Zenos E10 R vs. Radical SR1 vs. Caterham 620R vs. Ariel Atom - The FULL Challenge | Fifth Gear

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[@craigson5]

7:17 A HONDred!

[@ricardoloureiro7137]

Craig Page iiiiiiiiiiu

[@ricardoloureiro7137]

Uuuu

[@craigson5]

@@ricardoloureiro7137 phone in your pocket?

[@robb-smith6328]

So the lotus understeers because of the light front end? Wouldn’t the Atom also suffer from the same thing? Even worse with the engine in the back?

[@Olivergoodchild2]

Why eliminate the other cars though and just test them all? the radical is literally a pure bread track car so would have cleaned up on track surely?

[@placesbramlepoops]

Should have used a points system instead, would have liked to have seen the other cars on the track.

[@lastdimestudios]

They didn’t want a non road going car to win!!

[@tedcalouri2694]

@@placesbramlepoops They should have just tested them all at every test. For those of you interest in driving around cone based obstacle courses, these are the results (are ANY people interested in that?)

[@mry82]

Yep, I wanted to see them all!

[@siler7]

Pure bread? I wouldn't call it part of the upper crust, but it certainly doesn't loaf about. It would have toasted the Caterham by slicing through those corners.

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

What a completely stupid test...! Why eliminate the cars like that...? This show is stuffed...

[@mry82]

Yep, I wanted to see them all!

[@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142]

@Agent exactly - when you perform a test like this then why not taking trunk volume and mpg to the test as well and then, in the end, a Golf wins. A Radical delivers on aerodynamics, it is not a drag racer. Very sad since these are all 4 very exciting cars.

[@maksimhapeyenka2435]

@@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142 agree, make it like you just give them less points and then calculate all the points, dont just disqualify

[@jameswalker2116]

Agent Coulson Only one true test 4 car race around the Nuremberg

[@ericl452]

Once the radical was out, so am I.

[@bernardfender5147]

Love Fifth Gear. Great show. Would prefer to see all cars do all tests though.

[@Da5idc]

Absolutely - they are all track day cars so we really should have seen all of them on the track

[@jimknowles5483]

Please continue with your video as done.... just please post the results of the cars you eliminated...somewhere....please We are all plainly car guys....what do you expect... Thank you.... just jim

[@thatonecarguy8488]

@@jimknowles5483 "just jim" 🤣

[@jboive]

Yes, this knockout format is pointless. Let’s see all cars thru all the tests.

[@Tinei1]

I think so too

[@Aagaardify]

So after eliminating two track day cars based on stupid “tests”, you test the remaining two cars as track day cars 🙄

[@RRSmurf]

Yeah.... Common sense was absent here.

[@brendangarvin7787]

Autotest, navigating round a complex maze of cones, is a fairly popular form of motorsport.

[@trevorshields7347]

All cars should have done all tests with points, then see who had the most at the end

[@kewan2045]

Trevor Shields absolutely! I thought they had favorites. Test twice with 2 different drives

[@alanhillyard1639]

To be fair, the zenos is definitely not what I would call a track day car. But I still would have liked to have seen how it fared against the other two on track. And how it would sit on the top speed actually, wonder if its actually got quite a slippery body shape comparatively...

[@twoeyedbob]

Yea...cos when I’m picking my track car How quickly I can get it in reverse is really important 🤦‍♂️

[@93455Driver]

Alasdair Henley Exactly what I was thinking, no point in testing reverse.

[@JJs_playground]

Lol... Very good point.

[@deltavee2]

If you rally, definitely yes. I know you specified track....

[@stratman9449]

well,....have you seen the pits/garages at goodwood revival and members meetings==...could be useful to be first on the grid.....:-)

[@johncunningham4820]

More important than You seem to realise . Did you notice the Caterham's Manual Sequential was Difficult ? Known for that .

[@askanracing]

Zenos wins in comfort, Radical wins in laptimes, Caterham wins in fun and the Ariel wins in this test.

[@nickbouvy6524]

Who cares how long it takes to put a track day car in reverse?

[@GusElliot]

Dumb test especially when the caterham has a sequential box

[@lastdimestudios]

This test was a total Joke. Let me do it next time.

[@charlieworsfold2661]

the first test is basically how fast it goes into reverse.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

Seeing Karun drive that Caterham was epic. Heroic.

[@extreme8808]

When you hear an F1 driver screaming "Don't bite me!" in mid-corner, that says enough 😂😂😂

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

@@extreme8808 More like praying! :D

[@jameswalker2116]

Unfair comparison run The test in different order you’ll end up with a different result

[@93455Driver]

james walker ? Radical aero would have won?

