Finally trying out my 15th century armour

[@scholagladiatoria]

It was great having you there, Lloyd. Let's do it again 🙂

[@scholagladiatoria]

360p wow. It's like Early Beige, when I was still at school.

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

Great to see you all together

[@RULERofSTARS]

Nice of you to christen his armour propperly, that dent makes it 100% more authentic ;)

[@LastRightsZero]

@@scholagladiatoria 🦆🏳️🤜🤛🙋‍♂️🧐💾!!!!

[@Oxnate]

Only if you catch the berk who dented his shiny.

[@federationprime]

I demand a video where Mr. Lloyd travels to France with this armor and a band of not-so-merry men to ransack towns, burn crops, and force their men-at-arms from their castles into a field engagement. No, I am not getting my time periods mixed up.

[@davey1602]

Just your average Englishman's holiday to the Loire then?

[@snepping1885]

BASED

[@SuperFunkmachine]

one day when the French are finished on the castle, we'll be really.

[@somethingelse4424]

​@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.

[@somethingelse4424]

​@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.

[@Drachinifel]

I think we made an impressive looking bodyguard between you, Matt, Zac and myself 😀

[@josephhward3288]

Lord drac praise the algorithm and lindy great day 🙌

[@reginaldbentworth9159]

Knew that was you in the thumbnail

[@theofficerfactory2625]

The naval historian was there? Most of all, commenting here? What a blessed day!

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

I thought I recognised that beard!

[@davidledrich6394]

Hi from a French medieval reenactor. When I am on the field, I always have a can of WD40 and I use the spray right after I used the armour. It helps a lot to prevent corrosion!

[@tikkidaddy]

If applied quickly WD40 will work for that purpose as it is a "Water Displacement fluid, the 40th version" that was tested. I use it for a bunch of things but I wipe stuff down after and apply Seafoam DEEP CREEP.. About the same price and a far better lubricant

[@TheCraziestFox]

Ah, yes. The deodorant of choice for most armored reenactors. :D

[@glenngriffon8032]

I find the image of a knight in full armor spraying himself with WD40 to be hilarious.

[@TheCraziestFox]

@@glenngriffon8032 Don't be ridiculous. A knight in full armor wouldn't do that. That's what the squire is for.

[@wheressteve]

Who doesn't enjoy the smell of roast mutton and WD-40 in the morning.

[@WolfingtonStanley]

Bloke I worked with about 30 years ago did medieval reenactment, he was a viking raider and met his wife at one show She was playing a medieval peasant who's village was under attack and in the heat of the moment she grabbed a piece of timber and caught him squarely in the crown jewels sending him sprawling with crossed eyes One year later they were married and had a couple of kids Always thought it was a rather romantic tale

[@davidpnewton]

Other than twins how on earth would they accomplish "a couple" of children in a year?!

[@WolfingtonStanley]

@@davidpnewton I meant to add a comma and put "have" instead of "had"

[@bobmiller7502]

@@davidpnewton come on now Dave, Really, uuum

[@myparceltape1169]

She saw what she wanted and went for it.

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

Almost accurate end to that.

[@CitizenSmith50]

Don't get old!!! I'm in my 70s; a back injury from my youth has come back to haunt me, and I have to go through similar contortions (without armour) just to get out of bed ! Getting down is easy (think gravity) but getting up is almost impossible !

[@bobmiller7502]

join the club brother, better than not getting old, its the noises that make me laugh, with almost every movement

[@googleuser3163]

im 6

[@strigonshitposting793]

Two videos not even a week apart? You’re too kind, Lloyd.

[@loso8381]

And they're both over half an hour too!

[@googleuser3163]

Hello comrade

[@Nantosuelta]

This really is the conclusion of an epic saga. I've been waiting years and years ever since the original video of Lloyd explaining how he was finally get armor made, and now we finally get to see him triumphantly don the complete kit in all its glory!

[@Fenristhegreat]

It's really lovely your father and brother were there to see you fight. Definitely need to design a heraldic surcoat for yourself though!

