Film Theory: IT - Pennywise's Greatest Fear (IT Movie 2017)

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Like many of you I loved the new IT movie. But one thing has been bothering me since I saw IT. How exactly were the Loser's Club able to over come the master or fear - Pennywise? I mean he had plenty of opportunities to kill them off one by one. So I did a little digging, but what I found goes far beyond just their ability to survive.
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[@ethandavide6068]

Pennywise: join me mattpatt MattPatt: nah I'm good Pennywise: I have diet coke MattPatt: *jumps in*

[@kunari_]

12:49 Pennywise: I have a Doctor Who part three theory down here Entire Film Theory fanbase: *dives in and is never seen again*

[@Martin-yh7vi]

Sakura-chan The missing piece.

[@mortarion9813]

Pennywise: We have all sorts of future movies and theories down here. Film Theory Fanbase: **They jump in all at once, sealing the gap. Until the cops come and something is done about the weird clown that is presumed to be a child murderer and pedophile.**

[@CannedCorn183]

Ethan Davide ya, sounds like him

[@norn_aep]

Ethan Davide Hahahahahhha

[@mayorbradley3952]

Pennywise's true greatest fear: being called mean names

[@tal0tis]

My dads friend is like tf they bullied him when we watched the movie

[@First_last988]

(Spoiler) Poor dude...got roasted to death

[@dariusjohnson2187]

stick pixels The ending was so weird, I got so annoyed how they called him a clown and he died, really anti climatic

[@shhhh6174]

“You big ol bitch ass hoe ass big ass eighthead no hairline havin ass did ya makeup in the dark on a bumpy train ride in the face ass dirty stanky ass hot breath ass boo boo the fool in the face ass nyyuuuuguhhhh THEFUCK you thought you was doing?” Pennywise: (is crying) Pennywise : (leaves cause he know he bout ta catch hands)*

[@Oleanierum]

I was so mad that all they had to do WAS VERBALLY ABUSE HIM

[@SkilledPieceOfToast]

I like how they literally just started roasting the living sh*t out of him and it works

[@14758]

Lol

[@AlexReynard]

It suddenly works then because he'd just killed Eddie. In that moment, they stop fearing him. They *hate* him. And with the loss of their fear, he starves.

[@Linator4]

I’d really like to see how long he’d last in the hood or a COD lobby

[@YEETUSDAFEETUS]

@@Linator4 about 3 seconds max

[@tomatopotato5786]

It’s because of the ritual and the last token was eddie so when he killed him the last token was destroyed properly

[@starsiclez]

I just LOVE the fact that after Pennywise takes a bit out of the arm, he awkwardly waves. 0:34

[@ameliasegan2138]

😆

[@MsMarianne07]

Hehehe

[@PaimenProductions]

5:36 Wait... Did Matt Pat just *accidentally* predict IT chapter II:s casting? xD

[@f.b.iagentp.4467]

Holy shit HAHAHHAHAHA

[@Rutgaahh]

His editor did, but yeah pretty insane

[@yubloknows8828]

F.B.I Owo

[@PaimenPlays]

Wowww

[@KashTheGamerYT]

Omg idk

[@sahvannamyers1024]

Imagine if they made a Stephen king crossover movie between "the Shinning" and "It" Coming soon to a theater near you, it's "The Shitting"

[@creaturetapped]

This made me laugh harder than I thought it would make me.

[@vortexgalaxy_magic4602]

steve smith, that's. Hilarious. I don't usually laugh at comments until I saw this one. 👏. 👏. 👏.

[@sahvannamyers1024]

Thanks!

[@GrimReaper-bq8cm]

But stephen king doesn't make movies he writes books.

[@sahvannamyers1024]

true, but I like to think that he helps in making them in a way

[@deminoice9688]

Wait, wait, wait, doesn't this mean that Carrie's telekinesis is her starting to shine?

[@Subangelis]

Confirmed in The Dark Tower series.

[@RubberHoseToons]

So cool!

[@SCP_Wandsman13_13]

I've seen this theory before. Seems to hold up.

[@danielsgarden9283]

It’s incredible about how Stephen kings universe is all connected

[@macias7125]

Holy crap, Stephen King is on to something

[@chrisarbour]

Still waiting on that shining theory about pennywise being the hotel haha.

[@vantheofferl.gutierrez2096]

Me too.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Is that what Pennywise does on his off years? Goes to Colorado for the winter.

[@ShauntSerelu]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the King universe is pretty much "certain places attract powerful positive and negative energies" - I think it says as much pretty explicitly in the book where the character goes back in time to save JFK, in which it has a little reference to the events of the book IT. Edit for clarification: Essentially, yes, pennywise is a manifestation of these negative energies in much the same way as the hotel is!

