Final Vi and Cait Conversation Explained | Arcane Season 2 Essay

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[@beastmonger4821]

Of course Vi will stay with Caitlyn as a enforcer... there is a lot of issues to fix between Piltover and Zaun... And relationship between them is a symbol that there can be symbiotic relationship between this 2 different worlds... =)

[@noform-2463]

Well, lore-wise they encounter quite a few villains as enforcers so it is possible to continue their story while introducing other characters and maybe, just maybe continuing Ekko and Jinx story.

[@aranthur]

Honestly, I think it would benefit both of them to take a break from law enforcement for a while. Maybe focus on helping with the rebuilding from the war and the council's neglect of the undercity, using Caitlyn's House Kiramman resources and Vi's knowledge and connections in Zaun. I know in Caitlyn's old lore there was a period before she became sheriff where she worked as a consultant/private investigator for a while, maybe they could do something like that as well. Then once they've recovered a bit from the finale (and maybe Caitlyn's reputation with Zaun has recovered from her Commander Caitlyn era), maybe they could return to the enforcers

[@noform-2463]

@@aranthur If we will get another series with CaitVi it won't be happening anytime soon, also i think they will do a time-skip to them working together as enforcers (Cait as a sheriff, and Vi as deputy). Also some people do think that Cait should spend some time in jail for what she have done in her commander era, what u guys think about it?

[@aranthur]

@noform-2463 I mean, does she deserve it for her actions? Yes, of course. But so does Jinx for hers, so does Sevika, so does Vi technically and a lot of other people too. But at this point in the story, would jailing any of those characters actually make the state of Piltover or Zaun better? Or would it just hurt them even more? I feel like a repeated message of the show is that punishment, even when it's deserved, is not always the right choice, especially if that person has changed and is actively making the world a better place now

[@beastmonger4821]

@@noform-2463 well because this is fantasy world i predict that she's already redeemed herself from her "crimes" and she has been manupulated by Ambessa so... + a think that woking with Vi at her side make lot of opportunities to change opinion of many Zaunites =)

[@BlizzardofKnives]

Vi's such a tragic hero, only able to be happy when the people she loves most keep secrets from her.

[@BabyXee0209]

From what I gather, Caitlyn is asking Vi if she’s still fighting her past-her struggle for equality between Zaun and Piltover, and the internal conflict of feeling like she has to choose between Caitlyn and Jinx. Caitlyn is seeking reassurance, wanting to know if Vi is ready to face any upcoming challenges alongside her, without being torn away whenever Jinx resurfaces. This is subtly hinted at when Caitlyn examines the map of the Hexgates, possibly contemplating the possibility of Jinx being alive. Vi’s response, “I am the dirt under your nails, Cupcake… nothing is ever going to get rid of me,” is significant. It shows that Vi is committing fully to Caitlyn, accepting whatever comes their way. She’s honoring Jinx’s earlier wish for her to live happily with Caitlyn, even if she eventually learns Jinx is still alive. In essence, Vi is choosing to live her life with Caitlyn, rather than letting her past and her sister’s choices dictate her future. Meanwhile, Jinx decides to break the cycle and live as Powder again. Her decision to ride the airship-a dream she mentioned in the first episode-symbolizes her moving forward without Vi, a bittersweet reflection of her childhood aspirations. Her scene with Caitlyn where she voices, “She (Vi) can’t accept what we both know… there are no happy endings,” underline her belief that Vi cannot have both Caitlyn and Jinx in her life. Recognizing this, Jinx chooses to leave, understanding that Vi deserves happiness and that this happiness lies with Caitlyn. Her departure is a final act of love and self-awareness, allowing her sister to move on and find peace. ❤

[@iavarra]

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[@boogycat20]

Well said 👏

[@mathies3598]

To be honest with you though it's not quite her saying that to me cuz its a lot easier to say that you're 100% completely comitted to caitlyn when she doesnt actually believe jinx is dead. If she wasnt, this could change again but vi doesnt believe thats possible

[@kmrazSilverSimmer73]

Beautifully put

[@BlazinMosquitoe]

You worded this perfectly, and I completely agree.

[@PricefieldPunk]

Someone on Tiktok/Twitter spotted that early in the episode you can see there's only 1 chair in that room with the fireplace when Caitlyn wasn't officially with Vi yet but at the end Caitlyn has 2 chairs in the room. That entire 6 months apart she felt alone and now with Vi she feels at home sharing her life with her.

[@BirSorunumuzVar]

People who have experienced the terror of possibly losing a loved one understand Caitlyn's point. And Vi's witty response - like herself - may have been the most comforting response in the world.

[@marcosfrm]

At first I thought "still in this fight?" meant wanting to live and have peace, but it's actually the opposite. Cait is asking if Vi is still stuck in the past, which she's been suffering from since she was young. Vi's answer tells us she's ready to stop and start over. This new beginning won't be easy, as there's a lot of trauma and wounds to heal, both in Vi and Caitlyn, and in Zaun and Piltover. Caitlyn won't tell Vi that Jinx is alive because when she visited Jinx in prison, Jinx told her "she [Vi] cannot accept what you and I know, there are no happy endings." Caitlyn knows Jinx left to break the cycle and that's the only way for Vi to be happy.

