Fiat 600e, jeep Avenger, Citroen e-C4, Peugeot e-2008. All of these cars are on the same platform and with 51 kWh battery and 156PS engine are very efficient. I saw on 1001cars channel comparision between many of these cars and the best was e-2008 with smaller rims. Bjorn mentioned Skoda Enyaq with the new engine. Taking into consideration its size and power this car is even more efficient than Stellantis platform
@pavelblaha52436 ай бұрын
For realtime monitoring, carscanner seems better than ABRP in its current form. Carscanner already has a profile for 600e.
@evaddicted32246 ай бұрын
Morning from the UK and thank you for the video. Mentioning Enyaq in this video made me think and realise how efficient Enyaq is really. I have been doing motorway trips on UK motorways recently, close to 200 miles, with my Enyaq 60, and been averaging 3,9 to 4,0 miles per KWH which translates to 160wh per kilometer. I think Enyaq is the closest car efficiency wise that gets close to Tesla based on all Bjorn's range tests I have watched.
@yegorrussalev66146 ай бұрын
Closest so far was the BMW i4 edrive40, but given the fact the Enyaq is an SUV, it is definitely a very efficient car.
@nicolasfrankboehmer22406 ай бұрын
the red line unter the capacity is the "Helga is getting a heart attack if you go any further down this scale"-limit
@HenkSpankK6 ай бұрын
The red line is the last 1/8th of your battery. It's visually comparable to the red indication on Peugeot
@_kj26 ай бұрын
ECO mode reduces the AC big time. Or even turns it off. At least with my 2020 Corsa-e.
@ugurakay6199Ай бұрын
thnks very useful test. eC4x diffrnce mainly dpnds on tire size i guess, 215vs195
@stefking61126 ай бұрын
Very nice Bjoern. I have the new Corsa with same drive train and have a stunning consumption of 140Wh/km (25°C, 120km/h, Sport Mode, 17" tires). Against Stellantis communication my Corsa (one of the early builds from Feb. 2024) also has the big battery with 51kWh netto, what I can clearly see in car scanner. I have the same voltage / SoC values as you show in ABRP. It looks like on the upper end it only charges to 97% and takes the rest as a buffer for recuperation. It shows 400km range, which makes no sense regarding the big battery, theoretical it should be more possible (the bigger Astra has 414km range WLTP). So on the lower battery end I need more courage to check the behavior of the BMS. 😅
@danisantos32556 ай бұрын
140Wh/km at 120km/h? Not even in your dreams. Come on man, not even a Tesla can do that 😂😂
@stefking61126 ай бұрын
@@danisantos3255 120 is not the average speed, it´s my max. Average was 92 km/h, 188 km distance, 14,2 kWh/100km = 50% used SoC
@Igors_mind6 ай бұрын
Coasting downhil,.. less mass carries less momentum, also cw affects
@martijnkosters90246 ай бұрын
Exactly. Has nothing to do with efficiency, maybe a little bit of rolling resistance but a bigger rock will just roll down the hill faster.
@AltuğAk-r2v6 ай бұрын
Fiat has wider tires
@marekwitek74946 ай бұрын
Wider than witch competitor? Skoda Enyaq?
@vprwave6 ай бұрын
With 215 wider than the Citroen eC4x (195) to which Bjoern compared it in the table.
@AltuğAk-r2v6 ай бұрын
@@vprwave same battery same engine but wider tires yes it can be the difference
@bjornlmusic6 ай бұрын
Thanks Björn for all the entertaining content! I have a question for you for which I have not found any answer on google for: I wonder how normal battery degradation affects the useable battery capacity and that maybe cars with bigger buffers (I have an E-Tron GT) take some of it. If f.ex. degradation after two years is 3%, maybe the useable capacity goes down less. I think this might be different between car types and sizes of each of their battery buffers..?
@vhol936 ай бұрын
Interesting
@steffenfrkjr14246 ай бұрын
On what type of phone do you run ABRP... and do the same ODB II.. work with Android, and iPhone ?
@_kj26 ай бұрын
He uses Android. But both apps work on iOS as well.
@steffenfrkjr14246 ай бұрын
@@_kj2 I Know the APP work.. BUT do the same ODB dongel work.. for LEAF spy, is it not the same..
@johniooi39546 ай бұрын
@@steffenfrkjr1424 If you go on ABRP website they say which dongles work
@tridruankham26576 ай бұрын
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@3ChFlash6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video Bjorn… I have a question: why this car is efficient? It needs 25% more energy of a Tesla M3 even it’s 60kg lighter and so much smaller in space 😅😅😅
@Colt16v6 ай бұрын
Problem with small batteries is that the cars are smaller but not much more efficient, if at all. Did a longer stretch on motorway yesterday in around 20 degrees with my Polestar 2 LRSM on 20" wheels, avg speed was 108km/h and consumption was 19.8kWh/100km.
@bekirsivri806 ай бұрын
please review BYD Seagull 🙏. there is not much real life review on youtube. 👍
@tesla-spectre6 ай бұрын
At 90kmh it is ok but man, they all blow up consumption beyond 100kmh. And 120kmh is really necessary for long term travel.
@PierreSimonsson6 ай бұрын
the reality on most roads in norway is 70-80 Km/h :D so not realistic to much there.
@tesla-spectre6 ай бұрын
@@PierreSimonsson Yeah but everywhere else you do long distance mostly on highways and then 120-130kmh consumption matter a lot
@sargfowler96036 ай бұрын
Totally agree. This is very poor especially compared to the Citroen.
@PierreSimonsson6 ай бұрын
@@tesla-spectre also true
@PierreSimonsson6 ай бұрын
@@sargfowler9603 well i gusee the citroen is the sam Citroen is Stellantis also rigth?