Feminist Hijabi DEBATE | Should Muslim Women Go to College?

[@MuslimSkeptic]

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[@nicoletteferragamo]

This is why you don't a debate a Jahil nobody, no manners, slander, false accusations, projecting insecurities, deflecting and pivoting instead of answering questions.

[@kamalali1924]

DH I have asked MDD many times to arrange a debate between me and you but you have never answered. I'd like to prove that you have zero knowledge of Islam. I am writing you from a different channel because KZbin censur my comments. My channel is The Perfect Dawah. Please contact me and arrange a debate. All extremists are afraid of me including Apostate Prophet. I hope you are not.

[@amirulafiq4371]

Bro Daniel are you gonna make a review like you always do? There are "points" she made that deserve clarification. Conveniently she didn't let you have your time.

[@__sarik]

@@Ibn_Abdulaziz the topic was not about education, it was about going to college. Also, I wouldnt learn mechanical engineering from someone who dont even know basic statistics.

[@__sarik]

@@Ibn_Abdulaziz i support homeschooling and not going to college not only for women but for men too. There is big difference between modern day scam colleges and the universities that our ancestors studied in the golden age. Also, even though she pretends to be a not feminist, her behaviour just reminding me the most toxic feminists

[@the50coach]

I’m born and living in UAE and the fact that she says people here are illiterate is outrageous 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ I can’t believe she’s lying and actually accusing you with all these bad labels just in order to prove her point! May Allah guide her

[@clashofchampsoo2697]

Are you a local Emirati or an expat

[@Oliver_Klozoff69]

@@clashofchampsoo2697 probably a local Emirati since his channel is in Arabic

[@the50coach]

No brothers , I’m originally syrian but I’m born in UAE

[@islamicreminders3090]

I studied you Daniel for one year 😆 imagine all the family time she had to sacrifice. That's if feminist have families 😂 even after 1 year of study she still lost miserably 😂😂😂

[@believer0001]

@@islamicreminders3090 Define Patriarchy - Daniel Haqiqatjou Legends say, Sabreen - still finding a definition of Patriarchy thar suits her agenda lol. Cat food - legend Daniel. 💥 🔥 🔥

[@shadowstorm5261]

Instead of studying islam for a year, she decided to study this man for a year and still lost.

[@altheaequatorin1179]

PHD in Daniel Studies, as one commenter had summed up beautifully

[@protec-surveillance]

🤣🤣🤣

[@beluga2520]

@D////// She failed with distinction. I haven't seen any cat in my career bringing that level of embarrassment to our community.

[@aldenpadilla1773]

She studied him for a year doesn't mean she didn't study islam. Umm Salama(ra): Why are women not mentioned in Quran like men are? Daniel fanbois be like: ah you feminist 😡, your speech says everything.

[@hxyzazolchak]

Daniel haqiqatology

[@aimanshafqat]

“ When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish. ” ( Al- Qur' ān, 17: 81 )

[@mimmiekgaditse3089]

The Sun sets in a pool of murky water-Quran 18:86, truth or falsehood.

[@statixlaw5675]

@@mimmiekgaditse3089 Thats from the perspective of Dhul Qarnain who conquered from east to west.

[@SayfumaniMyG]

@@mimmiekgaditse3089 God banging his mom/sister, begging on the cross to god for help and than beeing killed by pagans, truth or falsehood?

[@mimmiekgaditse3089]

@Hidetaka Miyazaki I’ve heard plenty Muslims try to explain this embarrassment to no avail. What’s your preferred attempt at a refutation? Give it your best shot. Allah says it’s your duty to educate this poor infidel.

[@mimmiekgaditse3089]

@@statixlaw5675 so from that perspective the sun not only travels but it sets on the Earth near a people in some water? Also what does Alexander the great have to do with Islam?

[@NormalPersonIhope]

In my 20’s I would have disagreed with Daniel 100%, but now that I’m older , he is right! University is not education it’s indoctrination

[@Lastofusfan777]

Well you’re wrong , that’s a problem with the institution but education in and of itself is not a problem. Nothing good about being illiterate or uninformed about the natural sciences /or history.

[@NormalPersonIhope]

@@Lastofusfan777 you should be educated yes but lets not pretend women are getting phd's in science or law or engineering to raise children, I myself don't really use any of that in my day to day life and wish I had learnt something that would actually benefit me , the universities right now are useless, we need a better system to get education

[@Lastofusfan777]

@@NormalPersonIhope it’s good to be well rounded, not every woman needs a phd in chemistry I get that but people in general not just women, men and women need to be educated. I say this because I am in Egypt now and some men and women don’t even know how to read and write and they’re so sad about this. But literally Harvard graduates are talking about yeah education is bs blah blah blah. They just haven’t seen the other side. We shouldn’t take a black or white opinion on the matter, balance & moderation is important.

[@NormalPersonIhope]

@@Lastofusfan777 I agree with you

[@colinroach7815]

It is indoctrination, yet you recognise any Muslim brother with such a degree, and then on the back of it, you now agree with bro. Daniel, who apparently believes that women shouldn't be educated based on his definition of "education" and what it MAY lead to.

[@__sarik]

That lady doesnt even know what debate is. Throughout the video she was offtopic, and just read the slides that she brought up like a boring teacher in college. It was too much cringe too watch actually, and I pray to Allah to give patience and sabr for the Daniel bro and his family. Keep up brother. Big respect from Uzbekistan

[@qodirbekxusanov7119]

Wow I am happy that people from Uzbekistan listen brother Daniel. I am also Uzbek)

[@__sarik]

@@qodirbekxusanov7119 Assalomu aleykum, bormisiz aka ))

[@qodirbekxusanov7119]

@@__sarik Va alaykum salom. Rahmat. Siz Uzb ni qaysi viloyatidansiz? Men andijonlikman

[@nanashi2146]

@@qodirbekxusanov7119 Uzbekistan was where Imam Buhkari RA was born (Bukhara). A land of rich scholarly tradition 🙂

[@ultra_instinct7655]

She didn't sound like she wanted a healthy discussion, she was here for point scoring, typical unbearable feminist

[@MCXM111]

I feel sorry for her husband. She is not too bright, very annoying, gets too emotional and nonsense keeps coming out of her mouth all the time. Probably can't cook and clean. She hasn't addressed any of points Daniel made. She just proved that feminism is stupid 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@nickslav20]

@@MCXM111 i feel sorry for muslim women can't experience beaches amusement parks water parks prob don't even know what an orgasm is seeing they can't say no to their men's needs sounds more like a slave than a queen

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

Holding a discussion with Muslims about Islam is flawed in the first place since Muslims will always defend their religious beliefs no matter if the facts are in their favor or not since they only believe what is written in their holy book.

[@zidandawood7923]

Yep big loss LLLLL

[@Ex-Atheist_Sonya]

I was actually a fan of Safiyyah for years now. This debate proved I was wrong all these years. Thanks for opening my eyes brother Daniel.

[@-hor]

Sure we follow Quran and sunna not people

[@baabmansour]

Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal رحمه الله mentioned “Do not uncritically follow me, nor Malik, nor Al-Thawri, nor Al-Awza’i. Rather, take from where they took.” Source: Jāmiʻ Bayān al-ʻIlm wa Faḍlihi 1299 عن ابن عبد البر قال أحمد بن حنبل رحمه الله رَأْيُ الأَوْزَاعِيِّ وَرَأْيُ مَالِكٍ وَرَأْيُ سُفْيَانَ كُلُّهُ رَأَيٌ وَهُوَ عِنْدِي سَوَاءٌ وَإِنَّمَا الْحُجَّةُ فِي الآثَارِ وفي رواية أخرى قال لَا تُقَلِّدْنِي وَلَا تُقَلِّدْ مَالِكًا وَلَا الثَّوْرِيَّ وَلَا الْأَوْزَاعِيَّ وَخُذْ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَخَذُوا 1299 جامع بيان العلم وفضله لابن عبد البر

[@-hor]

@@baabmansour جزاك الله خيرا

[@-hor]

and Allah who opened ur eyes

[@ismailah4576]

may Allah bless and guide you AsalamUAILAYKUM.

[@zenebusman8575]

Bismillah, as a Muslim woman myself, I am shocked with this woman.

[@zariftahmid9854]

Im more shocked when denial said he don't believe in Women's education.

[@zenebusman8575]

@@zariftahmid9854 That's rubbish 🗑

[@zariftahmid9854]

@@zenebusman8575 I don’t think You're a women. Btw education is needed bc without education a women is lost in this world. She can't work, she can't do nothing by her self. Forget about a career. Even for being a house wife women need education.. As a Astrophysicist i don’t want my wife to be a con women who can't even decides for her self. A educated man don’t want to marry a brick wall. I need a women who is computable with my standards. without education you can't even communicate with people. As a women You're giving up ur Islamic rights of education.

[@randomhuman2595]

It is halal for women to be educated

[@zenebusman8575]

@@randomhuman2595 Nothing wrong with women being educated. That women is an embarrassment 😳

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:31 - Format of the Debate 1:47 - Sorting out Saffiyah's Audio 7:53 - Opening statement from Saffiyah 19:36 - Opening statement from Daniel 32:46 - 5 minute response from Saffiyah 38:32 - 5 minute response from Daniel 44:27 - Daniel using only America's statistics 46:14 - Saffiyah's Objections to Daniel's Fitnah Arguments 49:46 - Daniel's critique of Muslim Women needing to go Universities 53:17 - The example of Muhammad ﷺ teaching women 54:45 - History of women in Madarsas 55:45 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's arguments 1:00:21 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's allegations 1:01:28 - Lack of citations of large presence of Women in the Madarsas 1:03:39 - Challenges to Studying Islam in Pre-Modern times 1:04:55 - Segregation of Sexes in Islam 1:06:41 - Historical accounts of education of women, their Segregation & traveling 1:08:11 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's Fertility argument 1:11:03 - Saffiyah's response to Lower Marriage Value Women 1:14:04 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's arguments 1:16:10 - Daniel explains the Lower Marriage Value Women & Islamic view of suitable spouse 1:20:41 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's arguments 1:23:03 - Saffiyah's critique of Daniel's Article 1:25:36 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's argument of Gender Inclusive language 1:27:02 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's accusations 1:27:45 - Daniel explains the Dropping Fertility & Marriage Rates among Muslim Women 1:29:17 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's arguments 1:32:04 - Saffiyah drops out & Daniel addresses the chat 1:33:16 - Daniel explains the problems with Feminism & the beauty of Islamic model of life 1:39:24 - Saffiyah joins again & deciding the way forward of the debate 1:40:27 - Saffiyah studying about Daniel for one year 1:41:27 - Saffiyah's critique of Daniel's views on Feminism & his work 1:43:33 - Saffiyah claims that Daniel is a Men's Rights Activist & a R*pe Apologist 1:48:23 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's accusations 1:49:57 - Saffiyah & Daniel discuss Patriarchy vs Qawwamah in Islam 1:56:31 - Saffiyah slanders Daniel 1:57:18 - Saffiyah's Closing Remarks 2:03:45 - Discussion on Saffiyah not being married & the problems of Late Marriages 2:08:09 - Saffiyah Rage quits the discussion 2:08:30 - Daniel scrutinizes the discussion & the Dangers of Feminism 2:10:10 - Daniel explains the managing of the need of Muslim Female Doctors in Islamic Societies 2:15:03 - The Cherry Picking & distorting of Islamic History by the Muslim Feminists 2:16:26 - Daniel's Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖 Very Informative & Insightful Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 May Allah ﷻ guide the Ummah 🤲🏻

[@thairinkhudr4259]

Jazaakallah brother. Some bros and sis on Blogging Theology channel are wondering where you were. Hopefully you are good and well.

