Find out why cheap cars are DEAD!

[@carwow]

first

[@nathanb2100]

Second :D

[@narkisbanunizamdeen5998]

Third

[@johndavidson3424]

Ok, carwow.

[@hakshayak2044]

When we get to see pininfarina battista😞

[@Al1qx]

7th

[@Memento_Kuzeh]

as a young person it feels like the world is spitting on my face, first we can't buy property, and now we can't buy new cars

[@jimelzenga]

Live in the pod, eat the bugs

[@akalion213]

Jesus the fucking entitlement...

[@onepalproductions]

That's why you were given facemasks.

[@dejangegic]

@@akalion213 Jesus here, how may I help you?

[@akalion213]

@@dejangegic Put some sense into this young man complaining about not being able to buy a new car

[@jochem1986]

Cars have gone from exclusive luxury items to mass transportation, and now back to exclusive luxury items again...

[@Markcain268]

Yep, I'll be glad when I retire and won't need a car anymore

[@Kad.94]

History repeats..!!

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

You will own nothing, have no privacy and be happy... Or else.

[@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689]

For the sake of emission and safety policy cars today are loaded with tons of device. That makes them expensive

[@3204clivesinclair]

@@Markcain268 Since retirement, my wife and I use our car more. Shopping - too heavy. All those places you wanted to go - but put it off because of work… ;-)

[@dominicrusho]

The EU cannot claim to have any credibility on environmental issues when it knowingly encourages the sale of 2.5 tonne SUVs over tiny, lightweight city cars. It’s insanity.

[@dannylopezcalderon7825]

Exactly!!

[@alexmarinescu2873]

Why would i drive a tiny crap, when i can drive a nice big safe suv!?!

[@dannylopezcalderon7825]

@@alexmarinescu2873 You can do it, but is not "Eco friendly" as the EU claims.

[@ristekostadinov2820]

@@alexmarinescu2873 if only SUVs were safer than regular cars

[@janspa_1119]

@Biggest Dongle probably living in the uk huh?

[@garideb]

The whole SUV thing really winds me up - they're heavy, hard to park, hard to manoeuvre, expensive to run, worse to drive and cause more accidents and have resulted in more injuries to pedestrians. How we fell for this marketing nonsense from the car sector is beyond me but I think car manufacturers are destroying their own industry.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

What grinds my gears is that most SUVs would totally fail in actual offroad regions. This type of cars is one of the biggest car-marketing scam ever. Just get an actual offroader. That would cost less and would be easier to maintain.

[@danielnorthcott53]

I bought my first SUV the other day, i live in the middle of nowhere and this time of year I can get stuck very easily. I have a reason to have one! But some people use them as fashion statement in places like London

[@goranzunic5183]

Plain psychology, people love to feel big.

[@jdexplores01]

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Most would fail yeah. I got a Dacia Duster 4wd, lifted, all terrains, skidplates... I was offroad and beat all the subarus, jeep compass and so on for under 18k Also its a light car under 1500kg and fairly compact

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

@@jdexplores01 A Lada Niva is even lighter and that one too actually is a real offroad car. And then there's also the UAZ Hunter.

[@alexa-cm7lv]

In countries such as Italy, Spain, France, Greece there is no way people will give up on small cars. The majority of streets in towns are too narrow for SUVs.

[@tasosarpoudis1604]

and also people in these countries have been acustomed to small cars. I cant imagine myself in a huge car

[@ProfCalculon]

Scrie mai întâi de unde ești, unde se circulă cu căruțele și în 2021, nu-ți mai da părea despre alte țări mai civilizate, nu fă pe cosmopolitul...

[@jorrjeena]

@@ProfCalculon 1. Nu are nici cea mai mică legătura comentariul tău inutil. Mai ascultă o dată întrebarea, citește din nou răspunsul și atât. 🤫 (se pot repeta acțiunile de câte ori este nevoie) 2. Nu-ți mai da cu părerea* :)

[@rahuldasmajumder5121]

Same with crowded countries like India. We love small efficient hatchbacks.

[@ohlordy2042]

As a bloke from outback Australia, I discovered the need for small cars in Europe the hard way. I rented a small, 7 seater van to tour around Britain with my family. When I got to the rental dealership, they only had 9 seater vans available and offered me one at the same price as the smaller 7 seaters. Bewdy, I thought. Travel around Britain in spacious luxury. It was truly terrifying trying to drive this lumbering monstrosity along country lanes and through crowded villages. Never again. Next time I'll hire two little hatch backs designed for the conditions.

[@wuerzelburg]

This is why in the 70s Japanese cars came and filled the gap. Then in the 90s Korean cars came and filled the gap when Japanese cars became more expensive. Now the Romanian Dacia is increasingly popular to fill the gap of cheap cars. The Chinese cars will storm Europe soon enough to save the day in terms of cheap cars. One thing is sure it is becoming increasingly difficult to own and to maintain a car

[@space_2597]

Chinese BYD Dolphin. EV 300km+ range, US$14,000. 3 million km lifetime on the battery

[@Vennillion]

Well said. Where I live Chinese cars are already selling more than Korean or Japanese cars, companies like GEELY, Changan, and Haval are quickly taking over the market here.

[@Jehowy666]

Dacia is not romanian, it's french.

[@kevinpeters9756]

@@Jehowy666 Its a romanian brand

[@megaangelic]

@@kevinpeters9756 It's a Romanian brand that ceased to exist, until Renault revived the name for its super budget models. They are now all made from previous generation (or earlier) Renault parts, designed by Renault, sold by Renault, and have no Romanian heritage other than the name and the price. Chinese cars have started arriving in Europe, they're not cheap though. They're so far only sending premium brands.

[@robbedoos]

This whole 'economical' big electric SUV trend is getting really tiring

[@M67v]

They’re really dragging it

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@AleXcsGaming]

It’s quite simple actually… the difference between an suv and a sedan will be between 400 and 1000 kg. Baterries are very expensive and put a lot of weight on the car. So manufacturers instead of making cheap electric small cars for 30k make electric suvs for 40-50k because it’s a better deal for your money. And obviously this appeals to the european and american middle class. This in turn speeds up the race to the electric future, because once the batteries will become cheaper as time passes small cars could become once again mass manufactured and very affordable. I predict that could happen around mid 2030s. That is unless public transportation becomes too good, and robo-taxis take over, along with bikes and just walking. The latter is more likely. Until then the poor wil either have to stick with old second hand cars if they live in rural areas and need it, otherwise just take public transportation and an e-scooter/e-bike. Perhaps and uber if you go out of town. It’s actually the best route the goverments took.

[@M67v]

@@AleXcsGaming In other words, they’re pushing the SUV envelope not because it’s what’s best for the consumers, but because it’s easiest for them to turn a profit. SUVs, most of the time, are no better built than their car counterparts (Exhibit A: The Volkswagen ID. 4, a 2021 car that uses rear drum brakes). They just appear to be more substantial due to their size, weight, and appearance. Because of that, people are willing to pay more for that. On top of that, now manufacturers tend to equip the SUVs with more features to make them even more enticing. I don’t buy into the SUV façade, and in fact I find their gluttonous size and compromised handling quite undesirable. Unless you truly needed the space, how is paying more for a vehicle you don’t need a better deal?

[@robbedoos]

@@AleXcsGaming I get that, but choosing a big, heavy, less aerodynamic shape to push that future is beyond me. Why not educate the consumer about more efficient sedans?

[@arnofleck]

Simple reason for the weight-adjusted CO2 emission limits: Germany has several carmakers that produce large, heavy, luxurious cars. So Germany decided they won't have it that car manufacturers of small cars (Renault, Fiat, etc) would get an advantage so they negotiated this weight factor into the regulation. Which, as you pointed out, resulted in it being completely uneconomical to build small, efficient cars.

[@DenaryMxO]

I had a new car with Lane keeping assist that you had to forcibly disable every time you started the car. I used to drive on a 40mph road which meant the lane keeping (active >35mph) was on. I'd regularly have to cross the middle line to avoid parked cars but then the lane keeping assist would kick in and try to force you back. On two or three occasions when I've not caught and forced past the lane keeping.. the emergency braking systems had to also activate. There was plenty of space for me to perform the manoeuvre at the speed I was going but because it's not a unified system its more dangerous than had they not been active. Cars should either self drive or they should not. Half and half systems are dangerous.

[@Lucky13777]

Imagine having a system that will cut your power when you will be overpassing someone in excess of the speed limit? 0_0

[@lawrenceholden3789]

I find the whole concept of these systems ridiculous. Anyone driving a vehicle has had to learn a skill and pass a test, their focus should be on driving, hazard awareness, perception, should know where they are on the road, when to brake, what speed they are doing. A vehicle having systems which distract and irritate the driver, let alone decide when to brake is a liability. I don't want a new car with a distracting I Pad stuck on the dashboard to have to struggle with, I don't even pair my phone as this would be a major distraction, easy to stop somewhere safe and return the call when I can give it my full attention. With a competent focused driver, the Dacias are not only safe but probably a lot more enjoyable than the expensive gadget ridden SUVs.

