Final Fantasy IV Mount Ordeal Cecil Becomes a Paladin. In my opinion, one of the most epic moments in any video game.
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@ElectricLegend143 жыл бұрын
Used to hate that he returns to level 1 as a kid, but now I love the symbolism behind it. Start again and live a better life.
@Jormungrandrserpent2 жыл бұрын
Starts at level 1 but more powerful than ever was, symbolic and powerful
@zapcatzach2 жыл бұрын
He's one hell of a level 1!
@bassmandan94844 ай бұрын
He levels up incredibly quickly, and he sure is powerful even as a level 1.
@Juniper_Rose5 жыл бұрын
An important lesson to learn; if you want to truly change, you must accept the consequences of your past. Even if it means doing nothing but taking hits.
@Chris-iw1ep4 жыл бұрын
There's a secondary lesson here as well. Cecil is told that "justice and retribution are but trifling things" as well, indicating that it's not about retribution but stopping Golbez just as a means to stop bad things from happening. In that same moment, Tellah relearns Meteor. Learning Meteor set Tellah on his path of retribution which ultimately leads to his downfall, this solidifying what Kluya was speaking of. It's brilliant and perfectly shows how vengeance can lead to your downfall while at the same time showing that you cannot be passive about evil in the world either. There's always a fine balance to maintain. God I wish they'd remake this but in higher quality, I personally consider it the best out of all the FF series.
@TestHandlePleaseIgnore4 жыл бұрын
Seeking and accepting the truth has always been the primary story of FF4. Tellah was already on the path of retribution before he got Meteor and was only looking for a tool to exact his revenge. Tellah knew what would happen to him if he cast Meteor and wasn't ready to accept the truth and pass away until the burst of light from Cecil's trial gave him the confidence to know that the "kids" he was helping would be able to take over and that he could finally rest. Tellah wanted to go out with one last "bang", which is something a lot of the older characters seem to do now that I think about it. 🧐 And Tellah's quest for retribution did open up the door towards the truth: that Golbez's power over Kain wasn't absolute, which suggested an even more powerful being really pulling the strings which is confirmed after FuSoYa slaps Golbez back to his senses. The tragedy that unfolds before KluYa isn't just the obvious Golbez issue, but of KluYa seeing his own son still a Dark Knight. KluYa wanted Cecil to arrive in different circumstances to pass on his legacy but had to accelerate the process, hence the test. If Cecil truly was at the point where he could fully accept the truth he's known all along, that he is not defined by the armor he wears or the sword he wields, then the burst of power KluYa gives after the fight won't kill him. And that's the real point here: that justice and retribution, fighting for what is deemed "right" by others and for revenge, will never lead Cecil towards the truth of who he is and who he can be and will only further bury the feelings Cecil has. The Mysidian elder even pawned this fools errand off onto Cecil as retribution but quickly accepts the truth when Cecil returns a truly changed person. Even Palom and Porom know what's up after Cecil finishes his trial and attempt to apologize on the spot and reveal they were only originally there to spy on him and report his death back to the elder. On the flip side we have Kain who instead lets his "truth", his unrequited love for Rosa and thus rivalry with Cecil, consume him. While he had all the best intentions in not interfering with Cecil and Rosa's relationship, his truth turned to jealousy and allowed him to be controlled so easily by Golbez/Zemus. FF4 has been my absolute fav FF since I was like 10 and the older and wiser I get the more depth I find in it's storyline.
@jiayouchinese3 жыл бұрын
The moral is to repent of our wicked ways as Jesus went through pains and sorrows to die for us, as He has long been awaiting the day we would turn to him, and our test is if we will be willing to be purified in the fiery furnace in which only gold and silver can survive. Works of wood, hay, and stubble will no longer remain after this temporal realm's time has passed. Man can only achieve works that are filthy rags to a perfect God, but God is satisfied with a humble heart willing to admit wrongdoing and willing to give anything to Him that He requires, with faith in his perfect love.
