Ferrari F40 or Lamborghini Countach? Talking car design with legendary designer, Frank Stephenson

Ferrari F40 or Lamborghini Countach? Which is the best design of these two iconic supercars? Legendary car designer, Frank Stephenson dropped by Harry's Garage recently to discuss car design and where sports cars go next. Treat this video as part vid, part podcast. If the feedback is goos, then expect some more on the channel sometime soon!
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[@FrankStephensondesign]

WHAT A PLEASURE it was to join Harry on this episode! So enjoyable to talk with a consummate, passionate and knowledgeable colleague around our favourite subject! Definitely a day to remember - made me feel like I was a kid in a massive toy slash candy store. Serious case of drooling and bug eyes (thanks for editing that part out Harry!). Still gushing about the day in conversations with all my friends. The 2nd half of this will go live on my KZbin channel this Thursday at 6PM U.K. time (kzbin.info). If you’re curious to see how I experiment with a “fine-tuning” of the legendary and sacrosanct F40 design, be sure to catch it. Hoping I don’t upset the Mafia or the Pope... 😉

[@rn5362]

LOL! Can't wait for part 2... 🤩

[@harrysgarage]

Pleasure all mine, Frank, loved catching up again and having a peak into the future of car design too. Look forward to watching your design review on the Ferrari F40 when it goes live on Thursday. Can't see much room for improvement there but no doubt you'll prove me wrong!

[@DogZy9]

The two of my favourite youtube channels doing it together - 2020 isn't that bad after all. Grateful for the content, here's to many more. Cheers!

[@leonardodeabreu257]

LEGENDS

[@dosovnis7090]

Amazing to hear your thoughts Frank thanks for sharing the passion with us! Owned an R53 amazing car. Love your channel. Saludos de Sudamerica!

[@stephane_edouard]

For a few weeks now Frank Stephenson is all over KZbin

[@waitbalthy6342]

Stéphane Edouard, le pseudo psychologue suivit par les simples d'esprit. Que viens tu faire ici ? Allez hop ça dégage. Harry is way too classy for you my man, gtfo

[@nick4506]

@@waitbalthy6342 where is the salt coming from? who hurt you?

[@cindysue5474]

The high wing on the Daytona and Superbird worked and was adjustable.

[@markwilliams5654]

One of the worse designers his career is dead

[@LouisButtrick]

@Dev_Phoenix Roblox Ferrari 360 is the worst follow on imaginable from the F355. Agree with you on the P1 but the MC12 has aged awfully.

[@euroshark1]

So Harry says, "today we're going to be joined by Frank Stephenson and have a chat about cars" Only Harry has friends of this caliber. Well done Harry.

[@edkramer5592]

He's just a friend. 'Calibre' suggests elitism, but l know what you meant.

[@johanneswarn5488]

He borrowed Jeremy Clarkson's Alfa GTV6 and referred to him as "a farmer down the road" 😂

[@oileigh]

My friends talk about Ford Focus or a bag of chips. Theyre crap friends. I want friends like Harry’s.

[@colinrunciman5166]

Yes it's well presented by Harry.

[@777jones]

@@edkramer5592 I think caliber suggests legendary people or people of quality. Frank is both, to car fans.

[@jontyb123]

The Countachs’ shape is incredible. There’s nothing like it.

[@Shiva108]

dated you mean :)

[@zyoungson215]

It looks like a humvee

[@gregdales4701]

Yes there is. Lego

[@shaft9000]

It did what had to be done - break free from the perpetual coke-bottle curvature of the past - and brazenly introduced a new design language paradigm for the top sports cars. That it was realized so dramatically and near-perfectly designed by a near-teenager is all the nuttier!

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

This channel is getting better and better, something I thought was impossible

[@edkramer5592]

Let's pray it doesn't get too much better, and end up like those anodyne, self-agrandising facepack celebrations of son wealth.

[@edkramer5592]

Who shall remain nameless.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

incredible stuff fantastic content

[@jonathanpalmer155]

@@edkramer5592 Me somebody?

[@edkramer5592]

@@jonathanpalmer155 if you like

[@richardwollocombe6793]

That has got to be one of the most fascinating videos I've watched on car design and the future of cars. Superb, more please, Harry.

