Firebox Stove - The END | No longer using my expensive Firebox Stove to cook Firebox Stove Review

[@thomasoverton7131]

I have the SS firebox 5in and you're right, they are heavy! Good for car camping bur never take it backpacking. It's just not worth the weight. Anyway, great video. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@MotoGiant]

Very rare to have a firebox owner to chime in with positive comments - I usually get some outrage for pointing out the downsides, thanks Thomas!

[@Jacob-ly8vs]

I just got my first firebox in the mail yesterday. It's the stainless steel nano and I got the flame guard, solid fuel plate, and xbox. I'm somewhere between a backpacker and a bushcrafter (which essentially just means I will never be ultralight lol) and I LOVE the concept of a flexible, reliable stove. My current setup allows for use of sticks and esbit tabs, but I could very easily pick up the firebox isobutane burner and a trangia spirit burner and use just about every popular bush fuel with my box. This scratches my prepper itch, too! Romantic is the perfect descriptor for this product, but I don't think it's non-functional at all.

[@SgtSnark]

I get it, you don’t like it. I have used the SS Nano for almost 15 years now and it more then adequately satisfies the “two is one, one is none principle” in that I can use wood, esbit fuel tabs, a trangia alcohol burner, trangia gas burner, alcohol gel, mini sterno cans. Heck, I even used a mini survival candle one time just to see if it would work…..it did. I have carried the Nano literally thousands of miles backpacking including a section hike of the AT and I never had to worry about available fuel sources when I came off the trail for supplies as I had multiple options. I also have a MSR pocket rocket, dragon fly and a 1961 SVEA 123. Each one has its niche, but IMO FireBox stoves has the market cornered on versatility. Lastly, after a day of trail humping there is nothing better than a cup of coffee cooked over a wood fire…it just tastes better! Anyway safe travels and enjoy the open road. O

[@thomasoverton7131]

@@SgtSnark I never said I didn't like it. I just the 5in SS is heavy. I have two SS Nanos. 1 in my get home bag and I also keep one with my backpacking cookset with an alcohol stove.

[@darrencrook143]

Could never ditch the firebox. It's about relaxing and enjoying outdoor experience. The point is to enjoy the time not rush everything.

[@nikosfilipino]

@@0TheLastLoneWolf out of curiosity what is it that you're cooking that it takes 2 hours to cook? you cook anything for that long you're bound to come across heat issues even with gas stoves

[@notquiteultralight1701]

You took the words right out of my mouth. I rush around all the time. If I’m “out there” I like to slow it down. I absolutely love mine. It’s easy to use and cook semi complicated meals on. Also great to do campfires on after dinner. Just gotta find and process the right wood the right way.

[@SnowyAspenHills]

Perhaps try the Swedish log method in the Firebox, might need more wood processing at first but if it’s hardwood it will burn for quite a while.

[@Buckeyes216]

right.. also imagine having a fire ban lol. I wouldn’t even camp if I couldn’t play with fire. sucks to suck I guess 🤷‍♂️

[@BMacW650]

I have the Ti version of the 5in and the nano. I always carry the big version as a mini firepit. It packs flat, so for motorcycle camping, it really doesn't add much for you to carry it around as a backup to the canister.

[@raytribble8075]

I take my SS 5” Firebox Gen 2 stove(s) every time I go camping and they have never failed me. I have the Nano also for pack trips… but whether on my kayak making river runs, taking a pack trip with the horses or simple treks into the high country on foot… you just can’t beat them. This is where engineering and functionality meet. Awesome video and I respect your view… and I am leaving for my home state of Wyoming on a fall camping trip and all of my Firebox gear is already loaded. Happy Trails

[@peterjessop1878]

Wood stoves aren’t for everyone especially if speed is important to you. This is why gas stoves exist. They are fast reliable and easy to control. Wood stoves require a skill set to be acquired and you need to have the right mindset also. There are methods to guarantee a long burn time if that is what you need without tending the fire too much. Heat control is harder generally, but jetboils aren’t known for their sensitivity either. In the end it’s down to your needs and whatever works for you.

[@MotoGiant]

I love cooking with wood. In fact, I just shot a video cooking over an old tube-grill with MUCH better results? Now I am really thinking the stoves are a gimmick. Video soon!

[@AquaTech225]

@@MotoGiant man you seem to have a bad taste in ya mouth for something with firebox lol. It’s all good just seem like ya reaching all kinda ways to justify not using it anymore. For minor petty things? Or is it a good way to catch views? Just curious

[@MotoGiant]

@@AquaTech225 Just disappointed, I really like the Firebox, it just does not fit what I am doing.

[@Chris66able]

" jetboils aren’t known for their sensitivity either " They ARE known for the ability to simmer, especially the Jetboil Minimo.

[@MDM1992]

Lighting it like a Swedish firetorch lasts a long time, long enough to cook most things twigs are useless as they burn out too quickly. Gas and alcohol have the major issue of needing to pack or keep buying enough fuel to keep them lit, with a small saw and a bushcraft knife you can always find wood as fuel almost anywhere so is far more sustainable and free. The only real downside to a wood burning stove is the soot but putting it inside a dedicated canvas pouch and strapping it to the outside of your bag instead of putting it inside solves that issue pretty well. If you don't mind constantly buying alcohol or gas, and having the possibility of running out/not being able to find it on your travels, maybe that's a better option for you, but for me the wood burning stove takes first place every single time

[@MotoGiant]

I will probably be giving it another look at my next adventure, but for now I had to leave it at the house. I just have too much stuff already and it's just too damn heavy

[@boutthere3374]

I've had the SS firebox for years and although I rarely take it in a backpack(weight not worth it) but we always take it when camping from a vehicle. You can have a fantastic camp fire with a tenth of the wood/work/cleanup. I haven't used a park fire pit in years although we do stand the firebox on any park fire pit grates. I have various Ti collapsible twigs stoves and one of them is always in my packraft, kayak or backpack. Last kayak trip we had a fire on the beach every night and never touched a saw or axe. We just picked up all the small beach wood that would fit. On one trip I had the valve in my gas canister fail and lost all the fuel...no big deal I used my Ti twig stove for the rest of the trip. The various twig stoves just make life easier out in the woods. Loved the video

[@MotoGiant]

Well thanks for watching dude, yes I plan to take the firebox with me on the short journeys of a weekend or less. I can find some space then. Also looking at some cheap titanium alternatives

[@emeryz10]

@@MotoGiant , the bushbuddy mini is the move.