[@macias7125]

you're in luck- kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3SuZZqgm7KXjdk

[@mango8412]

@@macias7125 it has Q in it there’s no way that’s not a rickroll

[@cgkase6210]

"Oh yeah, the Shining has a sequel" In 2019: Coming to Theatres: Doctor Sleep

[@parkerschrodt3039]

When you watch theories years after the release date

[@dayton6750]

I have seen that movie after reading the book their both great 👍

[@chrisarbour]

If only it went full ham on being a sequel to the book instead of a half and half with the ending being nothing but fan service. Good none the less though.

[@lswan6389]

It’s no not a sequel same world

[@cgkase6210]

@@lswan6389 are you saying Doctor Sleep isn't a sequel? Because the main character is the kid from the Shining. Like thats the main conflict, is his return to the hotel.

[@veronicamorris2310]

Penny wise : iron man didn't die down here Me: *jumps in sewer at max speed*

[@Mjlover7-com.]

Yess

[@kevink8386]

Ft good name matpat

[@kevink8386]

Do a video about avatar

[@De4dPoo1]

U are so funny iwish i could hear you do funny jokes all day. Big titted dumb ass

[@williamcortelyou4524]

Pennywise:And spider Man is still in the marvel universe. Me: follows.

[@piercelindenberg6842]

Your theory about IT potentially being the evil in all Stephen King novels makes sense, except for Cujo. Cujo was rabid. Maybe Pennywise was the bat that bit him? Oh, and the Pet Sematary was cursed by the Wendigo. It is not a shapeshifter.

[@midnightmidnight61]

But a shapeshifter could turn into anything which includes wendigos, it could have shapeshift into a wendigo

[@janeoathdragon5793]

Considering that's not how wendigo's work in thier native lore, more likely to be the shape-shifting evil

[@booboobearie9601]

So people get the shining from trauma, maybe places and animals can get shining from trauma too?

[@GuardianWolfKim]

MatPat truly scared me with how he sounded. Now I know he can do acting in horror! Theorist, announcer, Researcher, Scientist... So any Voice acting or Audiobooks?

[@NPC-No.5913]

MatPat being a adio book reader actually sounds like something like he'd do

[@sexytiger63]

Pennywise: I got memes got down here Georgie: are they dank? Pennywise: oh they’re all dank down here *Georgie climbs down*

[@embertunes5385]

MEEE

[@veryneatguy-838]

Hey dad, are you coming back from the store soon?

[@thalassous]

Haha They’re Dank *sad English brain thinks about dank meaning wet* HahahhahahahahhA... Sewers...

[@Aristocratic13]

+A Hopetale How you get wet from dank? I think of beer and drunkness seeing as most pubs I go to have dank signs

[@mariahwilkes274]

I’m. A Dad

[@otomacovers806]

You'll theorise too! You''ll theorize too! YOU'LL THEORISE TOOOOO!!!!!!! *Me, Slides into sewer drain

[@GachaLifeGirl]

Bread ON Toast64125 If you see a clown in a sewer drain, call 911, they may be stuck and might need help.

[@redacted6655]

Gachalife Girl if you run Into a clown in the sewer you don't call 911 you jump in to see if anyone else got stuck

[@annaluuuvv]

But theorizing is hard

[@DoubleBoost23]

I heard memes and puns,dat ClownPat soul is mine-

[@tristingundermann2220]

That part was actually kinda creepy😂

[@dylanactive]

I can add on to this theory- In the novels for bo It and The Shining, it mentions that Henry was also abused by his father, and Jack was as well. I think that they also had the ability to shine, but due to their weaker minds, It was able to use them as minions.

[@SuperVaIle]

The strongest evidence for this theory to me personally is that the early chapter describing Stan's life after Derry clearly indicates that he has some sort of psychic ability. It's mostly seen through the perspective of his wife, but she observes him do several gut instinct decisions without being able to explain them to anyone really, that turn out to be huge successes. That also helps explain why they are all so successful as adults, they all probably have this shining instinct to guide them if they just believe in themselves.

[@syra1541]

MatPat will go crazy when he sees the HERE'S JOHNNY in Bev's bathroom scene omg I freaked out

[@Lovehandles1194]

I know it is crazy

[@ryanhampson5324]

That proved his theory right, all of the books and movies are connected by It

[@notnova1]

I thought it was just like an Easter egg or something 😂😂

[@thegamingking3907]

Wait where

[@syra1541]

@@thegamingking3907 in IT part 2

[@alexkiff1540]

Anyone realize that MatPat literally called himself “the KZbin Clown”

[@rorangarrowson5]

That was funny I surprised u were the only one that is as that said something about that

[@christopheredwards9904]

he's the kings' jester, and the king be it youtube.

[@jackdeavers1198]

Could this also connect carrie as the only shiner that turns evil? Cause she is abused and has telekinetic powers, even though the shine is telepathic powers. Maybe the evil shine takes a more PHYSICAL approach of mental powers.

