FINALLY a Small and Cheap Electric Van!

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@metachuko
@metachuko 2 жыл бұрын
This is the ideal delivery van body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 жыл бұрын
It's true! I've never seen a big delivery van packed to the ceiling - you can't even reach the ceiling. This van and by extension the Japanese small vehicle trend? will be sorely needed in our cities moving forward
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 2 жыл бұрын
Is it as stable as the Reliant Robin?
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 2 жыл бұрын
@@BixbyConsequence Tell me you didn't watch the vid without saying you didn't watch the vid?
@junlinliu9815
@junlinliu9815 2 жыл бұрын
Similar stuff is already all over the place, and proven, in China.
@Tenhys
@Tenhys 2 жыл бұрын
_"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."_ Well... 65 millions years ago, T-Rex were all the rage. Today we've got Chickens... ... ain't progress a beautifully relative thing ?
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg 2 жыл бұрын
The 'happy face' that kids wave at and makes people smile has a knock-on effect with the driver; happy faces make lowers aggression levels. It's brilliant.
@CNile-se9xw
@CNile-se9xw 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that struck me was that Robbo literally walked into the cabin, no stepping up required. That alone would be huge for delivery guys who are in & out of their vans many times during their rounds. The simplicity & flexibility is pure genius, plus the drivers enjoy people waving & smiling as they go by. That is priceless. 👍
@dennishaggerty463
@dennishaggerty463 2 жыл бұрын
The key to this design is its simplicity and presumably avoiding the usual safety regulations by falling within the European Cycle Car spec. For many people this is just what they are looking for, overstuffing cars with frequently unwanted semi self driving tech etc just drives up the price and adds to the chip shortage. I wish them every success.
@GreenJimll
@GreenJimll 2 жыл бұрын
Take off the box, put on a fifth-wheel plate and you've got an electric Scammell Scarab. Those were used for "last mile" deliveries by British Rail for years - they could swap the trailer for a freshly made up load/different body (box, flatbed, etc) much quicker in the freight depots.
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 2 жыл бұрын
It actually looked like the box on the Midi & Maxi versions was swappable with a forklift.
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 2 жыл бұрын
It actually looked like the box on the Midi & Maxi versions was swappable with a forklift.
@stuartburns8657
@stuartburns8657 2 жыл бұрын
Just looked those up. Interesting
@mralistair737
@mralistair737 2 жыл бұрын
wonder if you could also have some of the batteries on the trailer.. so that you can charge one while it's back at base or similar.. probably overcomplicating things
@davidcoles5018
@davidcoles5018 2 жыл бұрын
I saw 8t and had the same thought. The Scarab reimagined.
@adamfrancissmith5511
@adamfrancissmith5511 2 жыл бұрын
These look fantastic. Just like the Piaggio Apecars you still see everywhere here in southern Italy. They still make them, too. I’m completely baffled that they’re still being manufactured with two-strokes and that Piaggio aren’t focusing on something like this instead.
@harshithsadhana7475
@harshithsadhana7475 2 жыл бұрын
here in india, piaggio became so successful that other such as Mahindra motors, copied made their 3three called alfa. baja motors, and tvs motors did the same copy work
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 2 жыл бұрын
Stuck in the past, and I would say half the vehicle could be done by Piaggio in house with no problems, just get the power plant, inverter and battery in. But stuck with the mentality of "not invented here", so they still do a 2 stroke engine, even if the rest of the planet has 4 strokes with better fuel economy, and much cheaper running cost, for the same price as the 2 stroke engine. Just means they will be bought out by Musoshi very soon, and become just another name from the past, though the brand may continue on this electric van in Italy.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap conversion kits for 2-stroker's is what's needed next. India seems to be all over this and with good reason. A huge existing fleet that just needs tweaking not trashing!
@harshithsadhana7475
@harshithsadhana7475 2 жыл бұрын
@@stickynorth In india, all piaggio are 4 stroke engine. I am shocked that piaggio still makes 2 stroke engines.
@jithj4350
@jithj4350 2 жыл бұрын
Piaggio Ape electric is available in India, size is little larger this. They are market leaders on the same I guess. Quality is not comparable to this one, especially interiors.
@GraemeLeRoux
@GraemeLeRoux 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant little vehicle, perfect for inner city work and probably a lot of fun to drive. One suggestion I’d make though is that they loose the passenger seat so that the driver could enter and exit the vehicle from the kerb side as well as the road side - less risk to the diver of being hit by traffic in a narrow street when getting in and out of the vehicle. You could also put the driver in the middle of the cab; that way there would be no need to make separate variants for LH and RH drive markets.
@stuartburns8657
@stuartburns8657 2 жыл бұрын
Some good design suggestions 👏
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps some use cases require a second person to assist in carrying stuff. They could offer a single seat configuration as an option though.
