Fire Maple Petrel 600ml Heat Exchanger Pot

Fire Maple Petrel 600ml Pot
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Comes With
Mesh stuff sack
Key Features
Designed to work with the FM Hornet 2
Heat exchanger
Folding handle
Triton lid
Graduations marks in Metric and Imperial
Will hold a 4oz gas canister
Compatible with stoves that open to a 120° angle
Specs
Volume 20.3oz / 600ml
Weight 5.7oz / 161.6g
Height 5.9” / 149mm
Diameter 4.2” / 106mm
Material hard anodized aluminum
 
NOTES
Performance
Petrel and Hornet 2 2-cups of water = 2mins 55secs
Petrel and FMS 116T 2-cups of water = 3 mins 30 secs
Will not work with BRS type stoves
Will work with most 3-arm pot stands

[@drytool]

It works fantastically with the Windmaster with Triflex pot support!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. Good to know. Thanks for commenting

[@almashburn1770]

For what it's worth, I boiled 2 cups of water with a Pocket Rocket Deluxe and the Petrel in 1 minute 58 seconds. Also sanded the lower rim of the lid so it wouldn't stick when it got hot.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Worth knowing and great tip on sanding down the lid. Thanks for commenting

[@ddff5242]

How does sanding it down make it not stick?

[@almashburn1770]

You have to sand the part that rubs on the cup inside. When the lid expands, that's where it sticks. As you sand it, you will feel a few little bumps that are causing it.

[@ddff5242]

@@almashburn1770 interesting. I just assumed that was due to the plastic ever so slightly melting that was causing it to stick.

[@ashab1]

Does the pocket rocket deluxe fit in the grooves or does it go on top and keep the larger gap?

[@hypo345]

Works very well with a SOTO Windmaster using the triflex pot stand. The Windmaster, and gas will fit inside the Petrel pot.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Good to have another option. Thanks for commenting

[@paulb6428]

I've used it with the brs 3000t and two cups to a boil under 2 min. Minor bend of the three tips though

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. Great tip and wow, fats boil time. Thanks for commenting

[@jtsyrja]

I have this pot and have used it with the hornet ll that comes with it. I also have BRS3000T and I did bend the three pot supports on that so that they are perpendicular from the center point and it works really well with the Petrel. I think the Hornet is bit better in wind, but BRS is smaller. I dont care how fast they boil, I care about how much they use gas so that I dont need to carry extra 200g of gas with me. BRS is quite good but Hornet is bit better. And if you dont open the valve fully on the hornet it will use even less gas because the pot will extract more of the heat and not so much escapes. BRS works the same when not fully open, but it is more vulnerable with wind. And I like to use a pan for bacon and fish and BRS is too small for that but Hornet holds pans too.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for sharing your experience

[@user-jf6jw6qu2n]

Love watching your shows , keep up the good work

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Much appreciated. Thanks for commenting

[@thedriftingspore]

Neat little pot for sure Mark. Thanks for sharing.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Most welcome. Thanks for commenting Steve

[@markmartello]

Nice review, thanks Mark.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting

[@tomd1914]

I use the Petrel with the Soto Windmaster, works extremely well, doesn’t need a windscreen, and is very easy to mount and remove. And while the Petrel is listed at 600ml, it actually holds 800ml. I also use a piece of a foil pan as a lid, as the Petrel lid weighs a full ounce and more importantly, it sticks when the water boils and becomes hazardous if you try to take it off right away. Really like the pot and your review!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I have heard from a few people about the lid sticking. I have not had that happen, yet. I tend to leave pot lids on at an angle to make it easier to get off. Thanks for commenting

[@derekneumann]

I have been thinking of getting one of these. I would be using it with a MSR Pocket Rocket 1 ..... looks like it would function fine. Pretty compact set up. Thanks Mark!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great pot but not sure if the pocket rocket will fit. Thanks for commenting

[@derekneumann]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Got one, works just fine with the original discontinued pocket rocket.