[@navidtahmasbi2870]

after jinx returned to help them caits opinion on her should have changed thats why she somehow hopes for her being alive for the sake of vi i think at last both have realized that they must get along well for vi

[@marcosfrm]

@@navidtahmasbi2870 I agree. After Jinx saved her life, Caitlyn's pure rage towards her started to thaw. She let Vi release Jinx, mostly for Vi's sake, but she had to forgive Jinx to make it happen. I have a feeling we'll see Caitlyn and Jinx together peacefully someday. It'll be super interesting to see how Caitlyn and her sister-in-law interact. 🤣

[@marcosfrm]

@@navidtahmasbi2870 Let's also remember that Jinx had a change of heart about Caitlyn. I think fulfilling her deal with Vi, protecting Warwick from Singed, was a turning point. It led Jinx to tell Vi "you deserve to be with her".

[@siylkatl5379]

Cait can't say Jinx is alive if she's not completely sure. I don't get why a lot of people say its selfish, on the contrary. Giving hope to Vi and taking it away(if Jinx is not) one more time, losing her sister again would broke Vi. And Cait was always a very methodical person. Your explanations make a lot of sense ❤

[@miccarl1208]

Caitlyn's greatest quality is protecting people. That's what she learnt from Grayson. Love the addition of the fireplace detail. I swear this show has over 50 themes that all parallel each other. I also personally believe Caitlyn ends up telling her Violet her theory anywyays. Violet along with Caityln and Jinx all take time to heal from the pain, sorrow, losses they've endured and will meet up back again one day. Great video as usual 👏

[@Sorfallo]

I don't think she will tell Vi until she has more definitive proof. Giving her a potentially false hope right now would destroy her barely held together psyche if Jinx hasn't escaped or they never meet again.

[@hknlndbrg]

I think nothing could stop Vi from going down and examine the scene of the explosion with the others. They found the piece of the monkey bomb, but no trace of Powder. Caitlin is curious about the details and is checking the drawings, but Vi has already concluded that Powder must have survived but decided to 'walk away', so she is still mourning the loss in a way.

[@StopMeOh]

@@hknlndbrg okay might be enough of Cait/Vi for me this week because as you said "nothing can stop Vi from going down" my mind went elsewhere lol

[@craigsteed-n8w]

I think that there may have been another question that Caitlyn was asking. Are you still alive? And it may not have been an entirely conscious question on her part. At this point in the narrative, Vi is mostly emotional scar tissue. The look on Catlyn's face was one on concern and pain. She is knows the woman she dearly loves is going to be in pain for a long time.

[@StopMeOh]

@@craigsteed-n8w good point as well!

[@Sorfallo]

Vi has been going through to motions of being alive without actually living for basically all of season 2. Since the explosion in the warehouse, Vi has had one good thing in the entire 7+ years: meeting Caitlyn. And even that isn't all good. But, luckily, Vi is strong, and she will put the pieces back together.

[@aranthur]

If Piltover and Zaun are to thrive and break down their barriers and ultimately grow together, it's going to take a lot of effort and time and dedication. This fight isn't over, and by the end Caitlyn is clearly dedicated to the task of doing just that, because the greater good is the motivation she kind of fumbled this season but then regained But Vi has lost almost all of the things that once motivated her to act in the past. Her family, her home, even her enemies are all gone. It would be understandable if she also needed to walk away and start over somewhere new like Jinx, or even to curl up and stop fighting for anything at all kind of like she did at the beginning of episode 4. Caitlyn knows that and would respect it, but ultimately she hopes Vi also sees the merit in the work of building a better city where no more children end up going through what Vi and Powder did. Sees that as a cause worth fighting for

[@fraglespb]

I agree with everything you said. For a while I thougt that BECAUSE of Vi's respons, Cait didn't tell her abut possibility that Jinx might still be alive. Just look at Vi, she is obviously happy, no wounds, no bandages, hair in proper color :) . But than I thought, Vi would not be Vi, if she also wouldn't check the place. So most likaly she also knows that there is a chance that Jinx is alive, and Vi respects Jinx decision. So she also finally let it go, and is filling her own cup. (with cupcake ;) ) Plus, I hope they will reapear in future Riots productions still together and happy. Just stronger. ❤

[@YuriChocolatechan]

One problem, vi still drinking or am i mistaken?

