Film Theory: How Star Wars Theories KILLED Star Wars: The Last Jedi!

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi quickly became one of the most polarizing movies of 2017. Critics loved it, but audiences HATED it. It's only natural to ask why this might be - who is to blame for this disparity? Well, Loyal Theorists, The Hollywood Reporter has an answer: They think it's ALL MY FAULT! And while this does sound ridiculous, it turns out they're right.
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[@MisfortunateJustice]

Hell. Yes. Matpat. Bring down the giant that is Disney! >=D

[@Brascofarian]

Sycophant

[@nighter9134]

Now predict things about popular game franchises over on Game Theory and you might be able to bring down EA and their loot boxes as well!

[@RICH1FLOYD]

MisfortunateJustice long...live...the king....

[@captaingabes1469]

I guess Mat is a one man army

[@robertlaracuente5494]

MisfortunateJustice fuck Disney fuck them all

[@warwulf1889]

Disney star wars: You turned the Viewers against me? MatPat: You have done that yourself.

[@joecoolberry911]

Underrated comment 👏👏

[@PatriotMapper]

True very true

[@diamondassassin1292]

Why the question mark?

[@LocalLibertarian]

A theory theory in a film theory

[@ziemayet]

@@LocalLibertarian donut in a donut hole

[@MLD.Ltd.]

Basically, mat pat is saying "I'm not the reason your script sucks."

[@bloodbrawler1438]

And the theories others make, the good ones, are basically saying: "We're not movie writers. What's your excuse?"

[@ruppelspoopels]

I thought TLJ was good

[@brendancorey7831]

I mean... it was a good theory. Wow... bad movie writing is trying to blame us?

[@ruppelspoopels]

@@brendancorey7831 I thought JJ's mystery box style of writing, messed up expectations. His pointless nostalgia bait forced people to create meaningless theories that ruined the movie going forward. None of JJ's questions would've lead the movie anywhere, and MatPats complaints were tepid at best.

[@Darkwintre]

His mystery boxes in the hands of a competent could have been used to good effect, but they allowed what appears to be an idiot make this movie without proper or remotely competent pversoght. Like he probably had with Knives Out since he couldn't screw that up!

[@turnip8749]

6:33 so what I think MatPat is trying to say is “we used logic and facts to figure out what we thought would happen , it’s not my fault 95% of your movie’s content came out of nowhere”

[@Starman062]

Should be used to this by now. It’s the entirety of FNAF

[@jakobkiilerich3588]

@Meena Ramakrishnan Lmao star wars fans are retards. If they made a movie it would be the most cliche and cringy pos in the franchise

[@litterbox0192]

if you do the math, that' over half the video of him going on about that

[@Starman062]

@@jakobkiilerich3588 like you’d make a better one

[@whom382]

@@jakobkiilerich3588 And that would still be better than TLJ.

[@blackchibisan8116]

And here we are. 2 years later and we find out that they never had a plan and the fact that they didn’t respect the fans meant that any theory we made couldn’t be the answer because it would mean that we knew how to write their story better than they did and their egos were too big for that.

[@gamblertoguru382]

What they probably should be doing is inviting people like Pat into the writers room. Instead they would rather get upset that he comes up with better ideas.

[@RoyalLegend1000]

@@gamblertoguru382 Exactly

[@anisahmed2331]

@@gamblertoguru382 well making Han Solo Rey daughter is actually bad your making the universe smaller by making people connected to everyone Rey being a no body is good because anyone can be connected to the force but the rise of skywalker ruined it

[@kellenness6046]

MatPat: I’m not making another prediction theory. Also MatPat: So in episode 9...

[@randomuser1249]

he meant this vid

[@theflaasmomflyr8691]

But why mat?

[@micahwilkinson228]

lol makes another pridiction and is WRONG again.

[@rezzarafhan2882]

@@micahwilkinson228 well now hes right

[@pjdianalan7934]

Hes kinda right about Rey being a Palpatine.

[@d.j.krider6727]

Moral of The Story: The critics and writers blames the audience for their failure

[@MrGamelover23]

@@PotatoeSnow You just think that because you can't accept the alternative.

[@edgarwolfe9]

@Mr skeleton it. It has 80% of the audience score. And has more than 50% of the critics score.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

Mateo at least 47% of viewers enjoyed the movie. Just because they don’t make angry reviews online doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

well said...............well said.......

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

No one can say what I said in a half-paragraph of a comment better than you.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... .............................................................................................................................................Well said

[@dezmondsharp2436]

Madpat just blows my mind at this point, Disney comes out of nowhere and blames there mistakes on what they call " far fetched theory's " then Madpat comes back with the truth on what the mistakes were. You're a Legend 😮😮😮

[@Persholm1]

MatPat* their*

[@tejaskarthickthangaperumal9530]

"Far fetched theory" is the one that makes more sense than whatever that movie was

[@Abc86aik]

Imagine blaming a small yt channel for one of the centuries biggest movie brands flopping.

[@echo.romeo.]

😅 This channel isn't THAT small. It was just used as a poster child for other channels.

[@lindylou538]

SMALL hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha

[@danese1636]

One of the century's biggest movie brands flopping? No no no. You see, simply putting Star Wars on something could make money. Disney just fucked up *that badly.*

[@ziemayet]

Almost 10 million subscribers Ok dude .

[@yoda2495]

@Stephan dorf solely because ppl were willing to give star wars sequels another chance after episode 7, and were disappointed

[@TierZoo]

I feel like you've articulated why I'm frustrated with TLJ better than I could for myself. Thank you for this video MatPat.

[@chrissoto7187]

TierZoo omg dude what’s up can you do The rodent clan In your next video or do pandas 🐼

[@UltraConstructor]

Lol I can't believe your here.

[@TierZoo]

Why not? MatPat makes great vids and I like great vids.

[@danyelsparesus5621]

TierZoo i love you

[@ucouco78]

Damn 2 of my favorite youtubers,yay!

[@cheeseisgud1152]

Rey: here is your father's lightsaber. One of the most important things in this galaxy. The thing that started your entire Jedi career. Luke: * yeets it off a cliff and goes to drink some ballsack monster milk *

[@nathanielbass771]

funny thing is, to me it looked like half the movie was written by the previous director and time constraints killed both movies. Who does that to an icon in the first movie and yeah, everyone was an expletive in the second movie but they were in the first movie too, so, idk

[@samuelneil2691]

How to destroy Mark Hamill's legacy as Luke Skywalker in less than 30 seconds

[@janabrown5816]

@@samuelneil2691 more like 1 second for die hard fans.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

cheeseisgud 115 the same lightsaber that slaughtered younglings and gives him memories of when he found out the truth about his father. Yeah like he would want that lightsaber.

