FINAL COMPLETE EU5 Political WORLD MAP & CULTURAL WARS !

[@LudietHistoria]

Watch oirats next take on the whole world of eu4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXNeZtsoqh6kNU EDIT: Guys my comment about the new world was that there's NO MAP OR WAY OF GETTING THE ACTUAL BORDERS SO ITS ALL MADE UP, not that there weren't people there or something like that or that they were cavement....I've seen some comments below calling me very hurtful names from misinterpreting what I said. Map here - drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-np_euNvEkXkolvrgTaA_yxP854tue0y?usp=sharing Original post by jumz77 - www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1ecoc1y/eu5_atlas_the_complete_political_map_of_europe/

[@kunatix7033]

15:29 Metalurgy was an important part of the Incan culture, it's just that they sticked to bronze, gold and silver. You should really dive into the Incan history because there are a lot of misconceptions bro

[@LudietHistoria]

@@kunatix7033 oh I am aware sir. They did have it, but didn't use it to the extent the rest of the world was using it at, and also that's the incas and some bits of central america, which the vast majority of the rest just used wtv tools they could get their hands on from trade and such. My point was that it wasn't a widespread and common tech for them

[@yavuzselimyildiz328]

Don't ask me how I know, but we'll have to wait till 2027 for eu5

[@kunatix7033]

@@LudietHistoria It was a very common tech, they just didn't use it as much for weapons as the old world. Most of the bronze weapons were reserved for the upper class. Edit: Talking about the Incas

[@JohnDoe-bh2lp]

9:35 This applies to almost every major ruler in history before industrialization, why are you going out of your way to make Mansa Musa look bad? Why didn't you do that for every other country? Something's wrong with EU players, as soon as they see black Africans or gypsies they go crazy lmao weirdos. Thank God I'm in USA and not Romania.

[@ahmadother]

I'm ngl, I'm kinda scared of playing this game.. Probably the one game that made me genuinely feel small, if that makes sense.

[@crazydinosaur8945]

im scared, but more for my PC

[@alexk7173]

@@crazydinosaur8945 real, my ten year old chip is dying fast, vic3 can barely be handled from 1875 on, can only imagine the strain from this game. hopefully they learned their lesson from vic3 though, repetitive code prevents smooth running

[@Yes-qj4bi]

Scared for my wallet another 200-400 for a game with all dlc

Your PC will be fine. Eu4 uses only 1 core efficiently. Most of you have 4-6 core cpus now.

[@henrycrystal9740]

vic2

[@npcknuckles5887]

I can't wait for my PC to run this at 1 fps in the mid to late game.

[@edwxx20001]

dont worry, someone will make a mod to "fix" the framerate

[@MK-ev5rz]

I'm gonna buy so much RAM when this comes out!

[@Chuck12312]

i found the meta for eu5 world conquest, just get an artist to fail at art school

[@LudietHistoria]

austrian art schools will be sponsored by all neighbouring nations in eu5

[@grimgorironside]

Amazing how everytime someone makes this joke they think it's so original, it's really getting stale.

[@michaelwilson5866]

@@grimgorironside you must be from that art school now they accept everyone. They don’t want a repeat so here you are.

[@grimgorironside]

@@michaelwilson5866 hahaha, omg your saying im hitler, im so offended. seriously what a lame attempt at an insult, how old are you?

[@michaelwilson5866]

@@grimgorironside sigh. No. I’m not calling you him. I’m saying you are the product of a watered down program post war aimed at not offending anyone so no one gets a quality education. By removing rejection you get low talented people who think they have talent. By assuming I’m calling you Hitler is a sign that I am correct in your low quality.

[@petercevallos258]

Ludi saying it's all oral tradition when the Aztecs and Mayans literally both had writings systems leaving behind records of the histories of their respective regions. Both being translated smh. The Incans are mainly oral, but we do have records depicting population sizes and food production, as well as a dated oral history so we know who ruled Cuzco and when.

[@Quickshot0]

Yeah it's a bit exaggerated. The archeological record gives some clues as well. Still he does have a point that a lot of the areas will be pretty poorly understood. So we know the lands that one day become the Incan Empire had a number of places/countries with some development, but their internal details... Never mind the areas they might have conquered that were less organized. So in that sense, a lot of it will be guess work. And if they want to be fully accurate the biggest guess of them all would be trying to figure out what to make of the Amazon civilization. Which we now know existed and then apparently went under due to Old world diseases, all with out the Europeans pretty much ever noticing it beyond a few initial explorer references.

