Film Student Watches LOST s2ep2 for the FIRST TIME 'Adrift' Reaction!

[@BlueSunHiredGun]

The shot of Jin running onto the beach is an all-timer for this show. One of the most memorable moments in a show full of them.

[@Ely88Keys]

“You got a Band-Aid?” Genius 😂 I love Sawyer

[@theshadowfax239]

I am so happy you're understanding this show, it's the characters that drive this show, not the mystery.

[@ShemeshDaniel]

In the previous episode you can actually hear Kate when Jack enters the hatch and the music plays.

[@mikemoring]

Fun fact: This episode was originally written to have a Sawyer-centric flashback. It was rewritten at the eleventh hour after Harold Perrineau (rightfully) criticized the script for centering Sawyer even though the drama of the raft story clearly belonged to Michael and Walt. As a result, Perrineau had much, much less time to prepare for his flashback scenes than would normally be available for a cast member preparing for their character-centric episode(s). To me, this makes Harold Perrineau's performance even more impressive; he really knocks it out of the park here. Even though this episode seems to always land pretty low in people's overall rankings, I've always appreciated it for Michael's emotional flashback-no matter how many times I see this episode, those flashback scenes always hit me right in the feels. (It's also fun to rewatch this knowing that it was hastily rewritten. You can really see how some of the present-day stuff is designed to segue into Sawyer flashbacks. For example, Michael saying, "You have no idea what it's like to care for somebody else..." The camera drifts away from Michael and to Sawyer and you can almost hear the flashback "whoosh" taking you away. Then they cut back to a previously used angle of Michael, creating a more natural transition to his flashback using editing alone.)

[@AdamPFarnsworth]

This was probably the most difficult episode for me to watch, as it somewhat paralleled my experience as a dad. My wife (at the time), son, and I were living in California. My wife and son went on a "vacation" to Florida, when I found out she was visiting her new boyfriend there. They drove from Florida back to California in his truck, so she could move all her and my son's stuff to his house. Whilst they were packing, my wife sent my son to Oregon to be with his grandparents. I had to quickly get a lawyer, that I couldn't afford, and file in court to bring my son back to California. Ultimately the judge allowed her to move to Florida with my son, and I only had him during the summer and for holidays. There are a hundred other crazy stories about the divorce, such as my ex and her new husband deciding to move to Missouri and join an Amish community. She *literally* became Amish lol. Eventually the Amish kicked them out of their community though 😉 She ended up divorcing that guy too and is with a third guy. I just feel bad for him LOL

[@Frances86.]

Iv gone years of my life not being able to say the word Others without saying it the way Jin does Michael crying on the raft was so well-acted. Felt so real :-(

[@John_Locke_108]

Udders! Udders!!

[@p-forest]

@@John_Locke_108 I still do this too 😂

[@StevePowwersDayZ]

Awwwww yeah. I was actually awake to see it drop. We got Jin back and he made new friends! Michael just wants to be a father to his child man, its tough.

[@michaelcurtis925]

I’ve never understood the Michael hate. Not 1 of my favorite characters but the man has been going through it and it’s just getting worse. Plus Harold Perrineau’s performance is so good. Another banger reaction in the books.

[@juliet_burke]

Michael's actor is amazing in a main role in tv-show From. Love him in Lost and From! When my 14-years old son watched Lost his most favorite characters were Jack, Sawyer and Michael. He loved the father-son dynamic so much. :-)

[@michaelcurtis925]

@@juliet_burkethat’s awesome! Yea I watch From, looking forward to the new season starting this weekend. Michael’s actor is the only reason I decided to watch it and I’m glad I did, it’s a fun little gem of a show.

[@mecfstraveler]

I'm SO excited for the new season of FROM!

[@juliet_burke]

@@mecfstraveler me too! 3 more days!

[@AneysaJoeJanis]

You missed it but the shark had actually a Dharma logo on its flipper 👀

[@williamcarr7347]

Pause on shark, and frame by frame.