[@cheeseisgud1152]

@@WatchThisSpace415 first of all, he didn't know about the younglings. and second of all, luke isn't the type to disregard something because of bad memories.

[@closerhawk687]

Critics: I’m about to end this mans whole career Mat pat: haha haha. No. REVERSE CARD

[@Gamerboy-it6dt]

Matpat: "Leia having force powers" Me in 2020: "You don't know how true this is"

[@Michael18599]

The problem is not that the fan theories weren't true. The problem is that the fan theories were so much better than what was shown in the actual movie.

[@connorbingham-davis2091]

An interesting idea. Which theories caught your attention before TLJ was released?

[@scailliet]

@@connorbingham-davis2091 My number 1 theory before seeing TLJ, was that Rey is a Palpatine. I shall still hold onto that theory until episode 9 confirms or denies it, haha.

[@koolmckool7039]

@@scailliet And that was a theory that I'm glad is dead.

[@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive]

nah. those theories were glorified fanfiction

[@MasterofEternalNight]

@@connorbingham-davis2091 Rey being a Skywalker especially Luke's daughter just seemed to be a given, why else would Luke and Anakin's Lightsaber be calling out to her specifically in TFA, that entire thing makes no sense with her turning out to be a nobody. A theory that I would like to have been true but probably wouldn't have been by a long mile was the Darth Darth Binks theory with Jar Jar being Snoke or something.

[@joemorton9200]

Theories dont ruin movies. Theories hype up movies. No one goes in with a check list to star wars. The movie should be incredible and should leave you thinking, that was better than my movie. If the fans are the majority saying it's bad, its bad

[@juanfrancocastillo4272]

Fax not us who makes it look bad it’s just Disney being trash (vErY rArE

[@arafe.1012]

sure we don;t walk in with a physical checklist, how bout a mental checklist. Some fans want everything like how they want it... just watch mat's super smash bros ending explained on game theory. the expections from fans r sometimes so high and pushed that the creator literally put an ingame villain which represent the toxic parts of a fanbase

[@joemorton9200]

Araf Ezaz yes but if your mental checklist doesn’t represent the movie, are you mad. The only checklist I go in with is Good story Good characters Character development It’s not the fans fault episode 8 wasn’t well received

[@efulmer8675]

@@joemorton9200 You are mistaking fan enthusiasm for critic enthusiasm. The whole reason MatPat started on this theory in the first place was 'Why do critics love this movie and fans hate it?' This the opening of the video and the original question. That checklist of the 'Five points of Story', Characterization, Character growth, Plot, Setting, and Theme are exactly what the critics looked at (and maybe one or three for camera work and effectiveness of visuals/visual storytelling) but fans don't look for those in the same way. We as fans look primarily for Character Growth and Plot.

[@joemorton9200]

@@efulmer8675 I was referring to rian johnsons comments

[@popppy113]

who else is watching this during quarantine kinda giggling whenever he makes a false prediction about who Reys parents are? 😂😂

[@RockmanProductions6000]

It’s always hilarious when people make predictions about movies, then they come out and it turns out they were totally wrong

[@micahorsburn5786]

I am lel

[@SonOfSaintDumas]

Me

[@chrisnorris3641]

ya nobody could have predicted the truth cause tbe truth is so absurd that it makes zero sense. the daughter of Vader and son of Palpatine. ok I can guess that palpy may have raped some poor woman or used the force somhow to impregnate them, but Vader spent many years trying to bring back his beloved padme. it's not likely that he loved anyone else.

[@danese1636]

Quarantine has driven me into sheer madness. Run...

[@macknight2352]

I had many theories for Endgame, and I still loved the movie

[@felipea1399]

Yes, but in Endgame case the movie isnt weird compsred with the rest of the trilogy

[@JJohnston4Life]

Endgame was a great movie. Star Wars 7-9 is not.

[@money3644]

9 was actually not bad but 8 was the worst one yet

[@idiot4177]

now that's a movie done well.

[@AmateurVase]

Maybe because it was a genuinely good movie

[@manuelgardete6187]

Game theory: ruins nintendo Film theory: ruins disney Its confirmed. Matpat is the one bringing chaos to our world. I knew it! But hey... That's just a theory!

[@WaffleClouD]

Manuel Gardete Chaos Theory!

[@malcolmmacinnis247]

Manuel Gardete A conspiracy theory!

[@helloworldhe]

Manuel Gardete And cut! (the internet in half)

[@helloworldhe]

Literally

[@cookiecutter4431]

Like atilla the hun, he shall wake the world, once again!

[@Kat_WithTheHat]

I avoided all the spoilers for 2years before I watched it a few months ago. It consisted of plugging your ears and going "lalalalalalalalalala" and the occasional "nah nah nah nah nah nah I can't hear you" But sometimes they unplug your ears to annoy you, it works of course, and you scream in their face "NeoooooooooooooooooOOOooOOooO0" Then forcefully move your arms back, and run.

[@Frostigerhund1793]

Matpat: times change, tastes change Me: *Doom is Eternal*

[@niagargoyle]

Another issue I have with the whole discussion is that a lot of people think that you can either love the movie or hate it, as if there were no middle ground. I had fun watching the movie. It was entertaining from beginning to end. But every time I talk about how jarring it was when things just fizzled out with no payoff or happened with no lead up, everyone assumes that I hated the show.

[@jasonskeans3327]

Mark Ritzman i know right

[@mortiiciiansassiistant]

Preach. It's the same for me.

[@hungryhungryhobo196]

I didn't hate it, I didn't like it. Over all I was just disappointed with it. There where things I liked, things I didn't. Overall it just a "meh" movie I have no interest in seeing again.

[@mg-ve2zf]

I didn't like the character that Fin traveled with (don't even remember her name lol), found some of the humor to be distracting, didn't like the lack of logic, and it just didn't feel like a sequel to The Force Awakens (That's not a horrible thing but imo it was just one of the flaws of THIS movie). People I know have acted shocked when I've pointed these things out as if I had hated the movie. They don't even let me point out things like how stunning the visuals and camera work is, or how interesting the camera work and editing are, or how beautiful the soundtrack is, or how much of a great character Kylo Ren is. This movie is in no way a bad movie. It was entertaining and charming. It wasn't a pure masterpiece, but it was a pretty great movie. But almost no one wants to have an actual conversation about it. If I start with the things I disliked about the movie, people cut me off and tell me that I'll just eat up anything I watch. If I start with the negative, people will defend the movie like it's their child.

