Finals | Simon Nielsen vs Sam Pardee | Modern |

[@ArtisticTomahawk]

Top 8: Nadu, Nadu, Nadu, Nadu, Nadu, Necro, Necro, Jeskai Control Top 4: Nadu, Nadu, Nadu, Nadu Finals: Nadu, Nadu Winner: Nadu Nice and diverse meta 7 Nadu matches to watch!

[@h3rtzen]

This is what you get when “diversity” anyone cares about is not metagame one

[@yfw123]

Why didn’t you also list the one ring that many times? There were 5 Nadu decks out of top 8 but 7 out of the top 8 decks are playing the one ring. I won’t say the one ring is an interesting card to interact with in that sense.

[@h3rtzen]

@@yfw123 ring is also a very obvious problem

[@kasuto-no-machi]

It’s not just that Nadu dominates the meta, but it’s incredibly painful to watch

[@ArtisticTomahawk]

@@kasuto-no-machi very

[@PlatypodesReges]

Sam Pardee is such a good sport. "It's your moment" - pure class. Also, yes, ban the bird.

[@jomaniwan804]

Whoever designed Nadu should get a ban from designing cards.

[@TestName286]

Their excuse was that there's too many cases to consider when designing a card. But that's almost as if there's a great argument in favor of stopping Product Fatigue. They're printing too much to boost short term quarterly gains that it's causing card power and mistakes to inflate exponentially.

[@pr0fess0rbadass]

They're getting a raise for selling packs

[@malte54]

@@TestName286 There are too many cases to look at legacy cephalid breakfast decks and realise that'd be a stupid idea in modern?

[@ShinerCCC]

They just had to put the closing quote one sentence earlier

[@j_stach]

It's skullclamp all over again

[@datenschutzification]

Worst viewer experience in magic ever unfortunately

[@haydenbuters4659]

100 %. I turned off the live stream after the first game of the quarter finals.

[@BauldyBoys]

Can you imagine showing this to a new player lol. Ya this is pure magic baybee.

[@Tylerbremner]

@@datenschutzification it’s modern what do you expect. The format is dominated by a few decks then one card comes along and changes it. Atleast it’s not vintage. Shit it’s been the same decks for 20 years. Atleast standard rotates 🤷‍♂️

[@damianosollazzo5747]

​@@Tylerbremner you can't be serious about Vintage. Is it true?

[@datenschutzification]

@@BauldyBoys "yeah, this is magic and btw you have to spend a shit ton of bucks to only get the land base.."

[@davidwales9657]

Ban the bird

[@ChromaToneMusic]

Un-boltable bird is just wrong 😢

[@pr0fess0rbadass]

Dont worry, they'll print a 4 damage bolt in MH4

[@Ghostdeth13242]

That costs your opponent 1 mana

[@LizaPlz]

how about na dont

[@Lizardwithdahat]

Lot of work and time goes into covering a unfortunately broke format

[@Lordidude]

Last tour before the bans lol

[@Tylerbremner]

First one

[@Morchunkis]

What has wotc done to give you this confidence. This is the first little part of Nadu summer.

[@Morphling92]

They didn’t immediately ban tolarian academy. This ain’t getting banned too quickly.

[@coopergw3463]

​@@Morphling92Tolarian Academy? You mean 25 years ago?

[@Morphling92]

@@coopergw3463 yeah. The card wasn’t any less bananas in the unofficial artifact cycle than it is now….

[@irifhir]

All due respect to people involved, but BOOOORING

[@MenwithHill]

I don't even blame the players, they're gravitating to the best deck. I blame Wizards for releasing the bird when everyone and their mom could tell he would absolutely destroy the format.

[@Babyboots1]

Worse pro tour watch experience. Ever.

[@estelaguarda5423]

Clicked not to watch but just read the comments lol.

[@Matti_Mattsen]

I was really excited for this ProTour, hoping to see many different decks and brews duking it out after the MH3 release. Well, we got to see one deck... and 100 iterations of it

[@geometricreality4543]

Thank you so much for the awesome coverage!!!!! I will be back for the next live coverage.

[@RASK1904]

Whaat😮 why wasn't this all over my feed? Had to search it. Come on.