@robwar19923 жыл бұрын
So the lesson is hit yourself a few times in Court with a golden sword and all is forgivin that will so save me from the chair hell the judge will even let me walk free
@graysonkarter2573 жыл бұрын
i realize it's quite randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new movies online ?
@stepforwardentertainment7154 жыл бұрын
This moment was one of the greatest moments ever experienced in a video game. The chance to become more than what you or others perceived you to be, to cast aside darkness and embrace light..
@HenriqueRJchiki4 жыл бұрын
This is so funny because in Shadowbringers you become the Warrior of Darkness to fight back the tyranny of light.
@jacks13683 жыл бұрын
@@HenriqueRJchiki And then Endwalker goes all-in on FF4 imagery, even going from DRK to PLD as the box art job.
@shepherdstar142 жыл бұрын
This is a moment I hope gets alluded to in Endwalker
@leiferikson10662 жыл бұрын
Yeah... That's never been done before...
@blizzardhawk1 Жыл бұрын
Took the words from my mouth... When I played when I was younger I found that FF IV is still in my heart even after more than 30 years.
@kyriellepunongbayan69093 жыл бұрын
cecil's story helped me overcome depression believe it or not
@river92893 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Hope your doing better!
@strangehominid2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dr.zither2 жыл бұрын
Me as well
@matthewrileymcleanwilkinson9 ай бұрын
Same here brother. Cecil is a Legend. Helped to inspire me since my early youth, and even now, at 34, lends me encouragement to press on through the darkness ahead. Lots of themes of Truth and Light, and Love in this tale. And amidst all of those virtues, Forgiveness. Of other's and one's self.
@Ryotaiku2 жыл бұрын
Even cooler: In-game every enemy you come across leading to this point has high resistance to darkness, so Palom & Porom essentially carry you here. Then you become a paladin, and going down the mountain all of those same enemies are weak to holy skills.
@tolerantxgaming45302 жыл бұрын
That is a wonderful example of awesome game design. Nicely worded.
@Lokipower Жыл бұрын
Wow I never noticed that. Such a cool detail! Really what separates video games from other art forms as a story telling medium.
@mrsora164 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite moments from ff4
@andreabritton74153 жыл бұрын
Honestly one of my favorite moments in all gaming. I remember being a kid and being like HOLY SHIT I AM FIGHTING MYSELF. You play someone who has become their greatest enemy and you must deal yourself a great pain to earn your right to be the hero of the story.
@Powerincarnate.2 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie; when I first played this oh so many years ago, I was swinging away. The Dark Knight in me didn't want to leave.
@BocchiTheMeltDown4 жыл бұрын
When Cecil becomes a paladin, his dark equipment will be lost. If you want to keep his dark equipment, remove all equipment before becoming paladin.
@darkanimecommandersoto99923 жыл бұрын
And then he starts again at level 1, but when you go back down the mountain again, you gain like 12 levels.
@t.adamcollins21623 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to keep it? He can't use it.
@RLRPhotography3 жыл бұрын
When I played this almost 30 years ago now on my second or later play through, I grinded to level 45. My first grind experience. Made everything easier and loved that over powering feeling. At this scene when I first saw it, I felt those tingles all over my head and made me come back to FF again and again for all these years. Last time I felt those tingles was from those Origa tracks from FFXIII-2. Haven’t played FFXV yet though.
@thefleepo80133 жыл бұрын
@@t.adamcollins2162 You can sell it, no?
@jatabo15742 жыл бұрын
@@t.adamcollins2162 If you´re playing with an NDS emulator, you can hack a playable version of Golbez into your party that can use that gear. Even with the low Attack compared to later-in-the-game weapons, Deathbringer can still OHKO many enemies. Pretty niche use, but hey, at least it´s better than nothing.
@civilwildman Жыл бұрын
What I find ironic now is that Yuri Lowenthal (the voice of Cecil) has recently gone on to voice He-Man. This transformation reminds me of how Prince Adam becomes He-Man.