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@tomyost6330]

Yikes! That's scary. Don't trust these modern gadgets. When they 'work' they can scare you. When they don't work, you won't know until it's too late, when you 'thought' you could depend on it. Won't ever trust my life to electronics that can and will fail you, with what results?? Peace.

[@davethedogdude]

All you should have to do on any of the cars with lane keep is blip your blinker, and then you can change lanes without it intervening. I've never had to turn off lane keep on my Audi except for situations where the cameras can't work right (crappy painted lane lines, or them being obfuscated by something) because I blip my blinker if I'm changing lanes anyways. And at least on my car turning it on and off is as simple as clicking a button on the blinker as well. I wouldn't buy a new car that doesn't have lane keep and adaptive cruise capabilities, it makes driving on the highway in traffic much less annoying.

[@samanson2001]

Unfortunately almost everything is getting considerably more expensive than they used to be, greatly surpassing simple inflation. Take houses and Freddos for example 🤷‍♂️

[@cosmoray9750]

Yep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH20hpeAe9aeias Reckless U

[@possle]

Don't forget a fudge!

[@ColtColin]

More upset about the freddos tbh

[@jandersen6802]

No. You just have shite salary because you never took school seriously enough.

[@coreyprince7587]

yes but inflation hasn’t doubled but the price of cars have

[@mlasrb]

When Chinese manufacturers smell the opportunity they will flood European market with cheap high tech cars.

[@adam145]

Once the EU politicians invest enough into the chinese car manufacturers then we'll see them come over real quick. They're probably just waiting to buy all the shares they need.

[@SmileyEmoji42]

Some of the new stuff can be done on the cheap - reversing cameras say - but some are just inherently expensive. The problem for car manufacturers is that their room for price differentiation between base and premium models is being squeezed out of existence.

[@Myaccisbanned]

High tech, as in cars that have cheap leds all over and scream advertisements at you as you drive?

[@banana-dw3ez]

MG and Great Wall are already in Europe.

[@brokenscart7989]

Cough MG

[@michaelsteiner5775]

I work as an Qualiy Engineer for Electronics in cars for about 7 years now. My advise to safe money at the moment, buy a simple small used car with a simple weak 4-Zylinder Petrol Engine without a Turbo, without LED or Xenon Headlamps or big expensive Wheels and keep it as long as you can. Learn to maintain it yourself as good as possible and never put too much money in any car.

[@aayushkaintura8181]

What's wrong with LED headlamps?

[@michaelsteiner5775]

@@aayushkaintura8181 oh, nothing. We build them. They are a wonderful and they have a great light. I hardly ever received any claim regarding one. The first 2-7 years which is waranty time nothing is wrong. Just if you want to safe money and keep the car as long as possible I would avoid them. The LED's theoretically last long enough but the housing of the headlamp is out of plastic and these are not normal LEDs like in your electrical christmas candles, they can get quite hot. If you keep a car for 10 years or more and the headlamp is exposed to heat and also the sunlight or you do a lot of motorway driving some stones on the road hit the old plastic housing... it is posible that it get's a little leakage where water can penetrate inside. And if there is humidity inside the housing, the LED's on the PCBA do not tend to last very long. These headlamp are not cheap and will probably be not so easy to get in 10 years (complex production) compared to a bulb (simple production) which, by the way, you could change yourself.

[@meloaleo]

@@michaelsteiner5775 completely agree that’s why I drive a simple 3 cylinder Toyota Aygo, when you say 4 cylinder, don’t rule out my 3 cylinder non turbo 🤣

[@michaelsteiner5775]

@@meloaleo I did not want to rule out any car (^^). It's just my choice of the best compromise to safe money. I think the 4-cylinder creates less vibration and for me and my family the Aygo would be too small. But the 1.0 VVT-i 3-Zylinder engines are known to be very reliable... if you change the oil time after time... They have a timing chain and tend to be easy to maintain in general. In my opinion it's a little more difficult to change the engine air filter compared to my Auris with the 1.33 VVT-i and there is less space to work under the hood. My dad has an early Skoda 1.2 TSI for example which is known for engine problems. It also has a Turbo and direct injection. I would not buy one... but he does drive it a lot and he never had any problems. It's also a little bit luck always I guess (^^).

[@nihilisticsoup2919]

@@michaelsteiner5775 Vibration? You driven a modern 3 cyl lol? They have harmonic balance shafts which cuts down on a Helluva lot of the vibration. Personally I find my little 3 cyl Suzukis K10B engine to be smooth as heck, I rarely need to rev it hard either I find it feels more torquey than my older same hp 4 cyl.

[@_-Anthony-_]

Everything is getting more expensive. Rich, richer, Poor, poorer.

[@guckfoogle1096]

You're right, but let's all keep ignoring the elephant shall we. 👌

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@kingfailfun5600]

@@guckfoogle1096 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@sophieedel6324]

you can thank the ECB's money printing for that

[@eddiebenouaich493]

#communism

[@neilburns8869]

Half the number of SUVs on the road are completely unnecessary to be honest with you. I can see there coming a point where people have to go back to smaller, cheaper cars or as you rightly point out the car manufacturers themselves will end up going out of business. You are also very much correct, it will end up that having a car will be very much an elitist thing. Not really fair at all.

[@alkaholic4848]

I wouldn't be sad to see the end the ridiculous "Chelsea tractor" trend

[@paul756uk2]

It's called freedom of choice. I drive an SUV because it suits my lifestyle. Ie towing, carrying bikes tools equipment and anything else that will fit into it that won't fit into a car. I do less than 4k miles a year and I pay nearly 600 quid for the privilege so I'm not going to make any apologies or feel the slightest amount of guilt for something I have every right to do.

[@alkaholic4848]

@@paul756uk2 "People carriers" (eg Ford Galaxy, Seat Alhambra, Vauxhall Zafira, etc); or van-based vehicles like Transit, Transporter, Vito, etc; are far more practical for this. Most SUVs are just medium-sized hatchbacks with big wheels.

[@paul756uk2]

@@alkaholic4848 yeah. No thanks. Not keen on those cars apart from the VW. Besides, I need the weight for towing as well as I actually like the car. It has to serve multiple purposes and one of them is its a nice car to drive. Comfortable and quiet. Mines a Merc M class so a bit bigger than a hatchback. I wouldn't have one of those medium size things like the Nissan joke.

[@TotallyNotASpy1]

Half? You mean 90% of them. They're all just grocery getters that will never see any offroad.

[@nigel.w]

I think Chinese brands will increasingly fill the cheap car void if recognised makers vacate that market segment. But I also think that if the now recognised makers do vacate the small/cheap car segment, it will be the beginning of the end for some of them.

[@kawaiikoto8800]

Aren't premium brands getting more affordable nowadays? I remember when Mercedes was considered luxury, now in where I live so many people own or at least had them.

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

@@kawaiikoto8800 A lot of premium brands have started to make less premium cars along side the expensive ones, but those are still not cheap, more like a medium price.

[@ElusiveTy]

@@kawaiikoto8800 More mid-range as opposite to premium. Mercedes still is and has been considered premium, there are just some more affordable premium options. The average Merc and BMW is no Bentley, Aston, Ferrari or Lambo, it's just the upper end of their range that get close.

[@paulmunns1439]

I think the Chinese will wipe the floor with electric cars once they get going and assuming they are good the EU manufacturers will go under, Tesla is he only one likely to survive as they several times more efficient then VW.

[@lewis6052]

@@kawaiikoto8800 probably because of financing, so many cars financed now a days its insane

[@thebob563]

I would much rather get a small, efficient, and reliable car without all those gadgets than a gigantic electric SUV with lane assist

[@Curling12341]

just give a rio lx or nissan versa (etc) with bare bones essentials........entertainment for me is a FM/AM radio

[@Markcain268]

I will continue driving old bangers until I retire, won't need a car then, hopefully!

[@Speedy636Germany]

Great in general. Alas, over here in Germany most old bangers are being sold into export. Not too many left and those who are, are quite often priced as collectibles.

[@Markcain268]

@@Speedy636Germany plenty in the uk, I got a ford focus with a broken gearbox for £200 spent £280 getting the box rebuilt, serviced it and it's drive great for the past ten months, utterly reliable

[@xIcarus227]

Sadly you become more car dependent as you grow old, since normal tasks (carrying goods to home for example) become harder to do.

[@jandersen6802]

In less than 10 years you will be able to take self-driving taxis everywhere for cheap (if there is a free market).

[@Markcain268]

@@xIcarus227 strange, both my grandparents never had cars and they seemed to manage ok

[@Ambienfinity]

Credit to Dacia (and Renault) for making decent cheap motors. I've always bought second hand, but even that's getting harder.

[@petelattimer6808]

and getting second hand cheap is harder still! i need to find somewhere to store some old cars when theyre cheap again, just before the 'ban' on non electric cars being sold.

[@LarsEelke]

I owned a Dacia Dokker and once you own one you’ll know why they are cheap 🙃 I’d rather drive a 20 year old Renault than that garbage.

[@Ambienfinity]

@@LarsEelke I'l stick with my old Honda, then!

