Fighters you can legally play

[@baberuthless]

CORRECTION: Tekken 5 Dark resurrection still appears to be on the PS3 store as of now. You certainly have to do some digging since its kinda tucked away in the PS3 store (Which seems to be on life support by how slow its running) But overall im happy to be wrong about this since i highly recommend getting this version if you have a PS3. Still a shame its not on anything modern now but well take what we can get. Also MK Vs DC is availble to play on Xbox one through backwards compatability! You might roll your eyes but i think the story mode is worth it alone if you want a good laugh. Thank you to those who kindly pointed this out to me 😊

[@baberuthless]

@@boomboominroom Im afraid Thats already in the video 9:25

[@mr.magnum1867]

I think the mortal kombat arcade kollection is still on the 360 storefront(I bought it less than two months ago) though I understand that storefront will be gone next year

[@thechugg4372]

Another Correction for you, MK 1-3 and 4 Gold are all available on GoG, though 1-3 can be extremely buggy to make work on modern hardware.

[@osaka_daioh]

That story mode is great if only for how the structure of it is actually one of the most best ways to set up a fighting game story mode. Which got perfected in MK9!

[@nolenapplegate6004]

You can’t buy mk vs dc sadly tho through the store

[@snootlongbottom]

I’m loving that this channel is dedicated to everything about fighters except the actual fighting. Keep it up!

[@Shockbrawler]

It's great you talked about this subject since a lot of good games from certain series don't get re-release. Especially Tekken 4. I do believe preservation for these games should be very important and accessibility is greatly appreciated for those who want to learn why we love these games a lot!

[@tatewaki11]

Not Tekken 4 lmao

[@AlexRFightgames]

​@@tatewaki11absolutely Tekken 4. And all the other games mentioned in here. (but especially T4, it's super beautiful)

[@residentevil094]

I’m agree with you but unfortunately Tekken 4 was not really loved from fans if not the less appreciate

[@the_Nameless8]

People still hating on tekken 4 is crazy especially considering that tekken revolution exists and felt like a mobile game on a home console lol

[@osaka_daioh]

I am so glad you said Tekken 4 is your favorite of all time. It's one of my favorites too and it deserves more love. It's SO much fun, so unique, and it's directly because of the gameplay that gets little to no love from the community. But as to this channel, fighting games is more than just the actual fighting in a goofy sense.

[@baberuthless]

I agree! I know people say it’s the slowest tekken but I don’t play on that level so it’s hard for me to notice. The story,stages,music etc makes it my favorite

[@neonthunder3261]

LITERALLY FACTS. Best aesthetic, fun gameplay, and a story that didn't go off the rails yet. If it had better balancing, I'm sure that the opinions would've been way different.

[@trancefighter]

Best art style for sure. It had a DOA vibe which I feel worked quite well.

[@jrtien]

I loved Tekken 4 as well though it is not my favorite. I really enjoyed the Tekken force mode and the end stories when you beat the game were really intricate on some of the characters. I noticed on force mode that when you fight in the corridor/temple the music reminded me of some music I thought I had heard on Donkey Kong country before. Anyone else notice this?

[@kaceejones2282]

@@baberuthless I do absolutely love T4 myself for the same things you mentioned. The direction they took with they atmosphere was so PERFECT, and the aesthetics from the menus down to the character select screen was beautiful loved the way it portrayed this new age dark cyberpunk like vibe. Especially how robotized the announcer sounds. It is well deserving of a re release despite the game not being as good SFA3 Max is BY FAR the definitive version of Alpha 3. It was truly an amazing port due to the PLENTIFUL of added characters, stages, music and content they added to the game. The Dramatic and Reverse Dramatic modes were a blast and World Tour was really something didn't really played the 100 Kumite mode like that though. Its more than deserving of a re-release On the MK side a MK 3D Collection would be appreciated alongside the inclusion of MK Shaolin Monks in said collection :)

[@trancefighter]

Excellent video. Thanks for mentioning DOA. DOA5LR still has a competitive scene and the playstation lobby mode still works fantastically 10 years later.

[@baberuthless]

I’m glad to hear people are still playing DOA5! DOA doesn’t get the credit it deserves that series is GOATed

[@Greenmeanie123]

I’m convinced guest characters are gonna fuck up our ability to play any fighters 10 years from now

[@user-wl2xl5hm7k]

That would actually be intellectual property laws. Which everyone should advocate to fully abolish. IP laws are very unethical.

