Financial Trauma: How To Heal Your Poverty Mindset I Money Psychology I Inner Work Library [73/500]

[@jordanthornton]

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[@christianorduna4772]

My mom told me once that she would skip on buying new heels for her office job so she could buy me the newest videogame. I would see her frowning over bills too. We did fine but the people around us doing better financially made me feel poor. As a young adult I did great financially but quickly lost my money. Thankfully I had bought alot of self help material that my mom ended up listening to and then she did well for herself. Now she can help me out when I need it and we've both done therapy so we are less of a traumatic mess heh. Thanks for the video Jordan! Love your stuff, going to buy all the books you recommend :)

[@jordanthornton]

Inspiring aspects of your story here, brother. Happy that you both got the support you need and likewise wishing you the best with the reading journey ahead - although be careful on buying 'all the books' I recommend, it might not be a wise financial move when I'm sharing so many haha!

[@christianorduna4772]

@@jordanthornton worth it in the long run!! :P

[@erinlovestolaugh57]

Whoa, "...give it away, too much responsibility..." really hit home. Thank you! I've been looking for this clue

[@jordanthornton]

One of the harder patterns to spot, for sure. Thanks for being here to work through it.

[@Laz_RS]

We had locks on our cupboards growing up. Didn't know how weird that was until reflecting on it as an adult. I got good at picking locks at least.

[@jordanthornton]

Saw similar situations in childhood friends... weird isn't it?

[@havefaithtarot]

Wow, very interesting what you brought up about expensive gifts being used against you. I feel like because my mother was raised poor and my parents were divorced after I was 7 I have very conflicting views on money. On one hand I know I deserve it and have no problem investing in things that I feel I deserve and would benefit my life in the long run, however, there’s another part of me that tries to also spend as little money as possible depending on what I’m spending it on. The part about someone using expensive gifts against you caught my attention though because I understand that feeling of being reluctant to accept something expensive because I have a hard time allowing someone else to use me as an excuse to boost their own ego. For instance, I currently do not have a car and ride the bus to and from work and walk all over town trying to get wifi and don’t even pay for electricity at this point because I’m trying to do my best to eliminate my expenses and be self-sustainable. I bought myself a bunch of powerbanks and solar panel and I charge things either at work or in public places with “free electricity” while I’m using free wifi because of my purposely limited data package because I don’t want to give a company more money that I want to because they purposely slow people down by slowing down data speeds after a certain amount even though their plans are “unlimited” .. all the while my dad lives in a $400,000 house on a couple acres of land and doesn’t even know and has repeatedly told me that he would buy me a new car, but I refuse to allow that because of how he’s acted in the past when he’s purchased expensive gifts for me and then just brings it up constantly to put himself on a pedestal and trying to act like I’m incapable of doing certain things myself. I would rather carry around a bunch of shit to recharge all over town than give him that kind of satisfaction. He claims buying me a car would be with no strings attached but I can still feel them so it’s more satisfying to me to just eliminate what I can to do things myself than to allow someone to “help” me so that they can feel good about themselves. There’s obviously some underlying emotions affecting things here..

[@carlorizzo827]

Thanks👍PHEW what a hot potato. Massive violence🔪over $. I brought it on myself as i was a compulsive thief in early childhood. Much later i understood it was driven by deprivation. When i understood nothing stolen would alleviate that loss, only then did i put away the behavior

[@IntegrationpathHeartBodyMind]

I find that my somatic work has been easier and more graceful in healing because of nourishing my body as much as possible with nutritious foods and ironically, because I am getting more nutrients, I eat less and so it's actually not more expensive to purchase natural foods despite what those in "lack mentality" often say or suggest.Also, I noticed years ago when I put even just a little bit of $ in savings (I had $100 bucks at the time) - that I add more (albeit painfully slow process) so I feel it opens up a space of "I deserve this, I will take responsibility for myself and my sovereignty" energy, which I think helps alongside active de-programming from the scarcity mindset instilled in my childhood. It has taken many decades now but I do see positive changes and it's absolutely going to continue to improve. Thank you for pointing out the spiritual bypassing strategies as b.s. because "imagining and manifesting $" is absolutely an avoidance of doing the hard work and from my experience-this is an ongoing healing process, like all other traumas and it takes genuine dedication and hard shadow work! It is not some "fairy tale" idea of how we are all going to write a blank check to the universe and call it a day.

