Fighting with Sword & Pistol: Really Just Fantasy?

[@schaduwfarspire9493]

Blackbeard carried up to 6 single-shot pistols. I wonder how many revolvers you could carry to keep it realistic and fight without reloading.

[@eukanuba98]

6 on a belt alone are quite possible i think the absolute maximum is around 12 with two dropleg holster, two on the chest and two crossdraw under the arms with the six on the belt (two in normal holsters, two crossdraw forward and two on the back of the belt) Edith: maybe you can go all in and get four drop leg holsters (one slightly forward and one more backward)

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

2-3 guns? But honestly you will need 2 at most, reloading them is not a big issue.

[@Sableagle]

InRange TV's Karl Kasarda would be the person to ask about this one. Maybe he'll be kind enough to enter the next pistol match with a dozen cap-and-ball revolvers.

[@bigguy7353]

​@@alexturnbackthearmy1907Without reloading. Read things.

[@michaelsk1339]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 reloading a muzzle loader in a MELEE is defenitivly a big deal, espessialy on a ship where you dont have space to retreat

[@phaikia13]

A pirate's life for me?

[@Mika-Fresh]

Drink up me hearties, yo-ho…

[@patrickkenyon2326]

Aye, lad, yarrr.

[@stampsu]

Yarr

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

And really bad eggs

[@Polloles]

Aye matey!!

[@Gakulon]

There was one particular samurai during the Bakumatsu period that was incredibly proficient with using a katana and a six-shooter at the same time

[@paleoph6168]

That samurai is the legendary Sakamoto Ryoma. Alongside his Katana, he used a S&W Model No. 2 Army revolver.

[@BaithNa]

They should make a movie or anime about that

[@OnyxIbara]

Next rpg build. My space cowboy for Starfield is now fated to become a weeb.

[@Gakulon]

@@paleoph6168 Yes! I always get him confused with a certain Saito Hajime

[@JosephJoeseph]

​@@BaithNaRGG : Ishin has you play as Sakamoto Ryoma and has a fighting style which uses a gun and sword simaltaneously

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

Cutlass and half a dozen pistols in the Caribbean, sabers and revolvers in the 19th century, even in WW1 with some officers going into trench raids with sabers and semi auto pistols. The history of single handed blades in combination with handguns is a long and storied one.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Awesome that you said it that way... That description the officer gave about using the flintlock to be able to forearm parry, as well as a club, as well as a gun certainly seemed viable in conjuction with a blade. It was literally the best technology for its day, for close quarters combat like ship boarding, or really anything that still involved the use of a sword.

[@CrizzyEyes]

The WW1 trench fighting thing is basically the initial inspiration for the Imperial Guard in WH40k. It's funny how Warhammer has both a fantasy and a sci-fi setting and sword-and-pistol are present in both.

[@hithere4719]

Kabar TDI and similar “weapon-retention blades” becoming popular. It became enough of a problem for cops getting bjj’d out of their weapon in recent decades that blade & pistol is still rocking in the 21st century 😎

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

​@@CrizzyEyesit makes sense really, it's cool as fuck so why not

[@derchozenvun83]

Mad Jack Churchill carried a sidearm with his broadsword and longbow. I'm unsure of what his bagpiper was packing.

[@TheSaberra]

Having a pistol introduces a lot of mind games to fight. As all you need is to point your gun and your enemy can't deflect, parry or stay out of reach of your bullet, they would most likely go for strike to your hand and you can potentially bait them into doing this.

[@HanSolo__]

Can wear bullet proofed armour. Keep in mind, it is not about "bulletproof" it's about the single set of plate armour which was tested to stop a bullet when witnesses are watching and the proofing document is formed. You buy very expensive armour with a small dent.

[@valandil7454]

I'd imagine in such close quarters like boarding actions or the trenches a gun wouldn't be much help within a certain range, in a close press you'd be just as likely to shoot a friend

[@davidsmith7752]

​@@valandil7454One of the common techniques used in a boarding action was to parry a blow and then fire into the midriff at point blank, so there wasn't much chance of missing.

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

Parry this you filthy casual.

[@Roamingfirebat]

I can dodge it.

[@Specter_1125]

A lot of historical pistols may have been designed to also be used as a bludgeon

[@Skallagrim]

Not necessarily designed for bludgeoning, but their design definitely lent itself to that.

[@mariotupek9969]

Yes, Balkan Kubura kept a very slight angle of the handle to the barrel and often ended with a pointed decoration. Something similar to a spike for breaking glass in a bus.