[@renoman_]

Firebox and Bush box are also about the wilderness experience : finding and cutting the wood , building the fire and cooking with the resources around you. Enjoying the wilderness !! I also have isopropane stoves and alcohol stoves for when I just dont feel like messing with a fire. All the different stoves have a time and place . keep your FB for times when you arent rushed

[@echo6echo419]

I agree with you. I go out into the woods to relax and take my time, hence building a fire. If I'm that rushed I'm not having a good time. HOWEVER, to each his own. If you're about the hurry up and go, these stoves aren't for you. Time and place right? :)

[@SnowyAspenHills]

You can always use a Trangia gas burner in the Firebox and if for any reason that got compromised you still have the option of using what nature provides. Perhaps try the Swedish fire torch method, more processing initially but should burn for a decent time without intervention.

[@Liberty4Ever]

I've been camping since 1970. Started using stoves in 1976 and never looked back. I have a decent camp stove collection. The MSR Whisperlite International is a great motorcycle camping option because it burns unleaded gasoline but there is a bit of maintenance, mostly on the pump, but it's convenient to fill the fuel canister when refilling the bike and using the fuel canister as spare fuel for the bike. The MSR Pocket Rocket (and Chinese clones) is the easiest and fastest to use but buying the steel isobutane canisters is an expensive hassle and I usually need to carry two because one isn't empty but doesn't have enough for the entire trip. I mostly camp in warm weather so my favorite is the pop can alcohol stove. Alcohol doesn't vaporize well under 40 degrees F so you might need to put the fuel in your sleeping bag to cook breakfast. I made the pop can stoves myself. It's a fun 30 minute project - maybe 10 minutes for each subsequent stove. The stove weighs an incredible 0.3 ounces and there are no moving parts. It's surprisingly durable. I have one that burns long enough to boil water somewhat quickly for tea or make ramen, and I made another that has fewer vents to burn longer to slowly simmer food for 20-30 minutes so I can make rice or simmer soup. I'll use the regular stove to bring it to a boil then swap to the simmer stove. PRO TIP: A great source of alcohol for your stove when moto camping is the HEET fuel additives in the yellow bottle. You can buy it at many convenience stores, some grocery stores and all auto parts stores so it's road friendly. It's methanol. The plastic bottles are a great size to pack, they're light weight, and very easy to pour. I bought a small Solo twig stove and it's very cute. I got caught in the romance of it, but in practice, I hate sooty pots, don't want the hassle of a fire, and fires are inherently no bueno for stealth camping, so I've never used it. I keep it in case I need to cook at home during a prolonged power outage. Longer than an ice storm. EMP? Carrington event? Zombie apocalypse? Political unrest and economic disaster?

[@MotoGiant]

I love the IDEA of the MSR, but the PRACTICE of it made me give up on it many years ago. I love the idea of the homemade alcohol stoves too, but again, practicality. Just made dinner last night on a tube-grill, burning stick - turned out perfect!

[@Liberty4Ever]

@@MotoGiant - I did a search for "tube-grill, burning stick" and the search engine was apparently more confused than I was. It returned results for "tube steak smoker". NOT what I was expecting! :-o

[@MotoGiant]

@@Liberty4Ever editing a tube grill video RIGHT now! Going back to that one on my trip - much smaller and flexible, even tho it is 10% the cost?

[@swynty777]

Going to get the 1lb titanium stove, can't always rely on gas. Good thing to have just in casen

[@norseman1137]

I think there are a few issues with your findings whether it be using firebox or bushbox.. 1. If you build the fire correctly (top down) you get a 30min plus burn very little tending ...unlike feeding twigs in it. 2. I use firebox along side alcohol stove (to make hot drink) while I build firebox fire... I then use the FB to cook on .. 3. Your gas option leaves you a slave to finding gas and dealing with low temps 4. There is a place for all three stoves in different situations.. 5. Re weight ... I assume you have the stainless steel FB.. double weight of Ti one.

[@MotoGiant]

Good tips, I may revisit the Firebox in future trips, as long as burn bans are not gonna be an issue.

[@norseman1137]

@@MotoGiant I find the alcohol stove with small cross trivet is ideal for hot drink short walk... I find gas stove great for ultra light kit... But for bushcraft n cooking I use firebox 5" Ti or the smaller bushbox LF Ti. I found the nano to serve no purpose n sold it

[@MotoGiant]

@@norseman1137 I really want to see a 30 minute burn, never even got close to that without adding sticks? If I could get that I would not be disappointed? What kind of wood do you burn?

[@norseman1137]

@@MotoGiant if you lay 1/2-1inch wood horizontal then build up alternate direction of lay to near top then kindling n fire lighter starter... It will slowly burn down through the pile with option to add more... If I use hard wood burns to about 30.. pine n soft maybe 20... You can also build it like a Swedish fire log in the stove... I also often take a small bag of charcoal if I wanna cook on the grill like steak etc ... I boil water on it as it starts up the charcoal then cook when it's ready

[@D4rkM4773r]

@@MotoGiant yea the wood you use is important. Any wood which expires fast and burns fast is not ideal, however, in either case try using the Swedish fire torch method instead of twigs

[@peetsnort]

What i want to try is get one of those big turkey roasting bags for snuffing the half burnt embers for reuse. The reused half charcoal catch very quickly. At home I use a bigger cooking pot with a lid to snuff it.