[@AneysaJoeJanis]

Dang we're getting closer and closer to THAT one episode 😂 everyone is dying from excitement 😂

[@CharityDiary]

Surely you're referring to Exposé.

[@AneysaJoeJanis]

@@CharityDiary yeah, no 😆💕😂

[@Jeff_Lichtman]

IMO, Susan had a good case for custody, but a poor one for terminating Michael's parental rights. Generally, parental rights can be terminated involuntarily only if the court finds the parent to be unfit. That would be something like severe alcoholism or drug addiction, or criminality, not just having been excluded from the child's life. And in most cases a custodial parent wouldn't be allowed to take a child to another country against the wishes of the other parent. Just as Susan said, I think Michael would have won the case. But she talked him into signing the papers. Sad. Harold Perrineau, who played Michael, has said he had problems with Michael's story because he felt it played on the stereotype of the absent black father. In rewatching the series, I can't say I agree. Michael tried over and over to be part of Walt's life. That Walt kept being taken from him was not his fault.

[@theshadowfax239]

Absolutely, she would have totally won custody, but if they went to court Michael would have been awarded visitation, and probably most likely on her dime.

[@ShadowDogProduction]

The cliffhangers this season are CRAZY.

[@ds_port]

Needed a break from studying and here you are. Perfect timing. This season changes everything. Quite the roller coaster ride coming.

[@Narte]

Stayed up late and finally got to watch an upload right after it posted! My main problem with Susan was that she didn’t even allow a world where she did her thing and took Walt, but let Michael still have a place in his life. The letters being hidden, no phone calls, nothing. That’s where she crossed the line for me. In a show already filled with daddy issues, Michael tried to not let that happen for Walt in the beginning. Can’t wait for the next one!

[@riel4553]

I think I understand Susan's POV but keeping Walt apart from his bio dad and grandmother was a mistake: obviously she didn't plan on dying but life happens and it seems like she had no other family or backup, so when she died Walt was left completely alone.

[@ShadowDogProduction]

You say Michael would lose in court but the point you made earlier is why he'd win. She doesn't HAVE to go to Rome to provide for Walt. She can do that in the states. And Michael isn't suing for sole custody, he's just trying to keep her from leaving the country. He would probably win THAT narrow goal.

[@AneysaJoeJanis]

1st hour team here 🎉

[@juliet_burke]

🙂yes, we are

[@John_Locke_108]

So you want to know how obsessive Lost fans are? After Episode 1 of this season, we spent a lot of time debating who's shoes those were that Jack saw. It was a huge mystery and the majority of fans, myself included, said that the shoes were too small to be John's. In the forums we compared the shoes in the episode to other screenshots of Kate and Locke's feet. This is how we spent our time between eoisodes. Analyzing the smallest detail. And Locke took off his shoes to be stealthy. And I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the Easter Egg regarding the number 108. It's not significant or a spoiler. Just something to ponder and maybe you'll figure it out. Lastly, Jin was saying, "Udders!" not "Others!".

[@path5657]

I was so excited for your reaction to the shark! You've been talking about it awhile 😂

[@John_Locke_108]

I think he needs to rewatch the scenes where they show the shark. Watch it in slow motion.

[@Eowyn187]

With Sawyer 💯. There's no way I'd stay on that treat with Michael acting like a ten year old in a temper. Love those scenes in the hatch with Des and Locke tho!! And poor Des.. for however long he's been down there, he hasn't had two straight hours of sleep. His brain is exhausted.

[@riel4553]

Susan is not saying that Michael can win custody she's saying that he can prevent her for leaving. So she loses a better-paying job, Michael would be broke, etc. etc. When Michael stopped fighting for Walt then, he was sure that at least Walt would be safe and well-taken care of, Things changed and now Walt has lost everything. Once again, for the greater good Michael should've left Walt at the island but because of their history he didn't want to be separated from him. And now this happens.

[@letsrock1729]

No half-decent parent would leave their 10 year old on an island in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of strangers. Michael taking Walt on the raft has nothing to do with their history. As a parent, wherever you go, your child goes with you...that's just automatic.