[@BuckyRay]

Let’s just call it Shade lol Like Dark side of the force 😂

[@jackdeavers1198]

@@BuckyRay true

[@DudeGunman]

Yes actually, in "The Dark Tower" it confirms that Carrie is Shinning but its thrown out of control due to the amount of mental strain put on her by almost everyone around her

[@RareCinephile]

3 years later: I'm still waiting for that MEGA STEPHEN KING THEORY. Maybe when chapter 3 comes out...

[@sophiagruidl160]

It's funny that at 5:36 he uses Professor X as Bill and now James McAvoy has been cast as adult Bill in Part 2.

[@cheesy_yeety]

Ikr XD

[@andrew7490]

NUNI

[@renee_is_pink]

wow

[@TheNerdestOfOne]

Sophia Gruidl it Is

[@kombuchaking3656]

I was for thinking the same thing

[@user-gr1xl6ez8t]

Pennywise: You'll float too Me: Either you're saying I'm as thin and light as a feather or I'm as fat and big as hot air balloon.

[@tomgothawked6199]

A nice

[@brittanypresley2699]

I mean, I get the joke, but dead bodies float.

[@Medi_Idem]

A what I feel

[@juliacarpscasnotious9834]

I agree

[@PhantomationTV]

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[@chips6058]

5:37 wow you somehow even nailed the actors. Also this ritual of chud sounds like a conquerors haki clash for all the cultured out there

[@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate]

With all this in mind, it seems plausible that Carrie also has the shining, the strongest shine seen so far in the Stephen King connected universe. Let's go over the evidence: Shining = telepathy with a cooler name Carrie has telepathic abilities MatPat pointed out that all characters with the shining (Danny, Halloran, the losers club) suffered abuse as a kid. Carrie absolutely fits this standard. The shining varies in strength from person to person. It seems possible that after a certain point, the power goes past telepathic abilities and extends to telekinesis, if it's strong enough. Stephen King probably didn't forget about Carrie when he came up with the idea of the shining

[@wil638]

Mat pat Clown: you’ll sub too Me: I all ready have mat pat

[@user10957]

Preston Taylor me too

[@HazySkies]

We're all subbed down here..

[@scp--297]

Preston Taylor Same.

[@Ky-bn9rj]

Stop matpat is amazing. To be honest you may have a very different perspective on this but there is no need to say that

[@wolfboy18]

Same.

[@im_just_someone1271]

Penny:want a baloon? Me:leaves Penny:free wifi Me:*jumps in*

[@starlight2757]

FOX NATION GAMING Git mi da fwack in dere.

[@DarkMatter-lz1vh]

FOX NATION GAMING Lol

[@mysticjesus5534]

FOX NATION GAMING Not be those jackass but just saying its *balloon to make the comment better😁

[@gamingsoulyt7325]

Mystic Zebra you forgot about the other o

[@meowwri6013]

Mystic Zebra actually its balloon* just correcting😊

[@leviblack8062]

The dark tower books (not the movie) actually take a lot of this deeper and are very much worth the read.

[@VioletMontesdeoca-pt6me]

I was waiting for someone to point this out, in the story the shining is very much used and the idea of going to different worlds using the shine just supports this theory even more.

[@eliasthd]

I find it amazing that Mat used the picture of Charles Xavier (played by James McAvoy) to represent Bill in the future when James McAvoy actually plays Bill in It chapter II.

[@FunBoxGamingPOG]

Sherlock Holmes: I am the greatest detective ever. MatPat: I put together the FNAF lore. Sherlock Holmes: You are definitely smarter than me.

[@daamric]

You mean consulting detective

[@urmomsfavenby8920]

And hello to you Vader or should I say.... ANAKIN SKYWALKER

[@orion8063]

@@urmomsfavenby8920 It's really obvious

[@abiutheartist]

Lol true

[@zak9158]

Scotty C nooooope matpat

[@nicoletzl]

I'm still waiting for the theory that ties every story of Stephen King together. I'LL WAIT FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES

[@sjbrooksy45]

It's called the dark tower

[@mdaklu9015]

Cardi B From Target xxx

[@ashakumariasha9252]

cak01vej hcshin

[@6rebelangel]

They ARE tied together. In the Dark Tower series, the antagonist's goal is to destroy The Tower that connects the multiple universes together and rule over the resulting chaos.

[@streghewitch77]

I don't think it's the Dark Tower or let me rephrase I don't think it's just the Dark Tower I think the Derry Maine connection has to be made before all of the stories AR brought together

[@OTBlockEntertainment]

"HERES MATPAT" love it!

[@lilahholly2627]

This is one my favorite theories out there! I actually recall reading a theory along these lines a long time ago, but it just really connects things and makes a good deal of sense

[@lil.carter1320]

"You'll theorize too!" I know this is late but could we put that on a hoodie??

