Fieldsports Britain - Steel-proof Rabbits

[@kevinfrancis2614]

This is one of the best shows/ videos you boys at fieldsports have done for a long time keep it up...

[@stewartfrerotte7227]

Another great show charlie . Those CWD are quite amazing thanks Paul for the explanation on the sizes and ages.

[@tastefulnude]

The issue with steel is not the patterning it’s the fact it doesn’t pack a punch like lead

[@markhuskey6757]

I've noticed the same issue here in the U.S. while duck hunting.

[@reptilianxlol934]

Lead kills more ethically. Apparently lead messes up our waters even though it’s readily found in nature. Does that make sense at all.

[@medicatedflowers821]

ReptilianX Lol yes it does accrue naturally but not in small pellets that ducks and other animals can eat, I don’t see a problem myself used steel years for ducks and have shot some ducks at great ranges it’s about putting the shot in the head not the body

[@jmkhenka]

@@reptilianxlol934 the issue with lead shot (metalic lead) is not that it dissolves into water. The problem is that many birds eat stones from the bottom of waterways, and they thuss eat lead. Lead is later found further up in the food chain. In sweden the main argument is that birds of prey have stronger acids (they dissolve alot more stuff then we do, for instance) and they die of lead poisoning.

[@ncb2734]

Yet another great video Charlie and Team. Thanks for lockdown entertainment

[@graziofarrugia]

We have a saying about loading a gun and this was the first things that my father taught me about hunting. People load guns but the devil puts it's tail in the trigger. SO ALWAYS BE AWARE WITH GUNS.

[@slomo1562]

Charlie, have you ever considered making a long form video of the beautiful landscapes FSC has recorded over the years? It could included soothing music for insomniacs or serve as a stump to explain the conservation efforts in various regions for various game and non-game animals. Regardless I do so enjoy what FSC shares. Thank you so much!

[@fieldsportstv]

Thanks - we recorded the birdsong on a grousemoor the other day and thought that could make a podcast. We also have an the full 80-minute Year in the Life of Red Deer for rent on Vimeo. We will have a htnk about your idea. / Charlie

[@paulreynolds9003]

It’s not that often we see rabbits any more in West Yorkshire and I must admit it’s a bit sad to say the least. Am 57 now and was brought up with ferrets and nets and running dogs. Many happy days out on permission with a few friends long live the rabbit.

[@raymondwilliamblack]

Shooting for 60 years and only since the introduction of steel shot have I seen so many wounder duck struggling in the water near my part of the Lough. my father used Eley grand Prix 5s and never lost a bird. Last bird of the season and it had ONE pickle in it,s head any other time and it would have had a couple of lead, other birds we picked up had broken wings and very much alike until dispatched, as you can guess I detest wounding any animal and using steel shot.

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Yes mate the good ol Grand prix in 5 done the job proper

[@joedunn6523]

CWD are amazing little deer, I’d love to see one, wrong end of the country unfortunately. Great show as always, stay safe.

[@tmac5757]

The segment on The Code of Bad Shooting Practice, these short term citizens should have their licences revoked for life, before they do harm someone else. If brains were made of dynomite they would not have enough to blow their noses. Anyway another great show fella's, stay safe and healthy, looking forward to your next show. Cheers Terry.

[@MOOSEDOWNUNDER]

Great episode Charlie and team. Something different. Regarding the idiots in the offending video, they are not British. Romanian possibly?. How do they retain their licenses and now Blighty has left the EU we need to look at who has what in regards to British standards of safety rather than going by the continents standards.

[@trevormarg]

I see the blithering buffons from the Huddersfield area have made their Video private, no surprise really, they must have recieved a shed load of negative comments, think a visit from the local FAO is a must!

[@gmaskellfarmphotography3198]

2:21 looks like his gun broke as he shot ?

[@kalosbryers7377]

I saw that too that's why he was a bit of the pattern plate lol

[@itzmilkybot5313]

Definitely broke, watched at .25 speed.

[@stewartmair8645]

It looks like the locking lugs are worn which makes the gun not lock probably and opened after the first barrel shot!

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

It does mate.

[@thomaslawrence3232]

Stop worrying about steel shot. I used steel #2 for everything from teal, wood ducks, mallards, pheasant, quail, grey squirrels, rabbits, canadian geese to mute swan. I recommend steel BB for geese & mute swan. But at 45 yards, steel #2s will take any game down. They even work on coyotes at close range.

[@tchadwic82]

Thomas Lawrence our steel loads are currently vastly inferior to the US loads. They are absolute dog crap.