[@eugenux]

these new Dacia are cheap but, not as cheap as they used to be. Besides inflation, the car manufacturers observed that we are dumb enough to pay any price they ask... thus, why sell cheap when you can sell it expensive?!!

[@tzeimet]

@@LarsEelke Depends on the car, the Dokker was an atrocious car, but the Duster and Sandero are alright. Obviously they aren't going to be luxurious or the most reliable, but adequate at any rate.

[@filipeferreirac]

Really nice piece of insight into the current state of the car market and a look to the future. More of this please Matt!

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@HamsterWheelGaming]

One of my first cars was a Toyota Starlet I bought for 600 bucks. Thing had nothing but a heater and a radio but it was absolutely bullet proof. I looked up the license plate and the car last year passed it's MOT and is still on the road lol. Thing also got 50mpg easily, I loved it to death.

[@chrisogrady28]

All I want is for my cars to be low, light, manual, and RWD. But now there are so many fat SUVs/CUVs/obese hatchbacks that I can't see down the road anymore. It's like always being stuck behind a van.

[@iowawalker]

Yeah, they also tint their read windows like they live in UAE. It's reasonable for warm regions, but in my city we have 30 sunny days a year. And many of them don't even bother changing bulbs so I have absolutely no idea when they're braking. People should really not be allowed to drive if they only see cars as a transportation.

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@toby319]

I could not have put that better myself. I feel like the 2022 Toyota GR 86 is one of the last glimmers of hope

[@_TrueDesire_]

ah the RWD and manual comment i heard for the latest 10 years. most that post stuff like that most likely never buy a brand new car with rwd and a manual 😂 then continues to hate on what others buy with their own money it’s hilarious.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Yea yea ya, Well why don't you go buy a brand new ND2 instead of a NB? Atleast I can give respect to Hot Hatch owners, they atleast support the market and not go on and on about how their cars are being replaced by pig fat cars.

[@iseeolly9959]

The trouble comes when you live in town and have to park in the street: can't charge an EV, need to nip into small parking spaces, don't wanna leave an expensive car in the street. The working classes, young people and pensioners are being nudged out of the market.

[@dickenscider7328]

Hi, I’m afraid that’s the plan!

[@Hhhh22222-w]

This is an EU specific video tho, and majority of EU countries have good public transport... That's what the government is pushing for

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@TheSkyline35]

The twist is : If you live in town you shouldn't have to daily use your car. Public transportation and bike/new mobility vehicle should be enough

[@iseeolly9959]

@@TheSkyline35 Fair enough, I do know of plenty of houses in the village I grew up in that have the same problem.

[@tortozza]

Is a 3-tonne electric rocketship really better for the environment than a little 1.0 liter petrol city car?

[@tobik2627]

There is no 1 liter car

[@dominicr4740]

@@tobik2627 really! Have you looked at multiple car ranges such as the VW polo and it’s various VAG group stablemates all with 1 litre petrol turbo engines and excellent fuel economy?

[@tobik2627]

@@dominicr4740 with 1 liter I thought you meant 1l /100km, but instead 1l displacement.

[@saxon-mt5by]

@@tobik2627 There are plenty; how about a Kia Picanto for starters?

[@Tonyx.yt.]

since the world main source of electricity is coal...

[@jmpetersson]

I am really impressed by this video coming from a car site like carwow. I couldn't agree more with its message. My first car was an used Peugeot 305 and I don't believe cheap cars must be particularly tiny. The Fiat Punto - mentioned in the article was a great fun car to drive. On the whole safety issue concerns, if young people can't afford cars, they will switch to motorcycles. OK even more fun, but government representatives do not pretend it's about safety!

[@alucardbalmond3480]

Yup, Europe will soon be filled with bikes and don't worry we will make videos on why bikes are better than cars. Why Americans sucks just because they can afford cars and the reason why they are stupid and poorer than us Europeans.

[@ATLAScom]

When they can't just forbid something, they're gonna make it more expensive instead..

[@paul_k_7351]

Thanks Matt for bringing this to the attention of everyone. It‘s so unfair how the EU and other governments are basically pricing the youngsters out of the freedom and fun of car ownership! 🙁

[@dozsodozso6341]

this is the goverment goal . To take the freedom from youngsters and educate them to obey

[@DangerousLiving1914]

There are older cars for sale which are more cheap

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@GlockGrippa]

And ruining our environment in the process, oh the irony

[@wasbeen]

Brilliant video. I work in the industry, and knew most already, but it is perfectly summarised in this piece. CarWow is becoming a fantastic channel.

[@rob5944]

Isn't it nuts to legislate against small, economical cars?

[@akuskus]

It has been a fantastic channel for a long time, what are you talking about?

[@msoynri]

I’m glad that in Japan- cheap cars are still the main market. No some wonky too strict emission controls too.

[@Has7DCT]

Same here in Malaysia. NA engines. 4 speed automatic. Compact. It's our cult

[@markblack195]

For most motorists driving anywhere in the UK life is an endless series of traffic jams, road works usually to narrow the roads for a cycle lanes and an ever increasing number of speed speed cameras. 45 years ago when I passed my test you could motor it was a pleasure, not anymore it's just awful 😪

[@aransinghbansal2227]

Completely takes the fun out of driving!

[@mrfadec]

Same in Malta!! Horrendous traffic.

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@dodo19923]

Southern Italy is one of the last places in Europe that it's actually fun to drive (as long as your wheels/tires are up to it so no 20's with super low profiles on). There are 3 speed cameras within 40sq miles of me, the motorways are an unofficial autobahn and the back roads are glorious as you can actually put your foot down and have FUN. I hate the UK roads and not just for speed, the drivers are all shit, there are speed bumps every 20 metres, the motorways are one giant backlog and god forbid you get stuck on a one way system in a city.

[@junderwoituk]

You forgot to add that the road conditions are SH1T!! and Road Tax being a total Scam!!

[@andrecostin1288]

Where's everyone getting the extra money for SUV's when they're mortgaged up to the neck and not seeing any salary growth to keep up with inflation?

[@wallerjmichael]

@David Lockett this!

[@zondaboy6493]

Because people are fools fooled by marketing

[@BlackPanthaa]

This makes me really sad, rather the big car craze rather than the price as much

[@feezee82]

Big SUVs annoy me so much. They take up too much space, since most parking wasn’t built for these chunksters. And seeing how most of the time there’s only one occupant, I think it’s incredibly selfish to buy such a car in the first place.

[@bighands69]

There is no big car craze. Governments who are dominated by the upper classes are hell bent on lower the standards of living for the working classes. The larger cars are to be owned by the upper classes that will still go to the alps for their family midterm breaks.

[@Zoltan1251]

@@feezee82 i dont think you guys get it... where i live, of course, most of people buy SUVs but not for trying to look cool... but because roads are horrible and you always scratch bottom with smaller cars....

[@feezee82]

@@Zoltan1251 I’m talking about my neighbors, people who live in the city. If you live in the countryside it’s fine. But if you buy a car knowing that it takes up an entire parking space and makes it nearly impossible for me to get out of my car, then you are selfish.

[@Zoltan1251]

@@feezee82 lol, i live in the city now, moved from village and city roads are way waaaaay worse here :D... everybody basically needs SUV... Bratislava Slovakia btw.... but even without bad roads, you have difficult enterances to garages. or parking lots etc.... i have my Octavia, which is by no means low but i fear every bump, not so much in my parents Tucson

[@bempartington4299]

3:50 great point. Politics is relentlessly screwing around with the environment.

[@bonzobonanza]

This is really sad to watch. I love small cars. They're quite fun to drive because of its tiny size.

[@Darko_Milosevski03]

Im sad as well

[@muhammadhasanmasud6157]

Agreed this is sad

[@inz92]

Waiting for china to save us with the BYD Dolphin 😋

[@noreluss]

They also produce less emissions but are going extinct because…emission regulations ! (Among other things but that’s kinda shocking if you think about it)

[@kingfailfun5600]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@DRAGOSMAN95]

Let’s face the truth: there’s no such thing as a manufacture caring for the client after purchasing the product. Not even the exotic ones

[@DuBstep115]

There is only one car manufacturer that genuinely cares about the customer and its Rolls-Royce, shame that only 0.000001% of the world will afford one.

[@motorista_ramon]

@@DuBstep115 no,actually just 0,0000000001 will be able to afford it.....

[@63KF]

Toyota with the 5 year warranty

[@Riiiisc]

@Biggest Dongle here in Belgium, BMW is the best with service. All the Japanese brands, VW and Mercedes are horrible....

[@diesel92kj1]

It's more the Government & their insane taxes.