[@riel4553]

@@letsrock1729 Lots of parents IRL leave their kids on land instead of taking them on a raft across the ocean, and then arrange things so they can be safely reunited. On the other hand, lots of parents do take them; don't know if you're old enough to remember Elián G's case: he was taken without his father's consent by his mother from Cuba to the US. She died along with 10 other people. Elián made it to the US but was too young for assylum so he was returned to his father.

[@letsrock1729]

@@riel4553 Well, it's not something I could ever have done (because however bad things are, it could very easily be FAR worse for your child without you being there to protect them), but true. However, it's a bit different leaving your child with (presumably) relatives/close friends, which Michael wouldn't be doing if he left Walt on the island. Also, it's one thing to leave your child somewhere temporarily if you actually know where 'somewhere' is....but it would be insane to leave your child in a place you didn't know if you would ever be able to find again. I'm sure I'm old enough (I'm in my 50s) but I'm from the UK, so that case was never on my radar.

[@riel4553]

@@letsrock1729 I'm on the USA side of the pond so there are a lot of raft stories on my radar, and of course the fatal ones are the ones on the news. When LOST presented the raft storyline I kept thinking 'do they really want to take Walt? What if he ends up alone like Elián? At least that raft was on a known route and not so far from land'. Elián's story must've been on the writer's mind. His mother took him away from his father bc she thought it was the best for him; she died and Elián's father had to become Michael before Michael with half the world telling him to just give up his son and let him stay in the US with strangers.

[@letsrock1729]

@@riel4553 Oh my god, this is absolutely tragic. That poor child and his father. It's very possible that I didn't know about this because I've always tried to avoid the news as much as I can for my own mental health. I end up feeling devastated for people I've never met and not being able to get their tragedies out of my head for ages, which isn't helpful for me or anyone else. In terms of the show, if I'd been in Michael's shoes, I would have stayed on the island with my child and let other people go to find rescue. The raft never seemed like a safe plan at all...a tiny vessel like that on a vast depthless ocean is the stuff of nightmares for me.

[@screamr2d2]

Honestly, the older I get the worse I feel for Michael. And Harold Perrineau as well. He's such a phenomenal and, imo underrated, actor and he had to fight tooth and nail to get this episode from his point of view showing Michael actively wanting his son back. I forget who this episode was originally supposed to be focused on, but I do remember Harold being pissed about Michael being written like a stereotypical "black dad" who seemingly doesn't give a shit about his kid. Basically whenever we see a scene that shows how good and caring of a father Michael is, it's because Harold fought for it. It's that kind of behind the scenes information that I found out after the fact that make me resent people like Carlton Cuse and appreciate the actors so much more. Without the actors investing themselves in their characters and fighting for them, there are several of our most beloved characters that would have ended up being carbon copy stereotypes of whatever race and background their portraying for the sake of appearing diverse. The performances we got added depth and made that diversity mean something more than a bunch of white guys trying to pretend to be inclusive in the writing room.

[@mikemoring]

It was originally written to be a Sawyer episode before Harold (rightfully) criticized that decision. It's a minor miracle that they took his criticism to heart-especially considering what we've learned in the intervening years about the unfortunate toxic atmosphere in the Lost writers' room-and the show (certainly this episode) is much better for it. Damon has frequently stated that one of his single biggest regrets about his Lost experience was how under-used and mistreated Harold Perrineau was. It's nice to see that the two of them seem to have buried the hatchet (they appear to have a very amicable relationship on social media, always showing mutual support and singing each others' praises), but I'll always wonder what could've been if they'd truly harnessed the potential Perrineau brought to the table. (And I say this as somebody whose all-time favourite show is Lost.)

[@screamr2d2]

@@mikemoring Exactly, that's what I was alluding to about the writers and Darlton. I was pretty sure it was Sawyer who was supposed to central that episode, but I wasn't a hundo and didn't want to spit false facts. You are absolutely right, it was a minor miracle and I gotta say that since I learned of the struggle I appreciate Michael a lot more.

