599 GTO v F12 tdf v 812 Competizione: The greatest front-engined Ferraris head-to-head

[@AyaxRo]

the GTO is just so timeless. What a beauty.

[@MatteoFitness]

hard to say. it's not that old yet.

[@ilmelangolo]

Yes, the 250 and the 288...

[@1973Terminator]

Agree! These 3 Ferrari are amazing, but the GTO has that charm the others don't have, and that makes it more special. Nevertheless, I would be delighted with any of them

[@lucchenzo]

Yes, for me is the most beautiful of three.

[@surgeon9039]

But its so problematic. So many problems with this car compared to F12 and later versions, looks great, drives nice, maintance - nightmare

[@SimonGr8]

I adore these front-mid engined Ferrari’s. The f12 TDF is my dream car

[@clkgtr12]

Mine too why are they so expensive😢

[@spqr6973]

Same for me!

[@jfkayne]

Agree but I can’t justify 4x an F12 😢

[@WillSatchwell]

Great video! Would probably still choose the 599 GTO out of those 3 Idea for next video: Porsche 996.2 GT3 RS vs 997.2 GT3 RS vs 991.2 GT3 RS vs 992.2 GT3 RS

[@paulintile]

Excellent idea!

[@19poundpound94]

I’d take the 997.2 GT3 RS any day, regardless of the 4.0 liter engine.

[@S25117]

@@19poundpound94why?

[@19poundpound94]

@@S25117 1. Steering feel superior to the 991 generation 2. Engine reliability superior to the 996 generation 3. Car size is ideal for a 911 4. Last manual GT3RS 5. A good balance of analog and digital 6. Timeless design

[@brandonchism6960]

@@19poundpound94the 997 is my favorite 911 chassis. And the reasons you’ve listed are exactly what I’ve told people as to why I’d jump at the opportunity to own the 997.2 GT3. But I’d happily take the GTS as well.

[@ineedthatcar7169]

Might be controversial - 599 GTO looks best of these three. There I said it.

[@Durrah1]

I own an F12, dream car is A TDF.

[@latbeast]

They are bonkers, just can’t put many miles on them 😂😂

[@jackschannel5111]

Nice, I have the 599GTO...It is such a great car to drive

[@latbeast]

@@jackschannel5111if you have a dodgy ticker I suggest leaving the tdf alone! Leaves your heart thumping!! That’s not exaggerating either 😅

[@someguy1907]

I own an 812 myself. I personally prefer the looks of the F12 over the 812 but I went with the 812 because of the performance and rear wheel steering

[@latbeast]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHOqnGpnqMx8lZI Novitec one, full inconel pipe

[@TheTerrier]

That 599 with the tall section rear tires, ageing like a fine wine

[@harryokona]

Videos like this are absolutely fantastic. Often reviewing cars in isolation, or just with contemporary rivals doesn't quite give the reader/viewer proper context. Back to back and direct comparisons across generations complete the picture for us. Comparisons like this are timeless, it will still be a great resource in 10/20/30 years when people are wanting to go back and understand this era of and genre of car. Please please please do more of these videos!! Cheers

[@maggotpudding]

Must say, it'd be tdf for me. In my eye it's just best looking out of these three. And since they all have flappy padels ,might as well choose one with dual-clutches over the one in 599.

[@matmul4850]

Agree. TDF for me too

[@jortepap]

TDF rear just doesn't look right imo. Maybe its those painted parts around the exhaust😖

[@tacom0nsta658]

TDF and 599GTO are fantastic... the last one is kinda eh

[@hksp]

599 is the best choice, with gated 6mt swap, it will feel like on-off clutch if use the stock clutch master, mod it with smaller master pump will make it way easier to modulate the clutch pedal & u can drift it alll day long, the only thing goes dead is the oem clutch but easily fixable with custom clutch. all 3 can be loud and screams to high heaven but the 599 enzo got that dirty sound that make it stands out

[@thestoicwhinger]

There's something about the GTO's engine note that stirs the soul

[@markh6384]

Epic cars and for me 3 really great specs. Blue GTO is stunning!

[@steerj07]

599 GTO will always be king.

[@jovantrendmaker4722]

Nope it will allways be in 3rd place out of three

[@amarjit_singh_]

@@jovantrendmaker4722Not necessarily to someone preferring an analogue experience!

[@CovKid2K10]

Tdf has the best sound

[@jean-michelmarle5689]

YES 599 GTO clearly the best, by far (and drawn to be a pure beauty, not drawn by soufflerie, like the others)

[@jean-michelmarle5689]

Absolutely sure

[@jdsk8914]

Crazy how they all have some variant of the Enzo's V12 engine just in different states of tune.

