Film Theory: Jigsaw was RIGHT! (Saw Movies)

[@FilmFightFanatic]

Main Lesson: a moderate degree of suffering can lead to more positive personal development. While significantly traumatic experiences can as well but are not worth the long-term negative mental consequences.

[@katmorningstar374]

So the best way to live is to have mildly sucky points in life, like almost dying to a shark attack every once in a while

[@grape9926]

Moderate degree of suffering like cutting your arm off and digging through your eye for a key

[@terragolemenjoyer8359]

Now to find myself a moderate degree of suffering i guess

[@alexanderhull652]

You smart

[@xFirebird925x]

The key to everything is balance.

[@DuelaDent52]

There was a scene that never got filmed in Saw III where Jigsaw breaks down crying because he realises that he’s going to be remembered as just a murderer, that they will twist his legacy and turn his work into one of hurt instead of healing, that he may have ultimately been wrong. I wish they did keep that scene in, that would have been a lot better than the “Jigsaw is right” crap from the later films and Jigsaw having lowkey brainwashing powers with everyone who survives his traps suddenly devoting their lives to him.

[@vibevizier6512]

God, that would've been SUCH a good scene, and probably would've redeemed the Saw series in mh eyes tbh

[@kailucofficial9931]

That would have seriously fleshed out Jigsaw as a character and give evidence of some form of moral compass within him. We needed this in a movie lol

[@napalm55tr]

dude its so sad like he want to help people and realises that he killed so much...

[@motteiii2884]

because i think the realization of his appreciation of life didn’t hit him until he suffered through trying to commit suicide. adding on to the belief that a traumatic experience (example his suicide attempt) would change your outlook on life.

[@dustinjames1268]

Stockholm syndrome is a real thing

[@EliteHitmarkers]

The part where she says “the best thing that happened to me, when cutting off my arm lets me use the handicap parking” Got Me Cracked Up

[@8-bitmichael781]

If anybody gets to see my search history then that's their own problem not mine

[@hornet1834]

@@8-bitmichael781 amen

[@JasonSunleaf]

It was her fault at the first place. Making people do in debts, just for the greed of money. Heck she still continued knowing Jigsaw was out there.

[@masterofnothing1267]

lol

[@randomrehan9111]

@@8-bitmichael781 exactly

[@cynthia-x7x]

An example of this can be abuse from parents or relatives. You can grow up and think, “Oh, when I get older, I’m going to treat my own kids better” but you can also develop side effects such as anxiety, depression, and more things that can cause you to be unstable. There are goods and bads in every action taken.

[@GurkenbauerTim]

1:54 - Your 4:15 - TV 8:06 - Is 8:52 - Studying 12:15 - You

[@0rkem906]

You’re a genius

[@Dr._Bo]

@River Heinze is yhe finale s is someone?

[@Dr._Bo]

@River Heinze what was the final s?

[@Dr._Bo]

@River Heinze wait but its on a guy forhead. Or more like "your" forhead (get it)😉

[@choyiesuemoran]

oh ok your tv is stdying you thats wierd

[@Aphostle]

5 words aye? "I use incognito mode Sooooooooo..."

[@rambo8863]

not engoth

[@juniper9836]

@@rambo8863 1. I 2. use 3. incognito 4. mode 5. sooooooooooo it is too enough

[@thecoolestmanalive8170]

Google got in trouble for looking at Incino mode history

[@spottiestbeef7791]

I use nordvpn get rek

[@DJ-ln8iy]

i actually found them sooooooo

[@hholtman276]

Matpat should make a theory on how much money Phineas and Ferb spent that one summer.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Would be interesting

[@heated5y]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real I agree

[@drivingaturtle7997]

Nice bro

[@MelonManCrybaby]

I have never heard a greater idea

[@greggaming3194]

True

[@AJsFigures]

Kinda missing out the part where Amanda became a self harmer and a murderer after being tested, Hoffman became a narcissistic, psychopath and a load of the survivors at the therapy sessions were evidently miserable hahaha

[@samuelsoliday4381]

11:30

[@jameslough6329]

Amanda also became a psychopath as well. She used inescapable death traps on innocent people (the worst of which was the Angel trap on Allison Kerry) for no good reason. All of Jigsaw’s apprentices (except Gordon) are WAY worse than he is.

[@rosealicia1782]

I think with the release of Saw X we get more insight into how Amanda became that way. During *that* movie- which takes place between Saw 1 and 2, she clearly believes in the cause. But during the events of the game she struggles to do what is necessary at first, but ultimately has this mentality after the movie due to what transpired when she truly saw how utterly evil and irredeemable the subjects (two specific people here) really were.

[@starburrow]

I think he purposefully didn’t mention that so that the misleading narrative of the video could work up until 11:30 where he finally mentions that torture does not, in fact, help your life

[@DirtyDan_534]

"Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." *laughs in loneliness*

[@SpaceLandslip]

Yep

[@unknowndoowe]

@@sekoseko2165 bot

[@_grievous_the_epok_gamur_7140]

@@sekoseko2165 shut

[@Chelsea-dq9og]

*my church leader is in my contacts* 😶😮

[@sequoiaspaulding5562]

People who use private tabs: "Hehehe you got nothing."

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

It just blows my mind how consistent Matpat is in creating content for years now.

[@deepsix2137]

Ok

[@gabrielleon9059]

Yes, also, you again

[@i24kpandamonium26]

This man has 70 alternative accounts

[@superduper7315]

ik right hes a great content creator

[@boneybaron2508]

I am incredibly thankful for it

[@danci495]

The first symbol appears at 1:52 on the word Your The 2nd symbol appears at 4:17 on the TV so I'm assuming that means the word Tv The 3rd symbol appeard at 8:07 on the word Is The 4th symbol appears at 8:52 on the word Studying And finally, the 5th and last symbol appears at 12:14 on the person which I'm guessing represents You because of the quote "(You) decide to take that class that you always wanted to" and because the symbol appears on the person taking the class which is reffering to the "You" in the quote. The final sentance states: Your Tv is Studying You.

[@miikkomiikko]

Wow ok I just came in the comments to be smug about spotting that one in 8:07 but I guess there were more😅😂

[@MisterMuffinut]

I didn't find anything

[@redeyeranger6374]

I only saw the one on the dudes forehead

[@larisamk]

@@MisterMuffinut Same cuz i din't care about it...

[@lost_soul1328]

Ngl I thought I was the only one who was going to comment the answer.

[@av3stube480]

Honestly, the fact that the survivors of his traps turned out better from the experience could just be treated as an unrealistic aspect of the franchise, and imo should. People might experience a measure of personal growth as a result of the traps, but I would argue that realistically, the harm and trauma they would experience far outweighs any personal growth they achieve.

[@theducknamednewepicla9507]

Exactly

[@lucasnicholson9443]

5 words: “All Marked With This Symbol” Nailed it.

[@ChanakyanStudent7971]

Saw your TV is 5 words...

