Ferguson FE35 "The Hidden Water Tubes"

The Ferguson FE35 tractor with the Standard Motor Company 23C diesel engines has a couple of tubes many dont know about or know to look for when there is a hard-to-find coolant leak. I cover where they are and how I repair them.
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[@peterhanson4709]

I had no idea those tubes were in there but I have seen 2 heads leak coolant past the stud and nut. My fix was the same as used on motorcycle motors where the coolant flows past the stud, more easily seen on a water cooled 2 stroke, a copper washer and a capped nut will hold back the coolant. To my own head I added glow plugs, the best thing ever.

[@BundyBearsShed]

I have a cold start head for my next project so it will be interesting to see how that goes.

[@tonys8023]

Another great video Lance. Thanks for sharing you vast wealth on knowledge

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Tony.

[@peterjubb5395]

Excellent video Lance. Great that you are prepared to share your vast knowledge with the rest Tractor tragics.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks 👍

[@billweir6770]

Another brilliant share Lance --wish I'd known that about 5 years ago when I rebuilt a 23C... Still, we live and learn

[@BundyBearsShed]

I never stop learning thats for sure.

[@michaelmitchell1401]

Another great video thanks lance

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@charleshart6992]

Excellent video Lance - great fix!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@scottleininger2404]

So awesome Lance.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thankyou.

[@hilux0872]

Thanks Lance, great information.

[@BundyBearsShed]

My pleasure!

[@paulbuxton5583]

Another 1st class tutorial & fix, defo look at my 23c head when the time comes. As I’ve mentioned before you have a great YT channel Lance. Paul.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Paul,

[@manfromthemist1958]

another brilliant vid Lance, your thought's of compression on the tubes is right, they would deform if they were ali or brass, cheers

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yeah thats my way of thinking for sure.

[@kt3537]

Great video

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thankyou.

[@buzzbee6488]

Looking good sir

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thank you kindly

[@charlesvanderwolf5751]

Thanks Lance. Great information. Regards Charles @ Nerimbera

[@BundyBearsShed]

My pleasure!

[@michaelcandy6283]

Brilliant

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thankyou.

[@kevinpfaff2301]

man, this is great information. I have a to20 that has disappearing antifreeze. Thanks!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad it helped. I dont know if the TO is the same but worth a look.

[@tomscott4723]

Oh man, you beat me by 9 minutes to be first! haha .GREAT video Lance the more I hang out with you the smarter I get, I want to be like you when I grow up! Its these little secrets that make me look smart to the other guys haha. Thanks!

[@BundyBearsShed]

LOL I never stop learning so keep an open mind and soak up whatever you can learn.

[@flhusa1]

that reminds me of getting the shower mixing cartridge out after its been in there for years and years. had to to do the same setup. when i replaced with new one i used synthetic grease and anti seize so the next guy can just pull it out with just fingers. somebody was kind enough to make a video and glad they did i fought that thing for over a hour before i learned the trick .

[@BundyBearsShed]

Tricks to every trade

[@ewancox4895]

Great video as always. It may not apply to my TEA20, but it's still interesting to know

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes I never knew for years.

[@tombuffumjr1509]

Thank you I bought a pair of te 35 with a c23 and I live in Conrad Montana do not know if there are any in this part of the world nice to know this so I can fix these before I put it back together thank you

[@BundyBearsShed]

Well worth doing

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hello Lance, Interesting video... My concerns with the change of material from mild steel to stainless steel was thermal expansion... I've just done some googling and I think it should be okay, although I am far from an expert. Take care. Paul,,

[@BundyBearsShed]

Im thinking the thin wall section might allow for that though, there is no real great mass of steel.

[@BobOBob]

That seems a pretty good examination of the issue. The tube being recessed into the head surface suggests to me that the upper end of the tube was meant to be forever fixed, and the lower end was meant to be able to slip slightly if the head ever compresses that much across the water passage. This leads me to suggest that the retaining compound should be applied ONLY to the upper end, such as by using a swab and flashlight to put it up in there before the tube. If the stud holes into the block are blind holes, that would support my theorizing that the upper seal of the tube is far more important than the lower seal. Even if coolant could get around the lower end of the tube, it could only get on the threads, the head gasket and a blind stud hole would give coolant nowhere to go except all the way back UP the threads to find any exit to leak into. I would also suggest sealing the stud threads under the tension nut.