[@hithere4719]

“Heavy means reliable…” -Boris The Blade

[@tekken.universal2343]

@@Skallagrim except they reinforced butt of the handle to be used as a bludgeon

[@Skallagrim]

@@tekken.universal2343 Sometimes, yes. The same reinforcements also help prevent the wood from splitting and cracking under recoil by the way.

[@edgarburlyman738]

This is what saber and revolver falls under and they definitely really did that, quite commonly for quite a long time.

[@bigguy7353]

Which was only in contention by idiots.

[@astahfirula]

​@@bigguy7353which happens to be the majority of the internet. Hahahahahaha

[@monkeyboy275bobo8]

I mean it sounds like the logical thing to do. Ofc i would want a gun to just shoot people but obviously i would also want something to defend myself while not beeing able to just shoot for whatever reason.

[@jester9217]

Yeah even to the mid late 1800s a lot of men carried bowies or large fighting knives

[@rachdarastrix5251]

It is unknown what the reason is this has stopped, but there are rumors of some people still doing it but with machetes.

[@youremakingprogress144]

"Something fantasy writers and artists seem to be particularly fond of is the scantily clad female form. One good example is today's sponsor." Great video, as usual. I appreciate the way you cover the practicalities of all the weapons and tactics you cover in your many videos.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Ash Williams did duel wield chainsaw and shotgun. Now the way I understand it, at least in terms of pirates, was you either carry as many guns as possible in a big rig and use them as needed. Or you shoot, then turn it around and use it as a big club with your cutlass

[@EvilGNU]

I mean using the empty pistol as an offhand weapon after firing it, not unlike a parrying dagger would make a lot of sense also. And yeah with the metal plate on the grip bottom a flintlock pistol would probably have made quite the efficient club. Also I like Skalls Tonfa-take. Did some dabbling with espada y daga in the past as part of me doing FMA and ofc it doesn't go 1:1, but I could see a lot of applications for the pistol even after discharging it into a foe.

[@bigguy7353]

There was no "rig", just sashes and belts.

[@Silverman160Zero]

Reminds me a lot of Assassins Creed. With Edward using 4-6 flintlock pistols in AC4. Or in Unity where you can use the Rifle to shoot, then get close to swing it like a club/staff.

[@B_Skizzle]

Shotgun? No, my friend, that was a mighty boomstick.

[@ashleywilliams4896]

Ol' Rusty and the Boomstick saved my sorry ass plenty of times

[@gravelmonarch]

“I first produced my pistol, then produced my rapier. I said ‘stand and deliver! Or the devil, he will take you!’”

[@NDOhioan]

Damn, beat me to it!

[@kdavidsmith1]

I understood this reference!

[@johnm3907]

Thin lizzy. What a band

[@the_senate8050]

I believe for British officers ad far as early WW1 the sword was considered the main weapon while the pistol was the off-hand.

[@michaelsk1339]

offisers weapons up to ww1 were manly defensive, you would parry an incoming thrust or cut with the sword and either reposte with the sword or just shoot the enemy, or you shoot them before they get to you, that works too

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@michaelsk1339 Yeah, officer weapons, when either two lines of bayonets clashed or cavalry attacked. Saber was mostly for defense.

[@gokbay3057]

Well that makes sense, it would be harder to use a sword in your off hand compared to using a pistol in the off hand. Pointing and shooting isn't difficult (even if you might be less accurate compared to using your dominant hand, but mainly training your marksmanship with your off hand might help alleviate that). But using a sword properly requires skill (and therefore your dominant hand).

[@stuglife5514]

@@gokbay3057 At the ranges where trench raiding combat happens, point shooting with your off hand is viable for sure, when most of your targets are within 10 meters you can hit that without particularly aiming down the sights. Granted, mileage per person may vary, and to get good at point shooting requires practice

[@holynder3181]

Swords were also good for pointing and gesturing while giving orders.

[@paleoph6168]

Like I always say: "Gun and Sword!" Both. Both is good.

[@ductapedudekasza6008]

One of the few things everyone can agree on

[@patrickkenyon2326]

Engage in melee. If you can't dispatch him quickly, shoot him and move to the next.

[@torg2126]

"Gun and sword, in accord." Also, one of the best times to shoot someone is when you are in a blade lock of some description

[@slummyluciano]

Short swords are still highly utilized by military personnel in foliage dense places such as Africa, Southeast Asia, and South America. There is no doubt in my mind that combatants have found themselves applying Saber and Sidearm fighting principles more than we ever think they would in todays time.

[@matts9116]

Clinch pick and a compact 9 is today’s rapier and off hand dagger.

