Firebird's Stealth Play Is Extremely Effective & Fun | Unleash The Bird's Fury | SC Gameplay 4K

[@flinx58]

"People say that pushing this button does nothing... but when I push it I feel good, so Im doing that" LOL

[@Korvorkian1]

I'm pretty sure that's how I feel about the game in general lol

[@j0k1g]

That button messes with component power and adds heat, or has in the past.. The -20% reduction on top of the emmission values, I dont think is accurate - think its already been taken into account.. but if its been tested, thats neat. As for computers all being equalized to 1.0x targets highest emissions = range, again, neat, though in the past s1 was like 0.75x, s2 was 1.0, s3 was like 1.25x ... so not sure if thats changed or not.

[@Syphirioth]

@@j0k1g The game actually give tips and hints about it. I think they say the button works now. First didnt do much indeed but just generate heat.

[@PhDeimos]

because of this, i follow :D

[@snowmind]

One of the best SC videos I've seen in a long time! Keep up the energy and enthusiasm.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you!

[@ictr3ma255]

whats best about it? where in the video he put a second person with stealth components, and checked the range for its appearing with scan? then the same with military components? instead he asks for comments, which of course are more reliable information source than testing.

[@Avean]

Was about to comment the same, this is definetely one of the best videos ive seen. Subscribed easily :)

[@TerribleP]

I fucking love the passion behind that '6 missile armed, FIRE. TRACKING. NIIIIICE!' This guy gets it.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you!

[@oldman1111]

RED firebird. NIce! I had a buddy who owned a 1990 Pontiac Firebird. That color looks sick.

[@kazer4040]

Love the video style of testing things and showing the results. Really cool seeing a realistic use and test of the new ship.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Appreciated!

[@Xaveth]

Ramming Bird!!! 🤣 Another awesome video by Cpt_Foxyloxy!

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

lol... Thank you

[@res1i3js]

It’s been years since I’ve tested stealth, so please forgive me if things have changed. Cross section only comes into play if your ship has its broad side exposed to your enemy. If your nose is pointed directly at them, then your cross section is effectively 0. This is very important for the Eclipse but doesn’t seem to mean much for that Firebird because your IR is very close to your cross section value. Again, maybe things have changed, your cross section seems a lot smaller than what I remember it usually is for that ship size. EDIT: Okay, yeah. Just logged in and looked at my Eclipse and my CS is about the same as my IR and EM, so it looks like it's changed. CS used to be like 15,000. So, it'll be much harder to test if CS still works the same.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you very much for the Cross section details.

[@undeadpeak]

Cross section still takes into effect its one of the reasons why people hate cs missiles a lot, as they effectively can lose lock if the enemy turns the right way.

[@jwonyoutube]

@@undeadpeaklast I saw, cs missiles were still the most effective because ship direction didn’t affect cs sig (maybe it did in the past) so it was the most guaranteed way to keep missiles locked on target

[@anthonyclare6750]

The cross Section value shown is the highest of the 3 cross section values that make up a ship. In the case of the firebird it is when veiwed from the side. When viewed from the front its CS is 808. So in the case where the EM is highest, dropping shields WILL help with detection.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

good to know, thank you

[@NozomuYume]

The Stealth button on power MFD does set the limiter lower. This USED to be effective when you would reorder priority using the arrow buttons on the ITEMS tab in the power MFD. The arrows raised/lowered the priority of components. Then if you went over the limit, it would give power preferentially to the things with higher priority. So for instance it would charge your shields before your guns to keep your total power usage down. This all got destroyed in 3.14 when they moved to magic capacitors and decided to make the power triangle a minigame instead of managing the power simulation.

[@UAF_ViVi]

Love the rogue-ish feel of the Firebird's stealth capabilities. Just picked up one myself (RIP wallet) and having so much fun with the zoom by and then turning back to melt faces with 6 missiles. I suck at general dogfighting so I think this is the perfect ship for me. Thanks for explaining how everything works.

[@themando-smith]

And now imagine a squadron of firebirds. That'd be a hell of a strikeforce

[@JBoomerOfficial]

I appreciate you taking the time to figure this ship out instead of jumping on the hate train like a lot of people. This game needs more ships that fit these very unique situations. I may have to try that tonight :)

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you! yeah, sometimes we are too quick to judge a ship, but this one is surely not that bad, not bad at all.

