Firebird Review Six Flags America Former Apocalypse Roller Coaster

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@xcoasterenthusiast
@xcoasterenthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
During the next off-season, they should retrack Firebird so it's smoother! I also did get to experience Firebird and in my opinion, Its was way smoother!
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I just hope they get a frisbee this off season. That would be a perfect ride for them. SFA is probably the most underrated SF park.
@anonymous_preferred7737
@anonymous_preferred7737 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first ever B&M coaster, so I don’t think replacing the track isn’t the best idea. But then again, they put floorless trains on it so who knows.
@xcoasterenthusiast
@xcoasterenthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe for me, I wouldn't mind if they replace the entire track because I ridden it after it turned to Firebird, and I thought it was smooth as other B&Ms. But when it was Apocalypse, it was in my worst coasters list!
@thrillwarrior
@thrillwarrior 5 жыл бұрын
I can tell from the footage that Firebird is running with nylon wheels which make the ride not as smooth as when it runs polyurethane wheels. Maybe the it will be a bit smoother with polyurethane wheels 🙂✌️
@MCfilms13
@MCfilms13 5 жыл бұрын
Can't just switch out the wheels for smoothness, polyurethane absorbs more energy. That fact that they chose nylon wheels means that they may be risking valleying the trains with the polyurethane.
@MCfilms13
@MCfilms13 5 жыл бұрын
@@acceleratedcreative The lubrication in the wheel bearings becomes more viscous in the cold, which makes it run slower. That's why they need to compensate with the stiffer materials in the wheels to reduce energy losses.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
It isn’t even rough now. I hope they keep the nylon wheels on them.
@ailedriverarosado7905
@ailedriverarosado7905 4 жыл бұрын
for me is not smooth at all i bumped my head so hard i got a really bad headache after it and this was yesterday, NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
When it was Iron Wolf at Great America, it wasn't very remarkable once you got past the novelty of it being a stand up coaster.
@bjtgaming
@bjtgaming 5 жыл бұрын
bro I'm going to defend stand up coasters here. The reason why stand-up coasters get such a bad rap is because most of them are more than 20 plus years old. The Last Stand Up roller coaster, the Georgia scorcher, was built in 1999. The last two stand-up roller coasters ever built really aren't that bad, could you imagine what it would be like if we built stand up roller coasters today! there wouldn't be any issues with roughness or being uncomfortable whatsoever with the technology we have now! this is a very cool type of roller coaster model that doesn't deserve to die the way it is. And now these floorless conversions are showing the real truth, it isn't stand up trains that are bad, it's the actual coaster that they're riding on. that is my defense of stand-up coasters........
@spentron1
@spentron1 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't think B&M understood the standup genre. Better quality track and layout for a regular coaster plus standup trains does not equal a good ride. TOGO standups were relatively crude ('80s) and hurt about 5% more but felt 10x as much as if they were trying to kill you. B&M ought to do a conversion of one of their airtime machines to standup with vest restraints, that might be decent.
@Aaron.Rants.Reviews
@Aaron.Rants.Reviews 5 жыл бұрын
I really like The Riddler's Revenge at Magic Mountain and I hope that they don't ever retro fit it with *floorless cars, especially with Scream right across the way
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on this. I definitely enjoyed Georgia Scorcher & Riddler's Revenge (SFMM). Mantis was also very good. I think Mantis was a far better ride than Rougarou. They better not ever convert Riddler or Scorcher. Vortex at Carowinds might be a good one for them to try just converting the restraints to vest restraints, to eliminate headbanging, but keep it as a stand-up, and see how that works.
@spentron1
@spentron1 5 жыл бұрын
IRfan: I doubt B&M would do vest restraints now, just seems that would have been a better way to go. Headbanging needs to be impossible. I only find the "seats" awkward not painful, speaking of which, Apocalypse. Even switching to B&M's newer standup restraints would have helped, so clunky. I think standups could have a future not going upside down, freeing the restraint design. But Re: bjt, yeah the coasters themselves aren't that good, especially B&Ms are just extra mild looping/turn coasters you stand up on. Togo was a less advanced maker but at least your feet came off the floor.
