Fireside Chat May 19th

Take a breath and let the devs cook. They've earned a moment.

[@ploffs]

Was listening to this while sitting outside on a warm night for the full "Dad wisdom" experience

[@JebblesJunior]

It's like having an xp bonus.

[@oscarglad5284]

I'm hoping for a PTR - a public test realm. We can test, crash, report the crash, then get good weapons and stratagems.

[@The_fastfreddy]

The Devs for Helldivers have basically been in a non-stop helldive missions for the past few weeks. I think us cutting them some slack and showing that we're willing to wait out this storm with them is the best thing we can do as a community.

[@Forgottenmyname]

Love these fireside chats. Keep up the great work.

[@stevenobrien7686]

This is the exact post that needs to be made rn. The game desperately needs a big content update or shake up , but the devs have been through hell this month and we need to give them a reasonable amount of grace. That being said I REALLY need something new. New enemies new strats, new environments or a mission. SOMETHING.

[@Vallarthis]

Using the "weapon experimentation" free stratagems for playtesting almost-ready stratagems sounds like a fantastic idea.

[@that80ssongyoulove84]

Arrowhead is, for the most part, a victim of too much success over a disproportionate amount of time.

[@JimmyMac118]

I've always maintained the mindset that, considering the immediate boom in popularity and how transparent it was that the game was somewhat... unpolished on release. That we helldivers must show patience and consideration, the dev team have shown appreciation and actively engage with their player base. In turn, I urge my fellow helldivers to support them while they try to figure out ongoing issues. Much love folks ❤

[@Guitarfailtastic2857]

water heater problems suck man. when i was living in a mobile home the water heater was in my room, behind my closet. needless to say every time we had a water heater problem i got to sleep in the living room. i hope you're able to get that situation sorted out as easily as possible.

[@darkgravystains]

Live testing new weapons as stragems is brilliant

[@SlungBlade]

The game is still fun. Community is still active. Devs are actively working on making it better and are actually listening to feedback. They've got a ton of leeway from me, I'm happy to keep playing. And yeah, they should absolutely do the free stratagem play testing.

[@lukemehalick370]

I love this game. The core of the game and AH is solid. They have alleviated about 12 concerns i have as far as online gaming goes. Sometimes i would of put different sprinkles on top, but the ice cream is fantastic.

[@joeyelmer8549]

Once again, I needed this right when I was getting frustrated at the crashes. Keep up the amazing work brother!

[@jibskii1201]

I think the Sony region locks and their attitude got some people burnt out I don't mind the balance changes but as always your voice on things is really good to hear especially when my own insights aren't as reasonable.

[@JebblesJunior]

They've added a few countries back so I think the trend will continue.

[@legitbetterthanvinny9725]

Came to helldivers for the gameplay, but stuck around for the community. 9/10 times quick play lobbies are usually really chill guys, really supportive to new players as well

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

They could section off a part of the servers and give players time in that contained environment, or bring new ones online for that purpose. I'm sure a few thousand players would be more than willing to test new stuff out, hell have an NDA that says they can't discuss major stuff like new factions or weapons and armor, but all in the most vague terms. Just, something to help take a load off of the devs and give tangible player feedback.

[@JebblesJunior]

I'd even accept a big ass cardboard box filled with enemies, a rock for cover, and whatever new equipment.

[@michaelklim1971]

I enjoy your content as a side note, your voice sounds like the character John wick. I think that's pretty awesome

[@JebblesJunior]

I appreciate this.

[@therealsushi423]

he is doing his part!

[@ConspiciousCultist]

This game came out three months ago. However you feel about the state of the game now, three months is a very small amount of time when it comes to game development.

[@The_fastfreddy]

Yeah, I think when the game gets out of its infancy things should be looking way better

[@kurtisdeakin]

so damn crazy it might just work!!!

[@Vnx]

I'm hopeful and patient to see where Helldivers 2 goes. Patience is in my nature for one, and for the other the last new game I spent a fair amount of time in was Payday 3. I was a big fan of Payday 2, and 3's launch was about as troubled as Helldivers 2, with server issues rendering an online-only game unplayable. However PD3 also had a lot of deeper issues including the lack of basic game features and highly unpopular design decisions such as the challenge-based progression and the attrition inherent in the new armor system. It took PD3's developer company months to realize that ignoring player complaints about these systems was not going to fix the issue. It took took five months for PD3 to get an Unready button and eight months to get a Quick Play function, and it may not be a coincidence that the company's CEO was removed effective immediately earlier this year. So it's refreshing to play Helldivers 2 and have meaningful progress and fixes in the few months since I started playing, and a CEO who makes reasonable statements about the game's balance philosophy and will still listen when players raise issues with the focus having been too much on nerfing allegedly overperforming weapons and not enough attention being given to underpeforming weapons and stratagems. Has Helldivers 2 made mistakes? Yes. But for now I still have enough trust to sit back and see what they have in store for us.

[@ObliviousNaga]

I heard that they looking into making a public test server

[@JohnHelldiver4724]

Yay, more FDR action! Were making it outa the Great Depression with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@smy115]

I'm not really worried for this game tbh, i feel like its gonna be like fortnite or any other live service, you get burnt out it takes a bit for them to add stuff and we're all so used to other games adding stuff all the time, so not feeling the diver to play is ok, just play something else, this game ain't gonna just dissappear, it suck i dont feel the drive to play but i did it to myself by making it my one and only game for 3 months.