[@jazzafly257]

An an "official" 'Old Schooler' myself, I feel that the 599 GTO would be the one for me out of these three, although my dream car is still the F12 standard [non TDF]; the GTO probably costs a chunk more than a std F12, so I'd have to be up for that extra outlay, but with these three for choice, I'll go more 'Old School' any day! 599 GTO FTW!

[@OMW2FYB1010]

"A chunk more" yes. You get 4 f12s for 1 gto

[@alexioflexio8818]

the insight is when you drive an F12 TDF vs. a LaF.. and realize that the front engine car, with the intake sound and engine noise coming AT you, is more fun than the Laf with the exhaust far away from you in the back. also, rear wheel steering is transformative and allows for completely different corner entry, almost negating the front engine v12 weight disadvantage the tdf should have over the laf.

[@michaelgakanga]

I’m still shocked ever since I learnt that the TDF is a better Ferrari than the LaFerrari. Now I have rose tinted vision whenever I see a TDF

[@alexioflexio8818]

@@michaelgakanga this is all subjective, but the driving experience of the TDF is singular.. the driving experience of the LaF is just, impressive.. but not unique. i have a great night session at road atlanta in LaF.. it was impressive at big speeds.. the TDF is probably slower, but iv'e driven TDF a lot on road and it's crazy fun, crazy sounds from intake.. really special special car.

[@latbeast]

@@alexioflexio8818it’s not quite as fast as a laf but still absolutely stupidly ridiculously fast on Uk roads, the power delivery is just insane. I put a full stage 3 inconel novitec on my tdf and it sounds absolutely glorious. I doubt you’ll ever hear or feel anything better from Ferrari again

[@alexioflexio8818]

@@latbeast . how does the inconel exhaust change the exhaust note.. is it more of a metallic sound? what i enjoyed most about the TDF experience was the intake noise.. and the rear wheel steering which made it much friendlier than the F12, and able to be driven harder kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHrEnXeGobuWqKssi=uaPan5mx-BhKcE98

[@Themayseffect]

The tdf is the weird middle child. The younger brother is better and more gifted in every way, and the older brother is so much more charming and mature.

[@marcadewerisches9985]

And still for me the one to have

[@horsepower523]

All three of these beautiful Prancing Horses are great and have their own unique character and feel. I just love every single one of them. Front engine GT Ferraris are always so amazing and special.

[@5abivt]

Had the pleasure of driving an 812 superfast a few weeks ago. No words. 🤪

[@sleepeatdrive7619]

I drive a 812 as well. It was super easy to drive in the city but soooo much fun to drive in the open roads outside of the city!

[@ashbm]

what do u do

[@Forshbr04]

Always great to see Mr. Prosser on video. Love the way he is able to break down each car and really convey that feeling to the viewer.

[@andrelima5124]

Love all of them, 599 looks timeless, F12 is the rage machine and the 812 has a " bully " vibe to it mostly because of it's looks.

[@RizM820]

I was wondering where Dan went. Then randomly this video shows up in my recommendations. Glad to have found Dan and of course this magnificent video. Subscribed!

[@eyezblazing3798]

Its just insane that I have to admit the 599 looks the best of the 3!

[@pedrorocha1425]

Yep. Less is more

[@So_Much_Juice_12]

I was heading to bed, then I saw this. Love that GTO! Amazing video. Bravo.

[@christianb.4385]

Well what a gathering. Don't know which one i'd take home I guess I need to experience a V12 first. Purely based on looks it would be the 599 GTO. Idea for a future video: Porsches ! GT4 Spyder vs Boxster GTS vs Base Boxster.

[@amarjit_singh_]

The gearbox in the 599 GTO is still the best single clutch robotized gearbox!

[@jean-michelmarle5689]

Totally agree (from a GTB owner), the single clutch gives this second to none Analog charm to the car.

[@myou6675]

TDF is a masterpiece

[@AntoniusTyas]

Got to be the GTO for me. That F1 robotised manual is just insane. I'll have mine in Rosso F1 2007 please. Next to Azzurro La Plata F12tdf (which I know exists) and 812 Competizione in Cavalcade Verde Volterra (which I also know exists).

[@DonLee1980]

That's the worst gearbox. And it'll be its achilles heel.