@bjtgaming
@bjtgaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@spentron1 well at least someone spelled my name right
@2kthrills168
@2kthrills168 5 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion............. I actually really liked this ride. Had some good airtime momenta, especially off the midcourse. The back is by far the best seat though. For me it ranks fourth in the park
@spencerthompson6419
@spencerthompson6419 5 жыл бұрын
when i went to the firebird soft opening the sfa park prez said an rmc Raptor was "on our radar." also loved Firebird, it was great
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ask him about it or did he just bring that up randomly?
@spencerthompson6419
@spencerthompson6419 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel i asked
@theunknown0887
@theunknown0887 5 жыл бұрын
A raptor? Cool
@theunknown0887
@theunknown0887 5 жыл бұрын
It will fix their coaster gap they went 18 years without a original ground up coaster and the last one was batwing and that’s biting the dust soon if maintenance gets worse
@lessardo87
@lessardo87 5 жыл бұрын
the mid course brake run is by far the best part about this ride lol there's no brakes on it
@samb3435
@samb3435 5 жыл бұрын
Before you get all mad about him being pessimistic about a coaster that you’ve enjoyed, just remember how he’s been on somewhere around 500 roller coasters all over the world. He’s ridden the best of the best, so it makes sense that he’s tough on some coasters that we hardly ever get to ride. Personally, I disagree with some of the points he brought up, but I had to take this into consideration. Thanks Taylor for the video, dropped a like.
@michaelmfmills
@michaelmfmills 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up riding this as Iron Wolf. It was always so painful and never worth the time. Thank god we got Goliath in its place.
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Mills At one point Great America had three better B&M coasters than Iron Wolf: Batman: The Ride, Raging Bull and Superman: Ultimate Flight
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
Four. I forgot X-Flight
@michaelmfmills
@michaelmfmills 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Fangman They removed Iron Wolf to build Goliath in its place. Every coaster in the park was better than Iron Wolf, B&M or not.
@grimgrowlithe6111
@grimgrowlithe6111 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, a better version of an old ride. I prefer this one, hated apocalypse.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Sonderax
@Sonderax 5 жыл бұрын
Im gonna go out there as its the first EVER B&M and i fricking love B&M. ring from the UK tho its gonna be a while
@SupermarketSweep777
@SupermarketSweep777 5 жыл бұрын
Since the park is in Maryland, you might as well wait until at least next year, then come over and hit this and the new B&M Hyper at Hersheypark. (Plus Hersheypark's suspended B&M Great Bear)
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Smart move, or come both years lol.
@justincui
@justincui 5 жыл бұрын
Damn. We had a school trip to the DC area last month and a day at SFA was in our itinerary. Boy did we go too early because that was a couple of weeks before Firebird opened
@steveg5122
@steveg5122 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if B&M coasters hate being relocated. The tolerances might be too tight for relocation.
@sabellcarstens6896
@sabellcarstens6896 4 ай бұрын
Rip 🪦 Holiday in the park at Six Flags America (2016-2021)😢 Going to buy king’s dominion season pass! I hope Six Flags America will *”PERMANENTLY”* close!
@KingTito-mg8bn
@KingTito-mg8bn 3 ай бұрын
Bro six flags america is so screwed
@thrillsparks9573
@thrillsparks9573 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a ride op for firebird and I think it’s not glass smooth but it’s a hell of a lot better then apoc and the front was rougher then the back by far
@radioguy1667
@radioguy1667 5 жыл бұрын
*AYY, PLAY FIREBIRD!*
@limesoda9167
@limesoda9167 5 жыл бұрын
Never been on Apocalypse, but I've been on Riddler's Revenge and I actually really like stand-ups. Of course Riddler's Revenge actually is a really great B&M, probably one of the best they have ever made, but I don't think the stand-up trains take away from the ride. I actually really enjoy it because all you have to do is squat a little bit before they lock the seats and then the bar won't be touching you at all. Beyond that, the stand-up factor of the ride is really thrilling and cool in my opinion. I don't like it more than sit-down, but there are so many that it's a really nice change for me.
@MrBmac-md2rv
@MrBmac-md2rv 5 жыл бұрын
That one dislike is Six Flags America.
