Feminism is not Feminism. Here's why

An interview with ‪@rachel.wilson‬ author of the book Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
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NAVIGATION:
00:00:00 - How Feminists literally changed History
00:14:00 - Did women actually want Feminism?
00:21:50 - The Reason both Parents Work now
00:28:43 - Deterring Fathers, encouraging Divorce & Single Motherhood
00:39:48 - Why are Women initiating divorce? & Birth Rate Collapse
00:49:20 - Why more women were against 'liberation' than for it
00:58:10 - Who was the real pusher of Feminism propaganda?
01:06:22 - Feminism & Veganism
01:16:50 - Are Women happier thanks to Feminism?
01:47:08 - It should be OK for a woman to want to be a Mother
01:57:10 - Feminism's effect on MEN / Virtues of Masculinity
02:14:36 - Why Women 'Test' Men

[@WhatIveLearned]

Rachel's book is a really interesting dive into all this, check it out here: amzn.to/46fOHJz , Her Substack also has tons of great reads: Rwilson.substack.com

[@jayronn.christian]

I bought her book

[@ahmada1030]

Hey Joseph, you should put all of your content into podcast form too

[@4bidden1]

Dude nobody watching all that lol plus we already know the answer

[@btdtpro]

51:45 Yoooo! This woman just sold me on it, I'm 10000% a massive feminist now. I had no idea pre feminisms women had no responsibility to the family and total control over their husband. Sign me up for that marxist post modernism, if it means women have to take some responsibility.

[@Handle35667]

I don’t think Rachel Wilson has seen the Barbie movie.

[@rachel.wilson]

Thank you so much for having me, Joseph 🙏🏻

[@hadenohhh]

Love watching intelligent and articulate people talking about what they are passionate about.

[@mguti090]

You were great. Thanks for speaking the truth.

[@AA-Ashley]

Glad to hear your opinion that I definitely DO NOT agree with. I like how you don't invoke politics in this interview. You seem nice. Agree to disagree.

[@jty1999]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and research. Hope to see what else you can teach us.

[@cheeseheadwizard]

based homeschool mom is based

[@allsmilesguy]

I’m noticing a positive trend of people who are waking up to the realities of health, the food and drug industries and the government in general are starting to see how deep it all goes. Even what we thought were positive changes are being used with control and power in mind.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yes😊😊😊

[@de14jabs]

Rockęfeller funded the suffragettes to increase the worker base for taxing, funded public education to train the next generation of factory workers and invested in pharma and ag to create a perpetual cycle of sick, ignorant workers to squeeze as much profit out of the masses. Total monster

[@mghaderyan]

where are you seeing this? your social media recommends you what you are into. Trust me, more people are becoming oblivious than aware

[@ethansevilla1395]

But i also find that concerning, normally, people only wake up when the boot is already on their head, and its to late

[@allsmilesguy]

@@ethansevilla1395True but I think we’re approaching a critical point where either the majority rebels against the system and we struggle but become free again, or we remain in fear and the system becomes unstoppable. The only way the majority will rebel is if the situation becomes too unbearable. We’re absolutely going to see the consequences of what we’ve done and it’s going to be very uncomfortable. Mass homelessness/poverty, food shortages, government assistance being almost mandatory for survival, mass psychosis even worse than what we have now. When we’re there, it’s all or nothing I think.

[@TotallyxKatiee]

My husband and I always discuss this… irs by design. They wanted to have two workers for the price of one. Having both parents at work, this meant work was more overpopulated which caused wages to drop. Employers can now get away with paying employees half what they used to because there’s more people competing for these jobs. I’ve decided to not have children unless I can stay home and it’s looking pretty unlikely for that to be affordable. When we’re young we’re taught we need a career, but as you said once you have a child that no longer matters to you. Many women would like to stay home but can’t. It’s a terrible system to have someone else raising your children for you.

[@iridescentraindrops]

Talk for yourself. Having a kid doesn't mean you stop wanting to grow in your career.

[@TotallyxKatiee]

@@iridescentraindrops and you should have that choice, but those who want to actually raise their kids should have that choice too. I don’t know why you’d rather work than raise a family, or maybe it’s your programming. You know you have to work therefore you convince yourself it’s a choice when in most cases it isn’t.

[@MrsYasha1984]

Are you sure finances would not check out? A lot of the womans money is sucked of by child care. You need two cars so both can go to work easily. You pay more taxes, because of more income. You have less time to cook, so you eat out more, which is more expensive. How much money of two incomes is still there after all the extra costs of both working? I stopped working because twin babies would have beenhso expensive in daycare, i would be in the negative. Now I'm home since 9years. None of us wants me to work outside the home. Financially it kind of just worked out. Don't know how, I think it was just divine providence. It's never the right time to have children. It's a leap of faith

[@iridescentraindrops]

@@TotallyxKatiee Working makes you feel complete and accomplished as a human being. As a woman don't you have any other dreams and ambitions beyond being a breeding machine? That's pretty sad.

[@valuedcontributer7690]

​@@iridescentraindropsIf being an expendable wage slave is all it takes for you to feel accomplished then it seems you don't have much else going for you. That's pretty sad.

[@JamesSturges]

“Feminism is not feminism. Here’s why”

[@SoloRenegade]

Feminism is and has always been Marxism.

[@juicyjumbler]

Yup. Such a midwit stance.

[@XTheOneCat]

agree

[@ericaugust1501]

everything gets hijacked sooner or later if it gets big enough. if a system can be exploited by the few, it will become a pure form of that exploitation (eg. late stage capitalism), if a civil rights movement gets big enough (eg feminism), it will be exploited for its ability to manipulate and tribalize. It's never a case of "some movement or system" is changing or developing flaws and we then all pretend we are so clever to spot it and understand it, like a bunch of intellectual masturbators. Its far simpler than that, its always a case of those with most wealth and the most control are seizing these systems/civil movements for use as propaganda/exploitation toward voters and public opinion so they can maintain control and remain the top dogs in the financial systems. Jostling for status in the human social hierarchy (and wealth is the indicator we use) has been around for thousands of years, and is the core organizational mechanism of human culture, which has barely changed over the millennia.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

Feminism is Marxism.

[@ilikerealmaplesyrup]

Making people always "be nice" will turn people into psychopathic passive aggressives

[@SladkaPritomnost]

When I drive I don't see anyone driving "be nice", mostly all arrogant reckless behavior.