[@jordanthornton]

Genuine dedication to healing, exactly. It's great to hear some of your story with healing these pattern, especially your attitude towards personal nourishment and self-investment. Thank you for sharing.

[@IntegrationpathHeartBodyMind]

@@jordanthornton 💛

[@monahanu]

Ooo this is a good one! I got so many examples! I’ll just go with one! My family was poor, and we never had much sweets or snacks. I remember when I was a child, my parents would go to the store and stock up on all the good stuff when we were having guests. As a kid, I was confused. They did the same when they would visit friends, but whenever my sister or I would ask for anything, we would be told off. “No, I don’t have money” was always the answer. Naturally, I felt confused and let down, like family friends were more important to my parents. Thanks for the great video Jordan, as always 🌹☺️

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for sharing this here - I appreciate you.

[@monaeisa9150]

The memory of not able to get the barbie doll I wanted because it was expensive. The memory of waiting whole school semester to get a gift from the toy’s store, which again was with limited budget and never what I wanted even if I chose with the budget because my younger sister chose something else and now she wants whats I want besides what she wants and this is over the budget and I always had to go with her choice of toys. The longing inside of me as a child and then after the waiting never getting what I truly desired had effected alot in my life. The memory of always having to spend little as a help for my father who was doing well ,now as I see it, but the constant feelings of lack affected hugely in me to the degree of entering a business and having fears about how much I was earning and lots of lack of clarity which led to the money to never be acknowledged to me or given to me truly. I can go on and on and on..Lack inside is such an ugly void and I agree with you that money trauma can be a huge path to spiritual growth and in my experience it is as you said a continuous awareness of my everyday experience and working through it.

[@jordanthornton]

I appreciate your final sentences about money trauma being an issue on the spiritual path as well, thank you for sharing some of your stories.

[@SdW.8]

Super fascinating! I've been working on this exact trauma for over 5 years. I finally feel like I've broken that cycle by going all the way back to childhood issues through my family upbringing. Thank you for sharing this and recommending some books to guide us further. Much love from the Midwest US 💖

[@jordanthornton]

Inspiring, thank you for sharing some of your story here 🌲

[@nessy4424]

Thank you, Jordan. Just this morning I journaled about the abuse I experienced related to finances from child through adulthood within my family system. I would love to share my story, but always want to avoid trauma dumping. Which I realize is still slightly attached to "not exposing" some malicious behaviors within my family, or seeming ungrateful. It's a hard cycle to step out of with grace. As someone who doesn't "look like they've experienced trauma", I found this video incredibly comforting and relatable. It is a journey, but knowing that others have gone through very similar experiences brings a bit of peace.

[@alchimiaspiritului]

You've given me so many revelations with this material. I remember that when I was little, asking continuously for sweets, as kids do, my parents told me We don't have the money. They surely afforded an icecream, but the wording they chose imprinted on my brain, that all pleasures are forbidden due to the lack of money. Now, as parent, whenever my child is asking for something sweet, I am telling him the truth. I am not buying it now, because I am afraid it will affect your teeth. I am telling him straight forward that it is my own fear, and that I can afford the damn candy. It would be interesting to bring up the topic of delayed gratification. This expectance people have about getting something in the future, and not now. Many of the followers of my channel, praise the content I provide, but attach their own narative of Yes, it's true, but I've got a long way to getting there. This is a self imposed resistance, through which they don't allow themselves to become wiser, or more conscious in the present moment. There's always something better, somewhere far away, that is unreachable yet. That is why many keep their passions as hobbies and not make a success out of it.

[@rienavoir8250]

Nothing wrong with getting clothes from thrift stores! It's definitely more ecological and you can get good quality stuff that lasts. I guess it's all about the feeling behind it, if you feel poor wearing thrift store clothes then that's your issue. Obviously you can't get everything from thift stores, but we definitely have enough clothes and fabric in circulation on the planet right now, not to mention the slavery still hapening on some cotton fields and sweatshops. But yeah i agree about getting good trainers, and buying quality stuff when you do buy new.