@normb9948
@normb9948 5 жыл бұрын
Few more than 1 ..lol
@howtoplayeverything5802
@howtoplayeverything5802 5 жыл бұрын
21 dislikes
@h3nryy_xyz
@h3nryy_xyz Жыл бұрын
Firebird should get a retrack with new track, inversions.
@therealx6
@therealx6 5 жыл бұрын
thats cool i kinda want to ride this
@InfiniteCS
@InfiniteCS 5 жыл бұрын
Rode this when it was Iron Wolf, have not been on it since, as my nostalgia may blind me I can't deny this looks pretty good.
@nohaybanda3061
@nohaybanda3061 5 жыл бұрын
1 credit. Whether you rode it in Gurnee or SfA it should only count once
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 5 жыл бұрын
You know what I'm amazed at? It was actually open for opening day. I know it's only putting new trains on, paint, and some mechanical work, not building a new coaster, but cmon it's six flags, this is an accomplishment for them!
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
it actually hasn't even officially opened to the public yet! I rode it when it opened for members only.
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 5 жыл бұрын
I knew was giving them too much credit! Lol
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Still, it is open before Memorial Day weekend. That is great!
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 5 жыл бұрын
If it doesn't have a ton of headbanging I would ride it because I love B&M FLOORLESS coasters!!!
@Zatoka.
@Zatoka. 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's reeeally good for a first coaster. Head banging has never really bothered me, so I personally think this is a fun little coaster.
@jtbackup4553
@jtbackup4553 5 жыл бұрын
Hey CS, great video!! I have a bunch of trips planned for this summer, in June I’m going to Six Flags Great America, in July I’m going to Magic Mountain and in September, going to Universal Orlando. If you’re ever going to these parks this summer let me know so I can maybe meet you!
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
J Terry TV I'm going to Great America sometime in July. I work at Jewel-Osco which is the large grocery store chain in the Chicago area. Jewel has been a long time partner with Great America (since it was Mariott's Great America), selling discount admission tickets. I can buy tickets for the Jewel-Osco associate days, good between July 6th-21st, for over half off the gate plus free parking (another $25 savings).
@jtbackup4553
@jtbackup4553 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Fangman Nice!
@danielstephens1180
@danielstephens1180 5 жыл бұрын
What if Vortex at Carowinds is converted into a floor less coaster and picks up the apocalypse theme
@sideeswipe
@sideeswipe 5 жыл бұрын
They need to add boomerangs and stand up coasters to the endangered species list cause they're dying by the year
@infamousplrr
@infamousplrr 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan who tf cares about boomerangs
@sideeswipe
@sideeswipe 5 жыл бұрын
infamousplrr I never said I care about either of them, chill out
@ObbyTheBird
@ObbyTheBird 5 жыл бұрын
@@infamousplrr A wonderful set of changes.
@djradiation6407
@djradiation6407 5 жыл бұрын
Theres like 55 boomerang left
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
Boomerangs dying? Vekoma still builds boomerangs and there are almost 60 of them world wide.
@haydenbuell7860
@haydenbuell7860 5 жыл бұрын
Does wild one still go through a tunnel?
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a short one
@AndrewsOpinion15
@AndrewsOpinion15 2 жыл бұрын
nice firebird roller coaster review at six flags america !!!!
@myadventure9431
@myadventure9431 4 жыл бұрын
They should do this to green lantern at Six Flags Great Adventure
@ThrillsofColdplay
@ThrillsofColdplay 4 жыл бұрын
It should be a Sitdown not a Floorless
@FrenchyHalloween
@FrenchyHalloween 5 жыл бұрын
The one ride I don't go on at Six Flags Great Adventure in NJ is the Green Lantern because it is a B&M standup coaster and it is insanely rough and a head banger. Do you think they will transition that coaster to a floorless train as well? It could use a new paint job soon anyway. It would be sad to go because a stand up coaster is a cool attraction to have in a park. But I think stand up coasters had their time with popularity and now we need to move on.
@lucianoalonso4389
@lucianoalonso4389 5 жыл бұрын
Bizarro is already a floorless coaster, but maybe they can do it with those sit down trains like Kumba at Bush Gardens Tampa. A new green paint job can be needed too.