[@McHobotheBobo]

The Inca also had Quipu record keeping

[@McHobotheBobo]

Also Zapotec and Mixtec had scripts and maybe some others I am less knowledgeable about

[@MrMrblazer1234]

Not even remotely to mention the amount that archaeology has revealed to have been present, pre-contact and at contact.

[@OldSlimJolo]

Yea. In the case of the mayans even, the reason we have such little written stuff is because the conquistadors destroyed literally all literature. I think something like 4 mayan books actually survived colonization. Its more than just circumstance, we don't have history because it was intentionally destroyed, but the society was certainly organized enough for written systems, various societies existing across the aztec/mayan era and a decent bit of known history even then, all things considered.

[@dawidwietrzynski9681]

I don't think it's fair to say it's a "pure speculation", we have archeological research, so we can create let's say "somewhat legit reconstruction" ;)

[@LudietHistoria]

don't get me wrong, I'm not completely dissing what archeological evidence we have or that they existed, I'm just saying that the EXACT BORDERS of those nations are IMPOSSIBLE to know for 1337.

[@yannicklarafunez4768]

@@LudietHistoria When it comes to borders sure there is some speculation. But League of Mayapan that existed from the 11th century right up until 1440, when it comes to the Maya and Nahua we have very good archeological knowledge of these places, some were even more advanced than tribal states we know of in Africa or Oceania. Then there are the various city states around Tenochtitlan and sure there isn't an Aztec triple alliance yet, but regardless we again have relatively advanced city states like Tenochtitlan, Tlacopan and even confederations like the Chalco. In Peru the Ayamara Kingdoms that formed in the 12th century as well as the various other principalities already possessed impressive logistical, administrative and economic capabilities. Sure nothing in comparison to the later Incan Empire, but also far beyond the tribal stage. In essence already by1200 most of the Mesoamerican and Andean civilizations had become somewhat centralized political entities and dismissing the Americas as "only tribes" is highly reductive. And most of these things are backed by archeological studies and aren't just speculation, the speculative aspects is mostly limited to various specifics like exact borders or rulers.

[@Gulitize]

@@LudietHistoria A big problem is most people won't interpret your words that way, but more in a Terra Nullius way. Also the last few years big strides where made on the research of the natives, especially in the amazon.

[@elisfsharri]

​@@LudietHistoria no nation had clear borders at the time. I'd suggest that instead of clear borders to show the area in different types of settlements, depending on their type and size, and their area of control could change depending on different factors like presence of friendly or hostile armies, autonomy level and cultural affiliation, type of terrain, weather, etc. Another thing related to this could be population management and density. As an example, we have two locations, a town and an adjacent castle. During peace time the city has a higher population and provides more wealth, but during war times there is a high chance that the population moves towards the castle thus damaging the economy, increasing population density inside the castle but also (because of higher density) providing more manpower for the armies. The same logic could be used for whole areas, like when you conquer new lands and expel the local population (during or after the peace treaty), thus increasing the population density of the neighbor you took lands from (and their hatred towards you).

[@diegoidepersia]

@@LudietHistoria for 1300s there are actual records from the aztecs, like mentioning tons of the citystates existing at the time and all their wars, though it is true its way worse for the mayas and even more for south america

[@dilmar207]

Actually, there is a lot of information about the nations and cultures of the Andes (the most recient ones, archeological). Just take into account that by the time the invassion of the europeans, Andes (Tawantinsuyo) had a pobs of 10-12 million (spain and england together). After the europeans there was a drop of ~90% of pops (leaving only 1-2 M) and almost a hole erasure of civilization. It will be interesting how the game shows how devastating was the contact with europeans (in terms of disseases and death because of exploitation and killing). At that time of the start date, there were regional kingdoms in the Andes after the fall of the Wari and Tiahuanaco (biggest unificators before Inca)

[@jamesgilhooly7488]

Turn that question around to you, how do you think we make those people’s into a nation on the map considering we don’t know if or where exactly these pops were located and what kind of political entities they had

[@alexk7173]

any places you could point me to where i could learn about the foundings of this society? never heard of them and I like to start from the start of their stories

[@simon133000]

Europeans being europeans

[@Desdichadochado]

@@simon133000yeah, bringing civilisation to savages

[@dilmar207]