[@AntoniusTyas]

@@DonLee1980 not what everyone who's driven one thought of anyway. It's visceral, and if you treat it like manual during downshift or below 5000rpm it's lightning quick. Beyond 5000, do flatshift and the upshift is pretty barmy. And brutal, too, which in a hardcore lightweight Ferrari is kind of right.

[@DonLee1980]

@@AntoniusTyas most ferrari owners avoid the F1 gearbox. The manuals before are the most sought after, the DCT's are the next best, the automated manuals are the least desired. They break all the time, they are horrible to use for parking, or driving at all. Only ok on the race track going full beans.

[@Loekie-de-leeuw]

I also really do see the attractiveness of the best version of the F1 gearbox. It’s just amazing to see the gear shifts unsettle the whole car, its adds to the experience. But in the end I would choose a F12 (tdf) over the 599 (gto) or 812 (competitzione)

[@jean-michelmarle5689]

Funny to read that Formula One has delivered the worst ;) Be serious@@DonLee1980

[@billshoe22191]

I’m not an expert on Ferrari vehicles so I am very curious on the actual curb weight of each of these. Also curious if the F12 TDF has EPS?

[@manoharjishnu2009]

Yes TdF has EPS.

[@Ferrari1617]

@@manoharjishnu2009tdf has hydraulic steering, same as the f12.

[@toohoney8674]

I love the new 812 aperta. Everything one could love about a Ferrari

[@paulknowles7091]

This channel isn’t getting the views it deserves. Great video! Keep up the good work.

[@Georgeionescu205]

Clowns like Watson have millions of subscribers,what a joke

[@michaelgakanga]

The fact that everyone across the world agrees that the TDF is otherworldly special makes me put it at the top of my Ferrari list of cars to buy if funds allow

[@alecordovaa]

Awesome video!

[@Evo1122]

599 looks the best and timeless

[@ilmelangolo]

Best cover of any YT video!

[@jkbdk6723]

I saw a 599 GTO in Saint Tropez a long time ago when i was on vacation with the family. I'll never forget the sound, you could feel it shaking your balls 😅

[@Brajosh_]

He does his best to make us understand how each actually feels to drive.you just earned my subscription

[@matthewdaniels7462]

Thank you for sharing!!!

[@ilko44]

Great video guys, well done!

[@wouternagengast8452]

Fantastic review!! And what a cars!

[@KINGPerformance]

Great Video Guys, keep up the good work !!!

[@IHMA83]

Incredible video 👌🏽

[@robertocalvo934]

Best car reviewer on the planet is back. We need more of this

[@chriswestcott4548]

Incredible trio of Ferrari's. I'd be happy with the standard versions of any one of them. Another great video too!

[@NewtonInDaHouseYo]

Brilliant review and choice of words!

[@DPCcars]

Fantastic video, especially the coverage of the 599 GTO! Makes me wonder if Ferrari will ever revisit the grandeur of V12 front-engined flagships like these.

[@F430Modena82]

The sound of the 599 GTO kills the other two :)

[@boostedt0y]

In the f1 super fast2 trans found in the gto and scud, upshifts need to be done without lifting the throttle. The shifts are fast (60ms) and add to the drama due to the swift kick in your back feel during upshifts.

[@jonathandemacedo158]

How have you made this video with just 10k subs-unbelievable. More please. 😍

[@quickreviewchannel6931]

Subbed and liked all videos, very underrated Chanel!

[@ThexMJT]

599 GTO. I'd kill for one. Stunning thing.

[@chrisgregson3626]

GTO for me. Best looking by miles and, whilst I'll never drive any of them, it's the one I'd most like to have a go in. Don't know what Ferrari were thinking when they did the 812, but the front looks like a Viper (and not because of the blue paint and white stripe). I like the Viper as much as the next guy, but for a limited run Ferrari that is just not good enough. 599 for the win, one of the best modern Ferrari designs in my book.

[@p00pie]

lovely review of these modern classics. i subscribed.

[@PaddleBob]

Glad I found intercooler, Dan is a superb auto reviewer 👍

[@Patrick-bu5vy]

The 599 is the most beautiful, but the 812 is the most desirable. What. A. Car.

[@bezputink]

спасибо за перевод, очень трогательное отношение у вас к людям

[@alexnicholas6065]

of the three, the TDF is my fav just on looks alone. That thing is just savagely beautiful!

