Feminists Outcry Wins DC comics

[@Repzion]

Sorry about the black bars, I accidentally formatted the output file in the wrong resolution, deal with the blackness :P

[@lemongear6802]

It's okay, we still love the video! :P

[@totorox888]

It is pretty damn annoying but I still enjoyed the video!

[@mattsims6211]

deenman23 What are you talking about?You're joking right?

[@Its_PaPez]

(insert blind accusation of racism here)

[@unfiltered577]

Oh, now you have a problem with BLACK bars. What about white bars? I never see you complaining about them.

[@Barnacules]

I always thought the point of feminism is to have equal rights and to be treated equally? It seems counter productive to their cause to basically get anything shut down when a woman is put in place of a man? I mean if it was cat woman holding a gun to jokers head then it would be okay? It should be okay either way because 1) FANTASY and being 2) Equality... Right?

[@BlackMasterJoe89]

Yeah, it's confusing. They object to being portrayed and want it gone but then they can just turn around and say women don't get equal treatment.

[@KarenBear]

***** , love your comment, and so true

[@modbeastly]

The gun isn't pointed at her head even! The Jokers body language is so loose. Why is she paralyzed in fear? She's a member of the Batfamily, she should be tougher than that. Batman doesn't cry when the Joker has his arm around him.

[@TheFreemanAlways]

Exactly. Also keep up the good work jerry

[@Just_Another_Piece_Of_Toast]

***** ok how much do I have to pay to buy your account name. tell me now !!

[@swiftlysimmer3618]

Films: When a man hits a woman: the man is evil and is promoting domestic abuse against women When a woman hits a man: HA HA HA HA This is hilarious!

[@jezzupwuzzup]

Double standards, both genders got em. Today, it's trendy to view men as scum. Honestly, it's a lot easier to see misandry than misogyny, shit, misandry isn't even a word in the dictionary.

[@fallensolger666]

Feminists not all but the cunts that got dc to do this want to take over the world only women can have power

[@jezzupwuzzup]

***** Oh really? When I type misandry there's a red squiggly line under it.

[@fallensolger666]

you seem to think I give a f*** about feminists the point I was trying to show is art should not be tampered with nor controlled by special interests it is for the viewer to understand and the Creator to display no matter the subject matter it is an idea or thought process that creators trying to show so censoring the voices of the creator is not only telling him or her what they can make but pandering in to popular demand art really has no definition it is a display on the creator's ideas and thought processes it is like trampling free speech so to the radical feminist you don't like this or the comic picture in question when can we take your freedom of speech can we take your right to say any bullshit double standard denying s*** you want to say demoralizing man in comic books is the same as demoralizing women in comic books or any other medium so in short I'm done with this conversation so you up tight c**** can f*** off

[@RolyatSille]

***** dictionary.reference.com/browse/misandry Your computer's automatic work bank is flawed. It doesn't mean it's not in any dictionary. Try picking up an actual dictionary next time.

[@Graoutchmeuh]

So...Criminals cannot be pictured doing crimes anymore unless it offends someone...What a great world we live in.

[@CaecusYT]

I agree

[@Murphio25]

The joker is supposed to be a madman who doesn't give a shit. I feel you

[@asnierkishcowboy]

Im sure the criminals in reality will make sure they dont offend anyone with their crimes as well then :)

[@AgnosticCube]

John Galois feminists are nothing more than Terrorist. they use fear and intimidation to bully people into submitting to their illconcieved ideolgy.

[@AgnosticCube]

***** would be surprised if you coulf pick that exakt child out of a grouping of 5 based on that, at best, vague picture.

[@TheMarcodiator]

We need to start ignoring these so called "femminists".

[@ravener96]

thatonesarcasticguy they are a large enough group that they can just pay attention to themselves and it will be enough.

[@wishingW3L]

the problem is not even feminists, it's the double standard of political correctness from the self-righteous people on the left. This is a political issue between the so called progressives (anti-free speech) vs liberals (pro free speech). The comic audience ignored all these political bullshit and that's why this is happening. Something similar started with video games which is what caused gamergate to become a thing, but it's being slandered to oblivion by the press which is mainly this sort of left-wing "that's offensive" nutjob hivemind.

[@calebjohnson3537]

Exactly what we should do because every time that they do some shit like this it only makes them think that their method is working so every one should just ignore the feminist

[@aymanmahdi2010]

MrRepzion stopped talking about religion if he ignores "femminists" he'll have to close this channel lol

[@TheCrippledEgg]

If we do that, they'll just call it sexist.

