FFpower 2000w LiFePO4 UPS Lithium Solar Generator Power Station Review

[@marys.8552]

Went to FF site through your video and got free shipping and paid 992.68. This will be great for emergency situations or remote work sites! Love your videos and have watched for two or 3 years.

[@donwalker3683]

And - he’s got the best theme music on KZbin… Thanks for your stellar presentations!

[@RDuude]

I picked one of these up back in July for $1255.99 for my van build and couldn't be happier about it. Powers everything I need.

[@sflotr]

Same here. We have this unit and love it. It is smoking fast recharging from the grid. I love HT’s reviews because he does all the testing metrics. 1700watts grid + solar charging is no slouch. The price with discount code is awesome. 😊

[@RDuude]

@@sflotr Agreed, HT is so thorough with the testing and review!

[@kevinw6282]

Compared to the Bluetti AC200P, I'd keep the $300 in my pocket and every time I have to plug it in to the wall smile that I'm not dinking around with a huge power brick. Thanks for doing these reviews. If it get monotonous and repetitive, I for one understand and am still glad you take the time to do these.

[@R2D2G7]

And also it will charge for under 2 hours, not 5 hours like bluetti!

[@parkerazz4385]

I always enjoy the testing. Makes it easy to understand battery capacity and out put.

[@seeker32084]

Bought this last month. arrived with 40% charge. It charged quickly to 100% using electric plug (110). I ran a tv (55") for 12 hours and still had over 60%. I plugged in a rice cooker and ran it to 0%. Then charged it to 100% in just under 2 hours at 1100 watts.. I shut it off completely (hold power button 3+seconds) let it sit for a week and still at 100%. I read somewhere on the internet that it is not good to store at 100% , so I discharged it to 75%. ... Hope this helps. I recommend it for the price and # of cycles it will allow. (I paid $1350 on Amazon + Tax).

[@junkerzn7312]

I really love my old CN505. The firmware has always been pretty good, in particular when operating in permanent settings as a UPS. I readily choose my older first-generation CN505 over the double-blasted GoLabs junk which decides to turn the AC off after a period of time for no reason. The firmware also works better than the Bluetti (EB55) with regards to handling power failures and droops. If the Bluetti decides to stop charging because (for example) the DC input goes out of bounds (but doesn't drop to zero), it doesn't start charging again, ever. Manual intervention is required. Its algorithm doesn't reset unless DC input cycles all the way down to 0V. The CN505, on the otherhand, recovers from power sags without requiring any intervention. The only issue with the CN505 was that it had 1st generation specs in terms of DC input ranges and output wattages... not their fault given how old the design is. I'm really glad you tested out of bound voltages and recovery on this new unit. It makes me want to go out and buy it to replace the Bluetti's that I have to baby along due to their poor firmwares. sub-10ms switching means that they are probably switching on the zero-crossing of the internal inverter which is required when switching between two AC sources that are not phase-synchronized. 60hz = 16.6mS duty cycle with two zero-crossings. So each zero-crossing is 8.3mS. Then it comes down to the relay switch time which the firmware has to lead a little. So this firmware appears to be quite smart, which I really like. Also happy about your mentioning the fan use and noise. The Bluetti and the GoLabs are terrible... the fan is either off or it is on and noisy, with nothing in the middle. And also really happy about 13.6V DC output. That's awesome. It is exactly what it should be whereas the GoLabs output is too low at 12.3V. The GoLabs can't drive many devices (let alone at sufficient power) because the output voltage is too low and often drops below the cut-off voltage of the devices plugged into it. Damn.... I love this FFPOWER review. Ok, the capacity isn't the best. But damn it... everything else is perfect. It takes care of everything without any of the quirks of the Bluetti or the GoLabs. If I had any complaint about missing features at all on the P2001, it's that the AC charger doesn't have the ability to charge at a lower rate... so I can't put two of these on the same house circuit (for example) because they could blow the breaker if they both tried to charge at the same time. -Matt

[@user--PM]

I bought my FFPower P2001 when Jasonoid got his. The first unit I received failed to stay on, and was returned. The second unit I was told I could keep incorrectly, and I modified it making the fans stay on all the time, which kept the unit from shutting off. But customer service wanted the power station back so I shipped my second unit back as well. About a month later they sent me the second power station back repaired, and I haven't had any trouble since. The fans are indeed very quiet, it has temp probes on the heatsinks to measure the temp, and if it's cool enough, the fans aren't even running. On the other hand if you are pulling a lot of watts and you are outside on a summer day, the fans can crank up much louder. It may have 2000wh of cells, but they must have a low efficiency conversion or higher reserve. As such I treat this as a 1500wh station. With the promo code it makes it attractive.