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 2 жыл бұрын
And either remove the doors (in warm countries) or fit sliding doors that can be latched open. Makes entry / egress quicker, and easier in tight spots.
@TheNightwalker247
@TheNightwalker247 2 жыл бұрын
I like your idea of putting the driver in the middle. A second seat could be an optional seat that can fold away, like the second seat in tractors.
@malcolmrose3361
@malcolmrose3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarkybugger5009 If you look at their website they kind of offer this as an option. Essentially you remove the normal door and add a "security bar" (their description) - essentially it's the door components (hinge, wing mirror mounting and door handle) from the middle of the door - but no top or bottom section.
@adrianlw2750
@adrianlw2750 2 жыл бұрын
Three wheels, perfect for going forwards into a “parallel parking” space, without riding the kerb. The once common electric milk float in the UK had three wheels. They knew a thing or two way back then!
@flyingpanhandle
@flyingpanhandle 2 жыл бұрын
Electric milk floats are still common, my local company however have always had 4 wheels. They use old Cromptons from the early 80s.
@BrettCooper4702
@BrettCooper4702 2 жыл бұрын
They dropped them due to safety issues around stability.
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrettCooper4702 Hmm, perhaps the issue lay more with the standard of the drivers?
@paspax
@paspax 2 жыл бұрын
@@t1n4444 .. Nope.. Tricycles with a single front wheel are inherently unstable.
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@paspax Yet Reliant Robins were still on UK roads for a very long time, ditto some early sports car, admittedly in a reverse configuration. Had they been "dangerous" then perhaps the vehicles would have disappeared from production altogether? The episode mentioned the vehicles featured were extremely popular so will presume it comes down to driving standards, the abilities of the drivers themselves and the environment they inhabit? Watching Clarkson hamming it up at every opportunity to overturn a three wheeler is not "real life", is it. Plus he demonstrated the survivability of several self induced relatively slow 'tipping overs". Three wheel configurations, single front wheel, offer huge advantages in that the turning circle is small cf two axle four wheel configurations. Ergo they are ideally placed as delivery vehicles where absolute speed, as in an urban area, isn't required. They are sometimes labelled "last mile" delivery vehicles. That said, now we are seeing proposals that the 30mph speed limit should be be reduced to 20mph throughout the land then such a vehicle might be absolutely idea for both urban and suburban commuting. I'd have one.
@terryhayward7905
@terryhayward7905 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically the modern version of the old milk float that I used to drive back in the 60s We really need a car version of this with 2 seats and LOW PRICED. A £40.000 car is not reasonably priced for most people. Innovative technology is great to look at and hear about, but something that is in the reach of low paid workers so that they do not have to drive older IC vehicles is what we really need now. 104 degree weather in the UK this week is finally proving that we don't have 10 years to sort things out
@stuartmorgan3654
@stuartmorgan3654 2 жыл бұрын
So a Citroen Ami. Only thing I'd like to see is more small EV's at low price that can do motorway speeds. This only does 30mph which might be fine in the city but feels a bit fraught in more open areas with speedier roads. Dacia spring might do it but apparently it's been delayed to 2024 for UK due to high demand in existing markets.
@grahamjohnson4702
@grahamjohnson4702 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartmorgan3654 It does 30 mph because that is all that is needed for this type of vehicle it is not meant for the motorway. Try listening to the video you are watching next time.
@OhFishyFish
@OhFishyFish 2 жыл бұрын
@@grahamjohnson4702 £40k. Fourty thousand! It's designed to grab a few green transportation grants from the government and nothing else.
@grahamjohnson4702
@grahamjohnson4702 2 жыл бұрын
@@OhFishyFish I don't follow your logic as it is a world vehicle not designed to grab any local grants so that's your answer up the shoot. But at £40000 I think it has missed the opportunity to be a price beater. With all that low tech £25000 would be the sensible pricing point, perhaps that is why no video has disclosed the price.
@OhFishyFish
@OhFishyFish 2 жыл бұрын
@@grahamjohnson4702 I don't doubt you don't get it.. It's another stupid project nobody would buy at the full RRP. Its a £40k tuk tuk with top speed of a bicycle for crying out loud.
@grantandre79
@grantandre79 2 жыл бұрын
This is frankly an ideal EV concept. I wish simple EV options like this were available to consumers. If this thing did 100km/h and had 100km of range (and could be NHTSA approved) the platform would be ideal for commuting, micro-camping, delivery, shopping, everything! I want one.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately to keep it safe and affordable we need to have our current models categorized under the regulations within the low speed vehicles segment. However, hold tight, in a year or so we will announce the production of our faster models with higher payload options.