[@IccyTheOne]

None of them complained when in Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker, Robin (Tim Drake) who was a kid at the time was kidnapped by Harley Quinn and Tortured by the Joker.

[@umpalumpa826]

That cover with The Joker and Batgirl is really beautiful tbh. Where can I get it? It's background worthy! It's a shame these house wives made DC get rid of it.

[@blackboard212]

i personally wouldnt say its house wives so much as the 17-26 yr old people. who r trying to find something to stand for and doing it completely wrong. :D

[@spoonlolol2]

You can't, it was never printed because too many feminists complained

[@blackboard212]

go sign the pretiction to put it back on its a few comments down i believe :)

[@legomonjones5077]

You can get it here. i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/760/661/342.gif

[@PinkC_ntWagon666]

Umpa Lumpa here is the actual picture. benjaminherman.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/batgirl-variant-by-rafael-albuquerque.jpg?w=800

[@emilengen7825]

The joker is not interested in women or men, he is interested in chaos.

[@4getfulness16]

I'm sick of these feminists who think they're feminists but are really whiny little cry babies. I read the New 52 story arc of Death in the Family. *SPOILERS AHEAD* In that story Joker torments the likes of Batman, Catwoman, Robin, Red Robin, Red Hood, Nightwing and Batgirl. He has the entire Batfamily tied to chairs and their faces all covered up and smeared in what looks like blood. He then makes them believe that HE CUT OFF THEIR FACES! Each cover of the characters story arc which interlinks with this story has said character (Batman, Nightwing, Red Robin etc...) either tied up by Joker or with Joker style faces and grins. Why does no one talk about that? If the Batgirl one is so "contraversial" then what about these ones? Because they're male? Because it's 100% ok for Red Robin and Nightwing to be tormented by Joker but not Batgirl?! The entirety of the Killing Joke story is more contraversial than that cover you cry baby feminists!

[@4getfulness16]

Also wanted to add that these "feminists" probably don't read comics.

[@4getfulness16]

rockandrollathon Yes I know it is. Mr. Repzion already pointed out I think so thats why I didnt mention it. Killing Joke was the first comic I properly read and I loved every bit of it. Feminazis have no idea what they are on about half the time. Seriously.

[@4getfulness16]

strontiumXnitrate Feminism is also supposed to represent equality for all.

[@4getfulness16]

strontiumXnitrate Hence why I said supposed to. Thats why Im not a feminist.

[@4getfulness16]

strontiumXnitrate Thanks haha

[@Quasarguy123]

Joker in his long history has only showed sexual feelings towards Batman. He is completely asexual with everyone else.

[@Quasarguy123]

***** I was talking about the comics. And I'm a big fan of your work Mr Adam.

[@Josh_2976]

Rage Dulexe that's really a thing?

[@MRmeomania]

and you thought the feminazie knew that, how cute of you.

[@Ampwich]

Holy crap....DC Comics is pretty....dark compared to Marvel!

[@2210jordanclayton]

***** did you notice that she lost the baby if you go back after there are many negative results that were not there before

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

Ahhh, so thats the pic that got so many idiots annoyed, she looks scared because he might cut off her skin, not because he might rape her, Joker has NEVER been sexual, just looks at Harley Quinn, she has a body and mind that someone like him should like but he's never shown much intrest in her that way, she's just a henchman to him, one that he can easily manipulate.

[@jimbob1862]

The ironic thing is that the variant cover references a story in which Joker kidnapped Batgirl, beat her, took naked photos of her, sent them to her dad and its heavily implied that he rapes her. But of course they didnt complain about that story, they complain about a damn good and fitting variant cover.

[@DarthSenorQueso]

jamal munir its not implied at all that he raped her and people did complain about the killing joke.

[@jimbob1862]

Hebi-chan My bad, been a long time since I read comics. But, where did people complain?

[@davidlewis6728]

and can be easily manipulated.

[@scottsmith9813]

That's not true, he has slept with Harley before

[@emilengen7825]

The joker is a lot of things but rapist is not one of them.

[@athomheart]

So because of Feminist, vilains can no longer act has vilains?

[@pinkrocker61401]

exactly. the joker kills people and they got mad because hes has his finger in a gun position and the girl is scared.

[@gabrielrangel956]

No, they can do villainous things as long as their victims are men. You people are always misrepresenting feminism.