[@SteveBl]

Here in the States we can use other kinds of non toxic shot, such as bismuth and polymer/tungsten. Will such alternatives be allowed in the UK? Regardless, California has gone completely lead free last year. For the smaller birds and rabbits steel works fine from my experience. For the larger species like pheasants I use bismuth. With large game with rifles I have come to prefer copper alloy bullets over lead.

[@freddietomlinson2569]

Great one guys 👍

[@shropshireladoutdoors743]

I find a mk4 fenn in a tunnel at the bottom of the feeder works 24 -7 and great results

[@WeeklyWisdomBroadcast]

For rabbits? You know that's illegal right? Fenn 4 is not approved for rabbits on the STAO.

[@reptilianxlol934]

You guys need to try bismuth so you can still use your old guns and get that nostalgic feeling but your using steel.

[@tmac5757]

Control burning plays a huge part in helping prevent wild fires, but it is not the full answer to control wild fires! just look at Australia late last year and early this year.

[@adventuresteve2400]

great video thanks man.

[@justinpaffvett3367]

Great video as usual the guys who was hunting BAD practice need educating. People like that give antis the bullets to fire at hunters pardon the pun. I started at a very young age and if your using a rifle if it's on its bi pod bolt open magazine out shot gun broken so every one knows your firearm is safe. If the police did get involved they should make them go with a keeper or experienced shooter to educate them. When he shot in to the wood I was thinking what if there Is a Walker or a deer. Where was the back stop ffs. It's not right to have a gun it's a privilege. Stay safe folks fingers crossed we will be out soon keeping the fox numbers down. Stay safe guy.👍

[@Aikibiker1]

I would disagree with the idea that owning a gun is not a right. The right to arms was enshrined into English common law with the Magna Carta. Subsequent governments and court findings have greatly eroded the right, but it still remains. The English common law was the inspiration for the USA's 2nd Amendment. The belief at the time in both England and what became the United States, was that the right to own arms was a natural right given by God and no ruler had the right to restrict it. Obviously things have changed politically, but the idea of a free man being allowed to do what he wants and own what ever he wants as long as he does not harm anyone else is still a powerful one. As for the bad examples from the video that behavior seems more the result of lack of education. Ignorance rather than idiocy if you will. The propper thing to do in my mind is to separate the young men from each other to stop them from reinforcing their bad habits. Then as individuals introduce them to small groups of more experienced shooters that can show them how to do things correctly. Young men need role models and teachers to correct ignorance, not an arse kicking.

[@justinpaffvett3367]

I agree with the not giving the kick in the arse and they do need educating. As for the right to own a gun yes I agree any normal person should be allowed to own what he wants. As if that is going to happen in the uk I would like to see hand guns come back for pistol club shooting instead your only allowed certain long barrelled pistols in northern ireland you can own a 9mm glock on mainland uk you cant. If you feel so strongly about it why dont you start a petition to have gun laws relaxed for legal gun owners. Cheers👍

[@nathancollier138]

Interesting that starlings are declining in the UK, here in the states they are an introduced and prolific pest

[@hughrose376]

The cartridge comparison would have been more use if the gun choke had been given. Nothing scientific to be seen here.

[@markhuskey6757]

Can you shoot tungsten, bismuth or other non-toxics in the U.K.?

[@fieldsportstv]

Yes - all of those. / Charlie

[@markhuskey6757]

@@fieldsportstv thanks Charlie. I really enjoy watching Fieldsports Britain. I came across it because of my interest in catapults. I was looking for videos to help with my accuracy and saw Gamekeeper John on one episode. I subscribed and I've been watching ever since. Cheers, and thanks

[@thesilentmothtrapper4373]

The racing pigeons are considered property and shooting them is damage to property just like killing any other pet . from what I remember any way.

[@colinjohnston5465]

Very interesting bit on steel shot for rabbits and I am outraged that I have nothing to be outraged about! Really good to know if you don't roll them over with the steel pellets the military grade plastic wads will take anything down with the eficacy of a depleted uranium tank shell!

[@fieldsportstv]

I'm outraged. / Charlie

[@danp6755]

Forgive me if I’m missing critical information, but wouldn’t rabbit come under “pest” and therefore not be subject to the game/lead shot issue? Things have gone quiet from the orgs but shouldn’t they be aiming for a distinction between game and pest, commercial food and personal pot??

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@danp6755 Thats an interesting point

[@colinjohnston5465]

@@danp6755 if we have sufficiently effective alternatives which are the same price or lower than lead why wouldn'tyou use a non-lead alternative? As I understand it we still need to get the biodegradable wads / shot cup right to ensure barrels are protected. If we get that sorted then steel is sort of okay in most situations unless you are shooting at ranges in excess of 35 metres.