[@screamr2d2]

@@mikemoring And yeah my take is that Damon isn't a bad guy and probably didn't realize how bad it was, but definitely owned up to not doing anything to make things better. Carlton Cuse is another story. The things I read about him made me feel physically ill.

[@mikemoring]

@@screamr2d2 I think you've hit the nail on the head. It's pretty well publicized that Damon was in way over his head when Lost began-he was barely 30 and suddenly found himself at the helm of a massive, global phenomenon. He had no real leadership experience. He admits that he actually spiralled into utter despair in the early days of the show and basically demanded to have Carlton brought on to help him get things under control and act as a mentor. The irony, of course, is that Carlton-though experienced and ready to crack the whip and play the "strict parent" role to keep things under control-brought a lot of antiquated ideas about leadership with him. And Damon, who had longed for somebody to take on that role and provide the support that Cuse provided, felt-in my estimation, anyway-powerless to intervene when it came to the... less-savoury aspects of Carlton's approach. I still adore Lost, blemishes and all. It's my absolute favourite show in spite of the unpleasantness that some people reportedly experienced behind the scenes. And I still get a kick out of Carlton and Damon's hijinx-I just recently listened to a 20th anniversary interview with Cuse and he came off as delightful and charming and funny as I remember from the Official Podcast days. It's just a shame to know that it was such a painful experience for some people. And it's always unfortunate to learn that somebody you otherwise like is/was so capable of the kind of carelessness that causes distress for others. I have to remember that Lost walked so so many others could run-in so many different ways. And I think the same is true of Damon's time in the writers room on Lost. You can tell that he has made a conscious effort to recognize his past failures and is dedicated to shaping more positive experiences in his creative collaborations. The Leftovers was a huge step forward (and an utter masterpiece) and Watchmen (for which he hilariously replaces Carlton with a newer model) is yet another leap forward in that regard.

[@screamr2d2]

@@mikemoring Yes I agree one hundred percent. My stomach may have dropped when I first heard of all this, and I'll admit I was thoroughly depressed for a few days, but I still live and breathe this show and consider it a success story, BECAUSE it's a rare case where people did actually learn from their mistakes, not to mention the actors loved their characters so well that they stayed and fought for them, and in some cases won. Nothing could diminish my love for this show. Especially knowing how it has effected so many people in the most positive ways. I just don't credit the same people I used to for that. Hell, I used to be so misinformed that I actually thought JJ Abrams was the one responsible for its brilliance! It's embarrassing to admit, but I first watched all six seasons on DVD the year it ENDED, binged in about a month by myself basically in a cave with no outside influence. The only thing I knew at the time was "it's a JJ Abrams production! You gotta watch it!" And I did and it literally saved my life. I'm just happy I'm more informed now.

[@juliet_burke]

I think Sawyer swimming to save a part of raft was a tribute to Cast Away movie with almost the same scene.

[@kimwatchesstuff]

I remember the message boards going crazy when people who paused on the shark saw the Dharma logo on it.

[@vorbis4860]

"Kate saved the Australian guy's life!" Yeah...after endangering it.

[@letsrock1729]

She wouldn't have ended up endangering his life in the first place if he hadn't betrayed her trust by turning her in. I'm sure lots of people would have left him to burn in the truck after a betrayal like that.

[@Alex_Under_Platz]

Finally, the WAAAAAAAAAALT episode

[@notoriousbmc1]

Wait a minute! Does that mean in the Season 1 finale, when the "others" in the boat shot at Sawyer, Jin heard the gun, jumped in the ocean, and swam to shore.😂

[@kantadsvendsgaard488]

Love how you call Rose "Auntie", I think of her that way too, cause I got an Auntie she reminds me of.

[@yarayara5694]

Loved this reaction. What you say about Michael shows that you have a good heart ❤ The theory that you came up with about Susan (that she maybe wanted to spare Michael the financial havoc) is really interesting, you might be right.

[@notoriousbmc1]

*Heads Up!* The Lost 20th anniversary documentary is coming up on Sep 22nd (day of the crash & the pilot) so you'll probably see some stuff about it. Spoilers everywhere.