[@DaLeeza]

Holy moly your voice is immediately calming 😅

[@juanitawatson3049]

This is so good Jordan. Thank you 🙏 I think you could do an entire master class focusing on financial abuse and poverty/lack mindset. My real healing didn’t and couldn’t happen until I was able to get out of survival and support myself financially. I had no idea how foundational the money aspect was for healing. Definitely not a trauma dump ❤

[@daej5702]

This entire video was necessary for me, thank you so much for all you do ❤

[@ChrisTalley-ei9qg]

I have not shared a KZbin video with friends in a long time. This topic strikes a chord with me, but not only that. You are in touch with your humanity. Your demeanor is warm and inviting as you broach these tricky topics of inner work, trauma, self exploration. I think you have the right set of tools and the heart to connect with people around me. I'm sharing this video and inviting people to look further into your work. Love from Birmingham, Alabama.

[@jordanthornton]

I grew up in Birmingham, England - so I'll take this nice synchronicity moment with extra gratitude. Happy to help, and this touches me.

[@evelynskyeblaise]

Congratulations Jordan on overcoming so much of the poverty conditioning - it's wonderful to know that you're nourishing yourself, just as these videos continue to nourish us. I remember being given a lot of money as an inheritance, and feeling intensely resented for it. I couldn't get rid of it quickly enough, which compounded the guilt of having done so while knowing that it took twenty years for my grandparents to save it for me. Until very recently, being well-paid (or paid at all) equalled guilt, punishment and disownment. Thankfully, after having viewed this video, I will be mindful of the pitfalls mentioned, even after having acquired different financial cushions in the future. Yet another transformative episode.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for sharing so transparently here about some of your story. That level of self awareness is appreciated, and I've appreciated your recent comments too!

[@evelynskyeblaise]

@@jordanthornton Absolutely, and likewise! You set the precedent for vulnerability here, and it's inspiring and equally appreciated.

[@yoelgoldberger6284]

Wow! Jordan you are on point! Always on the ball. The way you just get it is a talent on its own! This video is perfect . Thank you 🙏 😊

[@jordanthornton]

I’ll take perfection when it lands, thank you!

[@michellew5641]

Thank you, Jordan. This.

[@jordanthornton]

Thanks for listening - wishing you well with your money work!

[@RCCurtright]

A book that has been wonderful for me is “Money is Spiritual”. It is written by a former Evangelical Pastor. It discusses some of the disempowering narratives around money that are absorbed growing up in Evangelical spaces. But he gets into the deeper parts of how our mindsets around money gets wired in at the deeply subconscious “spiritual” level and how to change those mindsets from within.

[@jordanthornton]

Reminds me of another book I once read 'Business Secrets From The Bible' - money can be used for great good, agreed.

[@JAMESCARNEY273]

Well done Jordan this was a great one! You mentioned the person who believes they can`t afford to spend money on therapy the need for themselves...I actually started therapy and quit. At the time I explained it as having to choose between the therapy and being able to spend any money on me and my wife as a couple. It is possible that I could have found a way to make it work. One way I notice this poverty mindset is with skateboarding, something I like to do, but don`t do enough of. I basically make sure that my wife and little boy get their financial needs met. I deny myself mostly. I would like to get better skate shoes, but always go for cheap ones. I would also like to get a second complete set up, specifically for riding on wooden bowls and ramps. Also, a tripod to film myself, and to visit better parks that I would need to get in taxis to reach, but I am afraid to spend the money. I do think that there is some of the poverty trauma in all this. My mother was staunchly anti-capitalist and a radical feminist type. I never would have been encouraged to see myself as worth spending on, nor to put value on earning to have luxury in life.

[@jordanthornton]

I reckon you should get those shoes & another setup for wooden bowls 😉

[@Ayodiba]

I find what's helping me improve my money mindset - as in seeing the abundant opportunities where money can be made and also feeling deserving of it - is acknowledging that my previously contracted views are/feel rational when attributed to my False Self. But when I begin to identify more with my unbounded and limitless True self, it no longer makes sense. When money is just energy and expression, and the True Self is full of that vitality, they fit together soo seamlessly.

[@jordanthornton]

Very nicely said - I especially appreicate your point about the False Self. Good catch.

[@pumpkin9299]

Just recently been thinking of my financial trauma and the way it makes me feel about money now. When I saw the title of this new video I honestly started laughing and cheering, thinking how on time it was. I could relate to your stories, so thank you for sharing them. Not many people talk about this stuff and sometimes it feels like I am the only one who ever struggled with money. I have an older brother and a twin sister. My father is very generous with me and my sister, while my mother used to say that we didn't deserve the money he sometimes spent on us. And with my brother it's the exact opposite. I remember shopping for the new school year many years ago. That summer my brother manipulated mother to buy him an expensive pair of trainers for school. And so when it was time to buy new trainers for myself and my sister, mother told us that she didn't have money for it. I felt awful about myself because of it. Thought I wasn't worth new clothes and shoes. And I felt even worse when in 3 months my brother completely ruined those new cool trainers and parents had to buy him another pair.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for sharing, I'm wishing you the absolute best.