[@perniciouspete4986]

Let's see, now, perhaps a man in a tuxedo doing the Lindy Hop against a background of, yes, you guessed it: beige.

[@edevans5991]

Well it should be beige, I'm sure.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Books behind held by a dragon? With the main color being beige?

[@DJRockford83]

Just plain beige 👌🏻

[@briggsbughouses6291]

@@perniciouspete4986 A tuxedo'd Lindy rampant on a beige background?

[@Specter_1125]

The feeling of being slow is one of the reasons training in armor was so important. If you wear it often enough, you can run pretty damn quickly in it. There’s a video of Toby Capwell running full tilt in armor.

[@jamesj4827]

Haha Lucy sounds like a champ, love how eccentric a lot of the crafts people can be, you got to be a bit mad to get into it in the first place. Never a dull day when talking with them and not the first time I've heard of a 'nope these will not do for you so you can't have them' Last time I had it I just went with they 'sure, I'll go with your recommendation then' And I was very happy with the result it was flawless ^^

[@furtvvanglerr8296]

>posted 17 seconds ago >comments already praising how good this 1hr long video is

[@pellelindtner3488]

they just watched it at 200x times speed

[@barryhill2836]

Heavy sweating on the forearms is pretty common whenever you remove any contact with the air. You can see it for instance after you get forearm tattoos done and they wrap your forearm in clingfilm after the session to protect it, they sweat like CRAZY.

[@livedandletdie]

The problem is not removal of air, it's that you trap heat next to your skin. However that would be a good thing in wintertime. You can wear armor in the winter, and it won't be that cold. Well the armor will be cold, but if you have good enough clothes beneath the armor, it will insulate you from the outside weather, and since air is a really good insulator armor won't really get that cool, and the things you should worry about is contact surfaces, such as the ground and anything you grab hold of.

[@InShortSight]

In heatstroke weather run water over your forearms or wear/hang a wet cloth or kerchief there for a quick bit of relaxation. Cant so easily do that wearing armor of course. There's alot of blood and veins there near the surface of your skin, very little fat or muscle insulating them.

[@Gillsing]

When it's really hot and I have a drink of cold water, my forearms is where it first comes out. Feels kind of useless to drink if all it's going to pour out and run down to my hands, which I usually want to use for touching a keyboard or screen.

[@RedmondBarryII]

This always reminds me of watching mythbusters as a kid, showing thermals while exercising, how the limbs disperse heat.

[@Echin0idea]

On adventurers and plate armour, something I really liked in SM Stirling's Emberverse fantasy series is that the band of questing heroes do *have* sets of full plate (and lances for mounted fighting), but they stay on the packhorses or at the latest hideout/friendly settlement and only get put on when there's a pitched battle and a fair bit of time to prepare for it.

[@das_gruuben]

There is a reason that I like composite safety-toe boots on the job. Just the difference in weight between a small piece of steel and a small piece of very tough composite has a VERY big difference. I can't imagine just how bad full steel sabatons must be, let alone the rest of the kit. Also, Lloyd. That looks like a Makita cordless drill you're using there, which I actually use on the job. Some of the best tools I've found. Glad that they're usefull in more historical aspects. I can only imagine how much an armorour of old would have enjoyed them. Anyways, tangents aside, great video, Lloyd! Keep them coming, if you'd be so kind!

[@CaptWesStarwind]

This is like baby's first steps. First steps into BATTLE! But seriously, congrats on getting your new spiffy armor out on the field.

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

*cough*reenactment

[@carlothecoffeeguy3778]

The reenactment was amazing to watch, kudos to all the men and women who endured that hot July day in armour! My mate and I wondered If we'd spot you on the field but it turned out we were watching from the Lancastrian side!

[@DTavona]

Oops! LOL!

[@O378D]

Great to fight alongside you there at my own first re-enactment battle! Glad you got your points sorted out. Something really strange I noticed as a lightly armoured billman, it that despite being really hot in my padded jack and repeatedly having water poured down my bevor, at the end of the battle I was completely dry... I can only imagine all the moisture evaporated! Regarding other battles, believe the season is over now, but you should look for a group who is part of the Wars of the Roses Federation to join and that will keep you in the loop.

