Finally an Answer! Which one is Better?? Rolex Submariner vs Omega Seamaster Starbucks Seaweed watch

[@mrlong6267]

I own both watches and honestly I always reach for the Seamaster since it has more wrist presence, I feel safer wearing it without fear of being robbed, and it brings out my inner Bond during moments of stress. I save the Rollie for special occasions but when I wear it…doesn’t excite me like the Seamaster. The Rollie makes you feel a bit like a snob…lol

[@HawaiianHorology]

seamaster for the win!

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

You know what nobody has ever asked me wearing my omega seamaster 300 M or even my planet ocean? “Is that real“? I used to get that question all the time with my Rolex submariner Kermit. I always tell people if you’re a watch person and you want an accurate timepiece that’s not gonna lose time that can last forever then youbuy an omega. If you want to look rich or want some kind of investment where you store the watch in a safe and never wear it buy a Rolex. The last thing I want to add is I would never buy a Rolex unless you buy it from an authorized dealer. They are so perfectly copied now that unless you remove the back and actually have an expert looking at the movement you’re not gonna know if it’s fake. There are movements that are so well replicated can’t even tell the difference. You don’t want to drop $10,000 or more on a fake Rolex. That’s the beauty of Romega you’ll know right away if it’s fake.

[@victormelendez1074]

The Omega all day

[@HawaiianHorology]

great choice

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I have owned multiple Rolex and today they don’t hold a candle to what omega is offering. I’ve sold all my Rolex watches except for my Daytona, and bought a omega sea master planet ocean and honestly the planet ocean blows the submariner right out of the water. It holds time better it looks better I like how it rides on my wrist better. Omega coaxial movement is incredible. I also picked up the Seamaster 300 M with a leather crocodile skin band with a black dial black face and I switch between this and the planet ocean every other month. They are just incredible watches and they’re half the price of the Rolex.

[@SIZZO76]

Everything you said is true

[@HawaiianHorology]

great choice I really want a planet ocean too

[@sirdanieliii9567]

There is a reason why they are half the price.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

@@sirdanieliii9567 explain why then? Don’t make a comment like that and not back it up.

[@coldworld5]

Objectively I prefer the Omega. Just a better looking watch for me. But I understand why people would pick the Rolex.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I agree the omega is an objectively more interesting watch and with a couple of changes it could be perfect!

[@rons9067]

I own several versions of both watches but if I had to choose one out of all of them it would be the sub all day every day. It’s fit, comfort, style and movement are a bit better in every category. Nothing against the Omega but the sub is just a step above.

[@HawaiianHorology]

well said!

[@fj7509]

The Rolex is thinner, more versatile, has a better bracelet, better bezel, and arguably a more timeless design. The movement has longer power reserve like you said, a better accuracy rating (5 second window vs 6 second window), higher beat rate, and all without needing to use a more complicated escapement. That is EXTREMELY impressive. The Seamaster is a glorious watch, but it is not better than the Submariner.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I totally agree!

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I respect your opinion but to me you just spit out marketing material that Rolex uses. I have owned multiple Rolex watches over the last two decades and hands down the Daytona is their best watch. I think the Rolex Daytona is one of the best watches ever made. With that said, Omega especially for the price blows Rolex Submariner out of the water. My daily wear is a Omega Planet Ocean because it is everything you said about the Rolex but is true about the Omega. Rolex DOES not keep good time. This 5 second window is mute due to the fact most Rolex's lose time. Every Rolex I own even the Daytona loses time. It drives me nuts. At the end of a month I am 5 minutes slow and I have been slightly late too many times to meetings that I stopped wearing Rolex. I sold all of them minus my Daytona because they just don't keep good time. That's where Omega's co-axial blows Rolex out of the water. Omega guarantees you will never lose time just gain it. My Planet Ocean gains about 2.5 seconds a day putting me at about 5 minutes gained at the end of the month. I much prefer that. Really, the only reason you would buy Rolex is to look rich or as an investment which is one of the reasons I kept my Daytona white dialed Rolex. I can tell you this never once has someone asked me about my Omega's, "Hey, is that Omega real?" I cannot tell you how many times someone asked me about that when I wore my Rolex watches. Cheers!

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

@Watch_for_me I can play that game too. George Washington wore a rolex.

[@OkanCanK]

I believe if we could erase the brand names from the dials, noone would go for Rolex. It was an iconic design back then. However now? Omega is way better. Movement is also more accurate. The only 'cons' omega has i think the bracelet.