[@PalimpsestProd]

yep, that's how things went in Canada.

[@jahnkaplank8626]

Like that rainbow pony in the Lego Movie.

[@AltruisticWarrior]

​@SladkaPritomnost narcissistic is the correct word. I spend at least 16 hours a day on the road with my job on nearly every street through a 2 year span in southern AZ. I've seen it all. It got far worse after covid restrictions lifted. Talking with a few police officers, they wholeheartedly agreed. Also, some newer research is showing that covid can have an effect on mental health including increased violent tendencies. Particularly for middle to older aged women. I've had several women attack me in the last few years while minding my business doing my job. One hopped in the back of my pickup trying to take pictures of my equipment another stole my county maps out of my truck etc. Scary out there. I get in trouble for being dismissive to people but it's the safer option these days. I'm not obligated to answer questions or entertain folks. I'm a utility worker minding my business. Call the number all over the truck if you have questions. Heh... so many stories. I'm glad I work in isolation for several weeks at a time.

[@YSLRD]

​@@AltruisticWarrior The mental problems may be vaccine related.

[@miniraissa]

That conversation will keep on going blowing my mind for a few days, I think. 2/3 of the conversation I was like “yeah, that’s right” but towards the end I began to see the fool I’ve been playing. I have a amazing husband and I’m about to give birth to two girls and several questions have been raised between me and my partner because, I just realized, I created unrealistic expectations based on feminist sentimentalism. I’ve always always wanted to be a mother but my own mother and family in general wanted me to have a career. I’ve been depressed and feeling under accomplished for 12 years since I got my college degree. I’m 35 now, I’ve been lucky enough to find a partner who wants a family as much as I do and believing that my life just started.

[@steakovercake3986]

Sincerely, congratulations for your baby twins, and we all have been fooled by Marxist ideas

[@ummadam9608]

Congrats 🎉

[@loganwolv3393]

"To have a career" in the way you're saiyng it, i think this term massively downplays their expectations still. I think they wanted you to have "an empire", that's more accurate because almost anyone has a career, a stable job, good or bad, but not everyone is financially independent (and making a decent living or better). And don't even get me started about starting a successfull business wich requires massive ammounts of raw willpower and at the very least fairly high risks. Personally, i wanna have a stable job that i like doing, and if i can achive financial independency with relative ease then great, otherwise not worth my willpower.

[@rapamune]

Happy for you, but I don't see many men settling with a 35 year old in the first place, definitively out of the norm.

[@yipperdeyip]

Thank you for being honest! Hopefully more and more women realize this as the segregation between men and women today is a disgrace

[@sam808tt2]

this might be one of the best things i have ever watched on youtube, every minute of this was GOLD, pure GOLD. Thank you so much for this vital conversation.

[@beataks8859]

It's all from an American point of view, isn't it? Because I'm from Europe and I only recently found out there was a female anti suffrage movement in the US. We've never had that in my country 😶 our upper class women were too preoccupied with war for independence to oppose feminism

[@nanomia]

Same I only found out recently. USA is a crazy place.

[@user-jg5ut9xj1e]

Actually a lot of ideas came from France and England as seeds but as you know, every Murican must be supersize and overdone, hence why these seeds sprouted so fast there.

[@turtleanton6539]

Söaves thought yo be free from work

[@mw00295]

2:18:05 You have to go through a few meltdowns to change anything. It's easy to avoid getting angry, sad and do something safe such as scroll social media all day, but this way you'll never change anything about your life. I remember reading somewhere that anger, and having these kinds of meltdowns, being stressed, and frustrated is what increases your neuroplasticity, so it's kind of a fuel for any real big change in your life. Women of course don't like men who get frustrated and cry a lot, but that's because they like a fully developed grown man, not someone who's going through a development phase, but that shouldn't mean that men should avoid stress, crying, meltdowns, anger, that's all part of self-improvement cycle. And with experience you will learn how to more efficiently redirect these emotions towards something productive, and even conceal them.

[@abdielgonzalez7344]

My emotions are really inferior to her fertility, got it

[@FirstnameLastname-py3bc]

With humility there is no anger, no frustration, even fear disappears. There's a lot of love. People change and adopt then. That anger, crying, frustration - it's all coming from not being humble.

[@xX1Mankrik3Xx]

​@@FirstnameLastname-py3bcAnger, frustration, and even fear have a time and place to be utilized properly in your emotional/social toolkit. People have been brainwashed to have a negative gut reaction to them regardless of the circumstance.

[@excelself]

Short answer: No. Long answer: Nooooooooooooooo!

[@Visual39]

OG 👏

[@Winterascent]

Feminism, statists, wealthy industrialists, it was all part of the same thing. It was all about, and always about control.

[@croozerdog]

yep, you're the target demographic of this slop lmao

[@nifhel23]

at 41:06 she said that women are dominating tech ... I work in tech and that's a bit weird to hear :-/ ... i don't think that's true

[@mw00295]

These TikTok video where these model like women show their tech job give people false idea that tech is dominated by women like that (I suspect that these vids might be ads posted by companies to attract nerds). Though, wait 10 years. Tons of "women exclusive workshops" happening now, companies like Intel giving free mentorship to women, etc. They are giving unfair market advantage to women, so some tech jobs will probably be dominated by women soon.

[@miaomiaou_]

Yeah that couldn’t be further from the truth lol

[@tripplerizz9382]

was not expecting this crossover episode

[@MexieMex]

Great conversation, and the point of how unequal equality is was made wonderfully well by how careful Joseph had to be about phrasing certain comments and questions.

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

this was a huge surprise to see rachel on here. thanks for having the balls to have her on. speaks well to your character.

[@religionisapoison2413]

Just got one of my balls cut off, let me tell you... having balls is not a sign of manliness lmao. Also, neither is having this guest on.

[@selu1363]

Another reason why college educated women divorce: You have more viable career options to support yourself and your children if you have a degree. You're stuck working in low paying restaurant and retail jobs if you went from HS into being a SAHM. Gotta stick it out to keep the kids fed.

[@GiveMeCoffee]

I think what you two discussed on this video applies mainly to the US. In my country I faced lots of prejudice for not wanting to marry or have children or not being feminine (I haven't been to college if you are wondering), and I've been always been told it is a waste of time to pursue a career as a woman or that I was being immature.