[@kevindimauro9689]

I agree, but it wasn’t just about the future of cars but also about the future of transportation.

[@naturalrestingface4909]

Best vid I've seen for ages. This guy carries through the childhood dream in car design into adulthood. A true artist and he seems like the kinda fella you would want to share a pint with. Good work Mr. Metcalfe!

[@antoniodr618]

I'm Italian and i felt so well respected and represented , Mr.Harry and Mr.Frank (and a lot of English people in general) have so much culture in italian cars history and cars in general, they are gold.

[@C64SX]

Glass over the engine? Jaguar XJ13, 1966. Such a beautiful engine to display as well.

[@markgilbertson1564]

The XJ13 is stunning in the metal. Pride of place at Gaydon museum.

[@C64SX]

@@markgilbertson1564 I really must go there for a visit some day.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

The original countach without all the stuck on bits is achingly pretty.

[@richardmortimer8147]

Would not say "pretty." The E-Type was pretty. The 250 Lusso was pretty. The Miura was pretty. The Countach is more muscular!

[@stephanvelines7006]

You're right the Countach LP400 is a gorgeous design. Those are very rare though. The later versions may have the naughtyness due to the fleared wheel arches, air intakes and the rear spoiler but the original design by Gandini is timeless (minute 3:58 ). Also production techniques where not advanced enough for the original design leading to sharp edges at the front window line. Also the bottom rear would have looked much better if it was naked and you could see the rear tires, the rear differential and gearbox as well as suspension components.

[@EliteRock]

I once liked it (as a teenager) but now I will never allow myself to love any design which uses a steep, flat windscreen, it's bad in every way - stylistically, aerodynamically and functionally (massive un-sighting by the A-pillars). Check out Koenigsegg (or even the Miura!) to see how it should be done.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

M R A Scott that’s a ridiculous thought process, it’s like saying, and here is one for the kids, cindy Crawford isn’t pretty because of that mole.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

Richard Mortimer the LP400 is pretty, like I say, before all the bits got stuck on.

[@jasonloader8149]

‘I love the mesh’ ‘I hate meshes’ ‘I do too’

[@cutdepiefails6596]

😅

[@matgee8892]

I think that was more a comment on being able to see the exhaust and other components behind the mesh and not so much the mesh itself.

[@Mistawes]

And then the P1 example, has mesh.. 🤷‍♂️

[@HollywoodF1]

I feel like what Harry meant was he liked the open panel at the back and just accepted that the mesh was necessary to facilitate that. Then the other chap commented on the mesh itself.

[@chrisrogerson]

The Countach is a continuation of 1970s design. The F40 was a vision of the upcoming 1990s. You’d really need to compare a Diablo with the F40 to be apples and apples.

[@edkramer5592]

He nearly did; well you were shown a pic anyway.

[@ripptorr]

Even so.. the Diablo has no chance in this comparison. It's just a grown up countach. The F40 is a legend, period. From Lamborghini, I think there are 2 cars that really changed the game- The Miura - that was mindblowing when it came out ant then the Countach when it came out in the late 70's. Yeah, late 70's to see a countach was indeed something. After that all of their cars were better evolutions, but not legends. Still great cars that follow a good recipe for a supercar- Big NA engines in the back and a dramatic look. That's ok but it's no legend stuff sorry!

[@madmack10g88]

@@ripptorr F40 is the best looking car EVER, it's timeless. 😘

[@itsme-notyou]

The man has a point.

[@delahayenator]

The Countach concept is one of the first productioncars using this sharp styling, not really a continuation but more a trendsetter. The F40 shape is still family of the 308 family styling and much more conservative. So its actually the other way around. Also F40 and Diablo cant be compared. Completely different concept. F40 was engineered and designed as a racecar suitable for roaduse. Ultimate trackday weapon. The Diablo is a luxury extreme supercar for roaduse.

[@stefndogg]

As a car designer, Frank is one of my idols. I had a chance to spend quite a bit of time chatting with him at the Mclaren tent during Monterey car week some years back. I was a design student then, and he was very gracious with his time, and offered to look at my sketches and give feedback. Thanks for this Harry!