[@regrettspaghettt]

The year is 20xx. The only fighting game left is guilty gear, due to it never doing crossovers. Life is good.

[@sleepfgc]

​@@regrettspaghettt Hopefully it stays that way, but surveys show that the devs are at least considering that option. If there will be a guest I just hope its someone from blazblue...

[@ygorknowles5681]

I hope you like Cyberpunk at least...

[@sleepfgc]

@@ygorknowles5681 Hell yeah

[@shaolinsnake9650]

This is the reason people play on emulator, because devs don't care about their early entries, while us players care. I'm not ashamed to say I'm a heavy emulator player

[@ultimateaquiles]

You're definitely right about Mortal Kombat being the worst offender of bad video game preservation. You can pretty much only play the games on the consoles they released in, with the small exception being MK11 which is playable in both PS4 and PS5, but it barely counts because it's the newest game in the series and it came out a year before a new console (game came out in 2019, PS5 came out in 2020). The PS2 games for example, which are some of the most beloved in the franchise btw, are unavailable outside of original hardware. It sucks, you have to emulate everything.

[@lumirairazbyte9697]

The recent MK games have the distinction of having Licensed/Crossover characters, which is the crude example for anti-preservation.

[@vista1456786]

mk is in a interesting situation though. No problems should exist with the DC characters right? Made me scratch my head when they chose 2 evil supermen from Amazon instead of their own from Injustice in MK1.

[@shaolinsnake9650]

Tekken 4 is not disliked by the community, it is beloved for the unique atmosphere, character design and stages

[@ChipDamageMike]

Fantastic video! As someone who loves game history, and is always worried about preservation, I’m glad you were able to make a detailed and succinct video to showcase how little curation fighting games get. Whether it be small things like Yoshimitsu’s T6 preorder costume, or whole characters like Mai Shiranui in DOA5, so much content has been lost to time already, and sadly, no one can possibly snag everything before it’s delisted. So I find it great that videos like this can help people find current content before it disappears. Thank you for your effort!

[@baberuthless]

I agree. Also only a game being popular isnt even enough to preserve a game. If that were actually the case we could also play Marvel 2 or MK2 freely now

[@TheSeventhForce]

I think I remember Harada tweeting around the time the PS1 Classic got revealed that Gon wasn't and has never an obstacle in re-releasing Tekken 3. Don't know if he was being truthful or not, but I can't think of any reason he'd be yanking people's chain about it. Great video!

[@baberuthless]

I’d wish he’d prove us all wrong and do it then 😆

[@chronology556]

Bandai Namco is a big AAA company. You’d be surprised how much power Harada doesn’t have in making these decisions.

[@estebanacostaolivera3232]

Guilty Gear being one of the better preserved fighting game franchises is crazy, the only games missing are the spinoffs Petit 1&2, Dust Strikers and Vastedge

[@jodyposey9558]

And don't forget the PSP exclusive Guilty Gear Judgment

[@Chump_Fighter]

Depends on how granular you want to get with it. Of course Judgement is another, but also X and basically half of the XX games. Anyway, at least for Vastedge just reading a plot summary is literally preferable to "playing" it, so that's a plus

[@CrimmiSkye]

Don't forget Guilty Gear Advance.

[@redmage5251]

and we aren't missing much with vastedge

[@LeonMassey]

WE DOING CRIMES THIS EPISODE?

[@baberuthless]

Only if your a smash player

[@Greenmeanie123]

@@baberuthlesslol god damn girl you really are ruthless 😂 smash catching strays like that

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

I think the reason Capcom only releases arcade versions isn't ease of porting, but rather a holdover from the PS1-Dreamcast era of Arcade Ports. At that time, the most impressive mark for a Home console release was Arcade accuracy. People specifically were looking for a more affordable way to play the game compared to an arcade, so a perfect 1-to-1 replica was the most desirable. And as arcades waned in popularity, there was still the demand for arcade accurate emulation for competition, with complete remakes or unfaithful ports being unpopular in the competitive FGC. Arcade Accurate ports are often harder than porting home releases, which made lots of people see home re-releases as a cop out. Even today, the FGC mostly plays on arcade accurate versions of the games if they can, so the Home console versions would be a neat addition but not the main seller in Capcom's eyes. That's my 2 cents anyways, I'd love if Capcom kept the Home releases like how Sonic collections have the Game Gear games.