[@hang_kentang6709]

Foliage dense area, short swords? I think those were machetes, or parang. They are usually seen as a survival tool, useful for making a clearing, chopping wood to make shelter, fire, cracking coconuts, durians, etc. So useful that they are pretty much in every household and old enough to have been incorporated into martial arts.

[@mnk9073]

As long as your enemy brings a sword and your _projectile weapon_ has on average less shots in it than there are enemies, bring a sword too.

[@bigguy7353]

Or another gun.

[@SwordsMaster7.]

@@bigguy7353 Or a half dozen guns, AND a sword.

[@milire2668]

@@SwordsMaster7. Or a full dozen guns, AND no sword.

[@SwordsMaster7.]

@@milire2668 Or a full dozen guns, AND STILL a sword. Meme value aside though, if there's more enemies than you have ammunition in your gun, and they have a sword, you're pretty screwed. Assuming you hit every shot and it's a disabling shot. If not, you're even more screwed. (You know, even more screwed than you would be facing that many people anyway...) Also, why not bring the sword either way?

[@milire2668]

@@SwordsMaster7. iwas just fncking around bro :D swords the way to go fs

[@VulpeRenard]

For what it's worth, regarding the source material suggestion at 5:05 that you engage with melee weapon and pistol at the same time, saving the pistol for when you're in close... Where I train, we did a number of various skirmish scenarios using trainer knives and airsofts, including a few chaotic every-man-for-himself melees where everyone has a knife in one hand and a single round loaded in the pistol in their other hand, all at different ends of the room and waiting for "go." Nearly every time, the majority of people who began by firing off the one round would miss the target while the people who initiated with the knives and used the pistol in close would hit their target and make it to the end. We only did a few rounds of this and these were in pretty confined spaces, but it does seem like plausible advice for a ship raiding scenario.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

In a ship raiding scenario its probably even more good advice at least for the era of muzzle loaders and swords. As that means we are not generally talking really giant ships that are going to be really quite steady underfoot. Add in a somewhat unpredictable bobbing motions and that heavy gun in your hand with its own inertia isn't going to want to stay on target, so closer the better there. Though in the modern era with ships being generally so huge they don't react nearly as much to the ocean to throw off your aim, so with a decent for accuracy handgun and a little practice with it longer range is probably the winner. Though it is still a handgun, so unless you are really really good with really good equipment we are still talking rather short range.

[@VulpeRenard]

Skall: What about a sword and a shotgun? "Oh, like the Troubleshooter from DFO." Skall: Today's sponsor is DFO. "... Ah."

[@dfoneopleglobal]

[@WingMaster562]

I like how DFO is still around to this day

[@VulpeRenard]

@@WingMaster562 Literally the only F2P game I've ever spent money on. An embarrassing amount, actually, during the late 2000s.

[@ZizixxSamurai]

Skall: Today's sponsor is DFO VulpeRenard: **moans**

[@deadcard13]

Skall over here validating the Blaster Stance in Jedi Survivor.

[@sermalevolent1858]

My Father at a LARP event called Maelstrom in the UK had flintlock/percussion cap pistols in various locations on the outfit (usually inside an overcoat), think he had about 6 on him at one point in time. whenever he fired his shot, the enemy would think it would be safe to approach and enage in close quarters, and so he pulled a second, it was a lot of work and he ended up ditching it after a sweltering summer but quite effective one you got the mechanical actions down and youre facing people wh for the most part arent experts

[@Raptor788]

I imagine it'd be incredibly risky to save your shot for when you think you're losing with the sword, since it could be over very quickly. But I absolutely love this fighting style trope. Jedi Survivor actually has a style like this too, with a lightsaber and blaster, and it's a ton of fun.

[@valandil7454]

It's not a trope I'm surprised people are just realising it now 😄 Finally having a Jedi with a blaster's made them just that much more unbeatable

[@oldlemon1533]

I've had "duels" with my brother with foam swords and adding a nerf blaster definitely makes a difference. It was extremely hard for my brother to advance on me because the blaster was always aimed towards him. Great video :)

[@Oakengnome]

I’m glad you got a DFO sponsorship. It’s actually a good game.

[@code066funkinbird3]

Avaliable on phone too ?

[@big_grub]

Currently reading the Powder Mage trilogy and this couldn’t be more relevant to me lol

[@Franky_Sthein]

What I thought about right after seeing this video was the Soul Calibur character Cervantes. He uses one long sword together with what seems to be a dagger or really short sword. The funny thing is this short blade is part of a still functioning pistol, sticking up vertical from the pistol grip. Really interesting video, would like to see more on this subject specifically

[@The_PotionSeller]

There used to be a youtuber, Red Michael, he set up numerous bottle targets and would practice taking them out with his saber and glock in his off hand. He was extremely proficient at it, I don't see why a single shot would be any worse, other than the lack of follow up shots. It's unfortunate that Red Micheal took down his channel

[@diomedes39]

He revived a different channel called the adventurer’s blade but never admitted it was him. His content was some of my favorite on KZbin but he stopped uploading again.