[@terryw.milburn8565]

Great Show & Tell Shared Here, Very Impressive ! Thanks For This Mark ! ATB T God Bless

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting Terry

[@unightie]

I couldn’t find it on their site. Great review. Too bad one comment said won’t fit pocket rocket. Thanks Mark.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Strange you couldn't find it. Unfortunate it won't fit the Pocket Rocket. Thanks for commenting

[@MichaelR58]

Good review Mark, thanks for sharing YAH bless !

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@redsorgum]

I like the size. The larger size of this similar style pot for me, is a little too big. This seems more practical for hiking, bike, or motorcycle camping.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

It is a really great size for one person. Thanks for commenting

[@hypo345]

Have you had the pot lid issue where it gets very tight when hot? I have found that after 30s of the heat being off it’s easy to lift the lid again, it can be lifted before that but care must be taken immediately after water has boiled as its tight and cauls cause a spill.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I have not had that issue yet. I can see if happening when taken off the heat as it could form a bit of a vacuum. I always hold the handle for stability when lifting the lid as well. Thanks for commenting

[@CJ-bb2gs]

I wish I knew about this before I bought a VERY VERY expensive Jet Boil.. Although I will say the Jet Boil is so good I threw away my electric kettle and bought a second Jet Boil..

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Jet Boil make great stuff but as you say, at a cost. Thanks for commenting

[@jimf1964]

I’m curious Mark. All those little fins have so little direct contact with the bottom of the pot. So I’m thinking it’s more to do with creating a super hot chamber, or ultra wind break. Usually heat sinks like that are more to do with dissipating heat from something they’re attached to by increasing its surface area. It could work in reverse, but as I said, there is more surface in the air than against the pot. Or is it more of a vent to let enough air in, but cut the wind?…….curious minds need to know! 🙂

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hi Jim. Good question as there is some debate on the efficacy of heat exchangers. The theory is that a pot so equipped will capture "excess heat" that would otherwise vent out the sides of the pot. Some of it is captured in the metal and transferred to the pot through conduction but as you say, there is not a great deal of metal on metal contact to make that happen. Mostly, the HE works by preventing flame leaking out from under the pot. Truth is, HE work best on small diameter pots like this one and less efficiently on large diameter pots where the flame spread may not reach the outside edge. There is also evidence that a HE works best when the flame is at its highest on the stove as the heat has to be sufficient to overcome the heat-sink effect the extra metal would otherwise create. The debate also asks if the extra weight and bulk of a HE equipped pots is worth it. I feel the work well on pots taller than wide like this one but only if matched to the right stove. Having said that, I did compare two similar volume and shape pots, one with HE and one without and got better efficiency but not so much better that the weight was worth it. Unless you count the fact that a windscreen (extra pack weight) is not usually needed with a HE equipped pot. Thanks for commenting

[@eyeofthetiger4184]

G'day Jim, great comment mate. I've always "assumed" its a bit of both those aspects you mentioned. Personally I've never bothered with these designs, since I'm quite happy with a regular pot ..... and time is of no consequence ; ) Though, if what ever the "true science" is behind these, can provide a worthwhile benefit, (in terms of a canister lasting "significantly" longer), I'd consider trying one out. Mind you, if/when the gas does run out, I also wonder how they'd hold up over a ground fire ; ) Hava good one. Cheers Duke.

[@jimf1964]

@@eyeofthetiger4184 yeah exactly. I get why someone would want one of these, but they seem a little too specific in how they’re used.

[@jimf1964]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yeah, so then is it any more efficient than a good wrap around heat screen? I really doubt it. Plus, as my Aussie friend mentioned in a reply, what if the canister runs out and you need a regular fire, or want to use a stick stove? These are fairly popular, but I think they’re a little gimmicky, or at least very specific in their use, and I loves a good flexible system 🙂

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

@@jimf1964 I agree they are very specific and can only be used effectively over a gas or alcohol stove. I do feel they are more efficient than a regular pot with windscreen and lighter than that combo as well. Still, they are not for everyone

[@lutzmix]

use it with the Hornet II stove😊 pocket rocket deluxe dont fit

[@unightie]

Too bad 😢

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Unfortunate about the pocket rocket. Thanks for commenting

[@fr.davidkuttner4034]

The pocket rocket deluxe will work with this pot... the fit isn't as precise as with the Soto windmaster and it takes a bit of finagling to get the PR deluxe to fit but I've used it on two trips and it works great...

