Fender '65 Reissue Deluxe Reverb at Bedroom Levels

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[@PsionicAudio]

Two things: It may not be apparent because I raised the mic pre level, but the amp was very quiet in the room. I should have done a “this is what you hear and this is what you can do with what the mic hears.” And I thought the lav mic would pick up the acoustic more. With the channel’s focus on amps and electronic gizmos I don’t know if I’ve ever recorded the acoustics in any of these videos. But I can and get great results. But the lav mic here wasn’t.

[@DDE_ADDICT]

by 0:12 Ask Zack opening tune

[@sungminpark1819]

Was just going to ask. Thank you for being so thorough and generous with all your info. Still think it's crazy how you have so much quality content on this channel

[@markntexas8265]

I used an app to measure db in my apartment and the exhaust fan for the range is louder than I like to play at. I don’t know how accurate the db readings are I suspect close enough for this use case. I am definitely leaning towards an ox box or two notes then get the amps I want.

[@AskZac]

Thanks so much for the mention, and playing the theme. Honored! Great advice too.

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

Hey Zac !

[@robertlowery5586]

Great point about the acoustic guitars. They're ideal for late night. I have learned SO MUCH watching this channel...

[@fiddlix]

Love Zac’s channel. You did a great job playing his intro theme. Great sounding amp thanks to your expertise.

[@rnhtube]

I love your channel, man. It's not often I run across someone who has a lot of the same common sense viewpoints on things. I had a DRRI for years and used it in my room all the time. Now I have a vibro champ which is great for what it does and has worked in quieter bands where even the deluxe was too much.

[@gingercat777]

I have a Mojo kit Deluxe Reverb permanently in my mancave bedroom, with a OD pedal it's perfect.

[@benallmark9671]

What’s a mojo kit ? Newbie here

[@jeffcampeau9491]

What’s a man cave bedroom?

[@gingercat777]

@@jeffcampeau9491 A man cave with a bed 😉

[@drewsollars2239]

Ha, I know that tune... thought I clicked on the wrong video for a sec.

[@weschilton]

Haha, love how you played Zac's channel theme! Made me laugh.😄

[@thesongwritersjourney]

The "Ask Zac" theme is awesome!!!

[@braddietzmusic2429]

I like your approach of not having a separate practice amp, and just turning a relatively low watt tube amp down. Of course you might not hear it in all its beautiful sonic detail, complex harmonics and bloom… but again practice and home playing. Also, the concept of playing an electric guitar without the aid of an amp is important. I think playing that way can help you become a better player, where you can’t rely on the amp or pedals to aid your playing or help bridge your shortfalls technically. Also if you can work on making great sounds acoustically with an electric guitar, and pulling tone and sustain out of the instrument, that is going to make your technique and tone better when you plug in. And then there’s the acoustic guitar versus the unamplified electric guitar. I tend to play differently on one or the other. A plus and a minus, as each instrument inspires you or pushed you to do different things. Great video.

[@benallmark9671]

Great points

[@dheevesh16]

My favourite way to practice is with a dry clean tone, with treble turned up. That way, any squeak noise is amplified and I know to avoid them.

[@cpfs936]

Part of my pre-retirement/stimulus check splurge was a Rivera Stage IV and a Fryette Power Station. Now I've got a Deluxe on steroids that I can use at any volume.

[@ronsheehan]

I had to check whose video I was watching! Great job on the Ask Zac opening theme

[@MichaelSmith-rn1qw]

I changed the speaker in my 1977 Deluxe Reverb from the Jensen C12Q 35 Watt that was in it (not original) to a Fender (Eminence) Gt12-8 100 watt speaker. This makes the amp considerably heavier to carry, but gives it a lot more clean headroom. Plus it looks better from the rear seeing that Fender Special Design label on the speaker. The Jensen now resides in a Carvin Vintage 16 amp.

[@kenwilson5453]

I had a neighbour in an apartment building in the '70s who complained my D35 Martin was too loud and I was a floor below him and one unit over. I suspect if I had invented a reverse amp to suck the sound back out of the room, he'd still have complained.

[@godfreydaniel6278]

I am fortunate to have two blackface Princetons - a Reverb and an Amp - I bought years ago for next to nothing. I play them in stereo, and combined they are more than enough to drive me out of the house. Either one alone is plenty loud and well into it's sweet spot...

[@AndyK.23]

I agree! I use 50 watt Marshalls at home in my basement. I have an attenuator, and lower the master, but get decent tones where I don't need a low watt practice amp.