[@DanaToony]

I thought the words were "But that's just a Theory"

[@64dragonstreet50]

@EXTRA_ELZZZ instead of asking for subs i strongly recommend making content based on the current hype on KZbin. KZbinrs like kreekcraft have had their subs doubled in months based on what games they covered.animations do well aswell as gameplay like among us or certain games on roblox aswell as first person shooters like apex and rainbow six seige. From what I know influence and quality is everything on yt . That's all I have In terms of advice ,hope this helps :)

[@thereaper6650]

ngl thats acually super big brain

[@kenniron6313]

I think it’s supposed to be “Your TV is studying you”

[@Cobreezyy06]

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” Me deleting my entire contact list: it was time for a change anyways

[@personest_person]

My search history is “Pictures of Toothless with human feet”

[@charlesficheriii1478]

Plot twist: your contacts list was for everyone to send you $1000.00 for solving the puzzle... Thanks for playing lol!

[@tomikenimusic]

My mom: hi sweetie Me *after deleting all my contacts*: who dis?

[@laurend7567]

people would get bored of my search history after seeing the 15th google for a different type of mushroom

[@The_real_Gordon_Freeman]

That still leavs

[@ChudMuffin99]

Guy who got his stomach torn open: "Glad I helped Amanda get over her drug addiction."

[@an_earth_angel]

I mean, he failed his game, that’s why he was put into her game. Had nothing to do with her

[@32sk8mx7]

Lmfao

[@alexthegremlin2521]

He was already dead

[@reyniedaze2413]

@@Roach1 well that's terrifying!

[@jadelgato250]

Sometimes you have to really do something extreme to help a friend

[@Junker123]

The secret message is “your tv is studying you” or “your tv is studding people”… I think

[@xojaxproductions7090]

Thank you!

[@KylobopiapsIrirri]

You TV IS studying you? YOUR TV IS STUDYING PEOPLE??? WOW! This GOT Deep 😅

[@tegandumpleton3360]

Jigsaw makes me think of any abuser that say they act out of love. That you'll be tougher for it. And if you do survive and are "tougher" then you were, they take credit for it. Its like you breaking someone's arm and taking credit for it healing, instead of the doctors and loved ones that help them through it. Critical Role actually addressed this during a game: "Pain doesn't make people; it's love that makes people. The pain is inconsequential; it's love that saves them."

[@bryce4650]

Ngl adapting to jigsaws mindset would lead us back to the spartan era where babies are tested, but this time not just the guys ;/

[@sonzu-officialmusicchannel640]

@@bryce4650 I meaaaaan. Idk. Could be fun for a decade or so.

[@bashirsokni8097]

Deep

[@D.Wolf6030]

@@sonzu-officialmusicchannel640 Chance of getting thrown off a cliff at birth, almost 0 life outside of fighting, child rape, Extremeley high abuse, high death rate.. Yeah you can count me out.

[@sonzu-officialmusicchannel640]

@@D.Wolf6030 c'mon live a little lol.

[@mackenziechan3723]

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts...” Welp I guess grandma’s about to learn what fanfics are

[@ashyaz777]

ummmmmm......................

[@kaliah6410]

Wait will they get my private browsing history

[@jokerthegodofinsanity6087]

@@kaliah6410 google already has

[@seanurbik5022]

Reported

[@jackalslab2230]

All they’re going to see are spellings of common words cause I’m dyslexic

[@icebear326]

Someone that was very close to me was a survivor of the Las Vegas shooting about 3 years ago. They said that they literally had to climb past dead bodies when they were trying to escape, and it definitely did not have a positive impact on their life. It took them around two years to finally get over it. And in those two year they were constantly paranoid and looking over their shoulder even in their own home. Also anything even remotely loud or resembling a gunshot would trigger them and make them freak out.

[@kageshadowfairy]

That must of been so awful for your friend went though and had to witness. But I'm glad to hear that they are recovering/recovered.

[@click.beetle]

I am really sorry that that happened to them. I bet that was horrible.

[@argylecuevas5094]

Well, atleast he's fine now.

[@Yunaschesirekat]

Well obviously but Jigsaws goal was to make PEOPLE appreciate life. Im not trying to sound insensitive but im sure after what your friend saw and expirience, he realized how lucky he is.

[@cactusthestupid7222]

@@Yunaschesirekat But the problem is that "realizing how lucky you are" isn't worth PTSD and paranoia for the rest of your life. Severe trauma _really_ fucks people up, and there just isn't a valid argument that the positive outcomes of it outweigh the negative ones.

[@booboobearie9601]

I also really like that the whole reason Jigsaw does this stuff is because he can. He knows that there is nothing to stop him. The cops are so corrupt that as long as he can hand them some cash and say "yo hush up" he'll be fine. And its not like anyone will miss such corrupt people. He could have just started a therapy group or something, but no. He is such a unique and complex villain and it's so fricking awsome.

[@specto00]

Isn't his paying off of cops not a contradiction to his philosophies tho? If he's so against corruption, why would he do that?

[@meilaoshi9439]

Jigsaw never bribed the police. One of his accomplices is a detective who helped keep the cops off his trail, but Jigsaw never paid any bribes.

[@flatwoodsmothster922]

Got any one wondering the timing for the code is 1:54 Your 4:19 TV (television) 8:07 Is 8:52 Studying 12:14 you (as he refers to “you” as this pops up) I hope this helped!

[@oneandonlysw1tch]

I think it's more for the fact he uses that same person when talking about "you" as the viewer or "you" as a random commenter

[@Toylawyer]

Yeah that’s correct

[@rollforapples6625]

I looked closely and it looked like it said the word "help" on the TV

[@bojarororo]

thanks

[@kwanholloway4112]

I didn't see any of this words at all so I don't know how everyone is seeing your television is studying you

[@SnowWizard174]

Jigsaw Matt: (Threatens to reveal my entire search history) Me who uses incognito mode because I like the dark theme: I am four parallel universe ahead of you.

[@dillondsilva964]

Lol ;)

[@cheshiregamingetc7560]

Good sir google has already done it for ya

[@dontmindme5879]

Incognito mode doesnt stop the cookies tho. So can still be found

[@Funtime2UwU]

The FBI still tracks it down tho

[@fruitykitchka]

It’s just because he likes the dark theme.

[@true7251]

everything in your search history can be explained by "i'm writing a book". EVERYTHING.

[@boydog4282]

Same

[@callmerf6395]

Interesting

[@KING_OF_PLANK]

Or delete your [search] history

[@tessareine]

Oh thank you, I’ll use this excuse when the cops show up

[@flyingfishperson8662]

Even “what do people do with amputated limbs?” Yes I looked that up at about 2:00 am last summer :/

[@Faptastique]

Trauma may help some people but overall, as anyone with ptsd can tell you, it’s not worth it.

[@singingsiren82]

Mind you, Amanda's story line became that she didn't believe anyone could really change so she sabatoged all the traps to be unwillable so the person would ultimately die.