[@akadog6319]

Mine is in a vehicle and I use mine to boil water for whatever is in a bag. The Swedish torch with the ash plate as an air damper actually works and I can get about 50 minutes cook time, but it takes time to fill it with wood. I could never get rid of it.

[@Doubler00745]

I mean if it takes 10 minutes to get going what else are you gonna do while camping. I mean I get where you’re coming from but the little trivial tasks of camping is what I live for. It surely beats the heck out of high stress work I have to deal with on the daily. It’s such a weight off my shoulders to think about nothing but caring for my little fire

[@MotoGiant]

Starting the fire is OK, tending the fire becomes a big hassle when the sticks burn thru so quickly. I really liked the IDEA of starting a fire with sticks and brush, but there are some HUGE downsides to that when cooking. I have migrated to a better system, but to each his own I guess?

[@boseisgood]

Great video! I enjoy your straight up talk!

[@MotoGiant]

thanks for watching and the feedback - I will keep making them!

[@the_E4_Mafia]

I am in agreement with you about the large firebox stove, I need to get rid of mine but I don’t want to just throw it away I guess I’ll throw it up on eBay or something. I do like the idea of carrying a stove like that which is why I bought the firebox nano. At the next rally I go to I’m going to cook something on it and see how it goes and see if the weight reduction is worth it for the output.

[@mediocreman561]

I have the nano. It is something to pay attention to with the sticks because it burns REAL FAST. I tried to put really big wood on it to slow it down and still have a good fire. It works. But it depends on how much time you want to have putzin around on it. I finally got me a 5 dollar vegetable strainer and use it as my fire pit slash firebox stove.

[@AtomicBleach]

@@mediocreman561 a vegetable strainer is a great little stove/fire pit. You can get a really neat fire pattern with one. Last time I hiked I had both my nano and little folding vegetable steamer. Great little combo.

[@pureblood2020]

Right there with you on the firebox. Cool, but not practical & its dirty. Gas is what I use.

[@scottbutler1561]

It looks like your main point is based on convenience and a lack of skill. There are so many other fuel alternatives to sticks as fuel for the Firebox. Split wood, wood pellets, and charcoal are great alternatives. The Firebox has never been about speed, but efficiency, versatility, ambiance, and adaptability. Using a Swedish torch method, charcoal, or pellets, I can easily get long burns and control the burn time with the damper method, without fuel management being inconvenient.

[@MotoGiant]

just learning about the Swedish torch method, gonna have to try that before giving up

[@Shadow_Wraith]

You need to be the outdoors type to appreciate such a product.

[@MotoGiant]

Obviously, this is the only video of mine you have watched?

[@reptyler123]

I share alot of your same feelings with firebox, I have the nano, and use it for lightweight through hiking. There is some comfort in knowing i have a little unit that i can cook on by using the fuel around me and having a small footprint fire at night is cozy and romantic. That being said if im not in the mood for it, it can be a pain in the ass and time consuming to find enough tinder or cut/spilt the right size sticks for a Swedish fire torch, which I will carry an alcohol stove for. This has definitely left me wondering quite a few times why i dont just have an even lighter alcohol stove housing for my cooking needs or a gas stove and just make a regular old small campfire for aesthetics and camping vibes. The firebox definitely sells you on the romance but its actually a product that you convince yourself you need or will be practical when in reality you could boil water with a campfire and a mess kit dangling on a stick if you really needed too lol

[@miksUSA777]

Love the " Romance that the Practice" 🤣 you are right! we are not usually in the wilderness

[@dougfresh1341]

Flagstaff??… I’ll be back Midwest. FYI, we love the solo stove mini.

[@k81law]

You should try the go system adapt gas burner(20$?) with the firebox. Instead of using the included fire sticks, you need rounded tent pegs and they’ll clip in perfectly. So essentially you get a gas stove with the incredible stability that the firebox offers.

[@MotoGiant]

I did that 2 years ago, the firebox just simply does not meet my needs anymore

[@elderhiker7787]

I hear what you are saying, but the thing about camping equipment is that it must match your specific goals. The beauty of the Firebox is that it can adapt to any situation you will encounter. Not only is it designed for the Trangia alcohol burner, but you can configure it for the Trangia gas burner too. But, I agree that if your primary cooking task is boiling water for morning coffee, or a dehydrated Mountain House meal, there are cheaper options. But using the Trangia alcohol burner is just as fast as using a small gas canister and a burner screwed into the top. And alcohol is cheaper and easier to find. Also, you can refill those small canisters for absolutely nothing by buying an adapter that fits the canister and your standard 2o pound gas tank that you use for your grill. Just attach both fittings and turn the 20 pound tank upside down and the gas will flow into the small canister until it’s full. Easy peats. I generally tip-off 3-4 canisters just for emergencies. One highly important feature of the Firebox is the highly stable platform it provides. I’ve been camping where it was very sloppy and the canister with burner on top with Billy pot perched on top was downright scary. So, I will keep my Firebox stove because in times of emergencies, the Firebox is ready for any challenge

[@tazman8271]

You can use a canister stove with it. I use, propane, wood, wood pellets, charcoal.... but it's not for everyone

[@townieoutdoors8121]

The way u look at it is keeping my fire craft up to par.also I use thick rounds as a Swedish fire torch and it burns for ever . One thing I don't like is r cool down time before you can pack it up . But I really like getting the fire going .incorporates knife use and other out door tool use . Honest video and good info 👌

[@pedroclaro7822]

Best thing I did was buy a picogrill. It’s always in my pack, always. I do everything I can at nighttime. I cook a little extra dinner for breakfast, or make my oats there, and keep boiling water in a quality thermos bottle that has it around 70C in the morning. But yeah sometimes I prefer to bring a little alcohol stove so I can make my coffee in the morning

[@paulherron4289]

Keep the bottle and use anMSR whisper light tuning on unleaded and if you in a pinch you can get a few extra miles on you bike love it. It is a little sooty though.