[@Wavelover33]

I’ve always bought used as I never wanted to pay for the massive depreciation for the first couple of years. And I fix them myself, have done for 30 years. Problem is those days of simple engineering are gone and the thought of a problematic used car makes me question the sensibility of buying a car without any warranty protection. Oddly enough it veers me to go complete electric as they have less components that can go wrong. Either way I pine for the past when I could get a good deal and have some fun fixing whatever(normally easy) problem that would come up. Yeah goodbye home mechanics. I’ll miss you

[@nihilisticsoup2919]

Mmmm don't forget about Suzuki, noone wants Suzuki cars they've got zero street cred but smart folk like me buy em because you can scoop them up used dirt cheap and they're very easy and quick to work on for home mechanics like myself. Seriously, I bought my Celerio for 3k gbp crashed and repaired by previous owner (professionally) 3 years old and 8k miles on clock, basically a brand new car for 3 grand! And it's as simple and reliable as a 90s Toyota! Also no thief would steal one due to no street cred and hard to sell the parts cause they're very uncommon in the UK. The problem with people these days is most don't seem to carry an ounce of shrewdness on their being.

[@acque2011]

I did my drivers license 2 year ago with 39. I have to say im shocked of the costs and prices (and Also sizes) of All new cars. I now drive a Golf 4 from 2002, that's all I can afford. Cars are becoming a luxury item

[@Tuppoo94]

Makes one wonder if the whole thing is actually planned.

[@real-eyes-realise-real-lies]

@@Tuppoo94 everything is... the world is a stage mate

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

Kei cars

[@AleXcsGaming]

As they should!!! Cities are for the people, not for the cars. If you love your car so much, go and live in usa or rural europe. You have enough space there. I want public transport, more metro stations, more alleys to walk ok. More bike lanes. This is the future of the modern urban space

[@AleXcsGaming]

@@thijs2906 no, class has nothing to do with it. It’s simply unsustainable for everyone to have a car in the major cities of europe. 1. Not enough space for everyone, constant traffic jams, always seeking for parking space 2. More pollution in the air 3. Electric cars have batteries which make a car heavier and more expensive. Instead of making a 30k small hatchback companies prefer to make 40-50k plus SUVs that appear to the middle class and beyond. This in turn is a compromise that indeed makes cars a luxury item, but that’s because of climate change and urban centers becoming way too crowded. I’d rather take the metro and an e-scooter to work everyday and make 10-15 minutes instead of going for 30-60 minutes commutes in my car. More convinient, I have more time for myself, I spend less money and I’m more enviormentally friendly. And there’s more room to breath! Now, if you live in a rural community, just buy an old diesel until electrics become more affordable.

[@hoody3758]

"you will own nothing and you will be happy"

[@dukemiko]

the great reset, that ist the truth

[@Eben-Victorious]

That's it ... thank you the globalists ... our freedoms are being erased at high speed! The only hope of the nations: the return of Christ ... and it is soon. Let’s be ready!

[@DrMcMoist]

@@Eben-Victorious You lost me with 'globalists', then you got me back with 'hope' but lost me again with 'Christ'.

[@kalvinsupersexyndlovu8855]

🎯🎯🎯

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

@@Eben-Victorious you're antisemitic

[@thatone5350]

The emission requirements are a result of everyones favorite practice - Lobbying.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Or what industry insiders refer to as a "scam"

[@filipp2889]

Guys, keep your 500£ shitboxes😂 cause they will sell for triple the price ×2🤣

[@MOJump23]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqOlYp-Xa72obdE

[@ben3291]

@@filipp2889 I just bought back In July a Mk3 Sandero so soon I could sell it for £50K 🤣.

[@anomuumit]

Emission requirements are a result of everyones favorite practice - wanting to live longer healthier and not die of lung disease, cardiovascular problems or disastrous climate change effects.

[@pumamsr]

In Romania, Dacia Spring cost ~6.700£ with grant. More than half the price is paid by the government.

[@antonioiovine5026]

Cinese automakers will invade EU with cheap electric cars like they did with smartphones, and EU carmakers are going to cry

[@cheapstonegd6296]

That would be a huge opportunity for China tho. If they can start mass producing cheap electric cars and selling them here then I reckon some brands like Skoda could go out of business. Would have to be pretty well planned out tho to mass sell cars here. Like cheap city cars for students and slightly more expensive ones which are bigger to accommodate for long road trips and such

[@xIcarus227]

@@ABlockBeats nobody wanted anything to do with VAG after dieselgate either, yet here they are. I wish it were like you said, but empirically you're not correct. It's pretty sad actually.

[@ifyouarefeelingsinister]

@@ABlockBeats let me change that for you: “racists and bigoted small minded xenophobes want nothing to do with China after Covid”

[@ninaakari5181]

No they won't acctually, thanks to import tax and price (and rarity) of raw materials needed for batteries. The price of a new electric car will be pretty much same in China and in the EU

[@tttthe_jo]

import taxes and safety will keep them out, 3rd world countries are flooded with chinese tin cans that catch on fire

[@abolfazlkhodaygani7019]

One thing you missed is reliability qnd repairabilty (if it's a word) new cars especially EVs are becoming like iPhones, no 3rd party repairs or popping up the hood for quick fixes, there is a lot profit to be made AFTER the sale, so i don't think manufacturers are gonna lose profit the way u said

[@LarsEelke]

Imagine buying a 10y electric vehicle and having to replace the battery...ouch.

[@lorithorpe3502]

with all these governments pushing us to have electric cars , it's also going to put alot of garages out of business .

[@Subwolfer7564]

Telsa making the battery non-removable, yikes. Like thats gonna go bad one day.

[@ravenouself4181]

@@lorithorpe3502 i would just make bio-fuels and cng more readily available.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

@@LarsEelke depends, most likely you just pay £200 to Indra to refurbish the battery

[@eduardkasparyan5197]

I really believe that in the future cars would be affordable to less people in general.

[@aslamnurfikri7640]

I think in future car manufacturers can provide Uber-like driverless car service or subscription service

[@VFPn96kQT]

Less cars on roads - the better

[@oxii99]

@@VFPn96kQT hmmm no

[@aitoluxd]

@@VFPn96kQT why?

[@VFPn96kQT]

@@oxii99 hmmm yes.

[@onepalproductions]

By 2030, you'll own nothing, and be happy, apparently. Hopefully, some of the confusion surrounding motoring manufacture "laws" becomes clearer.

[@Brian-om2hh]

The nation couldn't sustain itself if nobody owned anything. It's a fairy tale concept, that is utter bollox in reality....

[@martinlangbard6812]

Me: *reads the title* Also me: mkay, looks like we're sticking with subway then...

[@kingfailfun5600]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@Wilbur-em1hw]

@Martin Langbard I'd choose Burger King anyday.

[@renehenckens]

I hate SUV's with a passion. I'm so incredibly happy with my MX-5 at the moment.

[@nikoleass]

Fuck them akl

[@AfjeerOf]

City cars are small on the inside, and small on the outside. Saloons are big on the outside, and big on the inside SUV’s are big on the outside, and small on the inside

[@zeppkfw]

I wish I can afford an mx5 lmao it's so hyped up it's overpriced.

[@JackoBanon1]

Driving a SUV would be a horror for me because I can't imagine how to get it through the narrow European streets.

[@jazzosazzo4279]

I hate range rovers with a passion! I love my Tesla model 3!

[@axelfiraxa]

Lane keep assist is the stupidest addition on that list when implemented improperly

[@Goddot]

Lane assist, in the current state of developpment, can glitch and force your car on the wrong lane, with foreseable results. I gave up on cars and arranged my life so I don't need one. All the people from the previous generation around me are convinced it's a phase and I'll go back to car when the opportunity presents itself.

[@zeppkfw]

@@Goddot Lol just get a motorcycle or a 90s honda.

[@Goddot]

@@zeppkfw nope, been there, done that, the expense of the car (or motorbike) is not justified for the little use I have for it. Pure money sink.

[@MartinParnham]

I’ve got LKA on my current car and I always have it switched off. Hate it.

[@zeppkfw]

@@Goddot Yeah if you're outside of the US then I believe you. Out here the public transportation is so garbage that you have to get a car. It's really annoying.

[@thelifeofpewpew3290]

Bro! 100% when I was a teen it was easy to find a reliable cheap car but now, especially if you want a brand new decent car it cost you an arm and a leg! In Australia it's minimum 40K (unless you can get a MG which is 30K)....insane

[@dorstefan]

"You will own nothing, and you will be happy" - Klaus Schwab

[@bighands69]

I think once most people realize what has gone wrong it will be too late. Once the western market economies have been damaged it will take 100 years to recover if there ever is a recovery. When cultures collapse they do not necessarily return. The Roman culture existed for almost 800 years and our current culture is about 300 years old.

[@Brian-om2hh]

That's utter crap, and is totally unfeasible - Brian. Fortunately Klaus Schwab doesn't regulate or impose laws in any countries.

[@ONYX-365]

Schwab, perhaps the most evil influential men alive right now.

[@dorstefan]

@@Brian-om2hh he is just the messager.

[@dallysinghson5569]

@@ONYX-365 Why's he evil? It is the way of the world- to have you hooked onto goods, not necessarily have them last long, but to eventially have items as a "service". You can of course still buy them but you gotta pay...

[@recklessrogue9027]

The SUV craze and dumb government emissions requirements are what have killed cheap cars. I love driving a supermini as its perfect round town and still decent at the long journeys and certainly have more character than all the cloned cumbersome SUVs.