@grantandre79
@grantandre79 2 жыл бұрын
@@musoshiEV looking forward to seeing what you have in the works! I know that safety regulations (requiring airbags, lane-departure warnings, etc…) have made it a real challenge to sell simple, high-utility vehicles in the US and other markets. Yours looks like a great example of the straightforward utility EV I wish for! Thx for the reply, I’ll “watch this space”. 👍🏼
@nakfan
@nakfan 2 жыл бұрын
I love when Mr Llewellyn is grinning from ear to ear. Then he is like a fish in water - or more accurate - like a FullyCharger in something propelled forward by electrons ⚡Keep flying ✌️
@stewreviews9345
@stewreviews9345 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Love it - tiny van with a happy face. More of these please.
@johnmcnulty6171
@johnmcnulty6171 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a bit of the Electric Milk Floats that used to be everywhere in the 70s and 80s, only modernised. Bet you could convert one of these to fulfill that role very easily, if such things were to make a comeback.
@BrettCooper4702
@BrettCooper4702 2 жыл бұрын
And they had stability issues too
@mralistair737
@mralistair737 2 жыл бұрын
milk rounds are having a bit of a boom thanks to the pandemic..we get 2 deliveries a week and the local guy had to stop taking new customers..
@davidforeman8347
@davidforeman8347 2 жыл бұрын
Great to have you back in front of the screen again!
@sdfswords
@sdfswords 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, super well thought out, perfect for dense cities with narrow streets and limited parking.
@stevencowles8419
@stevencowles8419 2 жыл бұрын
I can see these being commonplace in some environments quite quickly and like that it is not over engineered, arguably the failing of some of the competition. Probably most flexible with the box body as that would open it up for a small side loading capability. There are probably also some trades who could use a vehicle like this in a city environment with a customised box.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct Steven! Musoshi vehicles are designed to respond to the needs of different industry verticals.
@rosserobertolli
@rosserobertolli 2 жыл бұрын
I still believe in cargobikes for this type of last mile. The Musoshi slurps 7x (!!!!) more electrons for the same distance. For instance the GoLo (at fully charged live) also has 1500L cargo space but only uses 18Wh/km, not 120 (like the musoshi). I think we need to step away from the thought that making everything electric will solve all energy problems and start taking efficiency seriously as well. I'd rather see a Wh/km figure (like we always did with gas cars) instead of a range figure. Just as an exampe, the hyped up Arrival van has a whopping (supposed) 391Wh/km efficiency, more than triple the Musoshi's and 21 (!!) times that of a big cargo bike like the GoLo. Just imagine needing 21x more solar panels for the same driven distance. And yes, for bigger cargo you need bigger vans but for parcels you just need different routes (flower petal pattern) to do it with a smaller vehicle and a couple extra stops at the depot
@nocapproductions5471
@nocapproductions5471 2 жыл бұрын
Well Musoshi is ready to buy, very comfortable and looks good. I think its aimed at wealthier companies
@Flielow
@Flielow 2 жыл бұрын
Technically in the US, the three-wheel version IS a bike.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 2 жыл бұрын
Yes EVs are not created equal, Wh/km is crucial in comparing them. So far politicians and car manufacturers alike think "electric" = no emissions. Otherwise, comparing different types of vehicles, which likely has not been through the same testing cycle to measure consumption is difficult, also this carries 400kg of cargo, so I presume the stated consumption is for more than the load of the cargo bike? But you are right 120Wh/km is more than the typical (Chinese) small ordinary EV, especially when you consider the low top speed.
@DiscoverJesus
@DiscoverJesus 2 жыл бұрын
Add a pop up roof to the midi or maxi and that would be a fun project to develop as a mini camper
@sausagefingers714
@sausagefingers714 Жыл бұрын
yer or even for extended storage space if dealing with larger volume low weight items like amazon parcels etc
@joehodgson2815
@joehodgson2815 2 жыл бұрын
These are the vehicles that really affect our lives: the ones that get right into the hearts of our cities (and if they're I.C.E. then they make them horrible!) Not convinced this truck has enough clearance to make a sharp turn up a sudden gradient narrow street or poorly placed kerb, but if it can truly deal with (all of) Istanbul, then that's a magnificent start!
@bernardcharlesworth9860
@bernardcharlesworth9860 2 жыл бұрын
British rail in the 1960s used a three wheeler last mile two stroke. So this really makes sense
@mattdavies3023
@mattdavies3023 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting vehicle. From a design point of view I would have thought a sliding door would be most beneficial to delivery drivers who hop in and out all the time. Also if you’re making a vehicle small enough to potentially park end on on the street, a sliding door would be far easier to use in those situations.
@tommasoterzano5180
@tommasoterzano5180 2 жыл бұрын
Costs way too much
@dajfiel2
@dajfiel2 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommasoterzano5180 is a sliding door significantly more expensive than a hinged door?
@mralistair737
@mralistair737 2 жыл бұрын
@@dajfiel2 yep. and makes what you do with the back less customisable and more complex.