[@diomedes39]

We need his niche filled

[@navi-zj7fp]

Link channel plz

[@The_PotionSeller]

@@navi-zj7fp he took his channel down years ago

[@puddel9079]

i can just imagine how crazy sword and gun would be with machine pistols.

[@neonbelly4]

Kriegsmesser + glock driveby (modern chariot)

[@valandil7454]

I think the movie Equilibrium with Christian Bale nailed that one 😄

[@Mark-in8ju]

any full-auto gun would make blades useless

[@valandil7454]

​@@Mark-in8junot really up close even using short round bursts you won't have much of a chance to aim, our military still teach armed and unarmed combat for a reason

[@Quincy_Morris]

Once you add repeating firearms the need for blades becomes far less pronounced.

[@paleoph6168]

Enlisted released the Nambu sword pistol combo weapon in a recent update, nice to see this video come along.

[@ElmarDylong]

Edward Thatch was said to carry 6 loaded flintlock pistols in a special belt he made himself. Fire one, drop it, draw the next pistol, while holding a cutlass in the other. Pretty deadly I would say.

[@code066funkinbird3]

Jow imagine using modern gun

[@malahamavet]

Ragetti: WAIT! we can use them as clubs *bonks Pintell on the head

[@FernFilix]

Ah the basics of CQC. Omg the Skall video that I’ve all been waiting for; this is so cool. I caught this video hit off the press!!! I love the videos you have about the viability of these weapons, it’s so detailed and thought provoking! I appreciate each video you make!! Omg you mention my favorite mechanisms from the history of firearms

[@rickjames7391]

I can't believe DFO is still going. I believe it's like 20 years old now.

[@saamfvg]

Hey brother, thanks for the shoutout! As you said, using the gun to parry or as a bludgeoning weapon was actually done, especially with single shot pistols, but we didn't want to break the Nerfs we were using ;) Cheers from Fiore's lands!

[@AnecdotalPoet]

Fun fact, William Pringle Green was also the inventor of Pringles 😂

[@theghosthero6173]

You mentioned an hypothetical gun pata sword, but actually in England there is an indian dastana arm guard with pistol and a folding spike that is basically that. They truly thought of everything

[@Kreinsamer]

Never thought I'd see DFO as a sponsor these days

[@Fakespy]

Glad to see your content back in my feed instead of having to search for you. Awesome stuff as always

[@samueljwilliamsmusic]

I feel your pain with the humidity. I've been returning home from work completely drenched.

[@BMO_Creative]

I love the scatter shot short barrel shotgun with the crossbow combo for armor piercing! Great video!

[@JugglingAddict]

Imagine the weird shenanigans Jorg from the slingshot channel could come up with if he were to design a modern version of that crossbow gun. Definately a repeater crossbow option on top and a lever action gun or shotgun on the bottom. Or both would that be possible, too heavy???

[@KageRyuu6]

Joke's on you, I'm cross hand-eye dominant, meaning I shoot with my left because it's my dominant eye, and fence with my right because it's my dominant hand!

[@stevedenis8292]

Always bring a knife to a gun fight : you may run out of ammo before you run out of enemies ,bayonet to save ammo it is expensive, also you may want to take a trophy after.

[@bigguy7353]

Because you have done it dozens of times, right? 🤦‍♂️

[@stevedenis8292]

@@bigguy7353 works in the games.

[@DH-xw6jp]

​@@bigguy7353perhaps he has, or perhaps he is capable of learning from history.

[@danielcox7629]

Someone can kill multiple people with a knife before anyone even realizes there is an enemy, something on only a suppressed 22. Rifle with subsonic ammunition can do.

[@valandil7454]

​​@@danielcox7629I think you're overstating how effective most people are with a knife, because they're so short you have to get in close to use them at all which makes them less of a threat once you've spotted them, easiest defence is to run remember. Whereas and I don't mean to make this a debate about gun control even though it is the point, a gun can offend multiple targets even by accident at short to medium range which is why when someone in America goes for a group of people they injure or even kill them in the dozens, whereas in the rest of the world where we get by attacking eachother with knives there might be 2 maybe even 3 stab victims with less lethal wounds at a time. Don't believe the video games or the movies guys

[@themetal]

I can't believe that this is how I found out DFO isn't dead.