[@rachel.wilson]

We were focused mainly on the western world in this show, yes.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

Uhh... your country needs women to make the babies. Create the next generation. If all women thought like you then your country's population would collapse,your culture would die out and your people would be replaced by foreigners. It's only natural that they try to discourage you from choosing that path. Imagine if ALL the men said "eehhh I don't feel like working.... or defending my country...." it wouldn't survive very long. So of course every society shames deadbeat and coward men too.

[@arturow2686]

One thing you should take in consideration is that fertility passes fast but a career can always be obtained

[@Pluvo2for1]

What country do you live in?

[@cancelled_user]

It applies mostly to the West, because Western feminists are only concerned with themselves. It's only when you ask them how they are "oppressed" today, that they realise they are not oppressed at all, so they bring up Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, just to somehow justify the existence of feminism.

[@fredpauser6228]

I read Dr Suzanne Humphries book, Who Stole Feminism, back in 1996 and found to be extremely enlightening. Now Rachel Wilson has increased my understanding of feminism even more. The honesty of both Suzanne and Rachel is even more impressive than their high intelligence and wonderful level of knowledge! I am grateful!

[@religionisapoison2413]

Tell me a book that actually challenged you and not just reinforced your position. A real man can be challenged without being lulled into some fictional echo chamber. What's a book, name one, that you read front to back that was completely opposite of what you believe. If you can't name one, go ahead and castrate yourself.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@A_R_B_Gmost people don’t respect bigotry

[@Crimson34533]

(((who)))

[@juicyjumbler]

@@AL-lh2ht most people are dumber than doorstops.

[@snakeace0]

@@A_R_B_G True, right wingers and libertarians suck at the art of cultural war. I wish they would learn from their opposition a bit. That would drastically shorten the time needed for meaningful change.

[@ProcrastPerfection]

Wow this talk is terrific. I’m so glad you brought this guest on.

[@ChrisPete123]

Watching the comments in the first ten minutes of the video having been uploaded is fascinating. It seems to be like a Rorschach test, with everybody projecting their expectation onto it without having watched even 5% of the video

[@Dsworddance22]

The preview of the interview (1st minute) is just the author spouting conservative talking points lol. It doesn't take watching the full video to know what angle/agenda this video is aiming at.

[@Bongtaker]

​@@Dsworddance22which one was a Conservative talking point

[@Dsworddance22]

@@Bongtaker 1. "Fathers are being replaced by the state and no fault divorce is accelerating that" 2. "Men are being feminized"

[@jty1999]

What if users couldn't comment until they watched the whole video?

[@Nolaman70]

​@@jty1999good idea. But in this case a 2.5 hours is too long even at 2x.

[@kgal1298]

I always appreciate these talks because people should understand multiple viewpoints, but I would like to see a follow-up with someone who has another take and research especially someone from a minority demographic because whether or not we want to admit it there is a difference between white feminism and other feminism. Also, for those of us who did study the history of it we know that feminism helped capitalism, however, I'm also re-reading The Odyssey because it's been translated by a woman and it found in that research that during its original translations, they actually did change a lot of the terms used for women and how they were presented in ancient greek times. Also, I'd argue that it does seem to be mainly white people who talk about victimization and oppression in terms of ourselves, like it's a new Olympic game while ignoring minority takes. That's just my two cents, I can't agree with Rachel because we all have our own personal biases and her views don't just come from her research, but her own experience and what she posts on social media can tell you she made up her mind, but I think by doing another interview with someone else and another take would offer a more nuanced point to this discussion.

[@christyramosortiz]

I 💯 agree with you. I feel like she had a lot of confirmation bias in this… I grew up in a single parent household and I see things very differently from her

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

I don't think WIL is ever going to do that. If you look at all of the guests/interviews he's done it becomes clear which voices he wants to showcase. It's not going to be a liberal feminist, intersectional feminist, POC feminist, or even a true radical feminist. The people in the comments saying "this opened my eyes/changed my mind" were always on the conservative side to begin with, calling her such a brilliant scholar because she puts words to things they already believed in the first place. No centrist or leftist is going to be swayed by it.

[@oboroth51]

leftists are beyond any help, no rational human worth a spit should care what they have to say@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118

[@jonescomplete]

Feminist discourse is the default in our society. It doesn't need extra representation.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@jonescomplete as long as conservatives are in power and pushing conservative legislation there will be no end to feminist discourse. From the pov of anti feminists there will always be too much feminist discourse.

[@yesismemomnahjustyouimagin3494]

I read people comments and "boy oh boy".....people really deserves to be sheep's on a heard. People don't listen to learn or to understand, people listen just to argue, and the biggest thing is that what they are arguing is all ready answered in the context of the conversation. Example: "i don't take this type of conversation seriously because of the generalizations." Really?!, so what?, you don't understand that generally men tend to be taller than woman?...yes, few people of the female population maybe taller than the average male, but that is not the norm. Generalization is need it, describes experiences and things lived by a group of people or the general population. No critical thinking skills at all....

[@visionofmalkav]

This might be the only video of yours I've seen in 5 years of following that isn't about working on oneself. I had to double check the channel when I saw it in my recommendations. Unrelated but I'd like to see your take on "flow state" someday. The topic has tons of momentum on self-improvement YT but so much of the dialogue seems like they're selling something and the scientific rational presented can be of dubious quality.

[@FortWhenTeaThyme]

Flow state is rather fascinating. Personally I believe it's just when the default mode network decides its okay to shut down during a task. There is some evidence for this, and also would likely be why microdosing psychedelics makes it easier to enter the flow state.

[@leoandolino4668]

All of your shows are fact filled and are presented in a creative, intelligent, and entertaining way. This was no exception but is one of the best interviews/conversations I have listened to. Two thumbs up!

[@kenneth6102]

This is what I needed to hear in my late teenage. I already worked out 80% of what was said with many resentments. The part that I didn't know was the most important, caving your boundaries isn't an act of love, but of only the lack of self-respect. Thank you very much for this. I hope that I will become a better father so that my kids won't make that same mistakes as I did.

[@dumdum8880]

Commenting for the algorithm. This was an amazing podcast! I really enjoyed it and am going to buy her book!

[@valCism]

Same here.

