Final Machining & Installing a Daisy Wheel on a FAMCO 5C Arbor Press

When I got my FAMCO 5C Arbor Press it was missing the daisy wheel or bolster plate. I had a friend cut one out with a CNC Flame Cutting machine according to the original design. In this video, we will be doing a few machining operations to it - facing both sides flat, drilling a bore in the center, and turning a pin for it to pivot on. Finally, we install it on the arbor press.
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[@slipshodaverage844]

Thank you. I just picked up a Famco 3 today, and have been watching every video I can find on cleaning and restoring an arbor press.

[@douglasblacke9360]

Hi Keith. I discovered your videos a week or two ago and have enjoyed them immensely! Your patient explanations and evident depth of experience makes viewing these a fun educational experience - please keep them coming. I have some experience in cabinetry and have always been curious about the parallels to machining. And before I forget: If you receive negative responses from some, just ignore it - it's not worth spending the time to think about.

[@mmd1957]

I have no knowledge or experience of machine work or metal work but am fascinated watching your videos and seeing the processes used to work metal into usable forms. Thank you for posting these and for the clear explanations you give, they enable people like me to understand what’s going on. Much appreciated, thanks. Mike from the UK.

[@mattymcsplatty5440]

same here, hes great

[@dananelson479]

I like these jobs. Appreciate the viewer who cut that up for you. Thanks for sharing.

[@benhancock1408]

I had to chuckle at your "round to it" statement. My Dad always carried a small, round piece of wood in his pocket. It was about the size of a quarter. On it were the letters TUIT. Anytime someone would say they'd do something when they "get a round to it", he would hand them that piece of wood.

[@petergregory5286]

Ben, When I was younger, just a few years ago a DJ on BBC Radio used to hand out Round2it’s to wives who wrote in with a story about how long their husband had taken to do a particular job around the house. There were some interesting stories and quite a few embarrassed husbands. Regards

[@bigragu6828]

Ben Hancock I once had a novelty wooden circle that “tuit” was etched on it. It had a saying that went something like, “Now you can start, at last you can do it, you’ve finally gotten a Round Tuit”

[@raincoast2396]

Another great old machine rescued from deaths (scrap) door. Thank you Keith.

[@workaholic5318]

Hmm, you have a perfectly good belt grinder if you are worried about having the flame cut finish on the outside. Axle pin in the center and the belt grinder and you are golden.

[@ga5743]

Love you and A-Bomb’s videos. Keep up the good job of educating us.

[@6NBERLS]

You have to be one of the most prolific authors on KZbin. Well done.

[@gatica1978]

Looks good, I always enjoy seeing the completed restorations you do.

[@viboquet]

Hi Keith Rucker, you've done a great job of restoring this press and other tools and I'm still learning by watching your videos. Thank you and A +

[@surlyogre1476]

I'm _so_ glad you found your round TUIT!

[@railfan439]

Keith, sorry I missed the Bar-Z bash this weekend. Sharing good fortune is always good. Sharing the flu is always bad. Hope you had a good time. Jon

[@rjkejk57]

Good job to finish up by installing the Daisywheel. Being a retired Engineer, my only suggestion which is that I would have added a retaining clip for a snap ring or a hole in the bottom of the pin so once installed the daisy wheel will never accidentally come off in an a unforeseen instance which I know is probably a 99.99% chance of occurrence! However just making this comment so that other viewers may have a totally different application for a project that has a higher probability of having a part from falling off, and I always think safety for both the operator and the care of the machine! Again great video and enjoyed the seeing the completion of the agh or press which should last for generations of machinist just to put to good use.

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Keith, Nice to see the Monarch in action earning it's keep...turned out great!

[@optimistichorizon]

*Nice work*

[@robertgiovannucci7144]

Very nice! Neat and simple, with an end result fully functional. Hey Keith, was good seeing you again at the Bash! Hope your trip home was good, and you're back in the groove. Looking forward to upcoming projects! Bob G...the flag guy.

[@shortribslongbow5312]

Very nice job! Thanks for sharing.