[@baberuthless]

I mean your right that is most certainly the reason, that being said to your point i wish they could include both i dont see why not. Perhaps they would be worried about confusing the casual buyers on why theres two version of the same game but perhaps in the game itself they could highlight the diffrences and what not. That being said were probably looking at arcade versions forever at least from Capcom

[@ps-lover8380]

​@@baberuthlessexactly they give both versions it will be so good

[@pancholopez8829]

One thing im amazed you didnt mentioned being Persona 4 Arena, Guilty Gear, and Blazblue. But i understood since only recently they gotten popular and later went underground. I can give you a quick rundown on their statuses. Guilty Gear: GG1 is preserved, last i checked. Its on the Switch as well. GGX is a mess and story mode is Japanese exclusive. GGXX is also a nightmare, and in a weird way a similar case of SF4 and USF4 with 2 halves of the story mode (Best bet is 360 with X2 #Reload and XXAC+). GG2 is not a fIghting game but its on PC instead of just being 360 exclusive, so thats good. Xrd Sign, Rev and Rev2 are on PS3 and PS4(BC on PS5) so its safe. Blazblue: all 4 games are stuck on PS3. Last 2 games are on PS4 weirdly enough. Xbox owners have the first 2 on 360 and 3rd game on One. PC has all four games. Persona 4 Arena: PS3/360 for both games. Only first game is BC on Xbox One. I heard both games got re-release on Switch so thats good? Yea, fighting games can be hard to play legally and preserve.

[@twrmz]

26:14 : This is how i felt about Buriki One, i discovered that last year and it has an interesting control system, only to find out it was never ported to anything outside of the arcade and proper emulation for it is not completed yet great vid btw, really informative.

[@808soul7]

Having MvC2 in my possession is such a joy. Love the breakdown and coverage of how we have loss some very good crossovers. Never really know what we have, until we lose it. (S/O to Bloody Roar)

[@baberuthless]

So true. I remember before the ps4 was announced i was thinking it was so obvious that it would be backwards compatible with ps3

[@WizardOfWor]

Agreed. I *still* have Marvel Vs. Capcom 1 & 2 on Dreamcast!

[@thechugg4372]

Feels like everyone secretly loves Tekken 4, truly the most fun Tekken game ever made

[@BeeLy1011]

It always makes me happy seeing DOA brought up in vids like this 😌 Also that comment about Fightcade's imperfections is VERY relevant, because there was a DOA2 tournament that was going to happen yesterday that had to get postponed after only one match because of how finicky the game is on Flycast netplay 😫

[@baberuthless]

DOA is certainly an under dog in the FGC these days. At least in my eyes i feel it gets over looked to much

[@djsercy5879]

@@baberuthless it really does, especially considering the impact it's had on 3D fighters like Tekken with its stage transitions and the like

[@dog_knight]

Good run through. Game preservation needs to be a continuing discussion as there are going to be many lost to time. I have a complete Street Fighter PAL Playstation collection, but it also means I have to keep most of the old consoles too. Some of the consoles are getting harder to find in good condition and prices are going up. This is problematic for when the hardware does eventually fail. I even recently picked up a PS Vita TV so that I could use it to play Alpha 3 Max.

[@baberuthless]

Vita Tv is absolutly a wise purchase. I got one back in the day and i still use it pretty regularly. That being said your right when hardware does fail and emulation becomes less safe its gonna be a huge pain to play a lot of these games.

[@WooMaster777]

Thanks for the shouting out some love for Tekken 4. It was an important stepping stone for the series and deserves some attention. 🥰

[@Dominic-xp9rv]

As a big Mortal Kombat fan, seeing how few games are available and how most of the modern games have content that won’t survive hurts me

[@joeriley1219]

Small correction on the MK9 thing. Freddy Kreuger *is* actually the main reason (At least it's very likely, and seems to be the generally accepted reason). It would be fairly (Emphasis on *fairly*) trivial to port the PC version over to modern consoles (Which lacks Kratos), though MK9 was pulled from Steam (Which is usually the one place these games are safe to stay), and it's generally accepted that it's because of the film rights to Freddy Kreuger being returned to Wes Craven's estate in 2019. So Warner Bros' doesn't actually fully own Freddy Kreuger anymore.

[@YaBoyEdGames]

I don’t know I got this recommended to me but I love it. This video and the marvel 2 stages video are right up my alley. Also third strike is my sentimental game as I play it in memorial for my brother in law who was a top ranked Xbox 360 player.

