FINALLY! Brutal Reliability & High Prices Cause END OF PRODUCTION For Jeep & Dodge

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

No one wants all the tech in modern cars. It's too complicated, to expensive and useless. I don't want screens, I don't want the car to drive itself. Make the cars reliable, cheap to run and repair. I don't need 400whp to commute to work. I don't need 10mpg to commute to work....neither does anyone else.

[@pablomalaga4676]

The screens are sh3t but the 400 whp Is pure pleassure

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

I guess it would be sacrilege to suggest that Henry Ford Sr. knew what he was doing. Among many things, he made cars affordable and easy to own. Stellantis could do the unthinkable and make Jeep a basic utilitarian division again. Base model would be the CJ-5, with the bare minimum done to make it legal to sell in the U.S. And the top model would be the Jeep YJ which could be updated; again to the minimum requirements to sell it.

[@carminealiffi9738]

Why don't they get a CEO that understands what people want? Just go back to basics and make a dependable car or truck that doesn't look like a spaceship with more high tech expensive garbage to break. I used to always have new top of the line vehicles but lately I am just not buying.

[@Sturmgeist702]

I agreed with everything you said until the 400whp. Gimme some speed.

[@mikeporro3311]

They are done unreliable crap ​@@BlackPill-pu4vi

[@HoodsGlobal]

****When vehicle prices start competing with home prices, I will say the layoffs are just beginning.

[@ECPP]

Yes layoffs are only going to get worse yet

[@knockout77]

Perfectly said

[@asadb1990]

When are houses available for 40k or even 100k.

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@asadb1990 Put "inside america's cheap old houses" in the search box at the top of this page. That's a mansion in WV for little more than 100 grand. Which one would you take, the car or the mansion?

[@metalmike570]

Then a good design would be customized vans, like in the 80's. Captains chairs and maybe a small living room - shag carpeting. And some kind of bed, a flip down.

[@partyanimal2017]

Most cars and trucks have too much tech which many customer don't want. That bumps up the prices significantly.

[@richh1576]

TECH on vehicles. Just think about how many of your older computers are still WORKING !!!!!!

[@57054]

American auto manufacturers need to get back to basics. There's too much overhead and time spent on changing up models too frequently and adding too much technology and electronic assist gadgets. Too many complications added to a product just increases failure rates and overall costs.

[@SigFigNewton]

The electronics are not the problem. See, for example, the enormous profit margins of Tesla compared with Ford and GM

[@geraldscott4302]

@@SigFigNewton The "electronics" are 90% of the problem. My biggest issues with them are that they run on software, have 24/7 WiFi connections to God knows who, have elaborate built in spy systems with cameras and microphones that watch, listen to, and transmit everything you say or do over their WiFi connections, and have built in "self driving" TRASH technology that can literally take control away from the driver, and make the vehicle do whatever IT wants. Brakes that apply themselves, steering wheels that turn themselves, cameras that determine whether you are "capable" of driving or not, and can be hacked and controlled from pretty much any wireless device, by anyone, including the government. They can shut the engine off and lock you inside. They can make the vehicle go where they want it to. They can literally use your own vehicle (which actually isn't yours anymore, even after you have paid that insane price) to kidnap you. And then you have those huge, UGLY black ghetto reehuums with no tires that not only look disgusting, but are completely worthless on actual roads with bumps and potholes.

[@DHW256]

@@SigFigNewton Is there an itemization of Tesla's profits? Something about being a mercantile welfare queen. Get rid of the government interventionism, then let's talk about "profitability".

[@SigFigNewton]

@ sure. In a few years when the incentives are gone I encourage you to note how much more profitable Tesla is then than Ford or GM

[@geraldscott4302]

@@SigFigNewton EVs are dying, quickly. Tesla will go away unless they switch to REAL cars.

[@KNIGHTOFELEMIA-i7i]

Who wants two mortgages? One mortgage for a house which continues to build up value, and the second mortgage for a cheap car that loses value the moment they hand you the keys.