@oneandonlysound3453
@oneandonlysound3453 5 жыл бұрын
In all honesty if given the choice I'd rather see it removed and put at a six flags park that could use it (and made floorless there). Get replaced with a ground up B&M wing or better yet something like Steel Curtain. However if it's there to stay yes, should definitely be made into a sit down. Stand up seating is just horrible. It may not fix the headbanging (honestly don't care that much, I loved great american scream machine which it replaced and it had plenty of that) but the fact I could ride it without my whole middle torso being destroyed would be nice. @@lucianoalonso4389
@matthewmiller7207
@matthewmiller7207 5 жыл бұрын
OneAndOnlySound A Steel Curtain-like coaster in that spot sounds interesting. Maybe that could be a worthy successor to the great Arrow beast that once stood there, unlike Green Lantern.
@oneandonlysound3453
@oneandonlysound3453 5 жыл бұрын
your exactly right. If S&S Steel Curtain works out to be the new steel coaster of the next generation built with well, not B&M and not RMC, then it'd make a perfect fit in both style and design. They could even duplicate some of the old design but taller, faster, and more inversions. Great American Scream Machine literally could've been made better with new trains and some re-profiling and it was still popular, Green Lantern was a totally useless addition let alone a replacement for the park's eye candy icon. @@matthewmiller7207
@ThrillsofColdplay
@ThrillsofColdplay 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I’ve heard many negative stuff about this coaster I still want to try it
@AirtimeThrills
@AirtimeThrills 5 жыл бұрын
This is the only B&M I havent ridden in the US and I was there last month to look at it. At least the 1 I'm missing isnt very good
@Kay-qq8eo
@Kay-qq8eo 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so sad. Apocalypse was my favorite :( love the stand up coasters
@ZeroCreditsRemaining
@ZeroCreditsRemaining 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest fan of vest restraints, but I feel like this and Rougarou should have gotten vest restraints. :/
@asherraymond4430
@asherraymond4430 5 жыл бұрын
I low-key can't breathe in the vest restraints, like waiting on the break run is the worst with vest restraints.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
They can’t do that since those trains are wider.
@ZeroCreditsRemaining
@ZeroCreditsRemaining 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel Even three across seating or two across would be fine BUT it's not like I know the physics of that either. If vests were possible in any way at all, it would be preferable.
@ZeroCreditsRemaining
@ZeroCreditsRemaining 5 жыл бұрын
@@asherraymond4430 I agree, IIRC it's worse on some coasters than others though. On Banshee it felt really tight, but on Valravn it might feel a little better unless I'm crazy. The ones on Gatekeeper specifically left pretty big bruises on my shoulders.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
Rougarou is not that bad however the back on that ride should be avoided at all costs. IMO the back is WAY rougher and violent than the front
@BlueVapor-hv4kl
@BlueVapor-hv4kl 5 ай бұрын
I went to Six Flags America yesterday I was kind of scared of roller coasters but I got on Firebird and I actually enjoyed it it was rough because it was shaking but I really liked it since it wasn't that intense and it was actually enjoyable for my first rollercoaster, especially with a loop after that I went on it 3 times since it was fun but I would really like to go on something a little more intense one day
@kaydub0623
@kaydub0623 5 жыл бұрын
let's be honest tho it's one of those rides that may not be that good but look fantastic
@aneeshmonkeyfilms6440
@aneeshmonkeyfilms6440 5 жыл бұрын
From what you’ve said I’m not as sad I wasn’t able to ride it when I was there last weekend
@jimsmith9545
@jimsmith9545 5 жыл бұрын
So what's the big announcement for Six Flags America next year, a new paint job on Mind Eraser and a new name for it or maybe a few new effects for the lazy river.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
That honestly would be fine. Those two things are much needed. I personally think they are adding a large flat ride in the old Dare Devil Dive Spot.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest a new theme and new trains for ME wouldn't be a bad addition. After SFNE did that with their SLC it actually became a decent ride.