[@Lovehandles1194]

Yesssssssssss

[@monsterinkedbipperpines7584]

Please can we i would by it

[@francesoconnor3051]

oh my god that would be amazing

[@mandiking723]

Yes i need one

[@neonninja4018]

In deed

[@joshuagraham5750]

Billy I love you I love you too Georgie......But you’re not Georgie *bang* One of the greatest scenes in the movie

[@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106]

Genji _343 one of the greatest scenes in cinema

[@joshuagraham5750]

James McGuinness I’m glad you agree

[@brienneofturd3765]

Genji _343 Don’t agree pennywise should have showd up while Georgie lays dead on the ground

[@musicalbrit3465]

The way they left it for just long enough to have an “oh shit that was Georgie” moment is genius

[@melissae2302]

Genji _343 Yes.

[@daniel8688]

Me: has child hood trauma and gets DID. Steven King characters: has childhood trauma and gets cool telepathic powers. Me: son of a b-

[@flasheditz6450]

5:38 I find it funny how half the stuff in this theory doesn’t happen yet Matt somehow predicts James McAvoy as Bill in a joke about Bill being professor Xavier

[@TheLibermania]

7:00 "But nobody came?" I feel pretty detetmined to know why this has a different font.

[@caylaweinberg2327]

TheLibermania undertale

[@lillyvalley7362]

i caught that too, seeing that font filled me with determination.

[@juanlopez-mendias7736]

@@caylaweinberg2327 no shit

[@darthshimp07]

You know when Mike gets his power he should've played hopes and dreams

[@AlbertFingernoodle959]

@@thesadinsomniac why did you say rip, its only around 999 years until delta rune chapter 2

[@taliak3512]

5:37 MATPAT CALLED THAT JAMES MCAVOY WILL PLAY BILL! Theory Confirmed!

[@Lovehandles1194]

I know it's crazy

[@notnova1]

Actually his editor did

[@hofmeyerthema9877]

Good

[@watermelonoverpoweredpizza6346]

albert einstein: im the smartest man alive matpat: i understand fnaf albert einstein: you're clearly superior

[@mercuryvincent6796]

Its Feb 2024 and ever since MatPat announced his retirement, I've been binge watching all old episodes especially the ones that still use the into theme song. We will miss you MatPat!

[@ttvddlyxght]

5:37 Anyone realise matpat predicted it 2's actor for Bill?

[@lukethewatermelon]

Actually, at the time of this video the actors were already kinda confirmed

[@LilacFPS]

Ikr

[@caseykearns1897]

He also shines

[@rigobertogallardo9850]

He predicted the exact same actor who would play Bill in It Chapter 2

[@acewilson9278]

I KNOW WTF

[@rudamentary]

Isn't it ironic how these kids supposedly have telepathic powers... And in the cast for IT: Chapter Two James McAvoy... Literally Professor X... is playing Bill...

[@ghoulishgam3r508]

No. Nothing about that is ironic by any definition.

[@jalix9574]

That’s excellent. And probably not even deliberate.

[@Brutalyte616]

@@ghoulishgam3r508 It's ironic if McAvoy was hired for his acting talent and not the fact he played a crippled psychic and will be portraying another psychic character.

[@ghoulishgam3r508]

@@Brutalyte616 you need to look up the definition of irony, bud. Coincidence doesn't equal irony.

[@Brutalyte616]

@@ghoulishgam3r508 Have you ever heard of dramatic irony? It's a literary technique demonstrated by expressing a scenario in such a way that the audience is made aware of it but the characters are left none the wiser, often to comedic effect as a result of some form of tonal dissonance creating a contradiction of expectation; Red Riding Hood going to see her grandmother after the audience has been told that the wolf has already eaten her and is lying in ambush for the young girl would be an example of dramatic irony, as would be the concept of a character jinxing themselves by speaking a negative outcome aloud, only for it to become reality shortly thereafter. The application of this literary concept to real life has lead to coincidence being associated with irony for _hundreds of years_ as the concept of hindsight or a more knowledgeable party takes the role usually played by the limited omniscient audience of a story, thus bypassing the usual technical restriction on what constitutes irony. Case in point, one definition of irony is "a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result." In this case, if someone did not associate McAvoy with his role as Professor X, then the resulting revelation that he is playing another psychic character in It would constitute as irony. So what were you saying about looking up how the definitions of irony and coincidence do not intersect like a graph?

[@elver6641]

Did anyone else noticed that when Ben is reading the book the librarian is looking at him in a creepy way 4:09

[@travish6427]

That Intro was on point.

[@ramqueen09]

I wonder if Matt Patt knew James McAvoy would be in the movie. Maybe Matt's the better psychic.

[@ob1knob71]

Noticed

[@ginnyofnewstone6142]

(Steven King closes his laptop)…."That Dude figured out my big twist!!!"

[@eleanorfudge7288]

I almost made a sarcastic, sorta rude joke here about misspelling his name, but that seemed unnecessary - it could very well have been an autocorrect mishap or just an honest misremembering, and no one really deserves being roasted over that. So just to let you know, his name is Stephen King.

[@natalipatrocinio9234]

Stephen*

[@_meme_failed8478]

Stephen King*

[@swaggykun3249]

Stephen**

[@itsmechrisp6958]

No, no he didn't.