[@twinturbo3470]

The 288 GTO was designed for racing with Group B……it’s not its fault that it didn’t get the chance since Group B was cancelled. It deserves the GTO nameplate

[@zakelwe]

Good point. The 599 GTO was just a marketing exercise to make money which is happening more and more with Ferrari as the (sharer)owners get further away from the ideals of Enzo. Note, and not mentioned in this video, when the GTO was released it was critisized by the journalists, including Chris Harris who was at Autocar I think, of not handling as well as the standard GTB. because they had made the front wheels / tyres a lot wider. It went from 245 to 285 I believe, a huge jump. That with the robot manual gearbox means that it is definitely flawed. Then the F12 came out with more power and dual clutch. Probably a lot better to drive, but doesn't have "the badge" of GTO.

[@Stacky18]

For me the 599 gto lacked the looks of the 2 previous gto's. A bit like how the F type jag in terms of looks was a disappointment after the e types looks. I hope the next gto can look the part@@zakelwe

[@DB-fn3fz]

Good point. Let's not forget what GTO actually represents: "Omologato" (homologated). If the 599 GTO never had intentions to race, it should've been called the 599 GT-M "modificato", especially since the 599XX that it takes parts from was never a racing car itself and merely served as a test bed for the successive gran touring road cars.

[@DB-fn3fz]

​@@zakelweGreat points you bring up. From my experience, compared to the 599, the F12 is very fidgety and challenging to drive given its smaller footprint. I believe Ferrari over-corrected when they received complaints about the unwieldy size of the 599, and later found the perfect dimensions with the 812. Still, even with its flaws, the 599 GTO does have a charm about it that seals its own place in time, much like the 360 CS.

[@ricomichel]

I think the Venturi 400GT is a lesser-known car that may be about to get very collectable. I'd love to seen you guys review it

[@slats1987]

Unbelievable lineup

[@MrTimeless101]

These cars together would make a great garage. I would add the 575M with the hgtc package just to round out the front engine gt cars.

[@Gaaaaaaaaaaad]

I'd buy the 599, great video

[@MTUUTB]

best review! thanks

[@manisbho]

I know we all had some issue or another with the 599 GTB but as time has gone on its eventually come in to its own given the right colour. The GTO looked incredible from day one and the single clutch box seems sharp enough!

[@Dwaynefreeman]

As much as i love the GTO, I think the 812 GTS is peak front-engined Ferrari

[@aaa84gt]

Oh wow, just what the doctor ordered! Pissed about the fall rain and darkness, just got home from work. Just bought new TV with new speakers. Pizza in the oven. Wonderful. Thank you so much.

[@glennpearson4699]

Going to pick up my GTC4 V12 in Pisa on Saturday and drive it home. So mountain passes, tunnels and fantastic roads for that god like V12 coming up 👌

[@aviationnixon3082]

Ive always kind of thought Ferrari calling the 599 GTO the "fastest Ferrari ever" at the time was kind of odd, i mean doesnt an Enzo weigh considerably less and only has 10HP less? Does anybody know how the 599 is quicker or if it even is? Ive always wondered that since the Enzo never really gets tested against any other road cars. Would love to hear an answer.

[@tabishhassan8951]

My absolute dream The F12 tdf ❤. There is nothing like this in the modern era. It will be the highest value out of these 3 in the future

[@tomwebb7091]

No chance. Its the poor mans 812 superfast. The GTO is rarer, more special, has the badge of honour and remains a final hurrah of Ferrari in analogue form.

[@tabishhassan8951]

@@tomwebb7091 poor man's 812??? You are completely out of touch in terms of car prices

[@beeleuazevedo8142]

​@@tabishhassan8951fr😂

[@KriFreKil]

@@tomwebb7091 The F12 TDF is 3x the 812 Superfast in price...

[@tomwebb7091]

@@tabishhassan8951 at the moment

[@loydbeenks]

I need all of them 😢😢😢❤❤❤

[@chorn74]

my favorite videos are click bait where before the conclusion they refer you to a pay site. bravo!

[@ahmedabdi5980]

What shade of blue 💙 is that 812 in? It's beautiful 😍

[@JamieCole-wl9lo]

Over Harting hill then towards emsworth, what a Piece off tarmac. It Gets me going in a fiesta edition, god only knows what it’s like flinging a tdf down it 😂

[@dragosflorescu6769]

F12 TDF for life! There is nothing like TDF 👌

[@lukewaring2832]

No other word for it epic. Thanks for sharing .

[@hodsock1]

I had my GTO from new, done 20k miles with no problems and fantastic enjoyment. It is my favourite car by any measure and I have had and got many cars. Loved your piece, but still prefer th GTO over my 812 Comp

[@protestagain]

About a drama on a public road, it wasn't a Ferrari, but a V6 Capri. On a narrow and winding road I met a truck. There was no room for both of us on the road, but luckily it went well even though two of the wheels were in the ditch. What if I had a Ferrari 599 that day and even higher speed, but I still dream of a Ferrari.