[@mechengr1731]

Didn't she also start cutting herself in Saw III?

[@gunnermitchell7553]

Actually Amanda would never change because she's a drug addict and she neglected jigsaws teachings

[@ory4991]

Little suggestion for theory videos: "cloudy with a chance of meatballs" Like, it's possible to make an machine that transform water into food? What problems would a food rain cause to the environment? And the economy? It's a lot of questions.

[@jamesflowers6921]

Yes the perfect video

[@youtubethefirst4003]

Upvote this ppl cmon

[@oceanjones3732]

this is such a good idea

[@kieralarissabarrett1684]

Here are the swirls if anyone wants to know: 1:51 the swirls is behind the word "your". 4:14 the swirl is on the tv. 8:08 the swirl is behind "is". 8:53 the swirl is behind "studying". 12:16 the swirl is on the person representing "you". Your TV is studying you. Thanks for reading this!

[@Enigmatic666]

Notice the swirl is behind the O in the word "your" id say slash off the R and leave it as "you" another word for an old tv is a "tube tv" that leads me to believe the answer to the riddle is "you tube is studying you."

[@amber5454]

W-what?😗

[@tanuki01]

@@Enigmatic666 which we already knew

[@Enigmatic666]

I legit scoured all these comments and nothing sat right but tbh "you tube is studying you" feels like the right answer to me in my gut.

[@tinytinkergacha7747]

Thanks!

[@ericbeverly8700]

Yes at the end of the day Jigsaw can be seen as a murderous psychopath like any other horror villain, but his unique ideology and backstory for why he does what he does, is why he’s my #1 favorite horror villain. Great video by the way MatPat, I enjoyed watching it!

[@confusedowl445]

"Your TV is studying you" *Slowly rotates head to the general direction of the TV*

[@Bamthis]

“Welcom To Primetime”

[@SSSW.o]

I’ll study you then

[@PossumOnAVacuum]

HEAD ROTATE

[@PossumOnAVacuum]

@Isrel156 it is the age of digital streaming, basically wireless cable

[@ascoutly1593]

*does a 180° head turn then does another turn to look at my screen again*

[@uli659]

“Your entrie browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” People who delete all of their history: I don’t have such weakness

[@thefallenchaoskeeper]

*laughs in incognito*

[@tayloryost9603]

Smart

[@starry_wisp]

Except for the FBI and Google

[@alantonix213]

*Authorities laughing*

[@vshapedface7693]

Omg same:)

[@thequinninator2134]

"youre trauma made you a better, stronger person!" yeah but it also left me with crippling mental disabilities and trust issues soooooooooo

[@StumblingBumblingMilquetoast]

Same though- But it's alright, you aren't dead, and your a better person, soooooooooo

[@demontiming3234]

To sum it up “Trauma made me better but also, ummmmmm *Traumatized* “

[@Thollis1987]

Me too as well

[@snot5061]

I have complex PTSD (four years into recovery, yay me) and I'm a survivor of attempted homicide and I can confirm that I have ended up with a greater appreciation for life and the little moments, I have a much more open mind to people down on their luck, I prioritize my health and happiness more than anything else and I have a greater sense of purpose. But it wasn't always like that. I had and still have disabling mental problems. I struggle holding down jobs, my trauma manifests with visual and auditory hallucinations, there are times where what happened to me feels like it's still happening over and over again. Early in my recovery, it was all pain and struggle without all the positives I experience now. People tend to take the outlook of "Oh, but it made you stronger!" And I argue that while it did in some aspects later down the line, ultimately, I (and everyone else in a similar place) deserved much better. Having a greater appreciation of life is good, but it's easier to navigate life when you don't have ghosts from the past breathing down your neck, figuratively, literally or through a hallucination LOL It's also worth it to mention that not everyone who has developed PTSD gets help or identifies that they have it. When you can't navigate through it and have no one to guide you, some people tend to reap much more negative than positive, like an intense distrust of others, outbursts that could harm themselves or others or a terrible outlook on life to name a few general ones. I know that's where I was before my PTSD was identified or being treated.

[@alnimri]

Since he talked about this being a team game, and in case you missed a word, here you go lads: Word 1) Your - 1:53 Word 2) Television - 4:27 Word 3) Is - 8:05 Word 4) Studying - 8:52 Word 5) You - 12:13 Final Phrase: *_"Your Television (TV) is studying you"_* Our browser history of random questionable facts we learned from MatPat that put us on the FBI watchlist is safe! *Edit:* wrong timestamp on word 5 fixed.

[@thrashmetalkid6669]

^^^^

[@SimpingSoda]

🙏 thank you

[@Badonkidoink]

Thank you fellow citizen

[@phobia1119]

Give this person an award

[@jakeskullz007]

I got two out of the 5 so I Fogged up

[@endergamer4]

"Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." Me: *Laughs in incognito mode* Also Me: *Laughs in lack of friends*

[@gtaskstick2639]

I would go to jail for everything

[@Jpie_]

Laughs in lack of phone

[@Jpie_]

@Just some Forest Ranger with Internet Access What are these...friends, you speak of?

[@biggay4857]

Me: *laughs in no one ever talking to me through SMS*

[@mordiiy]

Fax I have no one on contact list

[@justyouraveragemutantblood2185]

Ah the best way to appreciate life. Ptsd and survivors guilt.

[@balt_kai]

Yes

[@valerius8542]

Yes

[@laurenfredericamoore6117]

Yes

[@perry2921]

Yes

[@vardell9409]

Yes

[@Maziko_Lee]

"Handicapped parking at the d*mn mall!" 😱😱😱 I loved her emotion!

[@ozaym360]

"Your TV is studying you" Well, hope it gets a good grade!

[@tinamay855]

I got a better one Your TV is studying forehead

[@WarmasterWirMustard]

Your tv is studying improv

[@tinamay855]

@@WarmasterWirMustard I was thinking if Mat ever gave a name to him and the name John came up for absolutely no reason. So You TV is studying John

[@black0bird592]

I got what you got and your tv is studying ahead

[@roarkefegan6852]

I agree

[@GabeR115]

Another thing you can say about John Kramer not exactly getting the implementation of his ideology correct is this: he wasn’t fair to everyone. Adam won his game and was still left for dead, the one dude that Amanda had to cut open had to die for Amanda to live, the flammable jelly guy was given a near impossible task, the guy in the drill chair was never given a game before Sing had to save his life, and that’s just the first movie. If John wanted to improve people’s lives effectively, everyone should get the same chance. Theoretically, if he found a trap that worked, he should put everyone in the same one. But he didn’t, he used a different trap each time because he enjoyed playing God and seeing them suffer

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

He's just a villain who tried to use some vague intellectual-sounding philosophy to make it seem like he has a reason for killing people beyond just that he likes it.

