Finishing the Electric Fan Install I Started 15 Years Ago

Do you ever go back and look at your old work and say I would not do it that way today. Well today I get out my Series III Land Rover and finish the install of the electric fan properly that I put in the Land Rover fifteen years ago.
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[@FordForTheWin]

its really cool watching an american cousin show love for our old british cars! even respectfully calling it a bonnet instead of hood top work matey.

[@48920jeff]

I’m a sucker for any Land Rover or Healey content. Keep them coming Steve!!!

[@JBLewis]

I've tried the solder sticks, and with a hot air tool, where you can safely hover over the solder joint, I feel like I've had good success.

[@FantaLaStrada]

I was surprised he used a torch and not a heat gun. Other than that he makes great videos and I have learned so much from all his videos!

[@parrotraiser6541]

Soe useful practical information on the solder sticks,though it does look as though they woulfd be perfect for workers with 3 hands, one of them fireproof. :-)* Also, the meta-information on procedures is valuable.

[@vinyl_soul9292]

I use solder rings all the time, it is a good product.

[@melvindavison8532]

I really like this video and would like to see more Land Rover video’s

[@strokenumber3]

Knowledgeable.

[@pittschapelfarm2844]

.Didn't know about those connectors. Thanks!

[@fepatton]

Very neat solution! Could the electric fan be used instead of the mechanical fan? That Land Rover is one of my dream cars. My only concern with those solder connections (admitting I have zero experience with them, but have lots of experience soldering) is that proper solder technique is to heat the _wires_ and let their heat melt the solder. This ensures that the solder flows nicely into the wires. This seems like it's counting on melting the solder and hoping it flows into the wires, which is a recipe for a cold solder joint that you can't see.

[@fishaussie9112]

🇦🇺back to wrenching again

[@tassietony1226]

Great Video Steve keep them coming must look into these solder sticks

[@jberg8159]

That’s a nice ride

[@ricksmith4736]

This sounds like my never ending home remodel..... Its a good think I am not married anymore.... LOL

[@MarcoSilva-x9y]

More series 3 videos please

[@paulnielsen8528]

Steve - 7:30 or so. Don't cut 2 wires together. I know you're careful but if it's live and you short a circuit you get lightning and possibly expensive blue smoke.

[@davidnelson6893]

Yes that is cool trick wow

[@100CupsColombia]

Ahhh I remember getting one of those stuck up to the axles in a bog! The farmers V8 version pulled it right out!

[@Kenjh71]

Skip soldering, just use uninsulated crimp connectors and heat shrink. Dig into the wiring of old classic cars and find crimp connectors holding up just fine. .

[@dailyreader506]

Two locking clamps (haemostats) would work as a second set of hands for that solder butt connector. The cheap automotive type.

[@MrDunky48]

Round the corner from where I live there is a similar age Land Rover to yours? And a sticker in the window saying “not for sale” I’m sure LR could have sold many more of the old style Defenders although realise you also have a new one! Simplicity seems to commend itself if you want to visit places with few facilities.

[@davidlyon1899]

Did you see they found Land Rover serial number 1 missing for a long time?

[@lyndonwortley6329]

Its location was known for many years. Must be 20 years since I first saw magazine pictures of it sitting where it had been parked up on the farm. Julian Shoolheiffer did a great job refurbishing it for Sir Jim Ratcliffe, owner of INEOS who make the Grenadier.

[@davidlyon1899]

@@lyndonwortley6329 20 years, ha. i saw the drivetribe thing a few days ago, they made it sound like a recent discovery.

[@ptstouring49]

A fan shroud will work wonders and I doubt the electric fan will rarely kick on. In good health a series cooling system is very robust.

[@stephenricketts7764]

I am not making excuses for myself but sometimes you do a quick job and come back to it later and think 'what!!?' That looks like a good product as a thermostat only let down by those clips. I have seen other KZbin presenters use the solder sticks though I have as yet not tried them myself. I can see in certain situations they may not be practical. Thanks for the video on the Land Rover Steve. 👍👍

[@campionoverbagh561]

Yep anything LR Or XJ6

[@bobmanzi7712]

great stuff thanks

[@tommaples9174]

Just about every old Landy uses a shroud, that way they can cross through the bush at a cool temp..

[@petebrown6952]

Why on earth is the original (crap) fan still on the pulley? Installed hundreds of these electric fans in my life, every LR and most English sports cars. Temp sensor fitted with same unit as you but with switched override inside, no new holes ever made, sneak probe alongside loom in to cab with tiny light to identify fan on. Original fan sucks engine power, is noisy and achieves very little air flow, B1N it please! Strongest fans come from Australia, ambient temp there is highest around, well done Aussies! Regards from England.

[@martin4787]

I just asked the same question, and I'm also a Landy expert (retired) from England. The wiring looked like it had been done by a DIY guy to me Pete. Not impressed.