[@peterwall8191]

Welcome back to us Good sir knight! A blooded knight at last.A bodyguard to a royal the first time ? I am dully impressed. 16:06 There was an old thunderf00t video,where he used an infrared camera on himself. Turns out, human forearms are heat sinks and evaporation points. You had yours covered ,so sweat gathering there , trying to evaporate, makes sense. What is this ? No colours , no heraldry, a man of your stature? Something must be done about it.It is not proper, to fight anonymously like a common armsman. How will your peers know of your prowess, with no device? No this will simply not do. Not to worry, rest and repair for now, autumn is not much of a campaigning season. Rest, refit, train. Come spring , England will know of you.

[@rmsgrey]

My hypothesis is that the human body adapts to sweat more where it's less frequently covered - which is commonly the forearms and possibly parts of the leg.

[@UrsineArms]

Youre a swell fellow and I've watched you for a decade, cheers mate

[@SueBobChicVid]

Those creases look great. Thanks for the update. I image many period wearers of armour had similar problems.

[@Nuts-Bolts]

The discolouration was probable due to Oxalic acid in the grass and weeds. Still, it creates a good rust inhibiting surface.

[@aarondingley3437]

Having lived in Tewkesbury, I can totally appreciate the faff of getting to and from the station.

[@chrisp4170]

That was probably what b*ggered things up for the Lancastrians too…

[@El_Chompo]

It's too bad that ColdWarMotors youtube channel guy is all the way across the world from you in Canadia, because man, his skill level at repairing car dents is insanely high while at the same time being super nice and humble. I bet he could make you forget that chest plate dent was ever there if you gave him 20 minutes with that piece. What a delight it is to watch him work. Removing dents from metal is such an art and he really understands it more than I think anybody else that I've seen repair dents on video. His shack side "quick and dirty" fixes are better than most professional body shops that I've seen.

[@normdyer94]

Thank you for dozens of fascinating insights as to what it was like for those in knightly battle.

[@Luraldir_Original]

I subscribed to this channel whilst I was still in secondary school. It is one of very few decisions from that period I can still stand behind.

[@smash8865]

Can't wait to watch, congratulations on the achievement! Huge progress for the lindybeige campaign!

[@andrewjackson7793]

On the question of D&D parties not wanting to wear plate, your closest comparison is probably live role-playing, where people do run around doing lots of silly things in all sorts of kit. I've crawled through horribly tight spaces in a plate harness - admittedly, it would have been somewhat easier without it, but then again it was quite nice not having to worry about what might jump out and attack my legs while my arms and head were in a different corridor, so I was glad to have it on.

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

Lloyd Use Rennaisance wax. It's cheap and wont come off like oils. It also preserves your leather parts.

[@jasonrogers8360]

I use two approaches that have worked very well. If I'm using armour more regularly I'll only use a light coat of mineral oil and keep it stored in towels. If I'm putting it away for more than a month I'll give use renaissance wax and throw in a few moisture absorbing packs. Works excellently and does a great job avoiding excess maintenance.

[@8arcasticallyYours]

I used to go to those re-enactments every summer when I lived in the area. Fantastic event!

[@JohnM-sw4sc]

The ghosts of that battle must be so confused when you guys do this

[@alfieburns9019]

“No no no no, they’re doing it completely wrong! Duke Richard was never stood here! And look at this man’s armour, completely wrong!”

[@toddzircher6168]

That sounds like an interesting train ride from a spectator perspective.

[@liammacaodha4783]

great to see you actually getting to use the suit. well done! I'm always surprised how much of a one-man band you are.

[@petermiller1041]

The reenactment is very near the battlefield - but not actually on the field. I did the battlefield tour a few weeks ago - and you walk through the actual battlefield from the car park! Amazing to think those hedges were there all those years ago. Well worth taking the tour - it’s free too

[@vincencures]

Just an idea for a short future video -> while reading some legends about Cú Chulainn, an Irish mythical warrior, there was a point that sparked an interest when Cú was put out of a battle rage by cooling him in vats of water. So, seems like there were prepared vats of water behind battle lines at least since Irish mythic age. :) You spoke about water deliveries, that I suppose organised army had to function. Maybe a topic worth a dedicated reflexion?.. based on personal experience.