[@fraglespb]

@@YuriChocolatechan it is a happy drink, different story :)

[@joannehetherington3519]

I hope we see vi and caitlyn again at some point

[@Dani2000T]

Also I loved the detail of Vi not wearing bandages in her knuckles because she dosen´t have to fight anymore,and I think Cait hasn´t told Vi because she knows BOTH of them (Vi and Jinx) are better a part, but knowing her she will...one day

[@sksikha7732]

I believe the final line spoken by Vi in the series has multiple interpretations, leaving it up to the viewers to perceive it in their own way. I won’t interpret Cait’s question from every angle, as it seems straightforward; she simply wanted to know if Vi was still with her after everything. Cait knew how much Vi had lost and understood that, practically, Vi had little reason to keep fighting. She also knew that fighting was all Vi had ever known, which is why she asked if Vi was still in this fight. However, Vi’s answer holds deeper meaning. Who or what is the "dirt"? And whose nails was she referring to? When Vi delivered this line, I don’t think she was happy. She was humming a tune from her mother, signaling that she missed her, or more accurately, missed a time when she had no responsibilities, no pain, no regret, no grief, and felt safe. Here’s my theory: Firstly, the obvious one, Vi was confirming to Cait that she would stay by her side, no matter what. 2nd, throughout the series, we learn that Vi’s world revolved around her sister. Even though Jinx is gone and wants Vi to move on, Vi simply can’t. Letting go would mean betraying her own identity, which is deeply tied to her sister. Here, I believe Vi was referring to her love for her sister as the 'dirt' under HER nails, something she can never truly let go of (as Jinx once said, "I'll always be with you."). No matter how happy Vi becomes with Cait or how much peace she finds, that happiness will never feel complete without her little sister. Vi never wanted anything for herself; all she ever wanted was to give Powder a better world. Her final line shows that Jinx is the dirt under Vi's nails; something neither Cait nor anyone else could ever cleanse. 3rd, we’ve seen that Vi always fights for the people she loves. She tries to keep everyone safe, especially her sister. She promised Vander she would protect Powder and their family, but no matter how hard she tried, she always ended up failing. In the last episode, she couldn’t save either her father or her sister. Her final line could imply that her life (the tragedies, the losses) is the dirt under her own nails (because, deep down she blames herself for all of it), and no matter how much she tries to make things right, she always ends up with guilt and grief. Lastly, this interpretation extends to us, the viewers, and even the creators of the show. No matter how much we wish for Vi to have a happy ending, and the creators try to give her one; it may never be possible. She will always carry loss, grief, regret, guilt, and a sense of failure. Even so, she will never give up. She will keep trying to make things better and will never lose her sanity. In my opinion, Vi is the most tragic yet strongest character in Arcane. Despite everything, she embodies resilience. Her strength lies not in avoiding pain but in continuing to fight, even when burdened by loss.

[@mathies3598]

Big difference between caitlyn and silco here is that jinx has explicitly asked vi for distance. Vi i think is still too stubborn and attached to jinx to accept that if she thinks she's alive. The reason jinx would want this distance between them is that jinx still very much thinks that people who are close to her end up dying, and she doesnt want that fate for Vi. Vi on the other hand WAS there to seek reconciliation with her sister, and silco was trying to prevent it.

[@marcosfrm]

So, I guess our interpretation, even though it makes sense, wasn't what the creators were going for... Christian Linke talked about the final dialogue, giving this meaning to Cait's question: "Do I still have you in my corner? Or do you need to log out because it’s been too much?" (you can find his interview on Animation World Network by searching for this quote). It's a way for Cait to give Vi an out, if she wants it. The answer shows that the original Vi is still there and isn't going anywhere, that she'll still fight any battle, even after things have turned out way different than she'd hoped. She'll keep fighting for the people she loves, for Cait, Ekko... Maybe for Zaun too?

[@mayaraqueiroz1849]

I love your analyses ❤ I think Vi knows. That room is the Kiramman Archives and apparently only Cait has access. I don't think Vi was just there relaxing by the fireplace, but waiting for Cait to do whatever it was she was doing. Cait found the answer, but she needed to make sure that Vi's answer wouldn't be the same (always go after her sister). Vi accepted that her sister has her own path and destiny, that she needs to seek her own happiness. She accepted Jinx as an equal and not as someone she constantly needs to protect - thus breaking her own cycle. She then reassures Cait that they are together and she is there to stay. But, as Cait says in her speech, this story isn't over yet.

[@michaelbertrand6250]

Everything you said makes perfect sense thank you for clarifying it for all of us

[@Buffy8Fan]

I commented positively on an opinio/comment of another videon that agreed with the fact that certain moments did happen, just not overtly, and that the story wasn't as rushed as some fans think. In the process, a person who disagreed started judging me (to the point of being rude to me) for liking the season. The rest of the threads comments debated these things, and today numerous people, who were of the opinion of the story being rushed and didn't understand what people were seeing, stated that after reading the 30+ threaded comments, they started to understand their expectations vs what was in the series are two different things. Its nice to see some positive outcome, even if one of them wasn't an apology for what the one individual said to me, which I found interesting as what they stated Caitlyn should have done overtly to Vi was apologize, but I feel most of Violyn's conversation's since the end of Act 2 have been one, long, non-communicative apology to one another, including the undertones of the last scene this video talks about. There is a huge difference in Caitlyn not telling Vi what she considers a possibility of Powder/Jinx being alive (we don't know Caitlyn knows for sure) and Silco playing Jinx with his manipulations and lies. And even if Caitlyn does know her getting Vi's hopes up without difinitive proof could cause more harm than good considering part of Vi's arc this season has been letting go of her sister. Loved this video. Hope to see more.

