Ferrari 812 versus F12 TDF - which is BEST?

Ferrari 812 versus F12 TDF - which is BEST?
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It doesn’t get bigger than this - it’s the 812 Superfast versus the F12 TDF! Two automotive titans, from the same Italian stable, finally do battle. Both V12s. Both Ferraris. Both possessing greater than 760bhp. This is it folks, the ultimate V12 front-engined showdown!
Is the 812 just a tame TDF? Which one offers the best driving experience? The greatest thrills? The most scintillating engine note? Ultimately, which is best and why?
All these questions and more will be answered in this week’s episode.
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[@tominotopia]

The more serius battle is the one between "eight one two" and "eight twelve". I much prefer the second option myself :D

[@projectr2451]

You know what’s weird? I prefer the second one too. However, when it comes to the 458 and 488, I prefer saying “four five eight” and “four eight eight” rather than “four fifty eight” and “four eighty eight”. I think it’s because F12 is pronounced how it is spelt. If people and myself called the F12 “the F one two” then I think I probably would’ve called the 812 “the eight one two” as well. Hopefully this comment isn’t too confusing

[@iogas7317]

It's not "eight one two" or "eight twelve" it's "ottocento dodici" because it's italian

[@tominotopia]

@@iogas7317 r/iamverysmart

[@claytonhenry5827]

j n21t4 Agreed. Yet, I love the Ferrari Eff three fifty-five. Go figure.

[@btjh1855]

@@tominotopia r/ihavereddit

[@rashieddjamin1113]

This was A FANTASTIC video. I've watched A LOT of these"comparison" videos, but this was the first time, ever, that I was so impressed that I just HAD to leave a comment. My very, very, first comment on one of these videos. I've seen the TDF at my local"Cars & Coffee", never seen the other car, in the flesh. Never sat in either one of them, obviously, and probably never will. But, thanks to you guys I feel like I have a very good idea of what it's like to drive/experience these amazing, unbelievable, vehicles. In between the jokes and casual banter, you (BOTH of you) still manage to somehow convey to the audience what's it's like to drive them, AND what it's like to be a passenger. Obviously you've done other comparison videos, and those have been great as well. But this one was really special. Well done!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much, Rashied

[@RootsandTendrils]

The TDF is a very handsome design, but, no I would not own one, shattered nerves and constant fear, a car made for roads that don't commonly exist. The 812, though less beautiful is the smarter more satisfying choice.

[@mattylf1]

I’d take the TDF with the 812 interior. Two amazing cars either way.

[@campkira]

That TDF cost hims 900,000 pound..

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@campkira Good. It's a fantastic car and brand new it was a similar price to a fully specced 812SF.

[@jf6853]

Amazing, amazing, video. Cheers chaps! Keep up the good work!

[@PinderProductions]

Good video. I think both the F12 and 812 are great cars!

[@petedavis8701]

Fantastic cars, great video again, well done

[@frefnurk1538]

Thank you guys, i look forward to your videos all the time

[@joelward8388]

Excellent video Guys. A proper real word review and that they have the same size boot makes it impossible to decide my favourite!

[@m2kev110]

Just love your considered and measured responses to evaluating all cars, all delivered with the right degree of humor ! Thanks Guys! 👍😀

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Kev A always good to know you’re watching

[@colonelcol8595]

Good vid guys! TDF -weekend car vs 812 - touring GT car - Happy Days all round👍

[@davidevans6052]

Absolutely love you guys . Really been looking forward to this comparison

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, David

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Bravo guys, a unique perspective and brilliant to see, a great watch 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Roger

[@nolanohana]

Great video, wonderful review, appreciate the technical aspects of both cars!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@darkchild130]

Everything about the TDF seems angry. I love it.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Indeed

[@cavaleer]

Best comparison and maybe the only comparison between these two masterpieces on utube. Great jobs guys.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Now watch @mrjww do the same video and get 400k views! ☹️

[@briancrozier9017]

What a great video . Really informative. Well done chaps.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Brian

[@alanwayte1688]

Excellent as always...informative great production values

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Alan

[@marklawrence9416]

Another very enjoyable video. Thanks for sharing. 😀😀😀

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you liked it, Mark

[@MB-zt9eo]

Great Video! Bravi👍👍

[@Justin225]

TDF for me if I have to choose. Saw this TDF of yours in person a couple of years ago at Beaulieu car show, looks amazing in the flesh, esp in yellow. 👌👍

[@mkprivate7523]

great video guys!!!! Personally, I cannot wait for the "TDF" version of the 812SF....that thing is going to rock our world :)

[@UKRR]

Another classic. Love the way you can make it seem quite ‘normal’ that you can compare your TDF with the latest and greatest Ferrari GT car.......few could do this in such a casual and engaging way. Love it !

