Which Rolex Submariner is best, Kermit or Hulk?

[@BarkandJack]

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[@user-su1xk3mv2b]

Hey I got offered this new Kermit at the AD and couldn’t make the trip because of work :( I told them skip me on the list and call me for the next one. what are the odds they call me for the next one. I guess I’m a vip at this ad

[@ozxx]

Hulk's green dial is something special. I'm not against the Kermits, but once you've seen it in person, Hulk is the one and only choice.

[@stuzaza]

yup

[@yoroshikune08]

For some reason, I still like HULK. Happy Holidays and take care. Merry Christmas and have a nice year.

[@roymorrison6713]

All the Hulk fans are going - "don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" 😂😂 Have a good Christmas 👍

[@anthonysmith2982]

This is not a personal dig at anyone who owns a Hulk, but even if I had the $ - which I don't - I wouldn't pay retail for it. It's just a not for me. I find it too gregarious, too flashy. I just happen to prefer something a little more discrete. 🤷‍♂️

[@owenmccord5078]

@@anthonysmith2982 There’s nothing wrong with that. We don’t all have to like the same thing. I agree with you, btw, re the green. I like the OG Kermit best of the 3. My personal favorite green is the Harrrods Tudor.

[@anthonysmith2982]

@@owenmccord5078 I'm exactly the same! Infact I just went back and re-watched the Adrians vid on the Harrods Tudor. That's the one that I would still own, if I was fortunate enough to be in position to choose. I happen to be more drawn to Tudor as a brand also. Part of my preference for the understated I think, and I just happen to prefer the brands design language. I'm a fan of the Ranger and Pelegos (in black) too.

[@golfbuddy1969]

Bravo

[@owenmccord5078]

@@anthonysmith2982 Got on the list 2 days after he released his first Harrod’s Black Bay video. Unfortunately all of my peeps who were usually in/around London were back in the states when I got the call in July (pandemic and whatnot.) The consolation prize is that a content creator I follow ended up with it. Silver linings I guess.

[@ScarozaSKIP]

That Seamaster looking good on the wrist!

[@bkzlatan]

on a green strap. ! but the guy still crying n' hating the green as a b... trying to convince us he doesnt like the hulk

[@briers9]

Got to be the hulk for me. I love a quirky dial, wether it’s colour, sunburst, meteorite or enamel. Bought mine back in 2014 when nobody wanted one, mainly because it was green. Healthy discount too. As long as you stay true to your tastes you won’t go wrong.

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

Horid square looking maxi case thats not in proportion to the bracelet, sold mine, it wore top heavy on the wrist too

[@JustWatchreviews]

Thank you for the "lighten up" comment - couldn't agree more!

[@BarkandJack]

Haha. Thanks for watching buddy.

[@cbfbaritone]

I’m definitely going for the Starbucks/New Kermit. Green is my favorite color, and that green and black combo is killer to me.

[@mash7745]

100% agree with you

[@Bisley1]

I think the old kermit is nicer, but given the choice between gray market price for the old one and retail for the new one… i ordered the new one, when it was released. Still waiting for it😃

[@redwing2002]

Quite agree about the original Kermmie, it looks retro and classy.

[@1018Frankie]

Of the 3 watches I prefer the Omega Seamaster that you are wearing, it’s gorgeous!

[@jimlittle5769]

There you go.

[@seattlegrrlie]

Yup, I couldn't stop looking at it either. Absolutely the best of the bunch

[@wuyeah1980]

Original, is the original. Gotta respect the history and what it represents BUT Hulk is the better looking watch out of the three. My opinion of course. Used to own Kermit too.

[@halua1969]

Absolutely agree on the analysis. People hyped up Hulk too much, I personally never thought it as much classy as the Kermits. The new Kermit (Or the Starbucks, I think it is more accurate to describe the color) is the most beautiful of them all, and to complement that with the upgraded movement, it's a clear winner.

[@toproll8514]

I find the Hulk with more personality and something of its own, and special to own. It is the one and only LV with a beautiful sunburst dial.

[@tomkhong9828]

a sub trying to be date just

[@mrdisco99]

Yep... I'm definitely one of those guys who just like watching well made videos about nice watches with no intention of actually buying one.