[@jameswalker2116]

93455Drive

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

It should have been the Radikal v Atom for the laps. Radikal is all about grip in corners.. the one they tested was the least powerful one they make. They should have used the SR3 one or whatever it’s called to balance out the power vs the others

[@rotorblade9508]

Yes, maybe they wanted something with downforce vs something without (caterham has lift)

[@douglaspealing5608]

Having driven a radikal, the grip is unbelievable. It's the only thing I've ever driven with actual downforce, and you have to change your mentality to be able to be quick. The way it just hooks up and goes is incredible.

[@RRSmurf]

Look, I enjoyed the video but imagine eliminating a decathlon athlete who specializes in later skills, because they came last in the first one...

[@laurean5998]

Especially because it was acceleration. Who cares if the radical is slower in a straight line if it is way faster in and out of the corners it can easily carry that speed and won't need to accelerate that much in the first place...

[@elssmann827]

It’s too bad they didn’t just start with the track test on all four cars.

[@paulshelley8132]

Thanks!

[@aidan6557]

So u get a ex F1 driver and he's stuck on stopwatch duty? 🤣Ya love to see it

[@edgimson5706]

That's because you have a better standard of driver driving it ,in a btcc multiple champion.

[@austinmarius850]

Who else is furious at this video.

[@loggosviewapartmentslixour3817]

You absolutely need a quick in and out a garage on a track car... Fifth gear give us a break!

[@LeeM74]

I'd be happy to have either in my garage. My head would buy the Atom, but my heart would have the 620 (in the S spec instead). Both awesome machines..........

[@johncooper4637]

That was absurd. The Radical is a pure track car and has aero so it should be quicker in the corners. As others have said - no elimination.

[@Rexsus1]

I've been in love with the atom since I first saw it. I've said for years now that it's the one car that could get me to walk away from sport bikes.

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

You really should have had all the cars compete in all the events. What a shame to not see them fully in action!

[@bencooper7944]

Might have been good if they hadn't eliminated cars. Stupid test.

[@Bandare]

Bigger question and better test is: IF you ran the same test for each car and rated from 1 - 4, which would win overall? Which car would win the complete lap race test for instance, Radical?

[@pip5461]

The "Atom" is like a mini nuclear explosion around the circuit ...

[@Motor_Alchemist]

Get someone who can actually drive the Caterham properly 🤷‍♂️

[@dacianmuntean]

You should of picked the Radical SR3 , at least . But the aero on the Radical makes it slower in the straight line. It would of beaten the rest in the track time

[@Juanjo191]

What about the bac mono? Or the vuhl? Should have been those two and the atom plus the caterham

[@jamiewilkinsracing]

You could offer Fifth Gear the chance to test the Mercedes F1 car and they'd be like: "Imma get my cones out"

[@WynnofThule]

Radical was screwed ever since you passed up the SR3.

[@GraydonMcKee]

Entertaining. I’m a huge Caterham fanboy but could have told you the Atom would have kicked the Caterham’s rear all day long. Now I wouldn’t turn down an Atom if offered one but if I was spending my own money, it’s the Caterham every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It’s a throwback to the classic cars of yesteryear whereas the Atom is an essay in modern minimalism. Both fantastic but my heart is with the Cat.

[@nicomeier8098]

I have an idea: let's test four track cars, give 'm a couple of tests to see who's best and.................save the actual track test to the last??????? If it wasn't for that acceleration test I bet the Radical would have proven to be the fastest on the track, and isn't that what this test should have been about in the first place?

[@1066wastrel]

the Atom is the only one of these I`ve driven, but, trust me on this, it is MENTAL!

[@JakobusVdL]

I've driven a Radical, and a Caterham, they're also mental.

[@dp8685]

So let me get this straight. They took track focused cars which are all about downforce, braking and corner speed and tested them as if were testing go carts. If I was any of those manufacturers I would never lend a car. Next test Lamborghini aventador vs Skoda Octavia which is better backwards. Stick to racing!

[@JakobusVdL]

its an auto test format. Nothing unusual in that.

[@yuvan600]

This is the only channel which makes me sleep

[@io504]

That turbo stututututu sounded fantastic at 4:25

[@freddieb1903]

The correct term is a Turbo Spool 🙂

[@ericsson_motorsports]

@@freddieb1903 No, spool is when the turbo is sucking in air. The sound he was referring to is called turbo flutter

[@tom_forsyth]

I've driven a bunch of Caterhams - and I think so have you folks surely - and that one looked uncomfortable and twitchy. I wonder if it was set up for something silly like doing donuts or drifting, and then they forgot to reset it to normal road/track use before they lent it to you? I suspect the Atom would still have won because of the mid/rear bias, but it should have been a closer race. Shame you couldn't get the Radical SR3 (rather than the SR1) for a closer contest as well. Oh well - you drive what you got.