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

@@thairinkhudr4259 وَإِيَّاك‎ أَخِي‎ ❤️ I'm fine Alhumdulliah 😊👍🏻

[@PaperMicShow]

Bless u ,, daniel should put this in the video info

[@Killabeethev]

God bless you, brother

[@naimajama8465]

Thanks

[@OG_Jin_Bling]

I didn't like the ending, but I confess to laughing, and the line was crossed from start to finish with the personal attacks and *especially* with the 9/11 comments. Completely inappropriate. BTW, I like cats too, so if she has one no need to feel bad 😞

[@hudycat]

Must watch for every sister and parent. As a sister, What I learned from this debate, as a summary, is that we sisters have to firstly stick to our priorities, our roles in Islam (I.e. family obligations). Everything else (talents, studies) comes secondary. By all means, pursue education (Islamic and non-Islamic) or maybe even career, if need be, as long as it doesn’t override our true priorities (raising families in a strong, stable Islamic background) and we don’t have to be in a constant mixed environment with the non-mahrams. As Brother Daniel said, we don’t have to go down the same lizard hole as the west to pursue an education, there are other possible means to achieve it. I hope I understood it, or at least some of it well. The feminist/Islamic clash can be very confusing. I just recognize my priorities, and imma stick to them, in sha Allah.

[@irshadtarsoo7734]

Ameen

[@thealpha1687]

@Wiznsjs Didnejs She is already married.

[@thealpha1687]

Mashaallah, sister. May Allah bless you!

[@mohammedodah4274]

Jazaki Allah my syster, wonderful comment. Exactly what I understood from this debate as well. Jazaki Allah syster! May He keep us steadfast 🙏

[@ayeikareviews6127]

Yes!!

[@muslimninja9017]

This man Daniel is such an inspiration, every single word of his in this video made me almost cry out of happiness because this is the type of person we need in our society,such an amazing individual may Allah grant him the highest rank in jannah.ameen

[@galga523]

ameen.Allohumma barik

[@Naatchooe]

She engaged in: - personal ad-hominems - straw-men -false middle ground fallacy -Texas-sharp shooter fallacy and constant interruptions on top of being disrespectful throughout the "debate" 🙄🙄🙄 [ If you're gonna do an analysis of this please address her misapprehension of your stance toward this post-modernist or liberal notion of "informed consent" - which is most likely where her confusion lies - and also the Shari'ah's punishment of rape - stranger or maritial - and the Tafseel in there, because she made mockery out of this crime and merely used it as "name drop"-material against you for shock value. ]

[@Muwahid999]

Buddy where are these complicated terms derived from (are these taught in philosophy)???

[@Naatchooe]

@@Muwahid999 These are logical fallacies, meaning errors in reasoning that are committed qhen making an argument. They have sometimes multiple names so you might be aware of them by a different name.

[@SIGSEGV1337]

also gish galloping

[@aqsaomar5942]

She seems really arrogant

[@ZubairAhmed-od2xv]

ما شا الله عليك أحسنت و الله أحسنت.. فيك حماسة يا بطل وفقكم الله.

[@haydeelo9016]

ive regret goin to uni and waste 5 yrs of my life studying for nothing basically.. as i am now a fulltime mother, submissive wife and trying to be the best i can for my family.. if i can turn back the time,i would have studied islam instead and not care about getting a diploma..but growing up and raised by my chinese family is impossible..i can earn good money if i wanted to,but ive chose to be a wife,a mother and to stay at home than chasing dunya..for the best place for women is inside her home and not being seen by men ..quran and sunnah is there to protect women,a guide to have a successful life fid dunya wal akhira and not to harm us .i dont know how can people reject this and ignore there roles in islam..i dont know why would they want to chase this dunya which is temporary and offering them nothing but hellfire.. may Allah swt guide us all and make us among His righteous slaves ameen..

[@heythere9554]

How much education is enough for women. Should they study till 12th class only (high school only )

[@thealpha1687]

Ameen. Well said, sister!

[@nobody22227]

@@heythere9554 at any point in which it is necessary

[@kakarote100]

@@heythere9554 If you weren't listening Daniel was against the entire western education system. Diploma, Phd falls under this category. If you can implement an Islamic education system, women can have their education as long as they like, because that system itself would prioritize family over one's own wants. It's the kind of education system that doesn't exist, thanks to secularization of the Muslim society.

[@haydeelo9016]

nothing compares being a good house wife and a mother than having a degree or career..serving your family and attending to there needs, for me that is a true pleasure and happiness ..as i know my purpose and know my roles..my husband for me is either my jannah or jahannam and i acknowledge his authority over me,i wouldnt dare disobey him unless he would ask something that is not permissible but Alhamdulillah as Allah swt have bless me with someone who is practicing his deen and wants nothing but good for me and my deen..

[@missmong12]

I'm honestly angry. The endless slander towards Daniel, prior the debate, during the debate and after the debate is sickening. Wallahi, I'm sick. As a 20 year old female, I'm scared and I'm really really sad watching how Muslim women carry themselves these days. Why are we like this, even when provided with evidence especially from the Quran and Sunnah, we still shake our heads and nod to the western ideologies merely because it makes us feel empowered. Edit : I'm not against women going to university btw, there's nothing wrong with women gaining knowledge. Daniel's arguments is full of what ifs, it's all built around assumptions. She will be educated and arrogant, standard of man gets raised, she will become a feminist which is so stupid. I'm from a third world coutries girls here couldn't give less crap about feminism. This whole argument shouldn't revolve around religion. It's just a personal preference/opinion. To me it's a waste of time because I know what I'm gonna do. It could be good for others.

[@khyun125-o6j]

1:55:55 The narration she quoted from Kanz Al-Ummal about Khawla bint Qays is not even authentic (Al-Waqidi is not a reliable narrator).

[@Radec913]

Genuine quesiton, does it make you feel empowered?

[@khyun125-o6j]

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 This makes me curious about her background. Is she an Arab? Where did she come from? Where did she study Islam?

[@PrivateUnknownAnonymous]

MashaAllah sister, well said. Im a 20 year old guy and I appreciate girls like you who are honest. Thank u

[@satti80]

This feminist sister only speaks for her self sister. She doesn't represent all Muslims. She isn't even educated in Islam. She takes some ahadith and leaves others. That's ABC mistake for a Muslim.

[@Rapidre4dreviews]

The amount of patience and politeness our brother had in this debate is really appreciable.

[@Mokingjay369]

You mean rudeness did you ses how he humilitaed her ?

[@rasheedromero5127]

I wish he was ruder

[@kimiko6732]

He’s garbage 🤢

[@xinobiee]

​@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543i see you everywhere.... Even in farid responds videos

[@beluga2520]

Daniel: What's the definition of Patriarchy? Catwoman: Who cares? Daniel: Then how could you define it wrong according to the Islamic context? Catwoman: Let's not talk about that. Goes on, Post memes. *Sums up the debate*

[@wawawick247]

You should marry her Beluga. Seems like a perfect match.

[@Nomad_786]

Shes made some stupid points and flopped in the debate,but don't bully and name call. It's not beffiting of a Muslim to act like this.

[@hackluster]

this comment wraps up this debate pretty well

[@hudycat]

Exactly. It was pretty unnerving the lady kept ignoring the questions.

[@beluga2520]

@sawaali 🌼 Unfortunately not.

[@BizzBizz69]

I felt bad for her, not even because of Daniel mentally destroying her but because of what she's fallen into and what she's trying to defend.

[@sayeeed1303]

She is a false *ape accuser.

[@beluga2520]

@@aliah8330 Go and check her channel then and see if anyone agrees with her stance. Lol! Even Non-Muslims didn't came up to support her. It was that sorta embarrassing debate for her.

[@posintabook597]

@@aliah8330 you made because islam was proved to be patriarchal to the core 🥺 ?

[@beluga2520]

@@ummerfarooq5383 Poor Cat*

[@beluga2520]

@@aliah8330 She posted the video on her channel. This debate was announced weeks before. Every Islamophobe knew it lol. It's good to defend her embarrassment but you shouldn't stretch it that much.

[@Cashmoney2015]

As soon as she said I’m not married, everything made sense.

[@lionelmessi4953]

this stigmatization of non-marriage is what makes people depressed and suicidal in our society. stoop it

[@boygenius538_8]

@@lionelmessi4953 no

[@lionelmessi4953]

@@boygenius538_8 advocating for marriage =/= this person is bad because they're not married. Many married people are vile and hold abhorrent views. It has nothing to do with marriage. @Ukash Jeilani is just discriminating and bullying people. What he's even insinuating between the lines is that a man will check her and not let her share her views this freely. He's not a good person, and stigmatization of non-married people is definitely not good whether you're a huge marriage advocate or lenient. Either way @Ukash Jeilani does not look good here.

[@sparrow3491]

@@lionelmessi4953 women want marriage and children that's just simpel biology. So no stop being a simp.

[@farhanroll7144]

yes

[@ashikelahie6035]

Man, watching all the disgusting remarks and personal attacks she made about Daniel made my blood boil, yet Daniel being calm and composed is truly praiseworthy. It's like she didn't come here for civil debate rather she had ill intent. She disregarded all the factual data presented by Daniel, while she showed nothing but whinging and attacking Daniel. The fact that she is a Muslim woman made this really sad. What our sisters are becoming! Thank you Denial for your great work. I'm a new subscriber and really loved what you do. I have binged watched all of your videos. It really changed my perspective on many things and Inshallah will make me a better Muslim. May Allah bless you and your family. May Allah guide this sister to the right path.

[@turonwhitfield7917]

That's what feminist do shame ,sign language ,insults and the need to be rite .

[@BoleDaPole]

Forgive her for she know not what she does. She's just another victim of liberalization and modernity.