[@dakotahrickard]

"i'm right there with you. There's very little moderation anymore. We're all about extreme polarization in this day and age: love it or hate it, us or them, with us or against us, left or right... It's kind of ridiculous, really.

[@rafadnan9796]

Holy crap when matpat said 'the odd1sout just released a new video' I got a notification for the odd1sout.

[@tartarus1322]

rafmanyoloswag woah

[@Deoster]

rafmanyoloswag My splling?

[@JJPlayzGames]

The Artists Desk I don't weally know

[@GhostAyer]

Pwobly

[@Ackari]

I just watched that video before watching this one

[@sorosaltgaming]

Last jedi: lets badly subvert your expec- Rise of Skywalker: Hold my failure

[@p.c6175]

1:46 don't hate on me, but I freaking love the prequels

[@FifthRobin]

Same

[@colorin81colorado]

I saw the Star Wars back in 1977 and I loved it long before anyone was talking about Star Wars. I too love the prequals and the animated Clone Wars. Chapter 7,8 and 9 did nothing for me, they were made by extremely talented movie makers but they had no love for the story. They were made by greedy creators trying to use Star Wars as a vehicle for their own ill agendas... I dislike the malice behind Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy & co. The original movies were never perfect but they were fresh, new and fun (with a sprinkle of darkness) but the last three were made with a clear dislike for the first 6 and were just political statements about everything but what they should have been. Shame on them!

[@colorin81colorado]

There is so much to love about the prequals though they were not perfect. And yet they belong along side with the originals were the last three Disney movies do not.

[@georgemurdock7670]

@@colorin81colorado the prequels where hated on too when they got released, and 7-9 is not that much worse then 4-6. everything people criticized on these movies could also be applied to 4-6.

[@SiddharthShenoy]

@@georgemurdock7670 lol no, episodes 7,8 and 9 were way worse than episodes than 1 to 6.

[@pseudonymousgarbage8]

Matt Pat, you are not ruining movies. You are improving them. What you say is better than what the movies say. Magic=drugs, matrix= trap ect. Keep on for the love of God!

[@ostrichfam9273]

Everything But Reversed awe I’ve seen you in other videos this is so cool

[@thatwhichstaresback]

Thanks Russia

[@CmrSchmidlap]

which video was "magic=drugs"?

[@Selvariabell]

Ironic that this comes from the heart of Communism herself.

[@amyhart168]

Agreement

[@Dammitimmad]

You still need to reenact the scene MatPat

[@aaronmckillip7885]

Dammitimmad All in good time, my friend. All in good time.

[@thenaturedoge1869]

I managed to avoid the spoilers

[@yan87433]

Agnes Clara hey, perfect timing

[@RushGamma]

Dammitimmad Hes not gonna do it

[@ohbot4836]

Dammitimmad ń

[@howler2158]

I'll say this much, my friends asked me to see this film the first week it was released. I only really saw a few trailers. I had a higher hope because Episode 7 did fairly well. To think theories, too much variety in the cast, too many new characters, or whatever the reason being the film was bad, seems narrow minded. It was just a bad film, not even just a bad Star Wars film. I can say this with a lot of confidence simply because I sat down through Episodes 1-3, and I only had an odd complaint here and there. The pacing was rushed at some points, stood still at others. Things seemed to be out of place, as if the direction they wanted to go in, stopped, then started and then repeated. The real nail in the coffin for me was every major development seemed to be there just to cause a reaction and not to further the story. I know this is just an individual option, but you just seem to tell that this is a Star Wars movie in name only, a testament to a fans image of the franchise rather then a honest continuation of a story millions love and have loved for decades.

[@bamboozledan]

I laughed way too hard, I didn't realise how influencing that video was, Matpat you're way too powerful. 😂

[@hleroklite]

I laughed so hard this whole episode... your theories are awesome, I love every one of them, but they have NEVER ruined a movie or game for me.

[@the_criminal_mastermind]

Hleroklite same me and my mom thought the last Jedi was amazing

[@shirider3632]

STAR Man well it was ok

[@zoeyjohnson5124]

Same

[@robertlit978]

Ditto

[@babycartesian944]

His chest isn’t weird, it’s just that his pants were really high up, they were past his belly button. I haven’t watched the video yet and he probably didn’t even mention it but I just needed to say this to someone

[@BrytteM]

SKADOOSH He probably had a tight fabric around the low part of his torso, where Chewbacca shot him

[@kallumfitz3066]

SKADOOSH I was liturely gonnan do that

[@BigT.Larrity]

Ben Swolo is best girl

[@Spreehox]

I mean, he is swolo

[@justinthompson6364]

The way he stood was weird too.

[@disbeafakename167]

Oh bless your heart Matpat, the writers ruined Starwars, not you. I've gotten much more entertainment from you than the last 8 installments.

[@KingJake-om7yq]

I loved both Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker. “I have the death sentence in 12 systems!”

[@ChillMonger]

lol idk why this made me laugh

[@KingJake-om7yq]

@@ChillMonger because I’m funny

[@demons6521]

@@KingJake-om7yq yes but if you had death sentences in 12 systems, the empire or the first order would hunt you down because of your crimes and....... whyactualy you have death sentences in 12 SYSTEMS?

[@KingJake-om7yq]

@@demons6521 it’s a quote from ANH

[@KingJake-om7yq]

@Ahsoka Tano but you’re a far better character than Rey

[@athenayu5855]

Matpat: talks about psychology Also Matpat: talks about science, quantum physics ALSO MATPAT: analysing movies and tv shows from eng lit perspective and trailers and blah blah blah... HOW CAN HE BE THIS PERFECT HE KNOWS EVERYTHING

[@Branden2050]

It's called putting in effort and research on the topic you want to present about prior to presentation. There is no way he just knows and has this info on stand by in his brain. XD

[@EmeraldHero]

suck up

[@Dave-zi7jn]

He is made of information

[@gupperbottomsbannana6096]

@@EmeraldHero oK bOoMeR

[@dodominoe4461]

One word: Google

[@pandukartosedono4107]

It's sad ya know. We will never see Luke, Han and Leia in action on the screen ever again, the team's gone.

[@micahneufeld5839]

Luke may come back as a force ghost.

[@Santeneal]

Pandu Kartosedono well what if luke is still alive? Luke sent a force ghost then faded what if Luke double force ghosted

[@Carewolf]

The only character still left alive in Star Wars is dead in the real world.