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

I'd still go for the Super Seven ;-)

[@luiscarlosramirezmedina6164]

It totally missed the vuhl 05rr, would be nice for you guys to have on a competition.

[@tedcalouri2694]

Why would you eliminate the Radical (the car we want to see actually on the track) BEFORE you do the track test? And seriously the cone test part is the part everyone is skipping passed, that is so irrelevant! I didn't bother watching this video to the end as the most relevant test was saved to the end with the 2 least interesting cars...

[@guillaumesandmayer7053]

Not sure what was under the hood of the Radical but if it had the original concept Hayabusa V8, that being two Suzuki heads on a custom 2.6liter V-block, the Caterham would've finished third..making 400hp normally aspirated and being the lightest powerplant by kilos and kilos. .

[@domenicozagari2443]

Why motorcycles are legal and the radical not, surely the radical is safer than a motorcycle.

[@rotorblade9508]

it could be made, ariel atom is. Radical has 2 or more street legal models, rxc and sr3 sl.

[@breakawaymotorsports]

The only time I use reverse on my Atom is to get it out of the trailer. Seriously LAME test, overall. 0 to 60 is pretty useless as well as I'm only in 1st on an outlap. Too bad they didn't test them ALL out on the track. THATS where it all matters..

[@markcocker355]

Hang on, The license plate of The Caterham LE60 CAT. Given that there is now a commercially available set of it, is LE60 CAT not Lego Caterham?

[@jaepark6648]

Awsome cars.... should have just gone straight to track test. What a waste of good track cars.

[@kulebrero]

Are there similar manufacturers in the US? I’ve been working on an older Miata as a track/fun project. Any of the four in this review would better option.

[@Sai.the.Breizh.Pirate]

It would have been nice to also be able to compare the purchase prices of each of the models present in this test. 😉

[@RockyFoxxowo]

The caterham’s reg plate looks like it says “lego cat”

[@gur262]

Is the caterham a little bit slimmer? That and the long nose, where it seems you can see the wheels even better and be conscious of how much space on the road you got seem like possibly that bit more fun on roads versus an atom. And of course, in all of these vs a lambo that barely fits on a mountain road

[@I_have_Aquestion]

Why didn’t you race all of them? WTH? This video has led to the worst ending possible.

[@Sverigebilden]

Stupid test, why not test them all.

[@jameswalker2116]

Sverigebilden and where is the KTM x bow

[@Martin84239]

But where is the Donkeyvoort?

[@garystackhouse5787]

So, what if the Zenos was quicker in the acceleration test?... or the SR1 OR Zenos better on the track in the race? By eliminating one car after every test, you potentially skew the outcome by the order in which you decide to do the tests. I could design a test where a Land Rover would be the best "track car" over a Lamborghini, an F1 car, and a Ford F150 if elimination test #1 was an off-road challenge and elimination test #2 was a grocery run!

[@brettquinn2424]

This elimination idea is horrible.. We want to see all the cars do all the tests, even if we know the outcome

[@RossNixon]

No mention of cost. What in the order of their cost?

[@steffydog]

Fab, thanks guys 👍

[@cliftonsheldon9134]

Not putting the radical on the road course is absolute nonsense. There are plenty of radicals in road racing and they are pretty quick though they cant compete at the top levels in places like SCCA and NASA. One thing for sure is that the Radical would blow the doors off the the Zenos and Caterhm on the road coarse. Its not even a competition. On a tight road course it should be faster than the Atom as well. There is a reason you don't see any Atoms in real road racing but you do see Radicals. This whole test was pretty lame.

[@kulebrero]

Wish we could see the Zenos do the speed and track challenges

[@brucel8891]

Very rarely see 5th gear on tv these days which is annoying tbh. It's the only proper car program these days where they properly test out cars with proper drivers.

[@shadowprince4482]

I'm a Caterham guy but these tests would likely disqualify a modern F1 car right off the bat.

[@mjozic3785]

For me the First and second tests are so stupid the fist so and so but the second... you should race in the two that lost head to head it’ll be whay more interesting

[@gomorel5866]

Would have love to see the ktm x-bow in the test.

[@SimonPass230267]

Would still take the Caterham every time. Just a magic formula. Colin Chapman's rules still apply.

[@fillman86]

with that aero package, I get the feeling that the zenos would do better on a full track

[@lucasrustt]

I want to see the sr1 on the track

[@chrislovett87]

It would be nice to see a Factory Five 818 in that mix.