[@dfoneopleglobal]

[@ronaldsellers3717]

Sword & shotgun was also seen in real life among Nathan B. Forrest's Cavalry.

[@HowardAltEisen]

Wait wtf a DFO sponsorship? AYO LETS GO

[@CTXSLPR]

Definitely checkout @C&Rsenal's piece on the French 1892 Revolver (Primer 003*)and how it was set up for reloading on horse back by placing the revolver in the left hand with the reins leaving the right hand free for fine motorskills of reloading or transitioning to the saber.

[@bvoyelr]

That was a distressingly specific reference to sweat. I don't know how to feel about it....

[@AJGladys]

One thought i have is that in most of these fights - be it boarding a ship, storming a trench, urban warfare etc, in the chaos of melee combat its likely a person you move into combat is doesn't know if your one shot pistol is loaded or not. If you suddenly take a step back from sword range to take aim with a gun they're going to assume its loaded and there's your opening.

[@ozzymadnius]

Dude! I was watching this on my TV and had to go to my KZbin app on my phone to comment. I love DFO! I use to play it with my best friend at the time I think like 10 years ago! I can't believe it's still online! That's amazing!

[@dfoneopleglobal]

😉

[@ninjaxenomorph]

Thank you for the look at one of my favorite fighting styles from history! I hope you can also look at it from a science-fantasy angle (Warhammer 40,000/Star Wars) and from a historical perspective like what Blackbeard was said to do and carry a brace of pistols. The naval fighting using the pistol defensively is new though; I’ll definitely be using that!

[@BaithNa]

Perfect timing because Final Fantasy XIV may have just revealed a sword and gun class

[@Fullmetalnyuu0]

I know this is isn't really your sphere, but I think it's an amazing coincidence that you posted this video the same day a new class which uses this exact fighting style was teased for the game Final Fantasy XIV

[@naptec6311]

That DFO sponser was a complete jumpscare. Completely forgot they recently dropped a new class (at the time of writing this, the latest class is Archer)

[@dfoneopleglobal]

🏹

[@chickenmonger123]

I’ve always wondered how you take on pack hunters. Wolves. Sword and pistol. It depends on the fight you are getting into. As always.

[@valandil7454]

I don't think even that would save you, pack hunters flank you and fake you out so you try to defend yourself against the wrong one. Wolves are even more dangerous because they're so much faster than you, they can engage then get out of your reach before you could do anything and they're hard to aim at because they're such narrow targets. A sword and gun's definately in the category of human v human

[@hildir6507]

omg a DFO sponsor? Haven't heard of that game in yearssss

[@trikepilot101]

The addition of a "knucklebow" from in front of the trigger guard to the butt of the pistol would give you a good parrying weapon. A "bayonet" would make it even more useful. The holster would have to be bigger. And there it is at 8:02 !

[@bigguy7353]

You don't have to use quotations if the term is correct to begin with. It's not like it's slang.

[@chuckwieser7622]

Great info, and thanks for ACTUALLY posting your links and other informative reference videos.

[@ezrafaulk3076]

I knew flintlock pistols were designed in such a way that they could be used as *clubs* when you fired the shot off and didn't have time to reload, but the reverse grip thing there *never* occured to me; that was *really* cool to see. Also, @Skallagrim , why don't you revisit the topic of *whips* as weapons for your next video? Not only have your fellow historical KZbinrs made videos on the topic, but Anthony De Longis does an *incredible* job of demonstrating the whips effectiveness *and* versatility; I'd *definitely* say it'd be worth your time. Not to mention it'd be a good natural follow up from *this* video, considering the sword and whip style is a historical thing too.

[@Sableagle]

A bullwhip from the costume shop makes a very effective weapon indeed ... against mosquitoes.

[@bigguy7353]

Stop bold facing tons of words. Not everything you feel needs extra emphasis.

[@Franky_Sthein]

@@bigguy7353 maybe it is a secret message? Let's see. clubs never really whips incredible and definitely this. Guess there is no hidden meaning to them

[@JainaSoloB312]

​@@bigguy7353It makes it easier for people with ADHD to read, and assists with skim reading for those with less time to spare

[@tylerphuoc2653]

@@bigguy7353On most sites, ** means italics. KZbin is sorta uncommon with having single-layered ** turning into bolding instead of italicization

[@RandoBox]

Bro, that thumbnail pic is very well composed.

[@theshellderinslowbrostail5422]

A interesting subject for sure Love seeing it on video games and nice to see it has some uses.

