Ferrari GTC4 Lusso T review | Living with 602bhp V8 everyday supercar | Autocar

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Autocar

6 жыл бұрын

Can you really call a £200,000 V8 like the Ferrari GTC4 Lusso T an everyday, entry-level car? Whatever, we're going to do it anyway: the GTC4 Lusso is Ferrari's most usable car, after all.
It has four-seats, breadvan-style bodywork with a reasonable boot beneath it - it even has split-fold rear seats.
The original variant had four-wheel drive and a V12 engine, but Ferrari has since introduced this turbocharged 3.9-litre V8 model at the 'bottom' of the range. It's rear-drive only, but still has in excess of 600bhp and a price you can take to well in excess of a quarter of a million pounds with some deftly judged options.
Just how usable is this car, then? Sure, it'll look dramatic and go very fast (0-62mph in 3.5sec) in the right conditions, but what if you choose crummy roads in crummy conditions in the middle of a crummy English winter? It says GT in the name: can it GT in real life?
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@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 6 жыл бұрын
re: the lack of rear wiper you forget the first rule of Italian driving. What's behind me is not important.
@SamAustin
@SamAustin 6 жыл бұрын
Best review of the V8 GTC4 all other reviews focus on the V12 being another level just because of the noise but its important to say the V8 is no slouch and with a little less weight handles better so great points to make. Plus a tiny bit friendlier to polar bears.....win win
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot more to the V12 than just sound. It is totally different, more lively. It flairs up much better, is more crisp and just more alive. The V8 might be a tad lighter, but the engine feels a lot more sluggish. The Lusso T engine has more in common with the Cali T engine, and lacks the punch of the 488 engine. The V12 is the Lusso to have, and I could not imagine choosing the T.
@hrj7528
@hrj7528 3 жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X I chose the T, I treat it like a family car...the price is only one factor, more importantly it has a significantly better mileage for roadtrips, and it's something that won't wake the neighbors and scare my kids
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
@@hrj7528 yeah id imagine the v8 is better for long trips with family members.
@SCYorks
@SCYorks 4 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell a good review from Autocar and one I agree with well done.
@lakesidemission7172
@lakesidemission7172 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@hrj7528
@hrj7528 3 жыл бұрын
Great review but some of his comments are actually a bit understated. I'm prob not the only person in the comment section to daily drive a lusso but the rear seats actually have a lot of space and head room, by most cars' standards, not just supercar. The suspension is magic, I drive a mercedes s class for work and I'm telling you, the lusso handles bumpy roads almost as well as that
@ahdi77
@ahdi77 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kristianbrandt3012
@kristianbrandt3012 5 жыл бұрын
If you actually want this to drive everyday, then I see absolutely no reason why you'd buy the V12 over this. And I love that it's completely indistinguishable from the V12, which is a really nice touch as most car makers would've fitted some eye popping detail to the exterior which would never let you, and those around you, forget that you're in the cheaper car.
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm thinking on getting one of this for daily driving but this or gt3 Porsche
@kristianbrandt3012
@kristianbrandt3012 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroP1980s Isn't the Porsche a bit too... easy?
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroP1980s I daily a Lusso V12 and sold my GT3RS this summer. Youbwill hate having a GT3 as a daily. It is as comfortable as falling down the stairs, and it does not manage to feel properly special. The Lusso V12 is brilliant and always feels special
@MichaelCarmichael
@MichaelCarmichael 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely report on a rear-drive turbocharged V8 Ferrari that I would prefer to the AWD GTC V12 - better balance, lighter, handling, relative simplicity and more focused.
@jccole7092
@jccole7092 6 жыл бұрын
"Hey, it's cheaper and more normal!" Price tag : £200,000
@HesteBremse
@HesteBremse 6 жыл бұрын
LoL! - £200,000 and +600 HP is more normal than what ?
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest issue with that statement is that we don't buy a Lusso because it feels normal.
@ylilycam
@ylilycam 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! Ferrari have finally built an ''Everyman Ferrari''...........I'll whip out now and finally get one!!
@longtailgt
@longtailgt 6 жыл бұрын
As nice as this V8 is, I'd still take the V12. Its just got more character, better engine sound and feels like a proper GT. Its not trying to be two cars at once like this V8 is.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 жыл бұрын
I know you're right, but the "lighter is better" part of me still nags me towards the V8. I suppose that's just an indication that I cannot even fathom purchasing or owning either one of them, lol.