[@caldw615]

I really hope there is more of a push for game preservation in general. Physical hardware breaks down over time, discs get scratched, cartridge batteries for saves run out, and servers for downloads will eventually go offline. There are games I traded in as a kid for certain releases that I really wish I hadn't due to the sheer price of those games now due to a lack of availability. This is a really important discussion to be had for the historical and artistic value of video games as a medium.

[@jamesbevan4479]

Great subject matter, its a topic me and a workmate discussed a while back. I brought up Soul calibur, his attitude was "yeah but you can still play sc6, the newer one" like it was fine that sc1 + sc2hd is only readily available on xbox, sc3, 4 and 5 are effectively dead now. and last I checked soul Blade is forever stuck on the original playstation... I subbed 👍💪

[@xXspringsXx]

Hell yeah the algorithm is right on the money with this! If your other videos are like this then I’ll be around for sure!

[@phillyman2837]

Thank you for speaking on *HD Remix* 🙏🙏🙏

[@brichan1851]

Your video is immensely important. I hope the Big Boys running the show are listening! Thank you. ❤❤❤❤

[@paradockz]

i didn't know i needed this video but 3 minutes in and i'm appalled and hooked, this was great tyvm!

[@renatop1238]

Good video, and you know, this whole topic just makes me feel like video games really are the toughest medium to preserve, and sometimes I feel like people get a little too comfortable with the idea that if you have them physically, that magically solves everything, like physical mediam isn't frail, that consoles won't one day stop working, and that computers don't drastically change over the years (we all know how some old pc games are a pain to play on modern ones, unless they are on gog or something), and like you said at the end, it is in the interest of these companies to sell things for you again, or maybe not even that, since the big heads don't really care about art, so i'm not sure that the life of these games will never not always be on the balance.

[@baberuthless]

unfortunately i agree. As much as a love being a physical collector, just the other day my Tekken tag 2 Wii u disc just wasnt able to be read despite me cleaning the hell out of the disc. Thats certainly a scenario a lot of people in the same boat are gonna have to reckon with soon.

[@SIBStudioss]

Love the channel and absolutely loved this video! Extremely informative. Thanks for putting this together!

[@matthewgarcia1922]

Great video really love how you mentioned the small differences that are sometimes skipped over. As a slight addition, in addition to mk4 the dos versions of mk 1,2,3 and trilogy are also available on gog

[@baberuthless]

Wow the DOS versions?! i didnt even know they had a DOS version thats wild

[@orlanzo2621]

I found your channel from Thorgi’s Arcade, glad he recommended you. Excellent content, keep up the good work. I definitely had to subscribe.

[@AceofSpadesss]

Pretty much on point, great video! But it's worth to mention that Mortal Kombat 1-3 and trilogy are also available on GOG. MK9 was pulled down because of Freddy Krueger license, PC version of MK Arcade Collection used Games for Windows Live and when it was deprecated, the game was pulled down because Netherrealms didn't want to bother with updates, should be still available for consoles. All the rights to MK games now belong to WB and in my opinion that means we'll never see MK 3D trilogy again for 2 reasons: 1. Because WB doesn't bother with re-releases since they want all eyes on their latest games, unless those could be used for marketing purposes and done cheap. 2. Community that wants those games is pretty small, so expecting to even cover ports for modern systems is not a good idea, porting a game from ps2 already sounds like an expensive nightmare and we have 3 games here.

[@181Xplor]

Loving the traditional home background- it brings the fighting game video together with a classic feel!

[@nathanielvaughn6728]

Since the release of this video, as of August 11 of 2024, SVC Chaos is now on digital storefronts, and a Marvel vs. Capcom arcade collection is slated for sometime this year.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

Now the CvS games are also coming to modern platforms via the Capcom Fighting Collection 2.

[@TQT1995]

Just a quick note about MKX, there was a rerelease of MKXL that has all the DLC included on the disc for PS4 and Xbox One which both can be played on PS5 and XBX

[@baberuthless]

Which is great but the argument om maling still applies since if alien and predator are not for sale. That physcial MKXL copy will start to skyrocket in price since that would be the only way to access those charcaters

[@AI_Papi]

I came across your channel today and I subscribed. It’s very refreshing to see different faces and peoples talking about fighters. I love the topics, the construction, the execution and delivery. I hope you can continue to make more content!!