@@jamesgilhooly7488 through archeollogy. In the Andes, you can easily find construction that are 500+ year old (oldest one, Caral, (~4000+ years old). Through this types of building, you can say how society was organized, how was its political structure, where was their area of influence, etc). Taking into account that the way of preserving information in the Andes (khipus) was erased by spaniards (they could not understand,thus is made of devil), archeollogy is the one that can bring more and precise information

[@dafyddroff8084]

Ludi it’s just not true that we don’t know anything about Precolumbian Andean and Mesoamerican societies. These people kept detailed records spanning centuries, especially in the Andes. Watch some Ancient Americas damn

[@dafyddroff8084]

Plus Cahokia was still around at EU5 start date. You’re sleeping in the Americas so hard. Native American societies were really complex before European disease caused collapse

[@LudietHistoria]

not what I meant brother, my point was that the EXACT BORDERS of those nations would be impossible to tell. We know from archeological evidence and so the rough areas but no exact borders, so wtv we see in eu5 is made up cause nobody can know what they really had then

[@dafyddroff8084]

@@LudietHistoria understood my guy thank you for clarifying

[@AbsolumentPas-o3h]

The key reason of our lack of information about the Inca or Aztec empires comes down to the reliability and quantity of records, and a principle in the History discipline derived from hard sciences: cross-evidence. For historians to validate an event, it needs to be corroborated by multiple, independent sources. For example, we are confident that figures like Julius Caesar and Jesus existed because they were mentioned by numerous writers from different factions and cultures who had no connection to each other. In contrast, the Inca and Aztec records are far fewer and often stem from single or connected sources, primarily the Spanish. The Incas relied on quipu (knotted strings) for record-keeping, which isn’t a written language and is still not fully deciphered. Most of what we know comes from Spanish accounts, which are quite significant but obviously biased and one sided (ref : cross-eveidence). In short, while we know quite a lot about pre-Columbian civilizations, it pales in comparison to what we know about the Romans, Chinese, or Mughals. The Romans, for instance, kept detailed records, like population censuses, centuries before the Inca or Aztec empires existed, who lacked such structured documentation. Heck, the Aztec where not even aware of how much people they used for their human sacrifices .... the Spanish neither though but it was not really their job to count.

[@tylerphuoc2653]

@@dafyddroff8084 By the 1330s, Cahokia is in major decline and almost abandoned due to their highly destructive monocropping and refusal to use fertilizing or nitrogen-fixing polyculture that would add sustainability to other Mississippian cultures. They had a healthier population during medieval (Crusader Kings) times

[@spacekicker4]

I gotta say fat rip to our computers playing this.

[@Bamm1894]

New engine runs pretty good tho

[@spacekicker4]

@Bamm1894 may the brightest stars light our way. But honestly I'm interested to see how this runs.

Eu4 runs on 1 core. Most of the people today have multiple core cpus. Your PC will be fine.

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

North America also had some quite developed societies such as the "Pueblo culture/civilization" and the "Mississippi civilization". the mayans had a very precise writing system and they were very precise with dates and before the aztecs there were many other powerful civilizations in mesoamerica. we know the names and reigns of many Maya rulers because they wrote those "Maya stelae" which were stone pillars. Teotihuacán was a city in Mesoamerica in 450-650. It had a population of up to 150,000. nor were the Incas the first civilization in the Andes. The Nazca lines were made many centuries before the Incas. and although many civilizations did not have a writing system, archaeological evidence and ruins show these civilizations to be real and quite developed*. bones and stones and ruins don't lie. there were civilizations before the arrival of the Europeans and very early where it was possible.

[@tylerphuoc2653]

Due in part to massive overcultivation of maize monocrop and the then-imminent Little Ice Age, Cahokia was in major decline by the 1330s, if not completely abandoned. Other Mississippian tribes would make better use of the Three Sisters to continually fix nitrogen into the soil as the corn would extract it, continuing their agricultural practices until the advent of Columbian colonization

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

​@@tylerphuoc2653 true. thanks for telling it. the main point of my original comment was that there were civilizations in the Americas before the Aztecs and the Incas, and some very early on, although some of them collapsed. and some of them were quite complicated in their community structures. it's a pity that they are not talked about more often and the fact that they are even belittled sometimes is a great shame. the american continents have a lot of interesting history that is not talked about much. but thanks for the comment and addition to the topic. have a good day!

[@Samthemannation]

@@tylerphuoc2653 It did hit a population low around 1400 but Cahokia did rebound briefly from 1500-1650 not to mention there were plenty of other Mississippian states like Etowah, Cofitachequi, etc.