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, UKRR

[@1seipai]

Another fantastic, informative, and no nonsense vid. Keep them coming boys! Good there's no front numberplate on the TDF for when you accelerate up to the Truvelo! 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Nice one, glad you liked this one

[@ferrellmontgomery4703]

When is the wrap and exhaust upgrades video dropping? Lol... great content again, gentlemen !!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@acskls]

I'm sure I speak for the nation by saying this is an epic battle ! Great video guys . Your best yet. I love the way you review these cars in a down to earth way. Brilliant. Keep up the good work . What ever next ?????

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much, your comments are much appreciated.

[@adamc8512]

Great video as always!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Adam

[@Skumbria-vv5jd]

Amazing Video Guys!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers

[@saegaema]

The TDF is gorgeous, the engine note, glorious, your editing, superb, and I know that doesn't come without a ton of work. What a fun vicarious couple of rides I had in the 812 and the TDF. Sheesh!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Marc - glad you enjoyed it

[@MyRetroWatches]

Oh man where to I start? Great video but mic both of you up in the car as Jason as passenger especially , was hard to hear over the road & engine noise. It’s hard to compare these but I’d take either if I ever had the opportunity. TDF is iconic and always will be but like you say as a starting point the 812 is way ahead of anything else with awesome styling. I actually prefer the back end of the 812. Shame it does not scream out of those pipes compared to the tdf. I would just relish the opportunity to see either of these cars close up yet alone be in one. Loving the weekly videos. TGI - TFI!!! ( I will let you use that one 😉😂) Thanks for taking the time to produce these for us all to enjoy.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, dude. Some great suggestions there. I do have a spare mic for Jason, actually.

[@jordank3141]

Thanks for another great video guys. My personal impression of the two is pretty much similar to yours. I felt the TDF required 110% of my concentration 110% of the time, demanding total respect at all times, whereas the 812 just felt safe but ballistically quick and just perfect at the same time. Only ever driven a TDF once tho. Id still rather have a TDF.

[@oliverrhoden2748]

Great video!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Oliver

[@sarcodiauk2921]

Brilliant video guys and amazing to directly compare the two cars. I personally would prefer the Tdf with its nervy handling and rawness of its driving experience.

[@Watson1973]

Great video Love to see you guys compare 812 & the new Aston Martin DBS superleggera

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes, so would we :)

[@aftastosk6016]

You really give us a good sense of how is to drive the best GT currently available for sale so we can understand of how far the level of performance and handling has moved on. This is great.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@aravissmith4986]

The TDF wins the best license plate award as well. Love it! Keep them coming guys!

[@richjohn9356]

Thank you my two Favourite V12 Ferrari GT's , Love them, Best value GT's in history

[@Alex-jb2vb]

Great video

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Alex

[@benjaminhoward6752]

Brilliant video guys.. I think I much prefer the 812 all round but that tdf wow, your two lucky chaps.. maybe one day we can get a enzo and la Ferrari comparison hahaha 👍🏻

[@TallDrink911]

I could not possibly have hit the "like" button hard enough on this video. And I'm not even a big Ferrari fanboy but this video may have changed it for me.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Excellent news

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

Watched this again, a great vid deserves a big view count

[@randombloke10]

No smashed windows this time 👌🏻 what an awesome garage to be able to produce content with, I prefer the 812 just for being a tad more ‘subtle’ and modern

[@TACADO1]

Was in a dealer last week walked by two 812 4 cars apart and even noticed them , they were blue n black just blended in for me tdf yellow all the way , f12 has more presence than 812 in dull colours very colour sensitive, always good honest content guys pleasure to watch 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, my friend

[@michaelrobinson5592]

Very good video 👍👍👍👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Michael

[@gokeyinspections8552]

very cool! Love the TDF the most, but I still love your f-40 more!

[@michaelroberts4923]

"gently nusseling balls vs slamming them in a door"! Incredible

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Schoolboy/ Bottom humour 😀

[@gabemundo]

TDF F12 is much more appealing to me than the Superfast. Love the carbon bits combined with the yellow paint!

[@targaflorio3239]

12:47-12:52 All you need to know about this comparison right there. lol Fantastic review. Really enjoyed that. Let's be honest. Either of these Ferrari's would be an absolute dream in anyone's garage. But the F12 TDF. Wow. One for the ages.

[@richardjones2620]

Excellent video, as usual. Another analogy for this test could be a strong, tart, aggressive Stilton and a mature, smooth but bitey Red Leicester. Or maybe a Scampi Fry versus a Cheese Moment.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Genius

[@duncanwing6613]

Brilliant!

[@user-yr9hp5sv9t]

TDF sounds so much better,nice video guys ✔️

[@richardcarter1000]

Wonderful chaps, thanks. Both amazing cars. Id pick the F12 for excitement. Like playing buckaroo with a bunny girl.