[@jeninemundey3399]

i love how when the crab from mawana was singing shinny the subtitles said "OH YEAH THATS MY JAM(lmao, agreed) i love yt subtitles

[@zaiden_fishguy]

I’ll theorise too!

[@sweetenedaffirmations6013]

When I watched IT. Me : Who the hell let a flipping 5 year old boy go *OUT IN THE RAIN ALONE*

[@MikkiJoeRingtail]

Adult neglect is a running theme in Derry. Literally no one cares about those kids.

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

And it was the 1950's, it was a different time as well.

[@raindash8744]

My cousin and I laughed every time someone got hurt ...

[@sarahblake5470]

girl it was the 80s. people back then hitchhiked and seriously thought it was a good idea to get into a strangers car

[@sarahblake5470]

yeah, and then they all acted surprised when people actually got killed

[@TallTank]

I love how he used James McAvoy for the telepathy when he’s playing Bill in part two. Maybe the studio took Mat’s Idea

[@eskimogioia9848]

The kids in It actually picked their adult counterparts, and the casting of the adult actors was released around the time It was in theaters.

[@robertschiek8120]

Eskimo Gioia so you’re telling me the one kid wanted the old spice guy as their adult counterpart? Can’t blame him.

[@AletsMark]

Me being terrified of horror. Also me bingeing all of his horror theory’s

[@devinskoglund6320]

same

[@sparklesforlife]

Are you horrified?

[@AletsMark]

@@sparklesforlife I actually fell asleep to one, so now I am, but of myself!😥

[@MegaBloxSangheiliElite]

5:37 I love how that's the actor who played Bill in IT chapter two

[@seeto7578]

Pennywise: The radio doesn't play despacito down here. Me: jumps in.

[@lyra5349]

DynamixBros Gaming but it plays Justin Bieber

[@SugarSyrupQueen]

PolishDude I'd rather listen to that washed-up wanker than Despasito.

[@Scottzero1998]

Worth it.

[@alexceous]

DynamixBros Gaming despacito more like despaSHITo

[@lilshrimp3104]

I would jump in too

[@maryudomah4387]

“I’m MatPat, the KZbin Clown!” He said it, not me.

[@cheyennearnett8534]

Coolest.clown.ever.

[@kingmartinez6016]

Fuck off

[@Ballin_and_I_cant_get_up]

Yep

[@Ballin_and_I_cant_get_up]

Creepy

[@lunnhim4316]

Dude.. Great work! I mean, this is so detailed and clear! Respect

[@AlbertFingernoodle959]

According to some dream I had, believing isn’t what prevents you from being eaten by penny wise, it’s playing video games

[@beaglelps4153]

"We've got a whole circus down here. With memes, and puns, and theories galore!" *crawls down*

[@licasabinaandreea2361]

FlowerPowerLPS *backs her stuff* WAIT FOR MEEE!!

[@galaxythecreator6839]

FlowerPowerLPS WAIT FOR MEEEEEEEE *crawls in*

[@cozy_eve591]

FlowerPowerLPS same lol

[@jordaniscool-7839]

FlowerPowerLPS that's me

[@dankstorm7603]

FlowerPowerLPS same

[@konnahildich5489]

How scary is it that MatPat uses the example of Bill being Professor X, played by James Macavoy, and now in the new IT movie, James Macavoy plays the older version of Bill But hey, that's just a theory...

[@mxb9934]

I was thinking that... coincidence? I think not

[@acemagalor2519]

🤯🤯🤯

[@edeeespy3386]

A FILM THEORY AND CUT!

[@paxtondm4515]

I was just thinking that

[@user-ho1qx7yc2t]

*Every Day Matpat strays closer to God*

[@imthedamianator]

Batman: Im the greatest detective Sherlock Holmes: No i am MatPat: Hold my diet coke

[@bushranger3337]

12:42 27 Year's

[@kki3733]

Who actually wanted to go in the sewer and theorize?

[@greenmoon7349]

Makayla's Roblox Adventures me, for the memes and theory's...

[@TRASHBOT-kp6ce]

Me

[@kki3733]

be nice 496 the fuck...

[@edie122]

Makayla's Roblox Adventures meeeeeee!!! I was like take me man! Take me.

[@dtsuga.6034]

Makayla's Roblox Adventures I LITERALLY SEE YOU EVERYWHERE WTF

[@emmy3590]

So, Richie is scared of Pennywise and Pennywise, a murderous being, is scared of a turtle. Wow.

[@JorgePerez-zh8io]

Emmy in the Stephen king universe, the turtle is a celestial being that is stronger than it (for some reason)

[@faariskhan5126]

@@JorgePerez-zh8io basically the turtle is the opposite of pennywise in a way that they were shown as the good and evil gods

[@captainbirch9835]

Turtles are f*cking terrifying

[@telepathicdiancie0075]

The Turtle barfed out the universe, (I'm pretty sure) so it makes sense that it can defeat a being such as Pennywise. The Turtle is extremely large as well, but that doesn't really matter since It can shapeshift. Also, is anyone mad that MatPat didn't talk about The Dark Tower once?