[@StarslightAndDreams]

I understand people calling this season rushed. i think the themes and the individual stories of the characters i like the most (cait, vi, jinx, sevika, mel) were done nicely. Season 2 left a lot to subtext. you have to constantly read between the lines. like yes, cait didn't look straight at the camera and say "i apologize for my actions" but she did at least 7 things that sealed her redemption. would i have handled it differently? sure, but i'm not a writer and i trust the show's creators. All in all, i wish we had seen many scenes there surely did happen (sevika reacting to ishas death, her final scene with jinx, her as a councelor, jinx talking to ekko, cait apologizing for what she did to vi, vi finding her after the battle, etc etc) but we know these things happened. the real flaws i see in this season have little to do with the characters i mentioned and more with the overall direction the plot took. In the end, i think jinx and vi got the only ending that made sense. and i am so glad vi got a bittersweet happy end.

[@Buffy8Fan]

@@StarslightAndDreams What I find interesting is that there are many people who think the season has flaws, but cannot agree what the flaws are. To me, that's just a mark of great writing because it shows people having their own issues with different things and not really a _there is one giant issue that people were initially trying to say was wrong_ problem. You could do this with S1 as well (because nothing in pop culture is perfect), but everyone still loves it. I respect people's opinions of not liking everything in S2 as long as they aren't rude to me as an individual. Unfortunately, the internet seems to be getting worse and worse in regards to being rude to people all the time. Out of curiosity, what direction did you want the plot to go that would make you not have the above opinion?

[@StarslightAndDreams]

@@Buffy8Fan Oh i agree so much with the rudeness. i'm sorry that happened to you. it's absolutely right that the same scene can be deeply loved by some and hated by others at the same time and for a hundred different reasons. i think that shows just how great arcane really is. i personally wanted to plot to revolve around vi vs jinx / piltover vs zaun. we can keep ambessa as a villain but shouldn't lose focus on the class imbalance between the two cities. i loved jinx and vi this season though but i wanted the plot to be moved by them more, rather than them just being moved by the plot, you know?

[@AndresSztaba]

@@Buffy8Fan Sorry for bothering you with such a late reply, just stumbled across this video lol. What I can gather from a lot of people not satisfied with the ending, or criticizing it is not how it ends, or the explicit scene in the cell, but more how they built up that scene. How was it handled, and some characters' story arc. Take vi as an example, we see that she ends up drunk, street fighting, depressed and all that jazz, but we don't see how she descends into that, what thoughts cross her mind, and I'm not saying "show us a complete episode on that", but dedicating some more minutes, like I don't know, her saying some similar words to the new in-game voice lines they added for her into League (don't know if you play it or if you heard those anywhere) to Loris, that big guy that she stumbles across. Or even the cell scene, it felt like there was too litle context into how Jinx came up to the conclussion that she had to move away from her sister and convince her to be happy, apart from her hallucinations and the two phrases she says to Vi. Same applies to Cait, a bit more words about her screwing up things with Vi before they get to you know what. Is like they cut some corners in many places to reach the finish line so to speak, more than the finish line itself (finish line being how things play out in the end). I can understand that writers/animators had a time limitation, no idea if self-imposed, or by Netflix/Riot/Tencent, to end the series, but idk, as much as I liked where they got, it is the how, the points along they wat that they didn't show, that bothered me, and many others, and it only seems logical to me to think that way...

[@Buffy8Fan]

@@AndresSztaba My issue is that people are complaining about watsonian issues with doylist reasoning, where I see nothing wrong with the in-universe. Doylism, in this case just showed things needed to be structured differently, but the story is all still there when you watch as a Watsonian because studying the show that way makes you put aside the Doylist issues.

[@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk]

I always interpreted the question as exactly as straight forward and on the nose at it's presented, but there's a layer to it that's extremely impactful: Vi actually, genuinely gets to choose to either fight or not. She hasn't been able to do that before, not really. Everyone, including Vi herself, always put the weight of it on her, either in the form of expectations or redirected guilt. Vi always fought because she felt like she had to, because it was the only thing she _could_ do. She was always pushed into it one way or another instead of actually being able to fully make the choice herself. But here, now, in their little safe space, Caitlyn breaks the vicious spiral by genuinely presenting Vi with the option to say no, to say she's had enough and she's out. That's why she takes herself out of the question entirely. Cait could've asked "are you still in this fight _with me,_ Violet?" which would have immediately made the question a lot more loaded and likely pushed Vi to a certain answer again. Because of course Vi would keep up the fight if it meant she fights for someone she loves. That's who she is. But that's not what Caitlyn asks. Cait asks "are you still in this fight, Violet?" A completely open question that allows for an entirely selfish answer.

[@AndresSztaba]

She might be asking that implying meaning if she's willing to face whatever (mostly emotional/personal) things come her way and try to be happy, knowing that she's not the best at processing stuff that happen to her, as we saw in act 2 of this season. I think that's one of the things this show does great, it presents a ton of stuff that you can interpret the way you want, or the way you see it, not only the "writer's intention", in a way making your won story of sorts whithout altering the one put on screen...