[@abdulaslam2277]

​​​@@BoleDaPole brother these types of females do not deserve forgiveness, i mean Allah SWT is Rehman and Raheem but us as humans especially Muslims should not tolerate this kind of disgusting approach and behaviour which is creating a false image of how educated Muslim women engage in a debate. Forgiveness and acceptance has caused the situation to be worsened rather than understanding that if someone is trying to forgive you, the person should be grateful towards the forgiver, but instead we get these so called muslimahs like this woman here who are literally a walking definition of what ungratefulness is. May Allah SWT guide everyone who deserves to be guided.

[@babyboss8231]

She's a faminist but don't want to accept that

[@mnmussu]

The debate is over? I am still waiting for her citations she promised to give in the beginning...

[@MohammedAlSharif2002]

This is one of the best debates I’ve ever seen. Daniel totally won, but I disagree with the way some people in the comments were insulting her, because at the end of the day she’s a Muslim sister.

[@juxtapositionMS]

If she doesn't believe in Miraj she isn't a Muslim anymore.

[@MohammedAlSharif2002]

@@juxtapositionMS she doesn’t believe in it?

[@ahmadqazi2648]

@@ummerfarooq5383 Change your name to Om Frog

[@juxtapositionMS]

@@Jorjina.hayatt Daniel encourages for feminists to be insulted.

[@WolphL0]

@@juxtapositionMS Does she reject the Mi'raj entirely or does she have a different view of it? Like, does she think it was a vision or a dream or something?

[@geeenzee1152]

She's living prroof for all of Daniel's arguements.

[@thealpha1687]

💯!

[@ladymuslima4956]

Agree

[@windrasshean]

Exactly what I thought.

[@PaperMicShow]

Savage

[@imalawaaa6778]

I'm a muslim women in my final year studying Architectural Engineering. I was pressured by my family and society to go into higher education without really grasping the reality of the journey ahead. The system of higher education is designed for you to feel constantly stressed while simultaneously not learning much at all. It was only by my third year that I actually started to learn any valuable engineered skills, and by that time, I had already wasted so much of my time and energy learning abstract ideas that I could never really utilize in my day to day life. Most women (muslim and non muslim) in this major complain about the work load and struggle more in comparison to our male colleagues, all while not having to raise a family. This is because it goes against our nature of working/thinking like a man for long periods. The higher education model, especially in the field of engineering, does not benefit women in the long run. It does not prepare her for raising children, managing a house, cooking meals, etc. These are skills that are NEEDED to raise the next generation of healthy Muslims. But when that is lacking, and all you have is a degree in a field that is designed to make a women feel constantly exhausted, then you know that it's a failed system.

[@gwledosman9744]

Living stressed while exposed to men at that age opens doors 🚪 of Zina and all kinds of evil

[@sumayahasif6941]

May Allah make it easy for you ❤

[@W.Suhail32]

Replies Is blocked for Western Woke Extremists organisation (WWE) and FEDERAL Foundation of Feminists(FFF).

[@Ummati-Ummati]

I'm from Mauritania 🇲🇷 Even here marriages are done a lot later than it was done just a decade ago. Mainly because a lot of young men and women prioritize university to getting married. So it's not just an American issue. As brother Daniel said the Muslim world imported the western educational model. Which came with issues that we and the next generations will have to deal with.

[@JunaidSalehHayat]

Same issue here in Pakistan.

[@tomolo2619]

***True love = the love of God!*** God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being Philippians 2:5-8

[@axch2983]

so that's the Western education system. what does that have to do with education in general. there can't be an Islamic education system that also encourages female education. this is a dumb argument by Daniel.

[@OwnGrid]

@@axch2983 what is dumb is throwing words thinking they make sense in reality you’re just complaining and have no solution to anything, and I mean how can you don’t even understand the problem

[@Nomad_786]

It's really hard to take someone who puts memes and crying emojis in a presentation seriously. I tried to be fair and take Safias points seriously but she was very unhinged and threw way too many strawmans. Her refusing to even define patriarchy is the straw that broke the camels back in terms of her credibility.

[@ibnahmad3149]

timestamp where she said that. i don't have patience for her right now.

[@ummrawamus]

@@ibnahmad3149 😀😀 same here. she was unbearable for me. crap coming from islamophobes and illiterate non muslims is sickening, but it coming from illiterate muslims is just another level!

[@ummrawamus]

@@aliah8330 and no.

[@oumaimab979]

@@aliah8330 well not during a debate.

[@__sarik]

@@aliah8330 he didnt do the same thing except at the last part where he showed some google pics to her after accusing Daniel for having ties with 1s1s and saying Daniel have a 0 knowledge about Islam. Daniel tried to debate about the topic of debate but that girl was only focused on the career of Daniel and brought 0 sentence about topic.

[@posintabook597]

Typical crypto feminist : I am not a feminist but here is me embracing every view that is derived from feminism

[@ahmadqazi2648]

They end up like feminists too. Unmarried, child-less and without a family.

[@twoplus7647]

Some of her views are worse than feminists. She is advocating for women to be in the kitchen, take care of the family, and also advance her career. She wants women to be like a robot.

[@lalita9041]

@@ahmadqazi2648 like all women with husbands and children are happy. The problem is not in being single. Its depression and emptiness in heart. Some people choose to fill a void with career and some choose with family and kids. Either of them can be unhappy. I would say I enjoy being single much more now and feel better connection to God as when I was married and had to take care of my ex husband and his bs, never had enough time and money to travel, read books, visit retreats and holy places.

[@ahmadqazi2648]

@@lalita9041 That might be applicable for those with abusive husbands. Not all men are abusive husbands. And suppose there is a petty lover's-quarrel between spouses (no violence ofcourse), than that is not abuse.

[@lalita9041]

@@ahmadqazi2648 oh you clearly dont know how many times husbands stop their women from seeking higher spiritual life just because they are jealous.

[@guardiana3177]

This is what happens when you think career is more important than being a caring mother.

[@turonwhitfield7917]

Bottom line

[@BoleDaPole]

It's definitely beneficial for the top 1%, more workers means less competition means lower wages means more profit 📈

[@rekojgames2480]

Family

[@AK-go7sh]

I'm a highly educated muslim woman and let me tell you this; WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED. I remember after high school been sick and tired of school, and just wanting to take a break. But my mom basically told me that I would be a failure if I didn't go for higher education. Unfortunately I listened, and the irony is that it has taken me longer time than usual and I have yet not even finished. Also the job the degree leads to is not even something that I want to do (even though it pays well). I have in recent years realized that it's just unrealistic for women to have children, be career women and to be good wives to their husbands. At one point or another one has to compromise, and it's usually the family that is being neglected. Another thing that I've noticed is that a lot of women (both muslim and non muslim) who have children and who are working, seem to always be stressed. These type of women would also constantly complain and tell others how lucky they are for not being married. Because think about it how fair is it really that women are the ones bearing and nursing children, and on top of that are expected to do the same work as men in the work place.They are suppose to just forget that they pushed out a whole baby a few + months ago and come back to work? Like how does that even make sense?? Not to mention being on your period as a woman every month and the pain and discomfort associated with that. Reality is women face many challenges that men doesn't in the work place. And for some weird reason we're not considering those things at all when women are being pushed to work. So what feminism has done is to make women miserable and stressed because they simply can't do it all. My point with all this is that people shouldn't listen to all the nonsense about female empowerment. A lot of these feminists will probably end up miserable and bitter. Because the thing is men and women are built different, and that's what Islam takes into consideration unlike feminism. Hopefully more women realize this before it's too late. May Allah make it easy for us! Edit: To some of the comments; I have never said that women can't have hobbies etc. In fact if you're a stay at home wife for example you probably going to have more flexible time compared to if you're working. Moreover at the end of the day people can choose to do whatever they want to. If you feel like higher education is for you, then be my guest. I just wanted give my experiences as someone who has spent most of my twenties studying and working, and tell you just how stressful and depressing it really is (especially as a woman).

[@lucyheartfilia2015]

Like seriously people are stupid. My thought is that only one parent should work and the other should stay at home and take care of the kids but women are like "Noo we're oppressed!" Like ma'am, if you think this, then don't marry and start a family.

[@H.a.q.q]

Ameen Sister Truth comes out no matter how hard they try. What you said is what brother Daniel ment throughout his video but somehow empowerment peeps just fail to comprehend. It is just so hypocritical of families to push for higher education for sisters when they also want them to leave the job in the end and be good wives. I would want sisters to pursue basic education enough to teach or homeschool her child and to spend her important time learning the deen and gaining Islamic knowledge which would help herself in the hereafter. May Allah سبحانه وتعالى protect us from hypocrites and May Allah سبحانه وتعالى give us all hidayat Ameen.

[@AK-go7sh]

@@H.a.q.q Exactly it's very hypocritical. I also believe most women only need basic education, maybe up to high school . The focus should definitely be on learning about the deen and becoming good homemakers...

[@firyalkhalifa8813]

جزاك الله خير. thank you sister you have summarized the whole point.

[@syedabeli]

Women are NOT being pushed to WORK! I've only had high school graduation. I haven't worked a day in my life. IM A STAY AT HOME WIFE. MARRY SOMEONE THAT CAN FINANCIALLY TAKE CARE OF YOU.

[@kaythreefox6005]

Through these debates Im learning more about islam..and a lot of the premisconceptions I had about it is starting to fade. Its incredibly interesting. Note: I fell out of faith 10 years ago(methodist christian) and only just started trying to find my way back to the light.

[@luluena2403]

May Allah guide you to the right path, Amin

[@myproductions6225]

i was born a Muslim(Muslim by name only, didn't know anything other than basics of Islam) and because i didn't know anything about my own religion i kinda became an athiest until i learned more about how life works, science big bang, universe fine tuning and everything pointing to God as being the only logical and rational answer and then i went to the Quran and was Mind blown over how insane it is, the knowledge and wisdom found in it in unlike anything i have ever encountered before not to mention All the scientific miracles and the facts found in it that no man could have know a hundred years ago let alone 1400 years ago, No human can write such a book and it doesn't have a single error, everything stated in the Quran that we can verify is true and it still blows my mind every time i read it, more over i found that everything that Islam prescribes just genuinely seemed like the best solution for problems in life. Basically Islam is the best way of living and it makes sense, everything in Islam makes sense, there is no Question that came to my mind, that Islam didn't give a rational and logical answer for.

[@sheikhmiah154]

Look into Islam, a total life changer my sister. Don’t let the media sway you away from it. Check out EFdawah, hamza’s den, one message foundation, dawah wise. All the questions you may have they’ll have answer waiting for you.