@falloutfan6649
@falloutfan6649 4 жыл бұрын
I have one reason that I think this is worth riding regardless of the experience: Being able to add the first B&M ever built to your credit list
@Calakapepe
@Calakapepe 5 жыл бұрын
The colors are now one of the standard B&M track colors from RCT :p
@GuyT-z7o
@GuyT-z7o 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment without having been on this particular coaster in either form. Rougaru only sucks slightly less than Mantis. It was a nice try but it’s a crappy head bangy mostly uninspiring layout. Vests would have been the real game changer for the experience. I digress
@linglob8753
@linglob8753 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the new coasters coming to Six Flags... I didn’t know that they were JUST getting new trains! Wow! Good job Six Flags! 😂🤣
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
CF has done it with two of their coasters already so...
@javierguzman1074
@javierguzman1074 5 жыл бұрын
That’s Six Flags America for you.
@highoctanegames
@highoctanegames 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really want to ride this so bad, I actually want to ride this more than Diamondback and Orion at Kings Island
@brokencoasters1342
@brokencoasters1342 5 жыл бұрын
I freaking love stand ups because they r so intense, well, I’ve only ridden green lantern, which I almost like more than ALL of the floorless I’ve bee on
@Stagnant_Gravy
@Stagnant_Gravy 5 жыл бұрын
Koaster Krazy I’ve been on two B&M stand ups, Green Lantern and Vortex at Carowinds. Green Lantern is way better. Vortex needs demolished as it’s the same story as Firebird. Green Lantern can stay as is because Bizarro exists.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
LOL you are biased GL along with Riddler and GS are the better stand ups because after Mantis B&M finally figured out how to make them somewhat smooth. I have ridden GL, Mantis, Shockwave, and La Cobra and GL is the ONLY one I find to be decent. Mantis sucked and I'm glad it's a floorless now, La Cobra was one of the shittiest coasters I've been on and Shockwave was painful to my man bits (airtime on a stand up? What the hell were the Japanese thinking)
@adazinventionz3171
@adazinventionz3171 5 жыл бұрын
Is it in a soft opening phase? The website says this is not open, and Screamscape says it’s going to open on May 17.
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
It was open to members this past weekend.
@danielworleyyy
@danielworleyyy 5 жыл бұрын
I think I’m in the very small minority of those who love B&M stand ups.
@Kay-qq8eo
@Kay-qq8eo 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Worley I miss apocalypse sm :(
@Kay-qq8eo
@Kay-qq8eo 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Worley stand ups are so fun
@ncjolly146
@ncjolly146 5 жыл бұрын
When are you gonna ride Yukon striker
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Fanatics eastJOllygamertuBer later this month
@adrenalinerush5862
@adrenalinerush5862 5 жыл бұрын
Coaster Studios Do you know the date yet? Hopefully I can meet you there!
@gusgarrett1891
@gusgarrett1891 5 жыл бұрын
is this a new credit or not if i’ve ridden apocalypse
@blunderr6113
@blunderr6113 5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the person, as some people say it's not a *new* ride, but, as I and most people would say, yes, it counts.
@adrenalinerush5862
@adrenalinerush5862 5 жыл бұрын
It is a new credit.
@normb9948
@normb9948 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, new credit. The original coaster experience has changed with the new trains.
@RebeccaR-1983
@RebeccaR-1983 5 жыл бұрын
I rode it when it was the iron Wolf. I have rode it as Fire Bird. When it was the Iron Wolf it was a headache maker! like one of the worst coasters I've ever rode. As the Fire Bird I like it a lot better now that we're sitting down. I rode it twice when I went to Six Flags America on 7/27/19 for my first time. I didn't get a headache or any body pain. I thought it seem smoother and more enjoyable to ride compared to how was back when it was the Iron Wolf.
@gadgefan48
@gadgefan48 5 жыл бұрын
Yikes. I am planning to go there soon since it is technically my home park (though I frequent Hersheypark a LOT more) so I'll see for myself. But sure sounds like it won't be much better. Granted as a tall guy I will gladly prefer this over stand up which was unbearable. With that said, comparing this to Dominator at KD, Bizarro at SFGA and Hydra at DP, this coaster is not going to stand up well with any of those floorless B&M coasters in this region.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t compare it to those! They are much larger rides. This is still a solid coaster that is worth a stop by for.