[@HawaiianHorology]

Great point I wonder which one I would choose if history wasn't involved

[@SIZZO76]

BRACELET IS ICONIC 🔥🔥🔥

[@baegyu6715]

Great point now that you mention it. I imagined putting down SEIKO on both of them and looked at from different perspective. I am a rolex fan but Omega does seem to look better under same logo SEIKO

[@MauriceDay-em1xy]

Only thing with this SMP might be the size. I'll probably buy it anyhow but what still holds me back is the thickness, 50mm lug to lug and 42 diameter. 39, 40 or 41 and I'd get it and green and white straight away

[@JacReviewsStuff]

I have a green seamaster and on the waiting list for green submariner. This video is perfect for me. If u still have both watches... Please make more videos featuring both

[@HawaiianHorology]

Thanks I will try to make more!

[@sirdanieliii9567]

The fact that you are on a waiting list for the submariner says everything. There is no waiting list for any Omega watches.

[@JacReviewsStuff]

@@sirdanieliii9567 I paid deposit at an omega boutique then waited a month for new stock

[@NCSheriff7]

@@sirdanieliii9567😴

[@carlkim2577]

You're one of the few channels i trust for honest reviews. Great job!

[@HawaiianHorology]

Thanks I really appreciate it!

[@yamiii1776]

I have the Seaweed green Omega and love everything about it. Bought it with bracelet (the non taper doesn’t bother me too much) adds to the charm. I own a Sub no date and adore it! With that said, each have their beauty, I’m not a fan of the Starbucks Sub and the waitlist associated. IMHO I think the mesh bracelet makes this Seamaster Pro a tad too busy.

[@HawaiianHorology]

When I owned the blue seamaster I had the original bracelet but didn't give it much of a change because I bought the rubber strap but maybe I should have.

[@SIZZO76]

I agree. Bracelet is ICONIC

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

For the price and quality Omega offers you just cannot beat what they are offering today.

[@SIZZO76]

@@SuperSnakePlissken TRUTH 🫡

[@hugohernandez3651]

I totally agree. I like to refresh my collection on a regular basis. Unfortunately, with Omega, you will lose money. A lot of money if you don't do your homework properly.

[@HawaiianHorology]

Yeah my next Omega will be at a discount!

[@56_mini55]

On a modern watch wearer, a bezel to me, is good for cooking. Other than that it looks like a fidget spinner but to each their own. I like the omega. To find out rolex was supplied by eterna for movements surprises me and makes me wonder how in house their stuff is nowadays.

[@HawaiianHorology]

wow I haven't heard that before thanks

[@camilofernandez4088]

Everything in a Rolex is in-house, whereas Omega source their bracelets from china… not even a close comparison in terms of build and quality.

[@sirdanieliii9567]

I have never heard that before. Where did you get this information?

[@rossbrooks950]

I just really love this green! Submariners are beautiful watches, but this Seamaster is on my wrist literally every day. Maybe it’s a honeymoon stage thing, but I think this is my daily wear now. 🤘🏻⏱️👀

[@HawaiianHorology]

Great choice!

[@JacReviewsStuff]

Sapphire case back means a lot to me I want my skin to be touching the sapphire all the time... Because sapphire is a crystal and it channels our energy and chakras and chi. Lol

[@HawaiianHorology]

I can feel the energy in your comment lol

[@MrMatt1923]

I owned a ceramic no date sub and a few omegas at the same time. I sold the sub and daily my SMP still.

[@HawaiianHorology]

great choice!

[@kofiofosu9051]

Omega since it costs less. I have a submariner and a 42 mm planet ocean. My PO was cheaper and at least as good. Omega 2254 is even cooler and way cheaper than the submariner. All of these watches have specs that non of us really need.

[@HawaiianHorology]

Spec wise I totally agree all of these watches are over build for what it is commonly used for

[@pas0003]

Great review! I've never owned a Sub, but the bezel action on the Smp300 is certainly subpar for the price. Even the Bb58 bezel action is quite a lot nicer. Anyone arguing that SMP300 bezel action is as good as Rolex is simply being dishonest. Design wise the Rolex is definitely more classy and Omega more interesting. I have to agree that older Subs look way better than older Seamasters. Partially because they don't change their designs as much. Omega needs to stick to their guns and slowly iterate and improve the parts that are lacking. To me, the bezel action is number one on the list. To its benefit, Smp300 is certainly more interesting including the caseback, which is just a giant slab of nothingness on the Rolex, which I think is actually really disappointing. I personally love the wave dial, the crown and crown guards, fonts, logos, especially love the hands and I do actually like the bracelet for its balance and the fact that it's not yet another generic oyster bracelet, which has been done to death. 1-2 mm of taper would make it look more refined though.

