Finding an 8th or 9th Gen Si - Episode 1

The search has officially begun for an 8th or 9th Gen Si. My search criteria are quite strict, but I'm okay with waiting it out for the right car for the right price.
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[@kevinmiser5325]

I'm a new subscriber and just wanted to let you know how much I have been appreciating the channel. I have been going through some of your older videos, and I think the main appeal for me is this feels like "old school" KZbin. Not over edited, longer form, and most importantly...you show the crappy things that happen to you. So much of KZbin now is over edited highlight reels or content that is made 100% for money generation, and seeing you, your cars, your family and the crappier side of things that we all go through is really refreshing. Keep up the good work and please please please, don't change your video style!

[@Camhill182]

I appreciate that! I've had the same style for 5 years, so no point in changing it now

[@brokentradgedy]

$16k for a banged up 9th gen is insane. You can buy an 8th gen for 5 grand

[@itspurpstudios]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Cause Milage does matter on a 9th Gen Si, its not like its a 90s Honda

[@itspurpstudios]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Nobody truly cares if you mention its highway miles, you’ll still get lowballed. Everything with that 9th gen is fixable

[@brokentradgedy]

@@itspurpstudios not really especially on a K series.

[@itspurpstudios]

@@brokentradgedy So you’ll buy a S2000 for $15,000 with 300k miles over a S2000 for $16,000 with 120k miles cause in your mind, miles don’t matter right. It’s cheaper deal for $15,000, right ?

[@santitobendito]

shit ive seen some 10th gen for sale for a couple more $

[@TacticalToolbox]

Try an 8th gen this time...Be sure to get an 09 or newer, they had a facelift and transmission upgrade

[@Camhill182]

I'm looking. Going to try to buy the one on Cars and Bids

[@LiljamezZz]

Im looking for 9th gens, I really am attracted to the k24a

[@walahmelons5504]

@@LiljamezZz The 9th gen has a k24z7

[@brokentradgedy]

@@LiljamezZz that's crazy considering a K20 is a better engine in every way shape and form vs the plastic intake manifold, integrated exhaust port, low redline, half VTEC, wannabe race engine K24

[@lcameeno1]

​@brokentradgedy some people just prefer the torque of the k24 rather than having to Rev high to bring the power out of a k20

[@raymondprum1660]

I had an 8th gen not too long ago, and I promise you; the 8th gen feels so raw and that vtec crossover is crazy. Revving that engine to 8.2k rpms is so exhilarating. Of course, it feels much older. But that's the point. Raw and LAST generation of TRUE Vtec. I love the look of the facelift 9th gen, but the handling, performance, and feelings of driving an 8th gen SI just feels so good.

[@carlossince92]

You had two 9th gen’s, try a 8th this time

[@Camhill182]

i'm bidding on one

[@JayKBra]

@@Camhill182yeah bud, once I got the Mugen fully breathing and tuned, my top end gapped the 9/10’s without much fret… plus the sound alone makes every drive feel near exotic. I have a K24Z3 in my 6mt TSX, and love it love it but it doesn’t get me high like the K20Z3. I even prefer the K20Z3 to the F20C (bought 2002 S brand new) by a significant margin. It’s Honda bliss when done correctly… being “faster” means a lot less when your senses are being overwhelmed with visceral joy. Make the right call brother… cheers.

[@Red-ev8ls]

Fr 9th gen are so boring compared to the 8th gen

[@younome1845]

@@Red-ev8lswhy do you say that? I’m currently looking for a 8th or 9th gen. Wondering what’s up with the 9th gen.

[@dc5v529]

@@younome1845I was also looking for an 8th gen si, until I got to drive a 9th gen Si. It changed my mind. Now I’m looking for a 9th gen Si. Underrated. I’m hoping people keep ignoring them.

[@jordancrowder9331]

Cam. Please please. Find an 8th gen. I know you love the 9th but you had 2 or 3 of them. I know you will have a permanent smile reving that thing right out. :)

[@Camhill182]

I'm trying, but they're even more rare than 9th Gens in good condition

[@jordancrowder9331]

I feel that man. I’ve been looking for some time. Most of them are all clapped out and modded. Or the body is falling apart. :( but 8th gen is the way to go in my opinion and based on your viewers they are wanting it too lol

[@jordancrowder9331]

@@Camhill182on a side note. Good to see you back making some content. Hope everyone is doing well

[@IsaacPoopsAlot]

@@Camhill182 You gotta travel like you did for the FK8, it'll be worth it, they're out there

[@Shakeem]

I loved my 8th Gen you’ll love the K20 screamer

[@21WRX]

Love the more frequent video post. You’re the only one I have post notifications on YT, keep it coming bro!