@DoubleARay
@DoubleARay 5 жыл бұрын
Does this have the vest restraints like swarm or Valraven or the old plastic/rubber ones
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
It has the traditional over the shoulder restraints.
@DoubleARay
@DoubleARay 5 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterStudios oh thanks
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Conversions cannot be changed to vest restraints.
@bryanterry1111
@bryanterry1111 5 жыл бұрын
Dang that coaster will be 30 years old next year
@supercobraz2788
@supercobraz2788 4 жыл бұрын
Do a review on scream and Medusa at both Discovery kingdom and magic mountain
@xmonkeyballer634
@xmonkeyballer634 3 ай бұрын
I have and I enjoyed it
@austinbarnes4211
@austinbarnes4211 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they converted this ride into a floorless coaster, they're way better than stand-ups
@tobiasj2455
@tobiasj2455 5 жыл бұрын
Love your content man. You do a great job!! What is your feelings on the info unearthed yesterday regarding KI and their new potential attraction. Would love to hear what you think.
@brodiemacleod69
@brodiemacleod69 5 жыл бұрын
When are you going to ride Yukon StrikR?
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Later this month
@TheHaloreach234
@TheHaloreach234 5 жыл бұрын
Sixflags magic mountain still has a stand up coaster and it’s great
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 5 жыл бұрын
What rows did you ride? Some people have said that the back rows are smoother
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
JG-77 I rode back left and front right
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Front is bad, back is good.
@lucianoalonso4389
@lucianoalonso4389 5 жыл бұрын
Do you count it as a new credit?
@CoolioJoe100
@CoolioJoe100 5 жыл бұрын
No. It's the same coaster, just different trains.
@visionist7
@visionist7 5 жыл бұрын
I think it counts as a new credit
@adrenalinerush5862
@adrenalinerush5862 5 жыл бұрын
It does count as a new credit.
@CoolioJoe100
@CoolioJoe100 5 жыл бұрын
@@adrenalinerush5862 The fact that you're sitting instead of standing doesn't make it a new, completely independent roller coaster from its former self. If it's not a separate page on RCDB (which it isn't), it's not a new credit.
@Chrisg11593
@Chrisg11593 4 жыл бұрын
To quote the guy talking about super mans helixes “uh it was ok”
@Terrapins360
@Terrapins360 5 жыл бұрын
this park in general just needs a major update. The upkeep of this park is terrible. Some of the rides are just never open or close all the time, such as batwing and jokers jinx. The only really great ride at this park is superman and even then intimidator 305 is really close by. Mind Eraser is still the worst rollercoaster ive ever been on. While I do think that apocalypse needed to be upgraded, the main problem with this ride was that the track layout is just not exciting. I've been to this park a lot since I live close to the park and every time I go my opinion gets more negative. The main positives of this park is that there are never any lines and the waterpark is actually pretty great. Six flags seriously needs to take a second look at this park.
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
Ross Tanenbaum They use it as a dumping ground for attractions from other Six Flags parks. If the rumors are true, Vertical Velocity from Great America is going to be relocated there in the next few years too.
@ItsSiebay
@ItsSiebay 5 жыл бұрын
That rumor was debunked, and hopefully the same will go for the 4D. I love my home park, but if I had to say it, don't go in wanting a thrilling experience. Just go in with the thought of trying to kill some time, because that's really all that it has been since 2006. Six Flags isn't gonna do anything for this park besides keep it around average quality, but honestly that's better than nothing.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I love this park. It is in perfectly fine condition.