[@Geronimointhewild]

Canisters are expensive, and are throw aways. All options have their issues. If you want to make it even more convenient......instant coffee, room temp. No fuel required.

[@MotoGiant]

sounds like you are offering pain?

[@bradb2514]

I’ve carried a Chinese knock off of the Firebox for a couple years and haven’t used it once. Every time I’m ready to eat I’m HUNGRY and I want to eat NOW. So I break out my canister of fuel and my tiny stove attachment and cook as fast as I can. No romance at all. Just ask my wife. Wait, what are we talking about…

[@AntisocialMediaMike]

Been using mine all weekend for coffee, food and heat in the evenings and it has never taken ten minutes to light. Has it lit and bkiling water for coffee this morning in about 4 or 5 minutes tops. It's a fantastic piece of kit. I hear ya on the romantic thing and yeah, it is rather, but it's also super convenient and a whole load of fun.

[@Saltfly]

I use bigger chunks in the G2. Much less babysitting. And makes better coals. Anyways, you’ll miss it when it’s gone.

[@MotoGiant]

already have an alternative on the way !!

[@peetsnort]

Try carrying a small bag of charcoal. It's very efficient and lightweight. You can snuff it for reuse

[@MotoGiant]

Guessing you are weekend camping....in a vehicle?

[@peetsnort]

@@MotoGiant no. I said it's light. You use it dual fuel. Wood when convenient. Then for long clean burn get the charcoal out. I know what works. Been there done that for years

[@peetsnort]

@@MotoGiant really. Give it a go. I find it quite spiritual. I know the bikes carry capacity is severely limited but I even do it backpacking Like the booze. Get whiskey and decant it into a light plastic bottle and the water you get wherever. The Japanese use charcoal so well despite all the gizmos available. I use one layer of the fire box with one inch of charcoal for a half hour burn for sausages and a cup of tea or Joe. You kind of get in touch with the fire. And are not pressed for time. You chill with the mates. Don't knock it. Try it once and get back to me Happy riding

[@samuelramos4042]

The Firebox WORKS. Enough said.

[@MotoGiant]

Yup! As long as there is no fire ban....and as long as you brought plenty of dry sticks with you.....and you have enough time and patience to keep feeding the flames while cooking, it totally works.

[@samuelramos4042]

It runs on propane fuel as well.

[@MotoGiant]

@@samuelramos4042 I think that was my point? That, and, you dont really need an elaborate BOX to cook over

[@samuelramos4042]

Lol. The firebox isn't "elaborate" but ok. To each his own.

[@MotoGiant]

@@samuelramos4042 neither is your "opinion" very elaborate, but OK :)

[@zero-ol2nt]

I have a lot of cool camping gear including a crescent kayak I use for kayak camping BUT my favorite piece of gear is till my firebox 5in titanium stove. I also in conjunction use the titanium nano. I can take my trangia alcohol burner drop it in either stove easily or take my canister hose adapter feed it through either stove and cook with a canister. However I only use that when I'm boiling water or making coffee. I don't like to depend on alcohol or canisters too much unless wood is wet or I'm doing something quick. When I want a real meal I can use wood in the 5in or drop some lump charcoal and attach the grill and grill up a nice steak. Nothing beats it in my opinion.

[@MotoGiant]

I missed it on this trip :(

[@kimwiser445]

You can make the Firebox a gas stove. They have a connector on their website.

[@MotoGiant]

Ya know, as funny as that sounds, it really does not surprise me?

[@andrewwilliams4321]

I agree firebox is not the lightest or the fact way to cook but that isn't why I carry it. I like them for their versatility and because it is a solid way to make a fire, even while backpacking, without carrying a safe and a hatchet and and and. I keep my pack weight below 15 lbs but my titanium nano is well worth the weight IMO.

[@MotoGiant]

Good points....I might feel differently with a nano?

[@D4rkM4773r]

Why limit yourself to only a single source of fuel instead of just getting the trangia butane burner since you already have the firebox?

[@MotoGiant]

I'm guessing you did not watch the video now?

[@D4rkM4773r]

@@MotoGiant no I watched it. In one of my other comments I made a recommendation to try Swedish fire torch to fix your tending problem. And if you are that keen on using butane then get trangia attachment for the firebox. As for the weight, perhaps the scout is a better fit for you or Ti version. Also, different wood burns at different speeds because of density

[@cbdyna]

I know little about bushcraft, but trying to learn . So, I'm getting one to learn how to learn primitive fire starting and cooking with wood in case SHTF and to have fun during the winter season when not able to ride. Not so much to use while moto camping. And don't feel bad. The only damn camping thing I used out of the many camping things I purchased for a recent 8 thousand mile moto trip was a camping chair. LOL. Didn't help that everybody and their momma was camping and the national parks were nuts at the same time.

[@MotoGiant]

I try to stay clear of the Parks - I want to escape people, not weave thru them? A real shame because there are some really amazing places out there, you just have to search a bit harder outside the parks

[@zenriderx]

Would make a good backup. I always have 3 ways to cook/make hot cocoa. Also, slow down mannnn, enjoy the quiet, be in the moment,...mannnn, lol! Good points though. I prefer my propane setup, really spoiled by it. Dude, an Alpiners stove can use gas, is about the same size as your butane and cooks like a jet engine

[@MotoGiant]

I am guessing you are a car camper?

[@zenriderx]

@@MotoGiant half Vanagon Camper, half lightweight hiker. I actually just finished 4 hours of manning an alternative cooking booth at an emergency preparedness fair. That's where I was told about the fireboxx and the pillbottle stove. Think I want to test both out now. Maybe that pillbottle would be a good backup for your butane (just slosh some fuel out of your tank, lol!)