[@BarkandJack]

Glad I’m not the only one. I do the same with cameras. I’ll watch an in-depth review of a camera with zero intentions of buying it.

[@davids2540]

Own the Hulk, wouldn't swap it for the other Kermits but suppose everyone is different 🙂

[@golfbuddy1969]

I have a hulk and wouldn’t want the other two. I wear it almost everyday and fits fine with any outfit or occasion. I love the super case too, and prefer the bracelet over the delicate bracelet of the Kermit, and the proportions over the slimmer lugs and wider bracelet of the new Kermit.

[@allainbourque]

I had the feeling his view was influenced because he had the original Kermit. I also think he did not like the maxi case because he has a smaller wrist. I’ll stick with my Hulk. Maybe be my point of view is clouded also🤷‍♂️

[@golfbuddy1969]

@@allainbourque I’m sure his influence was because of what he owns. Funny but I never liked the Kermit. The bracelet sucks. And the green on it is more lime colored...a yellowish green. It isn’t a pleasant shade to my eye anyways.

[@cirrusmckinney]

Please remember that when the maxi case first came out most said it suited the "tool" watch persona that the watch portrayed. Now everyone has suddenly decided that we like delicate lines once again. People are so fickle.

[@ChromeXuGames]

@@cirrusmckinney It's hilarious. I'm honestly offended at the "maxi hate" that's emerged since September 1, 2020. Months ago these same people were offering us 2x retail for our watches lol. If I wanted small lugs, I'd wear a Day-Date. The new Sub is, quite frankly, a disaster. It's a maxi case hack job that would've garnered the same response now had *it* come out in 2010. Big lugs are for tool watches. Rugged look, protection, and lots of polish potential.

[@martinharrison4245]

The hulk for me , most interesting sub ever made. That's why they are going for over double what they originally cost, which is madness

[@yatinkheti2427]

They are going for that price because of mere hype. Rolex is probably the best at marketing. Compared to other watches Rolex falls short in almost every aspect.

[@djjr9803]

I agree with your conclusion that the Hulk is not in the same league as the old or new Kermit. In fact, the green dial makes it unique and puts it in a much higher class than the Kermits.

[@thesilveraura2177]

For those (like me) that have no issue with a vibrant green dial, what Rolex did with the hulk's dial is a work of art. I still haven't seen a video that truly captures its beauty.

[@tarawaukeri8928]

@@thesilveraura2177 Bruce Williams shows an excellent example. 👌

[@Racerchicken21]

The Hulk is my pick and the most interesting by far as Rolex is usually seen as conservative. Most people who know Rolex but don't know much about watches can't believe my Hulk is a real rolex. Also I love how the dial changes in the light while black is just...black. It can go from bright green to grey to black depending on lighting scenarios and I actually find it plenty versatile. I can proudly say I loved it before it was hyped...unfortunately couldn't buy it until the hype was quite a bit higher, but still extremely happy with it. Was between that and the batman. Would also love a batman someday

[@techroam]

When’s the omega seamaster white dial review? Can’t wait for it!

[@BarkandJack]

That’s going to be the next big video. Should be don’t early Jan. 👍🏻

[@techroam]

@@BarkandJack Looking forward to it! Literally waiting for your review before I give the green light to purchase it!

[@BarkandJack]

@@techroam it honestly is a brilliant watch. I bought it because I thought it was cool, but it genuinely hasn’t left my wrist. I wore Kermit today because I thought I should, not because I wanted to.

[@springthyme501]

@@BarkandJack Glad to see you're enjoying the seamaster. Even I didn't expect such a positive response to it. Honesty the white seamaster and 36mm explorer is such a killer two piece collection.

[@christhorne7565]

Harrods BB is the pick of the lot

[@kenzzs]

Agreed it is a very nice watch, and it would be perfect if it is just a touch smaller / slimmer.

[@trymbakk9542]

Agreed.

[@davymac9866]

Just a shame it has that Harrods Elitist branding in my humble opinion but I do love that more organic green tone 👌

[@ghupft-wie-ghatscht]

Oh man the Hulk’s green face should be a Pro not a con by far the best out of those 3

[@WonderofWatches]

Hulk is my favourite sub of all time, would be the first watch I’d pick out of these 3. Find your choices interesting

[@seang2822]

Have you compared the color of the new green sub vs 2020 green sub?