@aircraftsandtrains2309
@aircraftsandtrains2309 3 жыл бұрын
only one left that i ride is the vortex at carowinds
@Jason_Maier
@Jason_Maier 5 жыл бұрын
Taylor, out of the remaining Standup Coasters in the US (Vortex - Carowinds; Green Lantern - Great Adventure; Riddler's Revenge - Magic Mountain; Georgia Scorcher - SF Over Georgia); I say GL and RR stay as they are because there's already floorless coasters at their respective parks. GS is actually decent from what I've read; Vortex is BAD (from what I've read)
@alexbrewster1923
@alexbrewster1923 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Maier GS is a really fun ride. Definitely dont mind standing up on it
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with this, GL isn't that bad at least compared to the other stand ups I've been on (Shockwave, La Cobra, and Mantis)
@samd3024
@samd3024 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like they could've just left the old theming, cause it seems like it would be semi-appropriate. Also, I hope that they leave some stand-ups alone just so they don't go extinct. Like what SFOG did with Georgia Scorcher.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 5 жыл бұрын
Georgia Scorcher is one of the very good stand-ups honestly. Very smooth, so no problem with that ride.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
GS, GL, and Riddler are decent rides. Really the only B&M stand up left that sucks is Vortex at Carowinds
@samd3024
@samd3024 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv yeah I rode vortex a few weeks ago and it's pretty rough for especially the corkscrew
@sairvinginthestacks
@sairvinginthestacks 5 жыл бұрын
It was rough and un-ejoyable as Iron Wolf too.
@racchudson2812
@racchudson2812 5 жыл бұрын
considering your typical large steel coaster hardly makes it thirty years without being scrapped, whether or not they were the first creation of their manufacturer, I'm gonna say Iron Wolf has matured remarkably gracefully. How has Volcano: The Blast Coaster aged?
@RockyandTuck
@RockyandTuck 5 жыл бұрын
Racc Hudson It died
@racchudson2812
@racchudson2812 5 жыл бұрын
@@RockyandTuck slight rattle versus death rattle
@JerseyDevils21
@JerseyDevils21 5 жыл бұрын
I hope green lantern at six flags great adventure gets converted into a b&m sit down since we already have a floorless b&m
@superluigi8362
@superluigi8362 5 жыл бұрын
B&M dosent make Sit-down coasters anymore and Floorless basicaly just killed Them.
@frontrowviews
@frontrowviews 5 жыл бұрын
Six flags: *adds light theming* Americans: OMG SO MUCH THEMING Europeans: Wait what?! You call that theming??!!
@STRIDER19762
@STRIDER19762 5 жыл бұрын
they need to do this to green lanter
@troypinkney7900
@troypinkney7900 4 ай бұрын
Weather, they changed it from a standup to a sit down coaster. ( It's still terrible the track is to tight) can you say headache
@nitropsychotube3463
@nitropsychotube3463 4 жыл бұрын
You should review Patriot at California’s great America
@Booster388
@Booster388 5 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but I knew it there was not going to be a in improvement with the floor less trains it sucks cuz I love B&M and I was excited that my home park got a B&M and when I was apocalypse I got a chance to ride it
@Stephenp503
@Stephenp503 5 жыл бұрын
Say what you want, but the colors are really cool.
@jimmykirkland5377
@jimmykirkland5377 5 жыл бұрын
Firebird Replaced Into Apocalypse & Skull Mountain & Z Force Replaced Into Goliath kzbin.info/www/bejne/apLVnoyfqqqIp9E
@MIKEYPOOHBEARJACKSON
@MIKEYPOOHBEARJACKSON 5 жыл бұрын
This is my home park, Six Flags America just need to build a coaster instead of buying another used coaster. Most of the rides there are from the 90's and early 2000s I was little disappointed in this, but its whatever. As long as we get rid of the stand up portion.
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t be disappointed, this was a much needed addition. Another addition that is needed is an update on Mind Eraser.
@sayblacc1596
@sayblacc1596 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone talking bout head banging, my head never banged at all on firebird or shakiness
@crimson_defender6341
@crimson_defender6341 5 жыл бұрын
Firebird coaster parody anyone?
@travilicious
@travilicious 4 жыл бұрын
I rode it many times as Iron Wolf at SFGA. It was the worst head banger I've ever experienced. Like, serious headaches that wouldn't go away.
@Kevin-yh7ph
@Kevin-yh7ph 5 жыл бұрын
I was to little to ride iron wolf when it was at my home park six flags great America, cuz I was a short kid :/
@0z3r0
@0z3r0 5 жыл бұрын
at least it looks good
@matthewmiller7207
@matthewmiller7207 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it looked cooler when it was grey & orange instead of orange & grey.