[@athomheart]

Gabriel Rangel Really, why? Because a man life have no value. Feminazie mentality bullshit.

[@HappyPotat]

Gabriel Rangel I think you're the one misrepresenting it? You're kinda being sexist towards men now.

[@Dsi1ver]

athomheart haha, villains cannot be portrayed as villains!? what a great metaphor.

[@TrueMG]

When men see Batman in danger: "Oh great! I wonder how he will survive this and saves the day!" When extreme feminists see Batgirl in danger: "There is no way a fragile weak women can defeat a man."

[@jaxofalltradez]

This is so stupid -_- My boyfriend's mother is a pin up artist and she does covers like this for comics and such. I think they are beautiful pieces of art. What is wrong with admiring the female body? It is art. As a female I see no sexual objectifing. It is so silly that radical feminist are taking away artistic ability to display anything. So many stupid double standards and picking through. So much for equality for all feminism...

[@SoupyGal]

Not all feminists are like you people are saying... I'm a feminist because I want equal rights. Not because I hate men. I want everyone to be treated equally.

[@CrunchySammich]

Nobody believes you, if you weren't sexist, you would ditch the feminazi label.

[@Makorie]

I'm gonna quote konaramen here ; "By pursuing equality for only one side, you end up with favoritism."

[@gabrielfeliciano-cruz667]

The issue with that "not all feminists are like that" is you get Into a gray area. This isn't directed at you in particular but quite often we bump into a no true Scotsman fallacy where someone isn't a real feminist once they do something like this. While I believe the intentions of feminism long ago were more focused on equal rights back in a time where I truly think women were more disadvantaged than men were, modern feminism has failed to account for the issues that men face and that women face and accurately solving the source of the problem. One of the big divides that people fall into is of a patriarchy exists. this is a common feminist belief, unless you fall into equity feminism, which a lot of people don't agree exists. I identify as egalitarian and I believe whatever intentions feminism originally had are completely gone now thanks to the new wave that is around. Does the definition of feminism change due to the people that are using it, or does the definition stay the same and simply people are misidentifying themselves? That's the question you want to ask yourself that will decide if you want to use the label feminist or egalitarian.

[@proudguardofwhiterun5770]

"Everyone" or women? Because if you want "everyone" to be equal, then you are more than a feminist. That is called "Egalitarianist". Just saying.

[@tamiresdias2412]

Yeah because hating men isn't feminism, it's misandry. People need to stop getting these two mixed up. And btw "equality for one side" makes no sense.

[@andrewmiddlemas791]

I would like to point out a few things that may not be fully considered when talking about the variant cover and "sexual assault on batman". Of the Variant itself, personally I like it. I think it is a great homage/nod to the Killing joke and for those versed in the lore/understand the reference it makes a lot of sense. However, if you are coming into Batgirl, or have just seen the cover out of context, it looks pretty bad. A terrified teen/young woman (i forget how old she is in this comic) with a creepy older guy in a dominant position paints a VERY bad picture when you are marketing your comic to young women. As a business it makes TOTAL sense for DC to not put that out there as its akin to shooting themselves in the foot with the primary reader base (of that comic). The artist and DC were, as far as I can tell, already in the process of pulling this before things blew up (more on that below) As to "Why aren't feminists talking about batman comics (as per the examples)" that is easy to answer. Male heroes (comic or otherwise) are more relate-able when in the throws of adversity. I won't read Wolverine for he dialogue, I read for the ass kickin he does that goes with the story. Very FEW superheroes get you on the ground floor without the violence/struggle to pull you in. Female superheroes on the other hand fall under the same problem Women (in real life) have a problem with. Seeing a woman get the tar kicked out of her is something society shy's away from (same with women who are super crazy killers, think mama from Dredd but doing the actual killing). Better writing and pushing forward through the fog with those in hand would really help (in general) to get better female characters/stories written and produced. Lastly, the whole debacle of how this was handled online is just sad. One side lamenting the virtues and situation of a character they may actually know nothing about besides "It has to do with Batman because there is 'Bat' in her name) while the otherside (in typical fashion as well) throws every virtrol hatebomb they have in their arsenal like that some how is going to change things. the TL:DR version: They were already changing it because it didn't go with the vision they have for a Batgirl comic aimed at teens/young women. Everyone started shouting, and DC said "F it" and shut it down.