[@ECPP]

That’s the way many people are going g these days

[@Rasasrich1]

Love this style Mark keep it up!

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much. This is our classic Monday morning news segment. Regular updates for the automotive space.

[@deweycheatemandhowe2446]

Electric Jag=Digital Rolex 😢😂

[@asadb1990]

Also they are notorious for electrical issues.

[@JasPlun]

Mark your videos are getting so much better good going man love how you put this in sections so we can skip things we already know and want to jump ahead to parts we want to see. Good Job man!

[@jonathantheyorkie]

Just for comparison: You can get 2 Lexus LS 460s with all the options (yes, even executive seating) and with only 70k miles for the price of one jeep wrangler and get way more miles than the brand new jeep.

[@MichaelSchwab-nk4rm]

LOL. Holy Shit

[@davidanderson8469]

Both devour gas.

[@Cerby1979]

Maybe if Stellantis doesn’t sell vehicles at prices equivalent to a 2/2 condo or townhome, then maybe things will get better.

[@regnar19881]

Jeep Wrangler has been overpriced for years. Jeep in general has questionable reliability, lackluster mpg, overcomplicated powerplants / drivelines, and too techie systems. Take the Grand Wagoneer for example. Stellantis gambled corporate greed over customer satisfaction and loss.

[@ECPP]

I deed

[@mikeporro3311]

100k for a wagoneer, lol!. Now if they could replicate an old Wagoneer tit for that, that may be worth 100k.

[@LouisF38]

Great video, like your new sort of newsroom style format too, yeah these vehicle manufacturers brought all this trouble on their own heads.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing. Yes these car makers dug their own graves indeed. Thanks for the feedback on the channel. I felt like I needed to bring some modern hot topics to the forefront.

[@rocked30]

If the car companies don’t stop this extreme price gouging America is going to wind up like Cuba where people drive around classic cars with a million miles on them. Stop the greed and the car market will be fine.

[@shanevanc]

Just watched Autoline and data shows only rich are buying new cars.

[@geraldscott4302]

I already have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis with 389,000 miles, and when the engine or transmission wear out, I'll just replace them and keep going. I also have a 2007 Grand Marquis with 36,000 miles as a backup, as well as a 2003 Mustang with 77,000 miles, and a 1968 Ford F-250 with who knows how many miles, that I built from the ground up 30+ years ago. I have enough parts to almost build another truck. I'm set.

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

It's all being done for the shareholders. The least deserving of any gains or profits. Who are they just because they hold some tiny fraction of a company via stocks? Pay the workers first. Pay the operating expenses second. Pay the vendors third. Pay the employee bennies fourth. Pay the bond holders fifth. And way in last place are the idle shareholders who do nothing but hold stock.

[@Anon1mous]

Greed is what drives this country. Look at our politicians. That is how they survive and get re elected.

[@Anomize23]

@@shanevanc you mean people are financing cars more than what the car is worth now. That is what you mean by rich.

[@oldschoolgamer5113]

Vw sucks. Every time the dealer touches the car something else goes wrong.

[@GixxerRider1991]

People owing more on their cars than they're worth is a good thing, because it means they will more than likely hold on to them rather than trade them in at a loss. Once demand gets low enough, they'll be forced to start making cheaper cars.

[@untheist5533]

The thought of The Stellantis CEO might get paid out early for literally RUNNING AMERICAN BRANDS INTO THE GROUND makes me CRINGE‼️

[@JoeSlaxon]

It’s all part of the plan

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I've said it before Mark, people get confused between needs and wants. Listen to Mark everyone STOP BUYING THE VEHICLES YOU CAN'T AFFORD!!!!

[@Insanity_Crow]

I don't understand why MBA's can't figure this one out. If you want to succeed in the United States market, vehicle reliability is #1 above all. Toyota and Honda learned this decades ago.

