Fiat Turbo GRENADES! (feat. Michael Jackson)

Welcome to the FIAT SMOKE SHOW!
Today we have a 2015 Fiat 500 Abarth 1.4L Turbo that at 67k miles decided to transition its gender to a Naturally-Aspirated model with DIRECT OIL INJECTION.
Let's swap out the BUSTED turbocharger with an aftermarket Chinese unit, fill it up with oil, and see if Michael Jackson appears from the smoke :D
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Ivan

[@SuperDd40]

the smog OK sticker in the windshield is hilariously accurate.🤣

[@pigeonsil240sx]

i past smog with flying colors with blown ring lands and smoke pouring out the exhaust back in the early 2000s,maybe because engine burning oil isnt releasing the wrong gasses?

[@TheBry_Guy]

"There is SMOG?" CHECK! OK then... :)

[@robpeabo509]

Very true!

[@watsisbuttndo829]

Used the same measuring equipment as diesel VW,s

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

Came to the comments to say this but Hawkeye here beat me to it LOL.

[@mikec81]

The 'smog ok' sticker while billowing a giant cloud of smoke going down the driveway killed me lmao

[@stevieg_306]

seen these type of failures on turbo cars so many times here in the UK with smaller engines whether diesel or petrol (gas) engines, it usually all comes down to lack of oil changes, the owner extending the service interval or private sellers and dealers resetting the oil service counter without actually changing the oil

[@tm199100]

I would say on top of this, just giving it the beans.. which if you have this car, you will hoon around for sure..

[@RicksterMW2]

Or they use cheap crappy oil, I only use Liqui Moly in my Fiesta Ecoboost.

[@stevendegreef93]

@@tm199100 College kid driving it 🙄

[@gregmckinney6977]

I've also seen it happen, specially with plain bearing turbos, that people come right off the highway, park and shut the engine off right away. Cokes the oil, scores the bearing and seizes it on the shaft.

[@davidbonnett5441]

I'm sure you did but did you check the oil feed and drain pipes for blockage? If not, you could be heading down the same path pretty shortly. Most failures are due to poor oil condition or no oil. P.s not a dig at your process, love your work, just a tip for someone that possibly hasn't done one before.

[@petepeabody8905]

Ivan, Your resourcefulness never seems to do nothing but amaze me. I really enjoy you explaining what the vehicles issues are and how you attack them. Thank you and GOD bless...Pete

[@ClaudeSac]

Keep your god to yourself please.

[@petepeabody8905]

@@ClaudeSac GOD is our creator and Jesus Christ is our Savior. If you don't believe in the all mighty it will be your doom. However is is love and will always have a spot for anyone who chooses. I will pray for you....Pete.

[@ClaudeSac]

@@petepeabody8905 so you sound like one of the good guys, awesome. Thank you for praying for me so that I may one day become like you, I appreciate it! I will return the favor and wait patiently for the day that you will abandon your god; for the truth cannot be hidden forever, for no man. Keep in touch pete!

[@scrappy7571]

Seen this plenty of times working in gm dealerships. Replaced plenty of blown up turbos on the old Grand Ams with the 2.0 , and now it's the pos 1.4L cruze. Turbo's don't like lack of maintenance.

[@buckaroobonsi555]

Yes plenty of oil changes are a must on any Turbo. I prefer synthetic but even back in the 1980's when Castrol GTX 20W50 was the norm on Turbo anything you had to do the maintenance. Even worse on a diesel when the turbo seal blows and you get a run away diesel!

[@timewa851]

these cars, 2015, they are now old. and paid off. Tiny engine, tiny lifespan. Go get another.

[@ua7pyro591]

Grand AM rip

[@EggyGTO]

​@@timewa851 its a tiny car too.. but 140hp form 1.4l engine is a lot! I m pretty sure the owner drives it aggressively and .. the result is this.

[@Texasmade4444444444]

Yeah in a guy with a cruze and the turbo went out under 60k miles yeah he warrantied it then traded it in

[@CarlSutton]

Love the “Smog OK” sticker on the windshield.