[@hectormontenegro8472]

I'll stick with the Seven, it's simply mechanically perfect

[@MaKe-xd4zn]

Why wouldnt you do the accelerstion tests starting from say 50 mph representing a slow corner? Starting from standstill is just stupid, as was the looking for reverse in the first test ...

[@rotorblade9508]

the radical may actually be faster on the track. The aero is much better, it it able to do up to 1.9g lateral acceleration while the Atom can do only 1.12.

[@mbardos]

Somebody explain it to me: how a front/mid engined Caterham has a lighter front end than the rear/mid engined Ariel?

[@willdau]

"Its slippery aerodynamic body could make up for that" whilst showing a track focused, high downforce car. Which writer made Karun say this garbage? The SR1 is ANYTHING but slippery! Stupid fake drama. Who do you exactly think your audience are?

[@daveblock4061]

I realize the Caterham was originally a Lotus, but would have been curious if you included a 3-Eleven.

[@rahuldamala7021]

Should've bought BAC and tested each of their's track times.

[@tauttechminusmanagedmusic3778]

SR1 vs 620R in a race is always a win for the SR1. Very silly test. However, the 620R is most fun you can have losing a race.

[@gur262]

There should be tons of 50-100hp m versions mass produced as eco but fun cars,with 15-20hp electric support in the front wheels, just 4-10km pure e range. And an optional roof. Proper aero. I really don't see why even small cars weigh more than a ton.

[@davidbrandenburg8029]

my pick is the Ariel Atom, until the Ariel HyperCar comes out!

[@angrydoggy9170]

Only driven the Atom and the Caterham. Like both off them, but I prefer the Caterham just because it feels so basic and primitive. Driving fast is always fun, but driving fast in a car that wants you to screw up and possibly kill you makes it truly exiting.

[@adow77]

Caterham definitely not set up properly. Should not be all over the track like that. Tyre pressures, damper rates, anti sway bar settings?

[@shaneclk9854]

How about no downforce lol

[@frmphxaz84]

A certain, slightly more popular trio of Brits would have the sense to run all 4 of them through every test.

[@shocka007]

Excellent presentation.. Guys that can Drive and Talk !

[@driver46]

Too bad they didn't test all cars around race track and post times , anyways I would be more than happy to have any of these for some track fun. 👍

[@ridhwannasution5085]

What is miles per hour

[@InfiniteCheeseCrates]

I'd take the Caterham any day. Get a front splitter, use a little ballast and better tires. I dont know how good of a brand Avon is, but I'd rather have the Hankook's from the Radical SR1 or even the Toyo's from the Atom.

[@addouaouyassine5396]

Bac mono and caparo t1 and praga r1 and ktm xbow r are also a good track toys

[@tracylemme1375]

It isn’t about speed it is all about the fun factor

[@savage22bolt32]

All depends on your personal driving preferences. For me, I'll take the 7.

[@JamesCopeland-i1j]

They took the SR1 out, before it had a chance to shine. It would've murdered them in the bends. The only reason they did it, was risky dynamic.

[@_red_scorpion_]

They say the caterham has less front end grip because of the lack of weight in the nose. But when they tested the 911 and the 570 they said weight on the front end will tend to understeer. Genuinely confused at what weight actually does

[@trackie1957]

In the first “test” the driver gained more experience with the course with each pass, thus the first two cars were at a disadvantage.

[@Just_Wanna_Drive]

It's pretty silly to have the most relevant test as the last one when you eliminate the cars like that... I really wanted to see the Atom vs the SR1.

[@alexisverduzco646]

You guys should add the sierra rx3 or alpha to this list.

[@Zach_Routhier]

Absolutely moronic Test. Eliminating cars before they can show their talents which might lie elsewhere down the line. Radical on the track maybe since its, oh I dunno, a TRACK ONLY KIT CAR!@?????

[@vfr492]

Nice one, though I'd rather see all cars doing all the challenges. Who knows if the zenos would win all the other... Now we never will know do we...

[@trumanhw]

the radical would've been a better match on the track (and. you did kinda choose by far the LEAST powerful radical).

[@shaneclk9854]

Would have loved to see the radical Vs the atom

[@JamesCopeland-i1j]

To be fair, the SR1 is available in road-legal trim.

[@stratman9449]

used to be a super 7 fan...(still am) but i think i'll go with the Ariel Atom now...:-)

[@cern1999sb]

I'd like to see them all on the track

[@5325jslenk]

I would still rather have the Caterham, it just looks cooler to me.

[@jakecal11]

ah yes get in a pro racing driver to do a stopwatch