[@myproductions6225]

21 Unique fingerprints (75:4) We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. (Your fingerprints are different from those of everyone else on Earth. The whorls and ridges on your fingertips are determined partly by your genetic makeup. No one on Earth has the same fingerprints) 22 ocean meets river ( 25:53 ) And it is Allah Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water, Ocean and River), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and Allah set a barrier and a complete partition between them. ocean meets river (55:19) He released the two seas, meeting [side by side].Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.

[@kaythreefox6005]

@Go Transcrie thank you for this. It was indeed eye opening. My whole life I was taught Jesus is the son of god. I strayed away because some things didnt make sense, and because of searching for help in the church during crisis (I was suicidal) only to be shunned instead of helped. I dont blame god or jesus for that..I blame the pastor. I held a lot of anger in me towards the church and how corrupt it became...and even to this day refuse to go back. Islam has definitely caught my interest though. Theres a pureness to it, warmth and love that I feel from it that feels genuine. I used to feel that with the church when I was a kid, but as I grew I saw how corrupt the whole system is there, and how people twisted the word of god to fit their narrative. It felt broken. Im definitely going to look more into islam. How would one go about learning more?

[@KashifAli-iq9yq]

This girl was lost very badly, pls Daniel don't debate to these egoistic people, we want to learn something from debates, but she wasted our time, life will be better if she married on time, or atleast if not married then if she persued the right education then debate could be great ,May allah guide her and increase her IQ and her understanding to learn things with context

[@KashifAli-iq9yq]

@@saifullahkhan1202 right brother

[@paikuhansensei815]

Wich man in his sane mind would want to marry a feminist, that's suicidal.

[@botbeamer]

I don't want any man to have to deal with her lectures and screeching and emotional reactions

[@adrack]

Brother they are feminists. They are bound to have ego on top of their head

[@KashifAli-iq9yq]

@@adrack true

[@MadMax-it7sc]

when I want my daughter to get married and she says no i'll make her watch this video and tell her you will end up like her

[@asmatahir9950]

I now now 53 and wish that I never chased career. I wish I married when time was right. I am going to get my daughter married sooner rather then later and if she wants to study after marriage then she can

[@Notmyhandler]

😂

[@kimiko6732]

You can get her married at 9 to a 54 years old

[@jojos9788]

@@kimiko6732 I'd marry a 54 year old you don't have to think about our daughters.

[@ShahzadAhmad-nb6si]

​@@jojos9788 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@noomanbassadiq3165]

I had a wife. She prioritized her work which wasn't paying that much bydaway than her family. Our son who was 1 year old by then, would cry the whole day for "mama" and she didn't care. When I asked her to quit for a couple of years until he joins school, it was the reason for our separation. So this lady, doesn't sure know what she's talking about.

[@noomanbassadiq3165]

@Felis Pardus i wish that was true, our kadhi just gazzetted shocking 300 divorces within a year in our town. These ladies are being misled and they are the only ones targetted by our education systems, tv programs and all publick talks.

[@afzalhossain1429]

now its a rare case in all over the world. may allah guide our sisters

[@AK-ec4jw]

A child need his or her mother, children need both parent, a mother need to be with her children, number one priority is our children, may Allah grant us the hiqma, undarstanding, what is pur priority is. Money will come and go, but a child, child hood never ever will come back, a child will not have the bond and love for thire parents.

[@revivalist355]

@dbipagansebk you're still young bro

[@kayf_ahmad]

@@revivalist355 young? 100 years ago 17y/o were married

[@khaderlander2429]

As a father who advocates for daughters to study and have knowledge on both spiritual and material. I come to realise the inherent problem with high level of education for women specifically to gain material wealth. The chasing of status can truly be addictive causing most women to delay marriage, as they find it harder to find someone who can be above them in the status game, due to this, family values and having children take the back seat. Motherhood is nowadays look at with disdain.

[@Azhar_shaikh1]

Assalamualaikum. Just reading your comment makes me feel happy. May Allah bless you brother.

[@themercifulguard3971]

Not only that but the journey into attaining high status is punishingly difficult and chips away at their femininity and mental health.

[@posintabook597]

No matter what a man does for a living his status is still above a woman though , like women naturally chasing higher status men it’s too general , it’s a reality amongst bad women only

[@themercifulguard3971]

@@posintabook597 It’s not. Women always want men with a higher income/fame/status/strength etc

[@posintabook597]

@@themercifulguard3971 not really that goes for whores only. Honourable women don’t care for fame and status . They are attracted by manners , heart and personality . Prophet ﷺ wasn’t famous nor he came from a high social status .While higher income is relatively true but that’s because they think about the safety and well being of potential children

[@Leviathan1911]

Daniel completely obliterated her. Only if she had studied Islam than studying Daniel for a year, she would've learned more.

[@animekmr9787]

😂

[@farhaankhan3316]

😂😂😂

[@iklmn]

She didn't even study Daniel , I don't know what the heck she was doing anyway ,talked a lot about herself as well (which is meh.. ok whatever) but slandering someone you agreed to debate is just low

[@asad3iem2k191]

Nice to see a ottoman fan here in Daniel' channel

[@tysolbohan6446]

You've never even met the fucking man yet you trust his fucking word without any evidence in before shitty cherry-picking you make about how the Quran is 200 years beyond it's time even though pages of the fucking Quran are blatant plagiarism of other near eastern myths. I mean seriously the Persian after life's bridge to paradise a weird shitty gnostic gospel which stated Jesus swapped places with a man named Simon I've genuinely gobsmacked a person in the 21st century can believe in a god let alone the abramhic 1 there is more evidence of Odin existing than allha you know why? cause it's literally impossible to prove him. He's not comparable to anything and he's not like anything so if that's the case how the fuck are you supposed to prove him if it's empirical it's proof if it's not if it lacks some comparison point it's not real.

[@faizaabbasi302]

I've been told this by my parents when I finished my school so I told my father I don't wanna study furthermore instead I want to learn about Islam and the quran and the hadith and fikh. But unfortunately they told me to go for higher studies like university and do a job like my other family members (especially girls). I remember how I was in constant distress while going to university and convincing myself that thing over the top I had to do alot beyond my mental capacity bcz I was never really happy and comfortable with the idea of being a career woman. Now the society be little us coz we choose to stay at home and choose to learn about our deen. I'm speaking my heart today we women shouldn't feel bad and belittle if we value our kids, husband and and family over our career and so cold higher education.

[@themastercheif]

There are various studies that shows women are happier at home and taking care of kids but they realise it later in their life by that time it's late and they find harder to marry and there are issue for fertility as well. May Allah help all our sisters and i hope they do marry early and can carry on with their studies if possible.

[@faizaabbasi302]

@@themastercheif ameen. But somehow most men now doesn't prefer homely women as a life partner. I'm still single and maybe the root cause is I'm not making money. Moreover my friend told me she prefer to make her own money it's kinda disrespectful for her to ask her husband for daily expenses. I don't understand what's going on in the world.

[@themastercheif]

@@faizaabbasi302 I think this problem is global right now. It's going both ways for a men and women, both are finding very hard to find an spouse. In my personal opinion, most of the men want traditional women, me my friends, cousins, the whole group i know prefers traditional women, but sometimes it takes time tbh. Keep praying tahajjud, have a faith and don't lose hope. It took me around 3 years to find a partner, but i got consistent with my prayer and dua.

[@faizaabbasi302]

@@themastercheif jazakallah.

[@seiji99]

I love this allahumma barik 🤍🤍 that u chose this way. I am in Uni (20 y.o) right know and I study education. Elemenary school. I do like the work..to be a teacher of children. But it does take quite long. And no one in this kafir country would hire a jilbabi. I also in sha Allah would like to get married in the nearer future. Well it depends on my future husband whether I will continue education or not. If he allows me then okey if not then not🤷🏻‍♀️ I'd love to teach children islamic studies then🥰. But as for my family..they really insist on me being a career woman hahaha and not even think of marriage .wallahi this is so sad...I can't imagine myself working all the time..i had part time job very often😅and literally went to work while CRYING bc I hate work. I do like spending money tho😬 anyways

[@Ibra-heem]

This sister is the best example of what brother Daniel is trying to warn us from. May Allah guide us and guide her.

[@homtanks7259]

Exactly

[@man94xxBIG]

Ameen

[@ssotuc]

Bang on 🎯

[@sarisulo6963]

The poor family of this sister... May Allah guard us men and children from argumentative, manipulative and shaming women like this one. Ameen

[@ShafiqKhan-sm8lt]

This is the type of women who would be a dictator type in mgmt, but highly disrespectful. Shes a extreamist feminist. I cant see many men marrying someone like her.

[@turonwhitfield7917]

Ameen that's what feminist do ,insults,shame,sign language ,and the need to be rite ,,typical evry sister who where's jilbab,hijab,is not actually following the woman of first 3 generations of Muslims wa muslimat.

[@zarirtyseer6467]

SHE IS LIVING BREATHING PROOF OF WHAT BROTHER DANIEL IS WARNING US OF.......MAY ALLAH GUIDE HER....

[@irri7562]

I'm 23 and not married yet because I had to finance my home and now I've left my job and Alhamdulillah we have an alternate source of income. Had to quit because my mom is seriously unwell and requires close attention. In no way would I ever promote women to feel 'empowered' to work. The corporate stress is something even men find difficult to handle. I know how depressing it is and especially in my last days at work I felt this deep suffocation that only ended when I left. Alhamdulillah. I wanted to get married when I reach 18 but I'm unmarried for two reasons - couldn't find a practicing muslim man, 2ndly couldn't find anyone who will give me the liberty to look after my mom. Trust me, if I was married, my experiences at life would have been much easier to deal with. Men and women both need each other and have different gender roles. It doesn't take a GENIUS to understand that.

[@Faithful2allah121]

I’ll happily fully fund your lifestyle I.e sit home and look after your mum, at a high standard. Would you accept being a second wife?

[@usmanbinaffan8405]

​@@Faithful2allah121don't you think it is not appropriate way to ask someone..

[@sockpastarock7082]

You're basically just describing an economics problem. The issue is, as you are experiencing, that you don't really have a choice about whether or not you need to provide for yourself in lieu of having someone who wants to provide for you. As such it must be possible for women (like men) to provide for themselves economically at least until it is feasible that they no longer need to. If you have no means to generate any income then you are *forced* to sell yourself into a marriage with whoever is willing to save you from your economic crisis. That economic force of distress creates unfulfilling marriages which exist out of economic necessities rather than any genuine desire for each other. Daniel can say it's all woke feminist post modernist marxist propaganda and throw in all the other buzz words he likes. But the fact of the matter is we all live under capitalism and if you want food in your stomach and a roof over your head you need to have the option to earn a living for yourself. If you want to give up your career once you've found a person you love because they want to provide for you, that's fine. But if women don't have the ability to earn an income while they find their husband then they are just forced into the first available option which Islam then prohibits them from leaving. That's a marriage based on economic necessity rather than anything genuine. That's the issue.