[@ALEX-xd7ko]

Hes going to be replacing his cats real soon 😬

[@volvo09]

If they survive I'll be shocked... But I'm sure Ivan let the owner know what is likely ahead... This is obviously a cost restricted repair. Hopefully it works out for the owner. I hate people being screwed by catalysts in otherwise good cars that are on a budget.

[@RobertHancock1]

Hard to say. If it wasn't driven like that for long then it may survive. Just might need to drive it for a bit to cook the rest of the oil deposits off..

[@anthonynofi4871]

the sticker on the windshield states "SMOG OK"

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Oh the irony haha

[@RobertHancock1]

EPA has entered the chat lol.

[@GregoryGlessnerViolin]

That's because it was smogging really well 😄

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Good one Ivan! The last turbo I replaced was on a truck with a Cummins Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) engine. The shafts seals were bad because no one had changed what looked like a factory catch can and filter for the PCV system. The filter was partially plugged. TURBOS ARE NOT CHEAP! It's better to change the engine oil way before the OEM recommends changing it. Another item with turbos. After driving the vehicle, let it idle for 5 minutes before switching off the engine to let the turbo "cool down" and reduce it's RPM'S. Remember. When the engine shuts down, the turbo is still spinning and there's no oil being delivered to it! Never shut off the engine after fast or aggressive driving. Let the engine idle for a few minutes. Turbos spin at many more thousands of RPM'S than the engine and they need LOTS of clean fresh oil!

[@ghoulbuster1]

Turbos nowadays come with a coolant line to prevent that, it should not be necessary to do that if you're just driving normally on the streets.

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Ivan, Hadn't seen smoke like that since my youth when they would fog for mosquitos. 🙂 Nice repair without taking off everything service manual mentioned. You and your family stay safe.

[@JackS425]

These Chinese turbos are actually pretty good for being cheap. I love those little fiat abarths they’re so fun to drive, it’s like driving a flea

[@WookiRahh]

they also do a punto version that i had call the abarth punto esseesse was a really nice car garrettt turbo from standard otherwise its the ihi chinese

[@t.s.racing]

I have been building, racing, tuning, designing, dyno testing Turbocharged applications my entire career. 1- religiously change your oil and filter with the correct grade, and premium quality oil and filter. 2- EVERY time before turning your engine off, allow time for the Turbocharger to spool or slow down before shutting off your engine. Shutting off your engine shuts off the oil supply to the Turbo, which can still be spinning 10,000-100,000 r.p.m.s. Following these 2 very basic guidelines and your Turbocharger should easily last as long as your engine. Thanks Ivan, for allowing me this opportunity to perhaps help a few of your subscribers. Excellent video as always. T.S. RACING

[@t.s.racing]

There are devices you can buy to allow you to leave your vehicle idling for a set or adjustable amount of time, and you can lock the doors and leave. They're worth every penny of the small investment. Of course use common sense when leaving your vehicle in a public place. Also, many modern day Turbocharged cars have liquid cooled Turbochargers, ie., the same coolant your engine uses. If your coolant/anti-freeze is beyond its service limit, not only will it not cool your engine properly, it won't cool your Turbocharger, AND AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION as well. Read that last part again please. And yes folks I understand that it's the radiator that actually " exchanges " the heat.

[@ckm-mkc]

My Jag blew it's turbo at 55k. I blame long oil change intervals + start stop + diesel + city driving. The combination is deadly. It was fixed under warranty before I bought the car at 57k miles. The total cost to repair was somewhere around $17k as they replaced everything from the manifold to the tailpipe. I disabled start stop and the oil change interval is now 3-4k miles instead of 10k.

[@sewing1243]

How long do oil filled Catalytic Convertors last?

[@mikefoehr235]

Great question

[@milantrcka121]

Wondering about the same. Right now they are toast. Maybe the oil will burn off? Or maybe not. Certainly they are not liking it.

[@citichap]

YES! That's the next one to fail as well: SOON

[@bobbg9041]

Not long, but cat thefts are up.

