Ferraro and the OverDrive boys debate each Canadian team’s best fighter all time | OverDrive

Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan and Jeff O’Neill from the comforts of their homes are joined by TSN Hockey analyst Ray Ferraro to debate who would be the best fighter all-time that should represent each Canadian team on TSN’s All-Time 7 Project.

[@jordanmccallum8132]

For like smaller Sample Sizes, McGrattan and Carkner good picks for Ottawa, But as a Sens fan since the early 2000s. Neil was the heart and soul for his entire career.

[@oobespoons]

Dave Brown in Edmonton as well

[@HabsCanada1]

Calgary era Sandy McCarthy = Nailz!

[@LorenzoSCC]

CGY - How could you forget Sandy McCarthy! As well, not a lot of games in the NHL but Brian McGrattan! Was anyone tougher in the NHL than Brian McGrattan? Don't think his fists could fit inside boxing gloves if he tried. Another guy who was absolutely underrated tough and played a regular shift - Engelland. Lastly, really tough guy who wasn't around long was Eric Goddard.

[@jacknone1564]

McGrattan played 317 games over 10 years. I’d say that’s a pretty successful career for a perennial 4th liner. Godard played 335 games over 8 years. Both of those guys are well over the average NHL career. He also made the list during a commercial break.

[@paulthompson8793]

I love Domi, dude fought some monsters without a second thought, but that being said I think Clark was the best for the Leafs.

[@mrbiggs36]

Clark was great because he could score goals and fight. But if we're talking just a pure fighter. Domi probably gets the edge because of the frequency of his fights.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

In my opinion Clark isn't eligible because he was a power forward. They were talking about ''goons'' and ''monsters'', or at least that's how the discussion started. I'm going with Domi for the Leafs.

[@BlueNoseParaCanoe]

Dennis Vial for Ottawa should be a mention

[@brentgarner]

Big Ern? Feels like he should’ve got a mention for Calgary

[@freedomsufferer]

What about Belak?

[@jamesgreen2897]

Flames also had Goddard and mcgratten who where pretty good at fighting

[@justawinddown]

Winnipeg had Domi, Shaun Cronin, Jim McKenzie, Jim Kyte and Gord Donnelly.

[@AlexLewish]

Canucks Rick Rypien

[@michaelalwood2868]

Thank you Noodles for mentioning Kevin Mclelland. I might be the only guy that feels this way but in my opinion if the Oilers didn't add him to their lineup they might not have won their first Stanley Cup. He was actually a pretty good hockey player and tough. He scored the only goal in game 1 in the 1984 finals against the Islanders. If they don't win that game I'm not sure they would win the series.

[@Mattoilers97]

domi was the best he even fought the fans from the penalty box

[@dblack74]

Wow didn’t think this would happen

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

Lyle Odelein was with Montreal for 7 seasons. Topped 2300 career PIMs. Dave Manson is another interesting name, but he only played a bit over 100 games with the Habs. Almost 2800 career PIMs.

[@ArniePorter]

Toughest is different than best fighter. Small guys who always answered the bell, fought out of their weight class and lost to some heavyweights were tough but not necessarily the best fighters. Tiger Williams and Wendel Clark come to mind. Another great example would be George McFee when he played for the Rangers. 5’10” 170 lbs. but man could that guy throw em.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

*George McPhee

[@65moonwalk]

Arron Asham dont forget ,absolutely drops Jay Beagle,Asham didnt mess around tough dude

[@justawinddown]

One of the best at switching hands

[@ozzydo2314]

I personally think the chris Simon slash to ryan Hollweg throat was worse than the stomp.

[@Bigrig72]

Winnipeg Jets. Jimmy Mann Kyte. Domi. King Cronin Manson. Tkacuk.

[@53rdand3rdShows]

Google Tie Domi runs from Luke Richardson lol Orr gets our vote for best Leaf fighter.

[@lapoose325]

Holy smokes.. As a leafs fan seeing that for the first time that is embarrassing. Has he ever been asked about this or tried to explain himself?

[@HookedTorontoFishing]

agree

[@2Jim2u]

Debating what the toughest groups to join are: Mr Hayes you referenced a Seinfeld quote and one of the group's buddies got a new area code... I'm referencing Elaine's new area code conundrum and why.she doesn't get phone calls, it's long distance across the street.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

Hayes says at the end that they'll keep it ''the last twenty years'', which would mean 2001 - 2021. Yet they keep talking about players who played in the 80s and 90s. Most mentioned didn't even play past 2000, and basically all of them were at the very end of their careers at that point.