@longtailgt
@longtailgt 6 жыл бұрын
Alan Bowers Yes, at the end of the day our opinions won't matter because we can't afford them anyway. But still we express them, right?
@future62
@future62 6 жыл бұрын
We must protect the V12 at all costs. This thing weighs 2 tons, weight considerations are irrelevant
@blackthanos85
@blackthanos85 4 жыл бұрын
You talk about the V8 being "two cars at once" when the body is actually two cars at once.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
@@longtailgt we?
@richardmarsh1769
@richardmarsh1769 6 жыл бұрын
Panamera e hybrid turbo s , sport tourismo makes it look like a car from the last century !
@younesten5106
@younesten5106 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best car in the world
@user-nu5nx4kv1d
@user-nu5nx4kv1d 4 жыл бұрын
White pearl, best color
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 жыл бұрын
So I had no idea the GTC4 Lusso T was rear drive only. I thought that the "4" in GTC4 indicated the number of drive wheels, as I believe it does in the V12 model. Now I know, but now part of me wishes Ferrari would build a RWD V12 GTC4!
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
The 4 means four seats.
@thezanzibarbarian5729
@thezanzibarbarian5729 4 жыл бұрын
Just one silly question from someone who's never even sat in a Ferrari. For the gears, you have buttons to push. Reverse, Auto and Launch. So how does one get the car back into neutral?
@thezanzibarbarian5729
@thezanzibarbarian5729 4 жыл бұрын
@Pierre cim - Cheers for that. It is pull both paddles :-))...
@csopr
@csopr 6 жыл бұрын
If I had the money i'd have the V12
@lavergnee
@lavergnee 5 жыл бұрын
You can have the rear wiper, it is part of the endless options list…
@ridedirect9114
@ridedirect9114 4 жыл бұрын
its also no charge option
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
@@ridedirect9114 Yep.
@floridamankyle5461
@floridamankyle5461 4 жыл бұрын
If it only had the 458 Italia NA V8, 9000rpm in a shooting brake, that would make it perfect.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
Have you any idea how anemic and limp the Lusso would be with that little engine? The V12 is perfect. If anything it needs the F12 mill.
@floridamankyle5461
@floridamankyle5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X it would be quick enough for me, that sound alone is worth it.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
@@floridamankyle5461 It is a bit more complex. It is a very heavy car, the V12 is perfect for it. I test drove the T before buying the V12, and there is a massive difference. Now imagine an engine with way less torque and hp. It will feel sluggish and high strung. Part of what makes the V12 great, is its effortless nature. That engine is a must. Personally I also think it sounds a lot better than the 458 engine.
@snowcountry322
@snowcountry322 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t get over the strange proportion.
@MadXed
@MadXed 6 жыл бұрын
Is this the only Ferrari you can buy with a choice of 2 engines? I cant think of any other past or present.....
@ibrahimsher7868
@ibrahimsher7868 6 жыл бұрын
the v12 suits the character and noise more for this car? but I can forgive it since the v8 is from ferrari themselves. the db11 is alot worse. the v8 in their car came from Amg and I think that's ruined it. they should have put in an updated/revised v8 from the vantage in the db11 if they were to do a v8.
@ibrahimsher7868
@ibrahimsher7868 6 жыл бұрын
+Prashanth Panicker I know Mercedes v8 are the best in the business. But it's kind of lost some of the character and passion of the Aston Martin.
@ibrahimsher7868
@ibrahimsher7868 6 жыл бұрын
+Prashanth Panicker apparently there's rumours of a brand new vanquish in the near future too. Which is also equally exciting. looking forward to finding out more about it
@clutched77
@clutched77 6 жыл бұрын
ibrahim sher I’m surprised you haven’t got any likes
@f.f.thegentlemandriver
@f.f.thegentlemandriver 6 жыл бұрын
Wow
@GregWallis
@GregWallis 6 жыл бұрын
If I had the money, and I haven't, I'd plump for the Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo thingy. The FF, or whatever it's now called, is interesting but still a little odd for my tastes.
@beaggyboy
@beaggyboy 6 жыл бұрын
Ferrari shud explore 'Supercharger' techs.
@niradgupta4075
@niradgupta4075 6 жыл бұрын
I think it would be hilarious to do a comparison test between this and a Golf R or Focus RS.