[@GabeR115]

@@ShadeSlayer1911 even up until Amanda failed her test at the end of 3, he seemed to truly believe in his ideology. That’s what makes him interesting. He truly believed he was changing peoples’ lives for the better

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

@@GabeR115 much like Thanos, I think the real interesting thing about Cramer as a character is how effectively he convinced others, both their own followers and people who watched the movies, that they truly believed their bs. Because Thanos showed in his very next movie that all that "save the universe by killing half of it" was just a front, but still people were convinced that he was genuine. I think Kramer is very similar in this aspect.

[@GabeR115]

@@ShadeSlayer1911 Thanos WAS still genuine. The Avengers made him change his mind on his plan. He believed that if he did the snap, people would realize that what he did was meant to help them and they would be grateful. When they went through enough effort to go back in time and undo it, he realized people would never see eye-to-eye with him and he’d have to create an entire new universe where people didn’t remember or could find out what he did. Instead of thinking that his idea might be wrong, he clung to it so hard he was willing to destroy what he was originally trying to save

[@laplongejunior]

@@GabeR115 Out-of-universe, it's also because Thano's ideology has been dumbed down. In the comics (referenced in The Avengers post-credit), Thanos is in love with the cosmic entity in charge of Death, so killing people was its own goal. The MCU switched to "half the required resources" which not only can hilariously be solved in the same way as the gauntlet can do anything *including doubling the ressources* , but the simple fact that lifeforms reproduce make this halving temporary.

[@catherineburow2813]

I agree with some of the takes on this philosophy of trauma. I went through deep emotional hardship and I can genuinely say that the realisation I gained was worth the many months of severe distress, the challenging (and still ongoing) recovery and the activation of my predisposition to IBS. But in this case, I wold say it worked just for me, and only because I wasn't traumatised, just deeply hurt. I think I experienced a pretty lucky hardship all said. Getting out with an iron-clad sense of self and knowing exactly what you want to do with your life at the age of only 17 was pretty nice, and my medical and other issues are made easily manageable with medication and care. So I agree that huge, life-changing realisation can come from situations of hardship that you aren't yet equipped to deal with. But I also think that suffering to the extent of real trauma isn't worth it because there is a lot of suffering that the mind is never equipped to deal with, which can, one way or another, lead to death (suicide, emotional distress leading to heart failure, panic attacks, activation of genetic diseases due to mental health weakening the immune system, spiralling out of control and taking out their trauma on people via murder and torture and such).

[@nintendogh0st]

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts” guess it’s time to go into permanent creative mode

[@fnafgamer3302]

Yep

[@haunted1659]

Jokes on you i use incognito mode so my history isn't kept

[@EditKingdumb]

*YOU FOOL!* *I HAVE SEVENTY ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS!*

[@hoggle9415]

@@haunted1659 it’s just not kept to your knowledge lol

[@EditKingdumb]

@@hoggle9415 I have SEVENTY ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS

[@alanjukic6743]

film theory idea: John Wick: how much time did it take John to learn every skill he posesses

[@TheFerretofEarth]

It took him 20 minutes of montage training

[@cosmicchimp1939]

DO this!!!!

[@gamaman401]

batman too.. he knows everything 😂😂😂

[@LivRayner]

Secret code: 1:51 - “your” 4:14 - “television” 8:05 - “is” 8:51 - “studying” 12:15 - “you” (I think)

[@sansthecomic590]

Ah you for the for head guy that makes sense but me and some other guy found 7 total marks so who knows

[@tripleas2578]

I got that too

[@luigigaming8888]

Same

[@angelcaberto4095]

Me: instantly throws out my tv

[@bodyofamanspiritofabeast7130]

U deserve a sub

[@linksoni213]

Yeah a lot of people miss the point Trauma doesn't help you grow, you grow despite the trauma

[@emilykeepsmiling9465]

One major problem I've always had with the Saw franchise is that Jigsaw judges who didn't appreciate / wasted their life by his own standards. Ok the photographer was a private eye who helped catch cheating spouses etc, but he still made a successful career using something he was talented at.

[@warrickgirl37]

Very few of the people he puts into traps deserve to be there in my opinion. Lynn from Saw 3 was withdrawn from her family and taking anti-depressants due to the tragic death of her son but Jigsaw forces her into a collar that will blow off her head if she can’t keep him alive. Or Joyce in Saw 3D who is roasted alive simply because her husband was a liar, she had no idea he was lying about being a jigsaw victim. But in a way it makes the world of Saw much scarier, because if you aren’t living your life according to jigsaw’s views you could wake up with a reverse bear trap on your head.

[@animeman8203]

@@warrickgirl37 Lynn was also cheating on her husband so there's that.

[@strawberrypencl]

Everyone judges everyone else by their own standards

[@Zain-iv9yv]

Omg I loved Adam. He didn’t deserve to die. He was actually doing a good thing by catching cheaters, he wasn’t even a bad guy.

[@Zain-iv9yv]

I don’t get how catching cheaters is a bad thing, when in fact it’s a good thing. Maybe that was the irony in the film.

[@munchydoodles4538]

Matt: ”Your search history will be exposed to everyone... Me: ”Oh, no” Matt: ”To your contact list” Me: *”OH NO”* Edit: Tysm, for the likes guys! This is the most I ever got on a comment lol.

[@calcifaudios2746]

Me, who's been listening to yagami yato

[@demonictogaaftoncipherstar4271]

MWAHAHAHAHAHA I USE INCOGNITO MODE SO I DON’T HAVE SUCH WEAKNESSES

[@demonictogaaftoncipherstar4271]

@@calcifaudios2746 What about you uhhm search the internet for ‘information’ about Himiko and Ururaka?

[@calcifaudios2746]

@@demonictogaaftoncipherstar4271 nah, more like kachaan and todo

[@demonictogaaftoncipherstar4271]

@@calcifaudios2746 Wow u really gunna dump Ururaka like that?

[@OfficialLuni]

Jigsaw be the type of person to say "your trauma helped you grow". And like a wise tumblr user once said: "the only thing that shouldve helped me grow was milk and vegetables"

[@MJ-zl3vo]

🙌

[@mozvidz]

*If this was on Netflix, the Film Theorist would get cancelled for even suggesting this was helping people at all.*

[@brandonbbrady]

Dang jigsaw you just killing bad people

[@mrree8043]

I dont think there is such a thing as a "wise" tumblr user.

[@OfficialLuni]

@@mrree8043 at least we have nice shoelaces

[@Old_Reliable_Engine]

"Your tv is studying you" is the code I believe, and it's also somewhat unerving.

[@ranaamirk]

thats what i got aswell

[@karenbonds264]

Billy Pat: "Everyone will know your browser history if you fail this test!" Incognito browsers: "Are you really in charge here?"

[@PotatoCrash]

Mass perverts : friends

[@isaiahtha0g495]

69 like ayyy

[@mrperson8585]

Incognito still let's your internet provide r so not much really changes

[@plate_fox]

I just get a new computer every time I use the internet and destroy the used ones by launching them into the sun

[@beewaxeater]

government: its funny how dumb you are

[@apricotbuncakes]

“Your TV is studying you” Probably, considering how many targeted adds it has.