[@peterj5751]

Not just in the US. We want that in Australia too and I suspect this is the tip of the iceberg. I think we are all sick of expensive, over-com-lex cars that are designed to be replaced every few years because they are too expensive to repair and need lots of repairs as soon as the warranty runs out.

[@mikeporro3311]

But the word is they( Honda/ Toyota) are boring, idiots are attracted to eye candy that rots ur finances and patients. I'll take boring till I wake up one day as Jay Leno.

[@peterj5751]

@@Insanity_Crow I don’t see why reliable and boring have to go together. There have been plenty of interest in and fun cars that are reliable. It’s just the current trend of building cars which are designed to last the warranty and then start causing trouble which is very expensive to fix. Things like fragile timing chains that are put at the back of the engines necessitating an engine removal just to fix. Or plastic coolant pipes buried deep in the engine, or even worse, plastic water pumps. Even things like starter motors buried in the V of the engine meaning changing it is a multi-hour job. The list goes on.

[@davidanderson8469]

Our 2005 Pilot has 270K and purrs and shifts like new. 5K oil changes with conventional oil and 30K on the trans and diff. We just bought a slightly used Honda Passport which is lightyears ahead of the 2005 but it'll be sold before the 3/36 and the drivetrain warranty's up. Just too much tech.

[@FredPhillippe]

Turbos and hybrids are fine as an options for people who want to pay for them . But I want a cheap to maintain reliable ICE with port injection . I don’t need 150.00 wheel valve stems with chips in them. Keep it simple . All this is not necessary. . I guess I ll keep my Toyota until there is no gasoline or parts to fix it.

[@marksweetser6312]

Hey, it's that retirement channel guy Edit to add: Mark, I just picked up a 22 Challenger Super Stock with 2600 miles on it this past weekend. I was looking for that car about a year ago, and they were like 110k US. One popped up local for 79, and I jumped on it. You are right about having cash on the side and waiting. 🍻

[@jonmcclure10]

Just wonder if some car company would consider making a really safe, but simple gas car that has much less tech.? Easy to work on, at home for the boys who love working on cars. Make it inexpensive and consider going back in time, and be ready for success!

[@JamesAgans]

Ford could bring back the truck I have in my driveway, a 1994 F150, straight 6- 4.9 liter ( arguably the best engine Ford ever built) 5 speed manual millennial anti-theft device, 2wd, 8 ft bed. Sell it for around $30,000 and they could not keep them in stock. Mine has 140k on the clock, and it runs perfect. It has lane shift avoidance (Coffee), backup assistance (Mirrors), and it also has vent windows, and roof gutters. Two things they never should have ommitted. Oh, and you can actually reach into the bed while standing next to it, and get in without a step ladder.

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I always look forward to seeing your informative videos Mark, very helpful info 👍 😀 👌 🙌👏🙌👏

[@petergozinya6122]

I wouldn’t mind spending $60k for a new vehicle if it was going to last a couple hundred thousand miles, but modern vehicles are only designed to last til the power train warranty expires.

[@filippocorti6760]

I wonder how much truth there is in this.

[@dunnvillegrandtour8900]

I love your new format. Talking about few automotive news in the same video.

[@ECPP]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@carminealiffi9738]

I bought my daughter a new 2015 Jeep Patriot High Latitude with every option off the showroom floor Christmas week 2014 for $24,000 out the door, it was a no brainer not to mention that it is a great dependable Jeep with no high tech. BS. I told her to take care of it as besides the price there is also a quality problem not to mention all the high tech garbage to brake at Jeep; I am just not buying !!!

[@mikeporro3311]

My sister had one. Drove it fully loaded with people and stuff to the beach. 70 miles. It was the slowest pos I ever drove. It was scary getting on the highway. Dog

[@AvengerAngel]

Just a few variables that are killing the brands, aside from reliability: The incentives are not sufficient enough to entice buyers. The other issue is the mass depreciation people have incurred buying both new and used cars during the pandemic panic, and of course the fact that so many people no longer qualify for loans other than predatory, sub-prime if any at all. The car manufacturers opened the door for the dealers to increase MSRP beyond reason.