@capitalinventor4823
@capitalinventor4823 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. One of the points of the video was that the vehicle could park between two other vehicles along the street. If someone parked the vehicle like it was in the video they would not be able to exit with the swing out doors. At least one of the doors should be sliding, at least as an option, to enable such ability.
@PRH123
@PRH123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, having a cargo door only at the back is a negative. Ideally the driver should be able to enter the back of the vehicle from the front, and move in a central aisle between racks on either side. That way the order of delivery of the packages can easily be set during the loading of the vehicle, which takes place during the sorting process at the station. If one loads everything thru one rear door, then you would have to at the station complete the sort, with the load on the floor next to the vehicle, and then load all the packages into the vehicle in order of delivery, which is double handling of each package and more time.
@samjohnston4945
@samjohnston4945 2 жыл бұрын
Great 3 wheeler. Love the simplicity. Excellent episode.
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it’s SO cute. Lovely van too!
@gerry343
@gerry343 2 жыл бұрын
In your limited test, it seemed very stable on corners with very little roll. Being short enough to reverse up to the pavement would make it very easy to deliver bulky goods without getting in the way of passing traffic. It looks a great little vehicle, ideally suited to the job.
@BrettCooper4702
@BrettCooper4702 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the same video, it had huge roll when turn at the start of the video and that was on flat ground with no wind.
@bikecommuter24
@bikecommuter24 2 жыл бұрын
I work part time as an Auto Parts Delivery Driver this would absolutely work for 9 out of 10 of my deliveries, usually small loads and most within a 10 mile -16km round trip. I
@markussantos6164
@markussantos6164 2 жыл бұрын
A nice replacement for our tricycles here in the Philippines. If there is gonna be a pax version of this vehicle. Good job musoshi!!!! 👏👌👍💪
@roboko6618
@roboko6618 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a return of the Scammell Mechanical Horse. The more things change, the more they stay the same :)
@jamesellis7448
@jamesellis7448 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Piaggio Ape (three wheels and similar lights, face) and I can validate that kids love it and wave often. :-)
@benpaynter
@benpaynter 2 жыл бұрын
Watching episodes like this makes me feel positive about the future........ then I look out of the window and see 3 Range Rovers picking kids up from the primary school I live near...... Nice while it lasted!
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 2 жыл бұрын
Primary school???!!! Bloody sauce! These vehicles are designed for yummy mummy ladies to drop off their offspring at prep school and later boarding school. Suggest you telephone police next time and report suspected stolen vehicles. Outrageous!
@benpaynter
@benpaynter 2 жыл бұрын
@@t1n4444 lol.... I should have been more specific, two were Evoque's 😂
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 жыл бұрын
That's a seriously cool little van - would be fantastic to see it here in the UK
@markharmon4963
@markharmon4963 2 жыл бұрын
I never watch. Always listen....while working. I am a handyman and am in tears because someone finally listened.
@steverichmond7142
@steverichmond7142 2 жыл бұрын
I worked with one of these in 1964. It was called a 3 wheel milk float - and it was made in GB.
@simoncavill
@simoncavill 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a part-time postman currently driving a Fiat POS diesel van driving 20 miles a day and walking 10-13 miles. This is way too small for an average day's route given the number of parcels we handle. It also needs a set of side doors so you can organise and access your load as you go along.
@MaikTerOriginal
@MaikTerOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
UPS seems to think differently. They’re already using it in the real world. Just saw it yesterday.
@simoncavill
@simoncavill 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaikTerOriginal yes, but couriers only deliver parcels to certain addresses. We cover every house (in my case 465) in the same route every day. I know Royal Mail is trialling Peugeot van EV’s in some cities and I can’t wait to ditch the diesel!
@shoutykat
@shoutykat 2 жыл бұрын
That would be why they have the larger variants with a configurable box on the back. They have way more storage and they're customisable.
@grahamguest142
@grahamguest142 2 жыл бұрын
Jack would wet himself with enthusiasm when he tries one of those!
@accesser
@accesser 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great, I can see this being ideal the right sized city's Always happy to see such innovation
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton 2 жыл бұрын
2:22 It is refreshing that front end design is happy looking, rather than the typical slant-eyed snarling grille as seen on all fords and many others for example - and to appeal to kids like that is great! Nice practical round lights design. The happy leccy tuk-tuk is here!
@robertwolf9380
@robertwolf9380 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I would love to see any vehicle that would scare kids away from it, better they keep a safe distance than try and hug it at 30mph!
@rorychivers8769
@rorychivers8769 2 жыл бұрын
There always has to be a contrarian, no matter what the topic is....
@mickinmerton8053
@mickinmerton8053 2 жыл бұрын
We have milk delivered by 'Milk and More'. A couple of years ago they upgraded from the old traditional milk floats to modern electric vans. We no longer get disturbed by the clatter of the milk float; now its the slamming of the door! I guess its safety regulations which stops these vans going door-less like the old milk floats. I suggest an external electrotonic control rod, so the van can be guided externally without the driver having to get in 🙂
@onurkoprulu1827
@onurkoprulu1827 2 жыл бұрын
Simply clever! Great idea, so proud 👏🏻🚚🇹🇷
@UnusualPete
@UnusualPete 2 жыл бұрын
This car is like the child of the Reliant Robin and the Nissan Cube, and I love it! If I had a business, this would be my first pick for delivery vehicle!