[@Kasperblk]

I tried to find an 8th or 9th gen Si about a year ago and it was impossible they were all clapped out. I ended up getting an S197 Mustang (coyote) because an old guy owned it and it was incredibly clean. I was looking for an Si because I’m a Honda enthusiast and I’ve had multiple in the past.

[@dz_gt500]

Good luck on the search Cam. It’s definitely hard to find an si that’s clean and not overpriced.

[@xeemxyooj3316]

Get an 8th gen! I totaled my 8th and went to 9th but miss the engine in the 8th so badly. The higher RPM and VTEC is so much fun, both great options so good luck!

[@tristankimball834]

Excited to watch this later and hope you find one that’s worth it. You need another si for the channel!

[@jaycamacho8179]

You had two 9th gen’s. Get a third!! 😂😂

[@cartoonathalo]

As much as I hate to say this, try a 8th gen SI. I know I sound like the others but you already did a 9th gen but you sold it. I know as a car guy you do miss it but the 8th gen seems better for you.

[@HueyPNathan]

For those of us who’s been with you since you got your previous 9th gen this is awesome to see again! I wish you were able to get that Mugen Si you went & looked at a couple years ago it was just horrible in person once you got there like this one 😢

[@onepointsix647]

I just picked up an FL5 CTR a few days ago and love the car, great power and refinement BUT, I kept my 8th gen and just took for a spin; the rawness of the car, the sound of the engine, the VTEC cross over and go cart feel reassured me that I made the right decision in keeping it. They don't make engines like the K20Z3, and while it doesn't make 300+ horsepower stock, it's such an enjoyable car that I would recommend anyone get one, just for the smiles per liter/gallon alone.

[@Tanner_Teves]

LFG 😤😤😤 Good luck in your search bro!

[@Kevinn714]

I have a 2012 FB6, still wish I would have waited a year or 2 later, like how they look but still LOVE my FB6 🤙🏼

[@himynameisbrianw]

Thanks for sharing your experience, I own a 2012 Civic EX and I'd like to upgrade one day too but my car is super bulletproof and have no reason to.

[@armandoaparicio5799]

Get the 8th gen. Trust me it’s such a fun car. I had one and I loved how aggressive it gets when you hit vtec. It feels like a little go kart that acts innocent until you hit 6k and it roars like a loin. It wasn’t fast but man it’ll put a smile on my face

[@Cmobley_]

Hey , Cameron. One thing to watch out for when buying a used car , the windshield. If it is aftermarket there is a possibility of hidden rust in the pinchweld area. First check to see if the windshield is factory by looking at the "bug" in the corner . If it says Honda there's a good chance it's factory. If it says anything else Pilkington , PPG , FUYAO , XYG ETC. Be very careful. Not all windshield installers care about not scratching where you cant see and then you have a rust problem. You can also look under the headliner at the bead to see if its nice and even or a nasty mess. Stay away from anything that looks subpar or shows hints of rust under the headliner. The bottom corners of the windshield and body are also a good place to check. Just remember that a factory windshield is best and scrutinize any car that has had its glass replaced. If in doubt take it through a car wash and look for leaks after.

[@rafacereceres1316]

I had the same car in 2013 up until 2018. Great car. I been thinking about getting another one and i think you just convinced me😂. Sold my fk8 a few months back but i miss my hondas

[@Simpler]

I was super new to the game when I got my 9th gen. Roughly 57k miles, bought it for $21k from a dealership. Not happy now 3 years later, but still love my lil orange coupe

[@Rianuary]

On a separate note, can’t wait for the day when you buy that Pontiac

[@Mansimran24]

get one dude! The grey one is exactly like mine but has nav and heated seats cause you need them for canadian winters 😂

[@Jam617_]

You should try and get the 2014 to 2015 si instead of the 13 bettter wheels and touch screen display

[@rafaryfc]

You can keep looking on other options but my opinion on the dents and the fender are really easy to fix and considering you can speak with Marco it will be perfect.

[@stevef3521]

Could be a number of things going on with the clutch. Could you bring Marco or another friend along when looking at cars? Otherwise, pay for a vehicle inspection before buying. Glad to see you posting again. Good luck on the search.