[@HappyPotat]

And to be fair about Spider Woman; 1) Spider woman is supposed to have spider powers. 2) Not many people have heard of Spider Woman (though saying that I'm sure feminists will now use that as an excuse). When you think about it, most of the time, radical feminists are actually more sexist towards women than others.

[@pleinair6318]

Yeah, this is my first time hearing about Spider Woman, I don't see anything wrong with her, she is just a female version of Spider Man.

[@HappyPotat]

Sai22 Yeah...with lasers.

[@davidlewis6728]

Sai22 i think this whole sex change of characters shit has gone to far, bat woman, Thor, and now this... superman even got ripped off... why don't they make more independent female superheros and villains instead of taking an already existing superhero and making him (always him, never her) lose his masculinity. seems more sexist for both sides if you just remake them... also, static shock is Black Thor but didn't look anything like Thor and wasn't even in the same universe (kinda) and guess what... SUCCESS. i can't stand hearing the name bat woman because it makes me think of failure to much.

[@pleinair6318]

***** They're probably afraid to make them independent because, they think society wont accept them and they'll lose money in result. But that's my hypothesis.

[@IccyTheOne]

***** No dude, Spider-Woman is TOTALLY different from spider-man. In origin, identity, and powers even. She has no relation to spiderman in fact, I believe she actually works for S.W.O.R.D., a rival organization to S.H.I.E.L.D. in Marvel comics.

[@BenReillySpydr1962]

The Joker is a bad guy so by that logic you're supposed to feel somewhat uncomfortable by his antics however entertaining they may be. He isn't portrayed as a role model nor should he be. So if the cover made you uncomfortable then it did it's job, that's the whole point. Why pull it? This seems odd to me it's like I called a plumber to fix my toilet then I have him fired for doing it so well.

[@Midare13]

I really would love for Alan Moore chime in on all this drama, badly. I have the feeling it would be a beautiful thing to see. Btw, the author of the comic that was supposed to have this cover have blocked a lot of people. I don't read american comics, I tend to only like a few and I'm not a person that knows that much about them and I didn't even knew of the name of the author till all this happened. Went to check his twitter out of curiosity and nope, blocked.

[@5Picoseconds]

Midare13 I can see it now "BACK IN MY DAY *Insert something really stupid about comics in the 80's being better*"

[@Midare13]

Owningtehfeedz Yeah that's not exactly what I was saying. More along the lines of Moore being a very intelligent person. He'd would say pretty good things about the current so called feminism.

[@5Picoseconds]

Midare13 I know what you meant, I just wanted to make the joke about his odd ramblings about the comicbook industry

[@lemonemmi]

"You can't draw that, it offends me." Now where have I heard that before..?

[@ShyGuyXXL]

This video offends me. Therefore I am somehow entitled to force you to remove it from KZbin because... ...reasons!

[@KarRuptAssassin]

"You have the right to free speech, not the right to not be offended."

[@Moneymakinglinksmedia]

You have the right to remain silent. Any thing you say can and will be used against you in a court of Feminists.

[@urbangirlparis]

I am a girl and I'm terrified of what's happening to the comic book world ( marvel, DC) and also the video game world . These bitches are doing nothing but pit men and women against each other . I read comic books and played video games all my life ( while also doing girl things , i define myself as a feminine girl, I don't spend the day in baggy jeans or something) , never have I heard such bullshit . so what the girls are sexy and in leather outfits ? so are the guys right ? plus the superheroes are suppose to be attractive and sexy . look at batman , doesn't his suit remind you of an S&m outfit ? yes, because it was implied , same thing for catwoman . everyone enjoyed it, men, and women . that's also the commercial goal of the comic, appeal to people . these feminists are talking about things they don't understand . I doubt they are real comic book fans, OR even video game fans for that matter . all they do is give female gamers and comic book fans a bad name and I don't appreciate that .

[@johnconstantine1604]

UrbanGirl Paris great point!

[@urbangirlparis]

John Constantine they are ruining everything , a little bit like will ferrell in "lego movie" , they just don't get it... it's not about men, women, or feminists, it's about the game/comic book, period!

[@sabrinaloizides-merideth9874]

I think it's a beautiful cover. It's very well drawn and I love it.