[@mattmaxon7783]

did an installation of a replacement CNC lathe that made the turbo shaft. The whole machining cell was there and I observed the entire machining, assembly, and testing operation while we tested our CNC Lathe, very cool to see the turbos in action

[@jamesburton3274]

Hi Ivan, love the channel. I have seen several turbo failures where the oil drain line has been blocked starving the turbo of lubrication, usually due to poor oil hygiene. High crankcase pressure has a similar effect. It is imperative to take the turbo oil drain pipe off and prove it is clear and the oil feed pipe as well.

[@kastooMcFry]

When you started that thing, it had me laughing to the point of me starting to cough, one that just wouldn't stop. Maybe psychosomatic on my part, seeing that much smoke. Fun fix. Thanks for taking us along, Ivan.

[@elrobo3568]

NHTSA has received a complaint about a turbo granading but I found no recalls for that year (not running the VIN) Great job and I am very glad I am retired!

[@dustcommander100]

NTSHA probably just requires that no impeller blades leave the housing. That's how it is with NTSB and jet engine parts!

[@krisallen7198]

I owned a 2013 dart with the 1.4 turbo, ran good lots of pep. Traded it off at 80,000 miles never had any turbo issues or really any engines issues to speak of.

[@bigal-ox9jw]

WOW.. brings back memories, had a 1980 Buick regal ,3.8 litre turbo , think was late 80's , I was with a couple friends away for weekend trip, prior to trip I remember doing something under hood with vacuum , it started smoking on return trip (160 kms) gad to stop every 30 minutes to add oil, smoke show whole way home, took out engine and replace it later with used engine.

[@terrallputnam7979]

Ivan, I am impressed with your knowledge of auto electric and diagnostics. I had a friend in Cincinnati that knew how to really diagnose auto electric problems. Unfortunately he retired and no mechanic in Augusta Georgia seems to know how to diagnose auto electric gremlins.

[@arthurcunningham530]

You're saying Chinese I'm saying it's probably OEM which is probably chinese-made anyway but without all the markings on it.

[@sd906238]

The after market turbo couldn't be any worst than the OEM Fiat turbo. I believe in buying OEM parts except for Fiat OEM parts.

[@NZdiagnostics]

The original part is a Garret turbo, USA company.

[@ferrumignis]

The aftermarket part can easily be worse than OEM, and usually are. Turbos fails due to abuse and lack of maintenance.

[@KeithHiebert]

The inside of intercooler needs to be cleaned of material from the broken fins. Intake piping needs to be cleaned also. If the engine ingests the fin pieces, it could cause a lot of damage.

[@aeroman5239]

Yup. I have a '17 Infiniti Q60 Red Sport w/VR30 engine & twin turbos. Had a mild whistle under boost - dealership replaced both turbos AND the engine under warranty because the impeller bits could have made it to the intake. The intercoolers, throttle bodies and intake manifold were cleaned before getting re-installed on the new engine. This Fiat engine might be toast from the upstream carnage.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

It's fine. The intercoolers act as filters HAHA

[@brianw8963]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yep,the intercooler oil bath secondary air filtration system. Great concept. 😄

[@alangaudry724]

​@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics question how come the cat isn't screwed from the oil ?

[@huntnfishnuts5880]

That's very similar to the turbo set up on a Chevy Cruze 1.4, I see a lot of failures with them but have not yet seen a broken impeler, usually underboost codes with broken wastegate, I have seen lots of Ford 6.0 and the older dodge Cummins turbos wear out shafts and leak into the exhaust. That was something to see that much oil coming out the tailpipe.

[@Jonesey30000]

Nice work Ivan. I snapped an impeller shaft on my 1.9 TDi 2006 VW Golf. Happened at about 160,000 km (100,000 mi), but unlike the Abarth it didn't dump oil into the exhaust. The turbo on a Golf is on the back of the engine, so you have to remove right hand front wheel and drive shaft to get it out.

[@eddie5484]

"It has all the right..." Gubbins. The word you need there is Gubbins.

[@disgruntledfaerie]

That pick trick is great. Never would have thought of that in a million years.

[@logicalguy488]

Exhaust won't rust inside now.

[@jgeorges3061]

IVAN, give thump up before even watching the video yet because i now this will be fun/awesome to watch thanks for what u do brother.