[@Mindventmofficial]

I have this for 1.4 years and its still working

[@candidcapture]

Your review presentations are super informative and well done! Thank you for all your efforts and keep up the great work!

[@Stonehombre1]

I just bought this EXACT generator for $950 including the $50 coupon. This is an excellent generator.

[@shanewitty1309]

Thanks for the review. I picked one up for my camp up north and powered my frig, oil heater 750w and all my devices. Impressive!

[@nathanborders1716]

Runs a standard house refrigerator for 24 hours, a UPS feature, 5 year warranty, and lower cost. I like it. When the electricity from TVA stops, would like to change it from my multi-fuel generator for about 4 hours and run the rest of the day with the FFPower. Thanks for the review! Are there any other 2k watt solar generators out there with the UPS feature? Thanks

[@latymz]

Yeah quite a few. AC 200p by Bluetti along with Ecoflow to name a few. It's becoming a standard at this point.

[@NOLAgenX]

Love this thing. Bought it last year and it runs anything I throw at it, including a vacuum.

[@alfabsc]

Thanks for your excellent review. I bought a P2001 with a different brand name two weeks ago. I really needed the UPS feature to keep our refrigerator running when the power goes off. I tested it and after 3 hours the battery was 80%. This is a normal sized fridge-freezer. Looks like the battery will keep up for 10+ hours. The only complaint I have is the 50 pound weight. I like the storage in the top.

[@clarencewiles963]

Remember your buying battery also. The more battery the more $$$. That why we see cost per watts given.

[@edwinmedina4338]

What is UPS feature? Sorry I'm learning myself because I want one for daily use to replace my 1880w gas generator

[@alfabsc]

@@edwinmedina4338 UPS stands for Uninterruptible Power Supply. My refrigerator doesn't lose power when line power goes down. My guess is we can keep the refrigerator going for 10-12 hours.

[@clarencewiles963]

Over voltage is fantastic. The fact that if your on the edge of maxed out you don’t destroy it. And it comes back on. Thanks again for your detailed information. Your work has been the reason manufacturing has improved. Test, test, and report. Even the Morris Code.

[@macmcleod1188]

Was happy to see an *appropriate* Bluetti battery ad on the channel. It was actually interested and I was interested in it. Most ads, I just watch the countdown button til the skip ad button appears. I watched the entire bluetti ad, then clicked the link.

[@GarethZoeWildcamps]

You mention the 12 volt output is regulated at 13.1v but then show it dropping to 11.7 volts. A regulated output means it should stay at the same voltage. This unit therefore does not have a regulated 12 volt output. Some appliances (like a diesel heater) will shut down if the voltage drops below 12v. Just something to bare in mind if using this for a camper van.

[@davidschaefer5293]

Thanks!

[@trumpingtonfanhurst694]

It's output capacity takes it down to almost a 1500, which is where it's priced. Nice inverter, and good UPS is always a plus.

[@Sylvain3342]

One thing that I think must be with the feature UPS is; to lower the state of charge to 50% or 60% for long time usage. LiFePO4 or NMC battery would be happy to stay at that SOC.

[@successfulldreams]

The UPS test is much better than the fan you were plugging in to test that. I had made a comment on a previous video about this (I'm sure I wasn't the first or the only one to note it) and I'm glad to see you took that feedback... great testing!

[@Cue881]

I bought one of these last year and I love it. I just bought another one. The Okitel appears to be the same exact unit.

[@baconwhiskey821]

Great review Professor! It seems like a well featured sogen. Seizure mode lighting.. hilarious 😂

[@susanstrickland6774]

Smart and humorous. Always a great, honest review. Great buy, especially with your discount. Odin is precious. 🙂👍

[@luidiaz118]

Hi ,Hobo I like to thank you for introducing me to solar generators, I bought a ep500 bluetti From indiegogo last year ,4 weeks ago the screen stopped working I contacted them for warranty and asked me to send it back so I did they received it 2 weeks ago but don’t answer my emails and I don’t know if they are going to send me a replacement their customer service is really bad I’m starting to think I lost my $ 3,200 I paid, please advise.