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 жыл бұрын
These are ideal for last mile! I fully expect to see these everywhere in 5 years especially at the right price. Only like 5% of actual trips need more range than this thing offers and there's plenty of other vehicles for that! India for example is already converting their fleets of TukTuks's to electric just to save $$ this year due to fuel costs.. So definitely this company is onto something!
@BrianM0OAB
@BrianM0OAB 2 жыл бұрын
Del boy would love it, providing he could tap into some free electric, no income tax, no vat.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the slots for a fork lift on the "midi"? Forget "loading the van" You load the "box". The "van" pulls in, A forklift swaps the boxes, the van pulls out. . Barcode on the van. Barcode on the box. Load logged into the box.
@dajfiel2
@dajfiel2 2 жыл бұрын
The only downsides I see to this element are; increased weight, less time to rapid charge the vehicle However, if the battery was part of the bottom of the box then when the van comes in for the next load it would automatically get the next charge in a matter of minutes
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice platform for a mini camper. Some solar panels on top and you can drive one day charge for 4, then drive again.
@gmy33
@gmy33 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the spirit !!!!
@mikedunn7795
@mikedunn7795 2 жыл бұрын
This would be a good vehicle for retirees to scoot to the store for groceries. Small enough to fit in any garage, and which could be fitted with a much smaller box.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 2 жыл бұрын
It would also be a nice little municipal work truck with a pickup bed on it. Or it could be a good vehicle for redistributing bike share bikes around the city.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Already working on it! 👍
@electroplank587
@electroplank587 2 жыл бұрын
I love it, it's make sense, and every city should start adopting them. I'd love to see my Amazon packages delivered via one of these rather that at larger traditional van / car.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
🤞🤞🤞
@moony2703
@moony2703 2 жыл бұрын
One of those ideas/videos you keep coming back to.
@piconano
@piconano 2 жыл бұрын
They make the cutest micro campers! Adding a trailer to make even more room if needed...
@petervarley3078
@petervarley3078 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought too! It is 287cm long so long enough though the bed would have to extend into the passenger compartment. No to the trailer though since backing up becomes so hard.
@vfr800ch
@vfr800ch 2 жыл бұрын
My dad had a converted A35 van back in the day, put seats in the back to escape car tax in the UK. Seems to me, as manufacturers are seemingly refusing to build decent affordable small electric cars, that maybe this is something that could have something similar done to it.. I don't like three wheelers especially but as a low speed city car, why not..
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 2 жыл бұрын
That looks about the right size for a pallet or palletized bin so the load could be made up while the driver is on the road with the previous load. (Reminds me of the ethos behind Scammel Scarabs).
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the midi It has slots for a forklift. If you had release pins, you could swap the whole box for a pre loaded one.
@WhitstableMusic
@WhitstableMusic 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a modern milk float, the whole of the uk used to depend on electric vehicles that were almost identical in capabilities. We had this and we’ve lost it!
@amipal24
@amipal24 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say exactly the same thing.
@sreville
@sreville 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like it, I LOVE it! So cute and capable 😍
@MrJames_1
@MrJames_1 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a couple of hooks on the back wall of the cab. A no-passenger seat option, maybe central steering? I'd also be concerned about frontal impact protection but looks nice and roomy in there. .
@mraidymaddful
@mraidymaddful 2 жыл бұрын
You could make a great little single person camper out of any of those 3 models.
@TevvaTrucks
@TevvaTrucks 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear the impact of new technologies to improve driver experience overall in our cities - easier driving, less tiring, comfortable, cleaner, easy to maintain, great agility and handling.
@ronaldusher39
@ronaldusher39 2 жыл бұрын
So many 3 wheelers seem to be appearing! Losing one wheel makes things so much more efficient
@Skinksalladen
@Skinksalladen 2 жыл бұрын
This looks very very similar to the "pods" by the swedish company Clean Motion, which you see in a few Swedish cities as taxis/delivery vehicles from the company Bzzt.
@TUĞRUL1995
@TUĞRUL1995 2 жыл бұрын
Bu kanalı hep izlerim ilk defa istanbul dendi ama gurur duyamadım çünkü her açıdan Türkiye açlık ve sefalet içinde.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Daha çok çalışacağız ve düzelteceğiz. Bir tane Türkiye var!
@mauricewatts2380
@mauricewatts2380 2 жыл бұрын
I have got absolutely no use for one of these. But I want one.
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 2 жыл бұрын
This is like the spiritual successor to Reliant's girder-fork vans.