[@calemr]

I know this is an old video, but in a far more modern example of something similar is claims that the x-men posters are misogynist because apocalypse is choking mystique. And I say to this the same thing I said about that: Do feminists not know what a villain is? Do they think everything portrayed is in a positive, promoting light? Do they believe Inglorious Basterds is pro jew killing, because it portrays nazis? I mean, sure, they're the bad guys, everything they do is considered repulsive, and the entire movie is about killing them, but THAT isn't important! Are we not allowed to have villains exist? I mean, the joker kills people! I guess DC are pro murder!

[@garymont4801]

YESSS Finally This Is Type Of Videos That I Like From MrRepzion, Been Waited For So Long! You Go Boy #equality #mensrights #sexualobjectification #feminist #doublestandards

[@Likablock1507]

This wasn't pulled because of the petition, it was pulled because the artist said that the variant was made without him knowing and it clashed with direction they wanted the story to go. Not because of feminists, do your research.

[@5Picoseconds]

Likablock1507 No, that's the story they published. This crap happens all the time, with Marvel/DC giving bullshit reasons like this to justify it

[@DemonixGamer]

2:34 "The Joker is a rapist, abuser, mysogynist..." Well of course he is - He's a super-villain and a pretty fucked up in the head one at that. XD

[@DemonixGamer]

But that's fine because DC comics are SUPPOSED to be dark.

[@youtuber-MGTOW]

since when is being offended an argument ? i don´t care, if you feminists are offended. don´t buy it, if you don´t like it. how dare you feminazis telling others what to like and what not !?

[@grapefruitsimmons]

What I see when I look at that cover is a reference to The Killing Joke where Joker shows up at Barbra and Jim Gordons house and shoots her through the spine paralyzing her. In The Killing Joke he paralyzes her, kidnaps her, strips her naked and takes pictures, and shows them to Jim Gordon in an attempt to show him how easily someone can go insane and become just like Joker. Im paraphrasing but thats the gist of the story. Its a reference because he's holding the same gun and wearing the same clothes as he did when he shot her. So why is it so horrible that he painted a bloody smile on her face?

[@grapefruitsimmons]

Grapefruit Simmons totally wrote this before i got to the part where you explain it lol high youtubeing ftw lol

[@coolkid0005]

Hey MrRepzion, so I am 14 and recently turned a femenist, and I can say there are definitely flawless in some femenist's ideas or actions but I think a woman being sexual is fine, or portrayed as being sexual, and we shouldn't remove art simply because it offends people. I think the only reason we should remove something is because it is encouraging rape culture. I love your Reaction videos (Face Palm Sunday) and hoping you could do a video on The Potty-Mouthed Princesses on one of their Feminism Videos? I would like to know your thoughts on it. Also, maybe you could do a video on your thoughts on Cameron Dallas's arrest. Thanks for your video!

[@brandoninthecloak6726]

Rape culture is a ridiculous term.

[@gladjohnson3117]

>so I am 14 and recently turned a femenist It's never late to become a human again.

[@brandoninthecloak6726]

Mad Johnson is right. Come back to us kid.

[@ktl10hawk]

Come back to reality. Don't fall into their hugbox of lies.

[@endlessslumber441]

Become a humanitarian instead.

[@ZeroFighter]

I am reminded of Dee Snider's speech at the PMRC hearing from 1985. If you go in actively looking for something in art, you're probably gonna find it.

[@MishkaNeiljj]

Btw-awesome video. I found your page, after your shameless plug in Barnacules's video at the ECCC. Sweet costume-Keep on truckin, Homeskillet!

[@MrJambola123]

Great logic i must say "Forget about those people who are nice and positive and say nothing but good things about the comics that they buy, but those annoying negative people who probably don't even buy our comics and call them sexist etc, yeah let's" give them what they want"

[@linus6029]

the response to the joker cover should have been "well he is the villain what did you expect?"

[@sciguy98]

Technically you described "incentive covers". Variant covers needn't be especially rare. You often get A-B covers (you order 100 and you get 50 cover A and 50 cover B) or other special covers that a store can order freely. Incentive covers are locked behind purchase minimums or ratios like 1:50, 1:100, or even as high as 1:500. Source: I work for Diamond Comic Distributors.

[@God66]

They should have tried to release a cover with Harley Quinn instead of the Joker and Batman instead of Batgirl... The Feminazi wouldn't even have batted an eye

[@cashflagg9728]

I love how feminists are calling the Joker a misogynist and a rapist. That's kind of like calling Osama Bin Laden a jay-walker.

[@LilChuunosuke]

Hey Mr. Repizon, do you think you could maybe start adding your new website link into the video description with the business inquiries and social media links? It's a great site, in my opinion and I think it would be great to have it there with all the other links for many reasons.

