A wipe or two isn't going to get the vast majority of people worked up. However, sometimes this "don't worry, everyone makes mistakes!" goes so far as to extend to someone at max level whiffing a mechanic they learned at level 30 so badly that they wipe the entire raid/trial a dozen or more times. That is to say, at some point, players need to be held accountable for their poor gameplay. The later you are, the less acceptable it is to not be picking up on things quicker and quicker, but that only makes sense. If you've played from scratch, and are now in level 90 content, you've very likely got a hundred or more hours in the game by this point. Even if you haven't mastered a given fight, you should at least be capable of figuring out how to spot the tells by now. And I want to reiterate because I can't stress it enough. Mistakes happen, and most folk really don't care. It's no big deal. Take it from the top and go again if you wipe. Hakuna Matata. But when you have a healer/tank couple holding the party hostage because neither of them are willing to be held accountable for their own mistakes, and people keep defending them because "oh they're just learning", but you've wiped to the same extremely easy mechanic 6-7 times already... It gets frustrating. Toxic Positivity holds people hostage. I'll take it over being told to kms any day, though. Sorry random dudes in my first ever WoW dungeon where I had no idea what was going on. I lived.

[@jengogonar]

48:21 While you MAY call wow more "comba diverse" everyone EVENTUALLY get into whatever gives them more dps/utility, in my experience: Outlaw rogue? Nah, you suck! Assassination? great dps! Subtlety? best for pvp! And me a fan of (combat)outlaw rogue and then they ducked the spec until it was worthless. In the end what they give to variety, ends turning into everyone using almost the same. In FF14 if you pick a job, it has its own identity, its own abilities (even if you can tell it is a similar version of the other, but...) the feel is different: there are things that you can do as a WAR and that you can't do as PLD.

[@Shiirow]

I hated Survival Hunter until Legion when it became super fun... that didnt last long though because they ruined it shortly thereafter in the next expansion.

[@jengogonar]

@@Shiirow Back in legion I liked BM, (you know, 2 pets) but then they removed it and made it a talent. Personal opinion:RDM is what blizz wanted to do with balance druids, but they never figured how to make it work.

[@normalmighty]

1:10:47 6 mins shorter than the asmon reaction, smh. Must not have reacted hard enough

[@JustRuss]

We got him next time for sure

[@riot6508]

as someone who just started getting into wow, i found it extremly boring i felt like i finished almost everything and had no reason to really play unless i just make alts , like ff has so much content that u can do wow has like nothing cause 15years of content is not even worth doing ... like all that there is to do is do keys at 70 really and for what? just to do more keys, in ff you have so many raids and stuff to get gear to move on to the next one wow its just like get 70 and bam

[@JustRuss]

Honestly I think this is the biggest thing I also noticed myself! And probably the main reason I currently have no interest in going back to WoW

[@ValeVenator]

the biggest difference that was pointed out to me was that wow has more characters dedicated to the furry community

[@JustRuss]

🤣🤣 hahah kinda true

[@1992Latvian]

1h 10mins, you still got to learn from master Asmongold :D

[@JustRuss]

Hahah before i edited it down I think it was 2 hours long

[@Chrisfragger1]

Yeah, but in WOW, if you spec your character out in fun, weird ways that do not explicitly follow the meta, you get kicked from ALL the raids.

[@Chrisfragger1]

You should see an SS-Rank hunt.

[@VampireNoblesse]

don't be fooled by "no where near the complexity of WOW", when he mentions raiding (he hadn't raided yet in FF14.., and he likely ment "complex" as in, you need 3rd party tools and very specific builds for WOW raiding) .... HC raiding is complex on another level, especially the EW raids

[@JustRuss]

Looking forward to trying it

[@jarzz3601]

crafting in ff14 is a pyramid scheme barely held up cause raiders want food and potion

[@elvinglass2465]

World of Warcraft has lost it's soul.

[@DayleDiamond]

They could add all of the books into World of Warcraft. Users are paying enough and an e-reader is easy content. There could be a button for subscribers, they could be unlocked with achievements for doing lots of quests in each expansion that relates to the book. Ultimately I think because their lore has been such a mess they're afraid of what's written in the older books.

[@JustRuss]

100%

[@Adonteon21]

Cox is laying it on thick. There are lots of giant gapping plot holes in arr alone.

[@JustRuss]

Interesting. I’m enjoying it so far and haven’t noticed any

[@undeadNova]

if you feel happy whenever you see our lord and savior yoshi-p, you are already part of ffxiv and can never turn back to any other game. you are ours now, and you are here to stay!

[@JustRuss]

He is just the best!

[@undeadNova]

he truly is! btw, if you ever need any raid help, I'm on the same server as you. lol

[@rootzeroday]

KZbin has literally turned into react content. That’s it. No one producing their own content, just uploading themselves reacting to creators…

[@JustRuss]

This sure makes sense that there's content to react to if nobody is producing it. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with a mixture of both

[@rootzeroday]

@@JustRuss this is no way to throw shade, but a simple observation. Why not just try and create something unique rather than farm likes and views. Yes these videos take some degree of work, but why not actually create something unique to you?

[@JustRuss]

@@rootzeroday Like I said, i think it's good to do both. At least that's what I try to do myself. More of my channel's content is my own created than reacting to others - but I think watching, reacting to and adding something to other videos can also be entertaining. You are right with your observation and the reason for it is because a lot of people (myself included) enjoy watching videos with an added perspective, to see if you agree with it or not. It's like watching a tv show with a friend.

[@BaithNa]

Even though WoW doesnt have console support, its graphics still look like a PS2 game

[@JustRuss]

And it still runs terribly unless you have a really high end pc

[@Ryuusaku1986]

The most important thing in FF`14 is prices in MTX shop. You want boost? £18 please ....not £50 like in wow... u dont want to do content? Cool just pay £18 and skip everything until recent expansion, £50 in wow is a fucking joke, especially when nearly nothing is account wide

[@jude2214]

Month late but: The graphics arent hamstrung by consoles, they intentionally made it so lower end pcs can play the game at a respectable performance. The ps5 version runs on par with a higher mid tier pc at high, holding a pretty consistent 60fps. They were hesitant to do a graphical update in part because of the risk of alienating people on lower end pcs

[@BlakeAustin2011]

The biggest problem with WOW is they don’t have a cohesive story. Original WOW had self-contained stories in each zone that were all good, and they told a cohesive story overall. But once they grew too large, they never went back to redesign the gaming experience to be in order. Now you have to be level 60 just to experience the other storylines.