[@bluesky9093]

I could literally listen to Frank discuss car design all day long. He has such a straight forward way of explaining it to novice people like myself

[@timc5969]

For me it’s the Bedford Rascal

[@pile333]

In its category, surely. It's nicely recognizable.

[@snap_oversteer]

>>>/o/

[@rocketn8]

I used to drive a Suzuki Supercarry 1.3. The little engine in that thing loved to rev. Was actually quite exciting to drive not gonna lie 😂.

[@oohmeconkers1968]

The VAN of the GODS!!

[@kingoneeyed3433]

A modern icon.

[@duileyah]

Watching these two talk about cars was the most enjoyable hour of the year.

[@zaklingenhammer2149]

The gills below the f40s wing is what gets me

[@davemeese6788]

The glimpse at the inside of the f40 is beautiful

[@markgilbertson1564]

@@davemeese6788 Fortunately Ferrari build quality has improved. F40 looks like a kit car close up. The sad thing is in 35 years of driving I have only seen one F40 and never spotted a Countach outside a motor show.

[@peterbett3076]

MARK GILBERTSON agreed, I saw an F40 parked up at a trackday at Knockhill a few years ago (i think Dario Franchitti’s) and it had the overwhelming look of a minimalist, somewhat tatty track rat. Not what I expected at all, killed the romance entirely

[@emjayay]

@@peterbett3076 OT, but a couple days ago I was in NYC SOHO (late 1800's buildings, very little traffic and all of it going very slowly) and heard a V8 burble, looked up and a white Aston Martin Lagonda, the insane wedge shaped one, going around the corner right in front of me. The last one I saw was in freeway traffic in LA in the 1970's, also white. Certainly one of the most distinctive and rare cars ever, and amazing to see on the street. It must cost about a Corolla a year to keep one going.

[@marcob1729]

I really enjoyed the bit about the beer can Mini exhaust. Great story

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'm in my upper 40's now. I think many my age grew up with the famous Lamborghini poster on the wall. Also, let's not forget the Cannonball Run blockbuster movie. If you were from that era then it will always be the Countach. You just had to live it. 👍

[@joebeus6886]

For Me it's The Gumball Rally and Ferrari Daytona spyder! 😎👌

[@joebeus6886]

@Seamus McShamish When it "flew over the water",that was 1989 Speed Zone(Unofficial The Cannonball Run 3)! Also,Countach is 70s Car(designed in 71 and produced in 74),still popular in the 80s!! And F40 is 1987!! Still,they are Both ICONIC !!! PS 1989 Speed Zone or Cannonball Fever!!

[@matthewpotter8491]

Harry makes the best car videos on KZbin IMO. Give he his channel everyday over some of these ‘younger’ you tubers who’re just seemingly about the likes and and buy a new car every 5 minutes.

[@edkramer5592]

They get bored easily, those 'poor' prodigals.

[@MRCL-190]

Okay boomer

[@edkramer5592]

@@MRCL-190 no boomers here, marcey.

[@tollyt7465]

I've never driven a Countach, but Ive driven an F40 and its my favourite car of all time driving wise. Totally mesmerising behind the wheel. My mate who owns it allowed me 3 laps of Brands Hatch, but I ended up doing 6, with him laughing because I just kept flying past with an insane grin on my face as he tried to get me in..

[@festol1]

Harry please invite mr Frank more often to discuss cars designs. What a great video this one was! Congrats!

[@MrLeonidas1974]

Keep them coming Harry Your films are one of the few Joy's I have during lockdown

[@Iceracer25]

The fastest hour of my life. What a wonderful video. I've had a 308 for 2 years and still stare at all the lines from different angles. I'm constantly finding new design characteristics to appreciate on her. Thanks again for sharing Harry!

[@silvermovermedia9737]

Great video. The Lamborghini was disco, the F40 was rock n roll

[@stephen300o6]

So which one do you prefer?

[@silvermovermedia9737]

@@stephen300o6 if I could take one home, I’d have the Ferrari F40

[@SimonPhillips76]

Led Zeppelin or The Bee Gees. Not difficult to choose.

[@Vanilla.coke1234]

It's crazy that a video that was almost an hour long was so easy to watch. Really says a lot about these two

[@Peter-MH]

Love them both, but the F40 just is, & probably will always be, the ultimate supercar!