[@Kodabonesies]

if people are offended by a comic book cover it's not that the cover is offensive, it's an internal issue within themselves that they need to work out.

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

2:12 no. it was pulled begause the artist didn't like the cover and wanted to change it.

[@Kindrick]

"C'mon, Mr J, don't ya wanna rev up your Harley? Vroom vroom!" -Harley Quinn

[@xxxAlbelxxx]

His first question, what do you see? My immediate answer outloud - "A woman with a broken neck."

[@webmaster369]

How has it gone unnoticed by these people that, and correct me if I'm wrong here, THE JOKER IS THE BAD GUY. Why are we outraged that he's depicted doing bad things? He's the fucking villain!

[@connorjohn9256]

The batgirl/joker cover is amazing. That right there is fantastic artistry.

[@lordofthebricks1]

It is not about Feminism, it is all about stupid and greedy people who wants to see comic book fans suffer. Feminism is just excuse. Why? Because they didn't make a shit in their life,and they want to ruin someone's career. That's just what people are, jealous bastards,who have not any life,and they want to ruin someone's happiness.

[@jamesblair2713]

Feminists: WHAT DO WE WANT? TO STOP THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN! HOW DO WE WANT IT? BY OPPRESSING ARTISTS! BTW, if they're offended because a bad guy is doing bad things, then what are they offended about? HE'S THE ANTAGONIST! HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING BAD THINGS!

[@ThatUmbrellaGuy]

Something that bothered me about the Joker/Batgirl cover is the narrative feminists endorse. Batgirl constantly has nightmares about the Joker coming back for her. She mentions this many times in the New 52 series that was feminist endorsed, so why doesn't this reflect the nightmarish and not a "rape fantasy," as they continually imply?

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

"I offend you? how does it feel that mere words can hurt you." -Tyr

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

What I don't get is how depicting a villain doing something is promoting or condoning that something. So, okay, let's say the Joker actually is a rapist... what's the problem, here? He's the villain. Bad guys do bad things. That's WHY they're bad guys. And when the bad guy does something, naturally, you want to do the exact opposite. If a bad guy rapes, that's saying "Don't rape, or you'll be as bad as him!" Why don't the feminists see it this way?

[@PickaHand]

I don't read DC comics but that cover (Batgirl and Joker) was really good in my opinion. I don't know am I more angry towards the radical feminists or DC for failing to realize that they weren't offending "people" per se. An audience that consists of people that get routinely offended by EVERYTHING should not have that kind of power over a company. I think I'm angrier towards DC. I was expecting this from the "rad" feminists... Did NOT expect for DC to cave in. These rad-feminists either hold far too much power or DC just gave up too easily.

[@LateGameReviewer01]

is this a take on your darkness MrRepzion... I accept your darkness...your blackbars lol

[@EllieJayden]

I don't understand how people can't understand that this cover makes sense due to Gordon being tortured by The Joker in The Killing Joke. If people didn't like the cover, no one was forcing them to buy it.

[@doombybbr]

5:50 but he did, then he cuts her to bits and stuffed those bits in a refrigerator, granted it wasn't a very good version of the joker, ask linkara about it - but the fact is that HE IS THE VILLAIN, even if he did it you could write it off as the writers implying that the act is morally reprehensable, but NOOOOOOO, the feminists have to forget about that obvious detail.

[@pallete9844]

can you post a link to the art, i really like it and would like to use it as a background

[@TheLaughingVampire]

There's a cover of "A Death in the Family" which features Batman grieving over a Robin who had been beaten to a bloody pulp. Yet I don't see anyone of these women screeching over that.

[@SuperSaiyanMaze]

WHAT!? You mean the Joker, a bad guy, might *gasp* DO BAD THINGS TO PEOPLE!? No, heaven forbid!

[@robertclarke941]

Thank you! I got into a HUGE Facebook battle with assholes last week over this cover.

[@maddieilluminate6308]

I'm a woman and I wouldn't mind seeing another woman in a seductive or sexual position. How do you know I'm not gay, pan, bi, or demi. Hell I could be streight and still like it. However, according to femmenazis all woman are streight and don't like seeing other women look good.

[@thatmaninit]

the reason that the killing joke cover was pulled was because the artist did not think that it fit the storyline and did not think that batgirl would look that scared on her own comic cover. the artist also said he didn't pull it because of the pressure it was simply his own editing. kind of like when a scene for a movie doesn't look the way the director wants it to look he edits it out.