[@BEPrimAnim]

I think the way they worked with historicity and provinces is amazing and miles and miles ahead of previous EU games. It looks like they took inspiration from EU3 and EU4 mods.

[@Samthemannation]

Yes, I would like that map please! Also, you forgot the Mississippians, Puebloans, and Amazonian Settled Countries for the New World. Not to mention some countries in Oceania like the Maori, Nan Madol, Hawaii, etc.

[@McHobotheBobo]

15:20 Multiple copper and bronze-working cultures were present in the Americas at this time..... namely the Meso-American and Incan civs, but the Creek/Mississippian culture did some bronze working as well. (Reminder, most historic bronze is arsenical bronze, not tin bronze)

[@mark9152]

cant wait for this game. I wanted to try EU4 but it is so old already that there is so much things to learn. Hopefully, as with all paradox games, this will be barebones at launch and will be relatively far easier to learn. Then the following features will trickle in slowly instead of being dropped on my face all at one.

[@peachprincess758]

Great video as always!

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

Not having nations start at war feels kinda weird ngl. I think it could be an interesting start to "inherit" a doomed war and try to get out with loosing as little as possible.

[@EaSkateVideo]

Seeing how extensive this game is gonna be, I fear for the wellbeing of my PC... 😅

[@blue-d4g]

I love how nobody recognizes Luwu

[@bigbo1764]

To say the Americas will be “completely made up” is pretty ridiculous. While our knowledge of the Americas is limited when compared to Europe, the Middle East, and so on, we have vague ideas of what the existing political entities were as well as the major cultures and languages. There will be some creative liberties taken, but paradox does have some historical material to work with.

[@emazio4122]

The learning curve on this especially after a few DLCs will be insane, say goodbye to new players joining in along the way

[@arteliniusz.5872]

I do hope that the game itself won't have a steep learning curve, cause I kinda plan on getting it from day 1, I gave up on trying EU4 due to how massive content wise the game is with its countless DLCs and could be very overwhelming for me and my wallet, so for me EU5 will be a fresh start.

[@jayst]

@@arteliniusz.5872luckily eu4 (along with all DLC) goes on sale with a heavy discount pretty often. I got it and all of the DLC a little over a month ago for a really good price but I am having such a tough time learning how to play. The in game tutorial sucks hard and doesn’t explain so much.

[@creed2552]

Such a big world with so many different nations, let's see how Ludi will look at this and bring a hundred different videos playing as Brandeburg😁

[@QasqaZhol]

Ngl, cant wait for "Skullpture" artmaking with that famous turkomongol from Mogholistan(Chagatay's Khanate).

[@corbied.9343]

you probably need marble in your market too even have that type of artist

[@JimmyJr630]

I’m dreading a lack of unique flavour

[@reheyesd8666]

40 dollars for the unique flavour DLC sir - Paradox

[@darklorty]

That came to me as soon as he showed anatolia. You can bet every single beylik, including the ottomans, will play the same.

[@ahmadother]

@@reheyesd8666 really though, that is the case

[@edwxx20001]

@@darklorty well the mission system introduced in EU4 makes it fairly easy for them to give everyone their "unique" trees. then you just tie events to provances and culture group, but ya most baylik's will be basicly the same, the ottomans will get their own dlc down the line.

[@matthewsarson6934]

Justifiably, i mean the damn Mamluks only got the real mission tree right at the end of EU4.

[@marskavols1073]

i believe Lusatia is a vassal of Bohemia so it is unlikely first target of Brandenburg

[@SireBab]

Magdeburg, or the Pomeranian lands I think are more valid first targets. Magdeburg was a real and good city at the time, and getting coastal access is good. But a lot of this is based on meiou memory

[@marskavols1073]

@@SireBab Yes I can absolutely agree also the house Witlesbach in charge may open expansion into Bavaria by PU

[@yusefbrooks8584]

Lol ik it's a joke, but a grossly inaccurate one. Mali was not a slave empire. There are no exact numbers, but slaves did not work in gold mines. Slaves were primarily used in the army and to help in agriculture, the basis of the Mali Empire. Mansa Musa is only the richest if we take the amount of gold he technically owned and value it in todays currency. He was an Emperor so he exploited people, but just because the country is in Africa doesn't mean everyone was a slave. Also his wealth came from not just gold, but salt, foodstuffs, Iron, textiles, spices, cowries and other goods produced in that area.