[@azerim2039]

WotC sucks at promoting their events. You can very easily miss them if you aren't following everything in Magic.

[@Lucas-lp9kh]

boring af. nice card testing guys... jeez

[@Leuber]

Wait, you think they still test cards??

[@Sicktoid]

They definitely tested Nadu and it is designed with every intention to be a format warping card. There's no way you put a weird clause like "twice each turn" in there, unless it went through quite a bit of testing. They wanted to create a buzzcard that would define the format and they pushed it far enough that they succeeded... So... Good job! You did it! Great format! 🥱

[@lexist7]

Nadu Horizons 3

[@mattsmith1825]

For those wondering about the cheating allegations In the quarter finals of ptmh3 Simon Nielsen was targeting Javier Dominguez with Sun Cleanser while Javier was under the effect of TOR. This happened in a key situation that lead to Simon winning the game and then the round and after Simon exiled TOR with Haywire Mite. Personally I don’t think it was intentional in anyway we all have misplays even at the highest level

[@Itachi__Uchiha]

It is also not cheating. It is a missed trigger on Javiers part. He is responsible for remembering his own triggered abilities. If Javier remembers his protection trigger his opponent just cast a 2 mana 1/4 that literally did nothing.

[@MrLeMacon]

​@@Itachi__Uchihaits not a missed trigger since he wouldnt be able to target him. Anyway the judges messed up on this one

[@Itachi__Uchiha]

@MrLeMacon no Javier missed his trigger for TOR protection. If Javier announced his protection trigger and then Simon cast sun cleanser and said target him it would be GRV for Simon.

[@Beale_]

@@Itachi__Uchiha "announced his protection trigger"

[@MrLeMacon]

@@Itachi__Uchiha ay what a miss, still playing the miss of your comrade is not very honorable...

[@heecks9375]

When Nadu BAN ? For all format and bring is friend the one ring thx

[@ThePenitentSquirrel]

I'm typically an ardent anti-ban (Get Gud instead) person, but I think you have to emergency ban Nadu. Yagmoth-Cauldron Toolbox was already very good, Nadu toolbox not only takes it to another level it might be the most efficient (and consistent) combo deck I have seen in Modern in a very long time.

[@Sicktoid]

Good job with the coverage! I've been following Top 8 broadcasts on and off since worlds 2005, where Karsten was playing in the finals and it felt oddly satisfying to see him in the booth now. The event coverage has definitely come a long way. Unfortunate that this format is probably the worst one I've personally witnessed during all these years.

[@ChromaToneMusic]

Yuuuuuhp I was longing for pod and twin 😢

[@bananabeam5602]

HOLY SHIT SUCH AN INTERESTING VIEWER EXPERIENCE!!!!

[@bjarkov12]

I can't hate on the players for playing the best deck, but man it would be nice to see some diversity in these tournaments

[@skylar5257]

There was definitely diverse decks, but diversity doesn’t win matches, Nadu does lol.

[@Kell_of_Kellers]

Bird is indeed the word.

[@LizaPlz]

why is simon all cut up? did he have to fight judges just to sit there?

[@GIJOE24306]

Insects.

[@erikmeissner6492]

Unbelievable that Nadu made it past R&D. Anyone can tell it’s Skullclamp levels of busted after just a glance.

[@anthonyboehmer6313]

Got bored watching Simon play Yu-gi-oh on his turn 2.

[@udhh2619]

😅

[@marcelomiqueles2141]

BOOOOOORIIIIING

[@florianl8273]

I watched a Hearthstone match the other day and it was more entertaining than this

[@gregformes3720]

It should have been Javier Dominguez lifting that trophy. He got absolutely screwed/possibly cheated. What's the point of having judges present if they miss so many things in game? Really disappointing, and shows major flaws in competitive magic.

[@Itachi__Uchiha]

That situation with Javier getting targeted by the sun cleanser would be ruled as a missed trigger on Javiers part. I have had this same thing happen to me but I was targeted with a Hedron Crab trigger and the judge told me It would be a missed trigger on the one rings protection. So no nobody cheated Javier forgot his own trigger and he is responsible for that. Is it unfortunate, yes. I would have loved to see Jeskai control go deeper into the top 8.