[@tigrenoir17]

Never heard about this brand before, but I must admit this model is really interesting for the price, and for the UPS function. I'm looking to buy a pellet stove, but I know these thing needs a bit of electricity to run. I found it can use from 30W per hour to 1Kw a day. So, with this solar generator and it UPS function, I'll be able to keep my house warm in case of power outage. So it mean it will be enough for most of the power outage we have during winter where I live. And the weight will allow it to use it for camping and drone day trip. If I remind, the Bluetti AC200Max doesn't have an UPS ?

[@g-whiz286]

I wonder what would happen if one tried to charge the FFpower (1100 Watts max) with the ALPS propane generator (rated for 1000 Watts). Would the generator go into overload and shut down or would it just charge this unit at 1000 Watts instead of 1100 Watts? It would be sweet if I could run the generator for just a couple hours to fully recharge the FFpower.

[@teslacybertruck750]

I just ordered one, with a 300w solar panel for around 1,300. I dont mind if the battery capacity is below average, the 3500 cycles it offers is incredible, that is nearly 10 years of Daily use.

[@Drmikekuna]

Great review, as usual. Thanks so much for providing useful information. I have been a part-time van dweller for the last 4 years and depend on a mid-size power station to run my life. when possible I'm all-electric (induction hotplate, mini-electric pressure cooker, dorm microwave) and I'm much more interested in a good inverter than a lot of bling features. This sounds like a great value (especially with your discount). Sadly, I'm disappointed with the mediocre capacity tests. I think the fast AC charging is great, and I can only fit 400 watts of solar on my roof, bo I'm not bothered by the 500-watt solar limit.

[@michaelwilson2497]

Does this allow pass thru usage while charging?

[@terryrodbourn2793]

Msn do I enjoy your de.ivy on these power stations! You hit the capability right on schedule!

[@molonewolf9336]

Does the 12v cig plug still cut power off after a certain time under low voltage like a running 12v fridge/ freezer?

[@sonniecheeba3998]

Hi Hobo, how does this compare to the Pecron E2000lfp? I don't think the Bluetti is even worth looking at anymore.

[@markkepley4131]

Which would you pick? Pecron E2000LFP or the FFpower 2000w LiFePO4?

[@danielguyette9162]

Looking for the right solar generator to power our Harmon pellet stove during power outages. Will be using your wealth of info to find "the right one". When the power goes off, a little smoke comes into the house, and when power goes off during the night, I have to go outside to start the big propane unit. Not fun on cold windy snowy nights. Thank you for your info!

[@HOBOTECH]

Any sogen 1000w or higher can handle a pellet stove.

[@danbanh3092]

Can you tell me if you leave the solar charging cable in with the unit off and the sun comes up in the morning slowly, at very low voltage, does it start to make a clicking sound and the power button flash until you push it to turn it on before it starts to charge? And in the late afternoon when there isn't enough voltage going in, it beeps and clicks until you unplug the Anderson charging cable. I'm using the Oukitel P2001 version of this and that's what it's doing. It is not convenient that I have to be there turning on and unplugging the cable every time. Thank you.

[@briancook6158]

That's a really impressive system for the price!

[@bootmender]

If you ever decide to move to Roswell I am coming to get you with a straight jacket. 🤪👍👏👏👏💥👍

[@Aranimda]

I'm looking for a quality LiFePO4 AC power station that is designed to be permanently used as UPS for PC equipment. It must have 230v true sine-wave output. I was interested in the EcoFlow Delta / Delta II but they do not really back their UPS functionality for PC/server use. Switching time is too slow for that. I'm currently using an APC Smart-UPS 1500 with lead-acid batteries. It works fine as UPS but battery capacity is very limited. A good AC (solar) power station with LiFePO4 batteries can run a beefy PC for many hours.

[@HOBOTECH]

Do what I do. Run a Sogen before the real UPS. When the power goes out the Sogen will keep running the ups until the battery dies. Switching speed won't matter.