[@ArielKro]

Thats what i got

[@ralfie_isepic9641]

@@sekoseko2165 but why, why would you do that?

[@TumGrum]

@@ralfie_isepic9641 have no idea why they did that I thought I was going to be rick rolled I'm disappointed

[@lyn_jae]

@@ralfie_isepic9641 What did they say? It seems they deleted their comment.

[@kristianrehorovsky7717]

I got: Your flashback is studying improv xD

[@yourlocalrottenkiwi9836]

How to beat MatPat in the begining: DELETE EVERY CONTACT YOU HAVE

[@muhammadabdulla3580]

It has downloaded your contacts even if you delete it bothing wont change

[@thedootlord]

@@muhammadabdulla3580 just dont have friends

[@dylanthegpoplayer1885]

I easily beat him with crusader of the snazzl’s plan I’m sad

[@justaplant5242]

easy to beat i dont have friends

[@bornabalazinec8226]

you are a GENIUS

[@MonsterPrincessLala]

I love that matpat acknowledged PTSD. It causes so much cognitive issues too. I can't even look at a foggy window, I'll probably never drive, and my day to day life is so much harder now because I need to walk with a cane. There's nothing good about trauma.

[@tamrabrawley4573]

I’m sorry. If I may ask what happened to you? I’m sorry if this brings up bad memories but I’m genuinely curious about what caused your trauma.

[@aynDRAWS]

As someone with PTSD, I can say that the trauma that affected me made me more aware of my life, and every day I am thankful. While I hate what happened to me, it made me the person I am. That said, I experience extreme anxiety, suffered an eating disorder, and still have nightmares six years later due to my trauma.

[@bean_bttf3]

I’m really sorry to hear that, and I hope you’re doing well now. I just wanted to let you know that I care, that’s why I’m leaving this comment. Stay safe.

[@aynDRAWS]

@@bean_bttf3 😊

[@bean_bttf3]

@@aynDRAWS 😇

[@imsuperlazi]

Hope you do well in your life

[@aynDRAWS]

I just came back to this comment- I sincerely hope there was a reason I left this on the video and that I wasn't just trauma dumping. 😑

[@Gatsby_OW]

JigPat: "Let's play a game. Your entire search and browsing history.." Me: Do it coward. I have no shame

[@syntrick2815]

I'm betting on the amount of confusion and shock will be plenty of time to give me a head start.

[@ricardo.compere8504]

With fbi software

[@thebiglink]

Lol what search history

[@jaywortman3444]

Well time to clear my search history

[@doomer17o]

Agreed

[@couronne100]

In the words of a great Doctor: "Almost dying doesn't change anything."

[@cockroachv]

HOUSE MD!!!! BEST TV DOCTOR EVER! THERE IS NO COMPETITION!

[@Crazy-77]

In the words of a great tv show Doctor*

[@SuperLemun]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHbSooN_bKuEZtU

[@-Galaxy-2695]

Hahha

[@mrjimjim1114]

Yeah ikr I agree if u almost die then ur either stressed out or happy ur alive

[@comicfan1324]

The thing is, even if you put aside how messed up it is to put peoples lives on the line as a way of “bettering“ their lives, jigsaw isn’t even consistent with these methods. There’s a lot of people put into his game that are left in traps that are literally impossible to overcome. How are their lives in proved? And even if you try arguing that “that isn’t there to improve their lives, but to make the other participants happy they didn’t get put in that trap“ that defeats the purpose of trying to improve someone’s life if it means ending someone else’s. Not to mention that the survivors are most likely going to have to deal with survivors guilt

[@holy8453]

"Your TV is studying you" that is the five words

[@ketchupjooce4962]

Ty

[@tmftmftmftmf4024]

Good

[@TheRealJuniForlife]

Thanks we can’t see mine

[@bigeyepotato5815]

How did you get that? I wanna know just to see if I can find it too

[@doctorcorgi3134]

@@bigeyepotato5815 rewatch the video while looking for that green spiral at the same time, and if you're generous put a time stamp for each one.

[@games8-6-9]

1:50 (your) 4:40 (its on the tv so tv) 8:05 (is) 8:53 (mon "studying" mcu so studdying) 12:14 (on the animated stock photo of "you") Your tv is watching you and in less then 1 hour nice

[@rocraft.]

It's studying not watching

[@games8-6-9]

@@rocraft. that was a mistake You saw I did put studying in my notes

[@rocraft.]

@@games8-6-9 Ik just saying

[@mannypants2436]

what about hte one with the person with the spril on their head

[@silask.1966]

@@mannypants2436 that is „you“

[@darthshimp07]

I’m pretty sure if John lived long enough to see Minecraft he would’ve enjoyed the redstone

[@imawraithmain2406]

Ye

[@MetheusBatanir]

Yes, next Mumbo Jumbo - JiggySAWredstoneR

[@alphaquazar7569]

He would have made the best redstone traps ever

[@MetheusBatanir]

"Do you want to play (block)game"

[@melialin2889]

@@MetheusBatanir yes!!! Hermitcraft!!!

[@heidiwang2033]

The secret message in this video was: Helping others is something that brings a sense of fulfilment into your own life.

[@kotoshiseiko2938]

That's way more than 5 words...

[@srdjan455]

The franchise itself also says that Jigsaw way doesn't always work. Some people did not get a new improved view on life and his own students turned on his ways with Amanda downright rejecting it.

[@eddiewahlstrom4431]

There is also the fact that the people in Jigsaw's games are not there on choise, the difference beetween a natural disaster and one of his games is that Jigsaw forces people through them. No person has any right to force someone through a life and death situation so that they can "appreciat life more".

[@LucIndustries]

Right because the people who have their homes destroyed by an earthquake chose that faith.

[@Lucivius27]

@@LucIndustries I am waiting for a typhoon to change my gaming addiction ways.

[@eddiewahlstrom4431]

@@LucIndustries Maybe I wrote it confusingly, I meant that Jigsaw choses for them and forces them through a life threatening situation wheras a natural disaster such as an earthquake is basicly pure chanse.

[@jibbythehippy3371]

I mean... it is just a movie and the people in it are actually just actors and are getting paid a lot so sure i guess?