@thismanagain
@thismanagain 6 жыл бұрын
It's called the GTC Lusso T. It's not 4WD. That version is called the GTC4 Lusso.
@browndash7712
@browndash7712 5 жыл бұрын
NOther CarGuy 5:14 so you know better than Ferrari who branded it that. Check what it says on dash.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
The 4 means four seats.
@myroadtours6147
@myroadtours6147 5 жыл бұрын
One of our neighbors just had one of these stolen...dude left it parked outside with the keys inside lol
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh did he get it back Ferrari got a GPS locator in the car computer
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
Is this good or porshe gt3 better for daily driving
@BatuKMan1
@BatuKMan1 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I'd get the Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S, much cheaper and also a beast.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
The Panamera is nothing like a Lusso. Dull, bland, and exceedingly boring. Every day with the Lusso is special.
@barbieandbellaadventuresby9134
@barbieandbellaadventuresby9134 6 жыл бұрын
These cars really are for the super rich, if I had 200k to drop on a single car it certainly would not be one of these. Fortunately I do not have this dilemma
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're missing out on. The Lusso V12 is a magical car.
@Daniel-nt3zu
@Daniel-nt3zu 6 жыл бұрын
If it’s not for v12, should go for porsche Turismo.
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
Hey you may I ask you a question should I get this car or porshe gt3 for daily driving
@_dan_here_
@_dan_here_ 6 жыл бұрын
In white, a bit dirty, and in this spec - This looks like a 60k car.
@peterknight7880
@peterknight7880 6 жыл бұрын
For me the absence of 4 wheel drive defeats the point of this Ferrari.
@HesteBremse
@HesteBremse 6 жыл бұрын
Somehow I get your point - on the other hand it is still a Ferrari and a GT - Other GT´s (""like it"") also comes with RWD and are praised for it.
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 6 жыл бұрын
I guess its better than a Mercedes station wagon but that is not saying much.
@duncanpitfield1212
@duncanpitfield1212 6 жыл бұрын
Is it still called GTC4 even though it doesn't have 4 wheel drive? Surely it's a GTC Lusso T
@AlejandroP1980s
@AlejandroP1980s 5 жыл бұрын
4 seats I think
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroP1980s correct.
@hendradi3031
@hendradi3031 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer V12
@stephensugay7964
@stephensugay7964 3 жыл бұрын
I love how it’s dirty. Hahaha
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 6 жыл бұрын
Looks terrible in white. Also, it would have been nice to have heard the engine taken over 3000RPM at least once.
@Vincent_Gambini
@Vincent_Gambini 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I’m just not feeling the love on how this engine looks let alone sounds. Ferrari engines and engine bays are supported to be things of stunning beauty. The V12s are. But this V8 found here and the Portofino? It looks too generic and too plasticky. It’s not supposed to be this way. Not on Ferraris.
@aycyoyo
@aycyoyo 5 жыл бұрын
That car needs a v8 that sounds like a v8 and not a double four.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
It just needs a V12.
@rubenobadia7924
@rubenobadia7924 6 жыл бұрын
It's not 602 hp Sr it's more 681 bhp. 👍👍
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. The V12 is 681 bhp, the T is 601 bhp.
@neil1jnr
@neil1jnr 6 жыл бұрын
Why bother when the V12 engine is a masterpiece
@JuanGarcia-zq5tp
@JuanGarcia-zq5tp 6 жыл бұрын
200 thousand pounds is not an everyman's car LOL.
@aec258
@aec258 6 жыл бұрын
Those air inlet clamps looks very cheap.
@nyjatt911
@nyjatt911 6 жыл бұрын
This V8 is FNE
@future62
@future62 6 жыл бұрын
V8? PEASANTRY
@hasanal-habbobi4018
@hasanal-habbobi4018 6 жыл бұрын
So then the f40 is peasantry according to your logic.
@future62
@future62 6 жыл бұрын
No, F40 is mid engined... mid engine Ferraris = V8 or V12, front engine Ferraris = V12 only. Front engine Ferrari with V8 = Maserati at a Buy Here Pay Here dealership
@hasanal-habbobi4018
@hasanal-habbobi4018 6 жыл бұрын
+future62 no you are cherry picking. If mid engine can be v8 or v12 then so can front engine ferraris. And you are no one to say otherwise.