[@HawaiianHorology]

Great response I actually do think that the SMP is much more interesting and I do like a lot of it's features but something about it doesn't keep me interested in the watch too long. I've actually sold that piece and moved on but I did really enjoy my time with it!

[@julioerodriguez6097]

That happened to me (caught in both positions) a few times with my Omega Seamaster Aquaterra GMT (ref 231.13.44.52.04.001). I though I was going crazy since only happens once in a while, but is real and is somewhat annoying. Great video and Thank you!

[@HawaiianHorology]

hmm maybe I should look more into it if it's a real problem thanks

[@bri3520]

Great review - i have the Seamaster in green and want to purchase either the mesh or rubber strap with the deployment buckle - what would you choose and why - many thanks

[@HawaiianHorology]

If you already have it on the OEM bracelet I would get it on the rubber strap for more variety, I feel like have the OEM and the mesh would be too similar. Thanks for watching!

[@MrDucatiti]

People will notice the Starbucks more, others would be clueless what the Seaweadmaster is.

[@HawaiianHorology]

That's true as popular as Omega might be it's not really a household name

[@Raierview]

Who wants a household name?@@HawaiianHorology

[@maromorostar6621]

Why do you want people to notice it, do you seek attention or validation? Wear it because you like it, anything else doesn't matter. Rolex is also a watch that screams rob me, everyone knows their design from far away. I like the stealth of most Omega watches. And they are great watches.

[@thomasrudder9639]

That’s why I prefer my seamaster

[@seanhickling7340]

I really dislike that corporation bus green on the Rolex. It looks naff. Plus the Rolex is rediculously overpriced.

[@HawaiianHorology]

👍

[@JacReviewsStuff]

I don't like the Mercedes hand =( Op41 hands are perfect

[@HawaiianHorology]

I love the mercedes hands!

[@ThisIsDavesGarage]

Rolex. I love Omega but that gen Seamaster is too big and busy. The bezel is hard to grip, the bracelet does not taper, the movement is more difficult to service by any watchmaker. The Sub is a classic and will never go out of style and will always retain value. If it was 40mm or 39mm I would pickup a white Seamaster in a heartbeat.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I do believe that the seamaster needs a huge update. That should include a new bracelet and I think that a 40-41mm would be pefrect I hope they update it soon

[@fj7509]

@@let0atreides To be fair, Rolex can go 10 years without needing a service. It's cheaper than a Rolex service but not by much. maybe 100 to 200 dollars max. It's still an in house movement with specific parts that only Omega uses, just like a Rolex. I haven't needed to service either yet, but I'll let you know in 10 years when I get the invoice hahahahaha

[@SIZZO76]

@@let0atreidesThank you

[@mommi1979]

Value retention is for flippers. If you buy what you really like, it shouldn't matter. If you buy to give it a try, ok I could understand.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I feel like the only way to really know if you like a watch is to have it for a while.

[@mommi1979]

@@HawaiianHorology yeah sure, if you're at the beginning of your journey, absolutely, bc you have to build up your tastes, that's why it is a good idea starting cheap. But if you're at your twentieth watch, well, if you still don't know if you'll like that watch after a few glances, and having it on your wrist a few times, then you're not building up any experience, you're just consuming, how you would do with a pizza.

[@mommi1979]

Ok, maybe value retention is a real problem for compulsive buyers., who necessarily need to flip. But again, compulsive buyer = consumer, not committed enthusiast.

[@JohnConnor636]

I held a couple Subs today, i wasn't completely sure about the weight and quality.

[@HawaiianHorology]

In you opinion what watches have you held that felt better quality than a sub?

[@JohnConnor636]

@@HawaiianHorology honestly, this sub was from 2001 supposedly, It almost felt too light and cheap I was wearing my SMP. This is a reputable jewelry store in my area so I doubt it was fake, but I'm starting to wonder

[@nicholas802]

Next time check out the subs newer models 2014-2024​@JohnConnor636

[@SA17579]

Can't stand the cyclops. I had a previous version no date and the lugs of the maxi case dug into my wrist. 41mm is meant to be better so I'm looking at that. However, the price point of rolex is putting me off for what you get plus the issues with the newer movement.

[@HawaiianHorology]

so far the movement has held for me!

[@JacReviewsStuff]

Just shake your seamaster. Don't manually wind lol

[@HawaiianHorology]

lol

[@superakuo]

I walked in an AD in Vegas with no purchase history and asked for a watch and they basically just turned their head away! I thought it was a bit rude atleast try to sell me something else !

[@HawaiianHorology]

How rude of them! I hope I have more luck!