[@riverstone5994]

Thank you for this. Really good point of view

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

Ha love the Ask Zac tribute!

[@WMSFLL]

I tamed my DR to bedroom levels by using an Eminence Maverick speaker set to full attenuation, and then using a Weber mini mass to dial the volume down a bit more as needed - usually just needs a light attenuation setting of around '8' on the dial.

[@boonem6936]

Alright, I'm convinced, I'm upgrading from my AC10. Looking at a used dsl40c, but also interested in the dsl20c/r for getting more tube crunch at lower volumes. Do you have any opinion on the build quality of the Marshall dsl20 watt combos? Thanks for another helpful and informative video, as always

[@kevindean1327]

The blackstar fly is what I use around the apartment. It's battery operated has good clean and distorted tones and delay/reverb. It's freaking awesome. I have other amps Deluxe Reverb/ Rivera Venus 3/ Fender super champ xd among others but the little blackstar gets used almost exclusively at home.

[@benallmark9671]

What do they costs , do they make them anymore and if not are they hard to find ?

[@robertbarnes9745]

More than ample panache on Mr. Child's walk on music. Well done!

[@richclayton5785]

Love Zak’s channel too.

[@jcool0122]

My "bedroom" amp is a 5f2-a princeton clone. 5 watts (optimistically,) but when you dime the volume you get awesome breakup without risk of the neighbors calling the cops.

[@PsionicAudio]

I love old tweed Champs, but it’s such a specialized use kind of amp. Good third amp, not a great primary amp.

[@Red.be89]

If I dimed a Princeton my neighbours would not be happy! I run at 1/2 watt and that's more than enough for the middle of the night playing!

[@voxfender90]

Love your videos and Ask Zac rules!!!

[@r.weaver3769]

My old Silverface was at stage volume at 2, no bedroom volume, it was off then that and more gain beyond that. I used a tube screamer if I wanted lower volume. Had when I had a real job, so I depended on others to fix my stuff, no could fix that so I sold it, I wish I still had as with what I know now could have been a great amp. My brother lives in Memphis and I know you!!!

[@jeffsquires6620]

I can hear Zac laughing, I a subscriber to both your channels.

[@imannonymous7707]

You played zacs theme really well , i respect humility in a person. Ask Zac is another great channel. But so is this 1

[@diangara3298]

Great rendition of the intro tune !! Love both of your work. I have a black and brown Princeton, a deluxe and a champ. I live in a small apartment and all are totally suitable. I mainly play clean anyway so don't need the breakup at home. But it's nice to know that if I want to I can just turn them up and a whole new amp will bloom.

[@Kevin-the-Just]

In this house, there's no such thing as 'quiet enough' for playing around a sleeping wife. The only answer here is headphones. It's the price I pay for marrying a princess. Princess over Princeton every time.😄

[@benallmark9671]

Lol , too funny

[@Red.be89]

I disagree on low wattage amps not being a good investment. I would agree if we were limited to 1 amp but even then I'd say a low wattage amp is better value. I traded my ÷13 ftr37 for a carr mercury, its absolutely the best decision I made. If I play out twice a week then the big amp is only getting a few hours use each week. My mercury gets an hour a day at least, its my most used amp. Its brought enjoyment back to playing at living room volumes, not to mention it records great and still works for song writing sessions and quiet rehearsals. I have a few 'big' amps of ac30, jtm45 type volume and because I have a selection they end up being seldom used. Investing into a single really good practice amp for home use I think is the best way to spend your money on amps, its what you'll spend the most time with and anything that makes you want to practice more has got to be worth it.

[@PsionicAudio]

I’m not sure we’re disagreeing here - the Mercury is a 16W amp. I meant 1W and even 5W tube amps can be very limiting.

[@Red.be89]

@@PsionicAudio ah, I have the original version, its 8w which I run in 1/2w mode

[@PsionicAudio]

Then it falls into my “really nice” category with old Champs. I was mostly just letting people know they don’t have to have a sub-$500 1W amp for home use. Most of them are crappy investments.

[@Red.be89]

@@PsionicAudio thats fair. I just consider it a mistake i made when younger, spent my money on a nice gigging amp that I hardly got to use and using it barely on for practicing at home

[@michaelinglis567]

Ive been saying this for years. More often then not these high wattage amps sound excellent at lower volumes. Its only a few early circuits that truly needed to be turned up a good bit. Pretty much all modern amps with good master volumes are gonna sound great at low levels. And higher wattage gets you more clean headroom which is absolutely nessesary if you want to be heard playing clean with a drummer. I think its very coear anyone who thinks you need low wattage amps to sound great at bedroom levels just doesnt understand why people started saying that to begin with and likely has never actually heard a high watt amp at bedroom levels.