[@eddiewahlstrom4431]

@@jibbythehippy3371 Fair enough

[@covereye5731]

I'm amazed you said “Your entire browser history will be sent to everyone in your contacts list” and still missed the opportunity for a VPN sponsor

[@owenkammer9501]

Haha, very true😂

[@bjgobraxy6862]

No cap tho😂😂

[@possiblyrelevant3175]

Hm yes😂😂😂

[@-carpet-]

Jigsaw: i want people to appreciate life Also jigsaw: puts a guy in a nearly impossible trap for missing work to enjoy life

[@pastorcodymitchell1456]

jigsaw:slightest inconvenience i want to play a game

[@mulchgulper]

"your tv is studying you" That's cool but have you ever heard of this disease called "I don't have a face cam"

[@Emma-zu9se]

“Even if I did... I don’t have a face” 🤭

[@mariwolf6924]

Nah I just tape my cam

[@julietlee8305]

wait how... pls tell me how you got that

[@mulchgulper]

@@julietlee8305 sure thing. I wanted ps vr and my parents refused to buy it for me, so now I don't have a ps camera, so I now I have the disease

[@lilastari3160]

@@julietlee8305 about the words or what he replied

[@narupiv]

The very first person that escapes one of his traps becomes a murderous psycho after escaping. Creating more murderers is NOT a good outcome

[@mn_seahawk25thehawk64]

Right! Not a single person who survived a trap came out a better person. The only one who did was the guy who lied about being in a trap to begin with lmfao

[@mdiqbalhossen2493]

Me: Looks at my search history My Search History: “Pictures of Toothless with human feet” Me: Umm... Panicks

[@andrewwilkinson7832]

Main Lesson: a moderate degree of suffering can lead to more positive personal development. While significantly traumatic experiences can as well but are not worth the long-term negative mental consequences.

[@bigrod9173]

No he died renember

[@nicholassaunsoci4861]

“Your tv is studying you” Meanwhile my phone is giving me ads for the thing I thought about for 2 seconds yesterday

[@rosaleekarisma7039]

Your TV is studying stock image of man

[@wheatsock]

Ikr?

[@wheatsock]

@@TheWorldWideWebTheSqueakuel2 hahaha nice link

[@driftingdruid]

internet and phone already study me for commercial and data-driven purposes, sooooo....

[@wheatsock]

@@driftingdruid ikr

[@GammaShae]

As someone who has ptsd, ive seen many books and therapists saying that people say it was for the better is a way of coping. Telling yourself that it happened for a reason or that you changed for the better makes it more bearable to live with and feel less like it was all for nothing. Just suffering for the sake of suffering. So even if jigsaw was right, its only because certain people happen to cope that way, not because its a fact of trauma.

[@Yunaschesirekat]

that one girl who had to cut off her arm while watching this "LOOK AT MY ARM." "WHAT WAS I SOPPSOED TO LEARN:

[@raileybase5111]

Gahahahah

[@PossumOnAVacuum]

She was supposed to learn how amazing handicapped parking was

[@arminia1406]

Ha true ^^

[@C.L.Sin66]

THE HIDDEN WORDS ARE: 1. Your 2. Television 3. Is 4. Studying 5. You

[@deathuwu7545]

laughs in pc and mobile user

[@itsalamp1175]

@@deathuwu7545 Nice

[@McNugget7511]

@@deathuwu7545 you think you're phone, which is a pocket camera and microphone on top of being a social device, isn't studying you?

[@nerdadendem]

Guess what I though it was "your power is studying improv" 😂😂😂😂 I knew that didn’t quite make sense so I had to see what was actually found 😂😂😂

[@MorrisseyMuse]

@@McNugget7511 you seriously think an external entity is able to use my camera or mic on my phone without me knowing..?! lol

[@derekc2425]

"Your TV is studying you" Yeah yeah, as if our phone camera's weren't enough for the government.

[@Sam_995]

Here are the times Your 1:50 Tv 4:20 Is 8:06 Studying 8:56 You 12:14

[@dannyblantom5243]

@@Sam_995 Studying is actually 8:52

[@dannyblantom5243]

Y- your TV is studying you!

[@r3dp9]

I'm less worried about governments than the megacorporations. China might be a tad abusive toward it's people, and any neighbor they can bully into becoming their people, but Google is on the path to literal world domination. Google has no borders.

[@OnyxNinja09]

Lmao

[@mask938]

Pain promotes growth, but too much of anything is bad for you. I once heard that you can go insane without ever realizing it. I think that’s what happened to John after his failed suicide attempt. I think John went insane, didn’t realize it and mistook it for an epiphany.

[@Manj_J]

I like this theory the most!

[@Evan-mt7bc]

The problem with Jigsaw's character is that when he was faced with extreme trauma that led to grief, depression and self spiraling it was to events out of his control. When he lost his would be son, he didn't do that, when he was diagnosed with cancer, he didn't do that. It wasn't until he put HIMSELF in a situation, his suicide attempt that he attempted was he able to reaffirm his beliefs in life that changed him for the "better". He created his own trap to judge himself and when he "overcame" it was when his meaningful change took place. Jigsaw misses this CRITICAL aspect of his experiences and HE puts OTHER people in situations of HIS choosing. By Jigsaw's own experience, he's wrong and it's very clearly evident that Jigsaw lacks the self reflection he boasts about in the films as justifications. If Jigsaw's traps were dummy traps that were intended to psychologically torment someone to push them into their self destruction or overcome their flaws then he would have had a point because the people aren't facing the consequences of THEIR actions. You can clearly see that subconsciously this is the major takeaway of the movie by most people because videos and discussion about SAW and it's traps are about how to SURVIVE Jigsaw's games. Subconsciously the narrative is always painting Jigsaw as the villain when the intended ideology of Jigsaw is a Man vs Self type of conflict instead the discussion about the conflict in SAW is Man Vs Man or Man vs Jigsaw.

[@kietdo4379]

Yep, that's right. Overcome YOUR OWN trap is the only REASON you're grow. Just like a crab break out of their old shell to grow. Overcome SOMEONE ELSE trap doesn't make you grow but only promote TRAUMA, VIOLENCE and SADISTIC. Let's just look at Amanda case: she is addicted. Would it be more sense for her if a trap is somehow "not inhale heroine thus get the key" type ? That would be put her to position where she fight her own monster with her life on the line and if she win means she has its in her: STRENGTH to grow, to overcome heroine addiction. By putting her in "rip that man open to get the key" game, I doubt Amanda would learn anything except: "when you're life is on a line, murdered is okay" and soon with her addiction, the lesson shall be twisted to become: "killing is okay as long as it's serve my purpose" Intended or not, the film had made an implicit idea that "just by survival a horror situation, you will be better", which is totally wrong, thus why PTSD treatment come in at first place.

[@sergiogonzalezcalderon7306]

Chill dude

[@DaybreakPT]

@@sergiogonzalezcalderon7306 You chill. Let people share their ideas like in the video you watched.

[@mikayleedenay2534]

@@DaybreakPT based

[@iluvmilktea3224]

*insert laoding noises* Wat? Me no get.

[@daughter-of-loki1062]

"Your television is studying you" It's probably mad at me for playing Warframe so much

[@samreddig8819]

You and i are alike, bound through the powers of the Void.

[@detectivecatfromdiscord5047]

Bot in the comments alert

[@samreddig8819]

@@detectivecatfromdiscord5047 Oi im made of flesh you know (mostly).