[@IAmError0706]

Damn you hit the nail right on the head, feminism specifically almost isn't the entire issue at hand here, but rather the idea that it is now possible for any piece of art to be banned or unreleased just because some deem it to be offensive. Where does it end? At what point are we not allowed to express ideas because we're afraid of how those ideas might be perceived?

[@ChopStixize]

its the fucking Joker the same guy who blows up hospitals, filled entire cemeteries, beat Robin to death with a crowbar, etc. and that's some of the more mellow shit that he's done, i mean the dude went SANE from going into the lazarus pit

[@disasterblast]

Had no idea there was feminist outcry over this cover, but then again, I'm not surprised. I just thought the objection was over the fact the Batgirl comics tend to be lighter in tone, and that was a fairly dark cover.

[@johnalldis6659]

Really takes the phrase 'Why we can't have good things' and slaps us silly with it.

[@RospettoVerte]

That Joker looks like the Hi Jacker of that one station in the 80s

[@CrystalNibarger]

The only thing I will say about Joker being an abuser is that he was physically and emotionally abusive towards Harley aside from that he tries to kill everyone for his own gain.

[@jaythan4534]

thank you for this video and sharing what was really going, for i didnt really know or understand the full story. I do hope they release the book because DC or every company NEED to realise is that the group of people who are complaining about this "problems" is not their demographic or their fans. I bet every comic fan / DC fan would buy the book and have no problems with the cover. im very confident that DC sales on this comic wouldnt suffer at all. i bet all these people complianing about this picture does not even read comics to begin with, they must not even know that this story of the "killing joke" was already made back in the day. These people are so ignorant that they will say anything and never back it up with research. Just talk out of their ass and what they feel at the heat of the moment or what they feel at the moment, than THINK ABOUT IT. LEARN what it is all about. ETC. in the story there is no rape. so how can it be making young people want to rape. the bad guy gets punnished for what he has done so why would anyone read this and say "if i do bad things ill get punished, i should go do bad things.." it doesnt make senese.

[@Xanegoh]

let's ignore the fact that the Joker is a delusional, unhinged, sadistic sociopath, and would do the same thing to any character regardless of their sex.

[@mymidnightmistery]

to be honest that second picture with the Joker, my first thought- BADASS!

[@cocobarbarian1510]

The worst part is they don't even read comics and they win by getting shit pulled down and the ones who end up losing are actual comic book readers

[@brettralph5516]

Men aren't objectified anywhere near the level women are in the media, so it's not surprising that the first thing plenty of people think when they see these covers is sexualisation and what not.

[@superstd]

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[@superstd]

men have it worse because of misandry in media .

[@brettralph5516]

I'd agree that instances of male specific gender roles on TV, along with scenes in which, if the roles were reversed, would lead to controversy but are otherwise fine because of gender, (e.g. a woman comically slapping a man, flip that and you've got something that could only be perceived as assault), aren't anything to be content with, but to equate this to misandry in the media appears a little far fetched. I'd argue that the prevalence of the objectification/sexualisation of women in the media has far more damaging consequences on society, portraying them as little else than sex objects.

[@superstd]

Charles Owen -_- www.google.co.id/search?q=sexy+selfie&biw=1360&bih=657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=_sEcVZ3wFdG9ugSxj4DwAw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

[@blonxinprontixin8434]

4:50 Oh no I accidentally dropped my comic of Batman Knightfall 11 that clearly shows BATMAN'S BACK BEING BROKEN.

[@RA9935]

The most HILARIOUS thing is, they dont complain about rule 34

[@TheRealVordox]

If I remember correct the writers of the comic book actually pulled it when they were choosing which papers to use as variant and thus lead to the cancellation of that variant, however it was released later on from the book makers, as for when Rafael(If I remember the artist name) also wished it to be pulled during the time of the harassment on the people who wanted it pulled.

[@wandererstraining]

I don't get why people keep apologizing for pissing off these wannabe feminists who seemingly have nothing better to do. I think I'd either get mad and tell them to fuck off and that I don't give a shit about how they feel and I'm not responsible for it, or I'd just take it easy and not reply.

[@Bladezeromus]

Honestly, i'm offended by that Harely Quinn cover. Batman's chained up with his crotch up in the air and Harely looking insane with a mallet in her hands. Looks like she's going to have her way with him, then smash his junk. Oh, silly me! I forgot that to feminists it's funny when a man's genitals are mutilated.