[@TheLinkedList]

SUVs are the bain of society! Usually driven by awful drivers to boot! Whenever you pull up next to one at a junction or roundabout you can't see past past the hulking pieces of junk. I actually hate the thing and they should have not have been allowed to be manufactured

[@recklessrogue9027]

@@TheLinkedList couldn't agree more

[@xIcarus227]

Honestly people are guilty too, this SUV craze happened largely as a result of demand. People buy much bigger cars than they need, and at this point I truly believe they're idiots. Not that I'm giving manufacturers a pass either. Bigger cars tend to be more luxurious, if you want luxury features you're effectively forced into buying a big car. There's only one hatchback right now which offers ventilated seats for example, and none are superminis. It's mind blowing.

[@baronvonjo1929]

I drive a 4runner yesterday I drove my first "car" in months. My brothers girlfriends Honda Civic hatch. Boy it was interesting but felt so unsafe being that low to the ground and being able to hit curbs. I think I'm going to stick to SUVs and Crossovers for a while. Though if I could get a lifted Toyota or Honda wagon I would get that in a heartbeat! But it would make no financial sense for either to try reproducing them in NA.

[@recklessrogue9027]

@@xIcarus227 agree people are to blame as much thinking they need an SUV to be safe, or they have a child or live in a slightly rural area. Done all that with my Yaris

[@CYV_COV]

I am very sad to hear that the car company will stop producing small cars and become more active in producing SUVs. I use a small car for practical reasons on the streets and the garage in my house is very narrow. But if this really happens, what I will do if one day I intend to change a small car (because of its long life) and end up buying an SUV

[@magnustan841]

There’s always the second hand market, plus it’s not that small cars are dead, the title is “cheap cars disappearing”, not “small cars disappearing”. A VW Polo, Ford Fiesta sized car will always be around, its just that you’ll have to pay a bit more for them brand new. VW’s ID Life concept car shows the template for an affordable EV, so fingers crossed for the production version.

[@gravemind6536]

@@magnustan841 Have you seen the new VW Polo is aint a small car its the same size as the MK4 Golf it almost a medium sized hatchback really.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

China actually sells a shit ton of small cheap cars... This gap will definitely be taken by the Chinese

[@Ilikepie18855]

@@Hhhh22222-w not in the EU, they will have to meet all these requirements.... They will be expensive

[@kingfailfun5600]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@fredericoamigo]

A lot og good points. Especially the hypothesis that government incentives are pushing manufacturers to produce heavier vehicles. If that is true, this needs to be addressed ASAP!

[@kurtgardiner2484]

Give it 50 years and we will all be on horses again 🤣

[@Bonanzaking]

I actually wouldn’t mind that

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Either horses or 70+ year old cars at that point. I'm getting a green mohawk and a supercharged V8.

[@stewartforsyth5253]

Too much methane from the horse manure

[@bighands69]

You are very naive if you think the new upper classes want people to have access to horses. Once cars are changed over to electric they will then work to ban those and so on the downward spiral flows. They will claim bicycles damage the environment.

[@assasinsplaylp5241]

no, screw horses

[@bonzobonanza]

I remember a video made by Doug DeMuro a few years ago where he talked about how the "cute, small car" market will not survive for long, and I find that to be ridiculous. But sadly, it was true :(

[@gravemind6536]

Just look at the evolution of a small car like The VW Polo, Ford Fiesta and Vauxhall Corsa. They have become obese. The latest polo is the size of a MK4 golf and the prices are nearly £20k new. The future of cars if bloated cars with loads of annoying tech that you barely drive yourself.

[@yungboicontigo9278]

@Biggest Dongle Ratio + Doug DeMuro is the GOAT. No one is allowed to talk crap about the GOAT of car channels including ChrisFix. The only person who deserves to be hated is Scotty Kilmer. Can’t stand that guy honestly

[@kingfailfun5600]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

Not in japan

[@dbclass4075]

My worry is their ability to survive in the used market.

[@gileshalliwell3591]

Matt, you’re right, the manufacturers will lose the relationship they build with clients by offering an entry level car and at a time when young people are already showing signs of moving away from car ownership altogether… Very shortsighted.

[@bighands69]

The issue is not the manufacturers and is the regulations that are shaping the economy as a whole. There is a reason why very little is manufactured in the west. Cars are probably one of the last things that are manufactured in the west.

[@Bvic3]

@@bighands69 Things are manufactured in the West. High added value things that are hard to copy. Car assembly is low added value now. Manufacturing robots for car assembly lines is high added value though. Clothing is low added value now. But specialised textiles of all kinds, like firefighter clothing or medical fabric are high added value. And the list goes on.

[@Mr30friends]

@@Bvic3 Yeah... manufacturing robots is so high value that germany allowed its only hope on the robotics industry (kuka) to get sold to a chinese air condition maker for peanuts.

[@CM-xi7rr]

that’s the plan

[@shiftystylin]

It'd be interesting to see the profit margins between something like a Renault Clio and a Renault Captur. Seeing as they are the same vehicle, but ones on stilts, I'd be keen to see the difference in profit margins. Everything else is just ludicrous!

[@Aureas2]

Just like everything else, it’s only the rich that benefit in this day and age.

[@alileevil]

And the people support these nonsensical policies that are pushed under the guise of climate change.

[@alileevil]

markyes oh good for you mark. Maybe you and your neighbor can take the bus while bezos and the other rich take trips to space. Because after all cars are bad and banning them is for our benefit. Take the wool out of your eyes. Haven’t you learned anything during the pandemic? When the buses and trains don’t work, it’s your car that will get you to where you want to be. How on earth did people become so compliant to the point that they are willing to give up their independence?

[@real-eyes-realise-real-lies]

@@alileevil mark obv lives somewhere 💩 hence his grievances towards people independence. Everyone gets stuck in traffic... id take abit of traffic once in a while over cycling / public transport etc..

[@alileevil]

markyes maybe you can blame something other than cars for that. I wonder what are the problems of overpopulation. Hmmm. Maybe more people equals more cars on the road?

[@real-eyes-realise-real-lies]

@markyes im sure you'll be using public transport before i do.

[@MLeoM]

Why? 1. Greed 2. Expensive ones are selling and company is making profit, why make lower cost ones? They'll just change small things and add and remove small things and wallah the new car price is something much higher than you expected.

[@Rusty-GB]

Having purchased a 2018 Vitara allgrip S when it was 18 months old, as of today i could sell it for 2.5k more than i paid for it from a dealer. Used car prices are madness in the current climate. Cheap car's are definitely a dieing breed.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Nah it's just another bubble. As it always does it will eventually pop and prices will plummet again.

[@DerpEye]

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge It won't if the prices of new cars keep on rising.

[@Dionysor]

thats good to hear. im so sick of crowded streets and lots

[@BC-zd5xw]

When you said the government was involved it all made sense.

[@aitoluxd]

What's with these shitty spammers???

[@MisterrWolff]

@@aitoluxd hoping that youtube does something with this shit bot spammers, but doubting they will do anything..

[@Ren_1106]

Government is basically a joke tbh and have 0 knowledge about cars.

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

@@Ren_1106 I dare say about anything meaningful other than draining you dry of your hard earned money.

[@Ren_1106]

@@TheSuperBoyProject 100% 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@arioware]

Given that cities want to get rid of cars in general by decreasing speed, increasing tolls,..., the essence of small city cars don't really make sense. So logically, people take bikes and scooters in town and buy cars to go out of cities with their family, hence the huge increase in Familial SUVs

[@Thatsme849]

and I'd say getting rid of cars in cities is a very good development !

[@clashman7564]

Public transport isn't anything new and it isn't some New World Order doomsday trash.

[@kingfailfun5600]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHXOoXuJatdglas

[@Loothansa]

and somehow all those SUVs end up in city traffic either way.

[@xxXCromaxXxx]

@@Loothansa yeah lol like a PHEV GLS with a WLTP consumption of like 70 MPG when in truth it barely gets 20 because the mom driving it doesnt even know how to charge it

[@1SaG]

Not enough people are spelling this out: There's something very wrong with how big, heavy, powerful and thirsty cars are getting "pushed" by weird efficiency coefficient formulas. A ~200hp, 1.6+ ton SUV gets a way higher efficiency rating (C or even higher) than smaller, lighter cars. Case in point: My 2017 ND MX-5 had an F rating when new (2nd lowest at the time) while my parents' 2017 2.0 TSI, 4Motion Tiguan had a C rating. The VW weighs around 600 kilos more, uses at least 2l/100km more in fuel and with its way higher mass and higher number of gadgets certainly uses up more resources in production. The way I understand it, the Mazda gets penalized for not having rear seats - when we all know that most of the time in real life, cars will only have one occupant anyway (the driver). It seems to me that despite our rational-sounding talk about having to dial back emissions, the development WRT cars has gone in the complete opposite direction. Just look at, say, the VW Golf and how it has become larger and larger (and way heavier) since the first generation back in 1974. Look at the hp numbers of, say, an E34 BMW M5 (315 PS) vs the current G30/F90 M5 (almost 600 PS). And going back to the ND MX-5: It's the only car in recent memory that actually became smaller and lighter with the introduction of a new generation (NC to ND). And that pretty much illustrates the problem that I see with modern car development. They should be getting smaller and lighter, but in reality they're getting needlessly larger and heavier.