[@alexanderfrye2688]

Is everyone forgetting abot Chewbacca, Lando, C3PO and R2-D2?

[@pandukartosedono4107]

SmallFry Interactive Well never see Chewbacca and Han again :( thanks for reminding me,

[@Lillylafrog]

3:57 I figured out what his new channel's going to be, theory theory!

[@ralcogaming7674]

I watched this forever ago but I came back to say: the fans never made the story about Rey's parents the writers did it was her whole motivation, yes we speculated because they made it matter!

[@ForestRaptor]

And the lesson here is, her parentage was important to her, but to grow, she needed to look past that... but seems a lot refused that lesson.

[@WulfieZi]

How I avoided spoilers for 2 months. Step #1: Sign up for the US Army Step #2: Basic Combat Training

[@TimJSwan]

Don't let them give you mercury amalgams.

[@salvab13]

MOS? that happened to me for Wonder woman

[@unikorn2856]

How I got spoilers the day after The Force Awakens was released in theaters: School. I'm still mad at those people. "I CAN'T BELIEVE KILO REN KILLED HAN SOLO" That made me so mad, and "THAT MOVIE WAS SO RACIST, FINN DIED AND REY WAS ABLE TO GET HIM" Ok so thats sexist and also Rey has the force. Idiot. (Not you the person who said it)

[@Overcrow03]

Han Solo dies! HAAAA

[@MrNin10dope]

Me too. Air Force

[@hattieleasure8564]

You avoid spoilers by sitting in your room alone and avoiding all people. Or that’s just me...

[@iguanashishkebabs4886]

Hattie L. No.when you avoid spoilers you don’t go on Reddit

[@gelubra44]

I did the same D:

[@mightbearobot]

cool

[@gxtmfa]

How do you avoid cabin fever?

[@gregknight1989]

Personally, I prefer to go too work for 12 hours a day & throw things at people who try to spoil movies I haven't seen yet.

[@ehhhhhh1885]

Awe man, MatPat I loved your theories! It's sad that they hate them... You put a lot of time and effort into your theories.

[@stickmatt6391]

''HOW THEORIES KILLED STAR WARS!" *Continues to make a theory about star wars*

[@kelwilli827]

Actually, Admiral Holdo never "planned" on doing that awesome lightspeed thing. It was only after she thought it was her last resort. Otherwise, why wouldn't the other ships do it as well before they were destroyed? It was a complete improvisation.

[@ApMatZe]

well fun fact: that "awesome lightspeed thing" would have also been a hyperspace thing which makes said move entirely impossible according to star wars lore be cause hyperspace just does not work that way it also makes no sense because if u could do something like that to destroy big starships why wouldnt u just build small fighters and autopilot them via hyperspace (ergo lightspeed) into big enemy ships?

[@jacksonclemons6204]

Just makes me wonder what were they thinking did they just assume that the first order wouldn't notice thirtysomething ships flying towards a planet and if these really are transport ships then the first order could easily figure out who was in them. It was a dumb plan to begin with

[@brentc2411]

Why did she just watch the transports getting picked off, instead of, oh idk, positioning her 3km long heavily shielded about to die anyways cruiser between the enemy fire and the defenseless transports?

[@kelwilli827]

The ship was too slow to get in the way

[@mr.outlaw231]

Admiral Holdo is still a horrible... well, Admiral. "Let me not talk about my plans, and instead just let you cause a mutiny for no apparent reason." "Let me make fun of a soldier for actually thinking about saving *the frickin crew* and just call him a hothead." "Let me not turn around and do the hyperspace thing and instead just watch as ships blow up one by one." And she's supposed to be a war hero before she takes command? Where did she get her training from?

[@bluegrapegaming5732]

Was anyone else disappointed when they showed that X-Wing in the ocean but didn't have Luke lift it out as a reference to Yoda doing the same because I seem to be the only one

[@willphillips2522]

Blue Grape Gaming the movie was trying to do exactly the opposite of what everybody expected

[@ernestop7454]

Blue Grape Gaming I thought he was gonna teach Rey how to lift it

[@funkyplaysgames]

A little bit, yeah. I mean, I liked the movie but the scene where Leia was suppose to die? Threw me off so much.

[@MrEffectfilms]

Blue Grape Gaming that was a red herring, meant have us not question how Luke got to Krait before it's revealed that he's an astral projection. It's basically the opposite of checkovs gun. Rather than showing something to set something else up you're showing it to throw people off to what's really going on.

[@mrkoskos1]

@Will Phillips Which is why it flopped

[@xd_mystyyyyy]

His reasoning is tied into what Jay Exci says. Here’s a quote: “Stakes (are built off) cause and effect” I know that quote was from the RoS review and not a TLJ review but it still stands in this context. ART👏🏾I👏🏾FIC👏🏾AIL👏🏾PLOT👏🏾LINES👏🏾DO👏🏾NOT👏🏾WORK👏🏾

[@darkfalcon7856]

Really late to the party, but there is the Dunning-Kreuger Effect that does also come into place, in relation to the confidence to knowledge ratio, at the earlier stages that can come into play; but you generally go through enough material to counteract that early hump, thus, generally, eliminating the Dunning-Kreuger Effect.

[@michaelryall5752]

You really made sense with what the MAIN problems in the film are. And those are the MANY MacGuffins in the movie. To use a MacGuffin wisely to throw off the audience and keep them guessing or for an introduction is great. Hitchcock used them, the intro of Raiders uses one well. But Last Jedi had soooo many throw away plot devices and build ups that you just stop caring. Examples: Luke's lightsaber Rey's parents Snoke's pupose/reason to exist Captain Phasma AGAIN Leia's swan song Holdo's character and motivations Finn/Rose storyline They ALL make you think they are important or relavent to the saga, and they are either tossed aside or are so pointless they just seem to be a waste of screen time. Now let me be CLEAR! I think Last Jedi is overall a GOOD movie. It is awesome with effects that won't be dated too quickly with actors who play their parts, whether I like them or not, well. Not to mention some epic action scenes. I watched the prequel trilogy and this is ahead of them all. It is great, except in some areas it's not so great. It allows for much more to come with episode 9...and no one is thinking it is going to ripoff the Return of the Jedi after this.

[@mljh11]

Spot on. You have to wonder about the agenda of this film's defenders when they keep trying to find scapegoats to bash for the hate surrounding it. It's particularly despicable when they lump together people who dislike this movie into neat - but wrong - little categories (like the alt-right) to fit their distorted worldview.