[@Treeninja01]

here here

[@lordm0918]

“They assume everything we have just kind of exists” that really hit home, not just in this argument. Like rich people. People assume Amazon is just something that’s there, and act like a ceo came in after the fact to steal money from something that should belong to all people. No understanding for where amenities come from

[@alphacause]

Thank you for this interview with Rachel Wilson. I have recently become fascinated by female scholars who are calling out feminism. Women like Louise Perry, Mary Harrington, Carrie Gress and Rachel Wilson do very incisive critiques of feminism, and they have the advantage, unlike male academics, of being immunized from the charge of male chauvinism.

[@justchilling704]

She’s a scholar?

[@quietprofessional4557]

Have you heard about Camilia Paglia, Bettina Ardnt, Christina Hoff Sommers? There have been many females calling out feminism.

[@brutalum]

Louise Perry is a f3m1nist that dislikes women like Rachel.

[@alphacause]

@@quietprofessional4557 I actually read Christina Sommers Hoff's book, The War Against Boys. I am not familiar with the other two individuals. Thank you for the recommendation.

[@u_j134s]

Writing an orthodox Christian book on occultism is considered scholarly work these days?

[@sandersson1]

This was great!! Love how your roots in diet, biology and mindset worked smoothly into this! Thanks!!

[@brendawalton2518]

Everyone should have standards and boundaries

[@MrDDiRusso]

WHY ARE THERE POP TARTS BUT NO MOM TARTS? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PASTRIARCHY! 😂

[@rachel.wilson]

😂😂😂

[@Mariam-iq4if]

As a muslim woman who has been a long term viewer of this channel, I truly appreciate you having Rachel on your platform and introducing us to her work. A lot of what was discussed resonates with what my faith teaches me. Thanks for having an open mind and presenting the results of your deep dives even if they go against the mainstream!

[@nanomia]

🤮

[@kotzikuche7883]

👍

[@switzerland]

I grow up in a Restaurant, my parents did all duties interchangeably, both for the best of all of us. I argue the real modern separation factor is the modern definition of a job.

[@justchilling704]

Facts

[@YSLRD]

Most of this didn't shock me because I discovered Anthony Sutton about 15 years ago. But there were many new details and unexplored threads. Thank you.

[@egolayer13]

This is one of the best interviews I've seen all year. It got surprisingly intimate and open at times.

[@AA-Ashley]

I really like it too. I hope it sparks a positive discourse so we can find common ground.

[@island661]

Equal rights, not special rights. Men and women are very different. People should embrace it.

[@MariaMilenovasArt]

exactly

[@AA-Ashley]

People should, it's definitely toxic to pretend men and women are the same.

[@hman2912]

Well said

[@BalaenicepsRex3]

I think maternity should be considered even though it is sex-specific.

[@deyoloco3110]

People that want privileges hide it under wanting new "rights". But a right does not overstep over some else, that is the key difference between a right and a privilege. A right does not take anything away from someone else, your right to live does not take another life, your right to speech does not take away some else's, etc. Privileges need to go over some one else to work.

[@TheAzachiel]

Unbelievably brilliant interview! I have lots to think about. Thanks.

[@TheQuickSilver101]

Kudos to you for being willing to post this. You've made yourself a target because of it. You've also made me proud to be a subscriber

[@hellyeah_ellajane]

Yep, unfortunately you’re right. There will be a lot of screeching blue-haired banshees coming for him now. But it’s really nice to see more content creators putting their values (especially the politically geared ones) out there. In a similar vein, you would probably like Benjamin Boyce, Sydney Watson, and Meghan Murphy. They’re very outspoken about their stances on these topics!

[@infinitedurr]

@28:00 re: more reliance on the state and education, what's also alarming is looking at the impact of daycare and less parental involvement in a child's early life on mental health and life outcomes decades after they were in daycare programs. Almost univerally, those who were in daycare even a little bit end up being much less functional as adults

[@juanwononeyuan]

u need more chapters/timestamps on videos this long. EDIT: thank u for adding more chapters! i paused, came back later and there was a bunch more chapters. ♥

[@brahim2462]

Amazing conversation! 👏

[@happyaccidents156]

Based on the comments I’m guessing no one tried to look up any of these claims themselves.

[@jmd448]

To check the claims you would need to check the references in her book. It definitely sounds like it's worth a read.

[@emilianomurra3959]

Ikr these most of her claims are totally insane

[@nanomia]

They didn't. Even he didn't look up the claims or challenged her. Very telling.

[@alexl8445]

The toxicity of Feminism is self evident. It distorts reality by lying saying men are oppressors and abusers of women via Patriarchy and other lies, gives women rights without responsibility, like voting without signing up for selective service, and is still trying be relevant in the pursuit of more influence and power even though women have more rights than men. That's all I need to know that this ideology is evil.

[@patricknyman727]

@@emilianomurra3959Which claims were false?

[@theundertaker5963]

This was a fantastic debut into long format podcasting! Please keep it up!

[@Lunatic89097]

A nice change of pace from your usual material.

[@TheMtb312000]

I wish this was on Spotify too

[@George_5050]

Rachel Wilson didn't suicide herself.

[@rachel.wilson]

😅

[@quietprofessional4557]

Agreed. The (((establishment))) will come after her now for exposing the truth.

[@luis1118]

What a bold move to change the channel topics so drastically, and also increase the video duration so much at the same time.

[@luis1118]

But i appreciate how you want to share the things you consider important. I like ot so far, maybe i don't love the video duration

[@hp8087]

This talk gave me lots of things to ponder and think about. I really like the idea of having a simple life, yet, I am told to get a career so that I am independent, regardless if I have a man by my side or not. Sure, this talk seems to sway towards motherhood, and I really want that for myself, but in the trajectory of my life, dating is hard and it seems like I may not find a decent man to settle down with, and all I have is my career and hobbies to keep me busy. So it made me think, if there wasn’t the feminist movement, would I still be like this? Stuck in an unfortunate cycle of finding the right partner to settle down with, or would I be able to find a man worthy to be my husband, because my expectations are lower, and that I don't know any better? Sometimes, I feel like the feminist movement is like opening Pandora's box of unknowns, and it feels like we are living in an alternate universe almost.... ok, I'm rambling now, but I enjoyed the talk nonetheless, it gave me stuff to think about.