[@unightie]

@@fr.davidkuttner4034 Hmm maybe I'll give it a try.Thanks!

[@lutzmix]

@@fr.davidkuttner4034 Yes, the cooker arms scrape slightly on the heat exchanger but it fits very well! kzbin.info58phkuWUiwo?si=oD6ANQVaDuuK39rI

[@highnoon420]

I'd like to see the performance with remote polaris, firemaple claim 1:27 to boil

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I don't know why I did not include that but will do that test. Thanks for commenting

[@highnoon420]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft you did say about not doing tests with a stove that's large... doesn't fit as a one pot system which makes sense, I'm interested because remote stoves are more stable

[@highnoon420]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft p.s thanks for taking time to make these videos, it's just about the right amount of information

[@TheRealShinto]

does it work with the pocket rocket deluxe and do they fit in?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I don't have a pocket rocket to try it with. Viewers have commented on the video that it does. Thanks for commenting

[@hi.kingharry]

what the lid made of?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Triton with a silicone grabber. Thanks for commenting

[@hi.kingharry]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft ready to checkout on my local marketplace. thanks for the review 👌💪

[@lutzmix]

you can change the lid to toaks 95mm lid

[@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397]

Somewhat too fiddly and also too small of a pot. The three little slots essentially make it a small pot 'system' companion for same company's Hornet stove. The three-slotted leg alignment routine would get old fast. Inefficiency and Alignment scenarios with other stove use would make it much less optimized for use with 'most' other small to micro stove setups. Boiling hot stuff and fiddling around "finessing" is a recipe for getting burned. JetBoil heat exchanger pot design remains the top dog with canister stove burners of this general type and output. As a stove and pot system, it remains a more well thought out overall product. I will wager also more efficient, stable, less fussy, and longer term reliable. 'For me' --- I would not purchase this small, three-slotted pot...unless, I was intending to compliment or have the burner it was idealy suited for. Let's say, I have a small 750 ml titanium pot and a small stove... this slotted pot would be the case of gearheaded solution to nonexistent problem ie. just buying anothet piece of gear. If the company gave me this system to review... as a guide and outfitter here in Alaska... I would place high attention to detail on how it compares under field conditions riverside with say something like my old Jetboil SOL (smaller volume Ti. sadly discontinued) and small to micro stoves using 600-750ml pots without heat exchangers. Back in the day... Innovative companies that would send out gear for testing review, would often want the equipment back at the end of testing to examine and review it for themselves. This gave a Hands-On approach to both the tester and the company. I have to wonder and ask does a company like fire maple send all this stuff out to KZbin reviewers and wish to see it back so they can look it over, or is it all an ad campaign? I'm not singling you or any other reviewer out, yet it seems the trend of how this company uses KZbinrs as advertising platform by routinely providing free stuff.

[@thomasmusso1147]

You don't like it or the channel then don't use or watch.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I believe the veracity of a review is related to the integrity of the reviewer

[@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Well said Mark. You and I have consistently enjoyed great, mutually respectful, relevant-content, well-founded talking points in your comment section. For the record, and maybe needing greater clarification... I enjoy your content, well thought out presentations, product review selections, and appreciate the work you put into your channel. I share my thoughts by adding/sharing relevant content perspective, information, and helpful dialog. I know you recognize this; while some will not. If the reply-guy to my comment had read/re-read, comprehending my original commentary... it translates to (majority overall) mutual agreement with your review assessments and my competitive options to consider. ie. Small/compact to micro stove & pot 'system' combo with regards to most optimal use scenarios.

[@ashab1]

This pot and one of these small stoves weigh a whole lot less than a jetboil, I can carry this pot a Polaris remote stove and fry pan for the same weight. This pot fits 3 stoves I already have the soto windmaster Polaris remote and the titanium firemaple FM116T, so compatibility isn’t an issue for me and I’m not clumsy so won’t be constantly scalding myself.