[@SigFigNewton]

A significant part of their struggles are due to being so far behind technologically. The enormous Chinese consumer market isn’t importing nearly as many cars anymore. They’re buying Chinese EVs, and China has become the world’s leading auto exporter.

[@SigFigNewton]

Sleep on the EV transition = struggle greatly to survive.

[@zaccorpseman7366]

Tbf Jag cars and Maser cars both died off back in the early 2010s… It took the souls out of those things when the naturally aspirated V8s were replaced with turbo engines. Not like they’re well built to begin with, but now they just made it worse by going electric. Doesn’t take long for them to bring back the gassers tho, trust me, those EVs would not sell and would only cause storage pileups.

[@DBVintage]

This is why I am keeping my old Chevy venture minivan.

[@joelahnstein2281]

The so-called managers never looked at a price - demand curve. Basic Econ 101

[@eeazyy7748]

Anything over $100K I'm going Mercedes-Benz or BMW shit bring on Cadillac.

[@ECPP]

same

[@hottew_twat3963]

buy a restored 69 vw bug for 20 grand nothing is worth 100K especially a Mercedes

[@bryanreilly1759]

If only Cadillac could get their shit together. The only reliable engine they have had since 1982 has been a Chevy And I thought the original Cimarron was embarrassment enough for the once great "Standard of the World".

[@filippocorti6760]

Not sure about BMW but you're probably better off with Cadillac for long term reliability and cost of maintenance and repairs.

[@davidanderson8469]

@@filippocorti6760 Agree.

[@Anomize23]

The only thing replaced on my 2016 4runner was a bad strut. Never an engine dash light in sight. Sometimes i feel the need to trade in for something new but then think to myself why go back to the hassle of getting something constantly fixed. I cant trust the new vehicles out there and that includes the new generation Toyota’s. The quality has for sure went down feeling that plastic in the new models.

[@virginiacurry2423]

Just bought a 2018 BMW small suv with 40 000 miles and it's a pasadena car, found in texas. $14 500. It looks and feels new! It was on car gurus

[@lot2196]

If you can't afford a new BMW, you definitely can't afford a used BMW. 😅

[@jeff-ds2pr]

@@lot2196 True. They've gotten a little better lately but the quality on BMWs from 2000-2020 are awful on most of their cars.

[@virginiacurry2423]

@lot2196 it's ok I'm focused on my redesign of my Texas estate first, and then the others. I just don't want to drive my vette everyday. The east coast shore home has a different ride but actually, I'm not interested in a battle of wits with an unarmed bozo. Go watch trump lose.

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

Domestic manufacturers have had over one hundred years to figure out how to make reliable vehicles. It never happened. My family learned our lesson, we now all own Toyotas.

[@edwardkrochmal8268]

Top Manufacturer CEO'S and Boardmembers go drive a vehicle made overseas. See the quality is much better than their own products. Mke sure it's for 6 to 12 months.

[@belka85]

Used rates at 12%!? That's insanity who's buying used?

[@ECPP]

More people than you would believe. Why are so many people so broke?

[@josephjroy6593]

With good credit, used rates go for 8-10%. You still save a lot from depreciation. That said, don't finance more than three years.

[@SigFigNewton]

@@ECPPShort answer? Ronald Reagan.

[@CharlesCurran-m9p]

People with trashed credit maybe?

[@davidanderson8469]

I just did. Got a 2023 Honda Passport with $7K miles for $10K off new. We cashed it out.

[@JamesAgans]

Maybe they could include 3 free TIPM's and a case of deoxit with every purchase?

[@ECPP]

Haha right?