[@scottsodyssey2485]

Good commentary , trying to figure out my next amp. The Princeton is my first choice.

[@valleywoodstudio7345]

Ever look into the Excelsior things? I have one - and whilst it runs out of headroom very quickly on small gigs and has quite a junkyfunky sound, it is actually a great little amp for quiet, clean playing at home. Old Boss DM-2, bit of tremolo and I'm pretty happy for late night shmooze...

[@valleywoodstudio7345]

...and I play my electrics acoustically all the time. Its very good for your touch.

[@johnnyt599]

I've got the surf green version . The colored amps have an upgraded speaker and are loud . It will hold it's own with just about anything . My pedal board pumps it up a good bit and I don't do a a lot of clean stuff , southern rock and country mostly . I've enjoyed the piss out of it . I got it because I was looking for something small and light . It's small but not really light . Guess I'm get'n old . 👍

[@valleywoodstudio7345]

@@johnnyt599 loaded with the eminence I presume? It makes a cool studio amp and yes it is relatively heavy but I hear heavier with the speaker upgrade - and that handle is not the most comfortable! Incidentally, the stock speaker has quite a defined resonant tone when you tap it - and you can hear that in its tone all the time.

[@johnnyt599]

@@valleywoodstudio7345 Yes sir , eminence legend . Very efficient speaker . 15 inches of paper flapping , it don't get no better than that . Have you done the mod on the bright/dark switch ?

[@PsionicAudio]

I’m afraid I’m not a fan of the Excelsior. Gimmicky, cheap fragile construction, could have been a funky looking 5E3 but they messed up the circuit. Choice of way too dark or way too bright. It’s fixable, but coulda shoulda been better out of the gate.

[@sconni666]

Recently got a Supro Black Magick tremolo. Sounds great at 2 at home, and awesome at 8 playing live. Great video.

[@tfunk1829]

Flipped me out when I hit play and heard Zac's theme. I thought I was on the wrong video.

[@PsionicAudio]

Well, the Strat should have been a big tell…

[@DelScully]

my bedroom amp is an orange or15 but I am most definitely getting a good audio interface and amplitude for playing at night now. Much easier than using a tube amp.

[@brandonbutler8808]

Great informative video, thank you

[@matthewf1979]

This is about the only time you'll see me advocate for someone buying a laminate acoustic guitar - They hold up better than any solid back/sides/top acoustic in dry climates. Now, back to searching for my dream D-28.

[@PsionicAudio]

I’ve got an Eastman HD-28 copy. I don’t remember their model number. Around $1100. Better than most Martins I’ve played. I mean, dream territory is Bourgeois or Collings. But this Eastman is really good.

[@matthewf1979]

@@PsionicAudio I’ll have to take a look. Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve tossed around the idea of a Stew Mac D style kits, but that’s a lot of money for something I could easily screw up. People seem to like Eastman guitars, so I’ll have to take a look.

[@justthetrailmtb]

I run mine at 2 and it sounds incredible.

[@markalbrecht7459]

You're killing me Smalls,,,

[@mastermachetier5594]

I have a 68 Princeton custom reissue and I am thinking of going to the deluxe black panel version. Curious how you feel between the two

[@J_Un1t]

For newer/learning players playing an electric acoustically doesn’t pick up a lot of small mistakes that you’ll notice when you plug in.

[@palidiciovermingagurainia1760]

Zac is proud

[@Stoffe958]

@psionicaudio There is a alot of opinions online about the bright cap and many thinks it should be cut out. What is your opinion on this?

[@andrewhodgson8895]

Is it me or, is your high E string really close to the edge of the fingerboard?

[@PsionicAudio]

Both are. I had my guitar guru friend do the frets right up to the edges (while still being nicely rounded over) so there was as much playable fret as possible, allowing a slightly wider string spacing than normal. I have big hands and I like the wider spacing. And I do a lot of bass notes with my thumb wrapped over the top. But the high E doesn’t pull off the side of the board.

[@drtm1718]

Lol point taken on the acoustic. Thanks for the suggestions! I'll have to save up for a deluxe reverb and a nice acoustic for when I need to save on electricity or stfu because people are sleeping.

[@mikekline-fc8ox]

do you think a Fender '65 Reissue Deluxe Reverb will sound good with a vintage 30 with the bright cap cut out?

[@PsionicAudio]

Absolutely

[@jameskaihatu6209]

On the other hand - does the Deluxe Reverb have enough oomph to play over a loud drummer?