[@camacho1995]

Let’s gooooo

[@krystal_senem]

verrryy excited for the next one as much as you were for the shark scene :) I'm sure you already watched the next couple :D

[@CharityDiary]

Michael is great, and that actor stars in a newer series called "From" that's also a really good show. Kind of a horror-themed Lost, actually. Same producer too, I think. You don't have to react to it or anything, just a recommendation from myself to anyone reading. Hardly anyone knows about that show.

[@alddovazquez5145]

New suscriber here...from México...

[@eliemoses]

🥹🥹

[@juliet_burke]

From internet (don't google dharma to avoid spoilers!): "Karma and Dharma. Karma is often used interchangeably with Dharma, but there is a difference between the two. Karma results from our past and present actions and those we will perform, while Dharma is righteousness, a moral code of living."

[@Grushdevah]

Michael's lawyer is played by Saul Rubinek. He was in True Romance and Unforgiven, among many. many other supporting roles.

[@serinx]

yeah he is also on an episode of Star trek: TNG. Would love to see a 'True Romance' reaction if Elie has not already seen it.

[@jeffwontshutup]

I don't think it's a spoiler to say the numbers are just the numbers as Hurley used them, not inverted. So 15 and 51 are not the same. That being said there have been instances of a combination of the numbers, like Flight 815 or 8:15am or 8/15 that frequently occur ( there's other combos but I can't recall what's been used on-screen yet so I'll just use those until I remember). Susan is still the worst.

[@PlaskiJakDeska]

That's the SKS rifle, not an AK. That's why the magazine is shorter.

[@georginagiethoorn6543]

Aaron was actually the brother of Moses in the Bible

[@John_Locke_108]

It's also my middle name.

[@TJMalana]

If you pause the video of the shark you will faintly see a DHARMA Logo on it. I didn’t really like this episode very much BUT what I liked is the lack of music during Michaels flashbacks. It allows us to absorb everything going on without the extra melodramatic theatrics.

[@juliet_burke]

Otters! Otters! ;-))))))))

[@eddiegoodheart2162]

22:08 my brother you’re so on top of this show that you’re hitting US with the facts. Fair play lmao

[@linklovezelda]

Would you mind uploading 2 episodes a day more often?

[@Mark-xx3gh]

Do a freeze frame on the shark.

[@steve000070]

4+8+15+16+23+42 = 108

[@wilson0213]

Thanks for not letting him figure this out by himself

[@Marvin.589]

You didn't notice Dharma logo on the shark.. 😢

[@letsrock1729]

Spot on about Susan. She's the only character in the entire show that I genuinely hate, even though many others have done objectively worse.

[@moviesnmuffins]

I haaaaaaaaate Michael already but especially for how he talked to sawyer on the raft/in the water/ever

[@bianca2928]

With the numbers, they really only “count” with how they naturally are. So 4,8,15,16,23,42 and not 1 or 2, 6, etc and not revised ie 32 instead of 23. You’ll go crazy trying to make sense of every numerical reference haha. 😂

[@yarayara5694]

Since you seem to be into shark movies, have you seen 'Open Water'? To me that was one of the most terrifying ones.

[@eliemoses]

Yea name it ive probably seen it. Even seen shartopus hahaahahah. Open water is freaky

[@Mark-xx3gh]

Get used to “WALT!” and “My son!” You’re probably going to hear them one or two more times.

[@wellerfan13]

"are you him"?

[@joselopezforque8745]

Michael was in emotional mode and not in rational mode

[@John_Locke_108]

Not my favorite episode. Being sandwiched between two amazing episodes doesn't do it any favors. Cannot wait for episode 3. Oh boy oh boy oh boy. Easter egg soup coming up.

[@BigMikeKOE]

Wait, LOST is rated M in Australia? Really? LOL In the US, it's TV-14. Sopranos would be MA, for mature audiences.