[@kgal1298]

I think what she missed in her research is the fact that feminism is treated as it should be and should be about ownership over oneself. If you choose to give up that ownership and you have someone you trust and you want them to make the calls that's fine because you made that choice. The point is self-ownership not ruling over someone else, if moms want to be moms that's fine and there are many women who have said feminism is as such. How she somehow ignored that is amazing. Also, I have a hard time trusting someone that says they say they vote to back their husband and to cancel out feminism is her sort of trolling. I'm sorry, but I vote based on what my ethics are and what I've taught it's silly to think you need to vote for someone else. I'd also argue that if women want a husband they can find them, but I recently was watching some opinion-based videos on men wanting to go for more independent women as a weird game, but there's a lack of research in that so I'd take it with a grain of salt, but if you want a husband and you want to get married that's always an option especially if you compromise on what you want in a partner.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@@kgal1298 " How she somehow ignored that is amazing" it was intentional.

[@iridescentraindrops]

This is a conservative channel. This is propaganda against women's rights. Wake up!

[@Obviouslyced]

How is the cause of all this struggle feminism and not capitalist interest? Women chosing for themselves is not the villian. It is societal structures that make it impossible for women to chose a family, a carreer, or both.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Obviouslyced literally can only choose girl boss because capitalism made it

[@pak3211]

This was an incredible interview!!! Love it!!

[@loganwentland2696]

I typically like your content because you reference valid studies when you pull data or statistics. However, In this interview, the interviewee constantly stated data, statistics, historical facts/events without once referencing a study or how it was known that these things happened. There was even a moment where you asked her to give statistical numbers off the top of her head. This doesn’t align with your previous methods of providing research for the ideas you are offering in your content. Please reconsider your methods and reflect on your previous content and what made it great. WITH THAT SAID, I did enjoy the interview for the most part. Some interesting ideas/concepts that I’ve never thought of. But evidence or studies to back up her talking points would have made it more convincing. Half of the things she said seemed sus, biased, and opinionated.

[@rachel.wilson]

My book explains all of this in detail and includes all of the citations for the original source material. Joseph pinned a link at the top of the comments. There’s also a ton of this kind of information on my substack. Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏻

[@gilbertvale5566]

I thought so too, I love having the studies referenced as I watch

[@quietprofessional4557]

But Rachel has done the work finding the references and collecting it into a single book. One can just buy the book. Otherwise, you could make the same effort as Rachael and do it yourself if you do not want to spend the time and effort with parting from your money.

[@TheSwauzz]

If you want more details, get her book. Spending 100s of hours researching should be rewarded. Otherwise, you can find out yourself. If not, guess you didn't actually care and just wanted to be contrary.

[@ronniejunior8590]

Loved the video, very concise, informative 👏 👍

[@PeteReborn]

"Plants trying to stab you with their pokey stuff." -- Joseph 😂

[@josephflinders3503]

That cracked me up too

[@bluebusstop5608]

Was just watching David Patrick Harry's stream where Rachel was in as well. Did not expect to see her here.

[@dovolen78]

So refreshing 😌 Thank you!

[@Deserrto]

Wow, can't believe you talked to Rachel! She is awesome. Great to see her getting the visibility she deserves.

[@rachel.wilson]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@BigSlimyBlob]

I'm a carnivore, and this has on numerous occasions caused people to assume I was anti-science, climate change denier, right-wing, religious, conservative, etc. All things I very much DESPISE. Because of frequent links between the carnivore diet and right-wing nonsense, people view carnivores just as unfavorably as they do your average MAGA nutjob. This hurts us greatly. So, not gonna lie, I didn't like seeing Jordan Peterson on here (his general intellectual dishonesty being the other negative factor). And while I would have been totally fine with a video criticizing feminism (because feminism is severely flawed on multiple points), I can't possibly take it seriously when it comes from a religious conservative. This woman is pro-forced-birth, FFS. Any opinion she has on feminism is going to be heavily biased by her religious values. I love a lot of your stuff, man. I really do. The content on nutrition and climate change is fantastic. But like many other people here, I can't help but be concerned that the channel may be taking a direction that leads to a place I don't want anything to do with.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

"Pro-forced-birth"? You mean 'Not murder'. Jeez, that is one hell of a cope.

[@BigSlimyBlob]

@@shogunofharlem8240 Embryos aren't people, so it's not murder. Even if they were people (which again they are not), they wouldn't have the right to use another person as an incubator and life support machine, so again, not murder. You calling abortion "not murder" is interesting because it proves you're the one who's coping by avoiding calling it for what it is... forced birth. Or maybe you have a cute or politically correct term for a woman having to give birth against her will? A "forcie", or an "undercooperative birth provider"? You'll do anything to justify your absurd religious values and force those unreasonable values unto others.

[@papeter910]

I implore you to research the people behind feminism. The answer you will certainly find is, that feminism is a weapon. Its made to destroyd the family unit and make us all state subjects that have the state as mommy and daddy. Dont think for a second that there isnt people working day and night for absolute control of the human race.

[@information3084]

​ @BigSlimyBlob > they wouldn't have the right to use another person as an incubator and life support machine They were granted that right when that other person got themselves pregnant.

[@BigSlimyBlob]

@@information3084 Nonsense. First, again, embryos are not people. They have no rights whatsoever. If you're delusional and still believe that embryos are people, you still don't have a point. Accidental pregnancies happen, especially among married women (which represent 2/3 of the women who get abortions). You're essentially saying people should never have sex unless it's specifically for reproduction (or they're rich and can support seven kids), which is beyond unreasonable. It also opens the door to other dubious propositions. How long does this magical slavery to your offspring supposed to last? If you have to provide your own body as an incubator and life support device for a baby, shouldn't you continue to sacrifice your body for your child's well-being after they are born? Should a child be able to sue their parent for a kidney? For a heart? Does this responsibility disappear when they turn 18? Or 21? Doesn't matter. Embryos aren't people. Abortions are a harmless solution and, in many cases, the only morally justifiable way to deal with a pregnancy.

[@MegaKeonMusic]

Wow, I didn't expect Rachel to come to a channel with so many subscribers so soon. On a roll! Met you from Jamie's Out of this World podcast.