@mrjed6912
@mrjed6912 2 жыл бұрын
It is isn't it
@0ctatr0n
@0ctatr0n 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a conveyor belt as the floor in the back so you can hit a button and roll the boxes at the front to the door, no more bending over. Also handy for packing, stack to the roof and push the button to roll it toward the front of the vehicle
@drxym
@drxym 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going to Lanzarote and seeing that some restaurants used Renault Twizys for local deliveries. The resorts are maybe 5 miles long individually with low speed limits, and some places like Puerto Del Carmen have some really pokey side streets with little free parking so it seemed like a really good idea to use a tiny electric car. I'd see this sort of van serving a similar role. I doubt it would be much use in a big city like London, but in a town with narrow streets and so on it could be really useful. Not sure about the 3 wheels though especially for something with potentially unstable loads in the back.
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 2 жыл бұрын
So comments are : it’s too big ; it’s too small ; it’s too slow ; it doesn’t have pedals. The promise of EVs before car companies got to them was that the basics bits were really simple, a battery, an electric motor and some power electronics. One moving part. Any decent engineer in a shed could build whatever they wanted around that core. This is that. One item customised to do one thing. The design is an old and successful one both in electric and ICE a small three wheel truck. Within its limits it does its job. If you want something outside those limits get another engineer in another shed to design something else around around a battery, motor and power electronics.
@AaronSpielman
@AaronSpielman 2 жыл бұрын
Mushoshi should be talking to the USPS for postal delivery.
@888johnmac
@888johnmac 2 жыл бұрын
nice idea .. i used to work for a parcel company & our Edinburgh depot was in a business park about 20 miles out of the city centre ( funnily enough 3 of our competitors were in the same park .. mainly because anywhere closer to the centre was ridiculously expensive ) .. so i guess for this to work land prices will have to change
@lucienromano3493
@lucienromano3493 2 жыл бұрын
Three wheelers with the third wheel at the front are fundamentally less stable than those with it at the back, but being an EV with its batteries in the floor must make this one good enough for the job it has to do. I mean, no one is going to set a lap time at the Nürburgring in it (I hope). Pity they didn't put the driver in the middle, though, because then their weight would be symetrically over the front wheel, plus LHD & RHD versions would not be needed.
@BrettCooper4702
@BrettCooper4702 2 жыл бұрын
totally, driver not in the middle is a fail.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Driver in the middle was something we have considered a great deal. But we wanted to have a vehicle where a passenger can also be seated given that our EV's are designed to fulfill the needs of many different industry verticals. On our vehicles, the passenger seats can be folded or totally removed to gain additional cargo space for the driver. Plus to have the feeling of driving a car rather than a Tuk-Tuk was very important to us. That's why we chose to have a left or right hand drive design.
@jumpferjoy1st
@jumpferjoy1st 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. A good idea that looks like it has been designed right. I wish them every success.
@johanwejedaldesign
@johanwejedaldesign 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece of design!
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for leaving the handbrake scene 😉
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
yeah right 😂😂
@crankcase75
@crankcase75 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Cushman Truckster used by the NYPD for parking enforcement - I don't think you strictly need 3 wheels for maneuverability, just look stuff like Japanese Kei vans or the Daihatsu Midget. What it does do is sidestep a lot of "car" regulations in the EU and probably other places by being classed as a trike/motorcycle but not having the speed/weight restrictions of l7e class "heavy Quadricycles" but still drive able on a car license. It's an odd loophole, but a useful one, though to be honest the "loophole" shouldn't be a loophole in the first place and maybe we should ease up on the legal requirements for small four wheelers.
@richardshillam7075
@richardshillam7075 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic solution for city deliveries, I would like a head support though.
@KalpeshPatel78
@KalpeshPatel78 2 жыл бұрын
The doors need to open hinged backwards for better ergonomics. Its just better when you have delivery papers or small parcels or a tablet in your hand with the delivery list. Plus getting in and out is much more convenient.
@sanjuansteve
@sanjuansteve 2 жыл бұрын
They should make mini taxis from the same platform and size as well. Where I live in Manzanillo, Colima, México they have regular taxis and also small motorcycle 3-wheeled taxis too that all need to be switched for electric.
@schoonerthedog
@schoonerthedog 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, I don’t like that the driver door doesn’t completely slide out of the way though
@esk8jaimes
@esk8jaimes 2 жыл бұрын
Never have I wanted a van so much in my life... Move over Citroen Ami (£6000-8000+ in the UK) Seriously, how much would a privately-owned one cost?
@starbornthing8317
@starbornthing8317 2 жыл бұрын
Their website suggests a 10% saving over an equivalent van. That'd be something like a Nemo or Bipper. They sold for c.£13k, so sadly the Ami would still be cheaper. Though I do agree that this looks much more fun and it makes a tonne of sense as a little runaround (especially if there was a window in the back)
@fullychargedshow
@fullychargedshow 2 жыл бұрын
The price of the Musoshi Mini is $15,500 ≈ £12,700. But large fleet orders will likely have scope for negotiation!