[@MSCookiesx]

I actually use the DC Joker and Batgirl cover as my lock screen now

[@MrEyebrowz]

Stupidity breeds more stupidity. And unfortunately, stupidity can be a very powerful thing.

[@doomkitty6627]

I'm a feminist and I like that variant cover, the artist did a great job, I love art and there should be freedom in artistic expression and honestly I like the portrayal of women in comic books, they're not victims they're badass and who cares how they are being posed or if they have cleavage. Feminists fought for the right to be able to wear what they want because women have the right to and who cares what they wear as long as it's clear that the character chose to wear that and as long as women keep on having these badass personalities x

[@DeathBlackWish]

The biggest problem I have with all this is the limit of free speech. A bunch of femenists get all pissy about something and it limits what people can draw? It really makes me mad.

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

Crouches down in corner and repeatedly slams head against wall.

[@1undeadmoth]

What's that mask under the hylian shield from?

[@Brandon579JB]

Where can. I get that picute i wanen for a wallpaper un my computer

[@YologamerY13]

I like your argumentative style +1 sub

[@leaflylove5829]

I don't know, some feminists don't understand that feminism actually means equality of the sexes, not more power over men. Women are sometimes obviously objectified which can be bad, but just because a woman is portrayed "sexily" doesn't always mean it's a bad thing.

[@gothatfunk]

even IF the Joker is an abusive misogynistic psycho, *he's a 'bad guy'* FFS. he's not supposed to be admired for his virtues.

[@slimmy_0076]

If anything I'd say the batgirl cover is more to do with her age than her gender well to me at least. the sense of fear doesn't come from the fact that she's female it's that she's young it would be the same if robin was in her place, they aren't prepared enough to take on the joker type of thing

[@qsqua]

To quote the Amazing Atheist: "If feminists did not have double standards, they'd have no standards at all."

[@recentryan321]

You know what I see. I see something that would probably PARALYZE me.

[@PinkoJack]

The only way to stop it is to boycott them. If you stop buying those issues and you write letters to DC explaining why you are no longer buying their comics, they will have to think twice before they censor themselves.

[@FadeAway1694]

Kinda reminds me of their outcry over the "Training To Be Batman's Wife" shirts. Just a little bit.

[@gipro1]

The Batgirl cover was actually a powerful image in an artistic way. Who needs good imagery though when we can care way too much about nothing...

[@Murphio25]

About the cover, it's supposed to be THE JOKER! You would think a madman who literally dresses like a clown might do something to batgirl if she was held hostage and it's not like he's on the hero's side. You can sympathise with him at BEST.

[@MisogynyMan]

Those aren't even radical feminists protesting that cover, its mild feminists, SJW's and even non-feminists. Did you see the response drawing made of Doomsday "oppressing" Superman in a similar manner? I thought both drawings were awesome.

[@JB0523]

I wanna buy that joker/batgirl cover now. It's going to be so rare someday

[@dare2bawesome]

The Joker is a villain. Even if this cover hints at domestic violence or rape, the Joker IS AN EVIL MAN. No one says, "Oh, DC had a comic where Joker shot someone! They're promoting gun violence!". Anything the Joker does is pretty much a bad thing. So I don't see why this "implied" whatever means that DC is being misogynistic. From the animated TV shows we already know that the Joker abuses Harley Quinn. So while it's not a stretch to say that this cover depicts domestic abuse, there is in no way an approval of that abuse. If batman was replacing Joker in this scene, I might have some issues. But a villain doing villainous things? Hardly head turning.

[@Sargumphigaus]

In a way, I wish the joker were real, just to see how he would screw with this trend of thought process. Well no,not real, that'd be terrifying, but it would be interesting to see an issue published where the joker were subjected to people like this. I'm sure it would be hilarious, dark, and damn entertaining.

[@mariec8619]

Omg I remember you from Eric douglace hahaha :) 5 years later you are still good looking haha good job all the way from Australia :)

[@CindyGrumpyBear89]

It sucks that the artist has to apologize to these NON-FANS. I'm a girl and I'm not offended by this art. It is a well drawn and color drawing. The artist use of the cool tone colors and isolating the two characters by making them the focal point (with nothing in the background, just black) convey the danger that Batgirl. Being rape by the Joker never came to mind!