[@rachel.wilson]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@spkt1001]

Japan's case of negative population growth likely has nothing to do with Feminism. Japanese society is very traditional. It's very common for college educated women to stay home as housewifes and never go back to the workforce except for part-time roles such as supermarket cashiers etc. Most households in Japan lives on the husbands income. It might have changed a bit in the last decade due to Abenomics etc but I would say it's ridiculous to use Japan to illustrate the consequence of Feminism on population growth since the population problem of Japan started at least 3 decades earlier than the Abenomics decade.

[@nanomia]

They just use Japan or Korea to push their own aganda without researching the real reasons. Very disappointing video.

[@NataliaKarnaukh]

Changing diet and hormone disrupting chemicals are the reason for the situation in Japan.

[@spkt1001]

​@@NataliaKarnaukhInteresting theory and sounds plausible. Japanese people eats microwaved bento etc in heated plastics all the time which would indeed lead to high concentrations of endocrine disrupters in the body.

[@billusher2265]

It arguably is though, traditionally in Japanese society marriages were arranged, after America forced them to liberalize and they westernized the dating culture became more like western countries which was based on feminist reforms.

[@purpose6113]

​@@NataliaKarnaukhyou are forgetting how normalized prn consumption is over there, which is probably the main reason for it

[@Joefest99]

Thank you both for being brave enough to discuss these issues!

[@mwasheretoo7153]

This is one of my favorite guests and topics you've presented. Thank you ❤

[@Currygoatpapi]

Her saying how people describing how woman were back than being chained to a stove got me rollin 😂

[@soccerlife5041]

Her book is a gem

[@MariaMilenovasArt]

We needed this in the age of confusion

[@rathemis2927]

It's a 2h30m long video. I need to go to work tomorrow and it's 2am here. I'm watching it regardless because I have a feeling that it might be taken down soon.

[@ToxoplasmosisVsRodents]

You can add it in watch later list and watch it in on weekend.

[@soulscream6508]

Eh. Not my cup of tea. I’ll come back for the next one!

[@m.nadeem]

This was by far the best I've seen from you. Absolutely amazing!

[@Acoolakim007]

00:04:10 did anyone find this study by Joseph Miller on how feminist textbooks rewrote history?

[@christyramosortiz]

I feel like after I heard that it feels like what Florida is trying to do with spinning slavery… how beneficial it was. Rewriting history is disrespectful to those that lived it.

[@Hollera8]

Dear lord 😳 when the truth comes out. This is wild!

[@kgal1298]

Hahaha I think she's spending too much time on TikTok and taking it way too seriously.

[@Hollera8]

@kgal1298 did she say she'd done two years or five years of thorough research looking back through the texts of the suffragettes themselves. Connecting them to the fabian society in London... barely Tik Tok, is it...?

[@iridescentraindrops]

Truth according to who? Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything you watch is a perspective, not the truth.

[@Hollera8]

@iridescentraindrops hate to break it to you, but there is such thing as objective truth in this world. And if I've heard many things before this interview that i regard as being from trusted sources, and I've witnessed many more things that make no sense to me (such as much of what Rachael broke down in this interview) then I am able to regard something as the truth in my mind if it all makes logical sense to me and I've connected those dots. If a bunch of university educated people start spouting quiet radical stuff that makes no sense and catches *most of the world* off guard, and then many people manage to connect those ideologies to communist theory whose literature you can read yourself which states that they aimed to capture the education system... and then that's exactly what we see happening in front of our eyes... is that "just an opinion" or did we literally see what the communists state they planned on doing in front of our eyes?? That looks like the truth to me 🤪

[@iridescentraindrops]

@@Hollera8 There's an objective truth only when it comes to science, with things you can physically prove and demonstrate. Everything else you've described is subjective truth. And communists are not out to get you, stop falling for right wing propaganda.

[@theloneliestloveliesttime]

I'm glad this isn't just a "men are just superior, women are dumb" kind of critique, which us usually what female anti-feminist people seem to be these days.

[@JessicaOrban3606]

Agreed

[@ZappyOh]

To be fair, most people are dumb. Men and women alike. Remember, 50% of the population is at or below IQ 100. Which explains how feminism could take hold in the first place. Most people couldn't extrapolate the long term consequences.

[@arturow2686]

Never heard of any of those antis, just opinions like hers. Who are you referring to?

[@shogunofharlem8240]

​@jaybergurs 🤡 You have never heard a single word spoken by Andrew Tate, LoL

[@arturow2686]

@jaybergurs I think not even this intellectual Waterloo, has made statements like that and if where

[@wyndoellabridge6208]

Why is it i stand for everything feminism is supposed to be about, but i dont want to call myself a feminist anymore?

[@maam-yj8ph]

It's because proponents of feminism are trying to pretend feminism is egalitarianism when it's not.

[@AA-Ashley]

It's simply a loaded term. Just say you support equality for women.

[@nobody8717]

used to be that if a man hit a woman, everyone would come to her defense. Now, people buy tickets to see it happen.@@AA-Ashley

[@AA-Ashley]

I think the first case is still true, people are generally against spousal abuse. I've never heard anyone express the desire to watch it happen let alone " buy tickets"@@nobody8717

[@mostawesomedudeever1]

Women have more rights then men and are doing way better on every statistical metric. There is no wage gap, women on average work fewer hours than men that's why they get a lower level of pay when worked out as an average

[@mtMage3]

Gotta love when something is backed by Satan! Men and women are equal in value, but we are very different. When you get married you'll find out as I did! Lots of learning and serving the other person.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

"Men and women are equal in value, but we are very different." Please substantiate this claim. And by substantiate, I mean prove it in a quantifiable way, not empty rhetoric.

[@mtMage3]

@@palaceofwisdom9448 Which part do you want substantiated? That people are equal? That men and women are different? Both of these claims should be obvious.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

@@mtMage3 No, it's not "obvious" at all. It's just an empty platitude people say because it sounds nice. Substantiate that people are equal.

[@mtMage3]

@@palaceofwisdom9448 In your opinion then, which is the superior gender? Men or women?

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

@@mtMage3 That's not how this works. YOU made a claim, I asked you to substantiate it, yet you have made no attempt to do so. Now you want me to offer something of my own that you can deflect with. Back up your statement.

[@underratedbub]

One of the most insightful and necessary videos I've ever seen. Thank you both.

[@Sport_Sante]

Touchy subject 😅 I hope people will have an open minded view on this one

[@_pugito1659]

I'm a women and I loving this episode.