[@ChiefShaddy]

​@@sockpastarock7082there is truth in this. These men want largely disempowered, economically suffocated women who will always be 'obedient' to them in return for 'financial security'. The remarkable thing is it appears, from the comments, that Muslim women WANT to be in that predicament.

[@englishblade]

may Allah make it easy for you sister and you find a righteous husband if you havent yet

[@turkihazem]

She attack him and his family and the other guy attack his sister When Denials opponents face reality they turn it into personal attacks because the evidence doesn’t go in their favor

[@the6ixman416]

Dear brother Daniel, I really love you for these debates you do which isn't easy with all the personal attacks on you. It's so hard for brothers these days to find non feminist sisters to marry. I pray you open more minds each day - amīn.

[@oumaimab979]

she was just running in circles. and her arrogance was the only thing holding from accepting.

[@bonjey1]

Of course it would, otherwise she'd have to live with the guilt of realising she had wasted her time.

[@standrea8537]

Both my parents gave us right to go to college and university and become educated and get a degree. I'm glad they did. I worked as a psychiatrist for children and adolescents and than female ward. I saw many Muslim patients and I felt like I was making a difference, not just working to earn money. I wasn't married. It was fulfilling for me. However after I married, especially once I had my first child, they became my priority. Motherhood was first. Mh husband has the financial responsibility and I am homemaker. Do I miss work? Sometimes yes as I want to help people, I enjoyed my job. There many people saying women never enjoy work but I did. But I know my priorities. Kids and husband come first. Once kids are grown in sha Allah I would like to go back to my field of speciality,if my husband allows. I remember once meeting a Muslim patient ans she telling me how glad she was to meet another muslim doctor as she felt more comfortable talking to me. Nothing wrong with getting education and using it with good intentions. Just don't let it interfere with primary responsibilities.

[@sumayahasif6941]

Well said❤

[@onearchitect6220]

Good for you

[@Rapidre4dreviews]

The problem is that they sacrifice even their beliefs for the sake of so called higher education. They ignore their lord’s order, their life’s priority and easily get distracted from their main responsibilities just to be called an independent and educated woman.

[@Mokingjay369]

But daniel is trying to lock woman inside houses and cover them with black veil in order to satisfy his ego not because of religion . Women back in the prophet's Era were working !! So why not now !!

[@YouTube_Removes_My_Comments]

​@@Mokingjay369😮 really?

[@EzziiG]

She came in with a script and followed the script without addressing Daniels points directly. She must of spent a year practicing in front of a mirror 🤣 for this debate. She couldn't follow basic logic and stats. Her behaviour throughout the debate was immature and disrespectful. Making faces and waving her arms. It was honestly sad on her part. I'm glad Daniel stayed composed and didn't let her personal attacks effect him. Her presentation was childlike. Who puts memes in a presentation? This was a joke to her. Overall it was a good debate and I enjoyed it a lot. I would love to see more of this. 🙏🏼👍🤲

[@raheelaali9767]

I totally agree with you brother Daniel. I recently stopped working, I used to work for the council in a open office. Mixing and working with men, since I’ve left the team has a new manager, who is a practicing Muslim and openly gay. I’m still in contact with a few colleagues , they have to support people who want to change their sex etc.., the best thing I did was leave. The woman at work were having plastic surgery, their were affairs going on. I have a MA but it means absolutely nothing when I enter my grave

[@Saif_VAGABOND_Talpur]

"I still have pregnancy dreams, waiting with vast joy for something that will never happen." - Germain Greer, one of the founding mothers of radical feminism. It was on point when Daniel pulled out those pictures of cats. In the end those unmarried women pet cats and dogs. It's just a coping mechanism.

[@MilahanPhilosophersCorner]

Interesting book. I should read that.

[@midostreap]

ما شا الله

[@midostreap]

What minute in the debate was that ?

[@Saif_VAGABOND_Talpur]

@@midostreap She interrupted Daniel at 2:05:00 mark and Daniel kept telling her to not to interrupt and he then pulled out the cat pictures after 2:06:10 mark.

[@prenom8793]

@@midostreap 2.06.15

[@Alburaq78]

Brother Daniel is right. It may not sound good for brainwashed modern people but it's a fact that empowerment off women is destroying families and communities. Hamdulillah for Islam and thanks to brother Daniel, for his courage and honesty in bringing true Islam cases.... proud of you my brother.....

[@ayeshaasjad2124]

Assalamualaikum! This is true, women need to prioritize being the home maler and not ge bread winner, also,, Do write ALHAMDULLIAH properly!

[@MuhammadIqbal-cq4fw]

After listening to sister Safiyyah, its now our duty as Muslim Brothers, fathers ands Sons to firstly educate ourself in matters of Deen and educate the woman of our societies as ignorance is at its peak. This made my sad to listen to sister trying so hard to justify the western doctrine. Allah guide her and me to Truth

[@redman6790]

Ameen

[@jamalnasir3099]

Her behaviour during an online debate is disturbingly childish.

[@jamalnasir3099]

@Cutless Fury I commented before watching all of the debate. She is actually much worse than I characterised her here. Stupid and dangerous.

[@AL-of1uk]

When some attacks his opponent - not their ideas on a debate - know that they have lost the argument. The sister lives in mars😂. As a man, my job is to protect and provide for my family and I thank Allah for blessing me with a true Muslim wife who puts family first. My advice to all single men out there, if you want a successful marriage and a strong Muslim family then look for a women that knows her deen and knows the importance of family. Thank you brother Daniel for reminding us the Sunnah.

[@DoYouReason]

Wow, as a child I grew up having this innate opinion that school and college are supposed to be for Men that are obligated to have a job to earn money and support their families.. And I was viciously opposed by the society to have that innate opinion, Its great to watch this eye-opening debate, now that I witness how it is so true women in our societies are growing old without marriage, and the married ones face divorce very early, mostly because of their desire to pursue careers that they have worked so hard to get an education for because of social pressure. That part at the end regarding cats is so sad and so true, seeing 2 of my closest relatives, one ending up divorced twice and one without a marriage, both leaving Islam and seeking deism and atheism, both ending up raising cats instead of children, I pray to Allah to guide them, and grant them good husbands.

[@botbeamer]

Astaghfirullah it's sad, may Allah keep us strong, this is just a test Allah wants to see the true ones and the liars as he says in Surat Ankabut

[@theultimateeye1700]

Too late for that. Let them enjoy their cats.

[@islamicreminders3090]

I was going to suggest she debated with hijab but I think she would need 5 years to study him before the debate could go ahead 😂😂😂😂

[@halalmuslimah9076]

Daniel is not exactly saying muslim women shouldn't be educated, he is saying if you are going to do education, don't make it a priority in your life. Make marriage and being the homemaker a priority as a woman. If you're gonna do education, do it with the correct intentions in the most halal way possible. Make sure you are trying your best to do maybe an online course/degree from home (not going to the university where it's mixed genders) while the food is cooking in the oven and the children are napping and once the house is clean for your husband to come home from a busy, stressful job to a peaceful home instead of a messy house. Your intentions shouldn't be that you are doing it to get some sort of security or independence or female empowerment. It's the husband/male relatives/the imam of the community it's the men who are supposed to provide security, money etc for women and children and we have to embrace and love and submit to the fact that Allah has made it so that we are supposed to be dependent upon men. Gender roles are real and we need to be following them based on Quran and Sunnah.

[@sucaadshardi9650]

This is the fucking problem with Islam I can't believe how endoctrinated people are it makes me so angry to keep women in the house barefoot and pregnant

[@amraarshad6418]

Except this is a fantasy. In the event a woman's husband dies/or divorces, the male relatives/community very rarely if not ever, support the woman. She becomes a dependent on the state. What does she do then? She could marry again, but again, I'm sure you know men very rarely will marry a widow/divorcee in these times. And the scenario you've given of a woman studying from home ,looking after children, the home AND cooking all herself is absolutely preposterous. She's a human being,not a robot. Think objectively, not of your own desires. Furthermore it is up to a husband and wife how they choose to run their household, no one else has the right to judge or speculate how they do so. Woman are not meant to be cooped up inside a home, this is how you end up with repressed men leading to all sorts of fitna. Lastly, it's very rare now that a man can run a household, and provide financial for his wife AND children, hence why unfortunately a second salary is needed. Not sure where you're based but in the west , especially the UK cost of living has had a disastrous effect on everyone. Allah hu alam

[@konyvnyelv.]

If a woman is abused she can't leave the house if she doesn't have a job.

[@mina0rahman]

"men who are SUPPOSED to provide security, money etc for women and children". Thank goodness the women in my family all have jobs, otherwise they would never have been able to escape the domestic abuse by their men because they weren't doing what they were SUPPOSED to do, and cheating on their wives! Everyone should be able to earn some bread, you never know when times get tough. This privileged commentary on women not having to work only serves the elite class that doesn't have to worry if 1 person's income can pay for their child's diapers, food, and school fees. They should talk once they're homeless and hungry. I really don't want a person sitting in the safety of four walls and a ceiling in a crisp shirt to tell me what's good for me. And talking about marriage, it's from Allah, he destines people to get married at a certain time with a certain person. What should women do by then? Lean on their very old parents' meagre pensions when they should be helping them pay the bills? This is absurd.

[@mina0rahman]

@@konyvnyelv. exactly.

[@reik6229]

I have to admit I didn’t full agree with Daniel’s take on this matter the first time I watched this debate. But with a few days of thinking deeper about this question, I realised how pertinent Daniel’s take was in our western context. May Allah give us His guidance and reward you Daniel for your work.

[@hydidon3019]

Facial expressions and body language shows her level of debate.

[@musaikram]

I feel so bad for the woman. Blatantly calling someone a liar or a terrorist without proof is slander which is a great sin in Islam. How pathetic do you have to be to attack someone's family and make false public accusations that endanger their life? Tbh she was worse than snaily or apuss or tawhidi (which I thought was impossible). Daniel showed great patience when he let her ramble on for like 20 mins.

[@jzlnz]

It's easy to put down someone but please be sincere and rational, she should substantiated her claims. It's a cheap shots

[@mostafizurrahmanjhalak42]

typical liberalized feminine crazy hypocrite type behaviour from these crazy ladies

[@MODEST500]

and calling a sister a feminist is just as bad. i feel so bad for you. you should know that door swings both ways . if brother Daniel can accuse people then he should be ready for the same too.

[@jzlnz]

@@MODEST500 2 wrong doesn't make a RIGHT. Islam teach us be sincere and rational not picking side.