[@Luidgi509]

This guy is my hero. Tracking booomm hahah. then come the brrt brrt ...Keep it up man and dont forget to bring the wife to invictus o7

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you! o7

[@j0k1g]

In 3.22, if you full scan the target, you can subcomponent target. In the past, 3.20, you could then dump missiles and focus that component down - Top Right Engine for example.. on a Connie that takes its shield with it when the location dies. Things to test in 3.23. Finally, why "EM missiles are best" Its not about lock range, lock time, speed or damage. Its about Explosion Radius. Taskforce1's are stupid with a splash RADIUS of 14m. They do limited damage, ect ect ect so they arent lethal, but when you look at component Hp vs explosion radius vs damage.. thats where s4's, doing ~4000d, in a 9m radius, when s1-2 components only have about 3k hp, are scary. That said, very few ships can boat s4's, unlike s3 or s1's. S3's (tbolts) are fairly effective, radius of ~4m, and a little over 3000damage. S2's arent ideal, even thought they are one of the most easy sizes to boat, because their radius is again around 2-3m, but their damage is sub 3k. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you for sharing these useful info about missiles, rarely touched S4 missiles, looks like it is time to test them!

[@teambattleground9076]

Very good video and I don't mind ships like this that look cool and fit a niche I think that's what the game needs is more niche ships like this because it's fun to run with a group and play the outside and swoop in and launch missiles then fly out

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Exactly, it fits a certain niche

[@RYCOPZ]

This is excellent. Exactly how the ship should be used. I also spent about a full day playing with mine to arrive at the same setup & tactics. :))))

[@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh]

So you've arrived to being useless.

[@sphinxoforion7422]

Great vid Foxy, one suggestion I have, is to put the quarrelers or M5As on BUT turn them off until you get into fighting. That way to keep the great damage of laser cannons, whilst also maintaining stealth.

[@Weevil-Knievel1134]

This ship handles like a dream with awesome sound effects. Good to know stealth doesn’t work right. I’ll stop putting my ships at a disadvantage then lol.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Indeed, she flies like a dream

[@machoalright]

some exellent use of your ship! didnt expect that

[@damaddmann]

Your content is super amazing thank you for all that you do

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

thx

[@mostlyshenanigans]

For full stealth, you unequip guns and shield components. Leave one power plant and one cooler equipped. Now you're at effectively your most undetectable signatures when your engines are cooled and you are directly facing the target.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Awesome!

[@MrSmith123123]

Love the fun!

[@ston3saw71]

I just love this enthusiasm of yours :D pls keep on doinig your interesting and entertaining videos.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thanks, will do!

[@Chaffee738]

Thanks for the deep dive! Will definitely be sure to study this video, as this is one of the rare single-seater fighters that got my attention. The aesthetics, sound design, and the idea of rapid pepepepepepewwwww are really appealing. I'm not too bothered by performance anyway no matter the doomposting, but it's great to see a good investigation to how to make the most out of the ship.

[@mao_miror]

A very good video thanks for that 👍👍

[@Funkm4ster96]

Very cool video as always! Now I'm very curious on doing this with the Talon Shrike!

[@Nate_Hawk]

You might try to set your shields to idle instead of charging on erkul, their EM signature is lower when they are fully charged...

[@Xaxxus]

TIL stealth actually works

[@blackcrest3429]

tbh i dont like the firebird, i wish it would have gotten a quantum dampener and not dumb missiles. Only 2 size 3 weapons and then only 12 missiles? not good enough. its cool that you can shoot 6 at a time but that means you get only 2 attempts + not enough missile payload to take out multiple targets. but i really like the design and i am very happy that you can get a sabre version with that sleek design.

[@Korvorkian1]

It's a spectacular ship for flying in support with friends

[@BGIANAKy]

I guess I have to buy it😊

[@seeker_rodan3113]

She's real fun to fly!

[@skibidabndada6683]

„YEEEESS HES DISABLED WOOOOW“ - now say that out of context

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

lol

[@bananasandbass]

You’re really using all the strengths of this amazing new ship. The speed agility and low signature to dash in and out of range. Its range of missiles. I think 12 is too few, cool that you can fire a volley of 6. I hear they’re increasing the payload tho.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

yep, we will have 24 missiles in the next patch.