[@juansalas2882]

The Marvel vs. Capcom Collection has just been announced

[@djsercy5879]

Xbox One/Series backwards compatibility is the best part of the system. I got a Series S just to play some of my favorite old games, namely the Xbox exclusive DOA games and SoulCalibur 2 HD (right before it got pulled from being available for purchase) That being said, the issues with DOA5LR and its DLC being unavailable is something I'm definitely not happy with

[@coreytrevor1920]

I never played tekken 4 as a kid and got to experience it for the first time in 2022 and I loooove it. Those old games are a lot more then just nostalgia walks. Great video

[@afranco3680]

Great video, just wanted to mention MK Armageddon’s Special Edition also had a port of UMK3

[@fragmentedpixels]

Nice video! I think about this quite often, actually. (long read incoming 😅) I remember I replied to your Twitter thread where you discussed guest characters. This is my main problem with them-the licensing. When it comes to preservation, there’s also the overarching theme of the games industry wanting to gradually phase out physicals for digital copies, which will also affect current preservation efforts. In an ideal world it wouldn’t be solely the job of individuals to do so, but here we are. Some of the big gaming companies seem to avoid older titles due to their age… I know they have the source code to re-release some games (like the Tekken Tag Tournament HD release), but they just don’t want to. IDK!

[@baberuthless]

Yea doing collabs and what not is cool but I wish they had contracts were they could rerelease the game with the characters or something to future proof themselves

[@fragmentedpixels]

@@baberuthless I agree. Maybe there’s some other legal and commercial aspects that get in the way of doing so… Who knows. 😅

[@padrescott2047]

The fact that you showed Rival Schools made me press like. One of my favs.

[@jmanfro1]

As someone who comes from the melee community, I still love hearing about other traditional 2D fighters and what they play like. Keep up the work!

[@rafaelmartinez2851]

Love the history and dedicated knowledge to these treasures ❤ SUBSCRIBED

[@ElChakotay]

This was the easiest subscription ever for me. You did a really good job on this and you nailed everything. You have a bright future ahead on KZbin and I am here to watch your journey. Keep up the great work!

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Excellent video. Need more coverage on games availability and version differences. More aware playerbase means more demand for better preservation.

[@SleepmodeFGC]

I was already intrigued by the premise (since I’m also a huge proponent of video game preservation), but then you got me with Tekken 4 being your favourite Tekken game. Sometimes it’s not about the competitive soundness, it’s about the vibes (seriously tho T4 should have gotten an update like every tekken game after it did)

[@baberuthless]

Tekken 4 is absolutely a vibe even if it’s not the most competitively viable game I still adore it. Also yes if Tekken 4 got a DR style update that would have been amazing 🥲

[@ShinHeiLong]

No love for SNK fighters which are in abundance for most modern platforms, from Samurai Shodown to Fatal Fury and KOF.

[@bquinn5891]

I somehow managed to find the original Street Fighter in an actual arcade in the early 2000s. It blew my mind at the time.

[@ahsankhan-zg6gr]

What a fantastic vid!!! I literally was thinking about getting old fighting games … and suddenly I find this! You’re awesome!

[@germain83]

Bushido Blade needs a new entry with the 2 games included. Licenses are definitely a double-edged sword. Get it now when prices are "normal" or not at all. Most I ever paid was $125 for Godzilla on PS4 and that was half price. $80 for MvC2 on the XBOX... and THEN they announced it was being re-released for PS3 and XB360...🤬🤬🤬 I still kept it, along with TvC, CvS2. Any fighting game with a physical release I brought. Not Dark Stalkers though although I did get the Capcom fighting Collection. Sorry for the rant. Excellent video as always! Keep up the great work!

[@baberuthless]

No trust me I get it, I’ve had plenty of times where in life I turned down getting a game because I thought oh I’ll get it on sale only to find out it never went on sale it became mega rare and expensive to get

[@germain83]

@baberuthless Turtles in Time comes to mind too 😆

[@TheOriginal009]

Hey! There was this Capcom release that allowed you to play Street Fighter and Street Fighter 2. I remember buying it and installing it on our school's computer lab desktops. I'll update this post once I find the name for it.

[@TheOriginal009]

It was called Capcom Arcade Hits and came out in three volumes but the first one had Street Fighter and Street Fighter 2 Championship Edition on it. It was awesome even though it had some framerate issues.