[@TheRunningManZ]

You have such conservative taste in watches, you could predict this outcome before the vid was made. I love the Hulk myself, the new Kermit is a Hulk with the thing that made it special taken away. To each their own of course!

[@andrewd101]

well said

[@WonderofWatches]

Agree 100%, hulk for me is the best sub ever made, dial is stunning

[@Schittybill]

Agreed, but the new one has its own thang. Your dayz vids are OG

[@TheRunningManZ]

@@Schittybill the new case shape is no doubt better. The lugs looks much better. It’s just a bit dull IMO. I really like the no date and the two tone bluesy of the new ones. They stand out to me. The smurf and the hulk were much more exciting than “everything’s a black dial.”

[@rchstokes9064]

Totally agree....A black sub with a Hulk Bezel

[@SimonClarkson-o3m]

I love my Kermit and walked in to a shop and bought it in 2010 brand new. When you could do. I even got a discount. I paid cash 3.5k.

[@marcus-44]

Cool comparison video but I totally disagree. I fell in love with the beautiful green gold dial of the Hulk since it came out and bought one. I would like to upgrade to the new movement, but the change in dimensions in combination with the standard black dial just makes it boring in my opinion.

[@kevintoth5365]

Agree. The Hulk stands out. Other 2 is not worth the investment. Nice looking but boring. Maybe for half the price.:)

[@andreaiacolina]

This is a very interesting comparison. I've never had these pieces in my hands, so I cannot say which one is my favorite. But to my eyes the old Kermit is the best proportioned of the three.

[@JB-xt3ly]

Have the Hulk and love it, I also like the discontinued Kermit.

[@acorntree404]

The hulk is by far the best one.

[@tobytayles1]

The Kermit is class unlike the hulk which is just obnoxious but that’s just my opinion

[@stevepsichalos9505]

Quite right, the Hulk is not in the same category as the other two - it sits well above them. :-)

[@jedtaylor5816]

Absolutely

[@mannycalavera2335]

I think that shade of Green is pretty easy to combine. I can see myself wearing the "New Kermit" as an every day watch. It goes well with all neutral colors I wear (black, white, brown, grey etc.). But I also don't think I would have a problem combining it with blue. Sure, it can look a bit wacky with warmer colors if you do not want to look like a tropical bird. But I am guessing few people wearing these watches are wearing bright orange or pink. And if they do, it would not even clash. You just need the style and personality to pull it off. And people confidently wearing bright orange and pink might just be able to.

[@andrewdolling5669]

All fab... but if beauty is anything ... the green on green hulk is sooo gorgeous... face colour is memorizing and changes in different light..

[@gI-jl3lq]

The Hulk is the better looking watch.

[@sheldon6531]

Hulk > Kermit ..................................... > Cermit. I like the hulk because of the uniqueness. In a world full of black and white dial watches, a green, radiant burst dial is fantastic. If you spend that kind of money on a watch, it should look special. The hulk does. I love the Kermit. I really enjoy vintage looking watches and the kermit fits that bill. Looks great and functions great with a vintage vibe. The Cermit, to me isn't a winner. It's like when a car company re-releases a popular car from their past. It never captures the original feel. To me, it's just a sub with a green bezel and I'd take the classic black in that case any day.

[@barrymeaden5712]

The Hulk is amazing with the green sunburst dial. I own one and when you wear it on a sunny day OMG. In my opinion I think one of the reasons they discontinued the Hulk is the green sunburst dial is very difficult to manufacture. Great video as always Baz

[@fez877]

Not necessary the case. Then bluesy had a sunburst dial and they will be my next watch. I have a feeling Rolex will bring back the Hulk in a couple more years.

[@BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather]

I love the dial as well, but it wouldn’t be any harder to produce than the blue YM, or skydweller, or chocolate DJ and probably others.

[@anditsP]

Hulk is by far the most interesting and dynamic dial. You can keep your boring black dials that never play with the light :)

[@krishnar3493]

You killed it, man. One of your best videos 🎉

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks a lot Krishna.

[@EM-sz8mb]

Sold my Hulk for the exact reasons you mentioned.