[@crawlie]

Nice vid, good kill on the Hammerhead. According to erkul, the Firebird lacks some of the stealth of the other Sabres as well (-20% instead of -40%). It'd probably be even more effective if this is corrected.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you, agreed

[@kaisersolo76]

I'd take the laser cannons and just use the benefit of the reduction . its quicker to finish them off. I think bigger ships have a larger range, unless ive missed it.

[@razagniel8989]

Yes, putting on Omnisky 9s or Quarrelers on it doesn't increse the EM or IR high enough to beat out that CS signature, while giving you a reliable weapon that doesn't run out of ammo before you finish off your target.

[@RunAroundGuy2]

If im going in stealth with a missle ship. Eclipse and the firebird now. Turn off your main weapons and shields. Manually tuen off quantum drive in mfd then get into range. Unload ur missles then dip out. Ideally before they see u on there radar and if im coming above target sometimes ill disable my engines and "fall" into the missle range then power on everything and try and get out.

[@VoodooMcVee]

Firebirds! Energy weapons! All those things are interesting to me I don't care where you get them I need them both and I need them urgently _Clutch - Firebirds_

[@edgelordcutting]

also with cross section its actually depends on what angle you face towards the enemy if you are face on it will be lower then if you are facing away.

[@undeadpeak]

Fun fact about cross section is that it is dependent on how you’re facing the enemy, for example the fire birds front on CS is 646 on the sides is 5174 and belly on is 4441. So be face on as much as possible.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Good to know thanks. But how you got those numbers?

[@dillongeoffroy1481]

​@@cpt_foxyloxy I'd guess they shut off all systems and had a second player ship check at which ranges they were detected from.

[@danlewis2999]

You missed a bit if info. 3000 would be up to 3Km, and this would be dependent on the radar in the ship, as a 90% radar would detect 3000 EM at 2400 meters

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you for this info.

[@mukicare1977]

Super video! How do you track missiles?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you, this video will help you set up missile cam kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn_NhotqqMimn6c

[@Tiggerlooker]

Try approaching when your weapons are offline. and see how long it takes for enemy to see you, vs when weapons are on.

[@SpaceDad42]

I feel like CIG has asked and compensated you to be a cheerleader to sell their ship.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

lol....if they want to pay be for that, I totally welcome.

[@TheLordDeliverence]

Great video

[@lobsterpete8632]

wow i learned allot today! keep it up and please update if they fix this :) and btw how to camera missiles minea arent wokring under missiles and camera toggle

[@Darnelj1]

Surprised you didnt use the 'last missle' on that Hammerhead.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Lol...someone know my style very well.

[@sospeti]

With a bit more firepower like four S3 this ship would be one of the best in the game. Great speed agility but criminally underpowered with guns. And it is pretty much made of glass.

[@jacobliefeld9248]

Well it took two full firebird loads of missiles to kill the HH (and some guns)… which means a Shrike should kill it in one ammo load.

[@cookiebandit101]

I tested the firebird all day yesterday and found it to be good at one thing only. Speed. The missiles wouldn't lock on half the time the ships not very good at dogfighting and dies almost instantly. Super squishy. It's stealth seems to be somewhat decent but NPC's find me at 9km away.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

The speed of this ship is incredible, and if play correctly you can get your detection range down to lower than 5k, just remember don't get to NAV mode, in NAV mode, your detection range is 10k + and there is no way to get that down.

[@cookiebandit101]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Yah I know all the stealth tricks from my many eclipse adventures. I just wish the missiles were more potent, or that I could have 24 size 2 rattlers and launch 6 at once... because reasons. I however did not know there was a missile tracking camera I must investigate that function.

[@luistigerfox]

yeah so your missiles punched that hammerhead right in the power generators I think, even if it didn't fully disable its powerplants it gave it too little power to maintain shields and thrust. Nice one.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you! That's a lucky shot.

[@minicute2234]

10:52 at that point i would hijack the hammer and have ai crew take out the other ships nearby with it. u got really lucky in disabling the hammer

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

yeah I thought about that, but the HH was facing up side down, so I decided not to do that incase I got out and can't get back on my ship.

[@merclord]

I had basically written off the Firebird until I saw this video.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

took a while (one night...lol) to research, practice, and figure out how to use this ship more effectively

[@Brokenfang77]

Power!