[@charlieshin9868]

Michael Ryall just write

[@mrcristaldo]

Michael Ryall Ryan and KK shot themselves in the foot

[@i8u2manytimes]

Being a DanganRonpa fanboy I thought it was sending a message that sometimes no matter what you do, you can't fight back, they always had that glimpse of hope, it being hidden a bit, things go right again, they have it just in their grasp, then it crashes and sacrifices must be made. I enjoy these story lines used in war movies. Example of this in the 8th Starwars movie is definitely the fin and rose story arc and the salt mine arc. (On my phone, will type it later)

[@coopercruzeiro8703]

Yeah, I can understand why people would be disappointed but for me I liked the way they misled what was what because it surprises you. For me at least it was a good surprise.

[@neo-taiga4365]

Hahaha, listening to MatPat say, "If you've avoided spoilers for a month..." I legit just realised I've avoided spoilers for a month. *HOW!?*

[@neo-taiga4365]

Funny thing is, I don't plan on watching the movie. So I don't mind spoilers. :P

[@caseyarchibald981]

Saaaame

[@masonmccauley4539]

And I legit just realised that that is not possible

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

I had a hard enough time going a few days of avoiding spoilers before I had a day off to go see it... I work at a movie theater. >,

[@ReneMcLaren]

Same, I ran into a lot of spoilers ar first but forget them now

[@rainbowglass8319]

5:24 😂 delete this when all fixed Me : u had one job

[@Dandidoodles]

Matpat: * does a theory * The sequel: I'm about to end this man's hole career.

[@moltpong]

Is anybody else waiting for the third channel, Conspiracy theory

[@polar4415]

And Survival Theory..

[@Knijnen66]

I would subscribe in a nanosecond

[@godzilla3768]

*fourth

[@andrewramlall3560]

I'm kinda hoping for Book Theory, as lame as it sounds

[@thewolfpaladin1858]

Im not cause matpat is a well know idiot

[@TheChroNikler498]

No wonder Disney won't invite MatPat to any of their red carpets.

[@Dia-Sabah]

lol

[@alfonsomena8141]

Nick Wilcox get a dog.

[@Eclipse-mf6hc]

Every time I see something in a movie/tv show I say “that’s going to be important later!” To a point where it ticks off my relatives

[@L.Reeves]

I love that the man who has developed a reputation for overanalyzing things just blindly accepted being thrown under the bus without even considering that these people care more about their agenda than their art and are willing to pay off or intimidate critics into towing the line. But hey, that's just a theory, A we live in a dystopian reality where logic is slowly becoming illegal theory.

[@deoxysgaming1280]

This is what happens when Disney doesn't sponsor Matpat Watch out Diet Coke

[@arwen8883]

Deoxys Gaming actually they have, DuckTales

[@deoxysgaming1280]

Adrian Anderson but he had to beg for it after he made many Disney theories

[@billwest4172]

When I watched the last Jedi.. it literally felt like it was directed by someone who has never even seen Star Wars 😔

[@Edgar-Friendly]

Rian Johnson wrote Hate Fiction.

[@thomaslewis247]

Nah he definitely made a point with introducing things in one act and then not doing anything with them in the next. Kinda like how Fin and Rey had such a dynamic in the first movie and then they literally don’t talk at all and Rey doesn’t even think about him in the next.

[@DayvidSchricker]

MatPat: I ruined Star Wars Fans: they’ve done that themselves

[@MereImitation]

Star Wars: This is the last time you make a fool out of me! MatPat: I made you a hero. You did the fool thing all by yourself.

[@JackSmith-lj7tc]

What is the name of the movie that qoute from it sounds really familiar

[@MereImitation]

@@JackSmith-lj7tc Megamind

[@JackSmith-lj7tc]

@@MereImitation thanks I love that movie I don't know y I didn't get the reference

[@sonicinfinity1871]

Do tell when MatPat “made Star Wars hero”. Seriously, what does that even mean?

[@MereImitation]

@@sonicinfinity1871 The articles were saying fan theories (MatPat's included) got people hyped for the sequel trilogy and excited to see how things would play out (making them a hero). But then the movies we got were full of continuity errors and plot holes (doing the fool thing by themselves).

[@lemxntart6362]

When MatPat takes over Disney there will be no Micky Mouse but Catpat as the new mascot

[@thebatman1234]

Matpat is so strong that he can take down a giant studio that makes our childhood

[@quaintdacraftyyt7038]

Matpat: You shouldn't eat until 30 mins after swimming because you'll get cramp- Random ad: CUT!

[@JonSolo]

Woo! Thanks for the inclusion, homie!

[@weedaiextra292]

Good job jon

[@randylizotte]

I cheered a bit too when Jon solo was the first on his list hah

[@Eclipse-mf6hc]

Well if it isn’t my favourite channel which reveals the messed up origins of everyone’s beloved characters?

[@louise6093]

I could just HEAR your voice.

[@morganbucaille3529]

WOO! YEAH BABYYYYY!!!!

[@wolfsbergarts727]

Did he actually mention James?!(TheOdd1sOut) Oh KZbin gods, you have granted me the best gift ever!

[@burritobeast0212]

Wolfsberg Arts same

[@burritobeast0212]

Theodd1sout

[@bruhmomento007]

Wolfsberg Arts You mean TheMemeOnesOut?

[@alexj.5207]

Cameron Ferrell same thing

[@PehoX]

When? Can you tell me the time when he did it on the video?

[@ArjunRaviFunniestManOnEarth]

1:26 “if you still haven’t seen it” Me who doesn’t watch Star Wars and has therefore avoided spoilers for 4+ years now

[@Mer_girl]

Matpat, the biggest threat to the Disney Empire...

[@hopeelizabeth6916]

My one critique of the Last Jedi is that the 'purple hair lady' should have been Admiral Akbar because Akbar was such a remembered character while no one is emotionally attached to this newer character, they killed him off so quickly and should have used the audiences familiarity to round out a character

[@werewolfofoblivion7287]

Could be that they didn't do it because Ackbar's voice actor passed away.

[@CherryFlower24]

Hope Elizabeth oh please. Life isn't all roses and rainbows. People we like die, it happens.

[@bobthebuilder4173]

oh please. It's a fantasy movie not a documentary.

[@AranMELTDOWN1]

Or you know someone named Ackbar kamikazing into the ship is going to totally go over everyones head

[@KekoaUS]

Hope Elizabeth yea cuz if he went they could have used the line “You fell into my Trap” if he launched himself into their ship

[@adasmikulskas9191]

well the key to avoid spoilers is to not have friends

[@SchleyerZed]

Adas Mikulskas I second this statement

[@Merilirem]

Well not have friends and not interact with media on any level.