[@adam145]

That reminds me of a review of some car that got a hybrid variant but the difference in weight was so big that the fuel economy didn't increase at all. Price was higher of course.

[@DavidKnowles0]

That 1974 car is unlikely to have had air bags, crumble zones, various sensors through, so it a slightly unfair comparison.

[@1SaG]

@@DavidKnowles0 I wasn't comparing, I was illustrating a trend. Sure there are some good reasons why cars get heavier - and I have no problem with that when it's in the service of saving lives. But, generally speaking, they're getting heavier because they're getting larger and stuffed full of gadgets nobody needs. It's not impossible to build a small, fun, safe car in 2021 that doesn't weigh 1.5 tons or more. Look at the Suzuki Swift, which is under/around a ton and has adequate room for 4 people at under 3.9 meters in length.

[@nihilisticsoup2919]

@@1SaG My Suzuki Celerio is smaller than a Swift externally but has a bigger boot and much the same internal passenger leg/headroom and comfortable fits passengers in front OR back upto 6.5 foot! Suzuki really, really do know how to design small cars well!

[@SBarbati]

Thank you for this video. This subject is so important and needs to be discussed.

[@SnowWhite-dr6xh]

The VW golf went up 10K in Australia. Used to lease a new one every 3 years. Not this time around!

[@amberclarisse6928]

I'm trying to find a used one at the moment and bloody hell it's a struggle!

[@milinddixit6583]

@@amberclarisse6928 I think the used car issue is partly due to the microchip shortage. In the UK its the same thing - massive bubble on used car prices. My current car has appreciated like £5,000 in the last year. It'll burst or slowly deflate once new car supplies get back to normal, and people start using trains to commute again...train use in the UK for commuting is still way below pre-Covid levels so more people at home saving money = more desire to buy a car.

[@yacinealg152]

10k is actually super cheap

[@wirago3246]

10k? For a used one I hope? A new one, here in Austria is starting at 24.000€ which is about 37.000 AUD oO

[@Mogsy28uk]

agreed, i bought my first *new* car in early 2015 (early birthday present, since didn't get it till May), Focus ST-3 MK3 facelift with all the options, and was just under £26k, do that now and your hitting nearly £37k, ignoring the new dashcam option, but you could argue more kit is included, and the engine is the detuned RS one, but still the rising costs could put the next risk on to hot hatches (that and the £40k price limit in UK before you get dumped into the premium tax bracket of £335 for 5yrs, plus your annual cost as per your car's emmisions). Subaru prices in UK jumped about £3k in late 2019/early 2020 due to the emissions fines cost being passed on, they don't sell enough units in UK/EU, now we lose the Levorg and BRZ......all a great shame 🤷‍

[@paulday8676]

So when we're told that electric cars will reach price parity with combustion engined ones by the mid 2020's, how much of that will be down to the price of the latter increasing significantly due to Euro 7 compliance, rather than EV's actually coming down in price? Then they all become unaffordable.

[@PínñedbyLîveTrādērs-o5i]

-📩📞ɪ𝟸𝟶𝟿𝟼𝟺𝟹ɪɪ𝟺𝟸 ‘

[@petarmiletic997]

Yes. The goal of emmision regulations is to make cars more expensive. This helps reduce competition for established producers and keeps newcomers out of the market

[@DavidKnowles0]

You will be able to see that in areas outside of the EU. Given the big price drops in batteries that is expected over the next 5 years, along with further simplication of battery cars,

[@DavidKnowles0]

@@petarmiletic997 Lots of new comers in China, even in the days of diesel and petrol. What keep most new comers out is the enormous capital needed to enter into the car market.

[@JohnDoe-bd5sz]

@@DavidKnowles0 Battery prices needs to drop A LOT, and then there is the whole microchip problem, that experts now say will not be solved until 2023 at the earliest. And since most countries tries to keep the price of EV's down by not having registration tax, and VAT, and even some countries give cash rebates on electrical vehicles, whenever the price drops, i can guarantee that the governments will start to put registration tax and VAT on these cars, as they are "missing" a lot of money, and if people stop buying ICE cars, they get no money to repair the roads and so on.

[@texasranger24]

When you eliminate the mobility of the peasants, fly to a climate conference in your private jet and then have the audacity to tell the people that they need to accept more restrictions, taxes and less quality of life for the greater good and climate. Or something like that. I don't speak hypocrite fluidly.

[@cp4512]

Agreed 🤬🤬🤬

[@BalmainRick]

Europe is a joke

[@Hhhh22222-w]

They don't own the jets, that's owned by the government, if you're curious you can Google what most politicians drive, they don't they have drivers

[@mustaphar9390]

Probably one of the best comments I've come across in my life. I like the way this comment was formulated.

[@ΑχιλλέαςΕμμανουηλίδης-ζ1ν]

Llease dont forget the 20 maseratis used for the transportation of the g20 leaders

[@whichwasher2007]

im not even a young person and now see even cars like 5 years old, just never obtainable. the one thing im not eactly a fan off is cross over SUV's. what was wrong with estate or even MPV's

[@justin_dunn46]

Right then, time to invest in a bicycle. Can I get a government grant too since I'll also be zero emissions? 😂

[@Ekaterate]

you forgot about farting))) So no "zero emissions" afterall...

[@justin_dunn46]

@@Ekaterate if they start charging me for farting, damn I'm gonna go on strike 😂

[@gordonmynard855]

I've been a driver for 51 years. Advances in cars over the period have been impressive. I can't believe the high road toll we had in Australia. But when I get in a well-preserved oldie I can't believe how daft the designs used to be. I spent most of my years with Australian cars crossed off my list. Unusually I had no family so no need of the large things. Now the mfrs are gone and models have proliferated so all mfrs are imported and our rules no longer make sense. Very small electric car sales no market penetration

[@ToastyClam]

I stopped reading after road toll. What might that be?

[@venomtailOG]

The prices are starting to get insane. You either buy a new budget car and it costs £20k. Or you could buy a 25+ year old luxury brand car that you know will last for another 500k miles, those cost used around £20k. Then we have the last option, buy a 10 year old car for £5k that first needs £15k worth of repairs to get it to run for decades again... This is literally the worst timeline to be in.

[@kingfailfun5600]

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[@saxon-mt5by]

Another option is to buy a £1k banger, run it until it dies, buy another one, and so on. The chances are each will last at last a year, so you save your £20k capital, and your running costs are less than servicing and depreciation as well!

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

@@saxon-mt5by Those can often still run for 3 years with maybe €1k in maintenance during that time. That's if you get a simple, easy to repair car with cheap parts, not with luxury vehicles.

[@ghvtg]

I've just bought a 2013 106,000 mile Toyota RAV4 D4D AWD for £7,800 and it drives beautifully. Its 8 years old and doesn't need £15,000 worth of repairs to be fair! I also run a 2008 Alfa Romeo GT Cloverleaf with 96,000 miles and the worst problem that's had is needing new wiper blades and a bulb....

[@raymond9009]

@@saxon-mt5by . This is a good option as often they can turn out to be reliable and last. Also you don't care about getting the car dirty or scratched, braking plastic bits etc. You never really get the money back that you spend on a car. Fords are good for this as when parts break they still hold together and work just not as good as they did before.

[@OliverStevens414]

I work for an automotive software company and therefore see car and LCV values increasing on a daily basis. It's quite worrying.

[@terrylook7632]

As someone who is firmly in the "used car only" market I fear that all the automated safety features will prove unreliable long before the basics of the vehicle have reached the end of their service life. This trend will increase the running costs of older cars and probably destroy right to repair. Automakers may find that they have killed the golden goose.

[@petelattimer6808]

but that is what they want. they want you to buy new cars, not fix old ones. manufacturers make very little from this. its the dealershps that make the money!

[@tomsixsix]

I've got a 6 year old Golf and the automatic braking, adaptive cruise, stability control, ABS etc all work absolutely fine. In general cars are lasting longer than ever before, the average age of a car on UK roads has been going up for some time now and it's now just under 10 years old, think about that, the average is 10 years old.

[@zeppkfw]

@@petelattimer6808 Yeah shit is annoying. I have an accord 03 and it's been so easy to fix up for me. My dad had a SAAB and the electrical problems require you to bring it to a specialist.

[@asambrook76]

@@tomsixsix Come back to me in 14 years time...

[@scott4207]

@@tomsixsix as someone who is a technician for a VW main dealer I can assure you that they are not all that reliable. Yes we do see the bad ones and there are many good ones out there in the road, but let me tell you, wait until the likes of your infotainment system or front assist system goes down. Not only will some of the faults be an MOT fail (if they bring on ESP lights etc) which they can do, you’ll enjoy the expensive bill that comes with it too. There’s a good saying which does ring true, and that’s ‘less gadgets, less to go wrong’. Something the used car owners of around 2013 cars and onwards will surely find out

[@AxCYeR]

just bought a 1997 c-class estate in good shape, well maintained with a bunch of nice features and a 2,8 litre V6 for 3 grand. i would never pay 15k+ for a shitty small car that's been economised to death and looks weird. everything is getting more expensive these days, however quality has long started deteriorating.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Yeah I got a 1991 Peugeot 309 and a 1995 306, both cars are as base model as they come yet the quality of the whole interior is miles ahead of anything from the 2000s let alone today.