[@MosnaRawr]

No helium escape valve and a calmer dial would be a win.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I feel like the new tag aquaracer is like the seamaster without the valve. very nice in my opinion

[@franzb69]

just goes to show, if you like the omega, buy it used.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I agree!

[@aaronming8466]

Nice seamaster. This british green is the only seamaster color that speaks to me.

[@HawaiianHorology]

The green is by far my favorite I used to have the blue which was also very nice but I didn't like the red text on it

[@aaronming8466]

​@@HawaiianHorologyfunny cause the red text was also the reason that put me off the blue! Great vid, cheers!

[@HawaiianHorology]

thanks so much!

[@Beck-Stein]

Sub is way more classic.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I agree

[@robitobi9740]

Omega has much ,much better movement .

[@HawaiianHorology]

true!

[@TravelandLuxury1]

Omegas movement isn’t better. Rolex just don’t need to play the metas game. Rolex is more accurate, beats at a higher rate with a larger power reserve.

[@martina6212]

⁠@@TravelandLuxury1on paper that is true but the 8800 and 8900 hold much better time then Rolex. It does have a better power reserve but I prefer to have a watch keep better time.

[@hemantishwaran5741]

Rolex looks like an old man’s watch. Bezel sound has nothing to do with build quality what an oversimplification. Crown is smooth as butter no issues. Omega wins hands down for price AND availability.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I'm an old man so the Rolex is perfect for me lol

[@fj7509]

I’ve owned both for a few years now... The bezel action is far superior. That shows which company put more thought into designing it and which company threw on something that works. The enamel vs platinum inlay means the platinum inlay IS higher quality. The platinum inside the Rolex bezel does not fade over time, so it is equal to enamel in this regard. The Rolex has a much better power reserve. It is thinner and slides under a cuff with ease. The clasp is not as bulky, and using the extension system does not lengthen the clasp. The Omega is not even more accurate. It is 0/+5 seconds per day. That is a 6 second window. The Rolex with +2/-2 is a 5 second window. Don't forget that the Rolex is more accurate with the use of a traditional Swiss lever which is way more impressive than the co-axial. The Rolex movement will beat at 8hz while the Omega beats at a choppy 7bph. This is something you can see throughout daily wear. The Omega hands will never be as smooth and they don't even trade better power reserve for it. The SMP bracelet is lackluster and pulls hair. It also doesn’t have any taper. Your only alternative without raising the price is the rubber strap which feels a lot better but doesn't have a deployment clasp, it's a pin buckle. The deployment clasp is more expensive. The Rolex has white gold hands, the Omega does not. Most importantly, the skeleton hands lume has a design flaw. The lume on the green minute hand dies far before the blue indices do, so if this were to be used as a divers watch, you wouldn't be able to time intervals correctly. The Rolex is more refined and most who own both agree with this. I can actually wear it on my smaller wrist and it doesn't look like a kid trying to wear a G-Shock.

[@hemantishwaran5741]

@@fj7509 my seamaster gains a second each day - it rocks and I didn’t have to beg some salesmen to sell it to me

[@maitrehg]

​@@fj7509Amen 🙏

[@abhishekpandey3577]

Rolex submariner is perfect watch no doubt

[@kappc2014]

I’ve had the seamaster, I own the sub, enough said

[@HawaiianHorology]

Exactly I sold the SMP a couple of months ago

[@IrishScribbler]

I have a Daytona, I have a Submariner and I have a Seamaster. Guess what? Nobody cares, just like nobody gives a shit about your pointless comment.

[@krazokid19]

I'll go ahead and settle this one for you guys. Rolex Submariner hands down is slightly better in almost every way. You will definitely enjoy the Omega but until Omega stops putting AR coating on the outside of the crystal, they won't be able to compete in my opinion. I owned an Omega Seamaster a few months ago and within 3 months the AR coating on the crystal had a bunch of visible scuffs/marks on it whereas an Rolex I've ever owned never had any such issues. Also, my seamaster gained about +1 seconds per day where my Submariner only gains about half a second a day. Not a huge deal but it still counts. Now if Omega ever stops putting that SCRATCHABLE ar coating on the outside of it's UNSCRATCHABLE sapphire crystal Rolex better watch out.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I can see why you are mad about the ar coating why would they do that!?!?

[@krazokid19]

@@HawaiianHorology It's not the end of the world, but it really bothered me lol

[@ryanconklin1440]

The hands were a non issue

[@HawaiianHorology]

I think it looks good

[@sirdanieliii9567]

Omega makes great watches, but they are not the same build quality as a Rolex.