[@hadrienlf23]

Always love Dan video's and what will it be with out the signature catch phrase "it explodes at the top end !"

[@justin_dunn46]

Damn it's between the GTO and TDF for me.. I'd never be able to choose

[@jackjeter7527]

Glad to see this guy again

[@viniciusmagnoni6492]

What about the 575m?

[@AB-80X]

What about it? It has nothing to do with either of these. Ferrari never made a VS version of it like these.

[@Person-cv9dj]

My question is why arent these cars mid engined? I mean each of these were ferraris flag ship at the time and when the f12 and the 812 were released they were each at the time of their release the most powerfully ferraris ever built. So why hinder them design and performance wise by making them front engined? THankfully they did finally stick the 812s engine in the la ferrari and called it the daytona sp3 but then again only for a super limited run

[@memememine1]

Technically your right as they are mid engined cus the end of the engine block is behind the front axle. They also have the transmissions at the rear. This does give a slightly distinct driving experience from something truly front engined like a bmw or a mustang. However it is still pretty different from a traditional mid-engine experience like a Ferrari V8 berlinetta or Porsche cayman. The front engine isn't as big of a compromise as you would think with their trans axle layout. All 3 of these cars carry more weight on their rear axle than their front.

[@andrewdavis6226]

Fantastic video chaps. TDF in TDF Blue with tan leather for me please

[@Car10121-s]

Very good! 👏🏽

[@K03sport]

well, "GTU" and "GTO" used to mean something in racing. "U" for under 2.5L of displacement and "O" for over 2.5L. But that was 30 yrs ago in IMSA and long forgotten by most. I loved the GTU FC RX-7. I think I need yellow and black badges for my red Subaru....

[@dragosflorescu6769]

I really like the technological innovations of the 812 Competizione. The vortex system, the massive diffuser, that air-blade on the hood and the new independent wheel system. But I would never give up the F12 TDF! The TDF has that very special something: despite the aggressive aerodynamics it remains a beautiful car. It is based on the F12 Berlinetta, one of the most beautiful cars produced by Ferrari. And has that ferocity in attitude: it's hysterical, wild and boisterous. If you cut her defensive electronics and try to push her to the limits, you have to know what you're doing or this car is going to rip your head off. It's a monster, a beast similar to the Porsche Carrera GT. F12 TDF is a beautiful Lilith and that's why I prefers her over the others.

[@larssonnsx]

you can not underestimate the electronics on these cars. I would like to see a gauge on the dashboard that shows the driver when they have the full 800bhp. I bet it is not very often because these cars will limit torque and bhp to the rear wheels.

[@davidmillion9811]

Great vid

[@timmason5230]

Thanks dan!

[@SandeepSingh-tp8xh]

Anyone know what their verdict was on the winner?

[@Franzino]

Epic review❤

[@Suprahampton]

Since the GTO has the robotised manual, would it be better if it were converted to full manual?

[@muhammadfadil2515]

599 GTO ❤

[@jamespopovic9750]

What a trio!

[@AVV_Beats]

Interesting that the 599 supposedly feels analogue, when at the time of its release Clarkson said precisely the opposite. Have we become desensitized?

[@tommyknightly1659]

LOVE GTO SOUND AND ANALOG

[@karimcy]

Incredible content.

[@euanbegbie]

Needs to be 4K!

[@drthiago]

Note: you can go with the RPMs until 8.700 ok? Not to 6.000 as you did the majority of the time lol

[@natbarron]

Doesn’t own the cars. Therefore doesn’t want to push them too far

[@patrickanderson4360]

So I’ve subscribe to the app - does that not give me access to the website?

[@briantheodoreb2764]

With electrification around the corner for hot hatches. It would be wonderful to see if the current Honda Civic Type R is truly one of the greats by having it go up against the Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport S and the Renault Megane R26.R. Two giant slayers that collected a handful of scalps before cementing themselves as hot hatch royalty. If you could rope in Catchpole for the test, I think you would be onto a winner. Plus, if you need another pair of capable hands, I would love to be involved.

[@latbeast]

We’re talking Ferrari here not boy racer cars

[@b71071]

​@@latbeastwhich Ferrari do you own?

[@supercededman]

My partner's relative (here in Australia) has a 599 AND a TDF. The owner (husband of her cousin) took her for a gentle spin in it. "Loud", lol.