[@lonecrapshooter6197]

You can use medical alcohol or Heet gas additive from an auto parts store much cheaper than alcohol from a liquor store. Also charcoal briquettes , wood pellets, and Swedish fire torch method all last much much longer than twigs (well over 30 minutes if you adjust the air flow with the ashpan/damper) Also you can place a gas burner in the Firebox stove, it's made for it. I wipe mine down with cooking oil and a paper towel after each use so it remains clean and soot free. My titanium firebox weighs a pound, not too heavy for me and folds flat 5"X7.5" so not bulky at all. The Nana size weighs 6 ozs. and folds even smaller. This should help, but if you don't like it, you don't like it, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla LOL.

[@MotoGiant]

actually, PGA from the liquor store is cheaper than heat per ounce, the only thing I did find out after the video was the whole swedish fire towards thing I think that's kind of an interesting idea. but you're right it's a cool stove it just doesn't work for me right now maybe sometime in the future?

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

Do you know of a good way to prevent soot and tar build up in the first place? The wood around my is lots of ceder and that stuff makes a huge mess out of my little wood burning stove. Burning stuff is fun but cleaning up afterwards is a pain in the ass and I would rather not spray my stuff with oven cleaner every time I decide I want to burn some sticks.

[@bobcolorado3491]

@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 He didn't say it was oven cleaner, it's cooking oil. I have a Firebox, absolutely love it, but then again I don't worry about "dirty hands".

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

@@bobcolorado3491 I used oven cleaner on mine and it worked great. also turns out I was burning fatwood not regular wood which is why my entire stove got a nice thick coat of tar on the inside.

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Totally agree with you. I own all of those stove.

[@townieoutdoors8121]

I see where your coming g from , the biggest downside for me is when I'm kayaking and stop to boil and refill my thermos with coffee then I have wait fir the box to cool down before I can pack it up and get back on the water . But combined with the ultra cook kit and just hanging out in the woods it's a huge win for me .also cooking on open fire with this small system is delicious too.

[@suthernsuperman]

Killin' me. I just bought one because of you and now you say you don't like it.

[@MotoGiant]

Have you used it yet?

[@spaztech]

Inquiring minds want to know. How has your Firebox experience been Alan?

[@LuisMartinez-fd1mc]

It's just like having a cast iron I've seen the still stove right there from that and I can't sign they all go the same they're the great ones and the long lasting ones

[@hectormuniz2521]

Good day brother, what are you asking for that firebox? I'm looking for one.

[@MotoGiant]

Prolly gonna hold on to it for now - things change, ya know? I would suggest getting a cheaper one from Amazon - like $30, and see if you like it?

[@hectormuniz2521]

Good morning brother, I got you, I was thinking about Amazon ha haaa. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.. Thank you, and enjoy your day.

[@MotoGiant]

@@hectormuniz2521 I know some folks that bought this one - 10% of the cost and WEIGHT !! amzn.to/3k1aSk2

[@robertk4552]

I never bring a single cooking solution along on an adventure. Firebox primarily at night when it is all about enjoying the camping experience. Jetboil or pocket rocket at breakfast and lunch to get back on the trail quicker.

[@MotoGiant]

Cooking and sleeping deserve redundancy

[@guidon.5413]

Using these one time canisters is incredibly wasteful. They are expensive, a complete waste of resources, and just overall a bad idea, especially for people enjoying the outdoors. I find it disappointing when people who are enjoying the idea of outdoor live, camping, etc. use products like this. That being said, I admit, I have some of them as well, but I try to get off them wherever possible. My alternatives are: alcohol burner (Trangia), LPG adapter with re-fillable bottles for the gas stoves I have, and, when car-camping, using induction. My most used options these days are Coleman white gas with a MSR Dragonfly when hiking and induction when using the truck.

[@TaMoose101]

Short version, you are too lazy to use the firebox

[@MotoGiant]

ahhh, but not too lazy to use yer mum?

[@rickeyvarga5432]

It packs extremely thin, if the additional weight doesn't bother you maybe keep it as a backup in the event you run out of fuel or something fails?. Like you, I mostly cook off my MSR stove but every once in a while, when passing through a town close to my campsite, I hop off my bike, grab a steak and throw it on the Firebox ...now that's heaven bro!

[@MotoGiant]

it is thin, but long and bulky, I might "upgrade" to a smaller cheaper grill if I do anything?

[@geneo3654]

I just got the freestyle and the nano and love them , both are bad ass in my book.. Both Burn wood, esbit tablets , and trangia burner How can you beat that?

[@goose45015]

I like the stove but its good for vehicle camping if you want to carry it be ready for the weight.

[@MotoGiant]

You could always carry a Hibachi if weight is not concern?

[@goose45015]

I like the options fire box gives.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Don't like feeding sticks? Use matchlight briquettes. They light fast and you can immediately start heating water or cooking - no need to ash over. Firebox is cheap because the fuel is free. You can get the adapter for firebox to use isobutane or propane burner inside it. I have the firebox and the pocket rocket stove. Each has it's own niche. Downside of firebox is that it is heavy...

[@vinesinloops5161]

Bro you are singing my songs. I woke up, put some cold creek water in the pot. Broke out the nano to boil some water for coffee. 1hr later my mind drifted to Nother dimension entirely fueled by hate. Cold water is the kryptonite to these damn things.

[@adammoore7994]

I like my soda can alcohol stove. I put a mark inside it for how much fuel i need to boil all the water in my pot. The fuel is kept in a Pepsi bottle. I also have a tin foil heat/wind shield that goes around the whole thing. So, I just put the fuel in, light it, and after about 10 minutes I have boiling water and I didn't have to babysit it. I don't think it would work too well for actual cooking. But, for boiling water it's pretty good.

[@slickwillie3376]

TOGR had similar things to say. His conclusion was that cannister stoves work best for warm to moderate weather and alcohol stoves work best in cold weather.

[@furchaser]

you going to go to the overland expo in flagstaff in a few weeks , i will be there . 19 hr drive

[@MotoGiant]

Flagstaff is cool, but I am guessing they would want me to pay for LOOKING at stuff people want to sell me?