[@bighands69]

It used to be that smaller cars could be built with good engineering at a reasonable price. Those days are gone so now what is produced is a small car that is cheap and unreliable.

[@koolguy9531]

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge the 306 gti's are so sexy still, 309s an odd choice but lovely car. I have a '91 205 and it's so fun to drive about the fuel economy is great as it's so light and the boot is massive with the seats down it fits more in than my new dacia 🤣

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

@@koolguy9531 I'm not a fan of the 306 hatchback look, but I do love the sedans, shame there never was a GTI saloon. And the 309 isn't odd at all, pretty much an even more practical, better handling and more comfortable 205.

[@JOESEMTEX69]

£3,000 quid for a old stinking 1997 C-class estate???. Whoever sold you that must have been laughing all the way to the bank, while doing a Riverdance and singing there's a mug born every minute!!!

[@sushi777300]

It's the big plan to undemocratize individual transportation for everyone and just allow it to the rich. Everyone else is supposed to use public transportation.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Public transportation is absolute shit in america.

[@Brian-om2hh]

That can't possibly work, because almost all governments raise billions in taxes from the motorist. Many other taxes would need to increase if car ownership was only for the rich. Unemployment would also rise massively......

[@Gavinconaghty]

Fantastic breakdown. I've seen first hand this effect when recently buying a first 2nd hand car for my daughter. Thanks for letting me understand.

[@Bambi851]

I've been thinking the same thing. Looking around for a Hybrid that will carry the family and the dog, and the cheapest options are around 40k. Last time I looked at buying a new car, 20k was high.

[@cjeam9199]

Load of second hand Mitsubishi Outlander PHEVs out there.

[@variatea8802]

ford maverick starts at around 20k and its a hybrid truck

[@sausagefingers714]

10-12k was OK and 20k was the higher end xD

[@variatea8802]

@@sausagefingers714 ahhh, just get the maverick, it looks like a solid truck for 20k!

[@dallysinghson5569]

@@cjeam9199 They will have been sold for a reason... Hybrids are more complex than pure ICE vehicles.

[@gwyn111]

In a way, comparing the (inflation adjusted) price of the 90s Skoda to a Dacia Sandero shows prices may not have increased as much as we think, given they are both 8000 pounds. Skoda at the time had a much worse reputation compared to now and was considered a joke back then (can remember the jokes about Skodas and Ladas in the 90's). Now however Skoda has more prestige as a brand and is better regarded, so can charge more. Dacia's current prestige is probably similar to a 90's Skoda (due to jokes on Top Gear etc.), so it makes sense it is now priced similarly to a 90's Skoda, which this video shows it is!

[@chrisjie2127]

Same story with Kia.

[@jeptoungrit9000]

Yes this channel has never heard of inflation.

[@MrR5000]

Even Ladas in 2021 are not a joke anymore and started picking up in terms of quality and reliability. Its a never ending, learning and improvement thing. Kia is just on a different level nowadays. Hats off to the Koreans.

[@gunnarliljas8459]

@@jeptoungrit9000 I thought so too, but a Skoda wasn't 8000 pounds in 1990.

[@Hipp0campus_1]

Price/Value hasn't much increased. It's just that you can't buy a car that basic anymore (except maybe a Lada). Safety regulations are a part but also profit margin expectations.

[@louisbarningham]

The Ford Maveric starts at 20k and is selling fantastic!

[@bobdobalina2931]

My current car is a 2003 Mercedes C180 Kompressor. I bought it secondhand for £140 with a known gearbox issue (which I fixed myself using cheap, non OE components from eBay for less than £80). There is no way I can afford to buy a new car. All of my cars over the years have been cheap secondhand vehicles. Unless the government gives me a new electric vehicle I will never be able to afford one. I suspect many people are in a similar position, but what about a secondhand electric car? Like all rechargeable things the battery lifespan of electric cars will shorten over time. Will I end up with a car that needs recharging every 20 miles? Quite possibly. Will it be viable to have new batteries fitted to a 15 year old electric car? I seriously doubt it. Where will the government recoup the tax that it will lose through declining petrol and diesel sales? Will everyone's electricity bills skyrocket? Will road tax be re-introduced for EVs? Nobody has told me any one of this stuff. Does anybody out there know?

[@putinthanus124]

You can have your battery replaced. You can also get them refurbished, which is much cheaper and involves replacing worn cells as opposed to the entire pack. As the battery is the component with the most limited lifespan, hopefully this will mean cars being used for much longer, reducing their carbon footprint even further. Not sure the car industry will let that happen though.

[@tristan6509]

@@putinthanus124 still expensive Batteries will get cheaper in the future, but for now $100 gets you maybe a dozen refurbished cells.

[@GreyFoxNinjaFan]

It's changed a lot more recently that that. In 2007 I paid somewhere around 15k for a (nearly) top of t he line Seat Leon FR. That won't even touch the sides for the most basic of basic models in Seat's range now.

[@nihilisticsoup2919]

Meanwhile I bought a 3yr old Suzuki Celerio with 8k miles on clock for 3k....meaning I kept the 12k in my bank, while your 12k depreciated in a chunk of metal mines gained interest :)

[@GreyFoxNinjaFan]

@@nihilisticsoup2919 meanwhile I bought a 2 year old Boardman CX bicycle with 100 miles on the clock for £150.... meaning I kept the £2850 in my bank while your £3000 depreciated in the cheapest, shittiest hunk of metal money could buy, mine's gained interest. :-)

[@nihilisticsoup2919]

@@GreyFoxNinjaFan Meanwhile my Suzuki does 100mph and keeps me dry, warm and gets me long distances much quicker than your bike, what's shitty about that? P.s I'm a cyclist who dislikes cars just for the record, I do get your counterpoint but my point is about diminishing returns. My point is you basically spent 15k on a car that isn't really special at all it's a Seat ffs and that "FR" performance is meaningless when our congested roads are so clogged up you can't get anywhere fast anyway, my 998cc 3 cylinder keeps up with Audi's and even Porsches, they overtake me and I'm right behind them again at the next traffic light. Countryside roads? Unless it's like 2am you'll be stuck behind countless lorries, tractors, busses and dithering land rovers no matter how many you try to overtake. Been there and done that in my younger days man, had the Beemer, had the hot hatch it's just not worth it your just paying premium prices for parts and use more fuel, pay more on tax, more expensive tyres etc all for what? To go no faster than the Micra in front of you? Pffft it's a Muppets game just buy the cheapest nastiest thing that will get you from A to B and bank the rest.

[@Everything_Evan]

Just repair older cars it's the most environmental thing you can do to "save the planet". Cuba is a great example of how long older cars can last.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Yeah but get into an accident in one of those

[@SuperHumhum]

No, it's not. Driving a car is the opposite of everything related to environment. Either drive a bycicle or use public transportation. Everyone who drives a car doesn't care for the environment. So, if you do need a car, buy a new one or keep your old one. Doesn't change anything.

[@Everything_Evan]

@@SuperHumhum get educated kid not brain washed, are you related to Greta?

[@SuperHumhum]

@@Everything_Evan Educated about what? What should I know? Enlighten me? Why should I be related to Greta? I like V8's and electric cars too. I don't care about the environment. Screw it. We're doomed anyway. So why not enjoy life until then? But all that doesn't change the fact, that cars aren't good for the nevironment. Neither old nor new cars. So it really doesn't matter.

[@clashman7564]

Yes. But many people don't want a car with nothing in it exept basic AC. But if you don't really need one (live in place with good public transport), then old cars should be repaired. Cars should have at least 25 year lifespan.

[@jmarthecorkes]

Really interesting video. Sadly, the joy of driving is being lost to all the tech and, as you say, this is pushing up prices. The Nanny State in overload and this is only the beginning!

[@vincentbaelde-millar670]

Thanks for making this video. Another thing that I think you should have mentioned that when these cars do hit the used market, all of the expensive electronics could be failing and cost enormous amounts to fix.

[@JohnDoe-bd5sz]

Whats worse, they contain chips that have long since, been obsoleted, so you will not be able to buy a new headlamp for your car in 10-15 years, and you can not even buy one from the scrapyard, because you need it programmed in, using secret codes that were only available on that server, the manufacturer retired last year.

[@KG-ie5le]

Great video. I was looking at new cars around the 10K mark and there are hardly any. A Ford Fiesta was 17K? Mad. Second hand will be the future for me.

[@zeppkfw]

Used car buddy.

[@eGaming180]

I can’t be the only one who hates SUVs…

[@Nordlicht05]

I don't judge people but I won't buy any... My wife often ask... I like this... Is this an SUV? Yep and this is also an SUV. I know as a Individuum this absolutely makes no effect if you get 10g more every few km. But that summaries the whole problem with everything.

[@vb239]

No you're not mate. They simply don't make sense when you talk pollution, but hey, you can drive the kids to school "safe".