@CrasherX20003 жыл бұрын
I love how the Red Wings theme plays over Cecil’s triumph
@Knelltroia2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I played this on GameBoy when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade. I'm 21 years old now, yet Final Fantasy 4 is still engraved within me. It's a part of who I am right now and I'm forever thankful for it.
@ss2k79 ай бұрын
I played the original in 1991, and let me tell you, the learning never ends.
@nmarrs85393 жыл бұрын
Become a paladin!
@ChaotixLau3 жыл бұрын
nah thanks, i'm fine just let me through
@BirdOfTheEnd3 жыл бұрын
You're really sucky as a Dark Knight.
@deoidrelewiszx75543 жыл бұрын
Alot of people of culture
@airiyuuki3 жыл бұрын
- "You suck !" = "You are douchebag"
@blazi22932 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I thougt you had to beat the Dark Knight. I mean, Cecil literally points his sword at him. But not fighting him makes sense. Cecil can't beat the Dark Knight: he committed terrible sins and must acknowledge his past. Even though he became a paladin, he will always be the dark knight Even if these DS graphics don't look great, it's a really strong scene
@Lonewulf321 Жыл бұрын
Idk, they may be a little block but they hold up well and have a lot of charm. I think it has a timeless look tbh
@xanthippus319010 ай бұрын
He isn't the dark knight
@AdeptKing5 жыл бұрын
I know this is already a remake but if they did this game with something like FF15 level graphics that would be really nice.
@base213 жыл бұрын
AdeptKing not really
@aagh87143 жыл бұрын
@@base21 yeah it would
@base213 жыл бұрын
@@aagh8714 naw
@senatorsparky3 жыл бұрын
Or just do the PSP graphics as a clean-up of the original, this version has NOT aged well
@chocobokoay31943 ай бұрын
Left-Hand. Hereditary's Sacred Fire.⚜️
@12397bmw4 жыл бұрын
I know they’ve made several remakes of final fantasy 4 but I hope that they make one for the switch I’m not asking for a 100% new remake just up the graphics and sell it on the eshop
@tolerantxgaming45303 жыл бұрын
Ditto to this and Dragon Quest 4.. those are my dream games. :)
@gbaboy77753 жыл бұрын
@@tolerantxgaming4530 oh hell yes FF4 3D and DQ4 remake would be amazing on Switch. Oh great Nintendo! Answer our prayers in this time of uncertainty! Grant is the Light of FF4 3D and the DQ4 Remake on Switch!
@penndragon222 жыл бұрын
"In my opinion, one of the most epic moments in any video game." Fact. It is representation of The human world religion. Amazing that we were gifted this as children. Though not surprising. We needed to be seeded.
@nv_chino Жыл бұрын
Only when you fully conquer the darkness is when you truly become a Paladin. There is no waiting because the wait is over.
@inesatt13132 жыл бұрын
He is like Riku and that's why I love him I wish he met Sora
@kusanag18203 жыл бұрын
Im having goosebumps hearing those Red Wings theme.
@chocobokoay31947 ай бұрын
Hallowed Blade. O; Hallowed Light.⚜️
@xrunner55 Жыл бұрын
I prolonged this fight just to hear the song. I guess the journey is part of the destination.
@alphafox91623 жыл бұрын
I remember beating this in the 90s as a 10-year old lol... debating if I should beat it again with the new 3d graphics
@amaris273 жыл бұрын
I seriously recommend this version of the game. Voice acting and music are great. And still so true to the original
@DefaultDerrick Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest spiritual metaphors of all video game history.
@duannekhristopermangampat96083 жыл бұрын
That voice it must be Kluya the Cecil's Father
@VanDaRifleman2 жыл бұрын
IIRC It's not explicitly stated, but it's very heavily implied that the voice is KluYa's, and I agree.
@azurecorviknight4189 Жыл бұрын
Final fantasy 4 PR update, when a event that has a party member leaving you behind with the armor on will be put back into your Inventory automatically with the words "The gear has been unequipped & put in the Inventory."