[@nathanhershey7897]

I've learned everything I know from you and abom79 so way more than I could ever remember but I made a daisy wheel a month ago for my press. I'm a laser operator at a fab shop, I laser cut 2 pieces of 1" plate, beveled and welded mine together. Did the same thing as you, faced it and drilled my center hole. Then for the od I turned a piece of stock , drill and taped it. Then used a bolt to attach the wheel to the newly made arbor. It was scary (because of the weld being inconsistent) but I turned the od using that method. I'm not sure how "accurate" that method was but it looks great and was easy! Just my 2 cents of that water cut / plasma cut edge bothers you! Always happy to see one of your videos pop up :D

[@davidmotoman4956]

Thanks for sharing Keith, Love your Work mate. Dave from Australia

[@blackweed3078]

Very interesting have never quite seen anything quite like this can't wait to see what you do next

[@silvergoldking]

Great job like always. And it was a pleasure meeting you at the Bar Z Bash .

[@francoisfouche2568]

Substantial piece of metal you have there, no way you will ever bend or wear it out !! I was a little surprised you did not use that "new" belt grinder to pretty up the outside .... Love your channel!!

[@JB-kw4ug]

Nice video as always. Thanks, JB San Diego

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Nice work Keith thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺

[@joycemiller4716]

Love your videos from England

[@bobuk5722]

Hmm, That's an interrupted cut. I think I'd have put a centre in that very quickly and chamfered off the last bit off lathe. And in answer to a response below to another UK viewer who also raised concerns - a four jaw would have held this better, and even if Keith does n't have one why oh why take unnecessary risks? I don't want Keith getting damaged, although I did notice that he stepped smartly out of the way to start with .... We love you Keith, do take care! BobUK

[@Jim-ie6uf]

Nice work!

[@MaturePatriot]

Nice work by the subscriber on the wheel. Finishing the small things always seems to take the most time. LOL I will be on the outlook for one of those presses. Great video.

[@schwartzenheimer1]

Nice job!

[@fasousa4798]

4 independent jaw chuck would center that plate for the outer diameter cut. I would never have drilled that center hole through there was no need to for a perfect surface. A simple blind hole to insert the pin would be cleaner in my opinion

[@paulcopeland9035]

A blind hole is the work of the devil.

[@josephmagedanz4070]

That came out very nice. Looks good and works good, too...what else could you want? Thanks for sharing, Keith.

[@davidmclean5067]

The finish on the outside of this is quite good as-is. This is a nice looking machine now.

[@63256325N]

Thanks for the video. 👍

[@darkhorsegarage9623]

Very nice job on the restoration. Fun to watch. I would paint the flame cut sides grey to match the casting. But it looks greet as is.

[@nevetslleksah]

Looks good. I’d paint the outside of the daisy wheel gray to match the press. Thanks for making the video.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing.

[@workwillfreeyou]

Beautiful press!

[@2dividedby3equals666]

I never thought much of abor presses, they always seemed so uninteresting to me. But the moment I saw your Famco and Booth's Dake it suddenly became clear that I had to have one!

[@James-fs4rn]

👍looks great! I have a Royersford no 3 1/2R in need of the one too. Don't have any dimensions though. Thanks!

[@JRD77VET]

I'll say it outloud ( well, write it ), you checked hole size with gage pins but used dial calipers instead of a micrometer for size? ( Jeff the OCD machinist ). You can hold it in a four jaw chuck even with the one narrow slot. Just remove that jaw and bottom out the screw in the master. That would allow you to hold it securely for the OD turning. Jeff , machinist for the past 40 years

[@dirk4926]

Looks as good as OEM

[@JamesDedmon]

Looking good

[@rgmoore]

Nice easy one but still good material for a video. Thanks

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Keith, great at result with the daisy wheel, I really thought the drill would of been oversized more then 3 thou considering no pilot hole but this shows when you have a good grind you get great results, I best start practicing a little more, thanks for sharing Keith, very enjoyable watching, ATB Matty

[@TheTarrMan]

You should watch your tool drag. It probably doesn't matter for something like this. Other than that nice job. So nice to see this old equipment put back in service.

[@SuperAWaC]

he backed out when it mattered

[@gregfeneis609]

Nice work, Keith. I'm im-pressed

[@brucet9799]

KZbin search "Southern Pacific #18 suffers shattered piston on the Durango and Silverton" Heath Wells Amazing footage capturing the moment it occurred (just after 35:17) and being able to view the carnage! (37:55) Great post! 38:00 a must see Keith!