[@matthewmccann1485]

With regards to the ac, I had the same issue my with 10th Gen Si. Brought it to the dealer they gave me the same crap about recharging, I did my some research and found out Honda put out a recall for the 10 Generation “AC condenser” which is the reason is not blowing fully cool. Once that’s changed it’s night and day and I only had to pay for labor! Def give them a call and I hope this helps !!👍🏻

[@albertvidal956]

He’ll yeah I’m currently building my 9 gen to a k24a RBB

[@thatkingdavid1819]

I just got a used Honda civic with 44,000 miles and the A/C takes forever during a hot day to kick in cold air. And having it on ECO mode play a factor as well.

[@Tanner_Teves]

Just finished the video, I think with all the problems that car had I think it would be best to maybe keep looking. The mileage on it looks pretty good but all the body damage and weirdness with the clutch would make me question it too. If you can’t find a similar one for around the same mileage and price however, then I think it wouldn’t be a bad buy!

[@reidsierhuis9220]

I stole an 8th gen si sedan with a jackson racing supercharger kit and a much of supporting mods for $5k. Only 60k miles but rebuilt title. Car is very healthy pulls crazy!!

[@gabrieltan2101]

I just bought a 9th gen 2012 si with 45,000 miles original miles on it and I love it such a steal i think

[@GiaAnDao]

Rattling might be the input shaft upon release of the clutch. Just a hunch

[@mteske1]

I had two 8th gen coupes I got brand new. Wish I never got rid of them. The first one was totaled. You know a car is good when you replace it with the same car.

[@JRichDetailz]

8th I have a 9th Gen yes they do look better but the 8th Gen has the better motor and transmission get an 8th Gen

[@rstuff1605]

But you can stay in 5th in a 35 zone or 6th on the highway

[@rstuff1605]

And still pull with torque while singing kawasaki let the good times roll

[@Jayyy64]

I’ll take my 9th

[@pinkstars2185]

You definitely need a new 9th. I'd love to see it built up

[@briansweagan9659]

I was in the market for an 8th/9th gen si before I got my FK8 a couple years back. Let me just say finding a clean 8th/9th gen is no easy task. Paint chips, scratches, curb rashes in all four wheels, etc. It seems like barely any owners took care of them, and it’s just going to get worse with time.

[@theyoungazn]

I have 2015 my clutch be squeaking a lot. First/second gear makes a noise when I’m releasing the clutch

[@itslosojuhurd4551]

thats crazy b4 i bought my 9th gen i was supposed to go look at that si but didnt want to take the drive from orlando

[@AFatOcelot]

YES! Come back to us..... we have missed you... 9th gens unit. I have a 13 lx but its immaculate and it's my baby regardless!

[@AFatOcelot]

also idk if you noticed all the overspray /glue on the front passenger windshield pillar of the car at 3:10

[@Camhill182]

I noticed the window trim was all cracked on every window

[@AFatOcelot]

@@Camhill182 is that why there’s all that splatter/glue at 3:10?

[@dandys.]

We're twinning with that grey Abrecrombie T shirt hahah

[@Rone8Eleven]

Are there any rsx s in your area you’d be willing to buy?

[@cameronlasch]

another banger 🫡

[@rcysiFg2]

Get an 8th gen Si for sure! It's so much more fun to drive, you won't regret it. Sold mine and I miss it already, looking for another one currently.

[@0.........0]

Whyd you sell yours 😢

[@rcysiFg2]

@@0.........0 Had it for 5 years. Had around 180k on it and had the opportunity to sell it for what I bought it for after driving it for years lol so decided to sell.

[@0.........0]

@@rcysiFg2 Lol cant wait to see you back in another one

[@rstuff1605]

Hey hey cam, you talking about great value. What do you think of there super tech product

[@shooterP0]

I have owned a 8th gen si, tried both coupe and sedan. Also had a 9th gen si. Long story short, 8th gen si is the best

[@skyknight6833]

How you looked at the 11th gen?

[@walahmelons5504]

Cam, I know the market is likely different in Florida but I just bought a 2014 si coupe in Texas with 74k miles, no accidents, immaculate condition and only 2 owners before me for 14k . I would try looking private market over dealerships for one. Dealerships are still gouging these cars

[@tjs99ss]

I absolutely love my fl5 but selling my 8th gen si was the biggest mistake ever. I'd reccomend an 8th gen for sure.

[@dokkenp9037]

I had a 9th gen but prefer the 8th gen. Its more fun due to the real vtec, more aftermarket parts, k24 swap is easier and if you’re ever bored of the look, theres always a FD2 conversion to do, best looking of all.