@bclap06able7 ай бұрын
This moment was my favorite moment in gaming experiencing.... playing it when it was still ff2 lol
@vintage_life3 жыл бұрын
The moment where he went "magical girl" on us
@diegomayz8503 Жыл бұрын
I felt like a complete moron when I forgot to strip Cecil from all his dark equipment.
@skycptn88192 жыл бұрын
I still love the music!
@balbarith453 ай бұрын
Don't forget to have Cecils new equipment ready to go after the transformation. You can buy it from the armor shop in Mysidia before making the trek to Mt. Ordeals. After you leave the shrine is when you'll be given a test run as a paladin.
@chocobokoay3194 Жыл бұрын
Holy Mitre.⭐⚜⭐🏰
@gerardgarnett38482 жыл бұрын
Cecil Harvey As Joshua Navarette
@charlespage86922 жыл бұрын
Cecil becomes the Perfect Hero.
@chocobokoay31947 ай бұрын
Cecil Cecilia Celyn the Queen.
@civilwildman5 жыл бұрын
So in this case, KluYa takes on a role similar to Jor-El from DC Comics.
@fernandohudson13 жыл бұрын
*Era necessário nascer de novo, destruir o Cavaleiro das trevas e recomeçar de novo.*
@matheustoledo9483 жыл бұрын
Msm que signifique n lutar e só levar dano
@fernandohudson12 жыл бұрын
@@matheustoledo948 sim ele ganha só no psicólogico, mas tem como lutar sim
@Blastimal3 жыл бұрын
first time seeing this I thought Cecil was female upon removing the helm
@makunouchiippo8163 жыл бұрын
lol
@unknownuser49425 күн бұрын
Same, I also thought luneth from ff3 was a girl.
@kokochislibrary95413 жыл бұрын
I still dont understand, why didnt that voice tell cecil that golbez is his brother?
@deoidrelewiszx75543 жыл бұрын
Yeah good point 🤔
@javiergomezc.6783 жыл бұрын
He was vanishing so i guess he was in a hurry an forgot to say
@JuanPerez-mt1ce3 жыл бұрын
Plot
@johnwalls98623 жыл бұрын
If he could do it !!!
@chocobokoay3194 Жыл бұрын
Catherine I.👑
@pwnorbepwned2 жыл бұрын
Such a good game. Imagine if this game’s plot was like FFXII with Vaan. You’d have the game following Palom’s perspective even though Cecil is still the main character. He’d have 9x the dialogue in this scene, with him giving a pep talk to Cecil that the game implies he wouldn’t have accepted the trial without. And when the trial actually begins, you bet Cecil would invite Protagonist Palom to back him up in his duel with his dark knight self.
@TooFewSecrets Жыл бұрын
...i'm not sure if you're saying that would be better or way worse
@miguelcondadoolivar51494 ай бұрын
To be fair, Vaan didn't have that much dialogue. In fact, one of his main problems was his lack of involvement in the story, only interrupting in some cutscenes to get one or two lines in (which villains will immediately ignore as they focus on actually important characters, mainly Ashe and Basch).
@aztecwarrior95112 ай бұрын
Its like becoming a born again Christian
@90sretrodadbiblestudy928 ай бұрын
This has a certain feel to it as a christian, this always brings tears to my eyes.
@jacobmartinelli7496 Жыл бұрын
Energy weapons galore (Ball lightning, besides mass extinction event/ufo)(infinite weapon zombies style no less.)
@chocobokoay31943 жыл бұрын
Wraith's Wisp.🌟🇲🇾🌟🔥🇨🇳🔥
@Kn1ght_Edits Жыл бұрын
Which design of cecil kain and Golbez is very better A Dark like past or Light like Future (Without Dark armor)
@devilwhonos10 ай бұрын
Dark knight to white pladin
@chocobokoay31943 жыл бұрын
Ritual Spell.🌠🌠🇲🇾🌠🌠🏆⚡🇮🇹🦅
@SecondChallenge11 ай бұрын
Você tem ele Cecil
@robwar19923 жыл бұрын
Yeah he commits tons of murder but a golden sword and a bunch of light is all forgiven
@WhiteDarkness31134 жыл бұрын
Incert persona 4 facing myself theme
@smiffwilm2 жыл бұрын
.....