[@Tracertme]

what a great review, a real first!! on the internet I think, or magazine for that matter, so well done, Jason I go with you, but we are splitting hairs here, I think it would be impossible to not own either and totally enjoy them differently. My personal dream car is still very much the F12... doubt I will get round to it, because unless you spec these cars heavily in Carbon Fibre I find them all a little cheap looking and feeling in materials with the silver grey Fiat plastics...inside, poor electrics and hit and miss paint finish... everything else I love... general looks, engine, driving...

[@christophercode3316]

And a nice rolly Batman!!!! Good stuff.....u guys should start doing wristwatch checks as well....

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Check out the video description for watch details

[@christophercode3316]

TheCarGuys.TV great stuff.....videos are superb fun and detailed.....love your work

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Chris

[@ubonrat8653]

Good job guys two great cars either way

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@Dudemania3000]

Great vid as usual thanks guys! very interesting conclusions. Seems the 812 is perhaps more usable but feels less special than the TDF as the 812 is not trying to kill you like the TDF...lol. Personally going back to an older vid of yours I feel that the TDF is going to age or become redundant very quickly especially when they produce a 812 TDF and hence lose its special status and possible value. I would suggest as I have before that perhaps you sell the TDF and go for your dream of a 288 GTO for the garage as that is an iconic car and will never be replace whereas I feel the TDF will become redundant in as the 812 is pretty much the same car and now more powerful and controllable . Sorry guys I just love the 288 GTO and in my opinion the best looking Ferrari ever and if I ever had the means to own one then I would need to scratch that itch at least once whilst I'm alive. On a financial scale I believe TDF's might suffer a fall soon whereas the 288 GTO will probably never lose its value.

[@brentm.8140]

F12 TDF looks better and sounds better.

[@markcady6882]

The sheer scale of “scared” on both your faces when in the TDF makes this one of your best videos yet, literally wetting myself also with “balls” analogy, hilarious. Keep em coming chaps, brilliant.....

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Mark - we'll keep 'em coming

[@Mattje8]

1:38 - check out that panel misalignment on the 812 ! I'm sure the excuse is "handmade" (I still want one...) (EDIT - its appears to be a "feature" as other pics online show the same misalignment)

[@giuseppecumbo5123]

Fantastico guys......absolutely fantastico

[@TheCarGuysTV]

bellisimo!

[@leeandrews1072]

I would take either, but boy that TDF wild! Love the signatures on the engine cover, and the rarity of the TDF Great job gents!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Lee

[@S_K_J]

Front end of f12 & rear end of 812 😍🔥

[@craigt5906]

If you gave me a blank check I would return with an 812 with a Capristo Exhaust installed and call it a day

[@pw191164]

I bet Damian has his insurance company on speed dial just in case the tdf ploughs into the nearest rhubarb field..brilliant vlog as usual chaps.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Actually, my insurance broker is driving the camera car :)

[@henryhol8538]

You must have read our minds after watching the last Ferrari 812 video! We were all wondering, I wonder what would happen if.....

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad to be of service

[@jf6853]

Love the analogy re the Euro Fighter. Guys flying the computers; computers flying the plane :)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Justin. We do try to keep the content fresh

[@yardelli]

Double-awesome - whichever one you don't want ...........I'll have! 812 or DBS though Damian?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

We'll have to test the DBS for longer to find out

[@B0SS330]

TDF has the same power to weight as a Bugatti Veyron ! Good review... probably the last of the naturally aspirated Ferrari V12's

[@ferrari365]

Great video, it's an eight / twelve by the way, 8 for 800 PS/ HP [ not BHP ] and 12 for the cylinders, I get it wrong as well sometimes! You forgot to mention the best change on the steering wheel, the horn position, thank god it changed, I can now use it if I need it! In the F12 by the time I had found the right place on the rim to press it, the problem had gone away.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I suppose you call it a 3-55 and 5-99 too, do you? 😀

[@ferrari365]

I agree with you but that's what Ferrari are calling it !

[@ferrari365]

I with you on that, but this is what Ferrari are calling it !

[@MarcSob22]

TDF is more crazy more special, the 812 is more GT stille , is for long drives

[@AB-80X]

One may think the 812 is a GT because of the engine placement. But fact is that it is a full-on sportscar for all intended purposes.

[@tonystrong2326]

finally someone answers the question

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Tony strong 😀😀😀😀

[@elvindelacrur2160]

I enjoyed watching your videos on the 812 Super Fast and the TDF. Both cars are simply AMAZING. I will take the 812 Super Fast.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Elvin - glad you enjoyed this one. We had a blast making it.