[@emersonc2136]

I have the Hulk but I would pick the new Kermit because of the contrast in color and more ergonomic case/bracelet. The original Kermit’s bezel is a scratch magnet. It shows aluminum silver underneath when scratched. I don’t think it would be pleasing to see with multiple scratches over time.

[@emersonc2136]

@@thegorn Finally have both

[@kevinong8005]

Taste is always tricky and often subjective IMHO. Maybe that’s why we have buyers and sellers or bid & offer in our world of endless products and commodities, etc. One man’s meat is another man’s poison? I had the classic black sub…sold it and bought the Hulk. Still loving it. Fortunately we all have different tastes for things…cannot imagine us all having the same girlfriend, wife, car, house….😱watches.

[@Brice-j1x]

My favorite is the New Kermit, the Starbuck, the Cermik 😜

[@donatokeller1761]

Bark & Jack in 5-8 years: „The Hulk is one of the most recognisable and most amazing vintage Rolex to have.”

[@impexRQ]

The Hulk will always be the OG in the submariner line

[@EMKWANREVIEWS]

Awesome video. It’s weird... I thought the new Kermit was bland but since I got one (retail) I’ve fallen hard for it! 💚 The case and bracelet really changes how it fits on the wrist and the more mature refined black dial with green bezel is also special.

[@BarkandJack]

Na man the new Kermit is epic. I love it. Good work getting it at retail as well. 👍🏻

[@preciousmetals168]

funny that - you didn't like them and thought they were bland when you couldn't get one, but the second you could, you suddenly liked it after all.

[@EMKWANREVIEWS]

preciousmetals168 thought it was bland based on images online. Never had the chance to hold it in the hand and that’s crucial when buying a watch. I also feel for retail and close to retail the subs are great. For the market value I don’t think they’re so great because price DOES have a factor in liking or disliking something.

[@jorgedepayns]

@@BarkandJack I got the first one to arrive at the AD ( I wasn't a VIP client, had in fact only bought one watch from them). Didn't like it, too bland as Emkwan says, and I thought I really would.

[@s.j.c.5821]

I think the Hulk is the best of the bunch!

[@WonderofWatches]

Same as that

[@tomkhong9828]

lol

[@bkzlatan]

of course it is ! by far the best ! he owns the old stuff.. what would expect him to say

[@sgt10p]

I agree 100% with your thoughts. I had the OG Kermit and now have the new version. The Hulk never looked 'right' in my eyes.

[@mattstevens1820]

Love the fact you can type Kermit, Pepsi and Batman into the Rolex search bar and the watches pop up. I just tried it as well :)

[@jh-il5sb]

as an owner of a 114060 sub no date, i have to say the hulk is the more dynamic of these three watches with its stunning green dial. the other two are just subs with green bezels. a YTer named "watch eric" did a video where he replaced the black bezel with a ceramic green one and i realized the kermit is just that......a sub with a green bezel.

[@gmotionedc5412]

The original is by far the classiest!! The hulk is fine with me.

[@Cam_LDN]

I agree, I've never liked the aesthetics of the Hulk - I passed on the opportunity to buy one in 2015 and instead opted for the 114060. I never regretted the decision.

[@MrHCars]

We're forgetting one... the Harrods BB!! 🤓

[@dongodlyduffy776]

While the others are more classy and subtle, I feel that anyone who actually BUYS a hulk is someone who has multiple others in their collection already to wear on a daily basis. For this reason I like the Hulk more the sunburst is awesome to me

[@Neel-1]

How times have changed. I literally walked into an AD I've never been to today and was offered the Starbucks.

[@robertn3121]

Hulk. The face is a stunning one off....

[@fontyyy]

I would now swap my Starbucks for a Hulk.

[@impexRQ]

@@fontyyyguess not hulk owner will ever flip a Hulk vs a starbucks anyway 😂😂😂😂

[@fontyyy]

@@impexRQ the used values would suggest you are right. Chrono24; Starbucks average price £12300 Hulk average price £15500 So the Hulk is STILL up near double it's original MSRP.

[@bobbender5858]

Watches don’t have faces.

[@robertn3121]

@@bobbender5858 yeah, I know, dials

[@jeanlefranc3817]

These green expensive watches you cannot buy brought to you by Chronext.