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

It is difficult, if not impossible, to train drivers to allow a couple minutes of idle time to allow the turbocharger to cool down before shutting the engine down. Manufacturers should have an electric oil pump that can run after the engine shuts down.

[@kellyd887]

I wonder if that oil bath it took will result in premature failure of the O2 sensors or the catalytic converter ?

[@ferrumignis]

Very likely. Ivan really should have removed the exhaust and drained it with that much oil in it.

[@fredsalter1915]

Looks like my dorm room back in '89!!! LOL

[@ToyotatechDK]

Not sure if I missed I’d, but I’d definitely empty the intercooler as well.

[@ferrumignis]

I'd have drained and flushed the exhaust system as well, that was far too much oil just to leave to burn away. I somehow doubt that cat will pass the next smog test.

[@ToyotatechDK]

@@ferrumignis i agree

[@AVC-Works]

His oil light came on and he still drove two miles..... Yep! 👍

[@andywrites2141]

Will the converter survive such an oil attack?

[@kevinbosse8866]

Usually in that case you always recommend replacement of the catalytic converters because if they clog that can be potentially dangerous for the engine. Plus i would have cleaned that exhaust with alot of degreaser and a water hose 😮

[@stagggerlee]

If you rinse that thing out you have to call the local hazmat team to clean the driveway... The car will probably be at the pick and pull in another year

[@kevinbosse8866]

@Dan Bentch right but i work at a shop with a industrial oil seperator in the drains. Never do that at home hahahaha

[@tonyfox1434]

Love the "Smog OK" sticker in the bottom of the windscreen!

[@rambleon2838]

The funny part was that Ivan wouldn't trust the made in China studs but the turbo.

[@jerryking2418]

Gives new meaning to the term ‘smoker’. Nice repair job.

[@iainball2023]

This is a very very common story here in the UK. we have an abundance of small highly boosted engines nowadays. this failure probably stems from the previous oil leak. the turbo's are hugely sensitive to oil pressure, and are the first thing to fail if the oil pressure ever gets low. I think the driver probably ran it until the light came on before having the leak repaired, causing damage to the bearings in the turbo, the bearings then wear out rapidly untill the comressor wheel touches the compressor housing, which breaks the shaft.

[@garydotson2277]

Luckily, the owner was close to home. I had a similar failure on a freshly re-man turbo, on my diesel pick-up, several years ago. Unfortunately, I was not close to home, resulting in a very long, late night wrecker ride. The vendor replaced the turbo and all was good after that but I paid a pretty steep wrecker bill. We also made a serious smoke show, especially passing through the toll booth, before we found a lot to pull into. We used our AAA to the max, that night.

[@CanesTech]

"And now for our feature presentation" ... you crack me up!

[@ProblemChild-xk7ix]

Cats will be the next to go after all that oil through the exhaust!

[@calholli]

For the little Chevy Cruze 4 banger they are only two hundred and twenty bucks or so, for the entire exhaust manifold/ turbo/ wastegate setup. The turbo looks identical to this one on the wastegate side. They are known to crack the housing at the wastegate port.

[@ryan_etzel]

20:14 68mph.... Ferguson Township PD has entered the chat 😀

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

37 year Centrifugal service technician. I've seen plenty of wrecks of impellers and broken shafts. And air compressor rotating element typically won't spin much beyond 65000 RPM. Unlike an engine turbo that can spin in excess of a 100,000 RPM. More often than not the wreckage is so severe it's a crap shoot as to what caused the wreck, unless the monitoring equipment data logged a sequence of events leading up to the crash.

[@geraldmcfadden2270]

Even the sticker on the windscreen Smog OK!!

[@steveharvey1876]

Ivan, 1996 Turbo Porsche 39k miles, turbo seals bad exhaust full of oil same smoke screen. Shop neighbor thought building on fire. 10 hrs labor. Dealer wanted 12k for replacement. Cheers!

[@dennypoole7815]

Thanks really enjoyed watching

[@maxhenry1977]

For a pea sized engine the little booger sounds pretty good.

[@terrallputnam7979]

FIAT means Fix it again Tony! My first car was a FIAT Spyder. Ran only intermittently.