[@vincencures]

​@@jackodonail1980 ... yea, three vats he boiled away before he calmed down, or something like that. Thank You for pointing it out. Cú must have been a real fun to be around when had his moods. :)

[@DannyBeamz123]

Love the videos so educational always a pleasure to see you Lindybeige as well

[@commanderstone4217]

Fantastic video like always lindy

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

18:09 he must’ve hit your collarbone! RIP medieval Lloyd.

[@mikewilburn5884]

Always a joy. Thank you

[@Jesscrayons]

1st time I fell over in my harness I did it by mistake and rolled down as small slope in to a ditch. After that a lot of the worry about falling over in it went.

[@benjaminnewman3833]

you realise that these people went through this type of problems back in the ages of this type of armour. Absolutely mental

[@TheMithridates]

"Something that happened during a fight" I suspect it was Lindy's massive enthusiasm.

[@bankerduck4925]

So it is done! What a thing. Lindybeige's medievally stuff is really some of the best.

[@stevovondivo2326]

Lloyd you've truly surpassed yourself this time - congrats, that man! :)

[@frankharr9466]

Yay! I'm glad it worked out as well as it did! Communication is a trouble and I can understand that. It's nice to know what the practical expereince says.

[@shauntemplar.26]

Lindy at his very best , listen to him talk for hours

[@georgececil-jones7046]

Im the guy in the read cape fighting the duel in front of you runing over to help the other chap it was nice to meet you hopefully I will see you again at tewks :)

[@samdog166]

Imagine you’re on the train and you see lindybeige sewing his sheepskin

[@ElGeecho]

I really appreciate the detailed thoughts on the armor and reenactment. That was really interesting.

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

I've been waiting for this since day 1. damn it's been a while, cool armor

[@knife1406]

lol lindy you looked cool in that armor, happy you got to do this

[@Oooo-bi7bi]

Well done. I’ve watched the channel of the battle. It looks good. Bringing history to life. I’m hoping teachers show it to students. Making history lessons exciting like an action film. This big kid loves it.

[@J-bo2025]

Another great video, Lindybeige. Myself & my family were at the Battle on the first day and it was so boiling hot that when we left, a bit early, we saw a horseman collapse off his horse at their horse-carrying van & a knight running back to his tent because he said said his suit was still cooking him! (A lithe man) Phew!

[@Aggnog]

Nice to see the fruits of your labor.

[@tombrace1273]

Great video! I think I saw you wandering around Newcastle not too long ago, little bit crazy seeing you in the flesh after watching you for years!

[@gtbkts]

Thanks for the awesome content!

[@Kradlum]

Congratulations on your deed of arms! It is so good to finally see you fight in your armour after all the trials and tribulations, and great to hear your review of how every piece worked. I'm guessing that is Matt in the black armour, to your left, in the picture of the body guards?

[@fboyg91]

Strange as it sounds, hearing this makes me appreciate modern armor a lot more than I did before. I didn’t need an arming doublet; the plate carrier performs that role. I didn’t need a squire to get in or out of my armor. I didn’t have any issues with mobility due to the armor physically stopping movement. There’s a wonderful degree of segmentation between a front and back plate and side plates. There’s also a large degree of standardization between manufacturers. If you can use one company’s armor, you can use another.

[@GaiusCaligula234]

But also modern armour is a fair bit less effective than that armour was against its contemporaries

[@Will-SFC06]

I enjoyed your comments on "Armor Skill" as is might apply to RPGs. Not only is there the technical knowledge of fitting, adjusting and donning armor, but the basic exercise of wearing it: walking, running, fighting and using the bathroom... Just wearing it can be a great workout. I used to put my kit on to mow the lawn just to get used to it. And then, as you describe: maintenance. Sergeants spend most of their time teaching their recruits Attention to Detail! While not a fan of "white-glove inspections", they can be used as an indication to that attention to detail.