@robwar19923 жыл бұрын
The 1 thumbs down wanted to be emo
@Lonewulf321 Жыл бұрын
The remake was really good in some ways
@tolerantxgaming4530 Жыл бұрын
I agree completely. not a remake fan, but the cutscenes make it entertaining.
@papamidnight4045 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the soundtrack?
@verdaodamassa2 жыл бұрын
I'm need a 3D remake of FFV, SQUARE ENIX PLEASE!
@knightghost6147 Жыл бұрын
I same, because is very easy this Models 2D That 3D.
@chocobokoay31943 жыл бұрын
The Imperial's Clothes. 🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🌠🌠🇲🇾🏆⚡🇻🇦🇯🇵🇻🇦
@chocobokoay31948 ай бұрын
郭展群。⚜️ Roger Koay Chan Khoon.⚜️
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
Shield; is Castle.🏰 ⭐🇲🇾⭐ My; Templar's Shield(s).
@duannekhristopermangampat96083 жыл бұрын
So he becomes paladin to Defeat his own Brother because the Dark Knight's Sword doesn't harm on his Brother
@smokenjoeful2 ай бұрын
im laughing at the ridiculous music
@shawnreedKAG17 Жыл бұрын
☯️
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
O; Knightlyhood; Ankh.🌟🇲🇾📜🇲🇾📜🕊️
@verdaodamassa3 жыл бұрын
The FFIV DS remake edition is very good, but I prefer the PSP remaster version why to be play a interlude story and The After Years togheter in seems game... THANKS SQUARE ENIX!
@sterlingwirth79313 жыл бұрын
Is this game hard? Some of the older ffs are pretty hard
@tolerantxgaming45303 жыл бұрын
For some, it may be. But for me, it was the first SNES game I ever completed. I was 13. I don't recommend this being someone's first rpg. The learning curve is steep
@Avenus1123 жыл бұрын
It's one of the harder yeah. FF6 is a better starting point.
@bloopertanooki4153 жыл бұрын
Among Final Fantasy entries, it's challenging. As some said, VI and VII are better starting points. As a version of FFIV, the DS version is the hardest of them all. The original SNES and PSP versions are much more manageable.
@aagh87143 жыл бұрын
DS/Hard mode FF4 is like the hardest FF in regular gameplay
@thefleepo80133 жыл бұрын
The fact that you could control 5 characters at once made the combat a bit harder to control, especially with the characters changing often and you having to change your gameplay style
why did he defend..i never played the 3d version but i always had to beat the hell out of the dark version and use potions to keep going?..
@locke1033 жыл бұрын
you clearly missed the point of the battle.
@dragonfable663 жыл бұрын
Just guard. You should know how darkness/souleater works at this point
@HyperNova1373 жыл бұрын
And you actually won by fighting him? I didn't even think that was possible... Because that would bypass the entire meaning of the scene...
@halronius3 жыл бұрын
@@HyperNova137 thats how i always did it. i guess it doesnt matter if u attack or not then, cuz eventually u win? i just kept attacking and using potions
@tolerantxgaming45303 жыл бұрын
@@halronius I've attacked him out of fun and died horribly except times I've used cheats. You need to defend yourself. It's as many have said, you face the darkness within and don't fight it, because you have to acknowledge your own past darkness. It is a part of who you were, and refuse to use it's base closed fist ways.
@geogreysword Жыл бұрын
Tbh I like dark knight Cecil better
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
Tellah; is: Stella. Roger Koay Chan Khoon; 郭展群。 Stella Roger Koay Chan Khoon.🌟🇲🇾🌟💃🔥🇨🇳🔥💃🙋
@nOT_sURE083 жыл бұрын
Eh. Better on SNES.