[@Wunderwolfer]

Another great theory. However, I think the evil in the overlook isn't really Pennywise since evil stuff happens in the Overlook when IT is presumable asleep. I think that in many Stephen King books lots of evil things happen in this area of Maine (Misery, IT, Shining, Tommyknockers etc...) because it kind of attracts or encourages evil, or perhaps it's an area of weakness between us and the multiverses where creatures like IT and the turtle can cross into our world. Most of the monsters across his books, including the hotel, feed off the Shine, and in the book IT doesn't always perform the atrocities in Derry he just encourages humans to do it for him while he watches and gets ready to feed . So perhaps, the evil in Maine isn't directly Pennywise but maybe IT birthed or encouraged the evil in someway or maybe there are more IT like creatures in our world, I mean look at the Trueknot!

[@gracereads2917]

Just noticed at 5:40 Matt predicted James McAvoy playing grownup Bill in It Chapter 2

[@aridedeoglu4943]

What do you call a running clown Fit

[@knive4ngel]

Thatrandomguy lol lol lol 😂😂

[@blackdragonx5500]

I don't know tell me that random guy!

[@HTX09]

Thatrandomguy XD

[@sanjenyasha9031]

What do you call a partying clown? Lit

[@zevenom0uslemon460]

what we have upon us is the dad joke of the year

[@bipinlamichhane2276]

"We have a radio that doesn't play Gucci gang" Me YEET

[@icyhotbnhaepic2465]

"we have a radio that doesnt play bts" Me:hELL NO

[@mrsmajler1260]

@@icyhotbnhaepic2465 Go to hell Bts is shit in my school every fucking girl is obsessed with it And holy fuck im done listening to that shit

[@mrsmajler1260]

@General Goldy It was rare in schools but in my country there was a wave of this shit and im fucking done

[@mrsmajler1260]

So I was in one of those unlucky schools

[@Brxken_bxnes.ex3]

Epic Yoongles mood

[@sandllc1361]

You had such a good theory til the end, there is a bunch of details as to why pennywise isn’t every evil

[@dosito86]

6:53 I freaking can't with you! I nearly fell put of my chair with the Geno sound effects.

[@queenkudo]

Roses are Red Violets are Blue If you meet Pennywise, You'll all float too.

[@DylanofScreenTime]

Mocha Tapioca if everyone is saying you’ll float too, than who is floating first? I say this because I haven’t watched the movies nor read any of the books...is that a bad thing? Also to be funny, that’s another reason.

[@_xxfish_grapexx_tv7260]

Mocha Tapioca I'm probably faster the pennywise

[@popcornegg4405]

Mocha Tapioca the plot is they survive

[@andyjones7850]

Mocha Tapioca. Ok now that was good

[@jordanjohnson9446]

I have a gun

[@boyyoboyyo]

"Oh, we all theorize down here. Yes, we do! And when you're down here. You'll theorize too!" I'm sorry, my brain is too dumb to even think of something intelligent.

[@mackenziekeith4255]

Moe Naomi don't worry your not the only one.

[@steemedpasta835]

Same!!!

[@harrybabb1769]

Moe Naomi its ok

[@robotsinc9573]

It’s ok 👍

[@maru8407]

Seeing this video, a book theory from this channel will be great

[@ladynerys6880]

3:51 you also see bev and Richie in 11/22/63 another one of king's works

[@HiHi-is2kd]

Say hello to Pattywise, the Theory clown.

[@shrek3714]

AUDIENCE, MEET PATTYWISE, PATTYWISE, MEET AUDIENCE

[@thefreakshow2925]

Now we aren't strangers anymore now are we audience

[@Jellied_Slime_Games]

Sup?

[@Joker3384]

So Pennywise’s greatest fear is The Shining power? Fight the supernatural with a supernatural power. Makes sense to me.

[@brenn8151]

let sam and dean deal with It

[@OriginSpeed]

Bren Huckabaa One of my kind has appeared.

[@MelodicQuest]

(Pulls up in an Impala) Did somebody say Supernatural?

[@QWERTY11212]

Bren Huckabaa lol yes

[@brenn8151]

Hello i miss Cas ;n; that's all i have to say

[@valeriexwinchester4567]

When he said, “You’ll theorize too!” I understood, “You’ll ‘fear us’ too!”.

[@robert7398]

I believe it's actually 27 years

[@jordanjohnson9446]

It's actually 27 and 1 day

[@rizryn5690]

MATT, you didn't even mention the dark tower!!! ALL THE KIDS THAT WE'RE IMPRISONED HAD THE "SHINE"!!!

[@salt3087]

the dark tower movie was pretty bad for a theory like this because it didn't really follow the books, But in the books penny-wise is obviously a demon. A malevolent psychic force that uses the fear of others to sustain itself. Witch is why the ritual of chude need someone with a powerful shine to work it.