[@LuxisAlukard]

Still waiting for video where Lloyd walks around town and performs everyday tasks, wearing his armour =)

[@mpersad]

An hour long video? From Lindybeige? For a weekend viewing? Huzzah!

[@captainchocks909]

This chap is totally bonkers but totally thrilling to listen to. Amazing stuff

[@scottythedawg]

if your tassit buckles had an extra loop at the bottom it would probably help. 2 bar buckle is the simplest solution imo- the leather will be prevented from lifting, with the second bar acting as a flexing point.

[@adamtennant4936]

Having fallen off a low (about four metres) castle wall in pitch black darkness while wearing plastic, LARP plate armour I can confirm that armour can be VERY useful at spreading the impact out. Also having fallen over on rocks wearing maille that also helps a lot to reduce the damage.

[@TheFallingandFlying]

Lindy just talks, and I love listening to him, whatever he has to say

[@rudiruttger]

I am well pleased to see more armor updates.

[@PalleRasmussen]

That exposed piece of the hand is where we often get injured in our competetive reenactment fights. Oh! I see Alex 😀

[@flaviusstilicho1239]

If there is one thing good about our time, it is the love and appreciation of history by the reenactment groups.

[@ignachioelsmith9053]

That looked like fun, and more importantly, you had fun. Glad the armours working out well. Will be great to see more of you in action next time!

[@annasstorybox7906]

Talking about things not smelling as bad as expected... I wear woolen socks (needle bound) in my leather shoes with my historical outfit. Since I bought off the shelf shoes and the market is targeted towards men I ended up with shoes that were juuuust a bit to big for my tiny feet. With these socks they fit perfectly. That's why I also wear them in summer. This shoe and sock combo is one of the best in terms of not feeling like my feet are melting. I've carefully checked for smell but even after a hot summer day these socks don't reek! Woolen socks in mostly leather shoes are a miracle. Opposite to a number of people I also like the standard issue socks that go with the combat uniform and boots. That combo is actually farely high up in my "shoes I can wear all day" list.

[@Korhanne]

I think given all the problems with the ground, three quarters plate makes a lot of sense. also more mobility in general is an edge in a fight... just better hope you don't take an arrow to the knee/ankle/shin >.>

[@brianfuller757]

Cool. I was waiting for this.

[@m0rtnik]

Great to have you there! :D

[@johnacott1238]

Tis good to see that the fog of war is still active, even with reenactments!

[@Alicatt1]

20:00 getting up, playing American football it was something we had to practice a lot, there is a slight bit of flexion in wearing the shoulder pads in that your waist is relatively free-ish but two of you starting from flat on your backs head to head with one of you having the ball and the other having to tackle the person with the ball, you were not sitting up but rolling/flipping on to your front and then grappling the opponent, great fun but very, very, tiring.

[@mariaphillips4538]

I enjoyed thi spresentation it was informative thank you. My daughter is a fencer and can often end up very bruised depending on who her aponent is.

[@mpersad]

Armour that has seen some real action is the best armour! Cherish the dinks, dents and scratches! Terrific video.

[@rileyernst9086]

On the sweaty elbows: you had 2 layers of reasonably close fitting steel there ending in a leather glove. Nowhere at all for the moisture to escape at all.

[@aenapoeka]

Damn, imagine if there was a drone camera for the whole battle!

[@barry-h6w]

I love watching you recounting your re-enacting stories, i,d love to have a pair of those sabatons to play football in, i,d feel like a Tiger tank on the football pitch, as a former sheet metal worker i admire imensely your beautifully made suit of armour, and watching those armourers making it, although i did make small scale model of a welders helmet in mild steel sheet and briefly tried some silver smithing lessons at night school using copper sheet as it behaves just like real silver but considerably cheaper, which was fun but i gave up soon after starting the course, as it was very time consuming but enjoyable non the less interesting..

[@kalamaroni]

How was it in terms of noise? Could you hear orders? How dependent were you on flags to maintain your orientation?

[@IAmCaligvla]

10:28 I'd imagine the point of it being vegan is not so much that it has "meat" in it as it is that it basically doesn't use any animal by-products, therefore no animals were harmed/abused or whatever in the production of it.