[@xS146roar]

@@MODEST500 Calling feminist a feminist. But calling Muslims terrorists is what western disbelievers do . West is the terrorist who bombed middle east and many Muslim countries but this munafiq feminists never condemned that

[@MyChannel-r4e]

1:53:00 - Sabreen made the WORSE case by quoting the ayah that talks about Men and Women being supporters to eachother. But wait, that's in terms of religion and good conducts. It doesn't talk about Women and their Husbands should be equalized in the leadership of the house. Cherry-picking led to mass delusion.

[@twoplus7647]

She cherry picks a handful of women and misrepresents them. She's a depressed feminist who couldn't answer when Daniel asked, "who is the head of the household in Islam?"

[@muslimfounders2471]

Lol not even that but she mispronounced the verse as Al-Mu’minaati instead of Al-Mu’minaatu several times.. couldn’t sit through that. [Surah Tawbah: 71]

[@whoeverwhateverany1]

@@twoplus7647 Where is your evidence from the Qur'an and Sunnah that the man is the head of the household?

[@whoeverwhateverany1]

@@ummerfarooq5383 Why are men and women not equal? They ARE equal in value, regardless of their different duties. We should always make the distinction. Otherwise, bring me evidence from the Qur'an and Sunnah that women and men are not of the same value, that one is better than the other just for being a male or a female.

[@woopazipper]

@@whoeverwhateverany1 Qur'an 4:34. You've been fed by liberal Muslims if you don't know that Allah ordered men to be the imam of women.

[@mohammedhaq4017]

Daniel does not sugar coat or says anything shady. I love this brother! May Allah bless you. Cat. 😄

[@LevPolyasky.]

Cats!😂😂😂

[@txfu-]

“Fitna is everywhere” doesn’t mean you purposely expose yourself to more of it

[@EB-gt1pq]

I am a Muslim woman and have a college education. Careers were never super important to me luckily… Just having a job was fine for me. Now that I have two young children I work from home and have taken a pay cut. I don’t mind it at all… It makes everybody’s life easier. Especially mine!

[@muhayya7117]

can i ask what your degree is that allows you to work from home?

[@boygenius538_8]

@@muhayya7117 probably computer science.imo the best degree for women

[@noahhoan7794]

If you think that Daniels message is to study something that allows for women to work from home, you didn't get his message.

[@justtostudylol5711]

​@@noahhoan7794 exactly

[@ruru9886]

@@noahhoan7794 I do not think he is trying to invalidate Brother Daniels message, some people simply like to work as a way to prevent boredom and as long as it doesn't interfere with the woman's responsibilities at home, which shouldn't when you are working from home, I do not see anything wrong with it. Especially as most are flexible and only be around 20 hours a week.

[@aabdulll]

In many ways I feel sorry for the sister. May Allah guide her to the straight path, make her from the righteous and grant her a righteous husband. Ameen.

[@biggsubz3122]

This was really a debate between Rationalism (Daniel) Vs Emotionalism (Saffiya) The marriage vetting question at the end was JOKES I couldn't stop laughing :) Also, she should repent for the slanders she made and the inventions she produced. She's honestly a joke and trying ridiculously hard to disguise herself as something else other than a feminist. It's sad that we have such l in leeches' community, unfortunately, and ergo another reason some brothers are finding it hard to find practicing Muslim women to get married to. Furthermore, they have a whole group where they learn this agenda from shocking honestly When you cannot debate rationally like Daniel did you have to resort to phycophanny tactics like this clown Sayyifah had too i.e. interruptions after interruptions? On a serious note, if she claims she cares about our brother Daniel why would she mention things to put her life in danger which as a result would have consequences on his wife and kids? clearly, she cares about her agenda more. Daniel Thanks for this well needed.

[@amirulafiq4371]

@@ummerfarooq5383 How?

[@mr.nobody9955]

@@ummerfarooq5383 keep dreaming buddy.

[@mrumbobo5683]

😂😂😂😂

[@biggsubz3122]

@Ummer Farooq You're doing exactly what Safiyyah was doing during the whole debate "Making Claims without substanting objectively" again Rationalism vs Emotionalism

[@kdvytc]

@@ummerfarooq5383 im trying to understand that lady argument but she's everywhere. Even attacking Daniel personal life.

[@ahussain8581]

In this debate there is a lesson for us all. Not only has KZbin recorded all the insults and slanders made in this debate with 356000 witnesses but so have the Horourable Angels. The record is permanent. On the Day of Judgment we all have defend what we have said about others?

[@Abuhan47]

I'm only 5 minutes in but how ironic is it that the topic is women's rights and then she immediately has technical problems and Daniel has to fix it for her. Sorry but that is hilarious 😂

[@imranyounus7559]

@@greenlobster9171halal spider man 😂

[@rmlimntd2559]

Wait till you reach an hour to the debate. 🤣

[@omarmirza9957]

Of course: no male ever has problems with his audio!

[@7aemr]

its sickening how they try and warp the Qur'an and Sunnah to suit their needs. It's not only disgusting but openly stating that Allah Almighty and His Messenger got it wrong and that human conjecture like feminism is correct.

[@ahmadmitbi9543]

Dear Muslims, beware of these "hijabi feminists" and don't get tricked by their looks.

[@karfa92]

She said she's not a feminist, feminism is a western concept because western women used to have no value in society. listen carefully

[@theintuitivetruth]

@@karfa92 This is same like grave worshippers saying they are not committing shirk. Shirk is Pagan concept, where pagan used to have no other way to worship. Think reasonably.

[@karfa92]

@@theintuitivetruth Not at all. Besides, we know the five pillars are called pillars for a reason, and the word "شرك" shirk is not something that we can determine. In fact we are not even allowed to call someone who claims to be muslim "مشرك" . Placing ourselves in the level of الله isn’t advised in any islamic school of thought. I’ve seen people among the comments and live chat calling the lady all disrespectful names, and since it’s the gentleman’s community, I thought that in any given moment he could actually tell the crowd to be more respectful of their Deen and stop shouting like a bunch of british drunk football supporters. لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله 😩

[@muhammadmafaz8530]

@@karfa92 she doesn't accept gender roles which Islam taught to women

[@ahmadmitbi9543]

@@karfa92 What on earth are you talking about ?! Yes we can say someone is a مشرك based on the fact that Allah ﷻ has already determined what شرك is. So if she doesn't want to be identified as a Feminist that's her own problem because she is in fact a feminist. Furthermore, why didn't you mention the fact that she was slandering Daniel by saying he is affiliated with a terrorist organization ? Isn't that bad ? She is indeed a shameless feminist wearing a piece of garment on her head with make up on lol.

[@Abdullah-de3tq]

I respect you for keeping composed facing such an intelectually challenged woman, the constant baseless personal attacks were disgusting I genuinely feel sorry for her and who ever she's about to marry

[@tetleyteacup1]

It’s such a shame the lady is not understanding the points Daniel is making. She is failing to see her inadequate responses. Unfortunately she doesn’t have enough intelligence to carry the debate in an objective manner.

[@khanofcaledonia6413]

Because of the differencec in culture and language. She is an immigrant.

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

@@khanofcaledonia6413 when I heard her accent at first, I just knew she wouldn’t be able to understand. I’m not taking sides here and I’ve listened to about 40 min and I will maybe finish this later.. maybe

[@100Gambit]

@@khanofcaledonia6413 she didnt look terrible because of language or culture. You're insulting other cultures and language speakers by saying this and giving her an excuse. It's clear. Her and her buddies prepared for a debate and it wasnt this one. She was hard to watch and a waste of time . She just came to read.

[@SS-ry5yv]

As a woman i appreciate daniel speaking on this matter, no one (from whom i watch) else is. Ive always wondered what to do career wise, as ive been taught i had to have a career or else id be looked down on and may suffer under a husband. It never sat right with me and i always felt depressed thinking about having a career than feeling empowered. Yes outwardly it seems empowering but the reality is when you work outside everyday, it becomes so mentally draining. Ive worked for some time and altho the jobs were respectable and “fun” i couldnt get myself to like working. I tried hard to trick myself to like working but eventually i started being real with myself. I hated having to work with nonmahram men, i hated leaving my family, i hated using up so much of my time just to work, i hated being a corporate slave, i hated that my societal status depended on my career, it was mentally draining to force myself to be assertive (because thats the only way to survive and grow in a workplace. There are even studies on how men get more work opportunities because theyre naturally more assertive than women). Women are able to trick/force themselves to have careers despite this but not without a toll on themselves, their family, and society. Now what i want is to be a house wife who also volunteers her time for the muslim community (teaching the deen, etc). This is what i deem as empowerment, to be there for my family and ummah rather than have a career just so that i can go shopping and vacation all the time. Women (and men) should seek islamic knowledge. And theres nothing wrong with women seeking worldly knowledge, but no doubt society has taken things too far where women put their family/islamic responsibilities over worldly matters. That being said, men are failing women too. So although i want to be a housewife it scares me how men have given up their responsibilities as leaders of the home. Men have become weak and unable to lead and care for their wives properly. Recently i read daniels article about this topic and it made me feel better but the worry still remains. At the end of the day if a marriage goes wrong women suffer most. So we really need to educate the ummah on this topic just as much as the dangers of feminism.

[@SamSam-mv6gf]

On a true Islamic land, your family will only approve a man who is pious. If your marriage failed the state will take care of you and you can still get married again

[@thealpha1687]

Sister, make sure you marry a righteous man that you are compatible with and inshaallah you will have nothing to worry. This may be easy or somewhat difficult depending on where you are from. I would advise that you read Umm Khalid's(brother Daniel's wife) articles on this topic where she addresses this point. May Allah grant you a righteous husband and grant you pious offspring that will be the coolness of your eyes!

[@blueberrycoy]

May Allah make it easy for us sister.

[@Eat-Z-Bugs]

Gabrial Romani also talks about these subjects.

[@altheaequatorin1179]

the voice of the unheard. subhanallah you’ve summer up my thoughts quite well jazakallah

[@irp-politics]

My wife is a Spanish/Mexican national. She studied her higher studies in Canada. All her life she was pushed to do more by her secular family. She finally found Islam and so happily converted. She and I work from home. She is helping me create Islamic content in Spanish Language. She is so happy that she is not part of the rat race for this dunya anymore. Being a Pakistani living in the west, I can quote hundreds of such women who are refusing to the western model of "education". This women in the debate has absolutely no idea what she is talking about.

[@Mym794]

May Allah bless you and your family and reward you both with jannah for spreading Islam.

[@mohammadrezamahmoudi4845]

Mashaallah

[@Raed.A.U]

Mashaalla

[@sam34315]

Brother,does ur wife have a younger sister?

[@wasimislam8435]

That was like having teeth pulled. I made it half way. She presented nothing but personal attacks, essentially drowning out her own points, which were mild at best. This opened my eyes. Empowerment is questionable.