[@7Seraphem7]

It wasn't trying to follow the books, it wasn't an adaption of them, but rather the continuation. This was supposed to be showing Roalnd's last cycle through the Wheel of Ka But yeah.... how could you bring up the whole universe and how connected it was, and not bring up the Dark Tower?

[@foxeyestudio8965]

HybridAxle Gaming their is also a reference to Pennywise too

[@KingNik]

The movie was a sequel to the books.

[@bitterlilraccoon]

LIkely because DT is a big can of worms to open for one theory video. But I have serious doubts the movie was a "sequel" to the books as passionate readers would understand it. The only notable alteration in Roland's past was that his father was killed by the Man in Black rather than John Farson's army. But for some reason, this flashback radically changes his motivation from one of obsession over the Tower to one of revenge. Now one might argue that such an alteration might affect Roland to such a degree that he forgoes his quest to reach the tower, but to which I would counter "Why was he never fixated on revenge against John Farson?" I think the writers were simply being lazy and insinuated an excuse for such.

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

Not a bad theory and there's certainly merit to the connections that you made, but you kinda ignore the part where It makes it clear that the more terrified the victim, the better the meal the victim provides. It feeds primarily off of fear, the physical body is just desert. The entire story is about facing one's fears and overcoming them, that's why It is powerless when the group shows no fear when confronting It.

[@mordirit8727]

IT was just a dumb predator who didn't know how to properly feed. Could have been having it's kicks out of any emotion if it were as smart as Dandelo.

[@YDGAnThuhM]

That's a good point, but Ben, and Eddie both encounter IT on their own, in the books too, and they get away and they're definitely afraid. I like the Shine idea.

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

It's downfall is that it likes playing with his food too much. It could have easily offed the kids one by one on each time one of them encounters It, but that wouldn't provide him with much of a meal. So he teases and terrifies them, getting little tastes of their fear before he goes in for the kill. It's a bit of a cat'n'mouse game. Like I said, the Shine theory certainly does have it's merits so I wasn't trying to shoot it out of the sky...but again: It actually does specify that it prefers its meals as terrified as possible. If the kids are all a bunch of Shiners, I'd imagine an extradimensional being such as It would be clued into this...or at the very least know that there's "something" preventing him from killing them. Considering his a predator, he'd move on to other prey if there was some cosmological force that prevented him killing the kids. Quite simply: It dragged the game out for too long, allowing the fear to become anger which fueled the courage of the kids. They were no longer afraid of It, but rather pissed off and out for vengeance. This change happens when they realize that Its primary goal was to scare them, because their fear was what gave It strength. Get rid of that fear and you get rid of Its power.

[@YDGAnThuhM]

Fair point, well said.

[@janeoathdragon5793]

Not being afraid wouldn't give the kids the ability to psychically communicate or send power to Mike. After all it isn't untill the very end of the movie where they learn not being afraid helps, all the other time were *seemingly* luck

[@A_Pers0n341]

⚠️SPOILER WARNING⚠️ 12:34 To add a bit more evidence for IT being the evil in the shining, in the Shining book on page 606 when Wendy is convinced that the hotel has “taken full control” of Jack, she says “it panted at her through its grin.” And it happens again on page 619, when Danny is talking to Tony about his dad, “‘But you can’t stay long. Because it’s coming’ ‘It…’” and again on the same page “…but it wasn’t Daddy. He knew that now” Stephen King is making it clear that there is a difference between Jack and the evil that’s “controlling” him. The final strongest quote on the same page, when Danny is referring to the evil in the hotel, “Force, presence, shape, they were all only words and none of them mattered. It wore many masks, but it was all one. Now, somewhere, it was coming for him. It was hiding behind Daddy’s face, it was imitating Daddy’s voice, it was wearing Daddy’s clothes. But it was not his daddy.” In the IT movie, it is shown that pennywise can shape-shift into love ones but the characters in the movie realize that it’s not their loved ones just IT appearing like them. Now these quotes are missing IT written in all caps, I just thought I was something interesting to mention

[@xcross4286]

When the opening is scaryier then the movie

[@someguyplayin6704]

Pennywise being involved with Carrie actually doesn’t make sense since, according to this theory, Carrie was most certainly abused, which means she has the shine

[@lessaokkerse9047]

If you read the dark tower series by stephen king it basically confirms this theory and the point about carrie having the shine. Hers just got out of control due to her circumstances.

[@octaviusroosevelt7355]

@@lessaokkerse9047 Whenever I think of The Dark Tower, the only thing that comes to my mind is Barad-dûr.

[@penthactussoul2634]

@@octaviusroosevelt7355 I respect and like you for that

[@munozperez2202]

Wait wouldn't it mean that henry bowers would have the shinning because he was abused by his father

[@octaviusroosevelt7355]

@@munozperez2202 Or he could be another form of IT himself given that he seems to be a bigger threat when the kids are trying to fight against it, and that he draws fear from them.