@jur4x
@jur4x 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure we won't see them in Latvia. Our last miles are pretty long. I was looking at a package tracker the other day. Driver left depot at 7am, and by noon was over 100 km away. Got to me at about 6pm. I tried to calculate total route based on points I saw on the map. Got 500km total. Few companies got themselves EV vans, but so far I only seen them around Riga area.
@AtillatheFun
@AtillatheFun 2 жыл бұрын
Reliance robin comes to mind. This is why a lot of modern companies are choosing to put the single wheel in the back and the two in the front. This improves stability.
@philipdriss6999
@philipdriss6999 2 жыл бұрын
Vay be! Bu kanalda Türk markası görmek de varmiş :) Honda EV concept sempatikliğinde bir a segmenti araç yapip salsaniz piyasayı sarsarsiniz beyler. Honda conceptteki hatları seri üretimde koruyamadı malesef ve çok büyük bir şansı tepti. Fiyat olarak da o minimalist ruha ters. Yeni elektrikli beetle rüzgarı estiremedi dünyada henüz hiç bir firma. Hep güç gösterisi, lüks vs peşindeler. Hintliler veya Çinliler yapmadan siz yapin mütevazi bir icon beyler! Yolunuz açik olsun...
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
🖖💪
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 2 жыл бұрын
Small three wheeler delivery vehicles were a common sight sixty and more years ago in the U.K.
@rudolmeyer
@rudolmeyer 2 жыл бұрын
milk float 2022.... but seriously, I like the idea, and think it should do well.. nice work Musoshi
@MrJE728
@MrJE728 2 жыл бұрын
Should also check the Swedish company Clean Motion. Saw something very similar, however with a solar roof that charges the van. Pretty cool stuff!
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi There 🖖We are also working on the implementation of these panels on top of our EV's as well. This will be an option on our vehicles. However just to be clear, the amount of energy that can be created from a panel of such size would make a minimal charging affect on our batteries.
@MrJE728
@MrJE728 2 жыл бұрын
@@musoshiEV hey! Interesting, I know from the Clean Motion Re-volt marketing material, their pod could add around 100km of driving per day (600w of panels should be pretty significant during the entire lifespan of the vehicle). 😊
@freeform33
@freeform33 2 жыл бұрын
Love the manic grinning 👍🤓
@Nicholas-f5
@Nicholas-f5 2 жыл бұрын
Cargo bikes work in cities too! 👏
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 жыл бұрын
Given this is a three wheeler that means you can drive it with a motorbike licence in the UK. I'd rather be protected from the rain thanks :P
@Chimel31
@Chimel31 2 жыл бұрын
These mini vans don't really serve last mile delivery, it's more for urban services and inner city deliveries. Amazon uses full size vans that are maybe 4-6 bigger than these. But these mini vans are great for collecting the small litter bags that are all around town, to bring a team of gardeners and their tools to the municipal park, for a baker to deliver fresh bread to nearby restaurants and stores (more like "first and only mile delivery" then), etc. Actually, full size vans are great for Amazon, because it costs them just one driver and one van for the day, but not so much so for the customer, when parcel tracking tells you that the van is _en route_ since 10AM but delivery happens at 6PM, ironically more time than the overnight shipping over hundreds of miles took... Reducing the van load (and van size) by half could be win-win for both Amazon and the customer. There is also lots of room for improvement for loading and unloading the van. The Amazon process is still pretty much manual, with a dozen or two of cuboid tote bags to load one by one by the driver, and then all the oversize parcels are loaded separately. I imagine the Rivian vans are designed for automatic loading in mind, like the depot prepares palets the size of the van box in advance, then each van can be loaded under two minutes as they come, with the palet properly sorted out by delivery address, small and oversize packages alike. Next step will be some robotic assistant to prepare the packages while the driver drives to the next address. It better be fast, as the next address is usually the next door in apartment blocks! This alone would cut delivery time much more than instant loading of the whole truck content. All this is overkill for these mini vans where every package is pretty much accessible. By next century or so, we'll probably switch to an underground delivery network, as cities can't expand horizontally beyond their city limits, nor upward for letters, package or shopping deliveries. Adopting a baby with next day delivery will never have been so convenient!
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 2 жыл бұрын
We live in a world where asking the people who use something every day for advice is radical!
@gordon1376
@gordon1376 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the first Reliant three wheel vans from the 1930s.