[@gregformes3720]

@@Itachi__UchihaI'm sorry that that happened to you, but I don't think that that's how it should be ruled at all. Regardless of if its a "missed trigger". The fact that something like this can happen in such a high stakes tournament like this shows MAJOR flaws in competitive magic. There is a judge sitting there who should have pointed it out immediately. If this were an arena event there would be no possibility of this happening. The fact that something like this can happen, and the judges excuse is that its a "missed trigger" is a pretty bad look for the competitive scene.

[@gregformes3720]

@@Itachi__Uchiha There were also instances where Simon would shuffle Javier's deck after casting endurance, as well as not allowing his opponents to cut his own deck after shuffling. I am not declaring Simon a cheater for any of this, but why aren't the judges doing anything?

[@ChromaToneMusic]

Yea pretty bad but it was on Javier he should have realized especially at such a critical time.

[@overcoldice]

i believe i saw dominguez tapping a plains to cast counterspell in that match, this one is obviously cheating what makes me wonder is, how come the judge doesnt know that, given dominguez playing with a full-art clearly-yellow-colored plains card to me, he still deserves the loss

[@leonmrs16]

Starts in 2:24. You are welcome.

[@as95ms98]

Shuko is going to get hit with the ban hammer cause WotC doesn't want to ban their shinny new bird. Just like how they banned Bridge from Below before banning Hogaak.

[@Guevon_Pajaro]

Just love to see Simon see so much success, both of these guys are class and awesome PPL. love how jovial and funny Simon is too. It's much better than an asshole being at the top finishes But yeah the meta is really miserable with this one new card that shouldn't have ever been printed. (WIZARDS! WTF!) 😂

[@ziegfeld4131]

He cheated to get here

[@FaithlessLooter]

Totally loved watching Pro Tour Nadu Horizons 3. It felt like Tekken 7 EVO Japan when everyone ran Leroy.

[@y9y-f9q]

Sam and Simon are both so likeable. I was somehow rooting for them both.

[@blaine2419]

Such an exciting set, its unfortunate that it was overshadowed in the most visible tournament that will show it off by the Bird.

[@bruinfan05]

I miss Marshall

[@TestName286]

I miss Rich Hagan

[@subzero308]

Rich, BDM and Marshall were the best ones.. LSV was good too wit them.

[@bernardorico8927]

I was excited to see modern again in a Pro Tour but man this is boring.

[@barnburner1238]

How does Simon’s deck win? I saw the list and doesn’t have oracle.

[@andree9412]

Looping lands with endurance and Sylvan safekeeper and bouncing all opponents nonland permanents with otawara and destroying all their lands with boseiju

[@GIJOE24306]

The combo is Shuko, Springheart, & Nadu.

[@poohjinn-qz3dx]

Very disappointing PT. There were numerous questionable plays by Simon Nielsen that were caught on camera this weekend, which should have garnered a judge getting involved.

[@ASCP_Certified]

Did no one notice it or when did it happen?

[@poohjinn-qz3dx]

@@ASCP_Certified There are a few reddit threads discussing it, it's honestly shameful.

[@hd_1635]

@@ASCP_Certified use target Player effect with Ring guard from the other Player. Does not offer the Deck to cut.... thats what i saw and i missed the semi final.

[@jadegrace1312]

@@hd_1635 Javier Dominguez never announced or demonstrated awareness of his one ring trigger at any point. He missed his trigger. Simon Nielsen was not doing anything wrong with the Suncleanser

[@jomaniwan804]

@@jadegrace1312 it is implied that when you cast The Ring, you get protection regardless you announce it or not. Now, when suncleanser entered, the target opponent ability should have fizzled since targeting Javier with protection is not a valid target.

[@williamw8590]

Missing ring protection does not make Simon a cheater, yall. His opponent missed it, and its a mistake that weve ALL made after a ring is removed from play

[@poohjinn-qz3dx]

What about Nielson refusing to let his opponent shuffle or cut his deck after evoking a Endurance on himself? Witnessed that happen multiple times

[@williamw8590]

@@poohjinn-qz3dx he cannot REFUSE to let his opponent shuffle his deck, what are you talking about? He might not have presented but it's pretty normal for them to not do that after something like an endurance evoke that doesn't matter

[@poohjinn-qz3dx]

@@williamw8590 there were multiple times he tried to bully his opponent during play, and in that light it makes the play against Javier very sketchy/motivated......Numerous times he shuffled his own deck off endurance or a fetchland, and very rarely he would offer his deck to his opponent for cut. Instead, he would try to push the pace of the match and divert attention away from his opponent actually shuffling his deck/etc. Just rewatch the match against Javier. I really just wish there was more footage of this scumbag this weekend.