[@KriZisGanra]

I've just realised that ALL the acts in Arcane ended with Powder/Jinx and Vi being separated: Season 1 Act 1: Vi is taken to prison and Powder stays with Silco. Season 1 Act 2: Vi finally meets Jinx and there's the chance for them to make amends but the firelights show up and kidnap Vi and Caitlyn. Season 1 Act 3: Jinx kidnaps Vi and Caitlyn and we all know how this ends🥲 Season 2 Act 1: They meet again during their battle but separated at the end. Season 2 Act 2: One more family drama, but this time Jinx ends up in prison and Vi ends up half dead in Caitlyn's bed :) Season 2 Act 3: This time Jinx decides to "break the cycle" and live her life somewhere else. And Vi finally stops chasing her sister, lets go of the past and stays with the person she loves. I would say both of them broke the cycle and no matter how bittersweet the end is there's beauty in it.

[@StopMeOh]

@@KriZisGanra that is such a great catch

[@Anyafdo00]

How did anyone else not notice that Cait was wearing the same outfit during the prison scene but without the coat

[@StopMeOh]

@@Anyafdo00 yeah it was the same, that was her last part of the season look

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

I think it was stated somewhere that the "Fight" being referenced is the continuing struggle to unite Piltover and Zaun peacefully. Even with what happened in Episode 9, we are still dealing with GENERATIONS of issues between topside and the undercity, and that doesn't just go away quickly.

[@8dforce]

These are some nice insights of their final scene together in the show. While watching Caitlyn looking at the possibility of Jinx's survival, I think she ultimately decided to drop it due to not having enough solid evidence, and how unhappy she was when hunting her down. Caitlyn also didn't want to hurt Violet with false hope knowing there is a good chance she could be wrong about Jinx surviving. I like how Caitlyn had so many questions to ask and was able to put them all into one. It was subtle, but there was also a hint of fear written on her face when she asked, like a silent plea to Violet telling her what her true fear is, losing her for good and being truly alone. Violet was able to understand the question and heard Caitlyn's hidden fear. Despite what and who she lost, Violet knows what she has now, a home and the woman she loves. The way Violet answered her question is what put Caitlyn's fears to rest, by calling her by the nickname she gave her and essentially saying I am here, I will always love you and will remain by your side no matter what. The last part of the final scene I find heartwarming is both of them wearing a relaxed smile on their faces which shows how much their love for each other has a positive effect on their mental, and emotional well-being.

[@fatiger114]

I love this ! After these days of contemplation, I come to think that Arcane is really a love letter from Caitlyn (to all the people she cares. And obviously she is capable of caring a lot of people) It’s very beautiful and that the final narrative is her voice. She learned, she tried, made mistakes, accepted, and let people be. And still, this doesn’t affect the fact that this is a story of the two sisters, healing together. Arcane is unparalleled ❤

[@StopMeOh]

@@fatiger114 I hope love letter from Caitlyn to me xD

[@birdyang]

Great analysis! Given the clues and historic behavior that the show has shown us: - cait was willing to risk losing Vi by letting her decide whether to free Jinx or not and potentially leaving cait behind - cait feeling the deep urge to be fully transparent with Vi about Maddie even if it means stopping the making love session - and that Cait has been nothing but fully transparent since they reconciled in viktors camp (whereas vi was still hiding and not be 100% truthful) - vis three rules to ambessa, first being honest I think there is plenty of evidence to show Cait will be truthful to Vi when she has more confirmation or at a better opportune time. Not to mention that Cait and Vi are actually in the same room when Cait was investigatin the archives. Cait has already assumed the role of Vander as Vi’s protrctor in Vi’s life (the parallel of Vi leaning on Vander and Vi leaning on Cait in the very first and very last scene of arcane w the same music is no coincidence). That also shows that Cait is family to Vi now and if Vi’s primary purpose is protecting family and loved ones, Cait is squarely in that category. Both gals will prioritise protecting each other as they start lookong to the future.

[@ArsiekDHOL]

Lot of questions for this last scene about that specific question from Caitlyn. I also wonder why she called Vi with Violet...like it doesn't sound like a "cute funny" pet name like Vi called cupcake for teasing. And indeed I also think Cait knows Jinx is still alive but not saying to Vi "worried" she may go find Jinx again. Also "are you still in this fight" I wonder they make spin offs of this serie where we maybe see some glimps of these two as enforcers fighting other fights.