[@bradcarr3412]

Hi Jordan. Another excellent video that, once again, resonates deeply with me. Keep up the great work, despite the words from the naysayers that I am seeing over on your IG stories. You’re helping and inspiring many, including myself. Thanks, Brad

[@jordanthornton]

Cheers brother - learning how to get used to more visibility here, and all that comes with it. Thanks for the support - will keep going.

[@MichaelWilliams-bx2ty]

Would you ever consider doing a video on cleaning trauma? I get extremely stressed anytime I have to clean or am confronted about untidiness.

[@jordanthornton]

This is an excellent topic - I'll make this as soon as I can, thank you for asking!

[@MichaelWilliams-bx2ty]

@@jordanthornton Thanks Jordan!

[@Arttruthseeker]

So relevant and healing! Very useful and insightful. I deeply appreciate the depth of your sharing 🙏💜🌻🏡

[@jordanthornton]

Wishing you the best with healing your money wounds and getting greater financial expansion in the months ahead!

[@Anonymous-pe5bh]

Hi just saw this video great great insightful messages. I was wondering if you’d consider doing a video on eating habits and over eating to feel a sense of safety. Thank you

[@jordanthornton]

Yes I can, screenshotted and will do my best. I recommend checking out 'The Pregnant Virgin' by Marion Woodman for a deep psychological text which includes some of these issues!

[@alchimiaspiritului]

Another fantastic material! It took me years to understand that the poverty mindset has nothing to do with the amount of wealth one has. At the beginning of starting my KZbin channel, I was considering a cheap microphone, and then I had a sudden realization. If it doesn't sound well, I will be discouraged, and will probably stop filming altogether. Buying something of good quality to read books (at first) increased my will to create more content. I liked the sound of the children stories I was reading. And about the prerequisites of healing this trauma (you said having money- which is very true), I would say to those who don't have it yet, not to just sit around whispering mantras, but becoming aware of all the opportunities and work they can do so they earn the money. Success looks pretty much like hard work. This should not be avoided.☺

[@jordanthornton]

“Success looks pretty much like hard work” - both of your comments here are appreciated, and I’m glad to have prompted some of these reflections! 💴🌲

[@marcelaniz1745]

Complex theme...family with poverty mind going from consumer of cheap and secondhand to consumer of every new junkproduct, including food. So. Much learning , much undoing, much creating new structures. Still can't see myself reading those book, though.. as if they were, as you said, something for other people. In the best case because it's a 'rich man theme' and in the worst because it will never change anyway😮...strong introspection work needed on this one😁 I'm on my way, thank you💪🙏And thank you for sharing that it's a trauma that affects many layers and dimensions of ourselves.🌺

[@jordanthornton]

New video on money trauma out today, some more guidance in there if you're interested.

[@kitcassim4156]

Great topic. I can relate. I was always made to feel guilty for receiving any amount of money at birthdays, etc. was forced to write individual thank you letters even for just $20. And the only advice is was given for getting money was to either manipulate or work low minimum wage service jobs even with a $100k bachelor degree and regardless of how much work experience, skills and knowledge I acquired afterward. My mother was never able to perceive any of my skills as having any value. The only thing she thought I could give of value in exchange for money was to serve people their food in exchange for a few dollars tips!

[@kitcassim4156]

Thankfully, I’ve learned how to make business plans and pitch decks and earn increasing amounts of funding for my visions, talents and advanced and unique skill sets and lately I’ve been learning to make this very profitable for my funders as well. It’s been a journey

[@inspired11]

Thank you for making this! Please make a video on relationship trauma and how it could play out for men and women. I have tried to figure out both money and love first by getting hurt and then uncovering the trauma but I still have not been able to uncover all of it and heal the shame and worthiness issues.

[@jordanthornton]

An important topic, and something which I've covered a few times - check out my latest shadow work playlist for some relationship videos in there. You'll find some good exercise which should help - good luck.