[@exileatsushi7165]

SUVs are one of the biggest scams of 21st century, because people buying them say it's because they are more spacious, comfortable and safe, while none of these points is true. An Audi A6, a Skoda Superb, a Volvo V90 - to name a few - are more spacious, comfortable and safe than most SUVs.

[@PlanetNr4]

You're not the only one.

[@carevolution1807]

I get where you are coming from. However a Ford kuga is surely more spacious than a focus? As the actual car body looks taller. Also I think a lot of the SUVs have replaced the MPV/mini Van's that where popular during the turn of the century. They weren't easy on the eyes though.

[@saltyhair81]

I think the biggest issue is people leasing cars. It makes cars affordable at most price points. When you had to buy with cash, or get a loan and own the vehicle, you had to save up or buy something in your budget. Now with the lease deals, it means the RRP can be substantially more as people just lease for a small amount of time and get something way out of their normal price point. This is now drummed into people in their early 20’s who are all driving round new cars. It will just get worse as when everyone leases, the manufacturers can literally charge what they want.

[@lordnk3698]

toyota : someone need a cheap and reliable car.

[@TheSkyline35]

Toyota ain't cheap at all anymore. In fact yeah, the only car from the "old world", small, economical, not too fancy, are the Dacia. I mean, for moving around you don't need much

[@ΒΞΔΝ]

I bought a late model clearance GTI with 15 test drive miles on it back in 2004 for $17k. It had a great build quality, so many standard features cars did not come with standard until 10 years later, great gas mileage and while still have fun power coming from the 1.8L turbo. .....New GTI $30-40k depending on the package 😖

[@ΒΞΔΝ]

@Symixable Sadly the Polo is another cool car we do not get imported here in the US. I suppose they simply wouldn't sell enough alongside the Golf to justify all the changes needed for the US market.

[@drone_tours]

It's more eco friendly to keep your current car than buy a new one

[@jamesc5968]

Not if ur current car is old and needs constant repair

[@drone_tours]

@@jamesc5968 does not matter less emissions made by producing the metal and mining it and all the chemicals used to make the plastic and then there is the transport of the materials and the car itself

[@jamesc5968]

@@drone_tours thens there's the highers emissions of running a shit box old car, terrible mpg and the ongoing repair cost of an older vehicle. Unless uve got money to throw around uve got a screw loose

[@drone_tours]

@@jamesc5968 keeping an old car produces far less emissions than the production of a new one for example apparently the production of the Toyota prius produce more Co2 than driving a 3.0l V6 diesel Land Rover Discovery for 13 years And why pay 20-35k for a new car when you fix your car for like a couple of hundred which will be on a part that you'll only have to fix once

[@jamesc5968]

@@drone_tours a couple of hundred, send me ur mechanics details. My previous point. Not when repair bills are so high it makes no sense to keep an old ass car

[@ComeJesusChrist]

I’ve had well over thirty cars in the last twenty years, but none of them were new and only my first cars were newish. Back then, classic cars were also widely available and cheap to buy, insure and run. At the heart of this problem, is the forces not wanting to drive anything, anywhere. They don’t even want us to be around.

[@dougdax]

That's why I have ZERO intentions to buy a new car. Expensive to buy, expensive to maintain. That's why I drive a 26 year old VW and intend to buy another 20 year old car.

[@Brian-om2hh]

The thing you'll need to keep a look out for are emissions charging schemes. These are likely to be heavily implemented in the next few years. The scheme in Birmingham in the UK is an example. That scheme charges £8 per day - payable 7 days a week - to enter the city centre if your vehicle does not comply with Euro 6 emissions regs.

[@dougdax]

@@Brian-om2hh Good point, but I live in Brazil ;)

[@AssociationGamers]

Cheap car, cheaps houses, cheap food and many other things are a thing of the past. When I say cheap, I mean reasonably priced.

[@leternalex11]

We love the environment so much that we now use rare resources to build electric cars that are disposable in max 10 years. Also we love to believe that using bio fuels (which consume more energy to produce) will help climate change. Where are all the 1.9 diesels that could take the family trip with max 4L/100km? Why were they considered bad?

[@memyselfandI90001]

because the elite doesn't like so many poor people clogging the highways and airports

[@lolish1234]

Not disposable but indeed probably depreciated in value so much that a new battery won't make sense. Or if you want to keep the car forever

[@acidflare8345]

@@lolish1234 to be fair there is almost zero recycling of lithium batteries, and you don't want to be where they do it in the third world. whole towns so toxic in Europe they would be cordened off with an exclusion zone

[@youraveragejdmenthusiast430]

@@acidflare8345 and sometimes, they catch on fire the electrics more likely

[@georgeb5262]

@@acidflare8345 Well, Tesla claim that they recycle 60% of the batteries they have. Another thing is how much actually reach the fabric.

[@boogboog8097]

About 20 years ago I heard William Haig laughingly say they (the government) would simply tax drivers off the road as the most effective green policy. He was on a hot 🎤 and didn't realise.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Taxing drivers completely off the road altogether would present other issues, such as a £35 billion black hole in tax revenues. There would also be a 3 to 4 million plus increase in the jobless total, due to the closure of oil refineries, fuel tanker drivers, petrol stations, car dealerships, garage services, tyre fitting depots, car body repair shops, places like Halfords, the AA and RAC, Local Authority road repair crews etc... I could go on, but you get the picture....

[@alexmaddox2255]

Glad you brought up the inequality factor. I've been worried about this for a while, as new cars get more and more expensive, and so do used cars, poorer people will be priced out of car ownership. They are the people who often rely on car ownership the most to access places of work.

[@BTrain-is8ch]

That's how not being a customer works though. People that primarily buy used cars don't get a seat at the table. It's an economical approach but the end result is that the companies who make cars make them for the people that buy them from them. Refusing to buy new means you get stuck with whatever the people that do buy new get. Not a great position.

[@berthull9333]

I think the people going to work are the ones with the money. Do you think poor people work more than successful people? You got it backwards, Alex.

[@alexmaddox2255]

@@berthull9333 I meant accessing work in remote places that cannot be done at home, jobs that don't pay well but are essential for poorer people because they have limited skills. Both comments have misunderstood what I tried to say.

[@BTrain-is8ch]

@@alexmaddox2255 I understood your point. My point was that those people were never buying cars from the manufacturers, the people that buy new (in the US at least) aren't looking for bargain basement models, so those people get what the used market gives. That's the effective down side to letting other people choose for you. People talk about this phenomenon like the big bad corporations intentionally eliminated options for lower income people to make them suffer but the lower income people gave up their seats at that table intentionally and the manufacturers responded by cutting options people weren't buying. I'm not saying it's not happening (although it might be a bit overstated since depreciation curves do trend towards zero ultimately). I'm saying if you don't buy anything from Ford then Ford naturally won't care what you need. They'll cater to the people that do and those people apparently want 60k premium SUVs/trucks and Mustangs.

[@SmileyEmoji42]

@@BTrain-is8ch That's only partly true. Nobody wants to buy a car that depreciates rapidly and it looks like there will soon be no second hand cars less than £5k - We'll be scrapping cars worth more than some new cars now! Not very green.

[@gorebrush]

50% of cars sold are SUV's. What an utterly depressing statistic. I can't stand them.

[@rawadishak2326]

Unfortunately the Dacia looks way better than the BMW from the outside

[@TonyTheMech]

Dacia was made here în Romania😁 it s a perfect cheap car

[@zhila5958]

everything looks better than modern BMWs

[@xIcarus227]

@@zhila5958 I think some of them look great (8 series), but yeah on average I think BMW has the ugliest cars right now. I still can't get over how much they fucked the new 2-series coupe. It's like they don't want to sell it.

[@dickenscider7328]

@@xIcarus227 hi, how can you say the f word and not get deleted like me?

[@xIcarus227]

@@dickenscider7328 I didn't know youtube deletes f words. For me, youtube deletes comments which link to most other websites. Weird.

[@polomint46]

As someone who only buys secondhand due to price, your stuck with a choice of cars the first owners think is a good idea. Which knocks the list of good cars to a handful. Recently bought a 16 plate 3 series estate that should last another 8 years, for £10k that was difficult to find.

[@KC-lm7pl]

I wouldn't be surprised for every ton of Co2 they save in efficiency over the cars lifetime, it takes an extra 3 tons at the manufacturing stage to do so, something that is never even mentioned. and it's gonna get worse as cars keep getting more complicated and bigger.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Actually no, people will just use the public transport more, China and the EU are betting on public transportation for the future, that's already enough to cut co2 emission by a lot.

[@dbclass4075]

@@Hhhh22222-w They should focus on that rather than their attention divided. I mean instead of reducing emissions by absolute figures, the loophole prompted the increase of heavier cars.

[@josephoberlander]

Yet the vast majority of actual CO2 now comes from retail, industry, and shipping. That ship out in port delivering these cars pollutes more during its trip from overseas than the cargo of cars is likely to do in their entire lifetime. The focus right now is on cars as the scapegoat instead of the actual large polluters. They need to stop where they are a give the auto industry time to catch up while they go after commercial polluters.