[@HawaiianHorology]

exactly

[@IrishScribbler]

How would you know when you clearly wear fakes.

[@superakuo]

What do you think about the blue seamaster

[@HawaiianHorology]

I think it's awesome and the blue matches perfectly with the LV outdoor messenger bag!

[@SIZZO76]

GORGEOUS WATCH 🔥🔥🔥

[@tngchinghwa]

3500 offer is crazy lowballing, omega lose very slight value because they constatnly raise price every year, so technically u can sell at the value you bought at

[@HawaiianHorology]

I hope that's the case!

[@DexterAlenko]

not true

[@sirdanieliii9567]

You’re right about price and availability. But there is a reason for the lower price and availability. Not many people want an Omega watch and the resale value is terrible. So, if those things aren’t important to you then great. They will always be available anywhere you look. I think you are confusing classic design with old man. The Omega watch is very trendy and right now, but the Rolex is a classic timepiece that will never be out of fashion.

[@HawaiianHorology]

thanks for the insight

[@sirdanieliii9567]

How is +5 seconds per day better than +-2 seconds per day. Just by your tone, I see you are biased towards Omega and you’re trying hard to make it seem more desirable.

[@HawaiianHorology]

just my opinion

[@Leventgursoy11]

I totally disagree with your comments. You are prejudice and make nonsense comments.

[@CoreyJohnson-c5m]

Go with planet ocean.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I was looking at the 39.5mm version and almost pulled the trigger! I really hope they update that line soon

[@josepauloneuparthvieirafer4449]

The Sub always be The Watch. The Seamaster will never reach that iconic status.

[@HawaiianHorology]

True it's hard to bean an icon

[@ЮраЮнкевич-щ5ы]

Rolex of course, no questions.

[@HawaiianHorology]

good answer!

[@Dr_LK]

dude, put a soft surface on top of your wooden table! every time you put down your watches and the make a hard noise i cringe... dont you care about them?

[@HawaiianHorology]

dang is that how I'm getting all the scratches on my watch lol

[@sirdanieliii9567]

People haven’t seen it because no one wants it.

[@HawaiianHorology]

true

[@TravelandLuxury1]

Rolex might have baggage but they don’t play with consistency. They are timeless. You buy a Rolex and 20 years from now it will still be in style. People forget the facts. Rolex is more accurate with -/+ 2 seconds Rolex is also anti magnetic Rolex is thinner at 12.3mm The proportions are crazy perfect 70 hour power reserve The bezel action is NIGHT AND DAY shows their attention to detail.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I agree 100 percent about the bezel action!!!

[@musiclover4311]

He valve, a pretentious, useless feature, is complete deal breaker for me. No Omega. Intensely dislike it because of He valve.

[@HawaiianHorology]

The HE valve is the most controversial part of this watch

[@sirdanieliii9567]

It sounds cheap.

[@HawaiianHorology]

it really does

[@びよーんゆずぽん]

Unbelievable to compare omega to Rolex! It’s not even close! Rolex win oevery category

[@HawaiianHorology]

I don't think they are that far apart

[@maitrehg]

Rolex by a mile. The SMP has a goofy design with its superfluous crown and weird handset. The bracelet is extremely lacking in refinement. Too wide, almost sharp, and the piece that comes out of the adjustment isn't even identical to the rest of the bracelet! But the worst is undoubtedly the action and sound of his bezel. Worse than any Chinese one from Ali Express.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I agree about the bezel they need to really improve it. I wonder how the planet ocean sounds

[@darksideka]

Most Omega's are quite ugly but this one is on Quasimodo/Elephant Man levels of hideousness when compared with the rugged elegance of the 126610LV Rolex Submariner

[@HawaiianHorology]

haha!

[@jxhnnyolives6125]

Lol bro! You’re a loser!!

[@maitrehg]

What a goofy design ! Butt ugly.

[@Crazy_Joe_Davola]

Sub.

[@HawaiianHorology]

great choice!

[@Big_Dumb_Animal]

Omega. Rolex is overpriced, and ugly.

[@HawaiianHorology]

🤭

[@Big_Dumb_Animal]

Very true, and a good reason why watches are poor investment devices (outside of some rarities, like most things). I buy Omega because I like them and I wear them. I also don't buy new. Let someone else take the initial value hit. I look for deals and values.

[@HawaiianHorology]

I've learned my lesson too Omega and Tudor I'm buying preowned

[@SIZZO76]

@@HawaiianHorologyTUDOR is a one TRICK PONY AND A FAKE ROLEX😂😂😂

[@sirdanieliii9567]

@@HawaiianHorologyTudor is owned by Rolex.