[@peterpillar5724]

Epic vehicle. Always felt it was more of a track car than a super car. Guess it depends on you definition 🙂

[@sage11x]

Mclaren F1. Ultimate performance and usable everyday. The F40 is awesome but the F1- it will always be the ultimate supercar.

[@peterpillar5724]

@@sage11x definitely up there! I’m not sure the F1s design language is exotic/ romantic enough to earn my top spot. If I were a computer it would surely have it though 😉 The F1 is a magnificent amalgamation of tremendous numbers and engineering prowess

[@нико-р2х]

And also the most beautiful car ever in My opinion

[@gweflj]

The F1 still looks more like a fighter jet and anything else IMO.

[@Ric995]

Who would have thought that I could watch 2 old men talking about 2 old cars for an hour!! But I loved it. Harry's garage is my favorite channel!

[@garethclayton]

Brilliant video Harry. I could listen to Frank for hours and hours. Harry, Frank and Ian together would be a mega night down the pub.

[@judih.8754]

"Those are the people we need to eliminate from the gene pool." YES, a man who speaks honestly!

[@archiegoodwinjr]

Thank you, Harry, for this session with designer Frank Stephenson. Such insight. So informative. Brilliant. A much appreciated escape from the world.

[@edkramer5592]

Thank you for not mentioning the c word.

[@marcgerges1380]

Hi Harry, this type of interview with designers of iconic cars is priceless. It would be great to get Frank in again and compare other cars or perhaps a 430 and and you interview him on his design queues while walking around the car. Great work!!!

[@zaklingenhammer2149]

The first time I saw an f40 I fell in love with it immediately.

[@johnsmith1474]

This is important to know.

[@TheScudabear1]

@@johnsmith1474 😂😂😂😂

[@joe125ful]

Yeah Ferrari know how design cars.

[@328gts1987]

Nice to invite my favorite (car)designer Frank. I got several of his car-designs in the garage in real life (Mini, F430, BMW). I met him once at Pebble Beach talking to him about his 2nd passion; Guitars (hand-build) from Spain and of course watches... It was the following year we both met you, at Gooding auction of Pebble Beach, next to a countach Periscopo, sold at $1,9 milj the next day. I enjoyed the video very much (almost as much as your report on the Testarossa to Morocco ;-)) we talked about that time and your Mille Miglia in the 550 Maranello.

[@Starfishtroopers]

Stephenson is a legend with a great KZbin channel.

[@ColinHarvey78]

Fascinating interview and talk with two of the most insightful people on cars and design. Great to see this!

[@sundeepubhi]

Another great video Harry. It's up there with the Gordon Murray interview. Great piece of work 👍🏼

[@nhilltiger]

I have been a Harry fan for a long time, and this was one of the most interesting videosdid not know of Frank Stephenson (my bad), and 2) the discussion on the future of car design and ) the length of the video to allow a decent discussion between two serious petrol heads. Loved it - well done, and thank you Harry and Frank

[@treyquattro]

what a treat! Two of the best car guys on KZbin together discussing two of the most iconic cars of all time. Fantastic, Harry & Frank,

[@bertramspielt]

Talking time with Harry, and the minutes are running so quickly! This video is really near a hour long... It does not feel this long. Two enthusiastic gentlemen talking about car design, brilliant education and entertainment! Thank you so much for this great video with the legendary Frank Stephenson, I can't wait to see the F40 Video on his channel! Stay healthy! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹

[@aminemk6192]

The automotive collaboration I knew I need it... Thank you! You both are the proof that "being a KZbinr" isn't just for young lads. You are killing it with the content you are uploading! Thanks to both of you!

[@rodgruzelier4997]

Car guys, we are here to stay, thanks to folks like Harry and Frank. My love affair started when I saw an XK120 'floating' over a bed of roses at Academy Day, Stonyhurst in 1957. Bought my first Jag in '65 an XK150 FHC, had Jags ever since. Now 78 I take out my XJ8 every day, stick it in S mode and let the engine rip....I never want to leave that feeling. Cheers to ALL petrolheads around this rock. Love your shows Harry, keep 'em coming.