[@yvelf]

WOW! This was a ballsy vid! I bet many rolex fan boys will rant about you not liking the hulk. I too do like the “new kermit”

[@TheJohnnyViewer]

As much as I don't mind all green in Hulk I hate that in certain light it looks faded and bezel is not matching the dial

[@bullionseconds]

Cermit continues to drop in price... as the Batgirl did

[@robertsullivan4773]

As it should it just a Green bezel I have the Black and I'm thrilled.

[@richardfletcher8719]

Of the watches here the Hulk most appealed to me. That sunburst dial is gorgeous. Close second was the white dial seamaster. If I owned those two my watch search would be over.

[@andrewdolling5669]

Ohhh.. and swimming with the Hulk is the best.. it captures the light above fabulously (if deep irrelevant but shallow amazing..)

[@BERETTA9mmUSA]

I enjoyed the video...... Thank-you Sir. Beretta Sr.

[@martinstephenson4311]

The original Kermit for me, I love the slender lugs on the smaller case but would have the modern bracelet fitted.

[@greggeorgiou52]

Do like them I prefer them with no date window

[@MultiShice]

Hulk is my favourite but not worth it for grey market prices... Trying to get the Cermit through my AD lol

[@paulconradfrank8730]

3:31 When turning the crown counter clockwise direction, in a Sub w 3135 movement, the hands should move counter clockwise direction as well and vice versa. Is that different in a 3235?

[@darylakamario]

Yup, new movement moves the hands in the opposite direction.

[@heathwoodruff6975]

Thanks for this comparison.

[@williamrizzo1285]

Green just happens to be my favorite color, if I purchase the green dial Omega Aqua Terra.

[@sheldon6531]

Love that green Aqua Terra!

[@stemplar]

1. Hulk 2. OG Kermit 3. New Kermit and if you are looking to buy 1. OG Kermit 2. Hulk 3. New Kermit. OG price has flattened but will start going up again next year same as the OG Pepsi’s have started to go up again, Hulk price will come down slightly but as more of them get snapped up, prices will continue to go up, New Kermit only just released and has at least another 5-7 years of production left, put ur name down at an AD and play the waiting game....

[@lewiscirne546]

Hulk because it was my first luxury watch and my wife (who knows nothing about watches but neither did I really when I bought it) picked it out because she loved the color and it stood out. That was 2013, and years later it's still my favorite in my collection for sentimental reasons. Who knew it would become a collector's piece? Lucky me.

[@mikeysanchez4567]

I’m with you! It’s my first and only Rolex!

[@mu11ett]

New Kermit is stunning, on another thought, what are your thoughts on the GMT-Master 11’Sprite’

[@seanlinnan2719]

I always loved the hulk. The dial is my favirite part. I wish the dual and bezel matched more exactly, but i like how loud it is. If you want underatated, modest beauty, the black sub is clearly the way to go.

[@BuyVWRD]

I got a 2007 Kermit today. Great watch

[@Watch4Me]

I was totally thinking, Adrian how the hell did you get your grubby hands on 3 LVs??

[@swpsacs1]

Circling back to this video 2 years later and honestly it has aged very well! With the continued difficulty of obtaining a new Kermit (Starbucks or whatever you call it) and the crazy pricing of the Hulk (which I personally prefer just for the all green dial...to each there own, right!?!). The 16610LV original Kermit seems like its coming in as the goto for for anyone wanting an obtainable Green Rolex. Pricing, while no where near MSRP, isn't unreasonable and it's obviously the "original". It also has a charm of no ceramic on the bezel and wears smaller than the 126610LV, which is the direction the watch market is trending now. I personally find green easy to wear and combine that with a black dial, this is an easy daily.

[@shateri7]

You forgot to mention the most important difference which is the size. As the size of the Starbucks is 41mm compared to 40mm kermit & hulk

[@swampThaang]

I have never been a yellow gold Rolex guy, until I saw mock-ups of the Hulk in yellow gold. It really pops. I hope the "leprechaun" becomes a reality one day.

[@fesayeni]

HULK HULK and HULK....... the Black Dial is on so many Rolex sports watches, the Green dial is iconic, unique and a rarity, kind of like the green second hand in the Air King, my other Fav..... Thanks for the great Vids.

[@rich2kite]

Maybe it is because I have the Hulk but it's the blockier 40mm oyster case I like the most.