[@VernonWallace]

What type solar panels do you recommend for max charging? Thank you

[@davidbezayiff1566]

Pardon my ignorance... What size are the Anderson power poles? What power sources (dc-dc converter, perhaps) other than solar panel(s) can connect to the 500W Max input 12-48V 15A input? Just wondering if it is practically possible to charge the FFpower 2000w without an auxiliary (house) battery but rather using only a vehicle's starter battery and smart isolator.

[@vanmasterflash7153]

Love your videos hobo. Warranty doesn’t mean much when companies like these guys open shop then fold in less than 5 years.

[@donhyatt8034]

Bluetti will give you 2 years…5 years is a strong statement of quality. I bet FF power will be around for 2 years and many other companies have rebranded this exact unit with 2 year warranty. I like 1100 watt charging without a brick as my generator will only need to run 1/2 the time if it was raining all day.

[@Xbot4Life]

is it safe to drain this to 0% and did you test the power drain when you activate the AC/plug (by pressing the mains button) without anything plugged in. Mine has a power draw and seems to be around 20w which is ridiculous.

[@windsurfertx1]

I appreciate your quality reviews. Good Job! Why are the actual kWh capability so much less than the advertised capacity? they all seem to be that way.

[@HOBOTECH]

Because there is always a loss when converting electricity.

[@DF5152]

Good day, thanks for all the videos. They are very informative. I have a specific need and see you have done some testing with amplifiers. I have very dirty power in my are due to the close proximity of a saw mill. I need one of these generators that will take power from a wall clean it up and output it to my Amplifier. I see that this one may be a good choice can you recommend any others? They should be at least 2k in wattage?

[@traveldreamer4616]

Great review. I enjoy watching. Very informative.

[@R2D2G7]

Very good review! By the way, how do you think should this station be upraded by hand by adding bypass ground(PE), from input socket to output sockets? There is even some preparetion fot this inside, but it isn't done.

[@WWarthog798]

Looks like the display on this unit is MUCH better than on the "Bluetti", whose display is pretty much unreadable in a higher light environment (like my living room...).

[@pip5461]

As you said, there are lots of companies out there that offer this range of power, but most, if not all, being Chinese, how would the warranty hold out if/when they change brand names.

[@ericklein5097]

Can anyone tell me why the DC conversion is so bad? Are they using a 4S LiFeP04 battery that will end up being boosted almost right away since the pack settles at 3.4*4=13.6V which is the regulated voltage out of the outlets? Would the USB-C PD output be even worse since the 100W PD outlets are boosting the pack up to 20V? I tinker with electronics, 18650's, powerbanks and USB-C PD and I don't think my DC DC converters perform this bad. I'm guessing Hobo needs to pulls the cells out and test them to see if they are B grade/used/not what they should be.These should be roughly 80Ah cells correct?

[@ericklein5097]

@GeeKIller Where did you see 51.2V? The DC Outputs are all regulated at 13.6V so you wont see battery voltage through them.

[@ericklein5097]

@GeeKIller yep the larger the difference between input and output the lower the efficiency and that inefficiency is turned into heat. Good buck converters can max out realistically at 97% and often perform around 92% but whatever they are using is terrible to be so far under Most power stations of that size are 7S Lithium Ion or 8S LFP or some variant of 48V. (12, 13, 14S Lithium Ion, 15,16S LFP)kdfbs.

[@Ozem_Israel]

Is that xt60 out enough to start the diesel heater?

[@thomascrompton7775]

I've been looking adding a b230 bluetti battery to my ac200p but at 1299.00 I'm having problem doing so. a new ac200p is only 1399.00 or something like this unit. sane battery compasity and I can just plug the 2nd unit into other unit for pas through charging. for extra 100 bucks it can also run as extra stand alone unit. like that this one allows 1000 watt charge but appears battery output is below average. I guess wait till bluetti drops ac200p even lower in price.

[@HOBOTECH]

AC200P is $1599

[@thomascrompton7775]

@@HOBOTECH Halloween sale going on 1399.00. If over it will be again black Friday if not lower. That u it should be getting discontinued.

[@HOBOTECH]

@@thomascrompton7775 Interesting because on their website it's not showing on sale www.bluettipower.com/products/bluetti-ac200p-2000wh-2000w-portable-power-station?aff=2

[@thomascrompton7775]

@@HOBOTECH yes just checked. As you likely saw they had a Halloween sale all week but likely ended. It was 1399.00.