[@precisionmachineshed]

I need to make one of these for my Famco 3 1/2 C.

[@bcbloc02]

Sure is a nice press!

[@TangentJim]

Keith -- I'm going to tell you something that you already know . A straight knurl would expand the pin to where you want it.

[@theOriginalskillr]

watching that thing in the lathe is a pucker factor of 5 for me

[@royreynolds108]

Yaaa! Go. Good deal.

[@8056443232]

I half expected you to paint the very outside diameter the same grey as the machine - or at least oil it up to prevent flash rusting. Then it dawned on me: you slathered a generous layer of cutting oil as your were facing it. Should be fine! Thanks for the vid.

[@shadowdog500]

I hit my unpainted surfaces on my drill press, arbor press, and vise with Johnson paste wax every few months to keep them from rusting. I imagine that he does something similar. Chris

[@tomk3732]

Do the outside as well - somewhat lots of work but could be an idea for a video - just mount the whole thing on a plate using bolting kit. You can use the center hole you have to help a lot with the alignment. The steel is probably either 4140 or 4330. The second one is so hard annealed that you can barely tap it.

[@johncochran8497]

Seems to me that you could hold the daisy wheel in a 4 jaw chuck so you can turn the outside diameter.

[@crystaldragon141]

You'd need a really narrow jaw on at least to of the slots.

[@shadowdog500]

Landon Harris making a custom thin jaw would be a neat video. The other thing he could do is to mount it on a faceplate with a slight standoff to turn the outside. I think it is fine as-is, but either one would make a neat video. Chris

[@crystaldragon141]

Yeah I was thinking the same

[@brainsironically]

The two best things about the Internet: 1) Being able to collaborate with people all over the planet. Keith: I need one of these. Viewer 1: I have drawings and specs! Viewer 2: I can make it from drawings and specs! How cool is that? and of course, 2) Cat videos! lol

[@PeterWMeek]

You said you'd do it when you got a Round Tuit. I believe that is the first Notched Round Tuit I've seen.

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Good job, enjoyed watching. However, how about making the pin dia a tad more larger and shrinking it with ice to fit more tightly. Also a dabbing of grease for the pin and its hole - two moving parts.

[@jacilynns6330]

not to nit pick Keith but in video when it was mounted on the lathe you can see that the two faces are not parallel. You may be further off to face one side on surface grinder to get them parallel. The slight taper could cause problems in future.

[@bgcal50cal]

Loctite 260 would hold pin forever. 4 Jaw chuck much safer. Great job!

[@ront8270]

Just need to find a famco 5c at a good price now

[@pattyliterati164]

Thanks for the great videos on the Famco 5C press. I also have a Famco 5C that I bought without the daisy wheel. Can you tell me the dimensions of the daisy wheel you made so that I can do the same?

[@terrybrower3437]

I was never clear on some lathe terminology. When you say I'll take another 10 thou, are you referring to depth of cut thereby reducing the diameter by 20 thou? Or are you referring to reducing the diameter by 10 thou? Thanks for the great videos.

[@bigragu6828]

Just curious. Ever have issues with the cutting bit jumping the gap on something like that. I know there were no issues today, but do you only cut minimal depth or can you go stronger?

[@AerialLensVideo]

Thanks for the video. Call me dumb. What are the bolster plate slots used FOR? Sure, the plate itself is a nice solid backing for squishing or punching something, but I cannot find a demo anywhere showing the uses of the different sized slots. Bearings?

[@binderstem31]

Great video. I have the same press and it is missing it’s daisy wheel. This video will be a big help. Where can I find the dimensions for the wheel!

[@anthonymontgomery4861]

Round tuit's are hard to come by.

[@whitehoose]

So that's how you get a round tuit.

[@tedmiles2110]

Did you ever make a proper handle for your press? I am sure it will be very useful!

[@chrisgedrim]

I’m not a machinist, but could you not have turned the OD by using a four jaw to grip each of the cutouts and indicating on the pin bore?

[@dougborrett3566]

Would it not be possible to 4 jaw it in the notches to turn the outside nice and clean.