[@peymankarami4649]

Great video thank you Adrian, this video helped me to buy my first Rolex. Bought the new kermit though at the end and love it so much 😍

[@OperationNonsense]

Of course hulk is best. Sun burst dial is always better than plain black, and ceramic is superior to aluminum bezel. Simple choice, no brainer.

[@billsaunders5478]

Or buy a Harrods bay 🧑‍🎄

[@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju]

but those are not easy to get either...

[@billsaunders5478]

@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju but still more accessible and affordable than any of the 3 featured 💚

[@jtex1013]

"or maybe you're one of those guys who likes watching videos about nice watches." *pause*. *subscribe* *resume play*. Currently debating kermit v batman. Loving all your content. really well done.

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks a lot James 🙌🏻. I had exactly the same debate with myself. Kermit won for me. But both are great.

[@davidm4099]

I feel before the Maxi cases, Rolexes subs were perfect in terms of proportions

[@tylersaltmarsh9025]

You ought to do this same video with your seamaster 300, the flat dial ceramic, and the OG bond 2531.80.

[@Gnomeshoes91]

Wheew, that transition at 2:48 was FIRE. I personally adore the Hulk, I love the sunburst green and dislike the little 'dimple' that forms in the black dials around the base of the hands.

[@gusgornall]

Great videos, managed to buy a hulk just before discontinuing the model as a investment to sell on But having owned and worn it I’d have to really have to need to sell it to part with it . The Hulk is a watch that has presence yet is completely comfortable to wear , I love it.

[@robrs8631]

No, I am not really thinking about sending some shady reseller big bucks and get a preowned watch wrapped up in cheap plastic. I prefer a real shopping experience in a real store with real watches with a bottle of champagne.

[@BarkandJack]

Yeah I can’t stand the cheap plastic wrapping either. I see many ADs do this with Pateks. It looks terrible!

[@Another_User_Name_]

I have the Hulk so I'm partial to it. The Kermit's black face is boring, like so many other submariners and sea dwellers. If you're going to go green, go all the way!

[@evansong8068]

In my humble opinion, green does not go well with black. Just saying........

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

Mmm. My opinion is completely opposite yours. Opposite in order too! Green bezel is sweet, but that green sundial always catches eyes from other watch people. Kermit is just last on my list. It's all about opinions.

[@bertraminc9412]

My favorite part of your video is the classic light meter on the left!

[@FirstDonkie]

Or, if you don't have or want to spend that much money on a green watch: the Alpinist SARB017 is quite green as well. I bought that one and a Guzzi with the money saved. Happy on two fronts!

[@Romio666]

Was the Starbucks or the Hulk released for any other anniversary, such as the 60th anniversary ?!

[@MrConsens-JamesHess]

I bought a Hulk LV Bezel for my 116610LN watch new from an AD! So now I have both the traditional Black & Green variations at my disposal with the same watch! Costs some real cash for the LV Bezel, but it’s worth it in my opinion, without having to upgrade to a Cermit/Starbucks…

[@villagesautodetail]

I also have a 2009 Kermit and love it.. HAD in 2018 116610LV Hulk and thought that I was so smart and sold it for a profit, only to realize that every day I have regretted it. It is a haunting regret that plagues the mind. Nothing like the feel of that super-case with that sunburst green dial. Now, like politicians after election day they are nowhere to be found unless your willing to shell out a small fortune. **UPDATE AS OF 1/2023 after a small fortuned shelled out, I now have a Hulk again and after watching this video a second time I have to still disagree with you on your opinion that this is not on the same level or classy. Its as beautiful as I remember, but then again I love the obnoxious bright green dial.

[@ABCdotcom]

What size is your wrist, if you don't mind my asking. Mine is 6.75-7" and was wondering if the new SMP would wear too big...

[@AndrewsOpinion15]

great rolex submariner watch what one is best kermit or hulk ?

[@inspectorBob88]

I see Kermit as “the”submariner. Always loved it flipping National Geographic magazines looking at the Rolex ads as a kid. With my eyes closed though, I see my ridiculous dream yellow gold Hulk on my wrist. The most Rolexy watch I could imagine having lol

[@americanjedi5721]

Hulk SMASH Kermit!