[@furchaser]

@@MotoGiant yep and pay to camp , not cheep but there is so much stuff and people with cool stuff you need to do it at least 1 time , they have one in CO in july i may go to also but the big one is in flagstaff

[@MotoGiant]

@@furchaser Think I will just watch it on KZbin? Have fun tho! :)

[@joycechampion3124]

I hate the idea of the empty gas cannister. What a waste!

[@mindfulicious]

can't you use the alchohol stove with it?

[@MotoGiant]

why would I do that? You should watch the follow up video -linked at the end

[@jamesthompson6994]

You can still use the firebox as a canister stove, just buy the trangia kit. While something like the pocket rocket is great, I wouldn’t put a bigger pot on one because, personally, I don’t think they’re all that stable, where the firebox is rock solid. I have the stainless model. I was up in the blue ridge during hurricane Fred, my buddies canister stove had lots of wind issues, where my firebox with the trangia gas burner kit had very few. Plus there’s just something cathartic about watching a fire in a firebox

[@MotoGiant]

Guessing you did not see the Trangia sitting by the stove?

[@jamesthompson6994]

​@@MotoGiant Do you think that Trangia ONLY makes alcohol stoves, c'mon man

[@jimmyrogers2448]

10 minutes to a fire or good flame?

[@MotoGiant]

not including gathering fuel

[@dcentral]

I don’t have extensive experience with my titanium Firebox. While I do find it a bit messy to use, I just enjoy the cooking process. The flavors of meat being grilled over fire vs. frying in a pan is unmatched! I prefer carrying lump charcoal with me or find big chunk of wood so it burn slowly. I agree that feeding it with smaller sticks does get annoying.

[@daxmonster3429]

Why not just buy the gas burner that fits inside? Firebox sells one.

[@MotoGiant]

So you did not watch the video?

[@daxmonster3429]

@@MotoGiant I guess I missed whatever I should have seen. I watched the whole video. Are we talking about the same gas burner?

[@MotoGiant]

@@daxmonster3429 I referred to the trangia burner (alcohol) about midway, but adding anything else to the stove in my mind is kinda pointless especially if weight and bulk is an issue like it is with many people. If you are car camping you can bring a charcoal grill?

[@emeryz10]

The BushBuddy Mini is the right move.

[@vincentrogister5006]

Ya I'm on the fence about them, what you just said makes me not see the benefit of them. Also alot of places have fire bans in the summer so gas cannisters are a must. I love cooking over fire but inever used one of these stoves just a flat grill u don't understand the hype

[@MotoGiant]

make sure you watch the follow up video too - I double down on them - lots of alternatives out there and I am covering several soon

[@kingsoutdoors4379]

I use a titanium nano with a Trangia spirit burner. Stays in my pack with a Stanley cook set. I need to only make hot water or cook for 2. Works perfect .my stove will run on wood for about an hour.plenty of time to do anything I need to do. I believe one day it will be extremely hard to find ( canister fuels).....I don't need them now, won't need them then. Learn how to make a Swedish torch in your firebox...ten mins until it's ready to cook for an hour.... I have had about every type stove there is and still have many, but my firebox nano / Trangia setup is my go to.... it's all about multifuel for me....I like options and learned long ago that 1 is none when depending on something..always good to have a backup.... I think I'm going to fire up my nano ( on wood) make some coffee n breakfast because I'm out of canister and liquid fuel 😊

[@TinyIslandMaine]

I thought this was Clickbait when the title said you were done with this and it would turn out that you were going on to the newest latest and greatest FB version! You hit the nail on the head, “ROMANCE”, exactly right. I too love the thought of being able to just pick sticks up off the ground and cook my meals with them, so I built a hobo stove out of a tin can and while I love the romance of building the fire and feeding it and boiling water, it’s great. Beyond that, it’s a little bit more of a challenge to cook a meal unless you use bigger diameter sticks. And I don’t know how people don’t get the soot all over their hands and clothes when I see videos. I appreciate the fact that you can use these just about anywhere and in the right conditions they really serve a purpose, but I think you’re right most people want convenience. And one more thing I would like to say, this product is an absolute engineering genius. The guy who invented and keeps designing new versions and accessories for firebox is like the guy who invented and builds Leatherman tools. A perfect tool for those who want it. All that being said, if you have not sold it yet please message me as I would pay a fair price to try it out and if not for me, I too will pass along at a fair price. Thanks for your honesty.

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

its truly amazing how much utility you can get out of 5 metal panels and a couple of metal sticks. I kind of want a firebox stove but I dont go camping I just like burning stuff and being able to cook a snack while burning stuff is fun.

[@jplamb77]

Another thing,,, the Trangia gas stove runs on Propane along with the other types of Gas,,, with the proper adapter’s you can use a 20lb propane bottle. You definitely have not discouraged me from the firebox brand,,, No other stove system can Compare to it’s Versatility,,,!!!!

[@buellboy007]

Love all my 🔥 box had them for 11 years or so the idea of tge firebox is multi fuel ⛽️ canister is fast simple easy buuuut not a Murphys law candidate the new firebox freestyle or hell nano woukd serve as the goat Great video keep the rubber side down

[@Sides1160]

I kind of look at it as a cook system. I mostly camp out of my truck while fishing. So space and weight don’t concern me. I carry the firebox, isobutane and single burner Coleman stove. Which one I use depends on what I am cooking. If it is a steak or burger, firebox will come out every time. I love the taste of meat cooked over a fire. At times it can be a pain in the butt, but it is worth it to me. But I’ll agree that it isn’t for everyone.

[@aBluegrassPicker]

I bring a ziplock of charcoal for the firebox and grill a steak on it. I use the jetboil stash to sauté mushrooms and make coffee in the morning. Best of both worlds.

[@MotoGiant]

Car camping?

[@aBluegrassPicker]

@@MotoGiant Motocamping on a K1600 - . about 10 lumps of charcoal will cook a steak. I agree with you on the weight, but the firebox packs small.

[@mrmcbeth]

I've cooked with coals on the ground before. That was pretty cheap.