[@bigguy7353]

It's fascinating that someone is aware of video games but not real history.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

@@bigguy7353 Kids these days. No knowledge of pirate tactics, but a clear understanding of Warhammer 40K.

[@ZackofSpades]

My favorite trope of this is the main character from Red Steel 2. The badass anime trenchcoat, wide hat, cowboy-bandana-mask wearing sword/gunman who had sick combos with his cool katana and assortment of firearm weapons. And he was also silent, giving him a big step up from Dante

[@apeture_explorer4810]

This is so heinous how can you say that. Dante's big mouth is half the reason the character is so cool. Loud mouth taunting disrespectful muskateer build.

[@UncleRJ]

A sword and a gun? So Bloodborne basically.

[@bigguy7353]

Nope. History. It was done hundreds of years before video games were invented.

[@Mentat13]

^ This guy must be fun at parties

[@code066funkinbird3]

Or rwby

[@dg4262]

"I come strapped with 6 pistols and a dagger , come under the black flag , where the scallywags swagger ."- Blackbeard

[@FaustoPego]

One thing we have to remember is that guns aren't made to strike, so if you do strike or block with a gun, don't trust it to fire after that. It might break something inside due to the impact and render it useless. Also, not do that while it's loaded, because the trigger might go off and you might be shot, or some target you didn't mean to hit.

[@michaelsk1339]

you would idealy shoot and then use the pistol to parry incoming strikes and id rather have a broken pistol than have my hand cut of

[@leolopp]

In before "You can use a Glock17 as a hammer"

[@nef36]

A lot of old revolvers and most modern pistols are 100% capable of pistol whipping

[@kcdodger]

mf never heard of pistol whipping in his life and it SHOWS

[@alainerookkitsunev5605]

Pirate age single shot pistols absolutelly were capeable of being used as clubs. They were even DESIGNED so that they coud be used as a club after you fired your shot. And in modern times pistols really are just sidearms and breaking your pistol in melee combat likely wouldn't be that big of a deal, if you are close enough to your enemy to break your pistol by hitting it in their face, you really have bigger things to worry about than the condition of your pistol. Also even modern handguns do break more easily and are not really designed to be used as clubs, i woud reckon if you only have one enemy you are facing, breaking your pistol by smashing it against their face seems like a very viable and effective last resort.

[@CreepyMF]

I used to play a lot of Dfo, its rly good fun. Gz on the sponsor.

[@michaelmccoy1794]

DNF Duel, a spiritual successor of the game sponsoring this video, has the BEST example of this type of dual wield: the Hitman. 1:28 This character--an AGENT class variant--is AWESOME. He uses a katana and an uzi-style firearm with DEADLY proficiency. I highly recommend DNF Duel to any fans of DFO, as it is a 1v1 fighting game featuring characters from the DFO universe, and utilizes simplified move commands [inputs] & intuitive game mechanics.😊

[@RedshirtAfficionado]

Found the dev

[@jahaonsaqarty8752]

The only DNF Duel fan. So fucking based

[@longtsun8286]

Thank you. I also appreciate the links you provided, granting us additional information.

[@toivokorhonen3158]

These kinds of videos are really inspiring for fantasy writing

[@flareinc7413]

By the gods, that "old gun into tonfa"-approach is so cool! :O This is why one of the many reason why I watch your videos is that I get ideas for my Exalted RPG-characters :P

[@Sean-ne3gx]

I like the way you cited sources and additional references, felt like the KZbin/video version of a research paper, but integrated footnotes.

[@lt.branwulfram4794]