[@williamw8590]

@@poohjinn-qz3dx this is totally normal after playing so much magic in 48 hours. If you want to cut your opponents deck, you cut it. If they don't let you, you call a judge and they get DQ'd. Y'all are crazy, a lot of his matches this top 32 were against his teammates and friends lol

[@BrendanSauer]

Endurance doesn't shuffle your deck. It puts cards on the bottom. ​@@poohjinn-qz3dx

[@udhh2619]

It's not cheating if the other player forgot to call out the missed protection

[@ajuggas]

you can not unequip......we should start there

[@MrHyde-kc3dv]

Cool tournament, modern is my favorite format, but yeah boring decks this time jo Wizards.

[@jonathanvallario3701]

On his 30th birthday🎉🎉 congratulations

[@HalianTheProtogen]

Nadu should never have given that ability to a single other creature than himself.

[@patbateman69420]

I would love to hear what the players are saying. Commentators annoying af.

[@alexfu7329]

Wotc /Hasbro just. won't. learn. And the Problem with this is, that it won't even matter....

[@tyst5927]

I learned and I quit playing constrcuted magic a long time ago. Id rather roll dice in an alley with crackheads. More skill than playing magic nowadays

[@thatguydennis2]

Unpopular opinion: arena is easier to follow for the viewer and cheating is harder to do

[@subzero308]

But paper magic is way way better.

[@mateusmartins1200]

horrivel a transmissao , tem que colocar do lado cada carta que é jogada pra gente ler

[@Tirantekk]

That headset dent

[@hd_1635]

Missed ring trigger to win against javier , and probably try to not cut the deck in final. GG to nielson and judges. Some call it luck, some call it skill and some would like to see all rounds from him to see what happen without cam.

[@jadegrace1312]

Javier missed his trigger lol. There's nothing sketchy at all about the Suncleanser play.

[@hd_1635]

@@jadegrace1312 and why does he not attack in this round ? I also congratulate to the judges.

[@jadegrace1312]

@@hd_1635 I don't know and I don't care lol. Simon is completely within his rights under the rules to target Javier with the Suncleanser trigger since Javier hasn't previously demonstrated awareness of his ring trigger. At this point Javier lets it through so his trigger is missed.

[@hd_1635]

@@jadegrace1312 then dont comment when you dont care :D

[@jadegrace1312]

@@hd_1635 I do care about people like you who don't know anything about magic accusing Simon Nielsen of cheating. I just don't care why he didn't attack cause it doesn't matter at all.

[@erikwedendal7781]

Why ban? Just print more cards!! ^^

[@amazingpeptobismol]

Congrats to nielsen, it's been a long time coming

[@Rallylabs]

This feels a lot like the glimpse of nature elf decks from years ago. Very broken and super long and annoying to play against or watch.

[@Sicktoid]

Exactly what I was thinking! Very little interaction and excessively long turns of MTG solitaire.

[@electric_dream_machine]

I can't believe the person who designed Nadu makes more money than me. Imagine being paid to do a shitty job like that.

[@chalkenjoyer]

Card designers never learned from Oko and Uro

[@Tylerbremner]

Why are Simons hands and arms so bruised up? Even has a bandaid on one arm. Was he at the bar last night fist fighting other Pros?

[@h3rtzen]

Damage from playing vs Burn during first rounds

[@Tylerbremner]

@@h3rtzenwell the man slept through the first few rounds of a pro tour one year so I figured he liked the night life but the burn answer makes more sense 🔥 😂

[@Leuber]

He was in a fight with a bird I reckon.

[@Tylerbremner]

@@Leuber should have bolted it

[@SCADU-MAXXING]

Investigate the Nielsen vs Javier match and hard press the judges that didn't do their job.