[@nomaddavestinyhomes2363]

Looked on your site and I can't seem to find it have you done anything with super capacitor batteries

[@markcosens1]

There appears to be a few companies rebranding and selling this product, apheriy, oukitel to name just 2. I wonder who actually makes it and how good the 5 year warranty actually is?

[@woppini]

Great review as always! I do wonder if the company will be around for the 5 year warranty. Bluetti although more, might be a more stable company in the long run. Who knows... this unit though is on my radar.

[@Bacnow]

Great points! It’s on the outer ranges of my radar! I love that the enclosed batteries are getting better while price points are becoming more affordable!

[@Yukonjackman1]

@Hobotech any thought why my ecoflow delta 1000 would. Not. Have 12 volt output or USB power

[@StellanLarsson]

Thank you sur! Can it be charget vid DC power from a wind turbine? I am looking at one from VEVOR.

[@FJMJR]

Stupid question but will this be able to run my tv cable box and router For a good amount of time ?

[@seasmi]

How many watts it drains in standby mode? Turned on but without any loads or any inputs.

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the review and entertainment.

[@theyclash1984]

Anyone know if this has low temperature charging cutoff? I never hear that mentioned on the solar generator reviews. Also FFPower website states max operating temperature is 104F. So does power output stop at that temp? Also, manual states storage temp max of 113F. So is it unsafe to store in a vehicle in summer when internal vehicle temps would well exceed that?

[@edwinmedina4338]

That's a good question! Here in Texas it gets hot

[@loucinci3922]

Good review. Thanks for sharing

[@SeauT]

Thx for the great review.

[@WildCaptures]

Nice UPS protection! 👍

[@sflotr]

My fridge stays plugged into FFPOWER all the time because we have occasional power outages and don’t want food spoilage.

[@SmoochieMcgoo]

The best use case I think is for weekend warriors, but when not being used in that function, it functions perfectly as a UPS. Even though this thing is far from perfect, that price + UPS + capacity is perfect not for peppers, but for normal people. This is specced perfectly for anyone that wants backup power for a residential fridge, a residential chest freezer, or for a home office. I hope you continue working with this company. I am curious to see what they will offer next. If this is their first official product after the 2020 "issues", I am willing to bet they'll only move up from here.

[@cpoul]

How is customer service? What is the inverter draw when idle?

[@itzelli]

Not bad.

[@derekio]

Something i wish you would test is the low power auto shutdown. Im fairly new to these things and perhaps im missing something. But on most of these, they auto shutdown if not using 1w on dc or 3-5 on ac. While i get the reasoning, it does no good if you are running your whole camper off these. Go to turn on a light at night...nope..you have to go turn the box on first. Or..a cpap on ac. Is there a workaround? Besides just leaving something on

[@douglaswindsor120]

Why would you ever use AC to power a cpap machine what brand do you have that runs on 120 I've had two different brands and both use a power brick to change from 120 volts AC to 12 volts DC so when I go solar I'm buying a 12 volt plug

[@RickMidds]

Hey HOBOTECH, Love your videos and I am a subscriber. Is there any way you can do a video on “ How to Use an Ebike Battery to Help Power a Solar Power Station” ? To explain what I am requesting is: I just purchased a Bluetti EB3A..Thanks to your review.😉👍 I wanted to use one of my Reention Dorado 48v 21ah Ebike batteries to extend the electrical output of the EB3A powering it through the 12v solar port. Is this possible? I couldn’t find anyone on KZbin that has done this but there are plenty of videos on how to charge an Ebike battery with solar using a buck converter which you didn’t recommend in one of your video’s and I’m not interested in doing.

[@weswalker1208]

Great review Tom. Looks like a pretty solid budget minded rig. But how long will it Flash on extraterrestrial mode? Looking forward to January to see the new RV.

[@johnwilliams6958]

Bad news for me. Purchased for sump pump UPS. Unfortunately UPS only allows 1100 watts. Not expected since is 2000 watts on battery. When plugged in to AC you can only use 1100 watts. Please add high wattage UPS test. And test wattage when on AC power in your reviews?