More on each of the Agent's advancements, ranked from most to least ridiculous: Troubleshooter (Wide Sword-thing and sawed off) - He compliments his fighting style with a wide array of explosives, from C4 charges linked together in a net to drop on his opponents to a case of grenades that he lets spill onto a group of hostiles that he then unleashes both shotgun barrels on for higher impact. He even attaches the explosives to his paddle sword thing to club his opponents, using kinetic force and the detonation for knock back. Some of the things he does with just the sword and/or shotgun are tremendous, like tripping up an opponent to set them up for a two barrel blast to the face or throwing up buckshot rounds in the air, blasting trash mobs point black, ejecting the shells and letting the buckshot fall into the barrels before blasting them one last time. Specialist (Beam Sword-thing and pulse pistol) - He manipulates Core energy. What Core energy is, I do not know, but it generates force fields, has gravitational properties and can even shock people into submission. It's pure science fantasy but the reason why it's down here is that I find this more believable than having a bunch of mines and a superbomb primed to detonate under your feet in a battlefield that you've only just been deployed to, which is what one of the Troubleshooter's ultimates is. Hitman (Odachi and twin submachine guns) - He swings this thing in one hand faster than anyone can swing it in two (he could even perform 3 simultaneous cuts at lightspeed with it) and has no concept of trigger discipline in regards to his SMGs. He regularly goes guns akimbo and recreates scenes from Equilibrium, only with more spray and pray and less firearm safety (which is saying something considering in Equilibrium, you have guys firing at each other at point black range, slapping each other's pieces away from each other like an elaborate form of Wing Chun). He even drops some magazines on the floor where there's a crowd of enemies then travels to that spot spraying and praying at them before picking up the mags and spraying and praying even more. Secret Agent (Kodachi and handguns) - He's comparatively more believable than the other three even with his edgy teleporting super speed shenanigans, samurai showdown style draw cuts and people piercing bullets on account of him actually taking the time to aim his shots, even if half the time he isn't even looking at his quarry (as shown in the active skill Target Shooting where, if a marked target is behind him, he'll bring the gun over his opposite shoulder to shoot at them. Oddly enough, this skill has a split second animation to load a fresh mag after firing six shots.). He also regularly pistol whips his opponents at close range (one of his low level active skills is called Rabbit Punch where he pistol whips the back of his enemy's head, bringing them in closer in a single tempo action so he can unleash his sword on them).

[@the8anarchist]

Heh, kinda funny you got a sponsor in DFO and you mentioned the Troubleshooter. There is also a fighting game spin off of DFO called DNF Duel, of which Troubleshooter is a character. As it turns out yes shotgun and sword is equally useful in that context because you can be at opposite ends of the screen in that game and his shotgun WILL still hit you. (though disgusting range on attacks is the name of the game in general, 8ing craziness for ya). Didn't know DFO added a new class though, gonna have to poke my head in and check that out.

[@dfoneopleglobal]

[@JoeMilbachOnline]

I just wanted let you know that thumbnail is 10/10. Nicely done good Sir.

[@Marionette_Doll]

Huh. DFO as the sponsor? I played that back in the late-naughts. I'm surprised they're still around.

[@dfoneopleglobal]

[@Zom13y]

One of my dnd characters used a hand crossbow and shield. Wasn’t really op but definitely came in clutch when the encounter needed him. He ended up crushing a mage to death with the shield, apparently if you smush a spell caster against a wall they can’t breath, focus, or speak to cast spells.

[@michaelbaker7499]

The ship boarding idea of have both in hand at first and fire at close range would have one other effect, surpress the opposition just before you engage. I mean, when you're a couple of meters from someone, if you then shoot at them one of two things is going to happen: -You hit, great. They're out, now you can worry about someone else. -You miss, oh well. They're probably now flinching, ducking, blinking, a combination, which gives you an edge. So, I guess that's also a win.

[@myh106]

Unfortunately, it would have one other pretty significant effect: Fall between the rocking ships and get crushed and/or drown because jumping between two ships on a moving sea with broken rigging and anti-boarding netting in the way (sometimes having to climb up if the other ship's deck was higher) is a lot harder than it looks in pirate movies, and it really helps to have one hand free. :)

[@michaelbaker7499]

@@myh106 fair point. But, once your on the ship the point stands.

[@rakatika]

Skal, the subjects of your videos are always super interesting and I learn so much. I wish the algorithm treated you better.

[@jyxtheberzerking4824]

the thumbnail alone was enough to make me want to watch this video

[@kazamajack1091]

Hey skall, I wondered when you mentioned/brought your crossbow in for demonstration, how realistic would the crossbow from dishonored, or the crossbow 'bianca' from dragon age 2/inquisition would be. They're both repeating, seemingly self reloading crossbow guns, but bianca at the very least seems to have more of a pump action mechanism that redraws the limbs for another shot, and theoretically feeds another bolt into it's chamber

[@fredgerd5811]

Awesome video! I always wondered about the purpose of carrying a pistol for a single shot, but now that you explained it, that makes a lot of sense in context of a boarding engagement where there are less combatants compared to a full scale battle.

[@Skallagrim]

Yeah, a single shot seems completely inadequate by modern standards, but back then it was an advantage over having only a melee weapon. Sometimes they carried more than one loaded pistol to quickly swap.