[@machitocars5247]

You just have to adjust the pedal mine was like that when I bought it easy fix 👍🏼

[@kballs94]

Another gray 2013 eh?

[@Chaznasty87]

Car salesmen are so uneducated these days. I could see the metal valve stems on the wheels indicating a sensor on the wheel. I have 13 Si and have worked in the automotive industry for quite some time and several years with a wheel remanufacturing company in Tampa. If the light is flashing, I would think that either the module has a fault or a sensor or sensors are dead. Being a 13MY it makes more sense for the sensor itself to be dead (battery inside the sensor). They have an average life of 6-9 years. Cameron, I remember watching some of your older videos with a previous silver 13 Si. I enjoy your content.

[@BlacKBerry23311]

Just off the cosmetic stuff alone I wouldn't buy it and sure as heck not for 16k No need to rush and buy one, take your time and find one that's actually solid.

[@SoxFam0us]

id love to see you do an 8th gen ( i own a 13 9th myself tho lol). The point about the red honda badges, at least here in toronto, everyone does em and i dont think its a forsure indication it was modified and beat the crap out of. I will say though, my fb6 also grabs basically not too far off the floor, but i dont have any reference point to know whether its supposed to be like that or not. I just replaced my clutch (still oem) and it bites around the same point now that its worn in

[@CreampuffK]

that noise was the input shaft bearing, rattling goes away when you push in the clutch opposite noise of the throw out bearing

[@Camhill182]

does that need to be replaced, or is it just a harmless design flaw that won't damage anything?

[@Corny5OH]

@@Camhill182that means the bearing has failed. Eventually it will start slipping into other gears and the gears will get destroyed due to excessive play in the shaft

[@Camhill182]

@@Corny5OH so is an OEM replacement recommended or?

[@64Spokes]

Seems like every used si is beat to shit and overpriced, I’ve been looking for years. I’ve expanded my search to include 9th gen 6-6 accord coupes which are a little harder to find then si’s but generally in better condition overall. Why is it so hard finding clean manual transmission Hondas 😭

[@No1uknw]

There’s been a 15 coupe for sale at my local dealer for about 3+ years. 600 some miles but they want $40k.

[@andrewdero6271]

Pick a 8th gen si 09+ but now a days you can rarely see without paint issue not unless u get it repainted

[@trdrav4]

Florida dealer fees are insane...best to buy out of state, and you did well buying all of your cars before moving to FL

[@Camhill182]

I just got off the phone for the second time today about the si in Tennessee. They have an $800 fee, and on top of that, the sales manager said the price of the car was not negotiable lol

[@trdrav4]

@@Camhill182 "I know what I got"

[@Dream_Chaser166]

Cam, if you get a 9th or 8th Gen keep it for the long run bro. Would love to see the outcome of the si 💯.

[@jayquinox5536]

bro you need to check out the accord coupe 6-6

[@johnm7521]

I have an 8th with a K24 swap i love it

[@crazypandarag3]

If you do get it put a turbo in the 8th gen

[@premestaaa]

Got my 2011 8th gen for 12k with 114k miles. Pricey but worth it, over a year of owning it and drives smooth 😁

[@daisbestDA9]

My 8th gen was nice but I couldn't stand how long the dash/windshield was

[@iiozzyii]

I wish you would’ve bought that mugen awhile ago

[@Promisedland_garage]

My 9th gen has red badges,since first owner ,and it’s 29,000 miles ,only intake Badges nothing to do with beating on cars😂😂 but that clutch bite it’s the real issue😅😅

[@Ballsack44]

Throw out bearing for clutch noise?

[@tegarthbishop7932]

There are cleaner si out there, keep looking

[@slowka]

Havent been to your channel in awhile. You picked a bad time to get a 9thgen. They are still at a premium,especially with the L15's looking like crap, and get frail when makingn significant power gains.Good luck!I am definitely keeping my 2013 FB6.

[@Camhill182]

@@slowka I’ll find something 😀

[@ulisesgranados3815]

I have a 13 9th gen si sedan rally red just sitting it does need a bit of work tho would be great for a project car

[@Jambiswag]

Love the Boston hat

[@AnythingGoesJoJo]

I had the opportunity to get a brand new 2019 Civic Type-R back in September 2019 when my 2010 RX-8 got totalled on an accident...but I chose to get a 2015 Civic Si Coupe since it was also going to be a daily 😉

[@steve8803]

I found a 2008 Civic Si coupe for sale locally. All stock, no accidents for sale by original owner. Was garage kept and is like brand new with only 4000 miles on it(yes, 4000 miles, not a typo). How much would that be worth? Owner wants $28k cdn(about $20,500US).