[@gnothiseauton8684]

Can this be used in uk for residential freezer please

[@kevink9365]

Anyone know why this model only wants to pull around 10 amps on the solar input? I thought it would max at 15amps (as specified), but it doesn't seem to want to go there.

[@Banagal]

Interesting for sure. I already own a 2000W so I'll pass for now. The price is great! Thanks for the review.

[@JimMcPartland]

Do you think the numbers will improve with time??

[@HOBOTECH]

This doesn't have a way to update the firmware so no.

[@jsfbay1]

Great news, right now (April 19,2023) the hobotech code brings the price down to a few bucks less than $1,000! Pretty great deal!

[@RemoGaggi]

Does anyone know if this will stay on when hooked up to a DC fridge that cycles on an off?

[@lighto999]

Whats the max Amps it can charge? Can i use a 50A DCDC car charger from Redarc?

[@HOBOTECH]

I show in the testing 10A

[@CupidinColorado]

Could you please elaborate what a XT60 output is? What does it connect with?

[@HOBOTECH]

It connects to whatever you want.

[@CupidinColorado]

Ok, with an adapter?

[@Wijkkie]

The VDL HS2000 or Aferiy 2000 is the same.

[@jimhager8583]

Hobo does anyone make a unit without all the USB ports? Looking for only ac plugs and cigarette plug

[@thomasyung9162]

Please post videos of your new RV’s electrical system.

[@TedJohnson240]

Can this power station run a portable AC?

[@captaincurt3180]

Tom, are we going to see the new RV buildout in a video?!

[@HOBOTECH]

Probably

[@macross9321]

Does anyone know the brand of that variable voltage charger??

[@joefaretta4324]

nice review

[@gwbuss]

What should you store the battery at 80 percent?

[@HOBOTECH]

60-80% at room temp or below

[@gwbuss]

Thank you

[@allenr.schultz5339]

Hey Tom happy Thanks Giving. I've been watching you since your early Roadtrek modifying days. I've been missing your on the road videos; & modifations. While I enjoy your product testing I'd like to see you out on the road more. My puppy died last spring (17 1/2). I suppose your kitty's not around either? I hope to be on the road with my Roadtrek soon. By the way how's your brother? Take Care AL

[@peacefulprepper2402]

Excellent review.

[@LL-ly6fu]

Can anyone help me? I can’t get output to run anything. It’s brand new. Fully Charged! Light comes on.

[@voyagerman22]

Still waiting for someone to tell me the point of DC5521 connectors. Most power stations have them, but never see a demo on what you can use them for.

[@HOBOTECH]

CPAP machines, led lights, battery chargers, the list goes on.

[@voyagerman22]

@@HOBOTECH thanks, I looked on Amazon trying to see what DC5521 accessories were available, but didn’t find much.

[@CupidinColorado]

Next time could you please show us how it would plug into a van? Perhaps a Sprinter…

[@vandela177]

Where can I get a turntable like the one you have here?

[@HOBOTECH]

My Amazon page

[@vandela177]

@@HOBOTECH Thanks found it and done

[@robertdconner]

Wish capacity was better. Why would you buy this over the AC200? Isn’t price the same?

[@HOBOTECH]

AC200P is $1599

[@robertdconner]

@@HOBOTECH At the moment but Bluetti had a sale two weeks ago for $1299. Black Friday deals likely incoming. Seems like if I can get the AC200P with more features I’m not sure what their advantage is here.

[@powertrader1]

BAHAHAHAHAH the ending theme song! Cheers!!!!

[@peterpowell6168]

i got a 55.20 pigtail with cigarette lighter female to power my setpower fridge! on my Oupes 1200

[@allenr.schultz5339]

Wow, when do we get to see/hear about your new RV? Are you selling your Roadtrek? They're going for good money now. Good Luck & Merry Christmas. AL

[@HOBOTECH]

Patrons already know about it. I'll do some videos next year. Otherwise it will be in Quartzsite. I probably will sell the Roadtrek but it needs mechanical work first.

[@DesmondNoel]

Wow I love it just more battery capacity and it's world best and may 120 volts

[@astrobob9432]

Any chance you could review something other than a PPS, just for a change? Love your stuff.

[@HOBOTECH]

I literally just reviewed a battery and I've recently reviewed refrigerators. What else should I review?

[@staffordgarland9226]

Kinda hilarious that you have a willing FF to double Fist.