[@Tahvyy]

Jaguar 🐆 first problem is the price which is every car manufacturer at this point. Second, they stopped looking 👀 like jaguars 🐆. Land Rover would’ve had the same problem if they didn’t make them look like Land Rovers. And you can’t do any marketing for them because they (Jaguar) look like everything else out here. Jaguar 🐆 used to be elegant, opulent cars but now they’re nice but look like average cars.

[@ECPP]

That’s very true for SUVs but the whole market is like that. The XJL is a thing of beauty as is the f type and they. It’s look very unique.

[@azmike3572]

@@ECPP So is the classic XK-E.

[@patrickchubey3127]

The Jaguars of the 1950's were classically sleek, beautiful and powerful cars. Not anymore.

[@DHW256]

The new base-model cars I bought the past few years had too much "tech" in them, the highly optioned cars have been insanely overloaded with tech.

[@MyerShift7]

Not a *single* manufacturer makes what I DO, HAVE, or would buy: C segment size cars like the Golf, Cruze, Astra, Corolla, Civic, Elantra, Mazda3, Focus, etc. with a manual transmission AND the equipment combinations/options that I want in preferably a coupe/2-door/3-door, and you can't special order. Let them have cake.

[@beachlife3572]

Stellantis also not producing costume orders...big backlog of orders from January and February...where is the UAW while all the 2nd shifts get cut per factory....

[@safayatkhan2280]

People are paying mortgage amounts for cars that depreciate in value, it’s ridiculous

[@MarkD.-wb3yg]

VW would be great if the check engine light didn’t go on every few months and $2500 apart. A $60k Jeep Grand Cherokee is a GREAT deal for $16k used. Wasn’t a Jaguar really just a fake British Ford? Can GM make a car or truck that doesn’t rust after 5 years? Are Honda and Toyota deciding that reputation for reliability is something they need to ditch? … I like my cars nice and old and made in Japan.

[@davidanderson8469]

My and two other friend's 1985 Toyota Hilux trucks devoured 2.5 qt's of oil every 3K oil change. Toyota said it was "within specs." They had a bad run of engines but wouldn't back up their product. Shit but why not replace the block. There in hock for 100,000 engines and climbing on their Tundras now.

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I always look forward to seeing your informative videos Mark, very helpful info 👍 😀 👌 🙌👏🙌👏I'll get a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura or Mazda before I get a jaguar, Volkswagen EVS also have no place in the cold climate

[@salliegal8932]

Another issue dealerships are having are charging dealer fees that don't seem necessary and makes no sense. Sorry, I'll pass.

[@ECPP]

Many hustles and scams by the dealers

[@raymondhumphrey2749]

How about the E-Ray by Chevy?

[@ECPP]

well.....

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I always look forward to seeing your informative videos Mark, very helpful info 👍 😀 👌 🙌👏🙌👏I'll get a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura or Mazda before I get a jaguar, Volkswagen

[@boricua4052]

Thanks for the info. You are hyper and informative :)

[@jeffthornton6998]

How in the world is Dodge not turning a profit when,literally, everyone has a Challenger/ Charger?

[@EdwardGomez-u8e]

Isn’t VW investing in scout truck?

[@ECPP]

Yes

[@EdwardGomez-u8e]

@@ECPPwow They going straight EV, but small engine gas . I hope they don’t install plastic parts .

[@markmccormack1796]

Raise your hand if you've got cash hanging around to put down on a used car. The reality is, the prices are ridiculous, but people don't have the money. If they do, they are saving in case of layoff.

[@ECPP]

You are right Mark. The good play would be to lay low with money and do t be so quick to spend just yet u less you are in serious need of

[@abeneufeld9690]

We don’t need all the bells and whistles. This is why vehicles are expensive.

[@davidanderson8469]

Europe's mandated that the manufacturers go back to buttons and knobs and stop relying on screens.

[@KA9DSL]

Stellantis :Don't make any more cars Oh Oh. The Der Kommissar in town Oh Oh.