[@gailaltschwager7377]

Thank you as always, Jordan!

[@jordanthornton]

Appreciate you!

[@therealrayster]

Hi Jordan, yeah it's kinda a trauma dump tehee but it is essential as a way of healing. We human beings need to exercise this part of us that makes us human, the power of vulnerability. That way sharing experiences is one way of healing too! Anyway, sharing your personal story as a boy, also reminds me of my own personal experiences as well. Like you, I grew up with strong self-esteem, I was able to make things possible like having my own computer (when internet is still in dial-up at that time!). I think most of us are programmed into like this by society, to be easily controlled and fear not having a 'job'. Oh btw I just lost my job the other day. That's why I remember this video of yours a month ago. If I was able to make things possible back then as a child, then with more tools in my toolbox now and more awareness, we can penetrate anything! Cheers to us living in this generation!

[@gatobuvictor]

your voice😩❤️🙏🏽

[@jordanthornton]

🌲✌🏻

[@dianevierra781]

idk what to say here. I was adopted into a middle class family, and my mom and aunt wanted to give me and my siblings everything, if they could....but my relationship with money definitely changed as I got older and went out on my own. there is that voice in my own head that reminds me how quickly the money I earn will disappear once I spend it.

[@jordanthornton]

Appreciate your sharing as always, thank you 🌲

[@MaroKhal]

Great video Brother ! After my fathers death, my mother who was a stay at home mom became the financial organiser and that came with alot of stress and guilt and anxiety around money thankfully she had family around to help her but that anxiety got transferred to us (her children) And i find myself these days anxious about money but have a tendency to either be guilty about impulsive spending or spend in a vengeful way by saying that money is not the most important thing.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for sharing some of your story here, it will be useful for someone to read your words. Wishing you the absolute best with you money anxieties - hope this helped.

[@msevolution2317]

How timely. I took a big step last year to purchase a course to learn a lucrative skill set in copywriting and marketing. That self investment brought recriminations from my the partner, he made me feel like I didn’t deserve it and some part of me agreed. I’m now actually completing the course, it’s been painful to watch others complete it and prosper whilst I was just stuck. I grew up in poverty my mum - a single parent of two, was always worried, I always chose the cheapest option and I never asked for anything. I went through periods of stealing money from her rather than ask around age 10 and again in my late teens. I’ve consistently under earned through out my adult life despite acquiring a uni degree. I’ll readily give money to my family if they’re in need but bargain my needs down to the bare minimum, second hand clothes, reduced food items the whole nine yards. Financial trauma is real and I’m working through it especially generating more money and the inability to hold onto it. I’m learning to reframe my thinking now before I get into higher income ranges

[@jordanthornton]

Great reflections here, I can tell you’ve been doing the work and seem to have a solid idea about your next steps ahead - keep going, my friend 🌲

[@JVSFitnessPros]

Thank you.

[@jordanthornton]

You're welcome!

[@gitu_tg]

Woww.. Much awaited topic.. 💚🙏🏽🙂 Thank you..

[@jordanthornton]

Hard topic, hope this is valuable for you.

[@gitu_tg]

@@jordanthornton Having had my education through charity- I am literally scared of money.. I self-sabotage and close all ways of making money; I keep on worrying about its lack day in and out! 😐 I will definitely read this book..

[@gitu_tg]

15:25 books

[@avertingapathy3052]

The trauma dump is real. Just stirred up all the memories of patental penny pinching. My brother went obsessively into workaholism and not spending anything on himself and is doing well financially at least. I sort of neglected importance of finances and overspent while in my 20s but slowly coming to now. Thanks for addressing something that seems to be largely ignored in newage circles probably because of the shame. Like pfft class / education/ finances are a step below the ethereal woo.

[@jordanthornton]

Here to have the difficult conversations, I appreciate you likewise reflecting. These stories go deep.

[@DDDD17890]

So I feel like this is my problem: i can not seem to get ahead in life because of all my trauma, including money trauma. I have tried to earn more money in different ways but I (now realize) have all these blockages. So I never get anywhere. So you say I first have to make more money to unravel my poverty mindset. But that is infact the thing I just cannot seem to do. So now this feel like a problem I won't be able to solve. I do very much thank you for this video though. This made me realize how much pain I have here and how much work I need to do before I will be able to get ahead. Just unsure how I will be able to do that now if I need to fix my problem by doing the thing that is my problem. It makes me so confused and sad.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for sharing some of your story here, and I hope that the other money trauma videos I've made can likewise continue the reflections. You can search 'money' on my page and you'll find a few more - keep going.