[@StopMeOh]

@@ArsiekDHOL that'd be a dream come true

[@AleksandraSetsumei]

It feels to me that "Violet" was a thing for the shippers... for some reason it feels so intimate :o I definitely loved it

[@StopMeOh]

@@AleksandraSetsumei yes xD

[@ArsiekDHOL]

@@AleksandraSetsumei It's also funny that Katie leung has said it once in an interview Belgium FACTS (before S2 was released) that Cait would call Vi "Violet" 🤣🤣 she didn't lie

[@sabri3917]

Sorry to kind of « disagree » with you on your take on the finale but I think that Caitlyn not telling Vi about Jinx make zero sense (or you could say Vi not knowing make zero sense). We saw Cait playing with the remains of Jinx bomb (the monkey head) and Vi and Cait live together now so of course Vi realized something and obviously Vi is the one who tell Cait about the location of where Jinx « sacrifice » her life. They definitely went to that place and find no body of her but just the monkey head. So I’m pretty sure that Vi knows there is a chance that her sister is still alive. But Vi also knows that if this is the case then Jinx doesn’t want to be found and Vi has learnt to respect her sister choices. After all, as some already said, Vi character arc is about letting go of the past and accept the future, thus accepting that things change. It’s the same for her relationship to her sister, she realize she has changed and doesn’t need Vi help anymore. Vi must now concentrate on herself and her happiness, just like Jinx told her to. So my take on the ending is that Vi probably know there is a chance Jinx has survived but she respect her sister wish and decided to move on with her life and to whatever she decided to do alongside Caitlyn. Because for me it's the explanation that could fit Vi character arc the better. And speaking of Vi character arc, I read a tumblr post about why the ending, as it is presented by the writers, kind of robbed Vi character arc. The article is very interesting and I find myself 100% agree with what it said. You can find it here : www.tumblr.com/aspoonofsugar/768508458684301312/ok-gotta-ask-whats-the-plain-and-cheap-writing

[@tutunepan492]

My favorite part is when Caitlyn felt the need to let Vi know that she has been with someone else 🥺 Vi was thrown in jail from 15 to 22 and the moment she was released through that cell moment Vi has been on a fast track. And Caitlyn (19-21) having to go through similar change, however had to enjoy her teenage years. Their first kiss caught Vi by surprised despite teasing/ intimidating Cait in season 1. Now the curiosity remains, was Vi...umm still V up to that point. Why Caitlyn felt the need to let her know that she was with someone else thinking Vi would be mad? Lost interest? See her differently? Cait's hesitation in that particular moment was interesting to me As for this video...I was thinking about that last question too. That sisterly bond between Vi and Powder got pulled for her to randomly start humming that lullaby...❤

[@vrrrrrr6872]

Hm for me there is no real question here. Cait saw someone _after_ their bonding+first kiss, before the reconciliation in ep 8. She doesn't want Vi to doubt that Cait loves her, but she also doesn't want to be dishonest. And I don't think either of them assumed that the other one is a V. It doesn't really matter for them. But what Cait was worried about is that Vi would perhaps consider the fling with someone else as a "betrayal". So when Vi reassured her that she doesn't care (meaning, I know you love me and I don't want any more barriers between us), Cait is not anymore tormented about her choices (to sleep with Maddie while loving Vi).

[@finalfantasy8VIII]

Do you know what happens in prison!? No way Vi is a V. Plus those moves in the cell, no way.

[@tutunepan492]

​@@finalfantasy8VIII😮 even though it's a possibility, considering that the prison had both wo/men...and Vi was "beat" constantly....I ..I don't want to think about that for Vi 😢😭 And often, people don't consider *😣 as their first... ....

[@tutunepan492]

​​@@vrrrrrr6872....well there's all that into it. They shared a kiss 💋 but they weren't an item, a couple. After they went their separate ways for a moment. I am not sure being with Maddie would be something that would panic Caitlyn that much when finally with Vi

[@iavarra]

​@@tutunepan492I didn't really understand your point, sorry, English is not my native language. Can you explain in more detail please?

[@peppecrea7414]

About the hiding information abot the sister "parallel". While I totally agree that Cait has only good intentions, I partly disagree with what you say about Sylco, I think he hides the truth because he's afraid of losing his daughter, it's selfish, it's wrong, but it's his way of loving Jinx. If you watch Sylco's behavior during all of season 1, he's always calm and collected, the only times he become nervous are when he feel he can lose her (except one time in episode 3 when he lose his calm about Vander). Going back to Cait, I feel that she's doing it not only for Vi, she's also respecting Jinx's decision

[@StarslightAndDreams]

I keep imagining Vi needing a moment to heal and process what happened but soon after going back to Zaun. She has a lot of work to do there as i see it. She needs to join forces with Ekko, start talking about the future and bring Sevika on board too. These 3 are the future of Zaun i think. I honestly do not want her to ever be an enforcer again. Of course Vi will return to Piltover but if she stays true to her season 1, especially act 1 roots, she will dedicate her life for a better future for Zaun.

[@vinxeye]

she IS an enforcer though. She works with Caitlyn and she brings piece to BOTH Piltover and Zaun.

[@ekaterinastaneva9922]

Cait is doing what Jinx wanted - they are happy with Vi, together, there is peace. Jinx would have wanted it to stay this way, so I think Cait just dropped the theory and the investigation around Jinx, since nothing good will come out of it for anyone.

[@jimvlacho636]

Two questions remain unanswered: 1) Why did Eko did not get affected by Victors while lines and how did he survive the time loop of more than 4 secs? 2) Powder in episode 7 had hextech orbs, what did that mean?