@future62
@future62 6 жыл бұрын
Hasan Al-habbobi When was the last FF v8 Ferrari before the California? I'll wait
@hasanal-habbobi4018
@hasanal-habbobi4018 6 жыл бұрын
+future62 Doesn't change the fact that a turbo v8 does not equate to peasantry by any stretch of the means at all. Not even for ferrari...drivetribe.com/p/the-history-of-turbocharged-ferraris-d0KHlROORAeOPMA_lPQ-ig?iid=OqerM6x3RLW3edhhGZkDyA where the engine is located doesn't change the fact that turbo engines nor v8s are not peasantry
@askformoreinfowhichyouwont7510
@askformoreinfowhichyouwont7510 6 жыл бұрын
Nice nice. I bet million dorrar price tag and wont get 0to60 in 1.9. Nice nice
@Doupik
@Doupik 6 жыл бұрын
After seeing today's Shmee's video of V12, I can just say this T with V8 sucks.
@DuleSavic11
@DuleSavic11 6 жыл бұрын
Mercedes S 63 AMG Coupe 4matic+ That´s a long name for you and a lot better car and a soooo much better looking
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
And all it is, is a dull boring Mercedes. It will never be half the car the Lusso V12 is.
@AmericanBusinessman422
@AmericanBusinessman422 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know anything but the brochure but need to make a 6 minute video? Say all the specs twice.
@tactiletinkerer
@tactiletinkerer 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of heresy... why is it styled like a C3 Corvette shooting brake?
@HesteBremse
@HesteBremse 6 жыл бұрын
Well you might as well ask why most cars have 4 wheels. The first modern Shooting Brake derived from GM and a little later the C3 Conversion - but many other car makers adapted the shooting brake idea quite early on like e.g Volvo in 1972. Ferrari made their first FF in 2011 - So to imply heresy and saying it is styled like a C3 is quite a stretch. If you had said C7 it would have made more sense and still not been really valid in terms of styling. The only thing that can be regarded comparable is the idea of the Shooting Brake - It essentially relates to the estate cars box layout in combination with a sports car - A such it has nothing to do with styling. A a pair of pants is a pair of pants, they only differ by the styling applied and nobody regards it of much importance who made the first pair of pants, since that is a long time ago. Everything worth copying gets copied and altered - It´s sometimes called progress and unless you are the original creator and did not get your fair share of the invention calling out heresy is a heresy in it self.
@imamhossan101
@imamhossan101 6 жыл бұрын
Man that v12 way more better than this fucking v8
@balajikarthi9040
@balajikarthi9040 6 жыл бұрын
"Turn off the auto" and make some noise..
@Agentxphile
@Agentxphile 6 жыл бұрын
i'd feel like a shitter driving a v8 of this over a 12.
@kee360
@kee360 6 жыл бұрын
auto car has great car journalists. motor trend unfortunately just the worst comedic relief ever.
@okumonux
@okumonux 6 жыл бұрын
db11 v8; yes. gtc4 lusso v8; no.
@aml8997
@aml8997 6 жыл бұрын
Come on Autocar! This test was soooo boooring!!...Two of the best cars in the world and you are trying to be sensible....leave that to the owners driving them, take them fgsakes! to the limit instead!! No more to say...
@SamuraiGuitar
@SamuraiGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
4:07 Answer: a Ferrari v12.
@louispeeters5529
@louispeeters5529 6 жыл бұрын
Matter courage critical bigpoiq group rifle apartment until pleased intellectual justice.
@Alejoblocks
@Alejoblocks 6 жыл бұрын
Nope
@Nismoleb89
@Nismoleb89 6 жыл бұрын
It looks like shit, the f12 is the best looking Touring Ferrari ever.
@adrianswan2709
@adrianswan2709 6 жыл бұрын
Nismoleb89 but this didn't replace the F12 the 812 super fast did.
@hendradi3031
@hendradi3031 6 жыл бұрын
Shit what? this is the best looking shooting brake on the market.
@paulthomson9709
@paulthomson9709 6 жыл бұрын
Nismoleb89 even the f12 isn’t particularly good looking , if your on about best looking Ferrari’s ever you got the Daytona , 275 , 250 lusso, to name but a few all gorgeous cars
@untouchableali
@untouchableali 6 жыл бұрын
But it's so ugly
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 6 жыл бұрын
This engine is just pathetic. Who would buy a latest but detuned V8 for that price? An M5 or E63s is more practical and will out sprint it for half the price
@Higginz-wk9rl
@Higginz-wk9rl 6 жыл бұрын
Honfy Lam I doubt they would outsprint it. It's a GT it doesn't need the same level of tune as the 488. If you want more power there's a V12 version. Those other two cars are cheaper for a reason.