[@youtpfpm6097]

Bad Susan, Good Michael. It's not that simple in my opinion. 😊

[@artemis2569]

I agree. Everybody is wrong about Susan. She wants to give Walt stability and a family and Michael is a bum that was going to give him to his mother to raise.

[@artemis2569]

You're wrong about Susan.

[@Tzoppo11]

Nah. How she handled the majority of the situation is utterly despicable.

[@artemis2569]

@@Tzoppo11 I don't think so. She handled it like a mother that was doing what was best for her son. Michael was a bum!

[@Tzoppo11]

@@artemis2569 OOOF. Yet another horrendous take.

[@artemis2569]

@@Tzoppo11 excuse me byt how old are you? And can you honestly say after everything that Michael has done that Susan is worse??? He killed two women ffs! What did Susan do except give Walt a family and security and Michael was going to leave him with his mother. That's it. I'm not going to fight with a stranger online about a tv show, but my god, you people are off the rails.

[@Tzoppo11]

@@artemis2569 Good Lord, what an unhinged response. My age has nothing to do with the fact that your comment in calling Mike a bum is absolutely ridiculous. The man showed TREMENDOUS work ethic the entire time he's on the show and worked tirelessly for his son. He also worked to try to save his relationship and salvage that before Susan ran off with Brian. Susan could have provided a life for Walt WITHOUT cutting Mike out completely and utterly. It's one thing to feel like her son would be best off moving with them, it's a TOTALLY different thing manipulating a man to adopt him and force Mike to give up his PARENTAL RIGHTS, especially when he clearly loves Walt and wanted to be a father. It was DESPCIABLE. That will never change. She is far from the most reprehensible character on the show, but acting like she didn't go way too far with cutting Mike out completely is just willful ignorance. Mike has plenty of qualities that are positive, and others that definitely aren't. I don't mind or care if you don't like a particular character, but you're being reductive to a staggeringly foolish degree and giving a pass to one of the most despised characters in the fandom. Susan did some things right by Mike with the medical care and talking to him personally rather than through lawyers in that one scene, but everything else is her going WAY too far to cut a man out of his son's life for no good reason at all. Like I said - horrendous take.

[@aquajaws]

There’s a practical reason why Walt disappears. In the timeline of the show it’s been a month or so. Walt’s (the actors) a 10-13 kid so he’s gonna naturally grow up if a season takes a year to film but is only supposed to be 2 months (or whatever). In six seasons he’d go from 10-16 as an actor…but would still be 10 in the show. So they had an issue to handle

[@krystal_senem]

please refrain from posting comments like this.

[@juliet_burke]

Don't spoil please! Delete it!

[@John_Locke_108]

Dude. Why would you say this. Wtf.

[@wilson0213]

Seriously wtf is this comment

[@Eowyn187]

8:58 15 and 51 are entirely different numbers. Coz it's not about each digit. It's the number 15.

[@maramkura]

michael - the worst father, the worst men, the worst friend, the worst character in the show 😁

[@juliet_burke]

Nope. The worst character in the show is the spot on a ceiling!

[@Tzoppo11]

Horrendous take

[@macontosh2000]

Can't watch the video right now but wanted to get some BTS info in before someone else beat me to it! Episode 2 was originally going to be a Sawyer flashback episode, they went as far as filmed it but realized after filming that either the Sawyer flashbacks didn't work or (most likely) that it didn't make sense for the episode to be centered on anyone but Michael. The deleted Sawyer flashbacks never appeared in the show in any way and what it was rumored to be about never actually became a plot line.

[@jeffwontshutup]

If you listen to the Lost rewatch podcast, The Storm, as well as other sources, you learn that a portion of the discarded Sawyer plot was used for a later Sawyer flashback but with different actors because the actors they used the first time were no longer available. It was supposed to be the story of a con he mentioned aloud in season 1, but when they do eventually recycle it, it's rewritten to fit the Island arc of episode it was finally used in (and no I won't spoil which episode until Elie gets there). But in this episode if you watch closely you can see how some of the flashback cutaways look like they should be on Sawyer but then the camera flips back to a quick shot of Michael to accommodate the rewrite.