[@JagerLange]

I had a similar forearm-sweaty thing happen when I first wore parachute smocks for re-enactment - despite ventilation (some moreso than others) at the armpit and the top of the arm, the bottom of the sleeve seemed in summer weather to become an absolute heat-trap and anything behind the cuffs up to the elbow would be clammy as hell after a while. The solution to that is to roll the sleeves up, which obviously you can't do with armour... but maybe the trick there is to increase ventilation at the top of your arms to allow the hot air to escape.

[@tomaszskowronski1406]

46:07 Yay! That bloke on the far right, i saw his video on Sallet helmet just before watching this one. Small world

[@michaelwhite8031]

Well done, a great example of living history.

[@blah7956]

Only with lindybeige and Internet historian are the ads part of the viewing experience!

[@tehweh8202]

Very interesting video. Armour seems so simple until you learn how complex and complicated it actually is.

[@ianhenderson3078]

"Any complaints about your leg armour?" "Well ... no greavances."

[@orthoff123]

Greetings from Frankonia! Very very good video! Danke schön!

[@filmonewaldeabsebhat]

Just a regular busy working class man of today, not earning much but still learning much.

[@miserablepixels2876]

The intermittent footage makes me laugh, I don't fully understand why... I guess its the fairly surreal juxtaposition of going from a reasonably direct, personal conversation to the astonishingly nerdy historical mass-roleplaying event, overlaid with the sedated loudspeaker announcers somewhat drearily delivering random facts and observations.. and then abruptly back again. It's a bit of existential whiplash. Anyway, I'm glad these things exist and that people have the opportunity to gather and share their interests in a friendly community, even if my ego could never ever bear participating in such a thing.

[@charlesghannoumlb2959]

What i love the most in the sword and armour and hema related comunity is the civilized and very gentelmanly matter everyone comments and talks, it shows how civil and well brought up all of us are, lets keep it like this, and mr lloyd great videos thank yiu soo much

[@RobKinneySouthpaw]

I think plate is more protective in a fall since the deformation of the rigid armor absorbs energy, whereas maille just adds weight

[@jamesj4827]

Not historical but you may be able to add a strong magnet inset into the back of the strap, then it will stay down without altering the look when wearing

[@SneakyBadAssOG]

I get massively sweaty forearms when I hold something heavy in my hand when it's hot outside, essentially overheating. As if I just left a shower. I guess it's the hairs.

[@python27au]

I had a similar experience. I was a member of a DA reenactment group, I didn’t have all the gear so during training I’d borrow some. A bloke leant me some modified lung foo gloves while we practiced axe and seax. They had good protection from the top but nothing underneath, so during the fight my opponents blade came up between my finger and the glove taking about a 1/4 in of skin off my finger and brushing the nail. I’d done martial arts for a few years and was in the army so I was used to taking a bit of punishment but for some reason at that moment I felt the need to have a lie down. I felt a bit nauseous and light headed, even though it really didn’t hurt that much and I’d suffered far worse with less effect. I saw a bloke skin his knuckles undoing a bolt on a car engine, there was little blood and he laughed it off then turned around and passed out. Weird.

[@unofficialpolitics9553]

Your armour still looks great, all things considered.

[@Gworgalad]

57:00 Broom handle and branch sparring always went the same way in my youth. Many arguments arose between my friends and I on how "that's not how fighting works". I'm referring of course to them getting angry that I didn't attack them slow enough.

[@ccityplanner1217]

Sounds like I could get a gig shifting people's stuff to & from Ashchurch by bakfiets. Your doublet, is it dry-clean only or do you wash it in the bathtub? I don't expect it would go in the washing machine, or could it go in the washing machine if you took all the laces out? 30:43: Could you just use your neck strength to brace the helmet, because if it's heavy & you're wearing it routinely, you'd develop the muscles in your neck? 43:50: There are a lot of things flying through the air that don't all look like arrows. What are they?

[@alanmackinnon3516]

When I died at Evesham, I found it a bit difficult getting up because of the weight of the helmet.