[@baberuthless]

That’s pretty cool didn’t know it had a PC release

[@Vic_v._Gerdenheim]

I'm just saying, I'd do anything to see a rerelease/collection of the Goketsuji (Power Instinct) games. Fighting Layer would be nice, too...

[@Riz_]

Hi Baberuthless. I really enjoyed this video and I do think the preservation of older fighting games should be more of a priority for developers even though it is not in their best interest I suppose. If memory serves you did say that Mortal Kombat vs DC is no longer available, it is backwards compatible on the Xbox. I have the disk and it works on my Xbox series X. On the subject of Mortal Kombat and their guest characters. I have never liked the idea of guest characters but you have bought up another reason why long term it may not be the best practice to have guest characters. However nothing will change now sadly. They are a real cash cow for Warner Brothers Games. I wish we had access to the earlier Mortal Kombat games but alas I don't see this happening. One final thing and this is about Tekken. I suck at 3D fighting games in general and Tekken in particular but, I always loved Tekken 2. It will never come to Xbox as we never had an Xbox when the game came out but I wish it would. Sorry for the overly long comment.

[@iwdm1313]

Love it when the algorithm recommends cool videos like this. Great video, looking forward to checking out the rest of your channel!

[@MilkyCao]

the older versions of sf4 are located in the usf4 files. this is important to note because the older versions you can select in usf4 actually at times contain changes to the characters rendering them effectively different characters to their initial variants.

[@prodyg]

Buy the games you want while they are still available, do not wait until they get delisted or a digital store is closing.

[@WaynesWorld12]

You dropped a video and I missed it 2 days ago? Mad at myself but I'm here for it now. Love your videos ♥️

[@YalkYalk_]

This was a really nice and informative video! It really is a shame how many of these games haven't been rereleased, even though it just seems like easy money for these studios lol. Just discovered your channel but already a fan now

[@kaceejones2282]

Fr I just wish these companies would ENCOURAGE game preservation to let these new generation of gamers know why we enjoyed and loved these games and the issues facing us are the rarity of old console at increasing prices especially since the hardware is bound to fail, not enough of the classic being released on digital stores and increase prices on digital stores. I'm thankful that I still have my PS3 and got back a PS2 a few years back shortly before Covid. And got back games I had such as DBZ Budokai 1,2 and Infinite World, Naruto Ultimate Ninja 2,5 Uzumaki Chronicles 2 and others such as Transformers The Suffering and TS Ties That Bind Minority Report Spider Man 2 etc

[@emperor2596]

Outstanding video!! It saddens me to see so many great games be lost to time it really sucks

[@benilinshingoseth2086]

Woow, this was you !!! First time I see you in your video ! :) Anyway, keep on with the Evo moment 37 and I totally agree about SFA3 MAX only available on PSP and GBA... I mean, why ?? I have so good memories with the original one during my youth... It's a real shame not to be able to play this "complete" version of the game ! Keep up with the good work !

[@NewGabeOrder]

I think it will be more difficult to implement local multiplayer unless Capcom makes another from-the-ground-up console port. Also, the 2001 Naomi-based arcade version exists, and at least characters like Juli, Juni, Guile, Evil Ryu, Balrog, Dee Jay, T.Hawk and Fei Long were ported over to the arcade that way. I wished Capcom re-released that one and Zero 2 Alpha since Naomi-based Capcom arcade games have been getting re-releases thanks to the MVC Fighting Collection and Marvel vs. Capcom 2. It seems Capcom was able to figure how how to get Naomi games working on Switch at full speed.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

​@@NewGabeOrderThankfully, SFA3 Upper is coming via CFC2.

[@lukass64]

I knew a lot about this since I love collecting fighting games esp the ones difficult to "legally" get, make it that much more exciting to play. Making them easily available to play digitally makes them lose their novelty, esp when someone like myself spent so much to convert a PS2 to play on an HD TV. Loved and enjoyed this video very much. Thank you. Did you mention Street Fighter X Tekken?

[@baberuthless]

I did not mention SFXT but the game has been pulled from steam a while ago but I’m not sure if it’s available digitally on PSN or Xbox as of now

[@megapokesonicx]

I get your point but that just sounds unfair to other people who just want to play these games. Not everyone has some of these consoles anymore.

[@lukass64]

@@megapokesonicx I could argue people are just not willing to pay for the console, games, and HDMI adapter. And it's not that everyone doesn't own these consoles, they just don't bother buying them.