[@elvistiso6275]

I'm not a Muslim, but Islam is right about women.

[@dreamer6432]

Have you considered becoming a Muslim? Which other religion teaches a perfect way of life, social conduct, values and family structure?

[@elvistiso6275]

@@dreamer6432 I like Italian Sausage and dogs too much to become a Muslim. Something else, Islam is largely a religion composed of POCs. Being a White Muslim means turning ones back on their identity. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a circle.

[@lacag-lacag]

@@elvistiso6275 man becoming slam doesn't mean u leaving ur own identity is just believing there one god or ALLAH nd his final messenger prophet muhamed nd follow his way of life that is simple

[@elvistiso6275]

@AC I've known both practicing and non-practicing Muslims. One thing that was told to me, is that despite claims of equality that Arabs are on top of the pecking order. In large part, due to Arabic being the language of Islam. Khalid Muhammad for example, constantly complained about Arabs looking down on both American Blacks and Africans. I find myself in agreement with Muslims in the west, as they are willing to push back on "Skittles". Especially with "Skittles" being pushed in the schools.

[@elvistiso6275]

@Rewan Ehab Women need controls over their behavior, something Islam understands. Look at the condition of women in the west.

[@benfoster5387]

"I'm not a feminist." * Spends two hours defending feminism * You can't make this up.

[@jamilaabdullah153]

I was confused lol 🤣 bc sounds pretty feminist to me

[@chadi4578]

Whats the point of debating if she is not feminist? They use this usless opener "i am not feminist but..." to try making you change your mind about them. But they dont realize that we can detect feminists in 2 mins

[@Blackfracolin1]

She belongs to the streets

[@qariadnanuddin898]

She was the definition and product of western feminism. Education for women is important in Islam but not based on the ideologies, curriculums and goals of western education structures. But In all honesty, we Muslims at large have failed to come up with a different, compatible, and secure education system for our sisters. We can’t really blame all Muslim sisters when we haven’t really put forward any good alternatives.

[@orionemperor5319]

It takes two to tango. If muslim women has no sense then what is the difference between her and a prostitute.

[@wahidjang9672]

@@orionemperor5319 ayo 🤨

[@shaikhfaizan3405]

True

[@maryamkhan5522]

This is exactly why I will have a separate women's only school and college for women who want to study without the danger of Fitnah. In Sha Allah. Studying in co-ed is really unsettling and people who can't accept that are just not being honest. We need better educational systems. That's the truth.

[@shaikhfaizan3405]

@@maryamkhan5522 May Allah be with you and help you to achieve your goal sister😊

[@aminahussain1770]

Sadly many parents choose education over marriage for their daughters. I wanted to get married but my parents refused as they wanted me to pursue a career. Sadly getting married late had detrimental impact on my life

[@oma23j]

what detrimental impact did it have?

[@aminahussain1770]

@@oma23j I’m not going to go into details about my marriage or my life. Thank you.

[@babyboss8231]

Unfortunately this also happened in my family

[@Believe_in_one_Creator]

Start to pray Tahajjud for ur wish InshaAllah Allah will make things better for u ...

[@ADIYOU-l7o]

@@aminahussain1770 You want sex. That detrimental effect 😂😂

[@maxamed9720]

To the Sister, If you disagree with someone, you shouldn't want to attack their humanity, call them a Terrorist and attach them nonsense labels. ☹️ Muslim Feminists are the worst.

[@ZubairAhmed-od2xv]

Muslim feminist is an oxymoron

[@botbeamer]

@@ZubairAhmed-od2xv Just like Muslim Liberal 😂

[@tysolbohan6446]

He's not a terrorist but his views don't oppose terrorism either these are his view. countries

[@samschwartz8858]

I'm a female and I found sister Safiyyah's arguments to be weak. And all the people Daniel debates, cherry pick their points. Daniel has the truth on his side and you can't really debate that! Ma Sha Allah brother Daniel. I pray that you never lose sight of what you're doing like those compassionate Imams! Ameen

[@Caldwell1234]

As salaamu alaikum My sister you mentioned that you can’t debate the truth however the people of misguidance will debate the truth. This is why you don’t give them a public platform to assist them in spreading their falsehood.

[@samschwartz8858]

@@Caldwell1234 Wa Alaikum As Salaam my brother. I do understand what you are saying and I don't disagree with you, but only Daniel knows what he is doing. Someone with Daniel's intelligence and the way he articulates the message is sometimes what we need. Not everyone in the public platform should be doing that.

[@shaz2761]

You shouldn't be writing on here. As a woman, you shouldn't have been educated in learning English, or any other languages.

[@walnutsoup4316]

She's really deluded twisting the Quran to suit her ideology but no matter how hard she tries the truth remains the truth in Islam men are the leaders thank you Daniel for once again defending what is right and yes she still lost

[@DearestModesty]

MashAllah great job explaining this brother Daniel. I couldn’t agree more and I wish there was more content for traditional Muslim women out there. I am revert of 10 years married to a man from the Middle East. We both have 4 sisters. All of my sisters are in their late 20s-30s, have masters degrees and “good jobs” but they are all single (with a history of terrible partners and emotional damage from past relationships), on multiple psychiatric medications for depression and anxiety and are all unhealthy from a western diet. They don’t have religion and struggle every day with loneliness and will likely grow old alone with no children or stable life with a husband. After my parents are gone they will be lost and they likely won’t have a family of their own due to their reduced fertility and distaste for marriage. Out of five daughters I’m the only one married and currently expecting a child iA. I pray my family accepts Islam. On the other hand, two of my husband’s four sisters are happily married and have young babies of their own. They are much happier and emotionally mature and live a simple Islamic life. They finished high school and study Islamic sciences through womens groups at their local masjid. They raise their kids together and with the help of aunties and other women in the family. They are NEVER alone and always have family around. They don’t eat processed foods and are not overweight or suffering any major mental health issues. Yes they have less money and material wealth, less “freedom” and less education but they have way more fulfillment and contentment raising a family that no career or degree could fill. His other two sisters are studying at womens university (their majors are home and religious sciences) and hoping to get married soon. Personally I would prefer my daughters to have the latter life. I used to believe the feminist lie but since leaving school and work I’ve never been happier being a housewife. We need a movement of Muslim women (similar to the Christian “tradwife”/traditional femininity movements) that helps younger women connect to the their womanhood and to better understand their deen, their fertility, and the at-home feminine arts.

[@Hassan-zd9it]

Alhamdulillah for the blessings of Islam!

[@OwnGrid]

The trad movement is looked down upon, and it’s very small, so basically there is no turning back the wheel the empowerment narrative has already won. Besides the religion is clear on these things if anyone wants to know that is

[@idkidc7560]

Who realised you said EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

[@mkay187]

@@idkidc7560 lol read it in his voice too

[@Creativeetea]

That's a good time to make dawah, may Allah guide them

[@mdtalhaansari1096]

The only way to get through this debate is to continuously recite "La Hawla wa la Quwwata Illa Billah". The lady is completely outrageous.

[@kayc.8283]

Im a muslim woman with absolutely no debate skills but as a former feminist, I think I would have been able to come up with better rebuttals. Unfortunately, most of her side of the "debate" was a cleaner version of "its not fair! how can you say that? Im so offended!". After being born and raised in the west, I had to ask myself one day why I had so many issues with Islam when I was in my 20s. It was because I was raised to not only think I was equal but also fulfill the same responsibilities as men in the outside world and all the responsibilities of traditional women at home. I felt that bc my muslim family left me with all the work that Islam was unfair, even though Allah never put that responsibility on us in the first place. It was only after I read the verse "the male is not like the female" in the Quran that I understood Allah never made us to be equal, we have different biologies therefore different responsibilities. Everything I learned for 25 years was a complete lie. Now that my heart has FULLY submitted to Allah's commandments, I no longer feel "less than" for our role as wives and mothers. We dont have equality or equal responsibility but we do have equal reward for the same deeds of fasting, salah, sadaqah, being kind to parents etc ... Our other works will be rewarded according to Allah's wisdom. Im so glad I left that feminist mentality that rotted my heart. Ladies, we need to accept that their is no cherry picking in submission, your heart either submits to Allahs commandments or it dosent. There is no partial submission. Our hearts will be questioned, our intentions will be examined. we can't escape our deeds on the day of judgement. Imagine showing up for reckoning thinking you have all these works that didn't count for anything bc you kept competing with men and left your role behind? How sad would it be that the same thing you were expecting reward for was something that Allah only wrote for men while your wife/mother rewards were left in the dust bc you filled your worldly life fighting submission? Dont sell yourself out. Ask Allah for understanding and study Islam. May Allah guide us all Ameen.

[@secretcrocodile4131]

are you a revert by chance?

[@kayc.8283]

@@secretcrocodile4131 No I was born into a muslim family

[@kdvytc]

Masha allah you have the best comment tbh. We can never be equal, men cannot get pregnant and women cannot also produce sperm. We made different.

[@swampfox3536]

Sister, hear something from a male's perspective, you're going to be an excellent wife and a perfect mother, in sha Allah. Your role in the family is no less than what "your man" has to offer. Both men and women are superior to their counterparts. Depends on how we perceive things. Your "job" as a wife and a mother is going to be the BEST job in the world. Even your father and your future husband are going to be admitting it without skipping a beat. I have a slightly offtopic question here, Please ignore it if you don't feel like addressing it. I always bring this topic up to understand what different sisters think about the following opinion, _For most men, the positive masculinity (having superior protective power and taking care of a woman mentality) goes away when THEY empower themselves above the normal threshold (what feminists do). That sensitive, ladylike behavior is gone (some of the cases). Men feel weak in front of a woman to show their masculine side (I'm talking about the good men; not the vile, toxic ones). The status makes THEM more superior than their man._

[@NadiaYC1998]

Ameen sister. I’m a revert but I went through this exact same realization during my journey. I’m sorry to see my family fall victim to the same narrative. May Allah guide as all towards Islam. 🤲🏼

[@annispatel43]

this woman will either never get married or she'll get married to a poor innocent guy and get divorced very quickly.