[@ECPP]

Ouch

[@Technocrat.]

Grand Cherokee isn't so grand, I find them tiny vs the 90's versions.

[@dougsheldon5560]

Ask the Indiana State Police about their wonderful Durangos. They're dumping their entire fleets.

[@ECPP]

I totally believe it. Minivans labelled as SUVs and very light duty with bad quality in my opinion

[@filippocorti6760]

Do they have state employed mechanics or do the contract out maintenance and repair?

[@johnhinant970]

Wait until people find out what it takes to do maintenance on a turbocharged engine.

[@rogerrussell9544]

Didn't Stellantis announce they would be producing Jeeps in Egypt?

[@jasonbudd2950Jag]

I'm from blighty . Regarding Jaguar, not sure about your comment 'the brand just didn't catch on' ! Jaguar has been producing Cars since 1935 , special cars like the Jaguar MK2 , the E Type , XJ 220 etc.... Dignitaries and royals over the world have been chofered around in them . They haven't done bad for a company that started out in a glorified Shed in Blackpool England. Beautiful Maserati cars can be bought used for Peanuts because the Quality is awful!! The Ferrari engines they use are a bag of bolts at 50k ! The whole car is put together so poorly with cheap parts , they drive terribly , fit n finish is unacceptable and ofcourse being a Maserati repair bills are through the roof . They Look stunning and sound epic, but they are absolute trash , hence why you can buy them for tuppence.

[@peterj5751]

Jaguar has designed some of the most beautiful cars ever made but the reliability from the 70’s onwards has ranged from poor to catastrophic. At the end of the day they didn’t catch on well enough to prevent them being sold to Ford and the Tata.

[@fratzogmopars]

Cause the problem, then implement a solution that the public does not like. Sounds like our government. Oh that’s right, we have been operating under the socialist model of government directing industry since The Kenyan told GM who they were going to appoint as their CEO.

[@ECPP]

Sounds about right

[@ExpertYouTubeCommentator]

jaguar needed to stick with sports cars...their f-type "looked" awesome....they shouldnt have ventured into the suv arena...they are a novelty car at best and what they are known for...improve those cars reliability focus on that before venturing to other car models

[@ECPP]

I agree, they thought Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari were t with SuVs so they figured….why not? Here is why

[@fjkania4117]

You can't fool all the people all the time! Cut quality and readability and you will pay the price!

[@kwazar6725]

The era of disposable and unreliable vehicles is upon us!

[@frios011]

These companies will spend the next decade trying to get customers back after this fiasco!

[@davidpetersen9525]

The smart money is on the manufacturers that will respond quickest to this rapidly changing economic climate. Some of the 'giants' are numb to where things are headed. Let the chips fall where they may.

[@lennymo9088]

They should go back to standardizing models for 4-6 years instead of a new model & tech & engines every year. Also, offer a car that does not have mega tech devices to inflate the price by $3000-6000 dollars and All Wheel drive is not necessary when you live in Florida & other states.

[@eeazyy7748]

Have you seen the interiors for Jaguar and Masirati lol outdated.

[@ECPP]

Yes they are. Maserati uses 90s parts from the Chrysler bin

[@ezvic420]

If we factor in for inflation, these cars are actually just as affordable or unaffordable as they always have been. Our money is worth half of what it used to be . The old $40k is the new $80k

[@davidanderson8469]

Unless you go to New Zealand. One sawbuck is worth two of theirs.

[@Matt6X]

I would not pay even 30K for the Chrysler 120k car

[@kingl9801]

Paid to leave early? How about leave with zero dollars because he destroyed all profits therefore destroying his own golden parachute

[@ECPP]

Cheers. Does sound more like rewarding bad behaviour

[@brianwashere7966]

I'm sorry...The blame for negative equity falls SQUARELY on the buyer. No one forced you to go out and pay 20+k over sticker. And just like the pandemic hoarding of stupid stuff like toilet paper a lot of these fools just bought in panic buying mode. I could NOT care less about their "problems".