[@megapokesonicx]

@@lukass64 what if someone’s PS2 or any console no longer works or they don’t have it anymore. These systems aren’t going to last anymore. What would YOU do if your older consoles stop working? Some games are way too pricey nowadays (cough, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, Xenosaga, and DS Pokémon games) even if you have the console some games are ridiculously priced. These games need to be preserved because no one should have to shell out an arm and a leg for one game that to be honest isn’t worth after market pricing, paying more than the games original MSRP price is ridiculous. Also not everyone wants to bother with getting older consoles to work with HDMI, that’s great if you are able to do all of this but not everyone can.

[@lukass64]

@@megapokesonicx I'm just going to stick to my argument that "fighting games" lose their novelty when anyone can easily download them.

[@dbzeh6837]

Tekken 4 is for me what Virtua Fighter 3 tried to be, both truly added next gen features in game features, like the stages with different surfaces and obstacles, but many ppl didn't like it, bc it of course affected how the game played. For me, it was an evolution. The plain arenas could have been an option, like walls, to avoid ring outs in some games. I'm amazed by the amount of info you put in a single video. It's almost overwhelming.

[@DreamcastEnjoyer]

Awesome video - really cool to see someone talking about fighting games in this way too! Subbed

[@TheCodeAlwaysWins]

Great vid. Just a note that you can play Street Fighter 1 on Street Fighter 6 in the arcade recently (when it shows up) too.

[@baberuthless]

Thats right streaming only unless you buy the season pass i believe

[@GmNdWtchr96]

​@@baberuthless I'm not 100% sure it's streaming?

[@baberuthless]

Streaming might not be the right word but you have to have an online connection since it’s in the battle hub

[@strider2k2]

Great video. As a fellow FGC nerd, you definitely know your history. :)

[@Masonrytodger]

Mortal Kombat Unchained and MK PS Vita is still available on the PS3 PSN Store. They’ve taken all console MK off recently so just a heads up

[@chazmaru9583]

You always choose really interesting and weirdly tangential topics haha.

[@sanm2801]

YES! Tekken 4 is my favorite of all time too! Between the best music and stages to the best character designs IN THE SERIES PERIOD. It will always be my favorite!

[@SinnerTakesAll1]

Love this video! Can you do one about the DOA series? Preservation, history, future?.

[@snatcher8517]

more like 'perversion' hahaha

[@baberuthless]

They absolutely will be a big ole video on DOA. Might take a min though

[@teslamachine]

these are such well edited and informative videos, I've been binging them all night! I look forward to your next uploads! Instant sub!

[@MougliFGC]

I appreciate the small nods to Rival Schools :D

[@baberuthless]

Gonna rep em anyway I can 😅

[@BugsyFoga]

Been on a fighter game kick recently with uproar of new titles coming out, so I’m looking out for older titles in anticipation.

[@mikaelamonsterland]

something that I think is really nice with dead or alive at least is that you can play every game in that series on Xbox one and later Xboxes via backwards compatibility, 5 and 6 are still in their free to try versions too even though the dlc on those is still crazy over priced

[@lilboosie5]

Good work, great breakdown. There's a good amount of this that I didn't know 😎

[@wilsvgaddiction4456]

They're all legal if you play the physical version.

[@LuckyOfJJ]

i have a strong feeling a tekken port collection is inbound...

[@wesleygamer655]

I really like your video because thanks to the online edition of Street Fighter 3rd Strike when I was younger I was able to play and become a fan of this franchise, if other games had this level of preservation I believe I could be a fan of them.

[@idongesitusen5764]

Capcom’s fighting Collection series is a beacon that might help fix the preservation issues.

[@Buddhakingpen]

I think the concept of game preservation is a strange one to me. Like, are companies supposed to rerelease every game theyve ever made on every generation of consoles? I think preservation is up to the ppl that want to rip game content onto a pc. Most art is lost to time, even movies and music, which have more universal physical mediums. So to expect widespread preservation from an industry that changes its tech every 5-8 years just seems like a fools errand, especially since games are only getting more complex.

[@NickysYT]

Enjoyed the video, and you have great taste in fighting game music!

[@JoEs_Do9]

They need to bring Tekken dark restriction back and tag and the original games to play them online

[@michaelgarcia5493]

I'm a big fighting game fan I love old fighting games titles I grew up with I even like fighting games I saw as a child but never got to play big fan your channel.