[@ajautoanddiesel8576]

The early Ford, 6.7 diesel we’re breaking turbo shafts. TSB was a reprogram and new turbo for the problem

[@Javelin3o4]

Mt 2013 Dart has pretty much the same engine which a lot of the 1.4's would get a under boost code, thankfully mine happened while it was still under warranty so it got the updated turbo installed.

[@duggy788]

i think thermal shock would be the main cause of premature failure not allowing the turbo to warm up from cold and also not allowing it to cool down properly.

[@wyllie4961]

Lol, Zip Ties N Bias Plies would be proud of you, love the “Smog ok” sticker:D

[@eddiehuff7366]

So...the 2 bolts the DEALER left out??? Could that have caused the turbo to torque off line and damage itself?

[@carsten4594]

Thank you for the post-mortem.

[@TheBry_Guy]

when you care enough to install the INTERNAL rust control system, not just the outer.

[@allencrider]

I'd love to have one of those because they're so much fun to drive, except the ones with an automatic.

[@dustcommander100]

Amen to "except the automatic". Why bother with a turbo if you have a slush box?

[@fixitall2368]

All that oil had to kill the cat. Did he make his appointment with you yet 😂

[@IBenZik]

Last guy put new turbo on and started car and reved it to the limit on first start.

[@stephenbevan5475]

With this and the transmission solenoids having problem exactly after 100k miles right when the manufacturer warranty expires is not a coincidence; They’re engineered that way, that’s why dealers do 7500 mile oil changes and transmission fluid that lasts the “lifetime” of the vehicle because they don’t tell you that lifetime actually means until it’s not covered under warranty anymore.

[@BOPotstill]

Nice repair, often a quicker way to do the job and beat book time. I swear I could smell that thing when you fired it up !!!

[@WillKlaver]

.. i had a turbo let go on a Big Truck merging back into the Traffic Lanes just leaving Memphis when i drove Dedicated Nissan for USXpress..towed back to the Memphis USXpress Terminal where they not only replaced the Turbo but but the Intercooler as well due to Shrapnel..

[@vwwrenchie314]

New series starring Ivan as James bond car has a Built-in smokescreen

[@r.weaver3769]

One of those newfangled bluetooth turbos...

[@frnkjones40]

I would've pushed that thing outside and closed my garage doors.......then started it. You would've been given life for driving that thing in the state of California. 😆 🤣 😂

[@daveunbranded]

Might have been worth pushing that one outside first.

[@gomd3rd]

Still waiting for this chick to show up. I was promised a smoke show!

[@ivanolsen7966]

in sports mode ..... i was waiting for the BANG !

[@geraldharkness8830]

yeah i saw that..made me smile!

[@IBenZik]

@18:00, no mosquitos next spring. 🙂

[@riblets1968]

🤣😂😆

[@r.weaver3769]

Mosquito Control...Poor cat! Nice job, Ivan.

[@gavinralph2910]

common issue on the Abarth here in the UK....its not a matter of if it breaks....its a matter of when it breaks....small over stressed high revving engine....turbo is working hard all the time. Turbo shaft gets a hard time on petrol engines with a butterfly (throttle plate) causes intake impeller to want to stall but exhaust still rotating....hence shaft gets a hard life!!! not an issue on diesels.

[@ericdziadosz7145]

Sad to say, I think that turbos are pains anymore. Only worked on stuff with diesels, so yeah, turbos are mandatory on them.. On average, for example a Cummins Tier 4 emissions package turbo (say like after 2010 ISX-15,) not only did it get a turbo, but more often got the DPF and Oxidation catalyst replaced as well due to oil in the exhaust (imagine the DPF and DOC with about 6-8 quarts of oil in it.) Didn't smoke from the exhaust, but exhaust sure got restricted pretty quickly. And cost? Holy smokes (no pun intended). Price for a reman Cummins turbo, and worst case scenario, a new DPF and DOC? North of $12,000. New turbo raises it to almost $15,000. Not including gaskets and sensors for the DPF, and labor for all. Worst one I ever saw? Failed turbo, exhaust side filled about half way with oil, and also a failed EGR cooler, along with the DPF and DOC being replaced. All in all, spent almost 16 hours doing all of the repairs/replacements. Good thing Cummins ate most of the cost of that one, as it was still under warranty, and the DPF was considered a progressive failure.