[@darthplague6173]

Eyy, a fellow tenno

[@lotus_r1ce478]

Tennos where you at?? :D

[@Drawliphant]

I think the self-reporting aspect of the study you cited could be problematic. The control group seems valid but people *want* their trama to have meant something even if it didn't. Nobody wants to admit they suffered pointlessly.

[@gracefulbean9894]

That's a really good point. I think I can understand that- just because they gave responses doesn't necessary mean those responses were TRUE. Is that what you're saying? If so, seriously, well done!

[@Kimberly-bj9ns]

that's what i was thinking as well. and a lot of times like with ptsd, it affects the person years after the incident, so those survivors of jigsaw may believe it helped them, but it's only because the true weight of the trauma just hasn't hit them yet.

[@dragonlord1935]

@@Kimberly-bj9ns Yeah, it's essentially a type of Stockholm Syndrome but for an experience instead of an individual.

[@reda29100]

The study is not about objective nature like "how much likely your chance of developing a cardiac arrest has increased or decreased?" Rather, it's totally subjective, nd is about "how do you feel regarding X?". While *you are right* that they could be under some cognitive bias or psychological effect of some sort that made them look at the event differently (say how people think about losing a loved one suddenly like in an accident, differing between someone who *actually* lost a loved one in an accident, as opposed to someone who didn't. I know that was a confusing sentence but my point is how people think about the subject with or without going through it.) They could be, and are likely, thinking differently, but that's what the study, based on what MapPat presented, is about.

[@rowantic6539]

You have watched bojack.

[@i0wab0y14]

Your TV is studying you “My browsing history is same”

[@jubal6431]

"your TV is studying you" *Me who actually is studying the TV*

[@hannahphillips6474]

Reverse uno!

[@benjaminnorman4843]

isn't it your camera is studying you? bc the symbol was on the little camera?

[@rachaelreyes4610]

Only if it has a recording device such as smart TVs of nowadays the old turn-based dial TVs did not have camera-based technology or recording technology integrated into them so it had to be the television itself.

[@smjacob.]

mood lmao

[@masterofdragons82]

*big brain*

[@rayebeard]

“Pain doesn’t make people. It’s love that makes people. The pain is inconsequential. It’s love that saves them.” -Caduceus Clay (Taliesin Jaffe)

[@clunkclink9484]

👌

[@demetrickshields7045]

Jigsaw should kidnap people put them on a date and if that dosent work he then sets up the traps

[@chaoschaoskatie]

YES wise words from my favorite cleric!

[@kyoshinka]

👏 All the words I wanted to say in one simple quote.

[@drakeraymis2571]

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts in 1 hour.” **Deletes everyone from my contacts**

[@Home_Reuben]

Greats idea ever

[@bucket5036]

Hahahaha. I don't need to worry because I don't have anyone in my contacts

[@therealeikichionizuka]

Genius.

[@wolfancap6897]

Outstanding move

[@eileenmurphy263]

Big brain

[@carolynchurch4642]

"Your tv is studying you" This is the secret 5 words.

[@marleyhernandez3416]

“Your entire search history will be released” What’s 4+7? What does devour mean? Who’s the first president?

[@psuedo_levi]

But what does devour mean... 😳

[@Arreis_004]

How tall is peppa pig really? Pepe the frog sleeping mask Symptoms of insomnia When does Taco Bell open?

[@KittyPower042]

4+7 is 11 Devour means to eat something hungrily or quickly The first president is George Washingmachine

[@maximhoppe5094]

so basicly all the important things in life

[@MalaSfm]

The True question Here Is Whats 4 + 7 again?

[@nottheone5350]

The secret message is either: “ your family is studying you” or “Your TV is studying you” either way it’s creepy.. thanks matpat 😂😂😂

[@elmundodecram3731]

Where is it?

[@Eternon2000]

@@elmundodecram3731 Everywhere

[@the_brotherhood]

Wait so my tv has been watching me or my family both are bad but I don't use my tv sooooooo it is jealous of me not using it

[@That_Thicc_Cat]

Thank you for saving us

[@Bridg3567]

i think its the name of the brand of tv, cause its centered on the brand label

[@firestarr5812]

“Your entire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts.” I don’t have a browsing history, I use incognito mode!

[@tyedye1284]

same!

[@thesoperidijot9174]

Well my history is logged in a locked chest on hypixel

[@ZoanBlade90]

I use Duck Duck Go!

[@tbnrrenagade9507]

I am truly invisible 'cause I repeatedly delete my browsing history to save storage space and I don't use google (I know)

[@shattereddreams88]

Yes you don't have your history saved, but incognito doesn't prevent ghost files that do exist

[@YUnGYuNI532]

I still don’t think what jigsaw did was right. Sure, some survivors had a positive effect, but others had ptsd. The worst part is most people didn’t even survive

[@liule8226]

There are mainly some people who are innocent, and they will be forced to play games without doing anything.

[@maxis_scott_engie_maximov_jr]

"Your entire search history will be sent to everyone" Me: **Laughs in Rick Roll**

[@steam453elegant9]

I have no search history and I use nord vpn

[@estertimbol8531]

The smartest rickroll

[@__User_Here__]

@@steam453elegant9 hes to powerful to be kept alive

[@NitromantoHDTR]

Me: *Laughs in polish cow*

[@chimythegamer5967]

You need to have contacts for that to be scary

[@vvizion2015]

Me who uses incognito mode and deletes all my search history: *I dont have such weaknesses*

[@idkwhatimdoing5268]

I use guest tabs, and alternate accounts made specifically for things such as this

[@mako34392]

Facts tho

[@sarahflerlage9493]

I don't even have a friggin phone! Haha😂

[@idkwhatimdoing5268]

@@sarahflerlage9493 honestly same

[@Ferri-San]

All of the data you've deleted and all of the things you did in incognito is still stored in a google server. The only way to truly be safe is to use a vpn.

[@dragon9261]

I had a moment there where I was sitting there like "He's not actually going to say trauma makes people better" and then he didn't and I was like "oh thank god"

[@catcat1088]

It does though (in a way kinda)

[@mold9158]

Well no, because it kind of like repairing a broken bowl. Sure it works again, and sometimes it may look even better. But it’s still permanently damaged.

[@joeyfrare5465]

The thing is he was saying that the entire episode

[@dragon9261]

@@catcat1088 no

[@gamingspacemonkey]

Im anxious, therefore empathetic. But also therefore I don’t socially engage as often, I can babble nonsense because I don’t want dead air, and that’s just the ways I affect other people.

[@Overlord-ew7wm]

This example of enhancement rings true for everyone or a great deal of people, for an example, when uncle ben dies and spidey decides to be a hero from it

[@safiree2913]

"Your intire browsing history will be sent to everyone in your contacts." Good luck finding my browsing history. I've been hiding it to my mother for years after I got caught watching KZbin way to long.

[@DragonballBlack]

The Saw Theme is 4Ever GOATED

[@gabrielt.c]

It's my favorite horror movie theme song by FAR!!!