[@PersimmonHurmo]

slave trade was the staple of trade with muslim empires and the main commodity of the region at the time, it was africans buying africans often too, muslim empires relied heavily on african slave trade for agricultural manpower all the way to mesopotamia

[@yusefbrooks8584]

@PersimmonHurmo sure what you say is true in general, but not for the Mali Empire specifically. It was not reliant on slavery in the same way Caliphates and other Muslim Empires were. There is a lot of written and archeological evidence about the Mali Empire, more than most African civilizations, and during the 1330s it's like that slave soldiers or bonded soldiers played a minimal role in the army, that the majority were levied in a way similar to feudal states, that slavery was more fluid and also, who were Mali supposed to be trading the thousands and millions of people they would need to trade in order to make enough money to run an empire, with a low population density and a general labor shortage. Also selling enough slaves for it to be the mainstay of the economy across the sahara would be exteemely expensive. Most evidence points to slave trading existing, but playing a smaller role in the economy and usually relegated to prisoners of war. Slaves most certainly almost never worked in goldmines.

[@lamamadelamama5305]

Really hope they add historical artists like Cervantes, Shakespeare, etc

[@edwxx20001]

Shakespeare would be an interesting event chain for england/GB.

[@mikmikmikmijtheshy8577]

First EU5 video: “How to win culture war against China as Ryukyu”

[@juanbarbosasiguenza5883]

Bro, there is information, the fucking aztes and mayas have alphabets that we can read and incas translated the quipus to latin alphabet under spanish dominion. In the andes the chimu empire is in declive, apearing new regional powers as cuzco, while nahuas (the cukture of aztecs, tlaxcaltecans etc) have just arrive froma aztlan as nomadic tribes, acelerating the collapse of the toltecan empire.

[@LudietHistoria]

you are correct. My point was that we don't know the EXACT BORDERS of these empires, but a rough estimation, so there's no way to know what they'd look like

[@juanbarbosasiguenza5883]

@@LudietHistoria yeah, thats mostly true, only a few rivers and mountain ranges

[@manooxi327]

Lundi woke up on the wrong side of the bed today 😅

[@lachtan5583]

im gonna play byzantine empire like 50 milion times

[@guilhermepondian7738]

Hey Ludi in Brasil, at this time, until 1415 (approximately) we have records of an indigenous society that was semi feudal in part of the south coast

[@LudietHistoria]

true bro true, but do we have the EXACT borders? cause that's what I was hinting at, no maps or border descriptions

[@bobfoxwolf]

Imagine extended timeline

[@edwxx20001]

dynamic trade and a workable tech tree, looks like modders are going to love this game.

[@simon133000]

As an historian specialized in indigenous history. The phrase "it's gonna be made up" is the more unrespectful thing peole say about this continent. Lol

[@cadian101st]

There were also state societies in the Mississippi basin, and arguably the American southwest. Also there very much are written sources for Meso-American history??? They had their own writing systems for millenia before European contact. Though many codices were destroyed, epigraphy and other written sources exist

[@crusaderACR]

>millennia Look it up

[@ayenul]

I can imagine an achievement/challenge run now, to have all art in the world in one province/location…

[@CatladyAyaki]

Love you Ludi!!

[@the_feedle]

2:23 More exactly, at this point in history, the Aztecs were still an alliance of 3 cities centered around Tenochtitlan (modern Mexico city), and the Incas are not unified yet. Cuzco, just like in eu4, would still be just a city with a few provinces around it. Also, I'm not an expert of precolombian history, but I think that states in Mesoamerica and in the Andes should actually be countries and not societies, because a lot of archeological evidence shows that they were already very urbanized civilizations (some of them even developped at the same time as ancient Mesopotamia)

[@LauftFafa]

3:36 it wasnt smaller , the cities concerned are all in , Tarifa , al jazeeras and Girbraltar / Jebel tarik morocco also didnt just invade, they were using Gibraltar for yearly invasions of castille for like 30 years already all the way till a certain heir to the throne got killed in battle . the moroccan incursions also pushed all the way to Seville so saying that morocco should have less and that they just landed is dead wrong because morocco would control as i just said bigger areas till seville and the incursions of morocco wouldnt end till the heir of the throne will die thus giving castillians a new chance to attack Tarifa and capturing it

[@MattFerr100]

I do agree that there shouldn't be any war from the start as I think that it's going to be as punishing as EU4 if not even more than that, regarding the Polish Teutonic war there wasn't much fighting going on by 1337 and they could just portray it with something similar to the fall of Maine in Eu4, the same goes for Tlemcen and Nikomedia really

[@danime1941]

man My cpu will melt after one in game month

Nope. Eu4 runs on 1 core. You most probably have 4-6 core cpus.