[@sollato0293]

In regards to Tekken, it’s more of a Bandai Namco issue where their preservation is so notorious it makes Nintendo looks excellent in comparison. You’ve already mentioned Tekken but other important Bamco series like Tales only have a third of its library available on modern hardware, or is deemed not financially worth it like the Xenosaga trilogy. So really, Tekken’s terrible preservation is more of a result of Bamco being terrible at preserving their games.

[@baberuthless]

That makes sense given their track record with games that aren’t Pac-Man and Galaga

[@sollato0293]

@@baberuthless even Pac-Man preservation is lackluster, took them almost 2 decades to make a remake of Pac-Man World and it’s not a certainty if World 2 will get a remake as well.

[@CErra310]

I appreciate your ability to say "I like this game even though it sucks". That's incredibly mature

[@Sentay0]

How cool would it be if your friend came up to you and said they'd been playing a lot of some weird obscure fighting game and they wanted to share that with you, practicing with each other and laughing about how silly or broken it is, be that friend.

[@Shodan130]

bro do you know how many people i try to get to play EX2+. the game isn't even broken or silly, it's straight up goated

[@tabmok99]

Love this vid. Very cool topic. Also enjoy the shirt -- I've got the same one!

[@baberuthless]

Thanks Tabmok! That shirt's whole aesthetic was just too cool to pass up!

[@tabmok99]

​@@baberuthlessI would like to point out that Ultimate MK3 was also released on the MK Armageddon premium edition bonus disc! The MKII releases from this time period (Midway Arcade Treasures 2 and MK Shaolin Monks, as you covered) were controversial because the start button would bring up the collection's UI menu and not behave as it does in game. This made it impossible to access Smoke, since the cheat code for fighting him was Down+Start at the right moment.

[@baberuthless]

@tabmok99 wow UMK3 was in the special edition of Armageddon? I only had it on the Wii which I don’t think had a special edition. Was it on a separate disc or perhaps the menu of Armageddon itself?

[@tabmok99]

​@@baberuthlessIt was on a second disc! It was pretty damn cool, I gotta say.

[@baberuthless]

Dang i gotta hunt that down now!

[@pirajacinto4]

Oh this is a good, GOOD, TOPIC. I love it!

[@JEtienneMusic]

My dad and I loved our Turbo Graphics 16 and the chip cards lol. Had some banger games too! Also great video essay!

[@baberuthless]

Damn you actually had a turbographics 16?! Congrats man I never seen a real one ever I just have the mini version

[@JEtienneMusic]

@@baberuthless we had the super jank but legendary China Warrior, Keith Courage, Alien Crush and Blazing Lasers. Odd controller but a cool quirky console. Shout out to my pops for picking it up in the early 90s

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

Soothing voice and very unique content you make on top of being quite a looker yourself. Subbed and eager for more interesting vids 👍

[@BrotherBrown.]

tekken 8, street fighter 5, mortal kombat 1.... such a good time for fighting game fans!!🎉

[@Tempora158]

7:38 I think PS1 Tekken 3 was included in the PS Classic because it's a physical product with a known finite number of units made. If Sony's plan was to make a million PS Classic, then Masashi Tanaka/Weekly Morning can accordingly adjust their fee for a million copies sold to Sony to re-sell in the PS Classic. This is also why a lot of licensed games only get Arcade1Up re-releases: the licensors know exactly how many copies of the games will be paid for (because Arcade1Up has to tell the licensors they are going to make X number of cabinets with their IP) and can adjust their licensing fee accordingly. This is simply not possible with a digital re-release because digital licenses aren't pre-sold to the digital storefront, so it's difficult for licensors to not lowball themselves in the event the digital re-release of PS1 Tekken 3 becomes an unexpected huge seller.

[@baberuthless]

Tht certainly makes more sense. I suppose the PS classic and arcade 1up machines are less so games being sold and more so toys in the eyes of the rights holder.

[@ministerquik]

Great informational video! Would like to see more

[@Ai-Saika]

NOICE!!! Also u looking good, little bit of echo in the background tho.

[@garvielloken8494]

Old fighting games deserve love, i'm glad we have Fightcade

[@jedimaster12100]

What a great video. Very well done and researched.

[@NewGabeOrder]

16:35 Capcom released a Naomi-based arcade version in 2001 with all of the home version's characters, Dreamcast version's balance changes and the lack of crouch canceling. Perhaps Capcom can re-release Zero 2 Alpha and Naomi Alpha 3 in a future compilation since they were absent in the 30th anniversary collection.