[@garybarnes3746]

You guys should do a comparison with the DBS

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes we should

[@AB-80X]

Interesting comparison. One thing I cannot wrap my head around though, and that is your comments about the steering. I find it is a huge improvement over the F12. It is still fast ike the F12, but it is so better weighted. I do think it is slightly stiffer than the F12, but at the same time,it seems so much better sorted in the chassis, so while it's a bit stiffer than the F12B, it rides a lot better still. A great GT? If you want it to be. A great supercar? Oh yes. Don't forget that the 812 does not sit within the Ferrari GT line, but rather the sportscar line alongside the F8/Pista/488.

[@muhammadessat4789]

Me & my father love the TDF! We would have the TDF over any car any day. Beautiful Machine.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

You have good taste

[@horsepower523]

Absolutely love both cars but if I had to choose one then I would take the 812 Superfast. That is the perfect GT car. Stunning looks, more than enough power, superb handling and fast like a rocket.

[@ruststar]

Like picking between gal gadot and Margot Robbie, simple really, take both 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I wish we’d said that! 😂😂😂👍👍

[@marcvernon-smith1545]

@@TheCarGuysTV Take both...at the same time!

[@bigcuck4361]

@@TheCarGuysTV Probably best you didn't, lol. You'd be torn asunder by internet critics and do-gooders for objectifying woman.

[@pokedon92]

Am I the only one who thinks they are not pretty? However the normal F12 is gorgeous.

[@vika0194]

Olivier Wakefield they are cool not pretty

[@1570CHRIS]

Not a fair compare but highly enjoyable.TDF all the way, it epitomize what a supercar is. Keep up the fantastic content.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

We sure will, Chris. As long as you continue watching, we'll keep making

[@niosanfrancisco]

TDF all the way. Wonderful review gentleman !

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it, Mr GT3

[@Anthonyn2]

Just curious, do you have PPF on any of your vehicles?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes, I would say 6 of them are ppf’d

[@tomogden6213]

00:13 tdf is best it’s that simple

[@andrewross1809]

Happy Friday Fez Fellas!

[@jonathangalloway6796]

Absolutely fantastic!! I can understand that you could be considering selling the TDF especially because you have a 812 arriving soon but as use say theirs absolutely nothing like the TDF!! I personally think that the TDF will be as lusted after as the 250 GTO is today. Are you selling? 🇮🇹 💪 ✌️ 👌 🤜 👊

[@TheCarGuysTV]

If I am, it isn't because the 812 is coming

[@jonathangalloway6796]

@@TheCarGuysTV looking forward to your thoughts for selling if it was ever to happen

[@roadcarsmagazine]

I would say the tdf is the car you might pull out of the garage for that special Sunday drive. Where the 812 is a fabulous GT car. The 812 is the car you want to drive on a long drive or if you want a Touring car.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yep, agree with that

[@mattbindon]

Hi guys. Does anyone know where this video is filmed. I am hiring an M5 Comp pack on Wednesday and would love to give it a go on the roads in the video. Any help gratefully received.

[@keitumetsemabuza9940]

The 812 for me

[@healthiswealth6797]

Id take a TDF blue 812 , and save myself a bucket for other cars .

[@afriKENN]

I think this channel has grown enough to warrant some new and improved cameras, maybe even 4K?

[@afriKENN]

that triple layer yellow deserves to be seen in all its glory

[@TheCarGuysTV]

You might be right

[@jf6853]

…. and In my Opinion; TDF wins hands down! Fantastic car!

[@paulxander7515]

I don't care who wins both cars are soo cool

[@KUROSHURA]

I love the 812, easier to drive than the TDF. Styling evocative of the Daytona. The only thing I don’t like about the 812 is the headlights styling. But I’ve already grafted an easy fix for that.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Sledgehammer ?

[@KUROSHURA]

Lol nah, I’ll show you when I get mine.

[@TIfosiZ]

Compare TDF vs GTO. Pls :)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Steady on :)

[@FEGTTTSDH]

The F12 TDF is a masterpiece of beast, it feels more agile and crazy under low speed

[@petemorbius3936]

nice batman!

[@knockoutko947]

Seiko golden tuna! Good taste

[@youngpark8338]

TDF. But I'll stick with my ISF for a looooooong time :)

[@jakes.5143]

Fūrinkazan I had that for 3 years and got the new c63. Not a comparison.

[@youngpark8338]

@@jakes.5143 Good for you. Enjoy the car.

[@Shifty_Malone]

The TDF just looks cleaner, especially at the rear. Which is surprising considering that it's the special model. The single tail lights are the biggest draw card for the F12 over the 812, if it wasn't for the ugly tail lights I would be really looking forward to the 812 special edition.

[@daveb5211]

'Things are not where you're used to them being'. Er that's just you, we're not all used to driving a TDF!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bryan-fg3ey]

I look forward to Doug nicking your "balls' analogy for his future Doug scores.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

That would be amazing

[@thee90kid]

The Tour De France all day it’s so beautiful and elegant