[@donkaiser6704]

I hear Disney wants to hire you to do "special effects"!

[@BillyJ57]

It's a wonder the fire dept. or EPA didn't show up at your place Ivan. lol

[@manoloh]

So funny, filling the road with oil

[@ApexHotShot]

Ivan, Thanks for an entertaining video. I enjoyed the bonus bonus footage of the broken turbo tour of damage. But I could not help thinking there would be a Core charge associated ? … even with an aftermarket replacement. But perhaps those things are “scrap metal” by design.

[@misterhipster9509]

Close to buying one of them in the day, so cute and low priced, glad I remembered it's a Fiat.

[@goodtimejohnny8972]

It's very common on all forced induction engines on all makes and models. Mileage doesn't matter either. I've worked at dealerships and have seen failure as low as 10000mi. Lots of damage when that happens. I always recommend naturally aspirated engines unless it's a toy for the track .

[@noelcastle3986]

Another great video looks like a fun little performance car. Unfortunately typical of many small modern cars underengineered and not tolerant of leaving oil changes too long. Turbos are hard on oil and turning off a very hot engine without letting the engine idle and cool let's the oil cook and carbonise in the turbo. Not a car that you could expect to be reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles even if correctly serviced. I would lose my drivers license if I owned it ,too tempting to drive it like you stole it.

[@germanjesus]

Seafoam treatment time 😂

[@SunnySunny-jz8kg]

You did not show the part where you struggled to put the nuts on the studs on the bottom side. Had a Cat 1160 engine one time got a hole in a piston (defective) took about 2 gallons of oil per mile to get back to the shop lucky only 6 mile away.

[@jefferyedwards5003]

Looks like a commercial for Seafoam.

[@calebmohler3082]

Yea newer turbos on small engines fail pretty often. Usually a wastegate issue tho. Just had a 16 A3 with a sloppy shaft/no boost. Not uncommon

[@wanee8039]

Looks like the almost exact same setup on a mini cooper. Except the turbos on the opposite side.

[@donkeymarco]

The turbocharger should be a Garrett (Honeywell) GT 1446. In Europe the price for an original Garrett is about Euro 500 - 550 + taxes. From about Euro 600, and more, can be found new Garrett turbochargers upgraded for higher power/torque mods.

[@mikebaz7843]

That is guaranteed foreign object damage on the turbine side (normally with excessive bearing clearance they just fold the blades on the edges), the sudden deceleration shears the shaft - sometimes that's how you lose the compressor nut, too

[@erichagler7842]

great sticker on the windshield "smog check ok " ...... lol

[@TheRealJerseyJoe]

Ivan you've used up all your carbon credits for a lifetime on this job.... LOL !

[@rhiantaylor3446]

Seen it recommended that you change the oil feed tube with the turbo, just in case a blockage was the cause of the original problem.

[@frankmasters3796]

Yes AGREED read enough that pipe blockage culprit to failure.

[@akaitv6606]

My temporary fie would be to fit a temporary banjo bolt block off .

[@NVRAMboi]

my first thought was: I wonder what all that oil is doing to the CAT(s)?

[@bluejayoutpost9170]

While looking at this front end I noticed Ivan's tool box.All those stickers~Anyone here remember when we would ask angd get STD stickers...

[@bobbg9041]

Ok ive come up with a plan to remove the oil from the pipes. Brake cleaner. Just shoot 50 cans down the o2 port should remove all of it and make pretty red and white smoke.

[@boomer9900]

Geez, talking about lubing the muffler bearings.

[@job38four10]

What surprise the most is how loud that is, and isn't there a core charge on turbo units.....

[@bobbg9041]

Nice smokes just like my 57 chev.

[@moefuggerr2970]

So the chips from the intake side impeller are in the air intercooler. Apparently they have not made it to the motor yet.

[@ferrumignis]

Yet.