[@williamcaspers5252]

For 100K+ it should come with a head and galley.

[@wally6193]

well no body said people were smart, sadly most aren't.

[@ECPP]

Most people are spending with out thinking about the challenges

[@wally6193]

well you can't expect to keep making lada's with a jag name tag and keep on selling them, lol.

[@IvanChernobyl]

I've been driving Volkswagen since the 60s. The quality is consistently gone down the last few decades. Last one I bought was about 15 years ago. Clearly Honda and Toyota make a superior reliable product.

[@1tarras]

vW groep close also close the Audi plant in vorst in 2025.producing the AUDI electric Q8.

[@tomislavkralj8767]

I am from Europe, more precisely I live very close to Germany. I sincerely hope that Volkswagen and the rest of the car manufacturer gang will fail because they have overpriced their vehicles. 30k euros for a Golf?! It's too much even for a native German. And not to mention the quality. New is not good, not to mention used. People don't even buy them used because they can't finance the repairs of the huge electronics they put in their vehicles. As someone wrote in a comment; I don't need screens, cameras and all that shit! I need a reliable car that has air conditioning, power steering, ABS and airbags. I don't need more than that.

[@stea2494]

I would not even take a FREE stellantis product, & would never buy a ford either i had 3 to many.

[@valentinoavilaii1147]

8 to 10 years 😮😮😮😮

[@ECPP]

well....

[@it1988a]

Camel Toe wants all electric if she wins...that would be a s**t show.

[@ECPP]

it will be interesting

[@fratzogmopars]

Let’s see if they can pull off another election theft. Gitmo awaits.

[@SliderFury1]

The way to not go underwater on your car loan is to not have one.

[@ECPP]

True

[@SigFigNewton]

Instructions unclear. Am now underwater on my bicycle loan.

[@ECPP]

@ ouch

[@obesetuna3164]

In these lean times, there must be a market out there for a very basic, no thrills version of the Voyager/Caravan. Jaguar have flushed their glorious heritage down the toilet, and are re-tooling to go all electric. That is less useful to me than a bull with tits.

[@juiyuwang426]

Why human can't keep thing simple and easy ....

[@jonwear9791]

Greed !

[@erich84502ify]

They say cars are built to go 140 k mi then will give message 'needs subscription payment'😅😂😂🤣(joke)

[@therealsyxx]

The people have a vendetta against Chrysler/ Dodge/ Jeep dealers. They scammed customers, and so did the manufacturers. I wanted a hellcat and i was not paying a mark up. Now im not buying one till I can get a hellcat with 10k miles for 50k. They are at 60 now. People thought i was crazy. Watch me get a low mileage hellcat for 50k. Thats what they are worth. Because its what im going to pay. Never let someone tell you what something is worth to you. Its a dodge. If I wanna spend 100k, I'll buy a Bentley

[@eduardojimenez2044]

50k for a ANY Dodge is still crazy, cat or not!! Better wait another 12-24 months and get it for 20k?

[@loyal4theway159]

Toyota and honda please make reliable vehicles

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

This is going to be a baaaaaad recession. My head is spinning from all the layoffs and store and restaurant closures across the country. 😵‍💫 I don't envy the next president LOL

[@ECPP]

Things are heating up

[@margelatul68]

they just don’t get it 😂GREED 😢😢😢😢=BANKRUPTCY!!

[@ECPP]

cheers

[@jaytee6741]

$100K for a truck? 😂😂😂

[@shanevanc]

If there were not 100% tariffs on Chinese parts Stellantis would be able to add tons of European products with Chinese content. The fact is Chrysler and Jeep have always contributed cash to owners at the cost of downgraded quality. The last really great Chrysler was the Valiant.and it had electrical problems.