[@battistrada]

I wish I could give this video a triple like! Harry and Frank - it's like Batman and Spiderman of automotive world in one video 😎

[@FenderUsa]

"you can't beat a knob" - Frank Stephenson

[@DethThrasher1]

you definitely can, my uncle taught me that

[@lilbang0623]

Puberty taught me otherwise

[@Mile-long-list]

Tell my wife. Shes got tons of practice

[@morbsgti20vt83]

@@Mile-long-list Yeah, we all knew that Mark

[@followthegrow108]

Just got done beating my knob

[@Tq78]

Best vid I’ve seen in a long time! 2 proper established petrol heads at heart, that seem to have a genuine friendship. Love it.

[@cookedit]

A Marcello Gandini design (in this case the Countach) will almost always win, if we are judging on looks alone. Although the the designer of the F40, Signor Leonardo Fioravanti, is also one of the all-time great designers. The F40 would be the preferred car to drive though. The most outrageous design vs the purest drive. Two cars that reached two separate pinnacles of what a supercar should be. Both are legends

[@atomsmasher9]

Lonardo Fioravanti designed the 308/328/288 gto (and probably 512 bb too), in my opinion the purest, most brilliant unadulterated sport classic shape of all times

[@sahalabdulgafoor4372]

F40 looks much better for me.

[@Mexxx65]

As you know Harry, I am a regular and subscriber to your great cartube channel. But I feel like putting something back into the online car enthusiast community, and not be typically critical! I feel like throwing a big nugget in here to all cartubers, as I’ve not seen any of you run with it so far? Never in the History of the Automobile, in this Cov-19 Pandemic year, or never in my lifetime, I was born in 1965, has the Car become much more important to us all, other than just a means of transportation!! Many of us have been forced to live within the small boundaries of our houses and homes. Our cars are the PERFECT means with which we can all still safely go out and live somewhat during this time! With our Car’s inherent “safety cocoon”!! I am sure it has been more than just commuting, they are directly keeping us all sane, more healthy, contributing to our overall mental health and most importantly making us all feel more optimistic about our Post-Pandemic lives!!!! In my eyes, this has been the YEAR OF THE CAR!!!! I should mention this as well. I am sure many of us here know of the inevitability of a financial recession happening world wide now. And many, many large and small companies going broke. Many larger companies crying they’ve had the worst sales this year in their short histories, ie Car Manufacturers. BUT! I am sure I am not alone in noticing this right now! Who knows of a family member or friend, that has bought a new or even brand new car this year? For me, 2 neighbors have bought brand new cars, my niece bought a brand new SUV this year, and I have seen more trailers with old cars ontop than ever before in my street!!!! I have even added an old classic car to my Dream Garage Collection this year!! I personally think we are all buying MORE cars this year then I can remember…No matter what the media is telling us all about, with our inevitable recession, and no one having any money to spend. In short..It really is the YEAR OF THE CAR!!!! My 2 cents. I’ve put forward this year to our online car enthusiast community. And thank you, if you’ve read my longish comment this far and for the couple of minutes of your time!

[@duaneallain4581]

Great channel. Much love from Trinidad and Tobago. 🇹🇹

[@dappergent9422]

Quite possibly the best motoring video I've watched. I could listen to this man talk about car design all day long.

[@harrysgarage]

Thanks, Frank has some great tales to tell..

[@sja9836]

I was at the London Motor Show in 1987 - every year as my Uncle was the late David Jolliffe (ex Rob Walker Racing) he owned and ran Portman Lamborghini (Sole UK Lamborghini Concession) on George Street W1 for 31 years. See Supercar Classics ~ ‘Supercars I have Known’ article on David, September 1989 with Stirling Moss and his SLR on the cover well worth a read. I've been lucky enough to drive no end of Lamborghini and others. I worked for Davids friend David Stephens who owned Heathmans in Parsons Green (aged 18 for a few years 86/87/88/89/90) driving and selling newish/used and at the time classic Lambos and Maserati, De Tomaso Iso Griffo - all the great Italian cars and others (1950s Vette's, Modern Porsche all sorts). Countach was and is a fab distance car, crossing Europe as I did many times in one. The car other than the 288 GTO though and I mean THE CAR for me was and still is the F40. I saw that The Hairpin Company had this as I was looking only the last few days at F40's. Love the show Harry. Keep it up.