[@Geo-Media]

4k miles!? That's amazing.

[@Camhill182]

I would pay asking price. Thats a crazy find

[@Dude00796]

That's an instant buy if you ask me. A friend of mine is the original owner of his 2007 Si sedan with over 200k on it. Been stock the whole time and he beats the hell out of it lol. Absolutely no issues. Just regular maintenance.

[@OleMisss]

@@Camhill182yeah that’s absolutely worth it if you’re really a civic guy. Probably could count on one or two hands how many of those are left with that mileage.

[@f8698]

Crazy thing is, that Canadian Honda with 4k miles probably has more rust than the 50k one from Florida. I HATE salt it straight up ruins vehicles

[@ebatr8]

That car seems a little rough. The TPMS is a sensor in the tire only on 2012s. After that they don't have em anymore. The way they didnt fix that fender means they do sloppy/poor reconditioning or theyre into that car for way too much money to fix it and sell it for a profit. It otherwise looks nice.

[@CGNLEvolved]

Damn, looks like the 9th Gen be holding their value 👍🏽

[@CGNLEvolved]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks just checked the blue book, it’s holding value surprisingly

[@CGNLEvolved]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks i get all that, the private party value is way higher than i thought for these cars. I was expecting 6-8k range. If these are still selling on websites private party for 12-15k range with 100k miles, i got mine as a steal

[@tsteinhart15]

stick to the 9th gen but get a 14/15 with the red interior, bigger rsb, and keyless entry this time 👍

[@Benbennedict1664]

Definite no on that one. As-is id pay 7000 for it. Also, I prefer the the 8th gen NA over the 9th feeling wise. The steering feels better and the k20z3 is a much more fun motor to rev out. My 8th gen had 280k miles when I sold it and it was still going strong.

[@HardwiredZ06]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when dealerships sell used cars for retail prices aren't they supposed to repair cosmetic or mechanical issues and things like tires and brakes, etc. before they go out for sale? They literally did no repair work for that, just took in on trade in value and listed it for retail lol. Surely there is a better deal out there

[@dnaxfilms9132]

Ninth Gen coupe my boy I had a red one now my brother owns it

[@ericrodriguez1013927]

Crazy how things come around sold your 9th gen to buy another. 😅

[@jjmunz7718]

8th generations honda si are one of the best generations of the Hondas built besides the 1999 2000 👍. A lot of potential for sure and is going to become a classic car one day soon worth a lot of money 👍

[@d00fin]

was looking for a 9th gen ended up with an 11th gen type r

[@Arrowblackzero1]

The rattling is probably the throw out bearing, easy fix

[@Simpler]

I said this maybe a year ago but if you're ever up in New England, NH area, come drive my 9th gen! Nothing special but ily and wanna drive with you

[@jayczyzyk9707]

That nineth gen will be sold who has the credit very quickly

[@brokentradgedy]

lmao no it won't no one is buying that beater especially for $16,000......you can get an 8th gen for 5 grand

[@axionind]

Ouch $16k for a 9th gen, find a rare 2012 4 door only made for 1 year in that design

[@gigatron2008]

Damn I just sold a really good condition ‘12 Si sedan for way cheaper last month. Would have shipped it to you. No dents no accidents 100k miles 3rd owner in white. For $12k Canadian. That’s like $3k usd lol

[@Zoloist]

doc fee is capped to 900 in fl

[@andresmontoya4531]

Hey! If it interest you I have a 9th gen si 2015 orange with 77k miles

[@JDMAUTO]

Go with the 8th!

[@LPDarkSoulsHD]

I loved my 15 Si. Bought it brand new and kept it for 7 years. It was boosted for 5 of them. They are outstanding cars. However, the 09-11 8th gen Si is a very, very good platform for both NA and boost. The K20 is unstoppable. It screams like a banshee in the top end. I would recommend that over a 9th gen if you intend to modify.

[@siproject3436]

Go for a red or orange 2014-2015

[@THAudioVisual]

They priced way off on that car. It had no infotainment screen or the red seats. That higher price is for that model. The first car should be 11k max, even in excellent condition, which it isn't.

[@Mr357shooter]

Why was the Mustang such a big mistake?

[@Blackhammers69]

CamHSquad 😮

[@miglioreo2900]

I got a black 2013 si. 82k miles. No red emblems. Lol I'm open for offers