[@bufford5483]

Playing Midget hockey in the late 60's during a game between Stouffville & Sunderland, players and coaches were fighting at centre ice. Management turned the lights off and cops were called.

[@hockey_all_star5895]

Orr? Over Clark, Domi, and even Martin

[@freedomsufferer]

Belak!

[@pNcChronic466]

Sometimes I wonder if they know anything about hockey

[@mitchread5156]

Canucks: Rick Rypien, Gino Odjick, Tiger Williams

[@davidianson1182]

Don’t forget Craig Coxe

[@wellyforpm]

Odjick is obviously number 1. Then Brashear, then rypien.

[@wintersfamily1233]

Wade Belak

[@zalapski9399]

Winnipeg: Dave Manson, Keith Tkachuk,

[@danh5810]

Domi too.

[@HabsCanada1]

Jim MacKenzie.

[@justawinddown]

Absolutely Jim McKenzie and no to Tkachuk.

[@wellyforpm]

Vancouver 1. Odjick 2. Brashear 3. Rypien 4. Tiger Williams 5. Tom Sestito 6. Dan Cloutier

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

Yes, Turgeon was the guy who stayed on the bench. Some say that's why he is still not in the HHoF to this very day.

[@mrobviousp.o.t.o1875]

Rocky Thompson.. was a beauty

[@justawinddown]

He was an animal

[@ryancliff4988]

Dave brown for Edmonton and McGrattan for Calgary

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

R.I.P. Gino Odjick

[@aliciaamlin215]

Who else loves hockey 🏒

[@aliciaamlin215]

Who doesn’t 🤨

[@goaustongoleafs4414]

If you don't why are you here

[@giantnamekiandende8988]

O mailed it it here

[@generalroro21]

rip vancouver

[@donovanjd3]

the best thing about this segment was the fact that O'Neill barely said a word.

[@thomashill6347]

I would like to see a change in the POINTS given in HOCKEY games, to spread out teams and put more presser to win in regular time. 3 POINTS for win in regular time 2 POINTS for LOSE 2POINTS for overtime win 1 POINT for LOSE 1 POINT for shot out win NOTHING for LOSE , I think it would be better for the game.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

Imagine wanting to give the same amount of points for losing as for winning in overtime or the shootout (not ''shot out''). You're obviously an imbecile.

[@keepingitsimple88]

Domi, or Wendel. Belak was also a beauty.

[@thefutureofsoccer5226]

Calvin Renton Darcy Tucker

[@craigborth8047]

TheFutureOfSoccer nah tucker was an agitator not a fighter, he was a bitch

[@ry4nx]

@@thefutureofsoccer5226 lol tucker was a wimp

[@freedomsufferer]

Belak for sure and Wendel could and has taken anyone he wanted to

[@justawinddown]

Forgot Dave Brown when he played for Edmonton.

[@chrisnewby5713]

That guy was a wolverine, you look at him now and you'd think he sells waterbeds

[@justawinddown]

@@chrisnewby5713 I think he was the heavyweight champ for a while when he was with the Oilers? He got one on Probert when he was in Edmonton

[@christophercarrigg3775]

Chris nilan used to beat up all my dad's friends growing up

[@zalapski9399]

Not on a Canadian team but Kocur is hands down the scariest fighter of all time.

[@deadlves]

The Kocur brothers and Clark brothers grew up together. All from the same tiny sask town.

[@looper451]

Id argue Derek Boogard was the scariest goon the league had ever seen

[@zalapski9399]

Buddyyouwantoutside I’ll have to look up his footage can’t remember many of his fights.

[@deadlves]

Buddyyouwantoutside from sask as well

[@deitznuts3306]

Kocur played a game for Vancouver

[@lukelang7193]

Sens ray emery

[@emmalawlor7344]

John scott

[@TFthecreekboy]

Ottawa it's McGratton Carkner Neil Chara

[@jacknone1564]

Winnipeg had Randy Carlyle, Gord Donnelly, Tie Domi, Jim McKenzie, Jason Doig, Shawn Cronin, Kris King, Dave Manson, Bryan Marchment, Jim Kyte….

[@jawzgamingcrew9859]

flames Brian McGrattan

[@ontaranormal2261]

What about Wade Belak

[@neilm2794]

If you're going to title it "best fighter" Domi doesn't enter the conversation; he was a punching bag with a thick skull. Nilan lost far more than he ever won as well. Semenko was as counterfeit as a $3 bill -- he just jumped guys because he couldn't fight. Best fighter means the guy wins most fights. CAL -- Hunter, McCarthy, Berube. VAN -- Brashear, Odjick WPG -- Kyte, Jim McKenzie TOR -- Belak MTL -- Laraque OTT -- McGrattan EDM -- Laraque, McIntyre

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

Simon stomped on Jarkko Ruutu.