[@reign4213]

Mansa Musa did not drain his people dry, he was actually a great patron of sciences, built universities and mosques, and was said to be very generous with the riches as a certain Ibn Batutta reports in his Travels

[@yusefbrooks8584]

Yeah it's an uninformed claim, Mansa Musa is credited with the Golden Age of the empire. He built up cities, mosques/universities, and established distant trade relations. The majority of people were local communal farmers, not slaves.

[@nelsontavares6374]

When a guy thinks he knows about world history but he only knows about European history 😂

[@thome7318]

I am totally playing Byzantines exclusively for the first year of eu5 lol. I played them in medieval & medieval 2 total war despite them falling off hard in the late game. Keep the glorious empire alive!!

[@damianperez84]

I did not expect ludi to minimize ancient Africans and Americans in one video lol

[@LudietHistoria]

ayo what u mean I didnt say nothing about africa xD I said australia Kappa

[@Qureas]

Extra territorial countries, international organizations and now Culture war!? Damn. Going to need 2000 hours to get good at this game.

[@joserivera6748]

Ludi , could you please do a china guide of victory 3 , i would LOVE to learn about how to defeated those janckies

[@sergiedo4756]

I still don't understand why the HRE and many regions are so decentralized and atomized and Aragon is a unique administration with only the Kingdom of Mallorca as a Junion party. When it was a union of different countries ghe Kingdom of Valencia and Principality of Valencia

[@Supersheeplordontop]

how is this a full map all of northern russia, north and south america and half of oceania is missing

[@joescrewball]

What is this America you speak of? Just sail from Portugal to sail round to India!

[@aqvamarek5316]

I really will love the comeback of the "CPU" discussion, which new CPU runs the game at best on speed 5 :D

[@Imperial_Legacy]

I think Japan not being split between the clans is weird when the HRE is split between the multiple kingdoms/ duchies/ principalities/ etc.

[@mikespelun]

I hope when Eu5 comes out they will sell it in bundle with new PC. Definitely ask them for recommended PC when they send u beta to test and stream it Ludi

[@matthewsarson6934]

I started EU4 by playing Oda so looking forward to jumping into EU5 with Japan, however they are going to end up playing. Sounds like it was will be very different from the EU4 start.

[@YuzuruHakushaku]

the name Gurgan makes no sense it should have the name of the dynasty (it is the Middle East after all, same reason for Kuristan and Makran), the Bavand shahis, the descendants of Sassanids who ruled over Gurgan from 500s until 1925. also, Jalayerids were not horde, in fact, their system was more like Mamlukes but dynastical (their rule was effectively established with the help of Syrians).

[@AttaBek1422]

This ‘Works of Art’ mechanic should really be in CK3 too

[@UwU_for_Christ]

whby is england's only "artwork" at the beginning of the game 2 things it took from wales and 1 thing it took from scotland?

[@grasstails9737]

british museum

[@UwU_for_Christ]

@@grasstails9737 i dont see how a museum full of artefacts the British saved from certain death or were given as gifts in the 19C and 20C is relevant to 1337

[@NAH6589]

@3:00 1000's of nations!!! yet Ludi still has cursor over Brandenburg. He wants to click it so bad

[@generaldelasmontanas2699]

I find it funny how kitara is just alone.

[@MK-ev5rz]

1:40 We know quite a bit about the Inca. And we also have populations that we can safely consider proto-states in America and Australia. Sedentary monarchies or even republics that in some cases did and in other cases didn't live off of agriculture. This didn't stop Europeans from occupying their lands though, so it shouldn't in EU5. In some cases they even formally declared war by reading a long text in Latin and asking them to convert to Christianity on the spot.

[@LudietHistoria]

My point in video is that any maps drawn are 100% made up because despite what we know, there's no map record, no written record of border distribution in 1337 from the new world. THATS ALL OMG REEEEE cries

[@hoyinching9313]

I am so excited, so beautiful!

[@LudietHistoria]

Me too!!

[@PH-jv4ik]

Sounds like Ludi isn't a fan of Mansu Musa.

[@Hadar1991]

For the Glory just got 1.3 update, 15 tears after the game release. You may want to check it and make video on it. :D

[@flowaeater9489]

9:35 I think there is proof. Supposedly, Mansa Musa went on a pilgrimage to Egypt or Jerusalem I think, he crashed the gold market when he visited.