[@edkramer5592]

That's very satisfying, and l presume your name isn't really Archer.

[@johndavey72]

That's a great story ! Not many, if any, could have the joy of driving these works of art ! And yes, on design alone the F40 is the beauty , the Countach the beast! Thanks for sharing.

[@simonpearson4924]

That was one of your best Harry! Really enjoyed this video.

[@daraghmorrissey]

If I had a gun to my head, I'd have the Lamborghini. It's incredible looking and it looks like its going fast even when it's parked. I love Harry's car - those gold alloys look like something from Wacky races. Great video and conversation.

[@stevebr551]

One of my favorite episodes of any car channel. An absolute pleasure to be a "virtual" fly on the wall for what looked like two friends talking about their shared passion.

[@Scuderia2000HD]

Thank you for keeping it one hour long!

[@richardmortimer8147]

2 characters. One of the best videos I've seen from Harry. Love Frank. Love the Budweiser can story. Reminds me of a friend at school. He bought a can of Coke from the corner shop. Drank the contents. Then bent the can in half! He snapped it and it was a perfect half. So, he crushed the top part a little and jammed it in the bottom half, so it looked like a perfect, half sized can! Then, he went back in the shop and said to the shop keeper, "I pulled the ring tab and look what happened!"

[@JaZoN_XD]

14:40 almost fell out of my chair with how dead serious he said it LOOOL

[@jamesf2656]

So glad this video remained largely unedited. Great conversation

[@snakerb]

Been (im)patiently waiting for days. It’s finally here.

[@soupfork2105]

2 of my favourite car youtubers discussing my 2 favourite cars. 2020 is redeeming itself!

[@Cubulation]

his analogy of the countach as versace is spot on

[@epicon6]

After watching this i thought it was a 15 minute video! That's how interesting this was. I could listen to you two for days.

[@ChrisBrideauMedia]

The words he's looking for are "Cars are becoming more of an appliance"

[@they_are_all_gone]

an easily disposable appliance.....

[@simplesimon755]

It is rare that I can hold a smile on my face for very long in 2020. But when I saw that this latest from Harry was 55 minutes long I was instantly happy and held that smile from start to finish. Great work once again, Mr. Metcalfe. Looking forward to more from Harry's Garage and Harry's Farm.

[@drchunkybiscuit9973]

F40 for me Harry. 😁👍🚗

[@ThomasKrul]

Two of my absolutely favorite cars and what great insights. One of the things that must be said about the Countach is that as a 12-year old car (at the time this one was manufactured), it represents changes that were never intended for the original design. Looking at the first LP400s, the design is so clean by comparison. As the model advanced into the 1980's, it had to encompass wider rims and tires, downforce-for-show, new regulations for bumpers and bumper safety, and lights. All of these things were tacked on to increasingly make the car look more like a "bad boy" race car. While the original could easily ford a typical driveway cutout, the later editions sported tacked-on ground-scraping ground effects kits, gigantic rear wings (famously advertised as costing as much as some entry level cars), and for those who really couldn't stop themselves - FRONT wings that ensured that the car looked ridiculous on a poster or in some glam rockstar's driveway. The original intent in 1971 was based on how Italians viewed the future: clean, sharp, with that windshield and front hood almost perfectly matching in angle so that the wedge became one gigantic frontal surface, only subtly softened with a bit of curvature imbued through the handcrafted tradition of the metal-benders. The engine cover and nacelles were not a missed opportunity to showcase the engine, but were intentionally designed to imply an advanced power plant from some futuristic power source. The final Countach LP5000S Anniversary Edition, festooned with almost every surface covered like some kind of bloated tumor, was the penultimate exercise in excess. The Countach is like a ham sandwich: after a while, customers got tired of ham on white bread and started asking for mustard, then pickles, and lettuce, and tomatoes, pepper, mayonnaise... until finally the original plain ham sandwich actually looks tasty and interesting again, as you can taste the meat and the bread for what it is. The crazy sandwich plays on as the newer Lambo models, but there's still something thrilling about the plain vanilla version. That being said, Harry's car is quite clean and exciting, as it lacks the US-spec bumpers and the excessive tacked-on ornamentation of some later models.