[@kurtisdeakin]

A freaking Men!! Been saying the same thing. Sad about Snoy#s bullshit but the devs AND their company are such heroes.

[@krustykrusader1702]

Nice vid man. Would definitely be cool to be able to test "beta" versions of game changes/additions. Though they'd probably have to give us a separate client with the beta patch. Kinda like how Dead by Daylight handles beta testing their new killers with PTBs

[@al_wombat]

Completely agree on the community testing as you suggest it. They just might have had that same idea and are postponing figuring out how to process the shiploads of data this would create. If I were AH I’d rather approach a couple of content creators like yourself and keep it small and simple. Larger scale testing will remain for the normal player base to be performed… :)

[@Perijee]

Wait, you're telling me they don't use the free data we give them when they give us a free stratagem? I always thought they did...

[@JebblesJunior]

They do not as those are already released. If they did maybe eagle 1 would be able to aim.

[@Perijee]

@@JebblesJunior haha yeah, that's fair. It's still such a missed opportunity to do just that.

[@bastiancole3565]

If they can just stop the top down approach to nerfing, and work on bringing everything in line as a whole to be usable then we got a pretty good thing here. As far as unlocking new stratagems and stuff being tied to the communities efforts, I feel like that can only go so long, like we've had the anti-tank mines ripped from us from low player counts and high requirements on major order completions. Perhaps after a few major orders they just guarantee give them to us. Because it feels pretty bad to not be able to progress content because of low player counts.

[@JebblesJunior]

The balance situation I'll speak more on later, but I'll say this for now. Nerfing isn't bad, but nerfing based on numbers alone, and not feeling or play testing change is very bad.

[@GnarledStaff]

Tip for avoiding burnout: Find something else to do. If you play 4 hours every day they will never be able to keep up with new content and you will feel like you’ve seen everything. Having another game to play will help with this. You can play this game a couple nights a week or even every other week. You still can feel excited about the game but without all your eggs in 1 basket, you can relax a bit. HD2 is designed so that you don’t have to feel the FOMO for not playing every day. So enjoy That said, I don’t think the game should be updating without playtesting. Experimental weapons cannot address the larger issues such as enemy buffs, and a lot of the bugs we are seeing are things that are detrimental to player enjoyment and should have been caught in playtesting. They will need to choose between quick updates and stable game and I for one, would be happy with slower updated that are more thoroughly playtested. People will come back to a game they love when new content drops, but gamebreaking bugs make them love the game less. I think its good business sense to slow down and ensure the baseline quality stays high so players want to return when there is new content. Plus, keeping all the players engaged with new content is impossible- people can play the game faster than it can be developed. The people that get bored will get bored either way so let them leave with good vibes so they want to come back.

[@JebblesJunior]

That's why I do make an effort to realize I've got far more time than most reasonable people sunk into this. It helps temper any annoyance because I'll clear warbonds in a day.

[@nezarekt]

Love u bro

[@emojothejojo]

I hope people stop posting clickbait about this game. I'm not talking about you, just the people who say things like: EPIC PATCH NEW WEAPON BUFFS. but no patch came out at all

[@etceterax144]

The game is fun and all, but since hitting lvl80, I have literally everything and there is nothing to play for. The game needs an endgame or high lvl missions or something, to unlock op weapons and armor or start, some skins or paint maybe... Anything. Otherwise there is no incentive to play tbh except for me to boost my friends.

[@JebblesJunior]

I find helping others or being way less serious in helldive entertaining. I do understand where you're coming from though. Like I said somewhere in the video, I was seconds away from this ending up as a rant about the lack of new content.

[@etceterax144]

@@JebblesJunior Same here, but it shouldn't have to fall om the player to "make his own fun" or incentive to play, it's basically just roleplaying in a non rpg game. Which is fine of course, but it's a heavy burden that the playerbase alone has to carry the game at this point.

[@ironbadger8985]

Warbond weapons being buffed is a slippery slope id rather not go down. Theyre not supposed to be better than the standard weapons, else this game becomes pay to win. Sure, you can make the argument that you can earn credits for the warbond, but if warbond weapons are consistently better and considered better, instead of just being different flavors like they're supposed to be, then people will shell out money and those that want to earn their credits will get left behind. Also, people constantly needing new warbonds and weapons, strategems, aren't going to be around for the long haul anyway. They're not interested in seeing the story and galactic war unfold. I waited 10 years for this game after playing the first, and the community there was much smaller, but much less brainwashed by AAA logic. I swear if this game gets ruined, it'll be more than 50% the fault of the newcomers to this once niche game audience.

[@JebblesJunior]

Making the warbond weapons useable doesn't mean everything else gets weaker. Warbonds also aren't exclusive to a set time and come out once a month. It's not difficult to get the credits together to buy one, I've done it in a singular day of grinding before. It's the centerpiece of their progression system in regard to unlocking new content.

[@skylerspurlock4755]

I’ve felt the same! I got aggravated with arrowhead etc over patches and updates etc, which made me feel like taking a break, then after few days I thought, with any game like this it’s gonna take a little time to get everything worked out to the communities liking also fixing bugs and making new content. I also started to feel bad about so many ppl bashing arrowhead and all those involved, minus account linking crap. So I thought you know what? Someone has to be here to stand for this gem of a game! Someone has to be here because we know the potential of this beauty! That’s it! I’m doing it! I’m standing for democracy!!!!!!Standing for freedom!!!!!!🫡