[@marcodado7473]

yes

[@PsionicAudio]

By itself not always. Run it into an external 2x12 as well as the combo speaker and you’re as loud as a 50W amp.

[@leadfoot64]

@@PsionicAudio If I did use an external 2x12 cab along with the built in speaker on my drri what would be the best ohm rating for the 2x12, 8 ohm? Thanks👍

[@alanjacob8542]

Between 1-2 on volume mine works nice till 15min in and then I get radio frequency that gets louder and louder.😢

[@waynead754]

That's why I like my Tone Master Deluxe- attenuate it to .5 watts (emulated) and play at 4-5 on the volume and it's not overwhelming. Maybe still not "bedroom" level but much lower.

[@richardlynch5632]

BRAVO...!😎👍

[@z4570]

Makes perfect sense to me anyway! I've got a Fender champ and a Deluxe reverb. But as Keith Richards and you say: pick up that acoustic guitar and play.!!!

[@andrus108]

...or you can get a fairly inexpensive load box like Two Notes Captor, and make ANY amp, including 100W Plexis and Twins cranked, a headphone amp; you'd just need a cheapo mixer with one XLR and headphone out, or splurge on X version with built-in cab sim and headphone option.

[@goodun2974]

Running a 100 W amplifier through an attenuator is gonna be rough on the quartet of tubes (and on the transformers as well). Considering the cost of replacement tubes these days and the stress you're putting the amp through, you'd be better off just buying a smaller amp for practice than buying all that auxiliary equipment just you can beat up on and "tame" your big expensive amp down to bedroom-level SPL's.

[@DDE_ADDICT]

Would you make a 25 watt vibro champ reverb. That would be the best amp for me.

[@goodun2974]

I've never seen a soundhole-mounted pickup?/preamp?/mic? quite like that one on your acoustic; hard to read it on my phone but it looks like it's an LR Baggs? Folks might appreciate it if you share details. And if there's some kind of volume/tone adjustment built-in, that would seem to be a strange place to put it.....

[@PsionicAudio]

Bags Dual Source.

[@goodun2974]

@@PsionicAudio , I'll have to look it up, but I'm guessing from the model name that it has both an internal microphone and some kind of piezo or other pickup.

[@jackbyrd4921]

One thought occurs just shut up and play. Great tone is important that's for certain but if you don't play none of the rest matters. Use the tools needed for the job at hand.. Just my two cents. Keep those videos coming.

[@jimbeaux4988]

Zac would be flattered!

[@DrRussPhd]

LOL . .Ask Zac intro . . too funny

[@jimdevries9479]

I use a custom deluxe reverb and just put a master volume on it usin Rob Robbinette' s train wreck idea. Just add ab 808 and go.

[@benallmark9671]

Newbie here , what’s an 808 ? Is that the tube screamer you’re referring to ?

[@michaelsternberg6180]

Not a bad version of Zak’s bit..

[@kevindean1327]

Good cover of Ask Zac you just need to throw that ending chord in.

[@jwiegand1022]

Lol the ask Zac 🤣

[@StandbyCymbalist]

well hello there friends

[@markellis6668]

Hi what guitar are you playing

[@PsionicAudio]

My Eric Johnson strat with Kinman Traditional Mk IIs and a Callaham bridge.

[@scottcarpenter701]

unplugged? sounds like crazy talk.

[@williambock1821]

Yeah but can’t play like Randy Rhodes with a 20 watt amp at 8 o’clock on the volume! Kidding. I can play like Randy in my SLEEP! That Satellite Amps “Gammatron” 3 watt amp head is pretty slick.

[@JoshuaC923]

Hahaha acoustic guitars are the best bedroom guitars, a semi hollowbody sounds good too

[@stratofig]

You totally don’t understand what many players want. Many players want to play with overdrive or distortion at bedroom volumes. Not clean! That’s easy.

[@aidantalbot9495]

: ) LOL

[@dumbiped]

The trouble with these 'reissue amps' that nobody including you is that they have pcbs in them. The controls are soldered straight onto the pcb. They will fail & probably during a gig. These amps are not cheap. Shame on Fender.

[@JeffBostick222]

Word has it, Keith Richards doesn't keep anything in his house except an acoustic guitar. Imo, songs built from an acoustic tend to hit better.

[@grippo1927]

If all of you ever do is play in the bedroom, then why even have an amp in the first place? Plug into GarageBand or other modeler. But hey, kudos to those who have successfully marketed $1000 half-watt amps to bedroom “musicians.”

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

hahaha