[@LudietHistoria]

the only written sources we have from that particular time period are 2 arab sources, one of which is from Ibn Khaldun. That being said, he is writing from what he heard from others and even if he crashed the gold market in egypt, it doesn't mean he's the wealthiest person to have ever lived, far from it.

[@willarddavis7938]

mansa musa’s wealth was exagerrated by historians who counted unmined gold he never touched.

[@fmknowledgechannel6458]

Still waiting for Russia part 4 vic 3

[@masonhales]

Knights of Rhodes will be the new byz meme-tier nation

[@anothermilkshake]

What a strange rant about the pre-Columbian history of the Americas. It really just comes off as ignorant racism. Truly bizarre and dissapointing tbh. It really stands in contrast to how he passionately talked about the history of Europe and the Middle East. Particularly when he talked about the sources he had read from the time period. Then two entire continents of people just recieves callous disregard. I never thought Ludi would be so anti-history.

[@catalinmarius3985]

When you said culture war I thought you were going to talk about the Balkans & Carpathia topic :))))))

[@karaltar7914]

Africa getting shafted as usual for Paradox games.

[@Bighawkeye46]

What are the odds that works of art can be captured, stolen, or destroyed by other nations during war or through subterfuge? I think it would make sense if you could steal the Icon or St. Michael and get some benefits for it, whereas you can’t really steal the Sistine Chapel, but an intrigue plot could see it damaged… 🤔

[@McHobotheBobo]

Ludi, there were multiple civs with writing in the Americas just most of their writing (like all but 2 of the Maya codices for example) was burned by Spanish psychopaths. ALSO the Inca+Aymara+Chimu in Latin America would be fairly advanced states. Even in North America the game starts during the Cahokia period and the Mississippians/Creek/Choctaw etc in North America are *100%* at the nation level at this point. If the Iroqouis are around they would also be an important nation, many of their democratic institutions would be repurposed into the US constitution

[@CarlosRios1]

So this is Voltaire's nightmare, but whole world?

[@juanmanuelanzaldotrejo9312]

I would like to say that as far as the Mexica Empire circa de 1350s, you will have the foundation of Tenochtitlán in 1325, so you will have the rise of the empire, fighting against the already stablished Teotihuacan remanents, various other smaller nations in the East and West, including the conflicts against the Mixtec and Zapotec empires. Also te diferente struggles between the Mayans city states. So, maybe not many countries but you would need to have some of them in Mexico and some countries of Central America.

[@dv8tyler692]

Average Great Britain player - "A Museum you say?"

[@alpusyk9461]

Full map please! we neeeed

[@Yes-qj4bi]

When's the Tonga drop bro?

[@mrgopnik5964]

4:06 if they made it historically accurate Brandenburg and Lusatia should be in a personal union at this point

[@tavenstrickert9658]

The Mansa Musa diss was weird. I've seen many estimates that he would be worth something like 400 billion today in current currency. His wealth was so great. He caused an economic crash because he gave too much gold away in Cairo and then on his way back from his Hajj bought the gold back at loss to restabilize the economy. Was he the absolute richest? Probably not. Is he up there in the top five for sure, absolutely. Also complaining about a monarch hoarding money while his people suffer is just complaining about monarchy as an institution, not the particular monarchy of Mali. That's just how monarchy works man throughout most of History, same thing with oligarchy and honestly most systems of government we've ever lived under before the industrial revolution started to equalize quality of life for more people.

[@ThatIcelandicDude]

Eu5 has so much potential and honestly could go down in history as one of the best strategy games ever. But i am very worried. Modern paradox just doesnt have the best track record lately and the last few releases have been rather disappointing to be honest. It would be really easy for them to screw this up. The casualization of recent realeases may have made the games more beginner friendly but they do take alot from the games replayability and run the risk of alienating older players, that along side the fact that modern politics just don't lend themselves well with such a title set in a contreversial part of history. Atleast in my humble opinion.

[@StephanthePelted]

I know this is ahistorical, but I hope Nestorians (players exclusive if need be), can spread influence into SEA and join as a latecomer to the religious struggle party :)

[@PH-jv4ik]

I get cultures outside of Europe having advances which allow them artist outside of Europe but I'm wondering if it's a blanket lock on all nations or will ones closer to say Byzantium or in and around the mediterranean have the same block, doesn't seem to make much sense if they do.