[@ScottBot726]

How do you switch cameras to the missiles?! That’s so cool

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

This video will help you set it up kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn_NhotqqMimn6c

[@sergioveraruiz5384]

what do you think about the Talon Shrike, have twice the missiles and have twice de reduction EM/IR/CS signatures?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Haven't tired it in this patch, but I know the different is, firebird can fire 6 missiles one after another, the Strike can only fire 4 missiles, but have to fire one by one a bit slower than the firebird

[@alphawolfgang173]

id like to know more about the sentinal vanguard and how EMPs are currently working

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Noted, will find time to check out EMPs and the sentinel

[@justalex4214]

There is another factor: other ships. You can hide an entire squad of fighters behind the radar signature of a carrack for example. That aside the firebird plays exactly like the eclipse, hit and run. It got boring rather quickly.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Indeed, great example, thank you

[@TheAngriestGamer.]

stealth stuff hasnt worked sense 3.15 sense the great flatening. but stealth stuff use to have lower EM, IR and CS. if you covered a eclipse in All stealth and used the Low power/suppression mode, turned off ur shields and disabled ur projectile guns, you could be about 650m from a target before you would get spotted. it was insane. Fighting a modern hover bike in space will give you a good example of what it use to be like. except back then it was throwing S9s at you that were bugged and couldnt be dodged.

[@rhadiem]

Firebird is only 20% stealth reduction, not 40% like the normal Sabre or Raven. Check Erkul for confirmation. It's slower and less agile than the Avenger. I want to love it, but it's underwhelming imo. You would have been better off in an Eclipse. Interesting ideas though with nav mode stealth implications.

[@circuitguy9750]

Narrator: *a few hours later* 😂🎉

[@phantomwraith1984]

Eh, eclipse is still better as a stealth killer with its lancing strike. You lock onto them outside their detection range, get your topedo ready and then fly at them full throttle, dropping your torpedo at its minimum range. However, my friends and i prefer to using things that can carry cargo like the Corsair or C1 Spirit because after we kill all these ships, we raid their cargo for valuables like weevil eggs, quantanium and aultratoxins

[@thedoctrinetv]

I wrote a pair of pretty extensive guides on how radar and stealth work. Link to my Substack is on my channel page. But it's a common misconception that CS signature can't be reduced. I'm also not sure where you got the information that radars have been equalized. Is it something new? Last I checked, they weren't, but that was a couple of patches ago, when I wrote the stealth guide.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

This is wonderful, thank you! I wish I had found your page earlier. But I am gonna do a second video for this ship and the stealth after the new patch drops, so I will be using and crediting your page. It is quite difficult to find updated SC stealth resources in writing, and this is most appreciated.

[@thedoctrinetv]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Thank you! I've very eager to find out what your experience will be, what has changed since 3.21, and if I'm wrong or have misunderstood anything. I'm very confident in my research, but also excited by the possibility of discovering something I may have overlooked.

[@p587868]

How do you trick them dropping the shield and stay idle afterwards? I tried but they won't stop chasing me... I was in a normal sabre with all stealth equipments, having the max signature of 4000ish, so they should unlock me when I am 4000m away?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

with NPC and with server lag, this is not always true, but if you are in NAV mode, the detection range will be longer. So you drop in alert them, and fly out until you see on your MFD your enemy drops shield, and then turn back prepare to fight.

[@terrygilbert5553]

I was wondering what the key bind was the missle cam?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

In the beginning of this video, I showed how to set it up kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn_NhotqqMimn6c

[@nobodymr.nobody740]

can you make video ,using mass drivers?(if it be on f7a mk2 it would be great)

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Will do

[@nobodymr.nobody740]

@@cpt_foxyloxy thanks ,alot❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Syphirioth]

Yes the components are equalized. But on the A1 it al acted very weird before 3.23. Probably should be checking it out again if something changed. Cause on the A1 there was a huge difference between stealth and military parts. Military turned out to be more stealthy according to what was shown in numbers. Made no sense at all. But ye the front signature of A1 is nice and small but thats about it. So I guess an actual stealthy surface bomber not gonna happen soon I guess. The cross section on that one is from bottom viewed way to much. It seems the firebird has same problem with detection as A1 cause of the similair shape. Great with nose perfectly on target otherwise alot less effective cause of cross section. And this not realy works with A1 that well XD A1 numbers i remember were like 9k front section. 33 or 23k bottom. and then I could reduce IR below 8 or 7k and EM even lower i think with gattling guns. But I was still spotted miles away.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thanks for sharing this

[@jacist]

Was there a setting changed to see the values of the signatures? I don't have any numbers, just the bars filling up/depleting

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Go to "game settings" scroll all the way down, find "Emission HUD - Display signature value" switch to YES, there you go.