[@AMG63]

When people say "if I won the lottery the car I would buy is" mine is definitely the F40.

[@Android-vk8yh]

Good choice mate I was at the 1987 London car show just a kid and we queued up for ages just to get near it was amazing just to see it in the flesh I just hope I'll be privilege one day to get even closer to one. I'd have to have an f40 if I was a billionaire and the McLaren F1 to go with it.👍

[@user-ht9fr6eh9u]

I found myself behind one in Guildford, I followed it for half an hour, bought a tear to the eye. Hair stood on end, mesmerized. World was better much better back then

[@johnlong123long]

great video Harry. pls do more interview, car chats with people, it's really interesting and great content to break up the reviews. congrats

[@JBMountainSkills]

“...eliminate from the gene pool..” 😂

[@edkramer5592]

classic yank racism, or gung ho trying-to-impress parlance? Whatever, they sacked him and he went to Fiat

[@henryportwood9364]

@@edkramer5592 Since when is ‘people who stick there hands on hot exhausts’ a race?

[@AnttiBrax]

@@henryportwood9364 Well, I suppose Ed assumed we talked about Americans... 😂 "Objects in rear view mirror are closer than they appear."

[@FrankStephensondesign]

@@edkramer5592 😂

[@stephenpage-murray7226]

@@edkramer5592 He wasn’t sacked.

[@andrewjenkins4730]

Fantastic insight into design, form over function. What a inspirational guy Frank Stephenson is.

[@Mile-long-list]

I can afford a Bburago model so I'll just buy both

[@raulio81]

I even have an F 50. Why not?

[@olik136]

the funny thing is that I still have both... bought them new in the 90s... but the F40 is the only of my cars that I used to play with- because I thought it was so hideous that scratches didn't matter :)

[@Mile-long-list]

@@olik136 sadly you've degraded the value of it by at least 3 dollars. When I was in italy I bought an F40 model so I can say I went to italy and bought a Ferrari.

[@Mile-long-list]

@@raulio81 your collection must be worth tens of dollars like mine !

[@rvcasa]

@@Mile-long-list “went to Italy and bought a Ferrari” so very funny 😂

[@readventurekids]

Fantastic chat by two legends about another two legends. In terms of design, it's Countach every day for me.

[@christophercatto7184]

P.S. Countach in piemontese is literally "contagio" (contagion), which is indeed an exclamation like sacre bleu in french. Gandini explains it somewhere although that interview might be hard to find.

[@tristan7586]

I'll never own these vehicles, but as a young boy these were both my hero cars. Thanks for the great insight into the F40 and comparison!

[@Porkycheun]

That beer can story was great!

[@zippy963]

Love both cars but design wise the Countach is my choice. (288GTO is also better looking than the F40 in my opinion) another great video and thanks for the intro to Frank's channel.

[@richardhoulton4016]

Agree...the 288GTO is the one I lust over. It’s Ferrari does hot-rod/muscle-car and the best looking “modern” Ferrari IMHO. The F40 is purely “function”.

[@LaRusso]

That beer-exhaust story was pretty funny 😂

[@christurner8062]

Fascinating and compelling viewing - thanks so much for getting someone with Frank’s insight in. This was also the man who penned the original Escort Cosworth and wanted to put a triple tier wing on the back (because he liked the Fokker Triplane of WW1) but the bean counters stopped him - Legend! Please, please can we have a Harry’s Garage vid on that F40....?

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

48:43 "You can't beat a knob" - Frank Stephenson :D

[@peskachina]

Talking about F40, Countach, Espada....and the discussion drifts onto our little MINI. Love it!

[@pezzonovante888]

I can't imagine the Countach having a transparent engine lid - it would look horrible imo. It flows so much better the way it is. It's more shapely.

[@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040]

One of the most interesting videos, not only from Harry’s but from all the car KZbin channels.

[@viriatvsoflvsitania5422]

Two automotive legends in one video 👌🏼

[@cookedit]

Make that four! The two cars and the two men.