[@valandil7454]

Also if you're thinking boarding actions or even fighting in the trench you won't really be able to get off that many accurate shots before your friends and enemies are all mixed together and you don't have enough time or space to use it We overstate how useful guns are, swords, knives and everything else you think of are still used as much now

[@Real11BangBang]

It's very interesting that you bring this up at the time that you do. I am currently studying for a video I'm doing in November on Wheelock pistols and their role on the North American battlefield in the 17th century, particularly when paired with a backsword or a side sword in the hands of targeteers. In the early 17th century in the colony of Virginia, it was law that all targeteers be have armour, target, helmet, sword and pistol either snaphaunce or wheellock. Now mind you you're not going to see targeteers dual wielding a sword and pistol as the target is always going to be the main tool of the targeteer so he can defend the musketeers behind him. But the pistol would be used for a slightly ranged attack and the sword would be a "get off me weapon" both of these could be paired with the target

[@ViolentKent]

I loved DFO!!! And yeah, the humidity in NS is brutal.

[@Orphioux]

Nice vid Skall, keep up the good work man, there's so many people who appreciate and care for you and your well-being.

[@AnarchistGrandpa]

been waiting for this video for a WHILE. Thanks, Skal

[@Hatsworthful]

It is 200% a fantasy/rule-of-cool concept but the idea of a handgonne thats also a big-ass mace just sounds so cool.

[@GameTimeWhy]

Congrats on the sponsor! I love these episodes. In dnd it seems so easy to dual wield sword and crossbow

[@Cruxador]

The distinction between saber and sword that you mentioned offhand is largely a Chinese/Sinosphere thing -A single-edged cutting blade is considered a different weapon from a double-edged cut-and-thrust weapon (sort of like how knives and daggers aren't quite the same thing in more technical usage in the west). That is dao and jian respectively in Chinese but gets translated to saber and sword, by convention.

[@Densoro]

Interesting! Thank you for clearing that up.

[@muhnoodles]

I've been interested in the concept of characters who use a bladed weapon and handgun for a bit now, so this is very insightful, thank you :)

[@ANukeWithLegs]

*WW1 Officers staring in disbelief*

[@DSlyde]

Great video. I really appreciated the source of that manual. That and and its general quality raised this a cut above the many other videos on the same topic.

[@alexleblanc4202]

This was your best video in quite a while. GREAT job!

[@DanceswithBlades5]

That mention of Point blank missing in XCOM reminds me of a mechanic in another game where firing a gun point blank is super accurate if you're faster then your enemy, but if your enemy is faster then you then they get to interfere and you have to win a strength contest against them to win the 'Gun Struggle' as they grab your gun barrel and try to divert your aim. ... I just realized I'm still wearing my XCOM logo... lol.

[@bigguy7353]

This is real life, just fyi.

[@DanceswithBlades5]

@@bigguy7353 Yes Yes I know but I was talking in terms of game mechanics. Those nice touches of extra realism even in a turn based game.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

A faster opponent could dodge, as well, like something Jackie Chan might do.

[@DanceswithBlades5]

@@patrickkenyon2326 Yeah overall point is, a faster enemy in melee reach being fired at can do something to try to make your sure shot not so sure.

[@terrorbilly3367]

my man next episode will analize if ash' williams' loadoput in evil dead 2 and army of darknes is realistically going to work

[@aethelstan3279]

In the Hornblower novels having a single/pair of pistols is considered important for boarding but there is a huge distinction made between a standard pistol and a pistol that uses percussion caps, caps being much easier to reload.

[@Shiver_Bane]

Well, Indiana Jones used whip and revolver, that's all the reasoning I need.

[@stephenbachman132]

Black beard carried 6 muzzle loading pistols for obvious reasons.

[@MrMetonicus]

I've been waiting for this theme thread! Shad, Scholagladatoria, Metatron, and the others need to get in on this topic

[@snideaugustine2143]

Hey Skal! Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for all your work! I know the algorithm and censorship has been brutal but at least one nerdy writer is extremely grateful for your efforts! You’ve got this brother. Never give up. Never surrender.

[@Jormungandr633]

One of my favorite swords in the thumbnail

[@mikurusagawa6897]

9:52 Adorea Olomouc actually had that in one of their choreograped fights on YT. One dude assumes a fencing stance with one hand behind his back and when the other one approaches him he pulls out a pistol from behind his back and shoots

[@bigguy7353]

History actually had that in history.

[@mikurusagawa6897]

@@bigguy7353 Yea, but it's a bit harder to play history on YT

[@Thrax_Irons]

Dfo is actually a fun game yall. finally a good game on a youtube ad

[@dfoneopleglobal]

🙏

[@KyleCanessa]

Thank you for all your videos! Please keep going!

[@TheUnseenGate]

I can’t believe DFO found you lol, l’ve been playing this game for over 10 years and thought it was only popular in Asia because no one l talked to has ever even heard of this game after l moved to America lol