[@douglaspierce316]

thanks for cranking them out. your list must be getting a little shorter. you need to get band saw to fix up like a really old big one. thanks

[@mechanoman01]

Keith has one see “ New” Machine Acquisition: DoAll V-26 Vertical Contour Machine (Band Saw)

[@josephwilson6651]

I know it is most likely not needed but would it ever receive scraping just for appearance's sake? maybe someone could use it for practice during one of the scraping classes

[@WatchWesWork]

Every daisy wheel I ever saw just had a regular roll pin in the center.

[@patballman]

How about gripping with 4 jaw to face rim of daisy wheel.

[@rennkafer13]

A little Loctite stud/bearing mount would have solved that loose fit issue more than adequately for the intended use.

[@paulcopeland9035]

There is no "loose fit issue".

[@rennkafer13]

Why did he have to make an oversized pin then?

[@paulcopeland9035]

@@rennkafer13... He had to make a pin anyway, so he made it to fit and press in like he wanted..Depending on the grind, a drill bit will normally cut larger than the listed size. His bit cut .002 over which is very good..

[@rennkafer13]

@@paulcopeland9035 which is why you don't do precision fits with a drill bit.

[@paulcopeland9035]

@@rennkafer13 ..It was not a precision fit. He was not machining a hole to fit a pin. He had to make a pin, so he used a drill bit which had clearance on the machine table and made a pin to fit. The "precision" was in his machining the pin to create a press fit, of which he did a fine job.

[@KG-yn9qi]

Niceseeing you at the bash sorry for upsetting you on the round up question .

[@littleworkshopofhorrors2395]

Kyle Greer tell us more please.

[@KG-yn9qi]

@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 sorry ??? What ???

[@littleworkshopofhorrors2395]

Kyle Greer just curious how you upset such a mild mannerd chap

[@KG-yn9qi]

@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395it was on a subject where its stupid people that don't know what their talking about and causing major problems all because they want the give me something for nothing attitude, he and I deal with its all political BS.

[@littleworkshopofhorrors2395]

Kyle Greer just wondered, thanks for clarifying

[@donpollard9460]

14:48 - just like a bought one ... or better!

[@currentbatches6205]

8:09 - What deburring tool?

[@yqwgjsg]

Why do people even watch your videos just to give a thumbs down? Are they hostages being forced to watch machining videos?

[@Wulfmoon9]

Hammer0f Thor some people are just odd.

[@SamaritanElad]

Good question. I enjoyed it. Wished I had a lathe like this. Nice work :-)

[@rbmgt81]

It is really bizarre that anyone could give a thumbs down for this or for that matter just about all of Keith's content …. Always good place to learn something from a humble individual …..

[@clydecessna737]

I, for one, am Mr Rucker's prisoner.

[@BigRalphSmith]

Here's the reasons I can come up with: 1) Personal dislike or hatred. It's not about the video content, it's some personal dislike of Keith for some reason. 2) Competition. Someone feels they are "competing" against Keith for video editing, design, content, machining ability, number of views, total subs, number of likes, etc. 3) Troll. Someone has a juvenile need to be negative for personal emotional or psychological reasons. 4) Perfectionist. Someone feels that Keith's machining abilities just aren't sufficient or that they are significantly superior to him. 5) Style. Someone simply doesn't like or approve of his style of work or content. 6) Accuracy. Right or wrong, someone thinks Keith made a mistake. 7) Click mistake. Someone mistakenly clicked the thumbs down instead of the thumbs up icon. 8) Fluke. Someone left the computer to go to the restroom and the cat walked across the desk and moved/stepped on the mouse. 9) Isms. Sizeism, ageism, racism, etc. 10) Boredom. Someone watched the video and found it uninteresting.

[@cojones8518]

Why not a tight pin with a flange on it and put a recess on both sides of the plate so you can flip it?

[@hiddenworldforge374]

Why flip it?

[@donpollard9460]

Further comment - so, you will be driving Miss Daisy ...

[@jameskinglion]

how can I commission a small project

[@rickharrison5913]

Would you sell me a print of this? I am restoring the same press and the wheel is missing as well.

[@williamdavis7094]

Sorry for the comments I thought I was somewhere else sorry I didn't mean it forgive me

[@williamdavis7094]

When Trump first got elected I was for him but after just a little while I could tell he was crazy

[@williamdavis7094]

And someone please tell me why anyone in their right mind would ever vote for Trump again