@maverick114e9
@maverick114e9 5 жыл бұрын
I'm About To Ride I305 In Less Than 2 Weeks, Cant Really Make It This Season To Ride That
@drewgeyerr
@drewgeyerr 5 жыл бұрын
Maverick114 E I305 is my fav keep the restraints really loose in the back row and on the drop you are literally being flipped over yourself it’s so fun
@maverick114e9
@maverick114e9 5 жыл бұрын
Ok Cool. I Feel Legitiamatley Scared At That Thing Not Gonna Lie
@drewgeyerr
@drewgeyerr 5 жыл бұрын
Maverick114 E it’s not scary but also keep the restraints loose backseat the g force can nail your thighs
@drewgeyerr
@drewgeyerr 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Hugh yea but maverick is not as intense but has a stronger layout
@northernthrills2563
@northernthrills2563 5 жыл бұрын
So they put vest restraints on coasters that never need them, like dive coasters, but they put regular restraints on the coasters that need vests restraints most...
@jlp7972
@jlp7972 5 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh, it wasn't that great. Pretty disappointing, actually. I had my hopes up after how much I enjoyed Rougarou at Cedar Point. But I guess the whole conversion thing doesn't work out for *every* coaster.
@ethandufresne2272
@ethandufresne2272 5 жыл бұрын
Dorky McDorkface still wish I had a chance to ride mantis
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
@@ethandufresne2272 No you don't, Mantis SUCKED Rougarou is a massive improvement. As Rougarou Mantis went from a coaster I almost never rode to one I'd ride multiple times a day (usually in the middle of the day when the lines from the main attractions are long)
@coastervelocity3899
@coastervelocity3899 4 жыл бұрын
I think I just rode Rougarou on a bad day, because it was incredibly rough and shaky.
@gplez91
@gplez91 5 жыл бұрын
Shoulda gotten a B&.... oh wait...
@godisg1
@godisg1 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think that the other conversation were a better job?
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel
@ThemeParkOverLoadChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Patriot is worse. Firebird has a faster pace and a more interesting layout.
@urbex_coasters
@urbex_coasters 4 жыл бұрын
I rode Apocalypse in it's final season as a stand up. I didn't think it was that bad compared to what I was expecting. I was expecting it to turn my legs to jelly like Green Lanturn did. Was it a headbanger? Yes. Was it the worst headbanger in the park? Hell no.
@deadaccountguys
@deadaccountguys 3 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse was short lived.. damn.
@joelchi2529
@joelchi2529 5 жыл бұрын
So is it a new credit
@ValleyThrills
@ValleyThrills 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Chi No
@adrenalinerush5862
@adrenalinerush5862 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Chi Yes
@gadgefan48
@gadgefan48 5 жыл бұрын
There is a very bad hangbanging moment on this coaster right before the fake out mid course break run and man did that HURT. For a B&M coaster it should not be that rough and that much of a headbanger. Ouch.
@TGrrr89
@TGrrr89 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, not enough to convince me to go back after last year's CoasterCon.
@eniade3715
@eniade3715 3 жыл бұрын
This is my home park 😊 but you know I like this but I miss the themeing and it kinda rough not to much but a bit
@mildbuffalosauce6199
@mildbuffalosauce6199 5 жыл бұрын
It’s six flags America.. it doesn’t need seven rows...Also this was my first looping coaster so form,e it was really intense and I still love it :)
@ev7d167
@ev7d167 5 жыл бұрын
should have kept the theme but should have named it Apocalypse: Aftermath
@Jeff321
@Jeff321 5 жыл бұрын
I rode it when it was Iron Wolf. It was horrible. So uncomfortable. A sit-down would certainly make it better. That is unfortunate to hear it's still rough/shaky though.
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff3210 Its replacement at Great America, Goliath, is much better.
@Jeff321
@Jeff321 5 жыл бұрын
@@mdf3530 Yeah Goliath is awesome.
@AlphaCoasters
@AlphaCoasters 3 жыл бұрын
this should get the vest restraint treatment
@devenpawar9511
@devenpawar9511 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a top floorless coasters you’ve ridden?
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