[@zacmilne743]

RICK RYPIEN

[@justawinddown]

Wrong weight class

[@gfear24]

Flames, where was Nick Fotiu? How do you not include Chara on the Senators simply based on him rag-dolling Bryan McCabe

[@sharpshooter7743]

What about tucker

[@skyborne80]

Tony Twist in Quebec.

[@nadaduo1765]

Devane for the Leafs, he would destroy Domi

[@Peezster]

Winnipeg = Shawn Cronin possibly.

[@k-8844]

Brian Mcgratten

[@k-8844]

never mind 18:00

[@atrealdino6667]

Andi patrrillo overdrive

[@TG-nhl]

Rick rypien

[@domenicsimsiris2921]

Clark

[@felixgagnon4807]

That dude really said Montreal doesn't have as long of a history? Corson, Ferguson, Laraque, Richard, Odelein, Mario Tremblay... Get your head out of your ... Toronto bias

[@romangagne5842]

Nilan, Ewen , Roberge

[@hockey_all_star5895]

Félix Gagnon Toronto>Montreal

[@Xscape128]

Sheldon Souray

[@goaustongoleafs4414]

Their headquarters are in Toronto. They can't be biased?

[@ry4nx]

@@goaustongoleafs4414 doesnt matter where you're located. that's just a half assed excuse to justify bias

[@jacobsalvo823]

Mcgratten?

[@mikehynes6506]

Yup the guy who only played 143 in Ottawa when Neil played 1026 in Ottawa

[@ghostspectre1861]

Domi ran away from fights. Wendel Clark put you through the ice.

[@jerrythomas4457]

Domi was a douchebag but I never remember him running away from fights

[@bernieb.6879]

Cronin the barbarian in the peg

[@keepingitsimple88]

Would not want to fight Tucker

[@zalapski9399]

Lol I wouldn’t want to fight Mats Sundin- any pro hockey player would probably thrash a non pro.

[@gabegoodmurphy6265]

Dustin Byfglyn.

[@Parksy1818]

Domi was the best no doubt

[@foxtrotwhiskeytango9472]

Kris king Winnipeg Jets

[@johnnyboypv7]

No love for Wade Belak?

[@larrysprinkler1673]

Wendel Clark went them all

[@scottandrew8906]

These segments are why TSN will always be far superior to the annoying other sports network in Canada.

[@cadenh.6413]

Hi

[@samlampert5934]

3rd

[@davidanchovies3340]

Winnipeg = Gord Donnelly

[@davidanchovies3340]

Jimmy Mann A young Dave Manson

[@iamNotHereB]

Kordic, Clark and Orr. Domi ran from too many fights and went after a lot of non fighters which offsets some of his huge fights

[@iamNotHereB]

@Ty Block there is, on KZbin, video of Domi hiding behind a teammate to avoid a fight. He took on McSorley, Probert and other giants, but then did some chicken shit like that every now and then. I didnt say he wasn't tough or a good fighter, just not as good as Kordic, Clark or Orr.

[@thewoodsareburning5627]

I was at the Leafs/Flyers game where Domi wouldn't fight McCarthy. I recall there being a personal rift between the two where McCarthy said something about Domi and Domi refused to fight him until he cleared it up.

[@michaelalwood2868]

Yeah, I remember when Brashear made him his bitch 2 or 3 times in the same game and Domi was complaining that Brashear wasn't being a good sportsman.

[@zekearmstrong3342]

Surprised ray isn’t talking about how fighting doesn’t help your team and you shouldn’t do it and how he used to dangle all the time and score on breakaways. Dude literally ruins the NHL Games every time he opens his mouth, I truly wish I could mute just him lmao

[@shawny2scrawny]

"best fighter all time" is pretty representative of a fighter's brain post-career

[@teemuarola8236]

Best fighter Who hasnt made suicede or have drug problem? But Who cares? Only what is important thing is that you guys get your fun and thrill To watching fights.

[@teemuarola8236]

Noodles is hyped that someone has hit 79 times other human In To face👍 this is so sad To listen.

[@lapoose325]

They've made leaps and bounds in terms of player safety in the last few years. Stop your whining.

[@danh5810]

Do you enjoy boxing or UFC?

[@pNcChronic466]

It literally was part of the agreement to becoming an nhler since the beginning of the game but only recently was it changed. You don’t like the fighting don’t fucking watch the sport. Suicide and drug problems don’t come from fighting it comes from poor management and improper health care. Many of the suicides were from players that retired during the 1900s.