[@MotoGiant]

coals on the ground are MUCH easier to manage too

[@Radoslaw731]

I'm sorry. There is msr reactor that could be classified as closed fire 😁

[@TheTarotCardGuy]

I think you need to understand the philosophy of use behind the Firbox series of stoves. I keep mine in my truck all the time in case there is ever a SHTF scenario and for when I go for short hikes. In a SHTF/natural disaster type event, I'm not giving a shit about 'burn bans'. The other 99.9% of the time, I use my alcohol burner with it. Heats coffee up fast enough, doesn't sound like a blowtorch, and I'm not filling landfill will canister waste. And wood alc fuel is dirt cheap. When I am burning twigs or wood in it, I put a large wind screen around it and it acts as a chimney heating the hands and feet of two people sitting around it. When I'm in the bush, I'm not in a rush to cook my food. I'm there to take things slow and easy. Canisters serve their purpose, but I don't want to rely on cannisters in an emergency when things shut down or run out. I can ALWAYS find something to burn to cook and keep warm. I can't always find fuel cannisters.

[@MotoGiant]

Well apparently you did not get my points? I love the philosophy of it, that's why I bought it. I use the word romance instead of philosophy but it's the same idea. It just simply does not work for me for what I'm doing. If I have to carry alcohol along with my heavy stove, that defeats the entire purpose, and the philosophy.

[@TheTarotCardGuy]

@@MotoGiant I get your points, and they are ALL valid. And we have the luxury of owning them both (if not more) to use when the need arises to suit our preference. And god knows I want my coffee FAST in the morning to light a fire under my ass. When I'm back country back packing, I'm taking my canister stove most of the time when I'm expecting rain. Because I want my coffee damnit ! I dont want to struggle lighting wet wood. As a matter of fact, my first outting with it was unsuccessful because the forest had been saturated with rain for almost 5 days straight and I had to use the the canister. BUT.........that canister is going to run out in a SHTF situation, in which case, you're going to need biofuel. So I still wouldnt get rid of the Firebox but rather allocate it to Emergency use or car camping. I personally have mine in the back of my truck in case theres an emergency on the road and we get stranded and on my battle loadout, i carry a Simple Theory Gear Pack stove with alc burner.

[@Droptineful]

Trangia makes a gas burner that works with the Firebox. The problem isn’t the stove……..

[@MotoGiant]

not sure how you could NOT see the Trangia in this video? Fanboy much?

[@marcgravel2331]

I use mine for meals, coffee is done on my Optimus

[@jplamb77]

You need to look into the Trangia gas stove. Fits Perfectly in the 5”, nano and the Freestyle firebox,,,!!!

[@MotoGiant]

I have had the trangia since I bought the stove

[@jplamb77]

@@MotoGiant Well,, there you go,,, a quick coffee in the morning. And you can use the cheaper Coleman Propane, 1lb bottle,,, Blessings to You,,,,!!!!!

[@RudyG210]

Mail that bad boy to me hell I'll take it!

[@angeurbain6129]

The guy just don't like to be happy...

[@MotoGiant]

yes, I am against happiness, you are quite observant!

[@angeurbain6129]

It's ok with me as long as you like it...@@MotoGiant

[@MotoGiant]

@@angeurbain6129 so you did not watch the video?

[@angeurbain6129]

I watch the video. I even found it funny.@@MotoGiant

[@angeurbain6129]

@@MotoGiant I watch the video and it did not convince me at all of abandoning my firebox. Everything is ok.Your point of view is very personal and it is fine with me. It is just that i like to play with wood and don't care about the sout.

[@DaveM-mp6yu]

Ah... but the romance is strong. You are so right in so many ways, great engineering, amazing design, romantic fire, grilling is great but boiling is a bit of a pain so I have a canister or alcohol stove plus the fire box. I do so enjoy sitting by the fire and playing with it. Great video, cheers.

[@BrianBraaten]

I’ve used a cat food can and unleaded gas out of my tank for years not understand your Dilemma

[@MotoGiant]

I need instructions on the ways of simple cooking sir!

[@BrianBraaten]

@@MotoGiant first tip don’t buy anything

[@spaztech]

@@BrianBraatendidn’t you pay $30k+ cash for your motorcycle?

[@BrianBraaten]

@@spaztech ya 30k out the door on a $36k sticker price because it was a 2020 new bike in April of 2021 so I got a great deal

[@patriciaribaric3409]

When I want coffee - I want it now, so a Firebox isn't the choice I would use for making coffee. That said - I like playing with fire, so I love my Firebox for keeping warm and for cooking. I use the Firebox when I'm not in a hurry, and I am just enjoying the outdoors. I love options, so I enjoy using many types of outdoor cooking products. One thing I have not enjoyed using is my huge rocket stove. The fire is way too huge and hard to control. I wish I hadn't spent the money on it. It eats twigs faster than I can feed it, and one blink of the eye, and fire is shooting out the feed hole. I'd rather have a fire pit.

[@NeoBlueBearZchannel]

I think for me I still like the firebox …. It’s more about the ritual of lighting it putting in work to get the fire going ….. yeah there is time I would rather choose to have a propane powered jet ……. But after working as a cook in the past in multiple fine dinning restaurants, cooking with wood , gives it a better flavor just my opinion though

[@MotoGiant]

I am looking for something smaller and lighter for the very same reasons

[@brucemattes5015]

I'm in the process of saving up the money to purchase a Firebox Stove, Titanium, Gen2 5" Deluxe Combo Kit. As a former wilderness backpacker, I fully agree with every one of the negative comments regarding *ALL* of the stainless steel & and titanium twig stoves that are sold around the world. However, I want to point out that unless there is a worldwide societal collapse of some sort and the *Shit Really Does Hit The Fan* as the saying goes, 99% of the people who have purchased and regularly use any of these twig stoves will never be forced to utilize them as they were originally conceived to be used. Which is as a legitimate substitute for the electricity, natural gas, and propane that most Americans utilize as the heat source for all of their cooking needs. Even for that small minority of the American population who currently heat their homes with firewood, an extremely small percentage of that minority cook with wood indoors on a dedicated wood cook stove. The reason for so few people in rural areas not electing to cook indoors with wood is not just the substantial increase in the yearly requirement for the number of cords of decent, dried hardwood that are going to be necessary; but the blazingly obvious fact that cooking with wood in a modern, well-insulated house is a miserably hot experience. Cooking with wood indoors is something that our great grandmothers and grandmothers eagerly quit doing when natural gas, propane, and electric stoves became affordable in the early 20th century. The Firebox G2 5" stove, especially in titanium, is a near perfect tool to own if a true survival situation should ever arise.