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video Steve :) yes be nice more work on Land Rover and nice devices installed to ! What year is Land Rover you have there ? Also so cool my one cousin Dawn boyfriend had one back years ago in 2002 !

[@MrTombo-gg4bq]

Steve do a sodder stick test at the work bench show us how strong they are, try to pull the wires apart. Thank you. If there may have been overheating issues, why didn't the design include a shroud?

[@r1lark]

There is a video on YT where they cut the solder joint apart. They did several different joints using several different heat sources. The cut apart solder joints all looked pretty poor. This was the deciding factor in my not ordering a set of these.

[@dirthawk2669]

Great Video Steve !! I have seen those new connectors on facebook and wondered if they were true , Apparently they are , you always do such clean work and make it look easy , Thank You for Taking us along with you !!! Dirt Hawk Ya'll !!!

[@FIVEVEEZEE]

Be careful with those solder sticks, the engine bay heat can melt the low temp solder in them.

[@johnquilter7620]

I run a pusher fan on my Jaguar 3.8S but its relay device includes an adjustable potentiometer 160F to 230F and the sensor looks like an aluminum nail with wires attached intended to be pushed into the radiator core which I did not do fearing damage, but simply left it clipped inside the fan shroud. Seems to work fine. Mine is wired live all the time which permits engine bay ventilation after shutdown to reduce fuel vaporization from the SU carbs and starting carb.

[@TOPOM42]

I tried those solder connectors a while back, i felt they were good in theory but trash in execution. Too much work to melt that solder well and heat shrink started melting.

[@bbrut3332]

They make a deflector tip arrangement for electric heat guns that concentrates the heat on the solder and then can be used to insure the ends are shrunk. Used by the military all the time now days.

[@Turbochargedtwelve]

Sure but I’d bet the ones the military uses are from a reputable manufacturer and cost a bit more.

[@martin4787]

Why didn't you remove the engine fan blade as it's no longer required? I hope you tidied up the wires to the temperature sender and fitted a fuse from the battery to the relay Steve.

[@ThisWeekWithCars]

1. I want to keep it as original as I can. 2. This has just a generator so I want as little electrical draws as possible so I want the original fan to do most of the work. 3. Relays and electric fans can be unreliable and leave you stranded waiting for your engine to cool down.

[@martin4787]

@@ThisWeekWithCars Hi Steve. I understand you wanting to keep it original, but that went out the window when you cut the top hose. I'd remove the dynamo and fit a Lucas Alternator, as the vast majority of SIII's came with the Lucas Alternator as standard. Electric fans are probably one of the most reliable auxiliary items you can fit. I assume you carry a tool kit with you? Then remove the engine fan and throw it under the seatbox just incase.

[@gvxclassics]

Make a video about how to open the hood with a damn tire on it. I hate storage of these big monster tires up there.

[@ThisWeekWithCars]

It is very heavy but it looks so cool!

[@lyndonwortley6329]

@@ThisWeekWithCars The weight of 7.50x16 tyres on a LWB or Wolf wheel can cause stress issues for the bonnet, particularly if driven off road.... but, as you say, it looks cool!! 6.00x16 wheels and tyres on a S1 are an easier lift when stored on the bonnet.

[@nadaspecht4706]

Please add some sort of circuit protection

[@douglasschafer6372]

I see that your are partial to British iron. And it seems a lot of that iron is Land Rovers. On Bring-a-trailer, every day they seem to list a Land Rover. However there is also a fair amount of Toyota Land Cruisers. If you were to recommend one over the other for a 75 year old in the middle of the Dakotas which would you recommend and why. Thanks and I enjoy your channel. Doug

[@ThisWeekWithCars]

I have owned and own plenty of both Land Cruisers and Land Rovers. If you just need a four wheel drive and want something that will be reliable get a Land Cruiser but if you think you will be in areas where you might get stuck I would get the Land Rover. All of my Toyotas have let me down getting stuck in the simplest of obstacles but the similarly equipped Land Rovers always make it through. I have a vintage FJ40 and if I had to drive the truck to the trail and back it is the one I would take, if I was trailering it there I would take the Land Rover.

[@davidg2073]

Steve Should you not have tidied up the old wiring and tied down the control ground wire from the thermocouple given its route over the fan??

[@jonatday]

Free Wheeling hubs cause more steering damage and wear on Landrovers than anything else, and are the reason lots of people think Landrovers have rubbish vague steering, due to oil starvation to the swivel bearings, waste of money, also add complexity......

[@special_dx]

You need to put a fan shroud on it, you won't need the electric fan.

[@elainerussell924]

Glad you don't work on my car I don't have 15 years to wait !😳

[@TravisTheTreeGuy]

Better late than never

[@petebrown6952]

Can we take it that 15 years ago you weren't a great auto electrician! What a rats nest brother.

[@davesherry5384]

It's not a British Car it is an English car. And when working on English cars, they prefer the SOLDER (SOUL-DER) Not solder (SOD-HER). You are very welcome.