[@idkwhatiam1042]

The alternate reality Powder isnt at the bridge, if you look closely, its a Jinx fan with Xs all over her outfit. Closeups of her putting the paper in the bowl show that her hands are not Powders skin tone.

[@abigalecameron6814]

Im pretty convinced, we will go back to zaun and piltover eventually, maybe time skip 3 years

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Very well done Video, I can see what you mean, although Silco did really believe that Vi was dead too. Anyway, your interpretation has some merit, I wonder if we’ll get some confirmation? By the way, anyone noticing that Vi has now a Scar on her Tattoo? Also, where do you think Jinx went?

[@StopMeOh]

@@johanstenfelt1206 Silco did believe Vi was dead but he was telling Jinx that she left her which was a lie and fairly manipulative on his side still

[@johanstenfelt1206]

@@StopMeOh on that account, yeah, fair point.

[@olesiaandersen6255]

Cait is hyding nothing, she's actually sitting in the same room with Vi :-)

[@StopMeOh]

Haha yeah I saw that post too but still that is a big armchair xD

[@AlbnS]

Another detail that broke my heart is Vi's answer, comparing herself to dirt, and "nothing's gonna clean [her] out". Vi is often very sarcastic, and uses double meaning a lot. Maybe I'm reaching, but what I'm understanding here is that she will never "come clean", will always keep those scars that stains her. Comparing herself to dirt sounds awful, like beeing a burden for Caitlyn.

[@miguelarturogallegosacuna3803]

Silco didn´t know that Vi was alive in that scene, he believed that Vi died, When he found out that she was still alive, he got shocked and then went to Marcus to ask him WTF, then he tries to kill Vi so she stays dead, after he failed he lies and gaslights JInx so hard that is out of character, almost like he is in panic, it was a weird scene honestly.

[@sardineta58]

More caitvi on spinoffs? What do you think?

[@StopMeOh]

@@sardineta58 preach

[@sardineta58]

I directally ask because i hace bot found a lot discussion about It. May arcane have ended (the hex nucleus paradox, the cicle and so)....but what about nain characters? May they be interconnected?

[@StopMeOh]

@@sardineta58 I mean I sure hope we see more of them fighting crimes in P&Z

[@AndresSztaba]

@@sardineta58 Don't know if you're a League player, but if you're not, there's another character from Noxus (same as Ambessa), that in his story, he ends up in a mine/prison in the depths of Zaun, where he ends up being some kind of mutated criminal overlord, I'll leave the rest up for you to discover if you want. There's a cinematic that Riot released about a year before Arcane S1 that shows a fight between him and some other thugs against both Vi and Cait, so, I can imagine that timeline-wise this is something that happened some time after he series finale. That's one story on the top of my head that has both of these related to another character from a different region, so hopefully we can see some of that, even if not as a main arc. Side note: in that cinematic, both Cait and Vi have the looks that they have in-game, not the ones we've seen in Arcane, tho I like the latter way more... EDIT: there's also a line in off by Cait that says something like "our story isn't over" or whatever, so, maybe we can see them both again in the future. here's me hoping we do...

[@sardineta58]

@@AndresSztaba not, i'm not. However, i watched some cinemáticas, like this one you named. Also, other with lux and jinx (that smells to continúe their story with lux a main character of demacia) Now, it's said that the three new series are not diferent projects, just diferent places to cover. I think, their first intention was to continue arcane in diferent places. I think (not proves or so, just suspect) may have been some problem with Netflix or the owner of riot or so (budget, creativity or so), and they have change....the concept but not the aim of the project (copiright, loyal isues and so). Then, the first five seasons idea is now one serie of two seasons and another of three. The first one, just with the cicle with the sisters, humanity versus perfection, jayce and victor, the arcane... (A new key weapon against the empty?) and so. The other....i think arcane was not thought as e an isolated project. In some way, must be conected with the rest. Is because of this, the ending of arcane tastes like hints to other stories more than a closed ending (caitlyn asking if vi is in this fight, ekko's new powers, jinx not being death....). Or maybe, im just trying to have any hope :)

[@wickdaline8668]

Are you making any content for Life Is Strange: Double Exposure, or have you clocked out from that?

[@StopMeOh]

@@wickdaline8668 I will make a review however I played the game and very much disliked it. For now Arcane took over my content but now that it is calming down I still intend to comment soon. I have played the game and to me that is the worst LiS title by far :/

[@jennylee8725]

Secondo te possono tornare le mie ragazze

[@anabrans2]

Idk, Vi lived for years in torment in prison thinking Powder was dead, and here Jinx did "die" protecting Vi, so the guilt would be even bigger. Since Caitlyn is holding that monkey bomb head i doubt she holds it without Vi knowing about it. I doubt she went there alone to investigate. Could it be that they both think there is a possibility Jinx lived but Vi decides to let her go? Because she humming the song while holding a drink doesnt really seem like grieving or guilt to me.