[@danp6755]

Colin Johnston I don’t believe that “sort of ok” is ok at all. Yes, a bio wad/cup should be mandatory to reduce plastics to the environment, and I completely agree that on a commercial scale where game is processed and sold to the wider public we must maintain that market, however I feel that game for personal consumption should be shot in the most humane and sensible way the individual sees fit. I see no sense in stipulating non toxics for pests. As with any blanket ban, there will be situations where previous alternatives are better. The shooting organisations should be fighting for a sensible solution and viable scenarios for non toxics to find a middle ground.

[@richardhannah5592]

shooting racing pigeons is illegal. as they are classified as property you can actually get a cash reward from rpra if you give evidence of someone shooting racing pigeons

[@HunterMagpie]

I eat and shoot racing pigeons🤷‍♂️,, better than a woody 😋

[@SRV03101954]

HunterMagpie also full with antibiotics and other meds.

[@jannerkev]

If you have a gun licence, its a responsibility to abide by the rules.

[@silentbigsteve3429]

You should not need a license

[@jannerkev]

@@silentbigsteve3429 why shouldn't you need a license.???

[@religionispoison6838]

What country were the men shooting in???

[@fieldsportstv]

The UK

[@religionispoison6838]

@@fieldsportstv ah ok , I was not sure because they didn't exactly sound "British" .... That explains a lot but . Thanks

[@twistoffat]

in fairness, i found the video and these gusys are obvously not british so i ask how did they even get gun licences ? This group in any country would be classed as scumbags !

[@iansmith6086]

11:54 diversity is our strength I embrace it full heartedly. Thank god I've only got a little time to live. Surprise surprise the video is not up anymore.

[@henrydevin3468]

nice to see a video out missing shouting

[@RobertSmith-qs8yl]

Sorry those steel cartridges do not use biodegradable wads so they are not compliant with the voluntary ban, so pointless testing them.

[@TheSpeedGodz]

Why isn't any one mentioning the fact that steel shot kills trees.

[@tomk8312]

that's funny... in the US they tell us how much freedom we have all the time, but we can't even touch a vehicle with a loaded long gun

[@Aikibiker1]

That depends what part of the USA you are in. I have several times shot legally from inside and around vehicles in FL and CA. As part of training classes and competitions. FL also specifically in the law allows people in the state to carry loaded weapons inside cars with very few restrictions, aimed mostly at safety. Don't want a loaded pistol rattling around without something to protect/cover the trigger. However having that same pistol in case, holster(with retention device) or your glove box is perfectly legal. FL only restricts shooting alongside and across roadways. Mainly as an anti poaching measure.

[@stevenpaddybwoy]

All Asians....... they seem to be very good at doing everything dodgy.

[@baba-hx5td]

stevenpaddybwoy imagine letting them on your ground

[@jamesturner7728]

Thay do not shoot to kill it as to be alive to preform Allal and bleed it so how do thay get the licences in the first place

[@killianbergin9224]

Racing pigeons are peoples property and you can be fined and brought to court. This is terrible because if you had a farm and I came on to it with a 308 and shot a couple of your cows and the man on it would say I would be fined but they have shot my pigeons so it’s terrible there not going to court

[@SamiKhan-ky7yh]

Price km

[@michaelmaxwell5586]

Simon Whitehead's piece is interesting but not very scientific. No information about comparative numbers of pellets with the different loads or penetration (of the back board). The pattern plate test is worthless unless you know where the pattern is centred and the "plate" simply is not big enough for that. The comparison of the strike wounds on the rabbits is equally unscientific as there is no information as to range or whether the rabbits were presenting comparable targets, crossing, quartering or whatever. Did he say what choke he was using? If not another flaw. What about doing a proper test along the lines of Dave Carrie's videos, where the range is measured accurately, penetration is assessed, we know the loads and the chokes used etc.? Otherwise the information is relatively worthless and anecdotal.

[@justhairisson9519]

Stop Killing Start living! I youst to have a wilde bunny they did nothing to you!

[@justhairisson9519]

Im crying:(

[@welsworthy]

Surely the bad practice video features Europeans , they might not even be in this country. So all talk of law breaking is a none starter .

[@daveedwards3531]

The original film was titled “English pheasant shoot” or similar, the car reg was British and the warning signs were in English. They weren’t of European ethnicity.

[@welsworthy]

David Edwards didn’t sound like they were speaking the queen’s English

[@daveedwards3531]

William Elsworthy their ethnicity isn’t the problem, while shooting in the uk they represent uk shooting, we don’t need anymore targets for the antis.

[@iansmith6086]

You should have to speak English fluently to get a shotgun licence

[@brendalittle3192]

Gross, dont you have anything else to do?

[@paulreynolds9003]

They look Asian to me take note farmers be more careful who you give permission too.