[@BifrostMR]

"Orally passed down and written down several hundred years later" Sounds an awful lot like my favorite historical book about ancient life in the middle east, The Bible.

[@AtheosWrath]

Calling a religious fantasy collection, a historical book is quite funny

[@alexk7173]

@@AtheosWrath cringe buddy, believe what it says or not it is unarguable that the book is the foundation of many many ideas and innovations in Europe, who lead the world for about ~2000 years

[@SireBab]

Poor ludi, he made one comment offhand without explaining and everyone is ganging up on him. What he meant was that while we do have evidence of a lot of stuff about the new world, including some written and archaeological evidence, we lack most of the concrete border and polity information that the old world has. But also, the bible is not really seriously taken as a historical thing anymore by anyone other than biblical scholars.

[@generaldelasmontanas2699]

@@AtheosWrath reddit is that way

[@Al-Basha_]

Most of our campaigns aren't world conquest I think they should make a Napoleonic start date for players who want to blob

[@dabkolay]

omg im looking forward for this game i want ittt

[@wolffrdu6463]

They where writing about what appen before, but the conquistador destroy the said books, it considered as bad as the burning of alexandria in term of history of central america lost

[@sioneris1545]

This looks more like imperator or CK4 than eu5, the bordergore and sheer quantity of nation makes me feel uneasy

[@panasiia2221]

2:14 There’s a lot of written sources especially for other countries in Latin America outside of the Andes and Mesoamérica. I highly recommended doing a bit more research into pre-Columbian history before making such an inaccurate general comment about an entire continent. Love your content by the way, don’t mean to sound rude or come off harsh in any way.

[@joe59788]

I hope they change the work of art icon to something like Venus de Milo or another marble.

[@aramismanzie462]

we cooking the ram with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔊🔊🔊🔊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jakobraahauge7299]

not nations, but stated. There are very important differences between the two - look them up in the dictionary and even wiki! 😄

[@Velesus101]

4:30 Poland was not at war with the Teutonic Order in 1337.

[@mojewjewjew4420]

Im excited to play earlier as The Roman "byzantine" Empire,hopefully they dont botch the country as its goverment form and culture were very unique.

[@MattFerr100]

Drop the map man!

[@ahmadother]

Oh and man I'm hoping for a high quality image for the map currently, cuz I wanna, shesma, *inspect*

[@zondor8123]

Yo I have been saving money in order to get the latest PC specs just for this game 😂 12 core processor is definitely the minimum

[@sullenskulls9709]

Nah. It should be fine on the Steam deck.

[@Capuarox]

If EU5 releases next year, I’ll buy it In 2030, when it Will actually be good

[@muratcayrl9356]

when this game reveals guys? I am looking forward to playing this game so bad xD

[@Cainite]

Knowing PDX there will also be 2465 DLCs

[@rossstewart9475]

16:39 "Stone of Scone" Whilst normally you would read this word that way, for reasons unbeknownst to this Scotsman it's pronounced "scoon", as is the town and abbey in Perthshire from where it gets it's name. It's a lump of red sandstone on which the kings of Scotland were crowned up until Edward I's forces nabbed it in 1296. Since then it was used to crown the English monarch, then latterly the British monarch up to and including the current king of the UK. There's quite the storied history around this otherwise innocuous lump of rock, believed to have been dragged across from Ireland in the 6th century. It's an iconic piece of the mythos surrounding the cultural identities of Scots, English, and British. My personal favourite though is from modern history: In the 1950s a bunch of students broke into Westminster abbey and nicked it back, smuggled it to back to Scotland, broke it in the process, and gave the UK police the runaround for four months before it's whereabouts were discovered due to a grass and it returned to sit under the coronation throne of the British monarch. Having broken it they had a stonemason repair it best as possible, and ever since the question of whether it's still the same stone or not has persisted... It, or possibly it's faux-duplicate, now lives in a museum in Perth - a few miles from where it was taken in 1296 - and is transported to Westminster for any coronation duties.

[@Oosh21]

Stoon of Scoon. It's the Scots accent.

[@Kalenderz35]

Yuan looks really cool on the map

Final Complete Map Does not contain New Zealand and Australia AH YES. Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.

[@MoodleUser]

I think there has got to be a way to implement societies that are not organized like European societies of the time. I am sure there is a way to make resisting colonization and culture, society and environmental management interesting I just think the mechanics that exist for the societies that exist in the game don't really work from a gameplay perspective for those societies

[@billisultan6224]

Chagatai in Eu4: 🥵 Chagatai in EU5: 😎