[@DDDD17890]

@@jordanthornton Thanks so much, I will do that!

[@zinasherif7791]

I did not grow up in poverty ,, my parents were educated and were earning decent salaries. I’m still puzzled thou by their scarcity mindset and stinginess. They are so scared of using and spending money on anything! They go for the cheapest on the menue and all that stuff, very price conscious and very stingy. I became the same ,, very cautious with my money and too scared to spend in anything to the point I stay away from investments all together. My sister and brother became the opposite, overspending and wasting every penny they earn like there is no tomorrow. How do you explain that ?

[@jordanthornton]

Going to take your comment and make another video on this exact situation when I can - thank you for asking, and I hope to do what I can. In the meantime, people have very different reactions to trauma - and family dynamics can often be split. Seems like you became hyper conservative and your siblings became far too open - the balance of course is integration.

[@rossal8]

Great material as always. My perfectionist and impatient part wants me to say that sometimes you use too many words!! I even considered offering you colaboration in editing the videos :) I feel ok to be considered arrogant and wont be the first time. I guess you are being real and put out the material as it suits you. help requested - I allow bad financial decisions get worse and worse, kind of panic freeze response that has been disastrous. i had a lot of success on the stock market but then instead of closing my positions and protecting assets I ignored worsening situations and lost all my gains and some capital too. Somehow this is ok!!! It is possible that i am used to having constant money trauma and dont allow myself to be affluent. Similarly i felt very at risk, having money was terrifying!

[@rossal8]

In addition I notice its very difficult for me to focus on this issue and recently am trying to have a shadow conversation, it pretty strange how i can kinda ignore such an important issue.

[@gabrielacarlton9781]

Thank you for your transparency, I definitely needed this advice , how do you find financial independence after divorce and having been a stay at home mom for many years and get back on your feet after being stuck in a mindset of lack,an issue I’m sure I am not the first woman to need your help on this one 🙏

[@jordanthornton]

Screenshotted your question, and will make a video on this as soon as I can - wishing you the best in the meantime, Gabriela.

[@SoundandShadowCollective]

The problem I have with spending on myself or investing in myself is that I find that when I do, I'm disappointed in or by the thing or service I receive. For example with therapy, I've spent a lot of time and money on therapy, but I've never felt like a therapist helped me more than something I read in a book. So, I have a fear of investing in myself, on mentors or therapeutics, because I fear the inevitable disappointment of feeling like I've wasted my time and money on the wrong thing. Does anyone have suggestions, book recommendations, or a search term that can help me resolve this fear of disappointment?

[@jordanthornton]

You'll love the new series by my good friend Yasmene, she's focused on disappointment. KZbin search: "Tired and Disappointed: The Advice That Fails You (And What To Do Instead), Yasmene Badereldin" - and let her know I sent you if you feel so inclined. She's great.

[@SoundandShadowCollective]

@@jordanthornton Thank you!

[@roadopener]

You should do an ASMR “financial freedom manifestation “ hypnosis program. It would be a big hit

[@jordanthornton]

I hope to never live to see the day 😂

[@roadopener]

@@jordanthornton But bro you could be making millions on the side

[@jordanthornton]

@@roadopener Against my values, not worth it lol

[@moritji6090]

Do you think it makes a big difference reading a physical book vs reading a digital book on a kindle for example? A difference energetically / highlighting digitally vs Highlighting physically ?

[@jordanthornton]

Been waiting for this question! Will make a video as soon as I can - there is certainly a difference. Physical books are superior for this kind of work.

[@moritji6090]

@@jordanthornton Thank You looking forward to it 😊

[@eco.patterns]

Question, how do you handle coaching/mentoring clients of colour differently than white clients? Especially around a topic such as money?

[@jordanthornton]

Interesting question - I don't speak differently to people based on somebody's skin colour - that idea seems out of place and potentially even racist? I've worked with succesful people of many different nationalities and ethnicities, individuals who've often risen from hard backgrounds - race-based filtering isn't something I buy into. Hope this answers your question.