[@wongooichin3221]

Assalammualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu. Jazakallahu khair brother Daniel for his good effort in explaining Allahhumma barik. I am a Chinese revert converted into islam together with my Chinese husband in year 2020 الحمد الله after researching about islam together for few years after married. Allah guides whom He wills سبحان الله we always get to see the best of islam and came to an agreement that Islam is undeniably the best guidance for us all mankind and we would like to embrace islam completely إن شاء الله "O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. (Quran 2;208)" We both came from secular education background, given we met in university seeking secular education and “fall” in love, then we got married 3 years before we converted into islam. We are the only child at home so we grow up in get-all-we-want environment. Despite the “good” life we have, we were never content, and the narcissist in us, thinking we are always “superior” because of the “education level” we had. Until we found islam, to realise if the blessings we had is only make us arrogant (like the syaitan) then it is not blessings but only calamities. Last few weeks, my family visited us, and finally meeting after 2 years of lockdown, we announced to them our conversion. I am not surprised, my mom responded: "what is the point of you studying so high all these years to just became muslim?!" After knwing I wear complete hijab, she even said the "modern" Muslim no longer cover their head...just so, she asked me to do the same..I insisted on my hijab, and she stopped contacting me. A relationship that is not based for the sake of Allah, super fragile. And after knowing that I decided to be a stay-home wife, preparing to give birth to a muslim children and homeschool them إن شاء الله she showed me a face of disgust.. My mom is a “modern” mom, feminist, and have been working all her life. I don’t remember having memory of her spending time with me growing up, but only my teachers and friends, who now no longer with me because of each responsibilities in life. I answered her: While my husband is out there putting a fight with the world to bring food on the table for our family, I will not leave my lonely children to school by going to work, letting the teachers in the school to hug and guide them, while them having a mom- a muslim mother. My mom was laughing at my thoughts and looking at my dad as if it was a shame to be a mom. My mom mentioned she can get all she wants because she is independent, without the need to depend on my father. One more point, I grow up thinking my father is useless because mom is independent and she is strong to get what she wants..And this is the last thing I want my children to think of their father. Naudhubillah Islam changed my husband and my life..الحمد الله. He no longer jealous of me having lunch with my male colleagues in the mixed environment, or me out-performed him because my male employer prefered my work than the other male colleagues or me being the party butterfly and not home all day…I am at home now, seeking ilm to equip myself to be the first school for my children إن شاء الله, while my hero, my husband working to provide the best home for our small family.. إن شاء الله I don’t know what is the good being “empowered” woman, but if being one means to be an arrogant one, or to stay away from home while Allah commanded us to be good mom and wife mixing around with many sexes (males, female, transgender) in the world of fitnah, slandering, showing off…then what is the point getting so called “education”, higher position, higher income, and to gain the wrath of Allah? Even though you see me inferior to you in wealth and offspring, perhaps my Lord will grant me ˹something˺ better than your garden, and send down upon your garden a thunderbolt from the sky, turning it into a barren waste. (Quran 18;39-40)

[@zaharahhussein2156]

Almighty Allah loves you and guides you to the right and beautiful path of Islam...May He also shower you and family with His abundant and miraculous blessings in this world and the hereafter..Aameen Ya Rabb Alamin

[@wongooichin3221]

@Ceiling Fan yes I am

[@wongooichin3221]

@@zaharahhussein2156 jazakillahu khairan

[@wongooichin3221]

@Wiznsjs Didnejs I am Malaysian Chinese

[@irshadtarsoo7734]

@Go Transcrie she quit her work to focus on her family.

[@ghuraba9508]

It wasn't a 'debate' but a lecture. The fact that I've seen a comment from her follower on the live chat saying to unfollow her just proves that bro Daniel's point was right. May Allah ﷻ protect us from the dangers of these ideologies Ameen.

[@youssb316]

She lost this debate in the first 5 min, when she can't even fix her microphone. And when Daniel told her, it's because of your background (noise) she literally turned around to check her background. She's finished.

[@shaziaalam101]

Lol 😆

[@equityjustice2695]

😰🤣🤣🤣🤣😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@sadiqaliyu9308]

😂

[@Muhammed_Talha71023]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sameedalgora8490]

She did lose because of her acting up. She had a few good points, not gonna lie... but her way of lashing out is a rush of anger. My question is, what does a woman do when she is actually abused by her husband, and she is following the sunnah. Like how does one go about this.

[@Abd.Allah_D.Bockler]

This is such an important debate. Daniel is amazing. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@northernrebel1402]

She just resorted to slandering and ad hominem attacks because her arguments just like the feminist ideology that she follows couldn’t hold water. Making memes and presenting it during a debate is childish.

[@TheOneStraightPath]

Well, then we watched a different debate because this is not what I saw, it's quite the opposite, are you prepared to show me where? I can certainly point you to exactly where he attacked her, where he used dirty tactics, where he started the character assassination, and much more. Do you think you can do the same? As soon as he knew he was losing the debate he started what he does best, razzle-dazzle and distraction tactic. You for first.

[@northernrebel1402]

@@TheOneStraightPath Since you weren’t paying attention to the debate, I won’t waste my time arguing with you. You can watch this debate over and over again and try to figure out where she deliberately slandered Daniel and accused him of having ties to terrorist organizations which can literally put his life as well as the life of his family in danger. If you watched this whole debate and failed to notice her poor arguments and childish attempts at belittling him, then that’s your problem not mine. Go waste someone else’s time.

[@islamicreminders3090]

@@northernrebel1402 gold medal and salute to the man who'd wanna marry her 😂😂😂 rather slit my throat to be honest hahahaha

[@TheOneStraightPath]

@@northernrebel1402 You're right, it's pointless in wasting any more of my time with you either, the one who wasn't paying attention is you, I have watched it many times over, and that's how I know exactly what was said and who was playing the dirty tricks and throwing low blows. (he does it with all of his opponents) I am not taken by his constant virtue signalling, false modesty and humbleness, Daniel overlays his victim card. Twice he tried to put words in her mouth, and she didn't take the bait, he tried to confuse her, she didn't flinch, there is nothing she accused him of that couldn't be verified, or I didn't know about it before, that others didn't accuse him of. She showed his views from his articles, he tried to take her words and twist them around as he often does, this is not the first time I've seen him do this, I have been watching him for quite some time. When things don't go his way, plays the victim card while he was the one on the offensive. Daniel is fake, and one day (if you're for the truth) you will find out the hard way. Personally, I have nothing against him if it weren't for his extreme unIslamic views. He is consciously and deliberately misleading naive and trusting followers. Blindly follow him and his radicalism. Why doesn't he go and live in a Muslim country then? Ask him, if he is so keen on being so pious and so close to the truth? But he likes the freedom that he enjoys in those atheistic and secular countries that he constantly bashes, this is what I call a hypocrite a two-faced individual,. Let's just leave it at that.

[@northernrebel1402]

@@islamicreminders3090 LOL true. If anybody wants to consider her for marriage, then he should watch this video first. 😆

[@hsama4969]

The more I hear this woman, the more I am convinced of why the Prophet peace be upon him, said the most followers of dejjal will be women. Thank you Daniel for clearing things up may Allah bless you and protect you 🤲

[@zakme5638]

Spot on

[@abubandarattamimi1641]

I love my brother Daniel, wallah I love you brother, you’re Among the people, like sheikh Karim abuzaid, trying to guide the American muslim community out of the the mirage that was placed over their eyes of this so called Islam being propagated by the sheikhs of MISGUIDANCE. Wallah I love Daniel and sheikh Karim abuzaid, flag bearers of the sunnah

[@northernrebel1402]

There’s also Shaykh Uthman Ibn Farooq. Another lion in the American Muslim community.

[@thealpha1687]

May Allah bless them both!

[@hxyzazolchak]

We all love this brother for the sake of Allah. May Allah increase him in all goodness

[@MommywithAnattitude]

I'm having second hand embarrassment for this sister and her desperation

[@amo36]

She said “I’ve read everything there is to be read on Islam in English and in Urdu” but she couldn’t provide sources and references for her jumbled arguments. Just a bunch of straw man arguments, baseless insults and accusations. So much for her beloved education!

[@botbeamer]

Yeah, when feminists talk about education they don't mean true education in order to gain knowledge, what they mean is fake "education" degrees certificates which serve to give them authority and power that's what they are really looking for it's pathetic

[@louxjoh]

Brothers & Sisters, I learned this from experience, women empowerment destroyed me, as someone who is young and really wanted to "go out there" and "show what I've got" because of this dangerous narrative of women being out in the society, I can completely say that I was tricked; I learned my lesson, and am happy I got the chance to correct things, that my natural abilities are meant to care and love my family, to be the comfort in the eyes of my future spouse, and that's not inferior, that's what you call curb your beauty...

[@mahaa3581]

man shut up... its not our fault you've been bra.nwashed by all the madrassa Aholes

[@mohamedab9033]

@@mahaa3581 Go clean your indian streets

[@naimajama8465]

If you step out of the eco chamber you will see how crazy these people are.

[@mahaa3581]

@@mohamedab9033 I’m not an Indian lmao 😂

[@mahaa3581]

People like you are the reason why islamophobia is rampant. Maybe we deserve it. Seeing all the backwards regressive people here is making me sick to my stomach.

[@askfaisalmuslim]

Ladies, if you talk like Safiyya, most men automatically think "not marriage material".

[@adama7721]

True story

[@ifthekar9195]

You cant be more precise and perfect

[@luluena2403]

Even her tone is pure arrogance

[@lalita9041]

Good. Thats what I want.

[@MasterShadow.]

@@lalita9041 When you're in your 40s, you'll regret it and will remember this comment.

[@AminUllah-jz9uu]

Instead of responding to questions. She: Let me share my PPT slides 😅

[@TariqRidwan]

Lol exactly, even she was reading things that she wrote before, not debating.

[@mojoesodope2082]

The moment a person uses PowerPoint slides for the rebuttal section of the debate, they already lost the debate. PowerPoint slides are made BEFOREHAND and it makes sense to use them for your intro. Not for rebuttal. If you're using slides for rebuttal, then you're not really rebuttle-ing, you're just extending your intro into the rebuttal. Only people with a weak understanding of the topic resort to this tactic. Harris did this and got humiliated. Other atheists also use the same tactic.

[@prayerisbetterthansleep]

As a woman I completely agree with Daniel 👌 There was no need for this sister to bash him and completely disrespect him. If you're going to debate a Muslim have some type of respect for each other.

[@AmelDousary1]

So much more respect for brother Daniel, even though I've had a lot of respect for him. Such patience, such composer, such knowledge. I salute you.

[@EmilyGutierrezmh]

This was very beneficial for me as I am a muslim revert sister looking to get married. I learned that I need to prioritize my role as a muslim women and cater to my future husband and children. In all honesty, if the sistet here was really soon to get married then she would not have been able to spend a whole year studying Daniel she would have been busy studying how to cook and how to take care of her children and preparing for her marriage.

[@jiyu5990]

As a woman, I was very excited about this debate and had so much hope from this woman that I learned a lot and saw a new perspective. I couldn't hear her talk after 1 hour, a complete disappointment, I wish she had stayed factual.

[@kpr..14]

same. i don’t fully agree with daniel so i looked forward to seeing if my views matched hers but she was so rude and inconsistent. disappointing.

[@OwnGrid]

@@kpr..14 funny how people think their opinions change the facts lol