[@jacist]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Thank youuu

[@mrvei-vg7et]

fun video, can you test the Redeemer? would love to see how well the turrets works with like Omniskys

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

You mean the size 5 turret guns or the pilot guns

[@mrvei-vg7et]

@@cpt_foxyloxy s5 turret guns :)

[@DianaDi-sl4yq]

Enthusiastic mother 83

[@danlewis2999]

Oh and stealth is applied before the values, not afterwards

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Got it. thx

[@lystic9392]

Why did the Hammerhead drop its shield? It needs to remove its shield to move?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Yes, in master mode, you have to drop shield to go to NAV mode in order to fly faster.

[@lystic9392]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Oh... Wow...

[@lobsterpete8632]

can you also confimr a thing for me. If im out of detection range and i lock missiles on to antoher player "pvp" is he getting noticed even tho im stealthed.... ?

[@lobsterpete8632]

how do u track missiles?

[@MaximizedAction]

How did you get the IR, EM, CS numbers to show up on the top left?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Go to menu, game setting, scroll all the way down, 4th to the last option, show emissions.

[@Gofr5]

How do you get it to show the signature numbers on the hud? Won't show on mine.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Go to "game settings" scroll all the way down, find "Emission HUD - Display signature value" switch to YES, there you go.

[@Gofr5]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Thanks a bunch.

[@migtin688]

Do they always drop shields when they follow you? How is that triggered?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

most of the time yes, it is triggered when they are chasing you in NAV mode, so you need to alert them first, and then fly away but watch your MFD, make sure they will chase you and wait until they drop shield and turn back and wait for them to get in range. It takes some practice, but eventually it is easy to achieve.

[@migtin688]

@@cpt_foxyloxy So not a bug or an exploit.... How marvelous... (5 fingered man)

[@BrunoSilveira-cz7zk]

Why did the Hammerhead AI dropped it's shield?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

If you fly fast, he will chase you in NAV mode.

[@BrunoSilveira-cz7zk]

@cpt_foxyloxy got it! It's a whole different game now!

[@ТатьянаЯковлева-у8щ]

Pink part 34

[@janschmid281]

Does the raven also have stealth reduction?

[@mndeg]

it has more than the firebird. firebird stealth red is probably bugged/not set correctly

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Yep, raven has 40% reduction, the firebird 20%

[@janschmid281]

@@cpt_foxyloxy very nice

[@RavingNut]

Radars are equalised? Nar not really, MSR can show gems easier then a cutty black scanner, and a Aquilla can do even better. So I'd say that they aren't necessarily equal. Also foxy that cross section thing is directional and the number shown is your max cross section reading. So from front on (to the target) they will read a smaller (if not smallest) reading. But you show your top or bottom in the direction of the target, it will let of the max reading to be seen.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Yes I have learned those two points: radars now have a slightly different detection range depends on the size, and CS will be different depends of the side of the ship facing enemies, which you can have an idea in shipwiewer website, so I started to show those values in my videos from now on.

[@RavingNut]

@@cpt_foxyloxy , I only found out as a group of us got board around jumptown (all flying stealth) and started testing cross section reading 😄. Also in a coming patch, the Firebird is getting more missles and a buff to is stealth bonuses... so I am hearing.

[@elyayesss5949]

Alive brother 32

[@Synax_2NICE]

you got a lot wrong in this video about stealth bro. CS is depending on the side you point to the enemy, looking nose towards him your CS will be very small. Also there ARE indeed different radar sizes in the game. And lastly, you cant translate the numbers in your emissions 1:1 in meters, since you also have 20% stealth bonus etc. The real value can be seen and calculated based on the enemy ship in ship performance viewer (the website)

[@skibidabndada6683]

So This is the Cheapest ert Farmer basically

[@Praetoreon]

So, in order for the Firebird to take out an ERT, you have to cheese the new master modes flight model to force the Hammerhead to drop its shields, unload all of your missiles on the now non-shielded HH which renders the ship unflyable, spend what looked like 30 minutes of flybys expending all of your ammo and hull strength, then bail right before death to heal and replenish, come back and unload all of your missiles again, and hopefully it will be dead. Got it. I will not be buying this ship. 🙄

[@Meatsie]

yeaaaah, not a very effective ship when you can't take out a single hammerhead, with shields down the entire time, in one run. Thanks for the thorough video showing me just how little I need this ship :)

[@mndeg]

just 600i and left click. firebird is superior in 1v1s and group combat

[@DrunkenCitizen]

Hmm learn from me? Ok. Master modes suck, stealth is mostly non existent, and missiles don't work. Why did wee buy this ship?