@tolerantxgaming45303 жыл бұрын
totally agree.
@bootstrapphoenix64563 жыл бұрын
The PS1 version of the games has rendered cut scenes other than that it's the same thing as the SNES. Probably has added content too now that I think about it.
@clinteastwood68752 жыл бұрын
The limits of the SNES added to the mystique. Show...don't tell.
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
Celebrant's Mitre. I; am the behalf of; myself.🏆⏳⌛🌠🇲🇾🌠🔥🇨🇳🔥🎂🧙🎂
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
O; Lohengrin. Is; a Broadsword. Amen.🇲🇾🌟🇲🇾😍🎁😍📜
@chocobokoay31942 жыл бұрын
Feudalism(elle).🌟🇲🇾🌟📜
@joeywomer2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. The NDS didn't do this game justice.
@villager98743 жыл бұрын
Cecil can win by doing nothing
@barman11763 жыл бұрын
The original FFIV version of this is so much more powerful to me. This version for FFVII fans just makes me cringe..
@jonespianist31893 жыл бұрын
I thought FFVII didn't have voice acting?
@jiayouchinese4 жыл бұрын
This is what it is like to be born again. When you accept Christ, you let go of your dagger of sin. You must pledge yourself to Christ as your LORD, and repent of the sins that once held you down.
@sodden7793 жыл бұрын
Can you not?
@jiayouchinese3 жыл бұрын
@@sodden779 No, Christ is the only way. You must repent of your sins and make Jesus Lord to be saved.
@WrayMaxwellVO3 жыл бұрын
He's not wrong in the context this was really meant to be. It's why Kain is actually named from Cain, the brother who betrayed his brother Abel, and his final weapon is The Abel Lance. Preaching to those aside from the comment above but just saying Final Fantasy takes alot of context from the bible.
@ProsecutorValentine3 жыл бұрын
@@jiayouchinese I think he means tone down the cult-following tone you have going on. Still though, i can definitely see Square taking inspiration from the Bibble as well in their writing.
@WrayMaxwellVO3 жыл бұрын
@@ProsecutorValentine yeah most definitely, just look at everything. FF4 with the tower of babel, the Big Whale ship like an Ark, Kefka in ff6 trying to become a god, Sephiroth the One Winged Angel. Japanese culture in general with RPGs and anime heavily base things off the bible, but yeah this goes without saying with the whole preaching above like we're in church lol.
@nnnop97993 жыл бұрын
After this moment , FF4 became a generic and mediocre RPG. Sumo and Bartz were a better MC tho
@aagh87143 жыл бұрын
fuckin BARTZ?
@maelstromexceptions59843 жыл бұрын
FFIV is still best rpg in my book, since the Good ol' Apple ][ e age. But I prefer the 2d sprite version then the 3d any day.
@frozendevil95493 жыл бұрын
Criticizing a game for being generic and mediocre while praising FF5, lmaoo
@nnnop97993 жыл бұрын
@@frozendevil9549 FFV never tried to be more than a generic rpg with a great job system. Sorry if you didn't understand my comment, also I only said that bartz is a better mc than cecil, I never compared FF 4 and 5 stories.
@frozendevil95493 жыл бұрын
@@nnnop9799 ok? That’s not an excuse like it makes the game any better. If everything about the game besides the combat is bad because they didn’t try then oh well, they should’ve tried. The game is abysmally mediocre as a result, much more so than 4. And I never said you compared the stories... if you’re praising Bartz, a character in FF5, then you’re praising FF5.
@willardfasto44943 жыл бұрын
They remake the trash that is ff7 yet leave truly amazing games to be left on portable systems.
@tr1clops383 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you have to bash FF7 just to complement FF4. Both are phenomenonal games in their own right. If anything, I'd argue that the only reason one is more popular than the other is just the time they came out.
@unknownuser49425 күн бұрын
Why does ff fans needs to bash other games just make their game superior.