[@theharderkickz8934]

i dont have friends but ive always wanted them :(

[@annapowell9203]

As a writer, it's my goal to get someone to theorize about my work. I want to tie everything in. I want everything to be logical. I want to set up a world where my character's choices make sense. To blame bad film making on the fans disliking bad writing is just stupid. It shows how little effort they put into it and how little they care.

[@Adrian-fn2yg]

I love how they find it easy to blame MatPat for the expectations and still make an horrible movie

[@graldytirtakumala4372]

"If you still haven't seen The Last Jedi and somehow avoided spoilers for over a month, but still don't want it spoiled for you." Laugh in watching The Last Jedi in 2020

[@jarretthollifield8829]

Bruh same I just watched it 4 days ago and before that I totally forgot it existed

[@magicrover7067]

i still haven't watched it till now lol

[@magicrover7067]

and than a random "person" appeared out of nowhere in 2022 and haven't watched it yet

[@nichsa8984]

@@jarretthollifield8829 star trek cause copyright not allowed using military epic armored suit plated

[@arafe.1012]

@@magicrover7067 person, the word is person

[@smolcatdayz9054]

TheOdd1sOut!!!! James and Matpat are on trending : )

[@gabriella9357]

VirgilEmerald 's I know I freaked out too when he mentioned him

[@the_REAL_Worstdreamywinzar]

Hate to break it to you but the s equals weren't ruined because of you. They just had really bad writing.

[@matthewlugardo4223]

I watched the Last Jedi without watching any theories, but I still hated it.

[@micahphilson]

Still hasn't reenacted that scene from the Room, half a year later. Either way, theories never ruin the movie for me (especially when they turn out to be wrong and not spoilers), and in fact point out details I'd have missed otherwise, making me so much more aware of what's going on!

[@lilielf5652]

Me too!

[@rrwright]

Good comment

[@micahphilson]

Good reply!

[@TALKINGtac0]

Psychology doesn't lie.

[@joaquincortes6038]

Well, it did for me because the star wars return of the jedi was complete carbo for me as a star wars fan

[@TheCultureshock101]

Congratulations, MatPat! You're number 1 on Trending! You know what this means? WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!

[@connman9783]

TheCultureshock101 lol

[@TheOlian04]

Except that he isn't #1 on trending

[@soobred2672]

TheCultureshock101 HEY

[@celestia277]

DEAD MEME

[@abcabrera1121]

*plays saxophone*

[@jimitshah8966]

Yes dude, the urge of fans to constantly speculate makes them want things to go in one direction. Nobody wants to be surprised at the movies anymore. TLJ did very unique things and strayed away from what was done before but did fans want that ? No ! The fans just want the watch the same thing over and over again. The force awakens followed almost the same template to the OG star wars and people loved it. But as soon as you deviate from the story and characters a bit you receive backlash. The reason critics like it is because they want to see something new. If you dont believe this another example is the alien franchise. As soon as Ridley Scott attempted a different vision with Prometheus, Alien fans were like this is a new and original story we don't want it. Give us the same thing over and over again with slight modifications. Thats why covenant suffered.

[@sacredbeastzenon]

Cope. Andor is very different and amazing. It you want to sUbVeRt ExPeCtAtIoNs the writing has to be really good. You also have to have a decent understanding of the property to pull it off. Cobra Kai is a perfect example. Josh Heald, Jon Hurwitz, and Hayden Schlossberg are massive Karate Kid fans. They love the property and dreamed about how world would evolve. If only Disney hired the equivalent people for Star Wars. Besides, TFA is trash too. I've been saying from the beginning that Rey is a Mary Sue.

[@akish302]

Hollywood and the media blame regular people for the failure of their movies rather than actually learning and growing from less successful films? Who would’ve guessed?!

[@kevisdoingsomething3123]

I'll fully admit that when MatPat mentioned TheOdd1sOut I went full on fanboy.

[@Mj1343_]

[ KevIsDoingSomething ] lol same

[@ATR2400-2]

IKR

[@ryan-wn5ef]

ikr

[@Alexdiggerman]

Creeper869 SAME DUDE

[@themightypancake5695]

Same here bro

[@griffingamingxp]

Just from reading the title, I agree. 2 years ago I went into TFA so ready for Darth Jar Jar

[@talosbitch8434]

Griffin I would’ve loved that.

[@BigT.Larrity]

Darth Jar Jar is still my head canon

[@Blukeylukey]

Griffin they should have done that

[@NoESanity]

Jar Jar adopted an orphan and is now the barney of naboo.

[@selinnazsur2328]

Jar Jar being a Sith lord would make me interested in this franchise.

[@WuchtaArt]

"Dismissal of everything that came before" That's not how you write a trilogy

[@pommedeter7407]

Plus since everyone was expecting Rey's parents to be known and important, that would have made a boring twist. But revealing that Rey's´ parents were no one, was a good twist. And also it was necessary for the character dev of Rey

[@lucascampelo1973]

And then they threw it away at Rise of "Skywalker"

[@GayFroge]

My main problem with the movie was that it seemed to tease interesting risky stuff, only to take it back. "Oh my god, Leia just died!" Nevermind, she suddenly has has the force and didn't die in the explosion or vacuum of space. Or more importantly, how they spend two movies trying to show that Kylo has some light in him and Rey has some darkness in her. Then, at the climax of that arc, when the first order cruiser is in flaming pieces, snoke is dead, and the Rebel fleet is about to be destroyed, Kylo offers to let the past die out, so that they can start a new future. One without light and dark, without imperial or rebel. Something new, something to break the cycle of violence spanning like 8 movies. But then nah they fight over a lightsaber for 30 seconds and take it all back. Like, I enjoyed the movie over all, but it kinda felt like they were just saying "Nothing really had any consequence, the sith and jedi will continue to fight forever, because we like money."

[@OverdosedDrop]

hey that deathless leia scene was badass

[@Dalipsingh111111]

Youre right. But honestly, they did so much interesting risky stuff, (like snokes death) and maybe just didnt want to break that much walls.

[@Jmanclub-vd7mg]

Alex P, agreed they keep juggling things

[@cameronkhawaja2595]

"Tell a lie a thousand times and it will become the truth." -Joseph Goebbles

[@EmilyBenoist]

Cameron K. Do you find yourself quoting the good doctor regularly? Might want to look into that.