[@windowswashbasin]

For me, it’s not about time. But for sure every style of stove has its advantage/disadvantage. But you do you….that’s all you should do.

[@MotoGiant]

I think that is a pretty common reaction among firebox users, time seems to be less relevant.

[@mediocreman561]

If I don't use the firebox, I use a vegetable strainer and a bedroll cooker since I like to cook me some lamb to eat and I make me breakfast.

[@Christopherjamesmurphy21]

Sounds like you need to slow down.

[@oinc7320]

Gee, I think you missed the point, some people like cranking up a fire, the smoke, tending it. You can buy a gas burner for it, and that is the biggest advantage. Run out of fuel, clogged line, convert back to wood fuel, you still eat, drink. The other thing is they use so little wood fuel, vs, campfire, standard grill, for a cup of coffee. Yeah out west California way, I can see it's not worth dealing with if you constantly run into those no fire restrictions. I'm debating buying a G5, as I would like a little more volume to hold fuel, as I have only a Nano, the things are just so pricey. They are well made, I haven't warped the stainless in the Nano. I do agree you have to babysit a Firefox, if is a constant thing, and you can't multi task. Yep if you are fishing on a bank, want to chop up something else, ain't happening, because as soon as you turn around the fire needs feeding.

[@thomasmusso1147]

You no longer like using the Firebox Stove. Ok ..

[@MotoGiant]

my vids are geared towards moto-camping, but this vid gets a ton of hate from all the non-moto Firebox fanboys for some reason?

[@sedohrj87]

Firebox stove with a skillet, the best way. It's not hard to find enough twigs to keep this think goin and cooking two fat Ribeyes. Meanwhile the pocket stove heating up veggies and water for mashed taters

[@bio2020]

"it will take me 10 minutes to make a coffee, i just want to turn it on and do it fast" i mean, youre in the wilderness under the sky with the trees and animals. do you have some pressing appointment with a frog or something?

[@MotoGiant]

I guess we have different priorities in the wilderness?

[@Buckeyes216]

right lol.. guys a clown and is just jealous of people who don’t have fire bans.

[@MrMann703]

Ikr, even with a gas canister getting water boiling takes time, the attachment for cups or bottles on the firebox traps that heat so it isn't going to be much slower really

[@MrMann703]

​@@MotoGiantbuy a Kelly kettle, it boils your water super fast

[@LetsGo_Brandon]

@@MotoGiant instant gratification culture

[@dropleckk4404]

I always want options. If there’s shortage of one thing, I’ll have several other ways to get the job done. If you’re using fuel, there needs to be fuel to get. Somebody has to manufacture that fuel and get it into a can for us to buy. Right now, people are walking off their jobs and I have seen quire a few. I don’t think we are going to run out of wood anytime soon. I can get my own wood.

[@MotoGiant]

fact!

[@budcat2]

Got to take your time. But building a fire to make coffee is a no go. Requiers too much thought.

[@MotoGiant]

depends so much on how you are camping and your goals - just found a second solution that appears to be working, video soon!

[@budcat2]

I use a Coleman 533 for boiling water. That rascal boils fast. Don’t simmer wort a dang.

[@Radoslaw731]

Gas stove is an open fire too 😁 there's no such thing as closed fire.

[@LetsGo_Brandon]

my guy is glamping

[@FeliXGamR-Jp]

complaining you gotta use wood or buy the fuel for the firebox and lug the bottle around, yet you gotta buy the fuel for the canister your switching to and lug that around aswell lmfao, great explanation lmfao

[@MotoGiant]

It is a bit complicated - maybe THIS will help? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX-vYZqKfrOjopo

[@williamscrudder6755]

You haven't watched the firebox stove Chanel obviously. If you did you would known how to manage the stove.

[@MotoGiant]

You haven't watched this video obviously. If you did you would heard me praising the channel?

[@davidwilliams8278]

I use this stove when canoe camping in Northern Canada. Don’t have the space for gas or alcohol, so need to use wood. I find if I load the Firebox in a Swedish Fire Torch style, the thing burns long/hot enough to cook fish/rice/heat up water, etc… For one or two day outings, gas is way better (especially in rainy conditions).

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

Lol, this guy misses the entire point of this stove. These stoves are not designed to be immediate gratification, even if the Trangia spirit burner and esbit tablets cure every last one of the complaints he's got, sounds to me like user problem rather than product deficiencies.

[@MotoGiant]

I think you miss the entire point of the video?

[@fireboxstove]

Amen brother 👍👌😎

[@Quickdraw812]

It's never took me 10 minutes to get a fire started. But I am also a survivalist. I've gotten fires started in the rain. It's not easy buy, I've done it. I have the firebox Titanium free Style. And it's all about relaxing and enjoying the outdoors. Every stove has it's purpose and the right time to use it.

[@MotoGiant]

I am certain that it also comes down to perspective. Most of the folks that object to my analysis only have a weekend in the woods. I spend weeks and months, and that seems to add up over time. Also the perspective of fire-bans out west considerably diminishes the effectiveness of a folding firepit.

[@Quickdraw812]

@Moto Giant I live out east so the rules to fire is completely different. I used to live in Montana had to move back to the east side. Because of all my family.