@mbuyukkaya
@mbuyukkaya 2 жыл бұрын
Great job NetKargo, you made us proud
@piconano
@piconano 2 жыл бұрын
India has been using tuk tuks for as long as I can remember. It works and it withstood the test of time. However, 50Km/h prohibits them from freeways where the minimum speed is 60Km/h. They should've gone to 80Km/h top speed. Then again, it would roll over easy with a sharp turn, when top heavy.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын
The other option is the Archimoto (but it's expensive)
@Raghavendrabsrg
@Raghavendrabsrg 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to 2022, World! India has been using Affordable Electric Vans like this for last mile delivery from last 5 years atleast. :) Thanks to Mahindra and alike!
@Skiridr22
@Skiridr22 2 жыл бұрын
That’s suitable for local mail carriers 😎 launching frm a local mail depo in our area.
@heaslyben
@heaslyben 2 жыл бұрын
I love it! I'd love to be able to use one myself!
@mrpants8976
@mrpants8976 2 жыл бұрын
I still feel like all these boxy vehicles would do well to add some solar on the roof to supplement the battery
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын
The weight penalty probably negates the advantage.
@mrpants8976
@mrpants8976 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 there are those smaller thinner panels, not as effective as the ones used on a house, but I still think there is a variety that could be useful on top of a vehicle
@GregVidua
@GregVidua 2 жыл бұрын
Not efficient enough.
@GreenJimll
@GreenJimll 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Not to mention that in the dense urban environment that these are aimed at the vehicle will often be in shade.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 sad truth but totally right :)
@AaronHendu
@AaronHendu 2 жыл бұрын
Used as a normal commuter vehicle, you could cover the entire roof in solar panels and you'd rarely have to plug it in. You could probably put 500w or so in solar on it. Which might be enough to get the average person through their daily amount of driving.
@ChristianrnstrupRasmussen
@ChristianrnstrupRasmussen 2 жыл бұрын
Great product I can easily imagine them Copenhagen.
@cjhedberg83
@cjhedberg83 2 жыл бұрын
the US should use these for mail trucks seem to be about the size and range
@jhytry
@jhytry 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this type of delivery vehicles and delivery system works in China since many years. I am happy to see this implemented in Europe as well.
@musoshiEV
@musoshiEV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jakub, the only thing Musoshi Pop-Up mini model has in common with Tuk-Tuk' mostly used in India, China and Far East is that, they are both 3-wheelers. Due to European and American road safety measures and standards most of the vehicles in this category you would see in Asia or India could not be registered to be driven on the roads of EU or America. Which is why our vehicles are over engineered compared to our siblings in India or China. The over all engineering, safety measures and features on Musoshi EV models far exceed the standards used in other parts of the world. We hope our version of the 3-wheeled delivery van will be accepted by users in Europe and Americas as their new delivery EV , delivering within the mega cities and to suburban zones.
@jhytry
@jhytry 2 жыл бұрын
@@musoshiEV good to know you have improved safety. I wish you success. In China electric 3 wheelers and small EV vans are norm as last mile delivery since many years. This type of delivery in itself is very impressive. Most of 3 wheelers in China are registered as microcars/ scooters and have little safety but also restricted speed. Regulation is different so it allows it. And it works well. You made it adapted to EU and US, that is great and hopefully is adopted by major courier services.
@loriallen67
@loriallen67 2 жыл бұрын
Great show. Have you checked out Arcimoto, the Eugene, Oregon (US) based company and their three wheeled platform that has a “deliverator” version? It’s an Even smaller vehicle for highly localized deliveries.
@Azmodaeus49
@Azmodaeus49 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Amazon UK e-bike delivery cargoes in London
@laynetravis
@laynetravis 2 жыл бұрын
I worked as a courier and this have all the right ticks
@zumuvtuber
@zumuvtuber 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine turning one of these into a tiny electric camper! 🤩
@OhFishyFish
@OhFishyFish 2 жыл бұрын
With this top speed it would be perfect for blocking the roads and causing massive traffic jams, just what the camper drivers love to do.
@zumuvtuber
@zumuvtuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@OhFishyFish Funny you’d say that, because from my experience the people usually blocking roads and causing traffic jams are: people who don’t know how roundabouts work, SUV drivers who constantly switch lanes because they have no idea where they’re going, ricers with their crashed BMWs in the middle of the road, farmers with agricultural vehicles much larger and slower than this, or exotics drivers who have to raise their bumpers in order to clear literal pebbles 😂
@OhFishyFish
@OhFishyFish 2 жыл бұрын
@@zumuvtuber I don;t know where you drive, but feel free to visit Scotland during the holiday season. In front of every 2-mile long column of cars moving at 25mph there's an elderly couple in a camper.
@zumuvtuber
@zumuvtuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@OhFishyFish Oh I see! I appreciate you sharing your experience, mine is from driving in Portugal and it seems very different indeed. I have visited Scotland before but I’ve never experienced that issue so it’s nice to know your perspective. Cheers!
@OhFishyFish
@OhFishyFish 2 жыл бұрын
@By The Way Overtake a 2 miles long line of cars, because morons in the front haven't learned it?
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