[@theoracle5130]

Cameron K. You get an iron cross.

[@petra7423]

Cameron K. Cool profile picture, and yeah, definitely true

[@TheRezro]

That is what haters doing now.. they literally don't even try debate. If someone counter they obvious bullshit they go spamming "Last Jedi is a shajt" somewhere else until it become a truth.

[@leontrotsky4347]

You’re quoting the lead nazi propagandist you fucking bastard

[@mutekigamer4149]

I some how avoided spoilers for 2 years by not even knowing about its existence

[@Nexusdrawsss]

13:20 you see those dots in the corner? I was trying to clean them off my screen for 5 minutes before realizing it was the background

[@DivusMagus]

well when a youtuber's fan theory is better then the actual multi-million dollar movie. you have a serious problem.

[@rachelthornton4442]

You are tearing me apart, MatPat!

[@jynxed66six54]

oh, hi mat!

[@jayng9417]

Aye congrats on your comment on KZbin.

[@rachelthornton4442]

Jay Ng Aw thank you! Greetings from Ireland x

[@vampstarzz]

Rachie And The Waves Congrats on being in the vid

[@Veryvoidlove]

Rachie And The Waves literally me 😭😭😭

[@roniohayon6573]

How to not get spoilers A. Have no friends B. Thats it

[@darknesspacman6557]

1:34 well mattpat I only watched all the starwars movies in 2020 and I am surprised to say that the only thing that was spoiled to me is the “I am your father “ moment . How did that happen is simple. In my account I had never searched or watched anything related to film-production or clips or tv shows.

[@Autonomic]

The whole disgust with the movie isn't solely based on theories. Its based on canon as well. Why are we to assume that "as Kylo gains more power his opposite in the light rises as well to bring balance" is good enough? This entire franchise prior to this was telling the audience that no matter how much potential power a force user has (even Anakin), THEY MUST HAVE TRAINING. Rey should not be able to defeat the Praetorian Guards (who are essentially cousin or brethren of the Emperor's Royal Red Guards) with little to no training. Astral Projection is a part of Star Wars canon but PHYSICAL projection is not (Luke kisses Leia's forehead and the projected dice can be picked up). Also, when you mislead the audience (playing Darth Plagueis theme song during Snoke in TFA) and tote Rey's parentage as important, you are going to piss off people. At least if Rey had a lineage to a famous force user, it would at least provide context and make the Praetorian Guard fight scene more plausible. They said in interviews Snoke is mysterious but he is not a Sith Phasma will have a bigger role in the next film But in the end they pulled the rug from under us and basically gave us a soft reboot. How is that acceptable? I understand that they chose an underlying metaphorical theme of "letting the past go, not everything will meet expectations, failure will become a factor in the path to success, rebirth etc" but I am still pissed because I understand what they are trying to accomplish, but still choose to wanting to see the other things they dismissed. I also understand that a lot of people who loved the movie most likely do so because everything that was setup or theorized seemed like a recycled cliche of the franchise and thus thought the perspective was fresh and not circular. I want circular. I want lore. I want Snoke to be some mysterious entity more dangerous than the Sith. I want Rey to be some reincarnation of the First Jedi and that the Jedi must end because their "religious" system has misguided their ways. I want Kylo to become an embodiment of a Grey Jedi by flip flopping between Snoke and Rey. Just give me anything related to actual lore for god sakes!

[@Rylus571]

1. The dogmatic Jedi were the ones telling that. 2. Don't underestimate the power of the force. 3. People cared too much about Rey's parents. It reminded me too much of that team BS from twilight.

[@Autonomic]

Jerry Blizzard again that proves his point you are left assuming that these things would be okay and that they are okay to contradict prior circumstances. That's the problem. Some are okay enough to let slide (astral projection I guess and the physical tangible connection of opposite users surroundings) but others just seem unredeemable.

[@Rylus571]

Here's what you do. Put yourself in the story and ask yourself what matters more finding out who rey's parents are or questioning the competency of a certain admiral?

[@Rylus571]

Autonomic rey's parents are completely pointless to the story. The theme is complete and utter hopelessness. The new republic is incompetent and got It's head blown off, the resistance got cut down to a handful of people on an old freighter. Meanwhile the first order still has thousands of ships at its command. As far as I'm concerned they wrote themselves into a corner.

[@flynndwt2298]

Jerry Blizzard yeah they're gonna have to pull some major shit in the last movie.... JJ needs to fucking kick this shitty movies ass

[@Arlekienen]

I'm actually writing a research paper about consistency in writing, although I'm focusing on mystery novels. To ease your sorrow about having your theories called garbage, I can tell you that theories are inescapable in writing. Your audience will always try to think ahead and construct with the pieces of information already available to them (and this applies to fanartists and writers who create stuff way before seeing a movie, too). Theories are just another way of audience and community engagement. To demand that your audience *doesn't* play with the toys you've set up is basically asking them to become braindead so that any illogical, cynical thing can be shown to them without much critique. Big corporations, I guess, don't like the fact that audiences are more than sacks of flesh that throw money at them. It' s also emotionally significant. If you imagine an awful theory, you cope much better with less ridiculous theories possibly becoming canon. To go back to consistency, in mystery writing, it's the most important thing, because a mystery novel must give the reader a chance to solve it on their own, and, as such, nothing must be hidden. If there's no consistency, there's no logic thread. Loose ends must be tied up, there has to be payoff for the things set up, and none of the information must contradict. Also, no deus ex machinas, since using it is basically saying to your audience that all of the deduction they did before that point is worthless, since none of that is relevant anymore. To break these rules, you must be masterful, and know what the rules are. The Last Jedi had a potential to break certain expectations, like Rey's parentage, but did it so clumsily and unbelievably that it was a trainwreck. In other words: keep theorising, MatPat. And everybody else, too. Engage with the content creatively, and maintain the logic of a series you like. Keep playing with the Lego pieces the creators provided to you. Theories are a natural product of audience's creativity, and are absolutely fine. They're integral to how we function (what are predictions or speculations if not theories?), and you should not feel ashamed for asking that your favourite creator's work makes sense and connects together smartly.

[@SinerAthin]

Consistency is so important, t'is a wonder how many people don't understand its signifiance! "buuh it's a fantasy book! screw consistency, who needs dat?!"

[@user-bk3wp7zs2i]

Holy sh*t i just skipped reading after I hit that read more button.