[@jadegrace1312]

There's nothing to investigate. I'm still waiting for you to admit you were just wrong about how triggered abilities work and you were spreading bs

[@Higley1234]

​@@jadegrace1312cheating happened with endurance shuffling and stacking triggers wrong to get more value out of nadu. The one ring situation was very sketchy but we can't tell for sure if it was cheating without the table audio.

[@ryancropper9343]

Free my boy Hogaak...

[@DerTrollhammer]

Hausaufgaben: Drakensang auf dem PC

[@romino_freex453]

yall gave hogaak a whole summer. nadu yall won’t give 3 weeks lol.

[@pr0fess0rbadass]

They wont ban yet. They haven't sold enough boxes yet.

[@Kikxz]

30th??? Dude looks 42

[@haydenbuters4659]

If you don't have anything nice to say about people's appearances, it's best not to say anything at all.

[@Kikxz]

@@haydenbuters4659 are you ageist? So if I said he looked 20 you wouldn’t comment would you? When has looking older been a bad thing? You’re ageist, bro

[@subzero308]

​@@haydenbuters4659😂😂 don't be so sensitive he didnt even say anything terrible ctfu.

[@M.Nation_mtg]

I thought Simon got disqualified for cheating?? I briefly read about it on x(Twitter) ?!! Am I wrong? What do I know. Or am I thinking about someone else.

[@TheKaijudist]

Someone else

[@williamw8590]

You're thinking of Bart Van Etten, someone with an actual history of cheating

[@xXSiamoXx]

Love it how few men are represented in these events... very diverse

[@elleeVee]

yugioh ass decks, javier getting cheated out by a scummy illegal target, judges missing it/not caring, definitely one of the worst PTs ever

[@bananabeam5602]

Nadu summer, and winter, and summer again probably cus they'll just ban shuko or sum shit

[@KyleTremblayTitularKtrey]

Ban nadu ban one ring thats my ted talk

[@Volkan-uh2by]

Good job wotc .....you ruined another Pro Tour .

[@abusus75]

Mh sets are pure mistakes

[@h3rtzen]

@@abusus75but..but they sell packs…

[@radigenstudios]

Blame Hasbro

[@HastyClip]

Wizards should lose the Magic license for what they did to the Pro Tour. What a disgrace.

[@bradensorensen966]

This is everything wrong with magic. People just playing the same deck lists until bullshit mirrors are 100% the finals should not be encouraged.

[@fabiorossi6733]

Ban't Nadu!

[@MiltonGale-p2x]

Dickinson Fords

[@TestName286]

This video has 159 dislikes, and 5 likes Censor all you want, Wizards dropped the ball. Print less cards. Stop letting middle managers push product fatigue and power creep, they don't care about this game.

[@gatorchomp9607]

Quit talking over the players

[@savinobalducci6148]

everyone complaining about Nadu, Modern, the meta, MH3, the coverage, Simon Nielsen, the judges,cheating etc. can you guys just complain or do you like, have something constructive to say? plus, none forces to follow and support something you don't like

[@ConstpatedKire]

Saw no one complain about mh3 in general, set is awesome. On the other hand nadu being the top 4 and the judges\gameplay were extremely disappointing.

[@savinobalducci6148]

@@ConstpatedKire broken cards exist from the dawn of time, they get printed and if they too strong, they get banned, I don't think that's a pattern that really can be avoided in a TCG; in regards to the cheating/judges question my understanding is that if a player forgets to announce a trigger that trigger simply doesn't happen and the other player can behave as so, so I don't think the judges did nothing wrong, they would have if they told Javier Dominguez about his One Ring trigger practically giving him an advantage

[@ConstpatedKire]

@@savinobalducci6148 They were quick to point out Nielsen's forgotten draw step though. My point is the gameplay as an experience was awful regardless of judges being there or not

[@marcelomiqueles2141]

Ban the bird

[@JohnRNewAccountNumber3]

The constructive criticism is ban Nadu and get better and more consistent judges.

[@simon_gautherin]

Ban the bird...and the pronouns....