[@btdtpro]

Open minds are for women, as men, if you want in our steel trap minds, you gotta get past the hard facts and logic. But you know what, everything this woman said checks out, I don't even need to see the research or look into it myself, my common sense tells me all I need to know, and common sense isn't the same a feelings, it's sense, which is different and better. Far men than what women do, which is suited for raising children, but not the real world.

[@AA-Ashley]

Definitely. I hope people are kind even if they disagree like I do.

[@Kunoichi139]

I didn't realize i was shi* testing at the beginning of my marriage. And finally my husband drew the boundary line, said "no, stop," and i was surprised at first, but I realized I was out of line.

[@quietprofessional4557]

Like most women.

[@sana.4.a]

@@quietprofessional4557that was unnecessary

[@RheaMainz]

@@quietprofessional4557 She recognised and admitted to her mistakes, what else do you want?

[@ratttttyyy]

The part towards the end around 2:10, she just explained, in my opinion, the cause of my brother's mental health issues. Never had enough adversity in his life until the fact and then couldn't hack it thereafter.

[@timothyelems1357]

Intro had me hooked!

[@kennwin]

Wow, this goes way further back than expected. I feel we are too far gone now tho. It’s going to be a long time before people wake-up and feel strong enough to make a change 😢

[@nobody8717]

raise strong independent children who can think for themselves, and the rest will fall into place. it's curious how population replacement rates work.

[@juanwononeyuan]

when change happens, it happens so fast the world gets whiplash. the communists time is running out, everyday we get closer to revolution.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

There is nothing anyone can do, other than a complete reset. There is a reason why every single civilization that has ever existed was a 'patriarchy' and has disallowed women from having political power.

[@novacaine_]

This interview has a very narrow definition of feminism and does not include intersectional feminism. Also this persons understanding of private property under marxism seems to conflate personal property with that definition when texts make a clear differentiation. Her views are quite interesting honestly

[@pauljackways1473]

intersectional feminism?

[@novacaine_]

​@@pauljackways1473it's a framework for understanding how social categorizations such as race, class, and gender are interdependent and create systems of discrimination or disadvantage and even privilege. Example is like a poor white woman whose class and being a woman should be taken into consideration when tackling systems which work against them. Same if you were a poor or rich black women etc.

[@codeisme]

Anything that spawned from Marxism is predicated on flawed logic and a terrible understanding of basic economics

[@novacaine_]

​@@codeismemmm Marx was pretty accurate as to the state of capitalism and how it would progress, and if anything had a better understanding than modern day economists. Not that I agree with everything he said. But saying Marxism is so broad, lets be measured

[@shogunofharlem8240]

​@@novacaine_ 🤡

[@tomaslobos1326]

years ago i thought this channel was a great place to find interesting topics on scientific and psychological stuff. now i just think it is the biggest example of anti intellectualism I've seen on youtube. 2020 was truly a year for the sanity of some people, especially the ones with right wing tendencies

[@The_Average_YouTube_Enjoyer]

because it doesn't fit your views doesn't mean it's anti-intellectualism. Call people right wing because you disagree with them is the most anti-intellectualism one can do. pls evaluate your life

[@tomaslobos1326]

@@The_Average_KZbin_Enjoyer this comment comes purely from a deeply evaluation of my life. and yeah, maybe not so much anti intellectualism as much as pseudo intellectualism

[@nanomia]

Agree

[@SagaciousBoothe]

2:03:47 Men should be more emotional is such a funny statement. Anger is an emotion. is that what they want? Depressed? Happy? Fearful? Guilty? Emotions are a broad topic

[@bublt4me]

Men should express other emotions besides anger, reflect on them, and be encouraged to discuss them, rather than to be just "more emotional" I agree, the statement is too vague and doesn't tackle the issue head on.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

​@@bublt4me 🤡🤡🤡

[@mrstaticgroovy7400]

I don’t need a 2 hour video to back up what o see on a daily basis

[@btdtpro]

Me too Vegeta. If they can't handle us at out power level 9000, they don't deserve us at our Yamcha

[@Handle35667]

I found her analysis of anime fanboys to be particularly insightful.

[@which_craft]

The occultist Rockefeller foundation injecting false information into the academia and thus around the world?

[@jobobminer8843]

Note to self 1:56:50

[@philmariop]

Incentives drive outcomes. Change the incentives for different outcomes. Social engineer again to repair the damage. The path forward might not be a return to the earlier status quo. IIRC Hungary has implemented very aggressive pro-birth & family initiatives.

[@travv88]

Yes.

[@pyroromancer]

yeah my grandmother always said "modern feminism is not feminsim" she would never elaborate, but she had quite the tongue for present-day Hollywood regarding feminism.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

Your grandmother was just as brainwashed and ignorant on the subject as women are today. Try asking your grand-grandmother what it was like when Feminism was first introduced and how many women actually were interested in "being equal". The "waves" of Feminism is one of the biggest pile of crocks ever fed to us. Just another one of those Big Lies.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

Feminism never changed, it was always about female dominance. The fact that it took several generations for that goal to be fully realized doesn't mean that it wasn't the goal from the beginning.

[@GK123]

​@@palaceofwisdom9448exactly, they got the right to vote and work, without the responsibility of being called up for war

[@TheSwauzz]

​@@GK123Stop putting genders against each other and feeding the machine. Don't you understand we are cogs to the wealthy elite? Time to recognize everyone and accept them.

[@user-ts7io2dd1t]

This is sooooo interesting!

[@clk3]

well you might be right for America women on 16:00 that they could do stuff and go to school, it wasn't here on Balkans, women were treated worse than cattle so I am thankful for all the rights and almost equality that we got now, I am more than happy to work, have say who and when I marry, not get beaten for speaking up and not having 10 children at age of 27.

[@iridescentraindrop]

Yes. Thank you. These privileged white conservative women are delusional to the conditions women were living in before feminism.

[@nanomia]

They think USA is the center of the universe and that feminism only exist in USA or the west. So ignorant.

[@alexl8445]

When one says "women were treated worse than cattle." and think the majority of men were abusers shows they no nothing of history. Keep living in your delusional fantasy world where you think men oppressed women because they "didn't let them" go out to hunt wild animals and do worse physical labor in the past. How oppressive. I bet you think democracies, college degrees, the "right to vote", credit cards, computers, office jobs, etc. existed ever since "women were treated worse than cattle." and that women created all of this and "liberated" themselves by fighting in a war against their abusers, the patriarchy. Men going to school / work wasn't to benefit themselves. It was so that they provided for their society and families. But for some of you modern women it's all about yourselves thanks to Feminism, the narcissistic ideology. Go get your career and be "independent", even though you really aren't, and leave the rest of us who want live in harmony between men and women alone.