[@borghorsa1902]

On the contrary I would ban all Chinese products in the West. China is behind Russia's WW3 in Europe, all of West should cut all ties with them. Let them sell their junk to Somalia, Russia or Brazil, fellow BRICS members

[@MyerShift7]

From my and my family's experience, the K cars were actually among the most reliable, and durable cars that Chrysler ever made

[@sunking2001]

Don't you mean "Life's too short to drive overpriced junkpiles?"

[@edwardsteinjolt3720]

1.6 million mexican pesos + taxes for a 2 door basic wrangler.... no thanks

[@javier7717]

Your over exaggerating 😂

[@youarerightboss]

Overpriced depreciating liabilities

[@ECPP]

100 percent

[@melissasmess2773]

Negative equity means the monthly payment amount wasn't as high as it should have been! 🤡🥴

[@geraldscott4302]

Any idiot is going to have negative equity for a while unless they pay at least half down. A new computer/spymobile/robocar loses 30% of its value before the ink is dry on the paperwork. So you are going to owe way more on it than it is worth before you even get home with it. Financing new cars is just plain stupid. I did finance a couple of vintage collector cars for a short time, they actually went up in value before I paid them off.

[@prop19yes]

this is what you get when unions dictate hourly wage, Im tired of Unions, they have too much power, if I ran a company and someone wanted a Union, id fire them and hire others that will work for a decent wage, they make too much, part of the problem, and they add to much tech in vehicles we neither want nor need.

[@Ken-d2z]

A country can be ruined by one leader like Canada One man can ruin a company as well like Stellantis like the CEO

[@Crazyuncle1]

I’m sure bidenflation hasn’t helped the situation at all

[@SigFigNewton]

You mean the inflation from money printing that began in 2020?

[@shanevanc]

Your name describes you well. Oh but you don't use your real name 😂

[@azz4067]

كيف يتم حساب قيمة التضخم كل سنة يعني قبل 30 سنة كيف حساب مقدار الفارق الآن وتقدير قيمته الحالية

[@borghorsa1902]

Inflation is down from 7 percent under Trump and his coronavirus era to 3.4 percent now. If we let Russia win in Ukraine there will be a mass exodus of dollars throughout the world, guess where they will be coming to? - Home! Expect 400 percent inflation under Trump and his comrade Putin's victory

[@spartanj2957]

HE WILL BE LEAVING AS CEO AND OVER 100 MIL IN HIS POCKET. OH THE BEST PART THEY ARE PUTING HIM ON THE BOARD. GIVE ME A BREAK. IM DONE WITH CJDR

[@ronaldhebner2146]

People will smarten up and fast. Credit will become a thing of the past.

[@SigFigNewton]

People will smarten up and fast. War will become a thing of the past. -visionaries after WWI

[@melissasmess2773]

@@SigFigNewtonThey didn't factor in the Profit factor of killing others.

[@melissasmess2773]

Naw, women love living beyond their means and make 80% of financial decisions.

[@GixxerRider1991]

Without credit the economy would collapse.

[@ronaldhebner2146]

@ not in our house

[@jeff-ds2pr]

Over the past year tech and manufacturing companies have been laying off like crazy. The unemployment numbers are propped up mainly by all the government jobs Joe and Kamala "created". It's going to get worse for Stellantis next year, it's going to get rough no matter who gets elected.

[@newtonlee7849]

Can anyone explain why N American , Euro cars are so poorly made & unreliable? Is it management or workers, or just the entire Western culture, & the attitude ( or lack of care) towards quality & responsibility causing this?

[@ECPP]

Built by NA union workers primarily

[@eduardojimenez2044]

Should we expect thoughtfully-designed and carefully-built cars from people who think nothing and defend”the right” to smoke weed 24/7 openly in their cities and inject puberty blockers into their young children?

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I'll try to remember to cry for Tesla and Elon 😅😅😂😂😂LMAO LOL 😆 😂 🤣 😅