[@BundyBearsShed]

We seal the studs always but there is no sign whatsoever of the tube movement.

[@matthewsimkins]

Thanks for the info Lance. I'm working on a very tired old FE35 with the 23C engine. No doubt be doing this one day! Do you have any heads lying around that have had their pre-combustion chambers drilled out? Seems to be a popular thing to do in the UK and colder countries, maybe not so much in Aus. It would be good to see one before I ruin mine.

[@BundyBearsShed]

No, sorry, I have a riend that did one but I never have.

[@garethdavies3220]

Hi Lance, I liked your method of removing the sleeves by tapping a thread into them , it reminded me of the similar method used on British Leyland 4/98 engines to remove the copper injector sleeves . P.s do you see many Nuffield and Leyland tractors in Queensland. All the best again from Wales.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not a lot over here any more, they were never a real big seller over this way.

[@jefftheaussie2225]

Gareth, The Agricultural Boarding school I went to in the early ‘70s had two Nuffield 460s and a new 465. The 460s were good and tough although a bit dated even then, the 465 was a much more modern machine and I would have been happy to own one of those. I never saw another 465 anywhere though. Chamberlain, International, Ford and Massey Fergusson had it all sewn up here. I have listed them in order, Massey being the softest. Jeff

[@tridbant]

I acquired one with a 23c motor, the best thing I did was get rid of it and acquire one with a Perkins engine.

[@BundyBearsShed]

lol you are not alone there I wouldnt think.

[@Drottninggatan2017]

Can you inspect the pipes through the hole in the front of the head? Or are they completely hidden?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think you would see the front one, Im not sure I will have a look.

[@Peter-Southern-Victoria-Aust]

Does the Petrol engine in the 35 have these tubes too?

[@BundyBearsShed]

No they dont

[@munswamymunswam153]

Could you please show us how to adjust Tyre rod ends my 65 has wheels turned half but suddenly it turns another more to the same side

[@BundyBearsShed]

When I fit my front end I will cover that, it is all in parts at the moment.

[@chriswalker1058]

I’m looking for four good combustion chambers can you help. I’m totally beat

[@BundyBearsShed]

Cant help either Im sorry.

[@bjorn-yl9pr]

Hello, I also have a 1957 Massey Ferguson with a 23c engine. Can you help me? I have a problem with the oil pressure. When the engine is cold I have 4-5 bar at idle but when the engine is warm I no longer have any oil pressure. Greetings björn

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think you have work crankshaft bearings, and possibly a worn oil pump. As an interim fix you could go to mono 50 engine oil but it will still drop away.

[@bjorn-yl9pr]

@@BundyBearsShed Hello, the oil pump is new

[@bjorn-yl9pr]

Hello, the crankshaft and bearing shells are all new

[@BundyBearsShed]

I would check the filter relief etc then.

[@flhusa1]

only thing stainless and mild steel don't like to play together nicely. it's a dissimilar galling metal thing .

[@BundyBearsShed]

Cast iron head I think but it will not need to be removed ever again I dont think.

[@flhusa1]

@@BundyBearsShed one of my uncles taught me to fix things so I wouldn't have to fix it again the rest of my life . He said takes more time and brainpower but it's fixed for life

[@stevenfenton8137]

Harry ferguson didn't even know they were there

[@BundyBearsShed]

lol, he may have

[@flhusa1]

lots of bolts or nuts always seem to fight me to the bitter end .

[@BundyBearsShed]

They do at times thats for sure.

[@stevenfenton8137]

Lance could make and sell them and call them Bundy plugs

[@BundyBearsShed]

Probably could but there would be no money in it at the rate I work, lol.

[@chattonlad9382]

A

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks.

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

Great video Lance. I did look up Canadian Redneck Dave’s channel. He’s located not far from me.

[@BundyBearsShed]

How good is that! He seems to know what hes doing.