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 6 жыл бұрын
Higginz1220 the m5 does 0-60 in 3.1s and the E63s does it in 3.2. Wouldn’t you think a 200k brand new Ferrari need to easily out run a family sedan with 4 doors, big boot and about half the price?
@Higginz-wk9rl
@Higginz-wk9rl 6 жыл бұрын
No. The 0-60 is one aspect of the car and one aspect of the performance. You're talking fractions of a second and haven't mentioned the fact this car tops out at 199mph. The interior is beautiful and luxurious and does that without acres of dark, oppressive colours that seem to make up the majority of German interiors. You could easily option up the Merc to match this price - check it out if you don't believe me. You would also find the Merc and BMW wouldn't hold their values as well longer term - because they are just not as special. Everyone owns Mercs and BMWs these days.
@Kaipeternicolas
@Kaipeternicolas 6 жыл бұрын
I felt asleep during this extremely boring review.
@kungfucow547
@kungfucow547 6 жыл бұрын
You know, bragging about having ADHD is never a good thing. You "felt" asleep? Better pay more attention in class kid. But with your ADHD that's not going to be easy. Go watch some loud clown "review" their tuned cars so that you can remain "excited". Something tells me you have some issues if you need to whine about a "boring review". Cretin.
@dangrbitch
@dangrbitch 6 жыл бұрын
twin turbos???? they should be burned at the stake for heresey!!!!
@BMW_G81_M3
@BMW_G81_M3 6 жыл бұрын
Max Kors Sure, because the F40 was terrible because of the twin turbos...?
@dangrbitch
@dangrbitch 6 жыл бұрын
coulda been better with a real engine.
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 6 жыл бұрын
Max Kors, No need to. we can see what's coming out of it right here in these comments. :)
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 6 жыл бұрын
Max Kors, lol you're so mad. Tissue?
@dangrbitch
@dangrbitch 6 жыл бұрын
no thanks.... sniff... sob.... i don't know why no one likes me....
@Sandouras
@Sandouras 6 жыл бұрын
Looks bad and is a bad GT 4 seater. The steering wheel is gaudy and reminds me of a PlayStation wheel. Buy a Panamera or something else FFS.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 3 жыл бұрын
Jealousy is a cruel mistress.
@paulthomson9709
@paulthomson9709 6 жыл бұрын
What an ugly car!
@dangrbitch
@dangrbitch 6 жыл бұрын
all these new cars are worthless. They're just iphones for the road, dumbed down for the ppl who can't drive or even understand the point of real cars.
@Wishwader
@Wishwader 6 жыл бұрын
Max Kors Which car do you have? And did it come supplied with the starter crank?
@petercavellini3232
@petercavellini3232 6 жыл бұрын
Green eyed monster me thinks......?
@petercavellini3232
@petercavellini3232 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see all dirty, not a Garage Queen......
@mubblemann
@mubblemann 6 жыл бұрын
Max Kors Says the kid who has never seen one, let alone driven or even owned one. Shut the fuck up noob.
@dangrbitch
@dangrbitch 6 жыл бұрын
At the moment, 2009 v12 vantage. and a C6 Z06. Thinking bout gettin a 2000 Dodge Viper and tricking it out a bit. Going to look at it right now. All three cars are not faggotmobiles with wussy ass turbos and fucking paddle shifters and tons of other electronic shit that drives the car for you. I don't know ONE serious car person that doesn't share this sentiment. I've been racing cars and bikes since I was 8. The new cars suck ass. That's why Porsche was forced kicking and screaming to bring back the manual for the GT3. That's why motogp racers like Rossi, and others hate the electronics in racing because it's ruining the sport. F1 sucks now too. The tech's gone way to far and misses the entire point. It would be like having a golf ball that never hooked or sliced, which they can do. But they're banned. Or a computer guided basketball or jetpacks for the sprinters. Or a microphone that makes everyone sing like a fucking genius. It's lame. Nothing wrong with a period of development. Like Pianos or violins. But they've pretty much remained unchanged for a long time. and for good reason. Cars reached a high point years ago. Now, they're sucking pretty bad.
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