[@cliziamichielan1704]

0:39 this girl has black skin tho

[@StopMeOh]

Yes but it was just a visual hint given the exact same haircut and red ribbon

[@yellowheart9265]

Okay, so I have to say that this idea that Jinx has to leave for Vi to be happy is just plain stupid. It’s not like Jinx would keep hurting Vi (because those were Jinx’s paranoias caused by her past and her previous crimes). Caitlyn also committed crimes and traumatized Vi, but the show completely forgot about that and pretends it didn’t happen. Caitlyn literally committed war crimes. Vi was really happy in episode Vi could easily have both Jinx and Caitlyn in her life. Sure, their relationship wouldn’t be simple, but Jinx regretted her actions, and Caitlyn seemingly forgave her for Vi’s sake. Plus, both Caitlyn and Jinx could shake hands when it comes to their crimes (Caitlyn collaborated with Ambessa and even admired her - the fact that she opposed her in one conversation doesn’t erase the fact that she still worked with her, making her guilty of war crimes, like the gas attack on Zaun,and hurting Zaun(Vi 's original home ) later as leader of Piltover )This show should also end with Jinx and Vi being together. Because the way it’s written now, it’s like Vi is happier without Jinx, as if Jinx is “misery” for Vi. No one forces Jinx into violence and crime, and she clearly doesn’t want to keep doing that anymore. So it’s not like she would continue committing crimes - she didn’t have to “leave” Vi at all. Jinx already broke the cycle of killing by reconciling with Vi in episode 5, something Silco couldn’t achieve with Vander. Jinx would also be much happier with Vi close to her in her life - and Ekko too :)After all sisterhood was heart of this show ,We can have CaitVi ship and JInx and Vi sisterhood too ,.Both Cait and JInx traumatized Vi ,so it not like Cait is superior and JInx has to be far away cause she caused to much pain and sense of guilt in Vi .Cait also cayse trauma (emo vi hello ,and sesne of gulit ,i mean joing enforcers ,im sure that Vi during her emo era hated herself for that .

[@StarslightAndDreams]

just a quick comment because i feel like no one is getting this. caitlyn didn't literally gad zaunites, jfc. she said it in episode 2 herself. she was dismantling shimmer and neutralizing silco's people. and that's exactly what she did. her actions also did not make the people of zaun act out more. they were proud of jinx for having commited a terrorist act. and yes, thats exactly what it was

[@Azenithf]

Kind of wish the writers allowed vi to finally accept jinx, since jinx is the product of so much trauma and suffering they went through at the hands of piltover. Instead she never stopped pining for powder. I really hated what they did to cait and vi's characters in comparison to their characters in s1. Very disappointing end for me.

[@iavarra]

There is too much pain, it takes time to move away. This is the most relish of the Arcane - very real-life situations, not fairy tales with pink ponies and unicorns.

[@StarslightAndDreams]

@Azenithf i believe you can argue that she did in the prison scene. she went to free her after all and never called her powder once. vi has done nothing but run after her every time. now vi has to be free to make her own choices

[@yellowheart9265]

@@StarslightAndDreams true that zaunties were proud of JInx attack ,(wchich was terrorism and wrong ,Jinx strted the war ),but truth is that Cait still used gas wchich tehnicly is crime nothneless

[@darklightimages]

a lie by omission is still a lie. You can do all the mental gymnastics you want, if you are omitting information from someone you "love" that is still manipulation. Silco loved Jinx and still lied to her, Catlin "loves" Vi and is still lying to her. Vi is taking the advice of Jinx and staying with Catlin because she is being lied to about what happened to Jinx not because she is making a informed decision .

[@aranthur]

But that's just an assumption you're making. We see Caitlyn considering whether or not Jinx could be alive, then the show ends literally 30 seconds later. We don't know what she does next or what she does or doesn't tell Vi about this theory she has no proof for either way Calling Caitlyn a liar and putting quotation marks around love because of something you think might happen off screen later is kinda jumping the gun, don't you think?

[@darklightimages]

@aranthur So I put quotation marks around love because you don't lie and emotionally manipulate someone you love. If she had any kind of thought that she might be alive but only ask if Vi is still in the fight with her shows Catilin cares more about keeping Vi with her in her perceived fight then helping Vi process the fact that Jinx might or might not be alive.

[@aranthur]

@darklightimages Again, that scene was 30 seconds long. You're making a lot of assumptions based on 0 evidence. I'm not even saying you're definitely wrong, I'm just saying we don't have enough screen time after that to say one way or another

[@darklightimages]

@aranthur I know that in that 30 second clip they had Catilin say "are you still in this fight" instead of "Vi I need to tell you something. Jinx might be alive." Which shows what Catlin valued more. Vi sticking with her instead of having Vi look for clues about Jinx.

[@karimrashidpour9378]

​@@darklightimages When you are telling them something this delicate and important, you need to be 100% sure that this is true. Caitlyn has strong suspicions and probably believes Jinx is alive...however can she guarantee this to Vi? No. And the huge risk is that she will reopen a huge and painful scar to Vi and she might not be able to recover. Or even worse, if Jinx was really dead and Caitlyn's assumption was wrong, there is a chance that Vi might hang on the hope that Cait gave her and she might chase a ghost for the rest of her life. I think that Cait should tell Vi about Jinx only after she finds her herself or knows for sure that she has not perished.