[@Arlekienen]

SinerAthin consistency applies to any work. You can create a fantasy universe as insane as you wish, but it still needs rules to function properly. Things don't need to make sense in *our* world, but they have to, in the end, make sense in the one you're presenting. If, to make your story work, you have to retcon existing rules, the world build up itself needs a restructure. In other words, as an author, it is one's job to make sure the audience gets invested, and audience gets invested when your world makes sense to them.

[@Arlekienen]

Phantom Fzotr my apologies. I study literature (with psychology on the side), and I have ADHD, so, when a topic I like/am knowledgeable about comes up (like in this video), an essay just pours out of my mouth.

[@user-bk3wp7zs2i]

Arlekienen nah its cool that you wrote so well. Hard to come by people who actually have serious comments.

[@AK-qh6lr]

It's not your fault. We as Star Wars fans had expectations of a good Star Wars movie, and Ryan Johnson subverted them.

[@drzane9364]

Matpat: I ruined Star Wars. Me: you break what is already broken.

[@NapoleontheLesser]

You didn't ruin it Matpat, it's just that your theories (and most others' theories, for that matter) are built on substantially better plot lines than what the Disney creative team (that's paid millions of dollars to provide quality content) was able to produce.

[@NapoleontheLesser]

I did enjoy the new force powers though. Except Leahs. ~.~

[@mrcristaldo]

NapoleontheLesser Amen

[@dislike_button33]

NapoleontheLesser Yeah that was odd....more than odd...

[@chilsea7925]

Yes, this reminds me of the whole Johnlock scenario last year

[@absalomdraconis]

Eh, I think the outrage over TLJ is massively overblown, but even just the script as shown in the movie could have been done better itself. It would have been better if Luke had tossed it to the side as in "been there, done that, got the T-shirt" instead of the "f*$! that" toss that we actually got. I'd like to think the Leia scene could have been done better. Lots of scenes.

[@captainstroon1555]

How to avoid spoilers on the internet: No internet until the movie comes out.

[@turtato2155]

Captain Stroon sends letter full of spoilers

[@captainstroon1555]

Turtato sees spoilers on huge billboard in front of the cinema.

[@joseydoesgacha1875]

Captain Stroon xD not how it works for me

[@sophachord]

That's what I do

[@Funko_pop_josh]

Holdo didn't tell anybody on board the transport her plan because she thought there was a mole... she wasn't aware of how they could be tracked through lightspeed, she thought someone was giving the First Order information so she couldn't tell anyone her plan or it would fail. Especially Poe, who she thinks Leia didn't trust seeing as he last official action was to demote him to captain.

[@rockyseverino9230]

yeah, we all know that except it's bullshit light speed tracking is a major plot point in... Star Wars Episode 4 From 1977

[@Funko_pop_josh]

@@rockyseverino9230 really, tell me what part of that movie involves tracking through lightspeed?

[@rockyseverino9230]

@@Funko_pop_josh been awhile since you've watched it eh? the same technology was also used in Attack of the Clones in 2002 it's very common to put a tracker on someones ship no reason to assume there's a mole. totally ridiculous assumption in that universe The death star tracked the millenium falcon to Yavin in 1977 via a tracker, and Obi Wan tracked Jango Fett to Geognosis in 2002 via a tracker. You don't suddenly need some radical new technology in 2017 to do it, and no one in that universe would assume you had said new technology if you tracked them, theyd just assume you had attached a tracker to them. Leia assuming instantly that there was new technology at play (despite her being the one worried in 1977 about the "ease of our escape, they let us get away") is absurd. it's always been a bs excuse for holdo's behaviour and it's never even stated in the movie that she's actually worried about a mole i might add. WE just assume thats why she behaves that way that's an audience assumption

[@Funko_pop_josh]

@@rockyseverino9230 been about a few hours, idk if that's a while, maybe it is for you but it seems pretty recent to me

[@rockyseverino9230]

@@Funko_pop_josh might need to see a doctor then forgetting the entire climax of a movie you saw a few hours ago sounds pretty serious

[@pinomarittimo7614]

Remember it’s just a theory, don’t hate on this channel

[@seanhanson418]

If fan theories are hurting movies perhaps they need writers who are better at writing than the fans.

[@TROY2048]

Sean Hanson bitching bout stuff is always easy so fuck off nerd

[@goldenlotus3598]

People get butt hurt that their theory wasn't correct. It has nothing to with the writer. It's better to remain unexpected or else the movie(or what ever in general) becomes predictable and boring

[@seanhanson418]

Refusing to settle for Hollywood's garbage is not bitching, I will not waste my money on their shit.

[@SplotPublishing]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Ok, look. Put ANY of your fan writing out in print. Go ahead. Now, wait to see if you become a best seller. If you don't, you'll know why your writing is not being chosen to make movies of. Your personal preferences, esp. if they happen to be for your own work, aren't exactly a good way to judge if something is actually objectively good, or likely to be seen as good by the majority. The majority thinks these writers are waaaaay more talented than the fan fic out there. If you think they're better, that's your idiosyncratic opinion. You don't make money on movies based on a tiny fraction of the overall population. The fact these movies continue to rake in millions means the majority (who don't even write reviews) enjoy them. Get it? The majority disagree with you. Just maybe, these writers actually *are* better, but you prefer something other people don't. That's fine. But you can't then pretend the franchise should turn on your tastes because they have to make money. Make your own movies and see if maybe you can become as popular, or at least make a go of it.

[@joelressler5619]

I don't think not following fan theories hurt the movie. I think not following or accomplishing anything within the franchise is what hurt it. I'll admit, I liked it but I'm not much of a Star Wars fan. But I couldn't help thinking there seemed something very wrong about Episode 8 starting and ending with a small rag tag resistance again a Sith ruled Empire. Isn't that the same situation they were in at the beginning of Episode 4? Shouldn't 5, 6, and 7 have advanced the story?

[@camdotcoms]

i bet james is having a heart attack

[@torviannetwork1796]

"*Screaming from the time he broke his hampster's cage.* I was refrenced on film theory!"

[@CoCoCrazyLovesGod]

Same, I’d like to see a video on it!! XD

[@Lindsey.hancock]

Yes, but that's just a theory... AN ANIMATION THEORY!

[@andersonritter1389]

They do sound alike

[@LAM-nf3lm]

camhasproblems I love theodd1sout

[@rottenroads1982]

Sir MatPat, I 100% like your videos, I think your videos are so cool. They are cool because you have real evidence that comes from real places. Another thing, my favorite Star Wars ships are the MC80a home one type cruiser, Nebulon b and c frigates and the Executor class super star destroyer.

[@inkr7964]

I bet Mat and Mickey are even bigger enemies now