[@DrunkenCitizen]

@@Blackbird_80 yeah... Thanks bro. Been playing for a while it gets tiring. Half assed always gets tiring

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

lol...good question, why did we buy this or all that ships, and good answer, Alpha...alpha..

[@DrunkenCitizen]

@@Blackbird_80 you need to stop taking things so seriously in the chat. Calm down and realize no one cares.

[@mndeg]

missiles work fine

[@はなこちゃん]

Does anyone else feel 12 missiles too little? Because if you load 6 at once then you only shoot twice then have to spend 30mins to restock

[@jwonyoutube]

That just means your target is too meaty for a single firebird to take down solo

[@Matze239]

Devs also said the Firebird will be buffed soon. Double the amount of missiles and 40% reduction.

[@cyanetica4802]

Cool video! I'm often playing stealthy and like to approach NPC enemies so fast that they can't shoot missiles. You can disable your quantum drive in NAV mode manually in the power menu to engage with maximum speed, then quickly swap the mode and shoot at them before they even realize you're there. Also the cockpit HUD's shown IR/CS/EM values include the -20% of the Firebird already, you can easily test this with ships that have stealth variants - for example the Razor. Also be careful with the IR supression, because if you see the HEAT number rising afterwards your components will overheat. I rarely supress larger shields, because those tend to overheat very quickly, it depends on the ship & shield size. Stealth shields overheat slower due to less heat generation (the ventilation symbol in Erkul), that's also their current main purpose. They don't magically reduce your EM or IR, but build up less heat, so your IR will not rise as much if you're flying around a lot non-stop with active or regenerating shields. Someone else in the comments already wrote it down, but your actual cross-section is not a fixed number, but changes with the angle enemies look at you. The Firebird/Raven has a tiny cross-section if you look at it frontal for example, so you can get even closer than 5km with your nose directly pointed towards the enemy.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you for all these details, I learned a lot more from your comment, much appreciated.

[@yikes3049]

such a beautiful ship but missiles just suck right now and also why does it only have a 20% stealth reduction while other stealth ships have 40%?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Yeah, the missile problem can be overcome in certain ways, but sometimes the server lag will cause missile to be non-effective. And the 20% stealth reduction should be a bug, I hope.

[@jwonyoutube]

You hit it out the park w this video, good attention to detail and research done

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you

[@InvictusByz]

Swapping to Vipers for a mere 150m min range is a bad move IMO. Thunderbolt III is EM tracking *and* proximity, making it very hard to break the lock *and* very difficult to evade as it still detonates and deals damage on a near miss. Vipers must physically contact the target, and IR is the easiest to defeat with countermeasures.

[@KelrCrow]

Does NAV FLT mode still have high EM? Probably, since i think your QT is still spooled.

[@danlewis2999]

The cross section data you gave was incorrect. Cross section value is relative to your largest cross section. In that ship, it would be looking at your ship from above or below, known as the pancake view.

[@spcrowe]

Good technique,manipulation of his shields by using the MM's, clever

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you!

[@rhadiem]

Agreed, didn't know you can bait PVE ships into nav mode, and very interesting they can stay nav mode after they lose track of you.

[@mazack00]

Radars are NOT equal right now! Depending on the ship it will be between 80% and 60% of signature.

[@SwedishYouthHumanist]

I wish the cross-sesection detection value would decrease if you flew closer to the ground or to other debris. That would be cool as well as good gameplay.

[@GiGod2]

So its just clicked for me if I solo a larger ship like a connie its going to be better if I remove all the "manned" turrets that I am not using to reduce my signature.

[@aronmangaming]

Love the video but it's sad to see 12 s3 missiles that all hit, barely do any damage. Missiles really need a rework, fast!

[@edgelordcutting]

Actually there is a difference for stealth components and that's decay rate of EM.

[@Synax_2NICE]

the shields of a ship makes no difference if you shoot missiles at them ... they penetrate shields no matter what.

[@Wakish0069]

Man I really miss when components were actually different from each other