[@eco.patterns]

​@@jordanthornton My friend, you may as well have said "I don't see colour". It is not racist to understand that different ethnicities have very different experiences in medical, social, and financial institutions compared to white folk. The fact that you don't take these experiences into account especially when you are talking about "poverty mindsets" and finances is definitely a cause for concern. My main concern here is that you, like many white coaches are doing nowadays, will offer mindset advice to people who really need to understand and see that there are larger racist systems actively working against people of colour and actively prop up white privilege and white supremacy - particularly propping up white males such as yourself who do not have to square off with these systems. Ex. its going to be much easier for you to get a line of credit or a job than a black person in your country, this is fact, not an observation. If you are not already accounting for these realities in your work, and therefore making your clients of colour think it is solely their hard work that matters, then you are misrepresenting reality and gaslighting them. Mindset work definitely has a time and place, and is an important first step. I would hope you are learning about the real oppressive systemic barriers and also addressing these in your work, both as an individual in your community and as coach/leader. Otherwise, you may as well be putting out a house fire with a spray bottle.

[@scottwells2456]

My father despite being reasonably affluent witheld from me financially. The lesson was - '; There's no free lunch' I'm in recovery for process addictions - of which Financial Hoarding is a part. I withold from myself and others

[@jordanthornton]

I'm sorry to hear this - it's a tough moment because I imagine he had the best of intentions, but the callibration was clearly off. Wishing you the best with the financial hoarding pattern, Scott.

[@sabinemindfulness8845]

I love this... ... thank you for bringing up this topic its so important.....i follow this guy Ramit Sethi... he does a great podcast and covers a lot of psychological themes also when guiding his guests... going back to their childhood and relationship with money growing up etc... check it out... I've been living in the UK now for 20 years and I still struggle to understand how deep the "class" culture is embedded here.

[@jordanthornton]

Will check this out, thank you and keep going with the healing 🌲

[@ArthursAtman]

Jeez I needed this video. There was not enough money for me to afford a jacket in high school, so I was sitting there sniffling all the time during tests (which was embarrassing), but turns out there was enough for my dad to afford whores on his business trips. You are so right that real financial pressure is not something "therapy" or inner work can solve--it's a practical reality that has to be managed, but man it doesn't help to have shame associated with it on top of the real pressure.

[@aleksejtorschin1549]

I remember when I was a kid that my parents suggested that we never had enough money. It felt like we were poor even if we had enough money for food and some other things. Also there were many negative beliefs about rich people. The rich are greedy and have all the money.... It sounded like the rich were evil. Is there a book about money trauma? If yes how is the name?

[@jordanthornton]

Still looking for a good book on this topic - haven’t found one yet!

What audio equipment do you use? It sounds good and I cant see the mic.

[@jordanthornton]

Rode NTG mic plugged into Tascam DR05x audio recorder! I have the microphone boom-armed overhead and out of frame (it’s about 20 cm away from my mouth, but cleverly hidden) - I then sync audio and video + process audio to remove noise and pops & slightly refine sounds in da Vinci resolve post production - hope this helps!

[@FlorinGN]

I find it so hard to keep a hard job and a side hustle. And so, I realized that I sold my sleepless work nights way too cheaply. I decided that I like crumbs... but only in my soup. There is not a single video from you that I cannot take some value from.

[@jordanthornton]

Here to help, always. Aiming for variety!

[@MablePauls]

The whole point of wealth for me is freedom. My magic number in my mind is 5 million needed at 65 to not worry about anything. Am i better off investing a good portion of my income into stocks or saving my earnings to achieve this goal??

[@jordanthornton]

I’m not a financial advisor, but the general consensus seems to be low cost index funds which you don’t touch for years… and likewise raising your monthly income via skill acquisition and providing value. Easier to save more when you earn more ✌🏻

[@sabinahyseni8610]

I was traumatized by that whispering to camera 😂

[@jordanthornton]

Will add trigger warnings next time 😉

[@DDDD17890]

All I can say now is 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@jordanthornton]

You got this, wishing you well for the new week ahead 🌲

[@venusian.academy]

This video was 🔥🔥🔥

[@jordanthornton]

Hard one to make, almost too many factors to address... but we can probably just stick to our millionaire-mindset-self-hypnosis-self-care-self-love-subliminals and all the trauma will fix itself 😉

[@venusian.academy]

@@jordanthornton 🤣🤣 exactly! - you navigated the subject very tactfully. The majority of the world projects most shadows (both dark and golden) onto money so it’s tricky territory.