[@nosferiazafora]

What a terrible view of the world, Western White countries were much better 100 years ago, much better than your description of the Balkans as well, obviously. It's so disgusting to see outsiders ignore the destruction of our countries and Civilization just because they recently it had it worse outside of it. Millions like you pouring in to our boarders/coasts, totally complacent with the status quo. Xenophobia and racism doesn't come from nowhere, remember that.

[@andrijaarezina4918]

A gdje na balkanu ????

[@AntonioBrandao]

Delighted to see this video on this channel. Thank you!!!

[@Hoojammyflip]

Thanks Joseph... I only watched this topic because you were doing the interview - but qudos to Rachel - a fascinating discussion of the history of this topic - Many thanks - subscribed to your substack 👍

[@1timbarrett]

I too came here for Joseph, but left with the bonus discovery of Rachel. Thanks to all! 🙏

[@josh1mark]

No.

[@kostiesaba3871]

Long time watcher of this channel here! Yet again, awesome video! Rachel has helped me connect dots in history that absolutely blew my mind. Always looking forward to your stuff!

[@callousedliver1004]

Hot darn, when did Joseph get based? I was delighted to watch this. Your videos completely pulled the wool of my eyes with regards to nutrition and health, and I have loved all your videos throughout the years. If you can help people escape these kinds of self-destructive ideologies, you will be helping tenfold more people than the considerable number of people that you have already helped. I imagine you'll cope some blow back from this video, but remember it's pretty much all manufactured. Us commonfolk are behind you. If I chance to see you in Hachioji, I'll take great preasure in shaking your hand.

[@All_About_English]

Great to hear this very interesting podcast to put some facts to things I'd always expected.

[@RheaMainz]

This is one captivating interview! Rachel Wilson is remarkably well studied on statistics and history. She's sharp on responding to questions and she has 5 kids, so she's clearly a model when it comes to intelligent and feminine women!

[@Junpir]

Does she have an image of the Virgin Mary in the background?

[@rachel.wilson]

Yes 😊

[@BigSlimyBlob]

Unfortunately yes.

[@kgal1298]

She's definitely Christian. People should probably Google some of the people he has on to make sure they understand why some of them may be controversial...for the record her religion isn't the controversial part just a bit about her you'd know if you Googled.

[@TheSwauzz]

​@@kgal1298Why is being a Christian an issue?

[@beezybless]

She had me til she started trashing Terence McKenna lol

[@theonlyconstantischange123]

Lmaoo I was like nooooooo 😂 😭 Not my boy Lol but to his credit, Terrance wouldn't give a damn. Life is too strange to care. Plus I can definitely see him leaning in the simp/matriarchy direction. Everything with a grain of salt

[@user-eh5cp2qy7y]

listened to it as i was drawing, i enjoy doing that. i actually listened and gave attention for once, enjoyed it and learned a bit from it. ty.

[@bobowon5450]

what were you drawing? 🤔

[@brendawalton2518]

Toxic masculinity is toxic. Not all masculinity is toxic. Feelings are valid. Not all actions are.

[@MrBitterestTexas]

What masculine trait is toxic? And what feminine traits are toxic? I could name a few. But let me guess though. Women are sugar, spice and everything nice. They have no flaws.

[@jameslave98]

Dweeb

[@No1shigeokageyamafan]

​@MrBitterestTexas toxic masculine traits are when u nan feels the need to always be above a women and always dominate a women the idea of a women to being subservient to him makes him mad and that's toxic

[@purpose6113]

Toxic masculinity derives from hypergamy and the demand from women for hypermasculine men

[@adhardino9781]

Unbelievably important to demistify feminist ideologies, thanks a lot for sharing this

[@Mmk12a]

It's frustrating to hear all these generalizations about men and women. Obviously there are biological differences between the two, and obviously men *tend* to behave one way while women *tend* to behave another, but assuming that all men are one way while all women are another is an inaccurate view. I think women and men should have equal opportunities, but shouldn't be pressured to take up a certain role. If a woman wants to be a mom, go ahead it doesn't make you less of a woman; but if a woman doesn't want kids and wants to pursue a career, go ahead it doesn't make you any less of a woman. And if a man wanted to be a stay at home dad, go ahead it doesn't make him any less of a man. And I do think both parents should be able to pursue a career if they want, as long as they are putting aside enough time to spend with their kids; and that will prevent them from putting 100% into their careers, but that is okay, and should've been considered before they even had kids anyway. The guest on this video talks about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but as long as the parents are involved enough in the child's life, they should be able to teach kids about more controversial topics; and the teacher would most likely get in trouble if they were heavily politically biased to young children anyway. And homeschooling usually stunts a child's social development. As for the topic of divorce, it is sad to see how some women will try to get so much of the man's money, but the divorce lawyers also exploit this possibility for their customers. There are both many women and many men who need to develop their morals and emotional maturity. This ties in with the discussion about men having boundaries. Of course, everyone should have boundaries, it's the healthy thing to do. And both men and women should be able to have control of their emotions and express them appropriately, as it's the healthy thing to do as well. So in general, I think we need to focus less on "men and women", and more on the individual, and how each individual should strive to be the best version of his/herself regardless of expectations put on them by society.

[@justchilling704]

I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. It’s why I can’t take these conversations seriously.

[@shogunofharlem8240]

I don't disagree with you regarding what SHOULD be the case, but reality does not operate by way of what SHOULD be but by way of what IS. You sound like you need to open your eyes a bit to what is actually going on in the West at today.

[@YSLRD]

Much of the societal pressure is subtle. There are certain observable biological likelihoods. We've become a society that glorifies the outliers, rather than respectfully permitting them while recognizing the exception. Healthy women have a very high probability of wanting motherhood, and that pattern is healthy for society. OOPS! I admittedly didn't read your book. As I posted, I caught your comment on home school. If you are that uninformed, I can't help you.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Mmk12a look at my anime pfps bro

[@salj.5459]

More individualism is exactly what we DON'T need.