[@hannahmorse5701]

“Dick Shines.”-Mat pat 2017

[@4ppletv376]

So immature...

[@jeebes1]

Phanic! At the disco omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@thetinypotato10]

XD

[@richietozier2813]

Penny is actually just a straight up grumpy toddler he’s constantly saying “play with me” “no one wants to play with me” he bites peeps lik most little kids do and he just cries wen they make fun of him

[@ddboss4708]

2:07 three words Giant cosmic turtle

[@sophiarenee588]

You know, it has been definitely confirmed that like, 99% of Stephen King's books have been tied to the Dark Tower. In fact, IT is actually one of the demons that watches over the Tower. Pennywise the Dancing Clown isn't even his true form, just another shapeshift.

[@strangetourist]

Sophia Renee Thanks for writing this comment so I didn't have to. :)

[@deadtempleknight.6332]

We know that the clown is not IT's true form he only uses at form to more easily lure kids into traps

[@pattyviggers3581]

In other words the real Baddie is the one and only Randall Flagg

[@Firespark81]

The dark tower also calls telepathic ability shining and he totally skipped over that.

[@asgth6147]

*insert final form joke here*

[@henry2059]

When I'm almost at the end of reading a serious novel that has really scared me: "Hello there son I'm the turtle"

[@portal_yt7578]

5:37 Madpat is from the future because before IT was released he put a picture of the actor who plays BILL COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT!

[@sleepydope7864]

Would love to see more Pennywise/ the shining theories!!

[@slothful2039]

Take notes, if a theory gets requested enough he'll do it. So matpat, where's that cory in the house theory?!

[@japeson6298]

Q'squad Is it before or after the boku no pico theory?

[@thalassous]

The Film Theorists Hello Faker :>

[@idanzadok5347]

Screw that, what about doctor ho part 3?

[@retropolis_fae]

Idan Zadok I'd prefer Doctor Who, but Doctor Ho is cool too.

[@kaitlynistired6814]

Q'squad *Laughing* He hasn't done Doctor Who P3 yet. That's not entirely true, then.

[@logic7792]

IT CHAPTER 2 SPOILERS AHEAD! There is more proof in It chapter 2 to support this theory. In the scene where Beverley is stuck in a bathroom stall with people attempting to break down the door, Henry bowers says “here’s Johnny”. This is the connection you’ve been looking for. Your welcome.

[@ianspradlin6387]

i was thinking the same thing when i heard it in theaters i was like matpat better make a vid where he says it confirms it

[@lank5994]

also richie is a closeted gay and is abused for it by henry

[@pinedragon5398]

That sounds more like an Easter egg than a legitimate connection, but it still sounds promising

[@gojogaming2379]

LOGIC I was going to say this

[@redhood178]

I think that's more of a reference than proof that they connect to The Shining

[@macey2r.03k]

PatMat Clown: we have memes , puns and theory's galore *jumps right in*

[@joshuabest4266]

Steven King's stories are some of the best horror stories out their, the only thing that kinda messes up is the ending.

[@aaltjesing4870]

You’ll Theorize Too ! You’ll Theorize Too ! You’ll Theorize Too ! YOU’LL THEORIZE TOO

[@luciferheller8725]

You'll fear our eyes too! I know what he's actually saying, but I'd be lying if I said that I don't heard this as well.

[@GachaLifeGirl]

No. *Okay fine I will*

[@theemmaus2432]

I will

[@Sullizhere]

I swear if the beginning of this video was a movie, I'd definitely watch it

[@gamehedpro9808]

Giggles 76 I can relate

[@boop1347]

Totally

[@jacklyntree7752]

Giggles 76 me too

[@tsm_dat3020]

Giggles 76 same

[@PrinceArthur711]

same here XD

[@zaiden_fishguy]

the reason why the kids survived IT is because they have plot armour, the strongest type of armour.

[@noahrodricks5923]

Not gonna lie this is one the really good theories matpat has come up with

[@greenmoon7349]

I will would listen to clown Pat... I would love a circus of memers and pun makers.... And theorizers, I would theorize too...

[@Kable10]

Amen brother

[@mdalencourt]

I'll theorize too I'll theorize TOO I'LL THEORIZE TOO

[@marwan4358]

lol

[@allysonelliott4944]

Amen brother

[@overlordofmc7494]

gamer guy no

[@MisterMuslim000]

Pennywise: you will float too Godzilla: good luck with that

[@TakeJanner]

Tf does Godzilla have to do w any of this

[@fanfan9554]

Take Janner Imagination my friend, Imagination.

[@TakeJanner]

Nah y’all are just gay af

[@fanfan9554]

What does sexuality have to do with an imaginary fight between Godzilla and Pennywise?

[@user-ew2sd7vl5m]

10csysisol maybe Godzilla would penetrate Pennywise with his giant ancient lizard cock

[@veryveryindecisive]

6:34 it’s Martha Kent :0