[@viriatvsoflvsitania5422]

@@cookedit Eheheheh, I was referring to Harry and Frank, but that will do.

[@f32440i]

I love this guy, so genuine and passionate about design, great show Harry on this video.

[@howardmckenna]

Stylistically the Countach, hands down. Especially in this spec, red with gold rims, yummy. But... I'd prefer to own the F40. Above that though, the 288gto wins in the looks and desirability.

[@hvymtal8566]

Ferrari 275 P2 for me. Fast, but not so fast it's no longer public road-friendly, it still has the squared off rollbar design so it's still fairly livable with a roof if necessary, it looks purposeful but it's still a "sportscar" in terms of appearance and not just a pure 100% race prototype, and it's proportioned absolutely perfectly

[@joe125ful]

288GTO is great looking car! Also i want own one day street legal FXX anything cant produce that insane sound:)

[@RyanBuskirk]

Watching the banter between these two enthusiasts is simply engrossing and brillant.

[@anmihovil]

After Mini ( R53 ) F. Stephenson was one of my favorite car designers. R53 was best remake of an iconic design I could imagine. Personally, I don't like huge overhangs ( allowed only on Audi... ) R53 was almost 'overhangless' car. I never saw such a small car fitted with 18'' wheels looking so good, and looking at it you'd think 19'' inches would fit good as well. It was a true design masterpiece, especially Cooper S. Proportions of that car were simply put: Perfect! They, BMW, messed with it later on and destroyed it completely.

[@bjmullan]

I'm with your Harry, Countach over the F40 every day and very few things above a Periscopio. BTW what a lovely chat between two people that love and understand cars.

[@Kolinu2]

This is so interesting, thank you Harry,

[@oddvin31]

How cool was that! Stellar guest + great topic + Harry = A damn good, cheerful, interesting and happy episode! THX guys 👍🏼😃

[@TheKnutin]

The Countach and F40 are two totally different beasts. You can't choose between them.

[@sq1rlsqu4d]

Indeed. I'll take both ;)

[@johnsmith1474]

Doesn't matter anyway.

[@4wheelsonmywagon733]

Completely agree..... surely it’s testarossa v countach.... the F40 was race focused. The F40 should be compared to 959 🙏

[@niichuuko1095]

Sure I can. The countach.

[@joe125ful]

This is why F40 cant be compared by any car:)

[@richardpeasley9774]

Brilliant and very interesting that great designers such as Stephenson and Gordon Murray feel that the way forward in the long term is not electric but synthetic or hydrogen fuels and of course reduction of weight. Possibly the most enlightening car video that I have seen in a long time, thank you.

[@franciscomarques3571]

55 minutes of harry and stephenson? Must be christams today!

[@bsport320]

A real pleasure to listen to you guys!

[@bicyclist2]

Call me crazy all you want but I prefer the Countach. It's got air conditioning a radio and the Countach is an icon of a generation. Thank you.

[@marcushull12]

not crazy at all , i agree F40 is like a kit car , a fast kit car granted . most people on here seem to favour it but i`m sure if you put both at either end of an empty car park more people would be around the Lambo than the F40

[@brianiswrong]

Iam 55 and would also take the countach,I think it longer production run and just how game changing it look on showing it to a stunned motoring world,sealed it a place in my heart.

[@WizzardPrang]

I hadn't appreciated until now, how flat the Countach's side windows are and I've learnt that there's a name for that design element. Brilliant video Harry. 👍🏻

[@pierrespiteri4855]

dear sir please interview Mr Nicola Materazzi about the f40 he built it.

[@harrisventures]

"It's about all five senses." A truly phenomenal show. Thank you.

[@jonathan9380]

F40 since day 1 for me. Nothing comes close..... Except maybe the original GT40 🤔

[@edkramer5592]

it's the fantasy/reality thing again. Until we get to own these historical monsters, they shall remain amazing cars.

[@morbsgti20vt83]

Think I will stick to ending it 'tash' ....Will be interested to see if Harry does the same in the future?

[@houtanarefi3325]

That conversation was amusing. I really enjoyed that. Please keep doing it.

[@Bastian_Contrary]

F40 Materazzi’s masterpiece. Watch his interview on KZbin