[@clappyfiappy4459]

i see u in every comment section

[@untoter5051]

TRUE

[@hasashikarami7641]

Facts 👌

[@KuroDCupu]

I keep seein your dragonball girl upload

[@Fetty06]

“I had a reverse card” there are your five words, good luck

[@mulletbrother]

Me to

[@user-ee7hr8xg5w]

@the boi mat pat

[@robodogman8730]

Mine too

[@agnesereliene9480]

Me to

[@speere8825]

@@user-ee7hr8xg5w your mom

[@MarcusBean-vq4fe]

Your tv is studying you. That is the code. Now Matpat, DO NOT GIVE MY SEARCH HISTORY TO EVERYONE IN MY CONTACTS.

[@icewallowkids6628]

Adam: survives past the goal and literally wins the game even though it was rigged from the start Jigsaw: “ nah you can just die in here im gonna go save that guy who cut his foot off or whatever”

[@pastorcodymitchell1456]

we need sequels after all

[@justamon2281]

We can’t ignore that he also adds the extra trauma of being afraid that if they DONT change their lives they’ll be locked up again and probably won’t be so lucky on the next try

[@samalvarez8776]

As someone who suffers from PTSD from a highly abusive relationship and had to grow up with mental abuse, I'm not so sure that trauma itself made me a better person. It was overcoming all the abuse throughout my life that made me better. Even now, I still think that if I didn't have to grow up in a mentally unstable environment, I would be a better adult. The mental abuse is what made me turn towards physical abuse, because I honestly felt like I didn't deserve better. I still get flashbacks about my ex, I still wake up in a sweat with nightmares. Granted, it's getting better. I am in a better place, with my husband now that adores me. I still can't help but think that if I did grow up in a stable home, I would have seen my worth and done better with my life as a young adult.

[@meowntown69]

Yeah, as a SA survivor, this theory really makes me uncomfortable

[@gracegrace2819]

@@meowntown69 same

[@Anonymous-zd1ow]

Suffering and trauma are good motivators but you're right, it's the overcoming part.

[@Anonymous-zd1ow]

Also I should add that he brought up something similar at 11:37.

[@ClockworkBlade]

I entirely agree this theory makes me uncomfortable... Traumatizing events don’t make you better, they hurt and terrify you... I still cry at night and wake up screaming

[@darthzayexeet3653]

Jigsaw: “Trauma helps people grow and change their lives for the better” PTSD: *I’m about to end this man’s whole career*

[@thewingedhussarpl6613]

JigPat: “Your browser history will be exposed” Me: laughs in incognito and VPN

[@ericortiz3182]

E

[@_grievous_the_epok_gamur_7140]

@@sekoseko2165 shut

[@siguythetacoguy7438]

Ha it’s in five words

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

google still sees your history, even with incognito. And wtf would a vpn do? That has nothing to do with browser history

[@mitcheldxdyt]

XD

[@alvinjunier6644]

"Your sin is studying you" I know everybody says its tv but when you zoom in and use anti-blur you can see the company name and it says sin or something like that 1:50 YOUR 4:14 Sin (everybody thought its the tv) 8:05 IS 8:52 STUDYING 12:14 YOU And when you think about it why my tv studying me my sin is studying me is more spooky. I can give an anti-blurred version of the pic

[@thehaikuking8680]

As seen with the "you" spiral near the end of the video, the spiral on the TV could easily mean "TV" and not be the actual word on the top right that is very blurry. Also, in the TV scene, there is the number 3 that flashes in the top right of the TV screen. I don't know why it would be "Your 3 is watching you" but it is there. I also don't know if that 3 is in the movie, but I doubt it. Also, there is NO reason to comment on ALL of the comments saying "Nah, you're all wrong because I found some very obscure TV that resembles this one and it says 'Sin' so it means Sin, not TV. So you guys are all wrong." Even if it were true that it is Sin and not TV, you are wasting your time, just as I am now. Also... I've never EVER heard of "Anti-blur" before, but it sounds like you made it up. I'd like to see the photo, though. If I can see the word Sin and it doesn't look photoshopped AND still resembles the logo on the blurry TV, I will concede and say that you are right. But for future reference, don't copy and paste your reply to multiple different comments. I looked. They are all word-for-word copies. And it's also the only way you could've replied to four different comments within 2 minutes. At least with the size of your reply. Again, I know I am wasting my time, but I still wanted to reply to you saying all of this. Even though there is a very, very, very slim chance that you will even CONSIDER reading all of this... I wanted to take my time to reply to your big collection of copy-paste replies that add no weight to what you say. If you actually read this whole comment... I hope you have a GREAT day. If you skimmed or just skipped to this last section... I hope you have the day you deserve, you monster... Byyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@greason]

I found a reply to a comment that said it says death, and now i know that i am super triggered by all the ppl that just copied other ppls comments and in doing so got it wrong

[@marinamonticelli3982]

12:14 Me: Forehead?

[@WereWolfNights]

If you go back and watch the first few movies, it's an S.I.N.Brand TV and remote.

[@alexanderelderhorst2107]

to be fair it was Matt's fault for having a word so small nobody can read it, but either tv or sin could work, although sin would work less so because you don't have just one sin, normally people would say your sins (plural) and then are obviously. I think even though it might say sin, it's meant to be the tv as a whole.

[@BrotherTheory]

Thanos Was Right Jigsaw Was Right MatPat: Everyone can be right. And when everyone's right....no one will be.

[@idioticgamesincorporated3567]

@@sekoseko2165 SHUT UP

[@brohaywood]

@@idioticgamesincorporated3567 that is mean

[@On_the.underside]

Yep there are a lot of "villans" who might have a point

[@shek7974]

Incredibles reference

[@explodingdragonmaster757]

Lol

[@AlenNoblet]

Next thing you know, Matt Patt's gonna start testing his theory on people who didn't subscribe.

[@Kuroro2345]

While both Amanda and Gordon adopted Jigsaw's philosophies, there's a big difference between those two; Amanda INTENTIONALLY made her traps inescapable (seen in everything she did in Saw III)! By making all of her traps inescapable, she wasn't following John Kramer's ideology anymore... Amanda became a killer (no surprise THAT would make John put her into her last "game" 😒)!

[@ghonnh20]

Amanda was just a killer without limits, so Jigsaw put her in a game that ended in Amanda's death

[@Kuroro2345]

@@ghonnh20 Don't forget the other reason she failed her "game"; Hoffman threatened to expose her role as the "mastermind" behind the botched robbery that ended up causing John's wife her miscarriage - killing their unborn child, Gideon!

[@ezzy2204]

She put some people in inescapable traps (most notably the angel trap) so the coops couldn't discover the killers.

[@loganwolv3393]

What's funny is that she could have easily survived the last game. Seriously all she had to do is listen to the other guy and honestly she could have still killed him or perhaps find a way out somehow.

[@bm-ub6zc]

That means one of the only two survivors became an evil serial killer. Good job, jigsaw, very therapeutic traps.