[@Duskraven377]

what an awful top 8…

[@12345678938594]

seaman nosome

[@DrSiddha]

The person who designed Nadu and the people who approved it should give resignation from wotc

[@viciousbros]

Dear wizard of the coast. COULD YOU PLEAASE STOP BREAKING THE GAME? I Star testing the caaaards jeez, make magic great again (?

[@Billchu13]

Skullclamp was excusable, Nadu is not. I quit modern after mh2. Feeling vindicated.

[@GIJOE24306]

Skullclamp was eventually banned.

[@Billchu13]

@GIJOE24306 I can see how the mistake with Skullclamp happened. Not sure how this happened. One overworked intern playtested this set before they laid them off in December.

[@subzero308]

Yet here u r watching it 😂

[@Billchu13]

@subzero308 before mh2 I was playing modern. Now I'm just watching the dumpster fire from a distance

[@madskillswills]

How do they let a cheater be the PT champ? How embarassing.

[@ASCP_Certified]

In this game or did he cheat throughout the tourny?

[@mtgkid0205]

​@ASCP_Certified he didn't cheat in the sense I don't think he knew he was cheating as he's a very honest player with no cheating background and the card is new and weird. Basically in qf Javier Dominguez had one ring protection and Simon cast suncleanser which more or less locks Javier out but it targets him so he shouldn't have been able to. If he had played correctly Javier would have had his mana open on the next turn responded and have a 99% of winning. Super fucked up mainly on the judge end with multiple watching such an important match without noticing

[@udhh2619]

Ya Simon wouldn't cheat it's just a hard format right now ​@@mtgkid0205

[@MrLeMacon]

​@@ASCP_Certified1/8 games he targeted the energy deck player while one ring protection was on. The creature he did it with prevent the player to have energy counter and his opponent had 2 clear the skies that use energy to wrath the board...

[@ArchaeusDaedolon]

@@mtgkid0205well the biggest part that suggests cheating was the fact he deliberately chose to not attack. It wasn’t deliberate “cheating” but it came across like one of those players constantly trying to take advantage of opponents lack of attention/rules knowledge.

[@elianbadilla8843]

Why can´t the narrators just shut up when players talk?

[@mouse2588]

Ayo, miss me with the pronouns under the player's name!

[@subzero308]

Facts I don't care bout that weird garbage... Ur either a man or a woman simple as that... A man can't be a woman and a woman can't be a man.

[@subzero308]

Facts

[@fabiorossi6733]

Unban Fury😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@loganshy2570]

Still lame. I'm in my 20s and I yearn for an actual game. Bring back bogels and izzet. Now energy is just as disappointing and pushed

[@danieldolci1252]

Great players, orrible meta.

[@lucianomunoz2075]

Simon Nielsen shouldn't be the champion. He isnt the real pro tour champion Javier Domínguez should be the finalist.

[@PsychoticSashimiS]

Simon is a real one

[@SilaYoga]

MH3 Block Constructed

[@Leuber]

Stopped watching after 10 minutes and will quit modern for good. A decision that was actually a long time coming.

[@Pubbin]

Wow, well, that was a pretty stupid match!

[@julianseidel7926]

This nadu ist cleary just a missprint. Dont they playtest :D so borig to watch

[@TheCherryUrban]

Wtf? He/him lmao

[@feliperomeug]

Congratulations, Daddy hasbro. You soulless corporate lords will keep pushing wizards to their destruction by milking people with these rotating, super broken cards at every modern/commander sets. Ban Nadu? With all those juicy packs still available? Nah, lets ban shuko to allow the format some "time do adjust" and to "explore options". You guys are a joke...

[@dmlgg4773]

BAN

[@grahamdrake7941]

What a pitiful performance this was. Wizards should be ashamed for peddling this nonsense.

[@dagupanledlights5381]

most boring pro tour ever with same deck from semis till finals

[@the1prodig432]

As someone new to magic, I hate watching games with real cards. It’s part of the reason I never tried magic until recently. It’s just so boring and impossible to understand what’s happening. Go back to using arena, I promise you that you’ll get more new fans. Edit: Just realized you have pronouns under the player names 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@subzero308]

I mean technically modern isn't for new players well watching isn't anyways but yea the whole pronouns thing is garbage and needs to go.

[@harrison_daniel_studio]

Boring af, Nadu is braindead card design.